From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Thu Jul 4 09:34:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4121321F930C for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 09:34:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.719 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.719 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PfPoix1vbQQa for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 09:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2AD21F92A5 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 09:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 18:34:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.local To: appsdir@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1372955677; bh=Es30ImHgDOzHrRbGD2XhHSwRPK834VLZslWap63hrYM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=bGKdLP+nn9tjScMUu70KtyaLZaxTlW60Qgu0xVhSazcSDcraZKV41dQpltx+KM4Rg 8ZM+otpalJ8zND9Vt7UmXHJ7Suwpl5vvPdnITPJNY3BTJYZJHB5g721mmrft6zF10x tnog9tM24j2K5lztbn3H77U+N/pn0hYE0wLbTAqs= Subject: [appsdir] drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 16:34:43 -0000 Hello all, we have the following new drafts for review, and given they're still a bit far from the IESG desk we also have some time, at least until July 25, likely later! - draft-ivov-xmpp-cusax-06 - draft-ivov-grouptextchat-purpose-03 in both of these drafts the co-authors... are also members of the Directorate, thus I've some problems in selecting a reviewer with the appropiate expertise because they cannot review themselves :-) But they are short and aimed to Informational Status... thus is there a couple of volunteers, even if you are not in your back garden ? Are there volunteers also for: another informational: - draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-taxonomy-02 and - draft-yusef-dispatch-ccmp-indication-04 ? please let me know by tomorrow (Friday) EOB. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Mon Jul 8 14:43:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD7821F9E43 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 14:43:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.719 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.719 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qnU4YyZniaFQ for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 14:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B2421F9E37 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 14:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 23:42:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it To: Salvatore Loreto In-Reply-To: <51C18323.3020204@ericsson.com> Message-ID: References: <51C18323.3020204@ericsson.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1373319782; bh=AZdUz9kNKyB+Ym0DIYJ2g2JEQvFnokiivqIPgzGjynk=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=dznJh/8revwB38twkbbNG94Mw6D27LyQ5d9MFDiJGkKpozKGafYOfrw5STLJRv8jN woNpstyM8lHStRdcX4lxo5+nOnCAnNCx2/1n4WvcidFfz4x/HUQgBBQwvgC1cs1gVr A8+YqKuJWGa9k2C5tEJbIdZUC1E6cttA8Sm+rxYw= Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] review rquest for draft-ietf-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-03 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 21:43:14 -0000 On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Salvatore Loreto wrote: > yes I will do the review > > cheers > Salvatore Hi Salvatore, just a reminder for tomorrow! ;-) > > On 6/15/13 4:46 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >> >> Hello Salvatore, >> >> could you please perform an ApsDir review of >> >> draft-ietf-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-03 >> Problem Statement: Overlays for Network Virtualization >> >> by July 9th 2013 ? >> >> please let me know and thanks! >> >> all the best, >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it >> Senior Technical Officer >> tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; >> S=Allocchio; >> fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; >> >> PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca >> >> > > > -- > Salvatore Loreto, PhD > www.sloreto.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Mon Jul 8 16:47:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A683311E80DF for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 16:47:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.971 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.971 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vY1FdsqUPxK5 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 16:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x232.google.com (mail-ve0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287ED11E80E6 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 16:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f178.google.com with SMTP id pb11so4099772veb.37 for ; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 16:47:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=fGmcno1/Evq+URfUb5l4vH7ZYAdc+UuMEqNZFEnZpbM=; b=vGdUPVwHc9C6VnXeqNBram9Le+/U57qFDbJUnoYemrPRj1iBbcZyLT2DXkNXidS3yy B1iAow+UJXW1sVvJG3AJXDAOuToVp/lHosIC3FHhSTpa+PgYdiJVo/IzRmvsfNT4Wb9z 8vZiLkIGS0dFvhaNY5ejPuhr9QttHq9X8fLRrEzNY7GRFAFbG44B4vyb0PVXfbv+3lox maAlCTFQz8KHvggsKEPRsDaHy5M3m1IPAXDX0yAr1rHIMc0bLH5rOcVnGAweFeh0mi8d kEssxxbGStSRkKZkiTCZ44p34kS+QEhQLIyU2lkREv9tiAe9rv1EHBVD7d2aFMlf0M6R 5ekA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.124.1 with SMTP id s1mr15016745vcr.93.1373327234473; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 16:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.137.227 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 16:47:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51C18323.3020204@ericsson.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:47:14 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4PbQ0JtDYbU2zuvNdXU7xJfb-uk Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: Claudio Allocchio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Salvatore Loreto , "appsdir@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [appsdir] review rquest for draft-ietf-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-03 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 23:47:23 -0000 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Salvatore Loreto wrote: > >> yes I will do the review >> >> cheers >> Salvatore > > > Hi Salvatore, just a reminder for tomorrow! Hm. I'm not sure where the 9 July date came from, but the document was approved on the 27 June telechat. Unless something *huge* is found, which seems unlikely, a review now will not be of any use. Barry >> >> On 6/15/13 4:46 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello Salvatore, >>> >>> could you please perform an ApsDir review of >>> >>> draft-ietf-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-03 >>> Problem Statement: Overlays for Network Virtualization >>> >>> by July 9th 2013 ? >>> >>> please let me know and thanks! >>> >>> all the best, >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it >>> Senior Technical Officer >>> tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; >>> S=Allocchio; >>> fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; >>> C=it; >>> >>> PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Salvatore Loreto, PhD >> www.sloreto.com From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Mon Jul 8 23:18:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5330E21F9F4B for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 23:18:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.719 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.719 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CE4qf5JYfP-i for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 23:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BD121F9F17 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 23:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:18:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it To: Barry Leiba In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <51C18323.3020204@ericsson.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1373350720; bh=3oCSaNidiaq2wNeJAHB9PJpZNkEnjz2fiHISwJf/HjU=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=k4rcuvFVDSUw27QqUU0hjcxPmmvAV2yHnnugZWNjYi1QijPpMhT+qi1hJ4IWAn7gT aJ4cGnzy/Itm7vLmQQjs6g5triify8JpKnAuaEKPpFVw0LTDtwznGIlDAtCwFYJYmp WJsQheRb674sW81N2YE9L7Q3j0tokQlsNwyVmN+Y= Cc: Salvatore Loreto , "appsdir@ietf.org" , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] review rquest for draft-ietf-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-03 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:18:56 -0000 On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Barry Leiba wrote: > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Claudio Allocchio > wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Salvatore Loreto wrote: >> >>> yes I will do the review >>> >>> cheers >>> Salvatore >> >> >> Hi Salvatore, just a reminder for tomorrow! > > Hm. I'm not sure where the 9 July date came from, but the document > was approved on the 27 June telechat. Unless something *huge* is > found, which seems unlikely, a review now will not be of any use. when I asked Salvatore for the review (June 15th) the document was not on June 27th telechat, thus we assumed it would have been on the next one, end of this week. When does the telechat aganda(s) become final? (in general). On http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/tracker there are also the "to do" reviews, with the review delivery dates (the drafts above the ============ line), thus it can be checked in real time. In something goes on the telechat agenda before the review deadline, and I miss it, please send a quick warning note as soon as this happen, thus we can fix the problem (I might not see it if I'm not in the office for some reason). Thank indeed and sorry for this inconvinience! PS: as you can see, there are 3 drafts who I'll be assigning, because there were no volunteers for them. all the best! > > Barry > >>> >>> On 6/15/13 4:46 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello Salvatore, >>>> >>>> could you please perform an ApsDir review of >>>> >>>> draft-ietf-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-03 >>>> Problem Statement: Overlays for Network Virtualization >>>> >>>> by July 9th 2013 ? >>>> >>>> please let me know and thanks! >>>> >>>> all the best, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it >>>> Senior Technical Officer >>>> tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; >>>> S=Allocchio; >>>> fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; >>>> C=it; >>>> >>>> PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Salvatore Loreto, PhD >>> www.sloreto.