From sm@elandsys.com Tue Sep 25 08:14:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0591F0C7E; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 08:14:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.577 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.577 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tGXYGmGpfKUE; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 08:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA8F1F0C54; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 08:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([41.136.233.101]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8PFDm43012314 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 25 Sep 2012 08:13:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1348586041; bh=UNJL4V+9+MvaDf/bkL+wpdlwzomp7NkLAWEUpov1rtM=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=u+sL6m0HBrReszVWyd/vXal6gX+yHN4booJHjhHTvitbq0nmupBgcGZteltXybFQq eQcd9O6nCzvOrzr+4DnY1hJ/qv2uHM0+SLWyl1LOjB7mBaQlz7mWAky6WlFUutRmqR sJka+TB7oyHko/mb32MHI1Z6qXbk/x5YniH16zQA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1348586041; i=@elandsys.com; bh=UNJL4V+9+MvaDf/bkL+wpdlwzomp7NkLAWEUpov1rtM=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=mw45IWaqd9+37nKfpwuB5AWFbU3s0KoKyWm5A7BgBd4knlvQKau9dZTBDuwhZpDH4 8o2G9D7035T9AJijeLJILbey1gQT8sDr/fLR0rJisZFRVYAJLhagvmOp9Nv6UmZhSg SJjsrjJsFRQSTuHPE8XV4jF6C9NCKMGosn85fKSQ= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120925072708.098586a0@resistor.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 07:57:16 -0700 To: decade@ietf.org From: S Moonesamy In-Reply-To: References: <50531AB3.6090601@neclab.eu> <50583257.2080404@neclab.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] DECADE WG to be closed X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:14:05 -0000 At 23:52 21-09-2012, Songhaibin wrote: >I believe all those comments were addressed in the current draft, as >I joined the discussion with the authors to address the comments. >Their efforts should be respected. The authors and I would like Dave >and Carsten to check the draft with their comments, if they are >interested. While I admit answering in the mailing list is a main >method to resolve comments, but it is not the only method. The Applications Directorate reviewers have volunteered their free time and effort to perform these reviews. It is a disincentive to the reviewers if they have to track WG drafts to determine whether their comments have been addressed. Regards, S. Moonesamy From haibin.song@huawei.com Thu Sep 27 17:39:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700C921F8550; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:39:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.502, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fCkYTPCRXHhi; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E6E21F855A; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AKC10816; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 00:39:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:38:19 +0100 Received: from SZXEML430-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.72.61.38) by lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:39:03 +0800 Received: from SZXEML534-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.70]) by szxeml430-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.72.61.38]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:38:58 +0800 From: Songhaibin To: S Moonesamy , "decade@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [decade] DECADE WG to be closed Thread-Index: AQHNmy4NeTF1FP7MtkORFrVdv9nRf5ee6t6w Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 00:38:58 +0000 Message-ID: References: <50531AB3.6090601@neclab.eu> <50583257.2080404@neclab.eu> <6.2.5.6.2.20120925072708.098586a0@resistor.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20120925072708.098586a0@resistor.net> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.138.41.123] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 00:31:11 -0700 Cc: "appsdir@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [appsdir] [decade] DECADE WG to be closed X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 00:39:07 -0000 Part of the resolution to comments (Carsten's and David Harrington's) were = recorded in the document sent out by Akbar to the DECADE list several days = ago. It might be easier to check with that one. It was for the discussion i= n June. BR, -Haibin > -----Original Message----- > From: decade-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:decade-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of > S Moonesamy > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:57 PM > To: decade@ietf.org > Cc: appsdir@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [decade] DECADE WG to be closed >=20 > At 23:52 21-09-2012, Songhaibin wrote: > >I believe all those comments were addressed in the current draft, as > >I joined the discussion with the authors to address the comments. > >Their efforts should be respected. The authors and I would like Dave > >and Carsten to check the draft with their comments, if they are > >interested. While I admit answering in the mailing list is a main > >method to resolve comments, but it is not the only method. >=20 > The Applications Directorate reviewers have volunteered their free > time and effort to perform these reviews. It is a disincentive to > the reviewers if they have to track WG drafts to determine whether > their comments have been addressed. >=20 > Regards, > S. Moonesamy From sm@elandsys.com Fri Sep 28 02:47:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBD521F85C0; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:47:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.579 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.579 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZlqI+RyOdIry; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:47:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D528521F85BB; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([41.136.236.