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From barryleiba@gmail.com Tue Jul 9 08:48:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9745111E8137 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:48:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J0V7XaPe4a1s for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x232.google.com (mail-qa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB7411E814C for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id l18so3012502qak.9 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 08:48:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=sMsIdGUFV+iPXxwecJLeX9h7RLoCOkbLxZpKHcgAAeQ=; b=Gqo43SwQD7krtEz1ju2hlwpkyegjiy1pang4bPyGWzbLdmMDuPpnKJ4OnTwl2hWts0 smI4eOZEt79GQRM/poQiS/lAKY/pPLH9i7VkcFpeQX0QaJ5TcOz+2rVRgOWCgGtbJcEe YOj53uy+PLVo9CDjcqCEmOlhyrK8NDPL69CXjOSMOVOcWTKRuV+vAvG1Yeose5J96ywu B7dgZAFdwL5KA9fgqSW3URJErtB7ZsCGb6L/vXg5ZEhejASyNJwuyao+l2jaoTbklVy+ 5LGJcRJ2o7qqik5pAWthS8jcMZCCqmv5wbyNhHiu+kt2j6Kao3AjPPvQVNEYm6ovBLre 2GUQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.63.7 with SMTP id z7mr24512256qah.51.1373384937156; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 08:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: barryleiba@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.216.201 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:48:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51C18323.3020204@ericsson.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:48:57 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FaST1-1QyJU9DSAPQeUL3V9AeZI Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: Claudio Allocchio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Salvatore Loreto , "appsdir@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [appsdir] review rquest for draft-ietf-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-03 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:48:59 -0000 >> Hm. I'm not sure where the 9 July date came from, but the document >> was approved on the 27 June telechat. Unless something *huge* is >> found, which seems unlikely, a review now will not be of any use. > > when I asked Salvatore for the review (June 15th) the document was not on > June 27th telechat, thus we assumed it would have been on the next one, end > of this week. > > When does the telechat aganda(s) become final? (in general). It's supposed to be the week before the telechat, so figure that things are pretty stable by the previous Friday (5 July for the 11 July telechat). Of course, it would be most helpful to already have reviews by that time, so that's not good for planning. It's better to plan based on the Last Call dates, and it's best to have the directorate reviews in during the Last Call period anyway -- appsdir reviews should be subject to the same deadlines as other Last Call comments. Here's what I would do, by way of planning (it's not perfect, but it will usually work): - Look at when the Last Call ends. - Look at the next telechat date after the Last Call ends. - Back up to the previous Friday from the telechat date. - Ask for the review to be done by the end of Last Call *or* by that Friday date, whichever is earlier. Examples: Last Call ends between 28 June and 5 July, ask for the review by the Last Call end date. Last Call ends between 6 July and 11 July, ask for the review by 5 July. Is that workable? > On http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/tracker there are also the > "to do" reviews, with the review delivery dates (the drafts above the > ============ line), thus it can be checked in real time. In something goes > on the telechat agenda before the review deadline, and I miss it, please > send a quick warning note as soon as this happen, thus we can fix the > problem (I might not see it if I'm not in the office for some reason). We'll try, but we're not usually watching things that closely. The above planning should cover most cases, and what they don't cover won't be a big deal. Barry From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Thu Jul 11 06:59:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A36F11E817A for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:59:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.719 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.719 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TNoNdCauw0LA for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D378511E8171 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:58:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@vpnclnt03.dir.garr.it To: glenn.parsons@ericsson.com Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1373551138; bh=6c+xvNNz4D/GlfIXMvq9OM3/5xtpstFj6qzRxVoV8Xo=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject; b=VRfLTaN1le2h684GgR5AdfnbXZvlI97D+rAtaTC7sqVlztFJRpMxHmqJkgezlljG1 uVRgGNRJuVWCzcXrtUNySJsXUpIFc+sp+sIlePI6K/tRYK7jnT5olXzOOv3fY9ipaV m2SwkpzMovVznA5KM+x1H5QPXns1O+Kztt6MqqWQ= Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] draft-yusef-dispatch-ccmp-indication-04 review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 13:59:06 -0000 Hello Glenn, could you please review draft-yusef-dispatch-ccmp-indication-04 by July 18th? Please let us know if this is OK. thanks indeed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Thu Jul 11 07:11:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A341011E816E for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:11:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.719 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.719 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t5eRnqy9NV-6 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32B621F9C10 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:11:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@vpnclnt03.dir.garr.it To: "Vijay K. Gurbani" Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1373551868; bh=A1wlQ8+lI4nNEgh40ebBbDGnyVgUlt9s//5qZazX6Io=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject; b=sR4eX5QiEE1K/akNxM2WOkAYIEe1+LpQdYJrtIAoPZ/BPfLcD/gVSZBjSDO4LKSUW jwuv8jNXfhuKJQi4ArOI15tZBsjZ9zvfk1azLXmelh9NskPfr6XZr1maMRTKKdg/kG cbX321xfckColxv1YnsbIoNY/UZYEbjXUpnbaFNg= Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] draft-ivov-grouptextchat-purpose-03 reiew X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:11:20 -0000 Hello Vijay, could you please review draft-ivov-grouptextchat-purpose-03 by July 22nd? Please let me know and thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Thu Jul 11 07:13:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72AE11E8187 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:13:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.719 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.719 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E70QbT5NOmDb for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B9B11E817E for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:13:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@vpnclnt03.dir.garr.it To: Ted Hardie Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1373552010; bh=HS25tTaVaeiSl0e5985LI8G75mKRDOBapsI2Q3HoAFU=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject; b=fQ+uTCPExLeaX0SONsOFZSflGqyXGOz9jbEMKUIaK0ZjOAXXDUb2KVW84Gj+UqkFI +rRBAvj/mkbr+Y124CBFEB7bEZNFvVaRxDw+gZ7RiW9SkhYxWJLJTU2tvMnOIcN+gs ZzXSsXwMbOL9NrLPhC2y9av71PUMQ+GFbxa+2KB8= Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] draft-ivov-xmpp-cusax 6review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:13:37 -0000 Hello Ted, coul you please review draft-ivov-xmpp-cusax-06 by July 16th (which is the LC termination date)? please let me know and thanks indeed! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From ted.ietf@gmail.com Thu Jul 11 07:44:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B37811E81A3 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:44:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vu-8TQkivLke for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com (mail-ie0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233CA11E81BD for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id k13so18378259iea.32 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:44:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dpNclsvVU4cuFC2ARldOPF/W6/oWvzwVBcWH1ywVKwM=; b=FrRtpjwHmfb6AoYlS3+j2mLY5uywHYoqwLhIFZ5r0vZWmEOgf3jOMSV9LqOxvi8gfF 8HwELCLM6K7O7gyEQKENlNnuCTUxRVu6fP+q8TkuZSs1zNPv/+p65U4lkvF1+LpsLD7R xM1bvQ8mpd4Yf+6LCy38LEqlsy6SMy5A+IIgz2anOYa/B5JqM9ACJSduzwt0Z1eFMSA+ VrEA7IDwzPGhJilwT1tk9CN2NMY3jzEcmjCtVENgyHLu+8H8MvWSbJJGtAWwdTsFQIUa UkaroEIPCBsjzYARoPv+WFy7Iz7WO5DmpCXWg51jckjrLeeLoCE2Lltnylsxpv/neg2N c1ag== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.66.210 with SMTP id h18mr18342139igt.19.1373553849711; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.29.202 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:44:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:44:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ted Hardie To: Claudio Allocchio Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdca4684ac2d604e13d6d45 Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] draft-ivov-xmpp-cusax 6review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:44:15 -0000 --047d7bdca4684ac2d604e13d6d45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Okay, will do. Ted On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Claudio Allocchio < Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> wrote: > Hello Ted, > > coul you please review draft-ivov-xmpp-cusax-06 by July 16th (which is > the LC termination date)? > > please let me know and thanks indeed! > > ------------------------------**------------------------------** > ------------------ > Claudio Allocchio G A R R > Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it > Senior Technical Officer > tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; > S=Allocchio; > fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; > > PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/**keys.php3#ca > --047d7bdca4684ac2d604e13d6d45 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, will do.

Ted

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coul you please review draft-ivov-xmpp-cusax-06 =A0 by July 16th (which is = the LC termination date)?

please let me know and thanks indeed!

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--047d7bdca4684ac2d604e13d6d45-- From salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com Fri Jul 12 11:24:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB7C21E80B7 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1Cm7RXyze0l3 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw1.ericsson.se (mailgw1.ericsson.se [193.180.251.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EC321E80B8 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:23:58 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-b7f586d000001a55-36-51e049bd2948 Received: from ESESSHC013.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw1.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id DD.AD.06741.DB940E15; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:23:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.lmf.ericsson.se (153.88.183.20) by smtp.internal.ericsson.com (153.88.183.59) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.328.9; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:23:57 +0200 Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se [131.160.33.3]) by mail.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE8511022D; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 21:23:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000BB5573B; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 21:23:53 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Salvatore-Loretos-MacBook-Pro.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8D053D35; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 21:23:52 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <51E049BB.2020500@ericsson.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:23:55 +0200 From: Salvatore Loreto User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barry Leiba References: <51C18323.3020204@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrILMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvre4+zweBBgv7uC2mTt3HanFo8SVW i4V3NrM7MHu0rOpl9tj67h2jx5IlP5kCmKO4bFJSczLLUov07RK4MnZvOc5c8Feo4t6lZawN jK/4uhg5OSQETCR+z3/DDGGLSVy4t54NxBYSOMwocXWbdxcjF5C9nlFiYmcjE0RiL6PE5WfJ EIl1jBKPl51ihXC2M0rMOvOKBaSKV0Bb4uKfW2A2i4CqxP6mfWA2m4CZxPOHW8DWiQokS7y/ cocZol5Q4uTMJ2A1IgKaEs8/TwHbxiwQJXHh1CqwGmGBUImXs/+xQSzrYpbYtKiTHSTBKRAo 8Wb1YhaIBluJC3OuQ9nyEtvfzoH6TU3i6rlNzBAvaEn0nu1kmsAoOgvJ7llI2mchaV/AyLyK kT03MTMnvdxwEyMwGg5u+a27g/HUOZFDjNIcLErivJv0zgQKCaQnlqRmp6YWpBbFF5XmpBYf YmTi4JRqYLTKi/gtHyM7Z5l13Mv5nAtldnydpnPgl9TJDM3zZ9/3acm+n+Gu4KVctltA3OOh aeinxz+mvdDczbdnxyE+UW7NxdbFvX4yDRU+Xb1RIR+3fWg6wyBw1uLj2RzXnVtbvRu8bu5a vlROwMc4cK/xAmUm8R1BP82PJ16ZmuNf8VrFpXhl3bwZH5RYijMSDbWYi4oTAUxj3Y9UAgAA Cc: "appsdir@ietf.org" , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] review rquest for draft-ietf-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-03 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:24:11 -0000 I did not submit my review, because I understood it was useless to do so due to Barry advise... I haven't found anything so important to be raised at this point of the process. /Salvatore On 7/9/13 5:48 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: >>> Hm. I'm not sure where the 9 July date came from, but the document >>> was approved on the 27 June telechat. Unless something *huge* is >>> found, which seems unlikely, a review now will not be of any use. >> when I asked Salvatore for the review (June 15th) the document was not on >> June 27th telechat, thus we assumed it would have been on the next one, end >> of this week. >> >> When does the telechat aganda(s) become final? (in general). > It's supposed to be the week before the telechat, so figure that > things are pretty stable by the previous Friday (5 July for the 11 > July telechat). Of course, it would be most helpful to already have > reviews by that time, so that's not good for planning. > > It's better to plan based on the Last Call dates, and it's best to > have the directorate reviews in during the Last Call period anyway -- > appsdir reviews should be subject to the same deadlines as other Last > Call comments. Here's what I would do, by way of planning (it's not > perfect, but it will usually work): > > - Look at when the Last Call ends. > - Look at the next telechat date after the Last Call ends. > - Back up to the previous Friday from the telechat date. > - Ask for the review to be done by the end of Last Call *or* by that > Friday date, whichever is earlier. > > Examples: > Last Call ends between 28 June and 5 July, ask for the review by the > Last Call end date. > Last Call ends between 6 July and 11 July, ask for the review by 5 July. > > Is that workable? > >> On http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/tracker there are also the >> "to do" reviews, with the review delivery dates (the drafts above the >> ============ line), thus it can be checked in real time. In something goes >> on the telechat agenda before the review deadline, and I miss it, please >> send a quick warning note as soon as this happen, thus we can fix the >> problem (I might not see it if I'm not in the office for some reason). > We'll try, but we're not usually watching things that closely. The > above planning should cover most cases, and what they don't cover > won't be a big deal. > > Barry > > From salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com Fri Jul 12 11:28:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E9911E8170 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:28:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gZaUko2pnn1n for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw7.ericsson.se (mailgw7.ericsson.se [193.180.251.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CC921F9F82 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:28:33 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b7ef76d000004bbc-04-51e04acfafa3 Received: from ESESSHC024.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw7.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id B2.AD.19388.FCA40E15; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:28:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.lmf.ericsson.se (153.88.183.18) by smtp.internal.ericsson.com (153.88.183.92) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.328.9; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:28:31 +0200 Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se [131.160.33.3]) by mail.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652E311022D; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 21:28:31 +0300 (EEST) Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD055573B; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 21:28:27 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Salvatore-Loretos-MacBook-Pro.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CD353D35; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 21:28:26 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <51E04ACD.9070607@ericsson.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:28:29 +0200 From: Salvatore Loreto User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barry Leiba References: <51C18323.3020204@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrILMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvre4FrweBBq/MLaZO3cdqcWjxJVaL hXc2szswe7Ss6mX22PruHaPHkiU/mQKYo7hsUlJzMstSi/TtErgy5q+pK5gpUvFwUw9jA+Nj /i5GTg4JAROJebM3MkPYYhIX7q1n62Lk4hASOMwo8WHnbGYIZz2jxNXWpUwQzl5Gic/P26HK 1jFKTN95hh3C2c4o0bj+P9gwXgFtiZOXL7KA2CwCqhLr57Wxg9hsAmYSzx9uAasRFUiWeH/l DlS9oMTJmU/A6kUENCWef57CBGIzC0RJXDi1CqxGWCBU4uXsf1Cbu5glNi3qBBvKKRAo8Wb1 YhaIBluJC3OuQ9nyEtvfzoH6Tk3i6rlNYLaQgJZE79lOpgmMorOQ7J6FpH0WkvYFjMyrGNlz EzNz0svNNzECo+Hglt8GOxg33Rc7xCjNwaIkzrtZ70ygkEB6YklqdmpqQWpRfFFpTmrxIUYm Dk6pBkaNyXuSNzVbiK2KXpPIsJNtUXOAT32l2IRX+2wmM5eqvbt8ZMaxS9EuJ9w35F5O12zp 0Hx2j/eAyI+Dd9odmU/05E/c6bzr6L6CwvfrdDc0nebg+pV6bOPXqt+vfjMmtU15HRrz9156 RXXPJ4vVu/fJtU6ffKiJsWNLn9asc0/3bmnYnK2ft5JdiaU4I9FQi7moOBEAQiCpplQCAAA= Cc: "appsdir@ietf.org" , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] review rquest for draft-ietf-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-03 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:28:55 -0000 I am usually submitting reviews really close to the deadline: the actual deadline day, if not the day after it. I know is a bad habit, but it is due to the workload and other priorities usually happen at work. So it would be really great if the deadline is set not so close to the telechat day where the draft will be discussed /Salvatore On 7/9/13 5:48 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: >>> Hm. I'm not sure where the 9 July date came from, but the document >>> was approved on the 27 June telechat. Unless something *huge* is >>> found, which seems unlikely, a review now will not be of any use. >> when I asked Salvatore for the review (June 15th) the document was not on >> June 27th telechat, thus we assumed it would have been on the next one, end >> of this week. >> >> When does the telechat aganda(s) become final? (in general). > It's supposed to be the week before the telechat, so figure that > things are pretty stable by the previous Friday (5 July for the 11 > July telechat). Of course, it would be most helpful to already have > reviews by that time, so that's not good for planning. > > It's better to plan based on the Last Call dates, and it's best to > have the directorate reviews in during the Last Call period anyway -- > appsdir reviews should be subject to the same deadlines as other Last > Call comments. Here's what I would do, by way of planning (it's not > perfect, but it will usually work): > > - Look at when the Last Call ends. > - Look at the next telechat date after the Last Call ends. > - Back up to the previous Friday from the telechat date. > - Ask for the review to be done by the end of Last Call *or* by that > Friday date, whichever is earlier. > > Examples: > Last Call ends between 28 June and 5 July, ask for the review by the > Last Call end date. > Last Call ends between 6 July and 11 July, ask for the review by 5 July. > > Is that workable? > >> On http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/tracker there are also the >> "to do" reviews, with the review delivery dates (the drafts above the >> ============ line), thus it can be checked in real time. In something goes >> on the telechat agenda before the review deadline, and I miss it, please >> send a quick warning note as soon as this happen, thus we can fix the >> problem (I might not see it if I'm not in the office for some reason). > We'll try, but we're not usually watching things that closely. The > above planning should cover most cases, and what they don't cover > won't be a big deal. > > Barry > > From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Wed Jul 17 05:49:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB35411E80A5 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:49:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.929, BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TdpVw793ROAq for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EDB21F9F50 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:49:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it To: Larry Masinter Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1374065354; bh=bKl2Xqd2vbs5CfZTfSFEibLZJ4L/hvX8ZH+hbODeh4w=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject; b=DwJzn0wV7nWsz+sEtZXo/Di+S00CueasIeynNH9S9NvaX2i1mDepapk6jGw7dWi9T EhislWlD3BY1K9cITs4U+BlOHakUlMd+eH23BBKMnT+Z83dDp30sh0TQ5CJYxxsSGT d83RRp8GWrMgQtw6v9/5WSccFOpRwnNTHZ/E34dM= Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] review of draft-ietf-weirds-using-http-07 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:49:29 -0000 Hello Larry, could you please perfomr a review of draft-ietf-weirds-using-http-07 by July 31st (which is also the IETF LC deadline) ? please ACK, thanks! all the best! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Wed Jul 17 05:55:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE2521F999E for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:55:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.621 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.621 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.074, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9KHssgIIZ94t for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D73D21F873C for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:55:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1374065709; bh=u7CflgN60RZxaGKKAIgmaStbbiS2kvctatGuathA44o=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject; b=BcTyKyhtxUmCfFn32bbfE4/td4PuIo5CYHeUiwE3RMN1RJUYu83nUAtcZjTR0RCBE vXsxlFz7XgAgM6BkH967lhkrvlqrUTA0Vyx9+77X82F3RACAID2D8Y3oAMHymFSNII bUr07rWY9lNivps2JKnsdAo7Mqpi89352iKyHU/0= Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] review of draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-04 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:55:15 -0000 Hello Murray, could you please perform a review of draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-04 by July 31st (LC end date) ? please let us know if it is ok! all the best! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From superuser@gmail.com Wed Jul 17 07:03:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E42021E804B for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:03:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j3Z11Gn1Rnwt for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x230.google.com (mail-wi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::230]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A7521F9E44 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f176.google.com with SMTP id ey16so5451947wid.15 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=t6BaZZnsRdNKmkzn3k/JUT/Z93PA/ZtYXGXuSj5OJN8=; b=O2HuSCE0mCxSFU8dlofMkROzhaKMPOGz79S7IkD69ubf68srVh4lSnZkrmVPPPLzbX 0LgIt1gn4d4t+AlUcPALxOqFRULnHlC0yvHdayAJ2jqUXzlOedE3fGYWkATZd8FsthI9 loqSwahFgy1ABEjfj/t3uVwxniTVMK4cTDRUX3zJ2PKnqCioyFzb7Rd0gkFCZxKAFXWg KJW03CoOrY5Vb0jt/IhIcUzSeTNT54eXKdPDfg+/pMIWIhimW7/uJ1W6DSgbf7Ils3nt JwyfebVhaBNM+2gWJB9Ibw9rngGX1/Cn8vJ0i+q2GUTOF641ZYnkAcE2M6lcCjiEwV9O 4y2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.189.102 with SMTP id gh6mr4867345wic.19.1374069815900; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.90.16 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:03:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: Claudio Allocchio Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3436a46010304e1b58f6c Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] review of draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-04 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:03:37 -0000 --001a11c3436a46010304e1b58f6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Claudio Allocchio < Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> wrote: > could you please perform a review of draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-04 by July > 31st (LC end date) ? > > please let us know if it is ok! > > > Hi Claudio, I co-chair that working group, so I'm not a good choice for this review. -MSK --001a11c3436a46010304e1b58f6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Claudio Allocchio <Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> wrote:
could you please perform a review of draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-04 by July 31st (LC end date) ?