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8S9kncj005663 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:46:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1348825621; bh=iP9OIuaoEwEqjgSkfuYXC4Il3XGftfA3v2fzP/wOkV4=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=0qPwrZ2+Ypejvd1DnCsLSCO3BIzpAVO9bEa35ea308asq0IkSZQ6mbLOulocEWYxv UPo6AckVUNhrLx/oD3QvxoygitpZ/1kC4Iu/vStAGdP62+h9TSUFZxRYsvjPFV4GzA 9UF6JLwPn0hDu5oqphRpD0PjWbTNHAIKBjwv7SHc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1348825621; i=@elandsys.com; bh=iP9OIuaoEwEqjgSkfuYXC4Il3XGftfA3v2fzP/wOkV4=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=27ZizW27zow7ARytrZgXCpvo9FjYADkSZMeX2nUOSVI+AVm2Xf6FFncjsS4VBXDhg Yewh8u3uT32wrDHmaHD1F1yn/pMrZVzTPKUTiskkdbyyy4k8HhbWhVwIQcTUYeLI7X P1VnReb3yPuXxcrFkgRRpRfQZWU20d8RiSADf82Y= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120928005916.0aed8b00@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:30:16 -0700 To: Songhaibin From: S Moonesamy In-Reply-To: References: <50531AB3.6090601@neclab.eu> <50583257.2080404@neclab.eu> <6.2.5.6.2.20120925072708.098586a0@resistor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: decade@ietf.org, appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] [decade] DECADE WG to be closed X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:47:54 -0000 Hello, At 17:38 27-09-2012, Songhaibin wrote: >Part of the resolution to comments (Carsten's and David >Harrington's) were recorded in the document sent out by Akbar to the >DECADE list several days ago. It might be easier to check with that >one. It was for the discussion in June. There were three reviews from the Applications Area Directorate for drafts from the DECADE WG: 23 Jan 2012 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss/current/msg04174.html 22 Mar 2012 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss/current/msg04704.html 22 Mar 2012 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss/current/msg04705.html The reviews could be summarized as "the drafts are not ready for publication as a RFC". The reviewers explained why they came to such a conclusion. The reviews were posted to apps-discuss@ietf.org, an open mailing list, so that anyone can comment. There wasn't any timely follow-up on any of these reviews. According to the message at http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/decade/current/msg00805.html the Decoupled Application Data Enroute (decade) working group in the Transport Area has concluded. Given the closure of the DECADE WG I don't have a good reason to ask the reviewers to check the "resolution to comments". Regards, S. Moonesamy From haibin.song@huawei.com Fri Sep 28 19:38:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C8321F845C; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:38:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.181 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.181 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.418, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AKNInDPMkSkT; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:38:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB4321F844D; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml203-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id ALD65275; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:38:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML406-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.243) by lhreml203-edg.huawei.com (172.18.7.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:35:16 +0100 Received: from SZXEML435-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.72.61.63) by lhreml406-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.243) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:36:14 +0100 Received: from SZXEML534-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.70]) by szxeml435-hub.china.huawei.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 10:36:07 +0800 From: Songhaibin To: S Moonesamy Thread-Topic: [decade] DECADE WG to be closed Thread-Index: AQHNmy4NeTF1FP7MtkORFrVdv9nRf5ee6t6wgACe2q6AARDdYA== Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:36:06 +0000 Message-ID: References: <50531AB3.6090601@neclab.eu> <50583257.2080404@neclab.eu> <6.2.5.6.2.20120925072708.098586a0@resistor.net> <6.2.5.6.2.20120928005916.0aed8b00@elandnews.com> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20120928005916.0aed8b00@elandnews.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.138.41.123] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:43:35 -0700 Cc: "decade@ietf.org" , "appsdir@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [appsdir] [decade] DECADE WG to be closed X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:38:17 -0000 Hi, Here are the public emails sent by Akbar when the architecture document was= updated. And they were only sent to the decade@ietf.org, I would like it h= ad been copied to apps-discuss@ietf.org.=20 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/decade/current/msg00682.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/decade/current/msg00681.html And yes, you do not have to ask the reviewers to check. I was only asking t= heir personal will in polite. BR, -Haibin > -----Original Message----- > From: S Moonesamy [mailto:sm+ietf@elandsys.com] > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 5:30 PM > To: Songhaibin > Cc: appsdir@ietf.org; decade@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [decade] DECADE WG to be closed >=20 > Hello, > At 17:38 27-09-2012, Songhaibin wrote: > >Part of the resolution to comments (Carsten's and David > >Harrington's) were recorded in the document sent out by Akbar to the > >DECADE list several days ago. It might be easier to check with that > >one. It was for the discussion in June. >=20 > There were three reviews from the Applications Area Directorate for > drafts from the DECADE WG: >=20 > 23 Jan 2012 > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss/current/msg04174.html > 22 Mar 2012 > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss/current/msg04704.html > 22 Mar 2012 > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss/current/msg04705.html >=20 > The reviews could be summarized as "the drafts are not ready for > publication as a RFC". The reviewers explained why they came to such > a conclusion. The reviews were posted to apps-discuss@ietf.org, an > open mailing list, so that anyone can comment. There wasn't any > timely follow-up on any of these reviews. >=20 > According to the message at > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/decade/current/msg00805.html the > Decoupled Application Data Enroute (decade) working group in the > Transport Area has concluded. Given the closure of the DECADE WG I > don't have a good reason to ask the reviewers to check the > "resolution to comments". >=20 > Regards, > S. Moonesamy