please let us know if it is ok!



Hi Claudio,

I co-chair that working group, so I'm not a good choice for this review.

-MSK
--001a11c3436a46010304e1b58f6c-- From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Wed Jul 17 10:27:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F261621F8F4F for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:27:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.452 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.452 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.267, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4yJ-k8AAYt8M for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DA421F9339 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:27:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it To: Tony Hansen , "Murray S. Kucherawy" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1374082055; bh=vNqqhqM11XFCPPCEr3HiGRwz7+prIhUYfuO5eFZgFGM=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=BCamK8MhBw0M/ZHrudGUQ2bq63Hu9NfykqmWtJ13PM+e9LJCFdKoEC4n3dRuDSfHi LclolE0syhtler5936mkRnbXzwTM+ZTLsVHPlFhsQGeF4CTtbQlQMVJ08rQaNGfAQB WraZh8cI/qeTok0RCogWM4XEu1WycY4gIXbQH6/I= Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] review of draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-04 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:27:49 -0000 On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Claudio Allocchio < > Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> wrote: > >> could you please perform a review of draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-04 by July >> 31st (LC end date) ? >> >> please let us know if it is ok! >> > Hi Claudio, > > I co-chair that working group, so I'm not a good choice for this review. yes... true. What about Tony (Hansen) ? Tony could you do that? Let us know! > > -MSK > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Wed Jul 17 10:45:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D8821F9EA3 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:45:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.237, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fm-8JneT5wNW for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DDB21F99E9 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:45:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it To: Ray Polk Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1374083111; bh=sSx5IE2G4G+ZkzNDUap4Nb/qhBLAXVRam1dV38SbmGI=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject; b=a4ap64cnu5AlFR3yCWaX67RwdTB/61DuF1P2yMuBzvI82NZgAXrtUWtIn8rau4/hJ 5CVFbQ/vjI8EHuX76g9ItCXQ/O/vrF1lyURxZckqFIy2EeydQtBLiYu9HDS4PTWHSY wQrXfv4N4WRDH+Qq7qTmqn9orBNd1U7gPXcSOBfo= Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] review of draft-bormann-cbor-04 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:45:18 -0000 Hello Ray, could you please perform a review of draft-bormann-cbor-04 by August 13th (which is the LC end date) ? Please let us know and ack ! thanks indeed and all th best! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Wed Jul 17 10:57:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454C321E8093 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:57:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.505 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.505 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.214, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GLQ3cKHXJ9T7 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0989321E808A for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:57:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it To: appsdir@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1374083839; bh=CU09ox4N4nSaYgheF6Ex/LurgqPqHVwTceE+vz40Ggg=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=OUsgVrQaiDBRVIKFq2Poe7oeyLvtDx2fd5gk3jMRV42EYGkUjB9pQhX9F9RSVpj9W 8MsfbwqdSYEjIyGoD8nFMtBW/JwUolBhuSk/hBkxf2AhxVfTTeqbv+PuIArZ4o1X7R oIv+2xfmNKSr8tDaPH4w7pirkfSZvbBr2R6ZOhVQ= Subject: [appsdir] pending reviews and new reviews X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:57:25 -0000 Hello all, as you may have noticed, I'm trying to get potential reviews as soon as the IETF last call starts, to avoid last minute needs when drafts arrive (sometime quicker than expected) on IESG desk. There are also areas where members of AppsDir are often also the editors of the drafts, or the WG chairs, which makes choice of reviewrs sometimes slower. In the next weeks I'll try to find also more potential reviews, to include in AppsDir for these areas, and other where we lack expertise. In the mean time, keep an eye on http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/tracker where I try to keep in real time the situation. As you will see we also have one draft draft-housley-ltans-oids-00 which has not been tentatively assigned (suggestions? volunteers?). Thanks indeed for all your great and very useful job!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From ray.polk@oracle.com Wed Jul 17 12:25:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BD121E8086 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:25:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u1yHoXaijjI8 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC8F11E80E0 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r6HJPIkd025623 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:25:19 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6HJPGCp024715 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:25:17 GMT Received: from abhmt108.oracle.com (abhmt108.oracle.com [141.146.116.60]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6HJPGUp024712; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:25:16 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <0c97e5e4-52b2-44e7-b910-5343d4f55d4b@default> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:25:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Ray Polk To: X-Mailer: Zimbra on Oracle Beehive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] review of draft-bormann-cbor-04 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:25:36 -0000 I will complete a review by August 9th. Regards, Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it To: ray.polk@oracle.com Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:45:17 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: review of draft-bormann-cbor-04 Hello Ray, could you please perform a review of draft-bormann-cbor-04 by August 13th= =20 (which is the LC end date) ? Please let us know and ack ! thanks indeed and all th best! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr= .it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=3DClaudio; S=3DAlloc= chio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=3Dgarr; A=3Dgarr; C= =3Dit; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Wed Jul 17 14:00:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45A521F99E9 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:00:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.525 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.525 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.194, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kgDQbIX2lT8u for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475C321F9E6E for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 23:00:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it To: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <86AC3A78-FED7-43C3-8D3A-FA3A6E84AA96@tzi.org> Message-ID: References: <86AC3A78-FED7-43C3-8D3A-FA3A6E84AA96@tzi.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1374094820; bh=CbxZeJYcq2EPqlhrjE2zUN4sH+iMXswk9pHpMBDyn30=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=a/L735G/OSlMGspbvgri1S+15Y7R+30xKsYqLmsUUiRTszv4vHRUWpU+zTerYZxUz 2ANADEiCJYTBwpmyI6lwNgUBgbQNdHFY1NsUwISIKAiIMH886jErWJ0HYt8mJjzdBm fwxEBDppa94Rf6vaM0i47BZec753lUnLhgwSdeXo= Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] pending reviews and new reviews X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 21:00:29 -0000 On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Carsten Bormann wrote: > I'm vaguely familiar with LTANS and can do this when I'm back on the 23rd. ok, thanks! "assigned" ! ;-) > > Sent from my iPad > > On 17.07.2013, at 19:57, Claudio Allocchio wrote: > >> As you will see we also have one draft >> >> draft-housley-ltans-oids-00 >> >> which has not been tentatively assigned (suggestions? volunteers?). > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From tony@att.com Thu Jul 18 12:41:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CCFB11E81F6 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:41:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.422 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.422 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.177, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TfcH46GTokuE for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com [209.65.160.93]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B5921E8096 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown [144.160.20.145] (EHLO mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) by nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.15.0-1) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id ac448e15.0.1343527.00-436.3734865.nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:40:58 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 51e844ca6c75e963-871f11f5b4340bbe024679869c29bec4ac842874 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IJewsv030646 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:40:58 -0400 Received: from alpi131.aldc.att.com (alpi131.aldc.att.com [130.8.218.69]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IJep58030542 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:40:53 -0400 Received: from alpi153.aldc.att.com (alpi153.aldc.att.com [130.8.42.31]) by alpi131.aldc.att.com (RSA Interceptor) for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:40:44 GMT Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi153.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IJei51008539 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:40:44 -0400 Received: from dns.maillennium.att.com (maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alpi153.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IJeepE008437 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:40:40 -0400 Received: from [135.70.201.233] (vpn-135-70-201-233.vpn.east.att.com[135.70.201.233]) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20130718194039gw100bhhlqe> (Authid: tony); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:40:39 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.70.201.233] Message-ID: <51E844B6.4030002@att.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:40:38 -0400 From: Tony Hansen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Claudio Allocchio References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.20.145] X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=FtiyCRXq c=1 sm=0 a=ZRNLZ4dFUbCvG8UMqPvVAA==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=iEh7Qm9fA4cA:10 a=3ukmKKXcZEAA:10 a=WDGcR350I-QA:10 a=ofM] X-AnalysisOut: [gfj31e3cA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=zQP7CpK] X-AnalysisOut: [OAAAA:8 a=t0zOZlmFhwcA:10 a=pkQkX7YbAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:] X-AnalysisOut: [8 a=xKwV-lLoVqHXxcPNDOYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=x5wUAocJE2o] X-AnalysisOut: [A:10 a=lZB815dzVvQA:10] Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, "Murray S. Kucherawy" Subject: Re: [appsdir] review of draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-04 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:41:08 -0000 I'll give it a whirl. Tony On 7/17/2013 1:27 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Claudio Allocchio < >> Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> wrote: >> >>> could you please perform a review of draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-04 >>> by July >>> 31st (LC end date) ? >>> >>> please let us know if it is ok! >>> >> Hi Claudio, >> >> I co-chair that working group, so I'm not a good choice for this review. > > yes... true. > > What about Tony (Hansen) ? Tony could you do that? Let us know! > > > >> >> -MSK >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Claudio Allocchio G A R R > Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it > Senior Technical Officer > tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; > S=Allocchio; > fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; > C=it; > > PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca > _______________________________________________ > appsdir mailing list > appsdir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Thu Jul 18 13:21:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182CB11E8199 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:21:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.164, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VRIKZDSklfi4 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D751C11E81E6 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:21:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it To: Tony Hansen In-Reply-To: <51E844B6.4030002@att.com> Message-ID: References: <51E844B6.4030002@att.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1374178877; bh=hKS0ovj17AsCoMj8LfOsIsULiwCNCmS+mgPmMllw+jQ=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=WCLh3Lku0bZYMc0enW1Bxl2xOmfP9NSJLLDdDiSf9AS98e8KpgTCNyRJiceDQLq5t D9vSVlSiIwWIwoWaqUVYcJmYvPJ1RZunxi0/JHzqRi6dk6x2PH/gY4bwsRZqDzZ0/y xmItg6MPcjIGypj7FXeDmIssziWv1MjYYGKf+y2Y= Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, "Murray S. Kucherawy" , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] review of draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-04 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:21:41 -0000 On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Tony Hansen wrote: > I'll give it a whirl. thank you ! :-) > > Tony > > On 7/17/2013 1:27 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >> >> On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Claudio Allocchio < >>> Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> wrote: >>> >>>> could you please perform a review of draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-04 >>>> by July >>>> 31st (LC end date) ? >>>> >>>> please let us know if it is ok! >>>> >>> Hi Claudio, >>> >>> I co-chair that working group, so I'm not a good choice for this review. >> >> yes... true. >> >> What about Tony (Hansen) ? Tony could you do that? Let us know! >> >> >> >>> >>> -MSK >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Claudio Allocchio G A R R >> Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it >> Senior Technical Officer >> tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; >> S=Allocchio; >> fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; >> C=it; >> >> PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca >> _______________________________________________ >> appsdir mailing list >> appsdir@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir > > _______________________________________________ > appsdir mailing list > appsdir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Sat Jul 27 06:32:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9496B21F91CE for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 06:32:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.719 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.719 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cKzvHDx+oKvL for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 06:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF3021F9A21 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 06:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 15:31:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3 To: AppsDir@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1374931912; bh=qP9ABfAVNab3TwVqB1pyYUyYnMOYMD6qL1OcC8Vb4Tw=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject; b=gt3oFFiYZpr0YBJpwlUPq0UVZJFFBm1GJ4nULlMfzwPwZn2b7JdH7thvSOVhB3Qv3 3rKRugJx63HS+AdB+p0/ev3AICBHvcK9fAE0IVwWwvki72DE/c/K+uZTG7tkUqYWwc exCmYvKZ3vsdsYrfUiyqcYoqx7KZrHgYbe11NSa8= Cc: Pete Resnick , Barry Leiba , Jari Arkko Subject: [appsdir] IMPORTANT: tail-heavy process and early directorate reviews (fwd) X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:32:07 -0000 Hi all, as you can see from the message below, we are now ready to start the "early review" experiment which should allow us also more time for accomplishing reviews, and a better interaction with WGs at an earlier stage. Please read carefully Jari's message, and also add your comments and suggestions! In the mean time, our usual "during IETF LC" review process continues as normal business, while the early review process starts up (I'm to send the new list of drafts in LC in a few minutes). all the best! PS: As I'm on vacations (sending this from my house terrace on the seafront) I myself might be late until August 20th ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:35:03 +0300 From: Jari Arkko To: Barry Leiba , Pete Resnick , Stephen Farrell , Sean Turner , joel jaeggli , Benoit Claise , A. Jean Mahoney , Tero Kivinen , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: tail-heavy process and early directorate reviews Ok. So by now you should have seen that you've become a member of the dir-coord list (we changed the name). We've left TSV and OPS directorate coordinators out for now. So here's the plan on how this will work. Please comment. Internet Drafts sent for approval as RFCs are reviewed by individuals during the IETF Last Call, the Area Directors, IANA, as well as a number of volunteers in various directorates and review teams. The reviews from these teams has gained a significant role in ensuring that the IETF produces high-quality, understandable and implementable RFCs. Yet, as discussed in http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/05/balancing-the-process/ we have a general problem that quite a lot of the work around IETF documents happens at the end of the process. In particular, a number of the reviews during IETF last call point out issues that end up being raised by the IESG as comments when deciding for the final approval of the document. It is of course good that issues are caught, but raising them earlier would be better. And it would be better if the working groups - the intended focus point of work on a topic - would get to handle them, as opposed to raising these issues with the IESG. The IESG discussed these issues in its May 2013 retreat, and decided to experiment with three actions designed to move more work to the responsibility of the working groups: (1) Perform some reviews that are now happening at IETF Last Call a bit earlier. (2) Invite document shepherds on IESG telechats when there's a document that is likely to require discussion. (3) When a document has a number of issues, hand over the process back to the working group, as opposed to the IESG tracking the issues. Among other things, this will ensure that changes are discussed in an open working group list and agreed through consensus. Building quality and cross-area review to the process earlier is of course a big effort. For the first item above, we are launching an experiment to make a small change to current directorate review procedures to learn if we can move reviews a little bit earlier. If successful, this experiment will enable working groups to deal with issues before IETF Last Call and IESG review and empower the working groups to be in charge of the documents throughout their life cycle. We are also hoping that document quality will improve and number of issues discussed in the IESG will be lower. While the number of reviews as such is not changed, some additional effort and care will however be required from the reviewers, directorate coordinators/secretaries, the working group chairs, and other participants. The experiment will show us whether this effort is reasonable and if there are any unexpected effects. The experiment is performed on a voluntary basis by each directorate. As early review requests come in, the directorates can throttle workload by either processing the requests or reverting to the existing procedures. Initially, the Gen-ART, Security Directorate, and Applications Area Directorate are included in this effort. Other directorates may be added later. The experiment will be reviewed after six months. Care must be taken to avoid a number of possible drawbacks. There may be problematic documents that would require much re-review and effort. Similarly, working groups often perform a number of working group last calls on a document, and it would be undesirable to engage the reviewer before the document was really ready to be sent forward. And when reviewers send comments, it is important that the group listens to the comments in the right way, like you would for a review from a security expert or a general networking expert. E-mail practices around sending and responding to comments have to be carefully managed, as the outside reviewers are typically not list members. For the working group chairs, you can request a review by sending mail to dir-coord@ietf.org, indicating the name of the document. You can ask for a review as soon as a working group last call has ended successfully and the document edits are done. Initially, it would make sense to ask for reviews on documents that you feel are likely the most stable ones. To avoid congesting the reviewer resources, ask for this service only for some documents, not as a wholesale service on every document you submit for publication. You can ask for the review in parallel with ongoing AD reviews, filling out the shepherd questionnaire, etc. The hope is that reviews can come in in the same time frame as other tasks in this stage, and that you can take the comments into account and revise the document before finally sending it out for IETF Last Call. Reviews will be sent to you and potentially the working group mailing list. You may need to forward comments and/or approve new posters to the list. Discussion on the mailing list is encouraged, but please try to ensure that the reviewer is kept on the Cc line, as he or she may not be on the list itself. Treat the reviews with respect and keep it in mind that outside experts may have opinions that need to be taken into account, even if the working group had not considered those aspects before. Mediate and monitor the discussion actively. Try to keep the reviewer out of e-mail storms and work out solutions separately and then engage the reviewer again. For the directorate coordinators/secretaries, please monitor the dir-coord@ietf.list. If there is a request for a review, dispatch the task to a reviewer. Managing overload is your task. Please acknowledge requests and whether you can accommodate them. Directorates that today review documents twice, at IETF Last Call and then before entering the IESG telechat should continue this practice by doing the early review and then the IESG telechat review. Existing practices such as retaining the same reviewer for checking the same version is useful. Your review tools and practices may need adjustment to accommodate reviews happening at different times. For the reviewers, take into account the context. Post your reviews to the working group chairs, authors, and Cc the working group mailing list if necessary. If your review team uses a template for these e-mails, some changes may be necessary in the template for the early review. Some of those changes have been discussed, e.g., in the Gen-ART list. For everyone, please collect your experiences so that in six months we can evaluate how you liked the experience. And thank you for your participation in this effort! Jari From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Sat Jul 27 07:02:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1D121F8C7C for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 07:02:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.719 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.719 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8ezwD1nRj2nx for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 07:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A27821F8C3E for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 07:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:01:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3 To: duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp, julian.reschke@gmx.de, martin.thomson@gmail.com, superuser@gmail.com, AppsDir@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1374933730; bh=CcCWkvaa7xK2V7iwZ8WZOIuw2tuFo0rGvCxzn+51zwg=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=o9Nkm20Rlq6nI1X0DCSqCXfT4Q5Do/V8RWTmWtUsi/ZU+tcu9z7y7pfK2xwQMXC7W aouS+7NjDE8dDizQEKsHffn7rypiAny3fRxQa4v/W0ohrmm5gTSrCEKZXYZIMtI4g0 Ufkh1ZjOA34cIddwIqYaqw3Z3LXjPc67HxJYbcd0= Subject: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:02:18 -0000 Here I am... we need to review the following drafts which are in LC now: draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-10 due date: August 16th 2013 Assigned to Martin Duerst. draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 due date: August 16th 2013 Assigned to Julian Reschke. draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-06 due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some more time) Assigned to Martin Thomson. draft-ietf-geopriv-res-gw-lis-discovery-05 due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some more time) Assigned to Murray S. Kucherawy. Please ACK if you can make the review ! see you all soon! Best! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From julian.reschke@gmx.de Sat Jul 27 09:41:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7E921F9B60 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 09:41:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-4.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id USH93JI8WGz7 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 09:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677A621F9B92 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 09:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.117] ([93.217.69.203]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MD9q8-1UtAKR0dZc-00GZjl for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:41:05 +0200 Message-ID: <51F3F80F.3080208@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:40:47 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Claudio Allocchio References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:KJ1h8gtj22e8OTJmgnKbP8IODGF3Vz8zpq0kMdKzfFr5BsEl6rc 92TogIc4MgLT2l0tMgYpZ8+fx0MjzuBHdzPuvh2c6nSBEQKSK4g2UF5yWB9fDUPD1x4vU1k nXltMOdsFLUih3KPIFUwEibyn8p1+utCUr3dDJKW5dC4nkYRB1TvE5iyXts+Zu/mR51SNj4 GDsjtYLizwP3DUFtZ9zYQ== Cc: superuser@gmail.com, duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp, AppsDir@ietf.org, martin.thomson@gmail.com Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:41:15 -0000 On 2013-07-27 16:01, Claudio Allocchio wrote: > ... > draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 > due date: August 16th 2013 > Assigned to Julian Reschke. > ... Sorry, can't make it. Best regards, Julian From tbray@textuality.com Sat Jul 27 10:12:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A6821F9A5F for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:12:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.31 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.31 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1-m49mUeOQFT for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-f182.google.com (mail-ve0-f182.google.com [209.85.128.182]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D2B21F8E2A for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f182.google.com with SMTP id m1so1620527ves.13 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:12:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=SgqHcTWAWW66UKj7dos8LhbJyaxUpl4T46P0PzGIkJA=; b=gobVgJy03Ige7sWfFAPP9Nk4JnraxM/SJ69O447P/s3dE/nL4GkM6fTJ0Cpm4VQeWi roHEtRAT31/hhrjJbtCshE/QsWCkKYq99oYa49CV+HyNqGu/LZZmb/tizt+OuMdJepxZ gh6rbhr59+QD5VGZEQDXqG21wKUQiqjmmIGezD8mKcdXgNPvJ/91amrrtC9Rp7/ShP0X 6cB52PN+1MD5eyvUQFInc+k1iejaMRyIKQCM1vXZxfPot0HndI7Y4Guruec7e6YiDHWn oKF7YTvf6y1FntSWhpONOvTKlOxfFBvBcT2tIXNYmA4ZRTpkLt1H0zj1vLnep6odElp3 2CRw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.85.161 with SMTP id i1mr22626722vez.97.1374945134818; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.248.198 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:12:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [24.84.235.32] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:12:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Bray To: Claudio Allocchio Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6da6ac58d2d104e2815c56 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkqeMXlsxHyHl+Hrbq9toTjFkNsKzSRuH+nIZ6i7PoneEy35xUSKTGo9coqQoNC5lJyfrJP Cc: Julian Reschke , Murray Kucherawy , Martin Duerst , "appsdir@ietf.org" , Martin Thomson Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:12:20 -0000 --047d7b6da6ac58d2d104e2815c56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As some of you will have noticed, I had unkind things to say about the imei-urn drafts on the ietf@ list, the idea seems problematic to me. So I=E2=80=99ve actually read them already. And would volunteer to re-do, foc= using on nits & consistency rather than the whole thing being a stupid idea. Only that might be seen as unfair. Up to you, Claudio. -T On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Claudio Allocchio < Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> wrote: > > Here I am... > > we need to review the following drafts which are in LC now: > > draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-**as-instanceid-10 > due date: August 16th 2013 > Assigned to Martin Duerst. > > draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-**urn-16 > due date: August 16th 2013 > Assigned to Julian Reschke. > > draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-**location-06 > due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some mor= e > time) > Assigned to Martin Thomson. > > draft-ietf-geopriv-res-gw-lis-**discovery-05 > due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some mor= e > time) > Assigned to Murray S. Kucherawy. > > Please ACK if you can make the review ! > > see you all soon! > > Best! > > ------------------------------**------------------------------** > ------------------ > Claudio Allocchio G A R R > Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it > Senior Technical Officer > tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=3DClaudio; > S=3DAllocchio; > fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=3Dgarr; A=3Dgarr; = C=3Dit; > > PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/**keys.php3#ca > ______________________________**_________________ > appsdir mailing list > appsdir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/appsdir > --047d7b6da6ac58d2d104e2815c56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As some of you will have noticed, I had unkind things to s= ay about the imei-urn drafts on the ietf@ list, the=C2=A0 idea seems proble= matic to me.=C2=A0 So I=E2=80=99ve actually read them already.=C2=A0 And wo= uld volunteer to re-do, focusing on nits & consistency rather than the = whole thing being a stupid idea. Only that might be seen as unfair. Up to y= ou, Claudio.=C2=A0 -T


On Sat,= Jul 27, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Claudio Allocchio <Claudio.Allocchio@g= arr.it> wrote:

Here I am...

we need to review the following drafts which are in LC now:

draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-10
due date: August 16th 2013
Assigned to Martin Duerst.

draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16
due date: August 16th 2013
Assigned to Julian Reschke.

draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-06
due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some more = time)
Assigned to Martin Thomson.

draft-ietf-geopriv-res-gw-lis-discovery-05
due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some more = time)
Assigned to Murray S. Kucherawy.

Please ACK if you can make the review !

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--047d7b6da6ac58d2d104e2815c56-- From sm@elandsys.com Sat Jul 27 10:47:05 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C91B11E80DF for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:47:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id roeyG1iJMrb3 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E084111E80D9 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.226.232.155]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6RHhSOk025781 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:43:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1374947031; bh=4Lo+EaPKAtCDMyhfmCgf3/o+AmXGjKg0kvZFGmBfPLk=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=JzY5pgeD+V/QWIXhfVLUWcphynsnp4ES6u7yaY9femUK3hm7A2oolX/MinadZjRW3 BKHFgwWOHxR8p7tDfJ2SCZ5SOcEE7Pa3Tw42WZQT/j3UY1zwtESzqacEHwXOYW/Zv6 TI8RP8ESfyPBdAIp3knwn5ld7zP41RZmXscF8Zj4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1374947031; i=@elandsys.com; bh=4Lo+EaPKAtCDMyhfmCgf3/o+AmXGjKg0kvZFGmBfPLk=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=Sis0/vuHXNl3FQFfwmCHdQp/Bq/+npYEHY//jDx0b50Sdn3GxnMq1SQw0mIbCK7fS 9EF9Zyzf1dfuK2Ht3n+R4W4aW3PjGxM2aNEsPANcbSNN431aSj2LvZQq3bOHZPD3QE Acp8eMEzPvcbbMCXsrs9UDTOq8Kve1HMZQjeuY2c= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130727102348.0ca9f288@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 10:42:51 -0700 To: Tim Bray , Claudio Allocchio From: SM In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Martin Duerst , appsdir@ietf.org, Martin Thomson Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:47:05 -0000 Hi Tim, At 10:12 27-07-2013, Tim Bray wrote: >As some of you will have noticed, I had unkind things to say about >the imei-urn drafts on the ietf@ list, the idea seems problematic to >me. So I've actually read them already. And would volunteer to >re-do, focusing on nits & consistency rather than the whole thing >being a stupid idea. Only that might be seen as unfair. Up to you, Claudio. -T Your messages were fine. I personally think that you would do a very good review. I don't know how the author will read the review if you do it given that you have already stated a position. I usually avoid it if there can be a perception that the review is unfair. Claudio, Martin is one of the authors of draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-06. :-) Best regards, -sm From dhc@dcrocker.net Sat Jul 27 11:06:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7ED421F9ACA for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:06:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sOx0utXWEYll for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633CC21F9AD3 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.128.101.66] ([217.111.141.59]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6RI5s1P031941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:05:58 -0700 Message-ID: <51F40BFF.8000405@dcrocker.net> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:05:51 +0100 From: Dave Crocker Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Claudio Allocchio References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.66]); Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Pete Resnick , AppsDir@ietf.org, Jari Arkko , Barry Leiba Subject: Re: [appsdir] IMPORTANT: tail-heavy process and early directorate reviews (fwd) X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:06:39 -0000 On 7/27/2013 2:31 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote: > should allow us also more time for accomplishing reviews Not based on what I just went through, with the sequence shown below. My review window started at 3 weeks and suddenly went down to 1. This revised process needs to have predictable minimums for the reviewers. 1 week is unlikely to qualify. To be clear, the problem is a lack of coordination between the IESG scheduling and the independent reviews. d/ ------------------------------------------------- > Subject: Re: [appsdir] drafts for review > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 22:33:10 +0200 (CEST) > From: Claudio Allocchio > To: Dave Crocker > CC: Claudio Allocchio > > >> what's the due date? > > > still not on IESG agenda... let's say July 24th? Thus we are safe... ? ------------------------------------------------- > Subject: URGENT Re: [appsdir] drafts for review > Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:17:11 +0200 (CEST) > From: Claudio Allocchio > To: Dave Crocker > CC: Claudio Allocchio > > > Dave, > > the IESG has put the draft on the next telechat! Which is on July 11th. > > Most of the ballots say "OK", thus if you can give it a quicker review and > send it we can just confirm that. > > Sorry, they changed the IESG agenda yesterday... -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From barryleiba@gmail.com Sat Jul 27 14:44:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900B411E810D for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:44:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.968 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.968 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.010, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cJ7F3HCuqnTj for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x22b.google.com (mail-qa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD2211E8110 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id cl20so1002652qab.2 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:44:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=l+s/6jtoNj7A5WwrRfNERXkUICJaVz1FV9RQJiihaIE=; b=L8hLbKtSxWXDd9MKnVWKMiX7Vyx3pk8BL3OJLdyZ+/OJqOf+KgvT+9F50kRMwMp9LE cTOI74jXqOpPOsquu4Df/cs7GrcNbc4f4dJOHathSF99P2ZJ1Zi7/jOkKKjet3B9tzMk 1zD4AfzLYTUWEe1IA8oQKEMHdS4ytmESYQbJICn9OXfDNKQFhFwp5Gfqhjic5x89fNcC FUCsxTY0huQvAp/TSVn5Et60qolDAJ2a6+8dSDTFa8AtVrBHx57tJKUYTkpQh8HX+2/L eR8VVGo9BpNSflmMrIdx24ikai64h6NBZpVn3plb2d4lNEddOZxW3sKZ+Ow6MWQzEcDE 93MA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.97.66 with SMTP id k2mr41072291qan.109.1374961480402; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Sender: barryleiba@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.59.211 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:44:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51F40BFF.8000405@dcrocker.net> References: <51F40BFF.8000405@dcrocker.net> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:44:40 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: UWidUfXrxRyRZHfcUJVNnUYLV7c Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: Dave Crocker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Pete Resnick , "appsdir@ietf.org" , Jari Arkko , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] IMPORTANT: tail-heavy process and early directorate reviews (fwd) X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:44:41 -0000 >> should allow us also more time for accomplishing reviews > > Not based on what I just went through, with the sequence shown below. > > My review window started at 3 weeks and suddenly went down to 1. Yes, that one sucked, and we're trying (separately) to fix that. The problem with the situation you're pointing out is how the appsdir selection and due dates coincided with the IESG telechat schedule (lack of coordination, as you say), and the fact that the appsdir leaders thought that if a document in last call is not scheduled for a telechat, then it wouldn't be on a telechat for some while yet (in fact, the ADs will put a document on the very next telechat, if it looks like there are no significant last call comments, and that can happen with little warning). Working on that. > This revised process needs to have predictable minimums for the reviewers. > 1 week is unlikely to qualify. This is a different process, not a revised one. In this one, WG chairs can specifically ask for earlier reviews from directorates, when they think their documents are ready for that -- rather than waiting for IETF Last Call. For documents that the WGCs select, this can only help the scheduling, and documents following this path should never have sudden changes of schedule. Barry From dhc@dcrocker.net Sat Jul 27 20:53:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A0B11E8160 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 20:53:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0oQ6ko0iuXAy for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 20:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811A311E8155 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 20:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.128.101.66] ([217.111.141.59]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6S3qbp1004703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 27 Jul 2013 20:52:41 -0700 Message-ID: <51F49582.1010500@dcrocker.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 04:52:34 +0100 From: Dave Crocker Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barry Leiba References: <51F40BFF.8000405@dcrocker.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.66]); Sat, 27 Jul 2013 20:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Pete Resnick , "appsdir@ietf.org" , Jari Arkko , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] IMPORTANT: tail-heavy process and early directorate reviews (fwd) X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 03:53:01 -0000 On 7/27/2013 10:44 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: > This is a different process, not a revised one. In this one, WG > chairs can specifically ask for earlier reviews from directorates, > when they think their documents are ready for that -- rather than > waiting for IETF Last Call. With thanks to RoseAnna Danna, oh. Nevermind. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org Sat Jul 27 23:22:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFFC21F9D24 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 23:22:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -95.362 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.362 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id abpxPi+Aalzo for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 23:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de (lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de [176.28.13.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC1621F9D23 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 23:22:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=gondrom.org; b=thb9sHjPlcTixUuQMmfIZXgnC6gJnZy6RQdTp5lSdqFXWR/wFZN7y+mSpZ9+we2M+SBWMt1ePNFWVjFka7HZx18CtENTXjjkq5FaM4z7ak7F9g+ySEn85jKWt8dFZkw2; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:X-Priority:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; Received: (qmail 13765 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2013 08:22:12 +0200 Received: from dhcp-461e.meeting.ietf.org (HELO ?130.129.70.30?) (130.129.70.30) by lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 28 Jul 2013 08:22:12 +0200 Message-ID: <51F4B894.9090807@gondrom.org> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:22:12 +0200 From: Tobias Gondrom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AppsDir@ietf.org X-Priority: 4 (Low) References: <51F40BFF.8000405@dcrocker.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: presnick@qti.qualcomm.com, barryleiba@computer.org, jari.arkko@piuha.net, dcrocker@bbiw.net, Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Subject: Re: [appsdir] IMPORTANT: tail-heavy process and early directorate reviews (fwd) X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 06:22:28 -0000 On 27/07/13 23:44, Barry Leiba wrote: >>> should allow us also more time for accomplishing reviews >> Not based on what I just went through, with the sequence shown below. >> >> My review window started at 3 weeks and suddenly went down to 1. > Yes, that one sucked, and we're trying (separately) to fix that. The > problem with the situation you're pointing out is how the appsdir > selection and due dates coincided with the IESG telechat schedule > (lack of coordination, as you say), and the fact that the appsdir > leaders thought that if a document in last call is not scheduled for a > telechat, then it wouldn't be on a telechat for some while yet (in > fact, the ADs will put a document on the very next telechat, if it > looks like there are no significant last call comments, and that can > happen with little warning). Working on that. > >> This revised process needs to have predictable minimums for the reviewers. >> 1 week is unlikely to qualify. > This is a different process, not a revised one. In this one, WG > chairs can specifically ask for earlier reviews from directorates, > when they think their documents are ready for that -- rather than > waiting for IETF Last Call. For documents that the WGCs select, this > can only help the scheduling, and documents following this path should > never have sudden changes of schedule. I agree with Dave. Maybe a small comment: how about: review time >= 3 weeks. (and no shortening of review dates...) (normally a good review takes me about an afternoon depending on document length. Btw. co-reviews take more time due to coordination round-trips. To schedule a review into one of the following 20 days is relatively easy. But usually my schedule is arranged and already packed for the coming 7-10 days. That means, I can slot things in after that but to fit a review into an already densely planned schedule of only the following 7 days is really stretching it....) Be upfront with WG chairs about the minimum timeline to help manage expectations and planning. It might also help with triggering reviews early. Best regards, Tobias > Barry > _______________________________________________ > appsdir mailing list > appsdir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir From duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp Sun Jul 28 01:07:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E41621F9DF3 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.023 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.023 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.233, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AH0t4fiVwn-X for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scintmta02.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp (scintmta02.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp [133.2.253.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEEB21F9E27 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scmse02.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp ([133.2.253.231]) by scintmta02.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp (secret/secret) with SMTP id r6S876gm024098; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:07:06 +0900 Received: from (unknown [133.2.206.134]) by scmse02.scbb.aoyama.ac.jp with smtp id 5f97_35e0_b1726df4_f75c_11e2_8897_001e6722eec2; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:07:05 +0900 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (unknown [133.2.210.1]) by itmail2.it.aoyama.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C45BF4E2; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:05:04 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <51F4D10A.8030105@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:06:34 +0900 From: =?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiBKLiBEw7xyc3Qi?= Organization: Aoyama Gakuin University User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Bray References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Julian Reschke , Murray Kucherawy , "appsdir@ietf.org" , Martin Thomson , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:07:59 -0000 I wouldn't mind if Tim could do it. My next week is already very packed,=20 and then I'm on vacation for quite a bit of time, sorry. Or Tim could send me his notes, and I'll forward them so it doesn't seem=20 unfair :-). Regards, Martin. On 2013/07/28 2:12, Tim Bray wrote: > As some of you will have noticed, I had unkind things to say about the > imei-urn drafts on the ietf@ list, the idea seems problematic to me. = So > I=E2=80=99ve actually read them already. And would volunteer to re-do,= focusing on > nits& consistency rather than the whole thing being a stupid idea. Onl= y > that might be seen as unfair. Up to you, Claudio. -T > > > On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Claudio Allocchio< > Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> wrote: > >> >> Here I am... >> >> we need to review the following drafts which are in LC now: >> >> draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-**as-instanceid-10 >> due date: August 16th 2013 >> Assigned to Martin Duerst. >> >> draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-**urn-16 >> due date: August 16th 2013 >> Assigned to Julian Reschke. >> >> draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-**location-06 >> due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some = more >> time) >> Assigned to Martin Thomson. >> >> draft-ietf-geopriv-res-gw-lis-**discovery-05 >> due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some = more >> time) >> Assigned to Murray S. Kucherawy. >> >> Please ACK if you can make the review ! >> >> see you all soon! >> >> Best! >> >> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> ------------------ >> Claudio Allocchio G A R R >> Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it >> Senior Technical Officer >> tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=3DClaudio; >> S=3DAllocchio; >> fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=3Dgarr; A=3Dgar= r; C=3Dit; >> >> PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/**keys.php3#ca >> ______________________________**_________________ >> appsdir mailing list >> appsdir@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/appsdir >> > From superuser@gmail.com Sun Jul 28 01:16:09 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E5C21F9E3C for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:16:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.137, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2zbavqLUWAjX for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x22e.google.com (mail-we0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F1C21F9E50 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id q54so3013780wes.5 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:16:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=cOU1hOIibK4M5BlThaCabRNY7uOJE5AlukXnaN2O+x0=; b=ei+LgvL+EY3iinQ7+3/p5SOVGLPPbHS6swlp0z4FdN1HrVNt1YVSDg9GpV8OTYi+zY f2dOO8YtpIMmiN7n1FXxXyD9hxhbOFdtsgTgPYb/TFP0yUyGd1FSoK1KbY6lqLO5nIQA nt5yVBY0Ep+WlvknvMDNpLLIKG10+ld3PtOoaGeM+j23kRSVX9YBVrcXb6Akn2hkQPxk IWf06JJsTgT/TlSIcrJ/vZI8lpocRbvdPy59tOM2y1bvkAm6tz7t0FEmVodhW926NEHu /NVFlVIpva1IlyG3JMQC8ZtTdQsDFb//JJqNixz6McTHgB+5iTKkUmW+muDdfDULaSPt YwLg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.187.209 with SMTP id fu17mr3693233wic.52.1374999365017; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.125.36 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:16:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:16:04 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: Claudio Allocchio Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c269acb7e74d04e28dfcc3 Cc: AppsDir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:16:09 -0000 --001a11c269acb7e74d04e28dfcc3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Claudio Allocchio < Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> wrote: > draft-ietf-geopriv-res-gw-lis-discovery-05 > due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some more > time) > Assigned to Murray S. Kucherawy. > > Please ACK if you can make the review ! > > > ack. -MSK --001a11c269acb7e74d04e28dfcc3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Claudio Allocchio <Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> wrote:
draft-ietf-geopriv-res-gw-lis-discovery-05
due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some more time)
Assigned to Murray S. Kucherawy.

Please ACK if you can make the review !



ack.

-MSK

--001a11c269acb7e74d04e28dfcc3-- From martin.thomson@gmail.com Sun Jul 28 01:40:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C89321F8C93 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:40:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G8NtBy4FDQFS for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x22e.google.com (mail-wg0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9037721F9D54 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id k13so3944067wgh.13 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:40:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Hbv76jUhjPkSgfCnLodvhw6VUrlpDWh+ieBIS7rXrdQ=; b=1HhaWTVTZG6TnySVNxf5/sByAckVnGmb/Gnh+EIPmSkA73P2bZPyk9Ty7NKTsysxAH aDeVV4Lb9Ao3piMDolLrhvVV4Zl4lu7sBBQ7uK6cMoEd6iBONr6ekImmV+Tsfuc8m7dT YqV0Agx9soyGzg7fV9vvxfa6fVy8IguSoXzIksFN5BE7uN7uqZZrdI63GCHwII9NNerV gbU3Fkm9MpEJ33tR2oCUcM3ivRZTYV7Xw5WowgXeVsPzAOl+rf0L7n7dJdrZD5I87Oiz RfJssCkxzmRP7oiCFiAw7OcQ25S9i3KhHbwlZiOrFW10HjTgCvMJGxomUpWSV6hU6ire FwbA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.83.163 with SMTP id r3mr3841071wiy.10.1375000835728; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.60.46 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:40:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:40:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: Martin Thomson To: Claudio Allocchio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Julian Reschke , =?UTF-8?Q?Martin_D=C3=BCrst?= , AppsDir@ietf.org, Murray Kucherawy Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:40:37 -0000 On 27 July 2013 07:01, Claudio Allocchio wrote: > draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-06 > due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some more > time) > Assigned to Martin Thomson. Please don't assign me my own draft :) From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Sun Jul 28 06:21:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A985E21F9CE3 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 06:21:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.569 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cLMNhQbIXkv9 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 06:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10FF21F9CAC for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 06:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:20:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3 To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?=22Martin_J=2E_D=FCrst=22?= In-Reply-To: <51F4D10A.8030105@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Message-ID: References: <51F4D10A.8030105@it.aoyama.ac.jp> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1620274906-1375017335=:1865" Content-ID: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1375017651; bh=+nZbCpzmE/AppUB06LpuAlwqMnKUX9JjpW+O8itHsXs=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=VX/3uTqVR/CMh5yAZPdxKbrj1r9pDgs/Uqvrl7V/tvNreaTt5TwL+77P6N86wR//g nOaPlLeA7vyzZCbS21PTb1QZZ9nH/wM5UJ27U90kUGJbA49UiKBOERpv9X5uwum0jO lDOClm6Ib5JZf0HhxdhFMgZ40payoMbExTYzz2mk= Cc: Julian Reschke , "appsdir@ietf.org" , Claudio Allocchio , Murray Kucherawy , Tim Bray , Martin Thomson Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 13:21:03 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1620274906-1375017335=:1865 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: Hello Martin and Tim, On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, "Martin J. DĂ¼rst" wrote: > I wouldn't mind if Tim could do it. My next week is already very packed, and > then I'm on vacation for quite a bit of time, sorry. > > Or Tim could send me his notes, and I'll forward them so it doesn't seem > unfair :-). > > Regards, Martin. > > On 2013/07/28 2:12, Tim Bray wrote: >> As some of you will have noticed, I had unkind things to say about the >> imei-urn drafts on the ietf@ list, the idea seems problematic to me. So >> I’ve actually read them already. And would volunteer to re-do, focusing on >> nits& consistency rather than the whole thing being a stupid idea. Only >> that might be seen as unfair. Up to you, Claudio. -T I think Martin's suggestion is a good one, also following SM's: >Your messages were fine. I personally think that you would do a very >good review. I don't know how the author will read the review if you do >it given that you have already stated a position. I usually avoid it if >there can be a perception that the review is unfair. Let's have Tim forwards his own full review notes to Martin, and Martin adds his owns, and "sign" the review, thus we avoid the problem of a biased reaction by the authors. Is this ok? In then mean time we also need somebody for draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 as Jullian cannot make it. Would it be a problem if Tim does this one "officially" ? best! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca --0-1620274906-1375017335=:1865-- From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Sun Jul 28 06:33:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E0321F8F4F for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 06:33:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.682 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.682 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.037, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hhAKpM4PVPzz for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 06:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C988C21F8EE6 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 06:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:33:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3 To: mnot@mnot.net, Martin Thomson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1375018398; bh=zhadU3TCo10hgq0Rfkk36liB2F46Q5NHmC0B62IlXvs=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=MRxHZWzB4R6l/T/qU8p6ktJD2lkUmFLXuJ2Xmnyg1akrvZNidIhDAUMwftXwN4eYt LSD+5FsECEql65ov5s85NWwq31gC7ITVMJhMtjCwqwsTWkRlrXlopeCN0ZHYMtsrXC QvET+JiN4bdBXEP+b/IagnitJUGiP3zwlr0rq/sU= Cc: Julian Reschke , =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Martin_D=FCrst?= , AppsDir@ietf.org, Murray Kucherawy , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 13:33:28 -0000 On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Martin Thomson wrote: > On 27 July 2013 07:01, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >> draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-06 >> due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some more >> time) >> Assigned to Martin Thomson. > > Please don't assign me my own draft :) yes... sorry! It was an authors' list misread! Mark, could you please do this review ? all the best ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Sun Jul 28 06:44:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5A621F9D35 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 06:44:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.689 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.689 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id deCOtZGVPPap for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 06:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A651D21F9D12 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 06:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:44:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3 To: Tobias Gondrom In-Reply-To: <51F4B894.9090807@gondrom.org> Message-ID: References: <51F40BFF.8000405@dcrocker.net> <51F4B894.9090807@gondrom.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1375019057; bh=3gd9+15ULVktljlKgAEveV4VJwvqZVYqkh5drcmjzKY=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=KH+dpXEDR30eMfR8/XIvy1aQ52k3k65pGgV0gjsY+nJkURI8WASP3IQiVTgbehv/u M3VecsohT3EycfMV/KI75Y6TZU1uHeL419SQPWFl9OIz0m2Asn7k584En7kYZNSNiC LCI2TzvQ42UG+26CV10QDxuFIWJnWLN9kSx0xUQI= Cc: presnick@qti.qualcomm.com, AppsDir@ietf.org, Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it, jari.arkko@piuha.net, dcrocker@bbiw.net, barryleiba@computer.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] IMPORTANT: tail-heavy process and early directorate reviews (fwd) X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 13:44:44 -0000 Hi all, On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Tobias Gondrom wrote: > On 27/07/13 23:44, Barry Leiba wrote: >>>> should allow us also more time for accomplishing reviews >>> Not based on what I just went through, with the sequence shown below. >>> >>> My review window started at 3 weeks and suddenly went down to 1. >> Yes, that one sucked, and we're trying (separately) to fix that. The >> problem with the situation you're pointing out is how the appsdir >> selection and due dates coincided with the IESG telechat schedule >> (lack of coordination, as you say), and the fact that the appsdir >> leaders thought that if a document in last call is not scheduled for a >> telechat, then it wouldn't be on a telechat for some while yet (in >> fact, the ADs will put a document on the very next telechat, if it >> looks like there are no significant last call comments, and that can >> happen with little warning). Working on that. exactly. A draft of course will not be on a telechat BEFORE the LC is over, but as it is now, it may go on the IESH desk immediately after the LC ends. And sometimes the LC does not last very long. This is one of the problems we are trying to fix. >>> This revised process needs to have predictable minimums for the reviewers. >>> 1 week is unlikely to qualify. Correct. As below, 3 weeks is a fair time, but in order to achieve that, review items shall be listed earlier: LC end date has proven not to be a working parameter. For the "current" (not early) review process, we can go for drafts in "LC requested", but we need to have review request arrive from WGs earlier! >> This is a different process, not a revised one. In this one, WG >> chairs can specifically ask for earlier reviews from directorates, >> when they think their documents are ready for that -- rather than >> waiting for IETF Last Call. For documents that the WGCs select, this >> can only help the scheduling, and documents following this path should >> never have sudden changes of schedule. > > I agree with Dave. > Maybe a small comment: > how about: review time >= 3 weeks. (and no shortening of review dates...) > (normally a good review takes me about an afternoon depending on > document length. Btw. co-reviews take more time due to coordination > round-trips. To schedule a review into one of the following 20 days is > relatively easy. But usually my schedule is arranged and already packed > for the coming 7-10 days. That means, I can slot things in after that > but to fit a review into an already densely planned schedule of only the > following 7 days is really stretching it....) This is not only "your" case, it is everybody's one indeed. > Be upfront with WG chairs about the minimum timeline to help manage > expectations and planning. It might also help with triggering reviews > early. And I guess we need to remind periodically WG chairs about this early review process,... or even invent a way to make it "mandatory" (maybe not officially... but let's say they shall answer a question like "did the draft had and early review?" when they ask for IETF LC... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From sm@elandsys.com Sun Jul 28 07:59:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A536421F9BF0 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:59:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mh43qRPZPOcF for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0464021F9AE2 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.145.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6SEvRFN025835 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:57:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1375023466; bh=It4V4HNTj9+Ig1KpxzRGZMxeZH33CdvDiTAN0f3b3ps=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=mit1jMaHcevx0unZQ4FG/7LrVwQYtlAyz23zBax9xhBwt68paXmF2UKrNKn9vZ4UF 9E3SOCQuA+IUNxUekxfHDz4AzY6494aesfO1ZpdzTu4BTdHbqalflZl+b79g2kBGNy BvpnG7OxYWRb66BHJE2xG9MKiAs8V72cqnwkg+RI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1375023466; i=@elandsys.com; bh=It4V4HNTj9+Ig1KpxzRGZMxeZH33CdvDiTAN0f3b3ps=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=ffsWM8SoYdVFAwiFHbYChzKVzy+AaJfAgpSQmUs1QL+8tYQ+wdPpBC1EsvKOxleW2 tyYeJM/a4HQMcJ1dtO0zCc4Gv0lsItvkScm9ip2VP3c1OLc9awYd9vUk2wGHrThuxE rlKHzLcycaK3LFNBPqUkirUDz1z3VoVMjajHLCaw= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130728072717.0bd92e68@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 07:55:49 -0700 To: Claudio Allocchio From: SM In-Reply-To: References: <51F4D10A.8030105@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Tobias Gondrom , Martin Thomson , =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_J=2E_D=FCrst=22?= , appsdir@ietf.org, Tim Bray Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:59:24 -0000 Hi Claudio, At 06:20 28-07-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >Let's have Tim forwards his own full review=20 >notes to Martin, and Martin adds his owns, and=20 >"sign" the review, thus we avoid the problem of=20 >a biased reaction by the authors. Is this ok? As Martin D=FCrst will be responsible for the review I don't see any= problem. >In then mean time we also need somebody for=20 >draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 as Jullian=20 >cannot make it. Would it be a problem if Tim does this one "officially" ? There are two drafts: (i) draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 (ii) draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-10 I'll suggest Martin for=20 draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 and Tim for=20 draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-10. I'll suggest=20 draft-petithuguenin-behave-turn-uris-05 for URI review. It's a short draft. Martin Thomson, would you like to review=20 draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-05 if Claudio=20 agrees? If so, could you talk to Tobias and see=20 when the draft will be ready for review? Best regards, -sm=20 From tbray@textuality.com Sun Jul 28 08:16:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7940521F99A9 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:16:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.789, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aozam-2+y0TN for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DC521F9C4E for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id hf12so1540662vcb.13 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:16:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=+9+iXgzR91055t6YN64dfAAdzx6qEfVqM24QhasuRFo=; b=QKV+EXf05KICxDJdnyq8jwUNBvDDYnlpesNVaEgyaN67PGrGn1gDGHJjg/mTWz9U1G h+pNFJiIgnPixb0M9Ko8SCiNB5R+Vakxar7A06nF51GNwzjMp7iUPkOa8y1n3/r2rf7t POiZVxNk8iL159GwsUSWSQ2s5qgztNWsm8rVNAhPxVn3Jae09t4fUx8wqnmkX0CH5yax QbLyQ6yIjGjcbx/ws4XXquGTN71p5TM+3+7fyq/4kQDY+1iN5MPmcHtqSz5IwZ/9V/W/ JCFGhMKytQZ5tsZfWINkgS171yIiy4GueHHZ8o0OGLiZcJhCxm28qf2IFIPzrlc1KsnC D0ew== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.91.75 with SMTP id l11mr7041218vcm.82.1375024612021; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.248.198 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:16:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [24.84.235.32] In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20130728072717.0bd92e68@elandnews.com> References: <51F4D10A.8030105@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <6.2.5.6.2.20130728072717.0bd92e68@elandnews.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:16:51 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Bray To: SM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3440888ea6c004e293dde1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkRMPSjaFQQXtksL3+slVtViJqRhivwH15YYHPZhe1iGsvGboqXW9fOTZEOjfp9x0DLDMYm Cc: Tobias Gondrom , =?UTF-8?Q?Martin_J=2E_D=C3=BCrst?= , "appsdir@ietf.org" , Martin Thomson , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:16:57 -0000 --047d7b3440888ea6c004e293dde1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think it would be good for the integrity of the process if one person did the review and another person's name was on it. I'll take care of urn-as-instanceid On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:55 AM, SM wrote: > Hi Claudio, > > At 06:20 28-07-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote: > >> Let's have Tim forwards his own full review notes to Martin, and Martin >> adds his owns, and "sign" the review, thus we avoid the problem of a bia= sed >> reaction by the authors. Is this ok? >> > > As Martin D=C3=BCrst will be responsible for the review I don't see any p= roblem. > > > In then mean time we also need somebody for draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-*= *urn-16 >> as Jullian cannot make it. Would it be a problem if Tim does this one >> "officially" ? >> > > There are two drafts: > > (i) draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-**urn-16 > > (ii) draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-**as-instanceid-10 > > I'll suggest Martin for draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-**urn-16 and Tim for > draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-**as-instanceid-10. > > I'll suggest draft-petithuguenin-behave-**turn-uris-05 for URI review. > It's a short draft. > > Martin Thomson, would you like to review draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-**opti= ons-05 > if Claudio agrees? If so, could you talk to Tobias and see when the draf= t > will be ready for review? > > Best regards, > -sm > ______________________________**_________________ > appsdir mailing list > appsdir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/appsdir > --047d7b3440888ea6c004e293dde1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't think it would be good for the integrity of th= e process if one person did the review and another person's name was on= it.=C2=A0 I'll take care of urn-as-instanceid


On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:55 AM, SM <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:
Hi Claudio,

At 06:20 28-07-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
Let's have Tim forwards his own full review notes to Martin, and Martin= adds his owns, and "sign" the review, thus we avoid the problem = of a biased reaction by the authors. Is this ok?

As Martin D=C3=BCrst will be responsible for the review I don't see any= problem.


In then mean time we also need somebody for draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-<= /u>urn-16 as Jullian cannot make it. Would it be a problem if Tim does this= one "officially" ?

There are two drafts:

=C2=A0 (i) draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16

=C2=A0 (ii) draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-10

I'll suggest Martin for draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 and Ti= m for draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-10.

I'll suggest draft-petithuguenin-behave-turn-uris-05 for URI rev= iew. =C2=A0It's a short draft.

Martin Thomson, would you like to review draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-o= ptions-05 if Claudio agrees? =C2=A0If so, could you talk to Tobias and see = when the draft will be ready for review?

Best regards,
-sm
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--047d7b3440888ea6c004e293dde1-- From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Sun Jul 28 08:20:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C970E21F9B58 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:20:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.694 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.694 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wrwryM8h6AQ2 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4656121F9C88 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:20:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3 To: SM In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20130728072717.0bd92e68@elandnews.com> Message-ID: References: <51F4D10A.8030105@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <6.2.5.6.2.20130728072717.0bd92e68@elandnews.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1230764603-1375024812=:1865" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1375024813; bh=JAoZRUuX+DswQCMjAV0kwitXxoxB5ODPjQ8zCQaSGTk=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=OXYkeCDWF4jOt6SPZ69q7DIhhzuZRBz7NMitTM+xwVzHOe3NE3I/nNAPa7+7VjLA8 oajgLYT9L9rVhGaNJM/M7hDOWhFzv07yfk9ZVr9c+3E9zA43DSY+PtJ6e/ksd7iSkk gz5ZFqXkm+1NicyFFp9/QqylBRmYHuAxPsSez4T4= Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, Claudio Allocchio , Tobias Gondrom , Tim Bray , =?ISO-8859-15?Q?=22Martin_J=2E_D=FCrst=22?= , Martin Thomson Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:20:59 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1230764603-1375024812=:1865 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, SM wrote: > Hi Claudio, > At 06:20 28-07-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >> Let's have Tim forwards his own full review notes to Martin, and Martin >> adds his owns, and "sign" the review, thus we avoid the problem of a biased >> reaction by the authors. Is this ok? > > As Martin Dürst will be responsible for the review I don't see any problem. esactly... >> In then mean time we also need somebody for >> draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 as Jullian cannot make it. Would it be a >> problem if Tim does this one "officially" ? > > There are two drafts: > > (i) draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 > > (ii) draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-10 > > I'll suggest Martin for draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 and Tim for > draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-10. I just picked up the one in LC, but nothing wrong to review the second one, too. It depends on Martin's and Tim's available time. > I'll suggest draft-petithuguenin-behave-turn-uris-05 for URI review. It's a > short draft Yes it's a short one. Could you do that one SM? > > Martin Thomson, would you like to review draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-05 > if Claudio agrees? If so, could you talk to Tobias and see when the draft > will be ready for review? I've no objection to this. > > Best regards, > -sm > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca --0-1230764603-1375024812=:1865-- From sm@elandsys.com Sun Jul 28 08:27:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E5021F9C88 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:27:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iF5R0uUJrD7M for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BD021F9C6C for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.145.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6SFQ0n5003124 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:26:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1375025182; bh=iePU2PjImHjerTTWd1fbJdbovhL1HZw1/ls58FCvFUQ=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=wlsoMQdovsEB2kYtSW3Q2aC4mGFvI7WJIjK5c83rm4KBa0o+I3RF/Iop0qoNK8IG2 NcmimajN9WBCawDh/20SrKUZq/WbmdTi2SM4UAqCWSCHSlbxYjq/gTlYXPSVLLY1ke fZ9QqVb0mp6SHtgQG3jw8BUocSbbyOZh2JyTwxvU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1375025182; i=@elandsys.com; bh=iePU2PjImHjerTTWd1fbJdbovhL1HZw1/ls58FCvFUQ=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=xiQn/qvtQ6jeLYYL0bsm8DRuX1yQ7sRhLIEA0lEMWg/i5qG8ySTt+GqdqzMw52GVn bSDwgBVyk7IaLZCn+yVEMIkHDWhYITE+ajHIkrIrt+k24ltJk00a7KjC5bkRy2j6TJ 4YAl0P4KsBA/L/VnwQJkUswBzMEThVu2i6GZsTB4= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130728081848.0d8bc300@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:25:41 -0700 To: Tim Bray From: SM In-Reply-To: References: <51F4D10A.8030105@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <6.2.5.6.2.20130728072717.0bd92e68@elandnews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_J=2E_D=FCrst=22?= , appsdir@ietf.org, Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:27:46 -0000 Hi Tim, At 08:16 28-07-2013, Tim Bray wrote: >I don't think it would be good for the integrity of the process if >one person did the review and another person's name was on it. I'll >take care of urn-as-instanceid Agreed. Best regards, -sm From sm@elandsys.com Sun Jul 28 08:27:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B6621F9C77 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:27:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hRQg8jm3hLsz for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0B821F8618 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.145.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6SFQ0n3003124 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:26:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1375025176; bh=oICFdttGxZQhIWKqWqr1W1Sw17n4HfKqFsCLgy+2BCE=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=40Vi99+WlpZRES3vPJpNEZkW6CVwgSD8Ft0xQiQ0uGMVYSShzUi+kw6w88d+ImcMu ymlNMrXd1t7BsDU0/WBUbfP1RP7PNHWcvnbcT0mLYhAWWRi0tOLF8LRdUPUgI3KnER j0fmRNk0sBPMFJCccj0QjGU63OgH70Eq75mtBTXA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1375025176; i=@elandsys.com; bh=oICFdttGxZQhIWKqWqr1W1Sw17n4HfKqFsCLgy+2BCE=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=o5OcZQITiks/wQWjbPWp/TDODkES8+hCotRVhnFnZWXUBwjUyvbfLpWl5b5gDmYiJ oKJmVTSg6S0Snb5FRxdFe9akqLEymOCf1be/6nyuGAjhMwtcJND4S50HmmrsleZkfL qiSzYF3GTlbOkxp8JOsiv9VNhnEAGZr1gFlWUwWU= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130728075729.0bc8c930@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:18:25 -0700 To: dcrocker@bbiw.net, Claudio Allocchio , Tobias Gondrom From: SM In-Reply-To: <51F40BFF.8000405@dcrocker.net> References: <51F40BFF.8000405@dcrocker.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Pete Resnick , appsdir@ietf.org, Jari Arkko , Barry Leiba Subject: Re: [appsdir] IMPORTANT: tail-heavy process and early directorate reviews (fwd) X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:27:47 -0000 At 11:05 27-07-2013, Dave Crocker wrote: >This revised process needs to have predictable minimums for the >reviewers. 1 week is unlikely to qualify. > >To be clear, the problem is a lack of coordination between the IESG >scheduling and the independent reviews. Yes. At 23:22 27-07-2013, Tobias Gondrom wrote: >Be upfront with WG chairs about the minimum timeline to help manage >expectations and planning. It might also help with triggering reviews >early. It would help if WG chairs triggered reviews early. At 06:44 28-07-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >And I guess we need to remind periodically WG chairs about this >early review process,... or even invent a way to make it "mandatory" >(maybe not officially... but let's say they shall answer a question >like "did the draft had and early review?" when they ask for IETF LC... There is already a question in the write-up about whether, for example, a URI review is needed? The answer is usually no. APPSDIR operates in a semi-formal capacity, i.e. the reviews are not more special than other Last Call comments. If the reviews are mandatory, even informally, some WG Chairs might line up at the microphone and ask questions. 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(130.129.70.30) by lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 28 Jul 2013 17:28:05 +0200 Message-ID: <51F53884.8040605@gondrom.org> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:28:04 +0200 From: Tobias Gondrom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it References: <51F4D10A.8030105@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <6.2.5.6.2.20130728072717.0bd92e68@elandnews.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060102040301080708080302" Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, ynir@checkpoint.com, sm+ietf@elandsys.com, tbray@textuality.com, duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp, martin.thomson@gmail.com Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:28:11 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060102040301080708080302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 28/07/13 17:20, Claudio Allocchio wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, SM wrote: > >> Hi Claudio, >> At 06:20 28-07-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >>> Let's have Tim forwards his own full review notes to Martin, and >>> Martin adds his owns, and "sign" the review, thus we avoid the >>> problem of a biased reaction by the authors. Is this ok? >> >> As Martin Dürst will be responsible for the review I don't see any >> problem. > > esactly... > >>> In then mean time we also need somebody for >>> draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 as Jullian cannot make it. Would >>> it be a problem if Tim does this one "officially" ? >> >> There are two drafts: >> >> (i) draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 >> >> (ii) draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-10 >> >> I'll suggest Martin for draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 and Tim for >> draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-10. > > I just picked up the one in LC, but nothing wrong to review the second > one, too. It depends on Martin's and Tim's available time. > >> I'll suggest draft-petithuguenin-behave-turn-uris-05 for URI review. >> It's a short draft > > Yes it's a short one. Could you do that one SM? > >> >> Martin Thomson, would you like to review >> draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-05 if Claudio agrees? If so, could >> you talk to Tobias and see when the draft will be ready for review? > > I've no objection to this. regarding draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-05: This was relatively uncontroversial. Pre-IETF-LC, I received some feedback on the text from the AD to correct some editorial bits and to improve readability. The revised version is ready, just waiting for the submission window to open again tonight at midnight local time in Berlin. Then the draft will start into IETF LC and should be ready for review. Best regards, Tobias > >> >> Best regards, >> -sm > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Claudio Allocchio G A R R > Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it > Senior Technical Officer > tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; > S=Allocchio; > fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; > C=it; > > PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca > > > _______________________________________________ > appsdir mailing list > appsdir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir --------------060102040301080708080302 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 28/07/13 17:20, Claudio Allocchio wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, SM wrote:

Hi Claudio,
At 06:20 28-07-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
Let's have Tim forwards his own full review notes to Martin, and Martin adds his owns, and "sign" the review, thus we avoid the problem of a biased reaction by the authors. Is this ok?

As Martin Dürst will be responsible for the review I don't see any problem.

esactly...

In then mean time we also need somebody for draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 as Jullian cannot make it. Would it be a problem if Tim does this one "officially" ?

There are two drafts:

 (i) draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16

 (ii) draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-10

I'll suggest Martin for draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 and Tim for draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-10.

I just picked up the one in LC, but nothing wrong to review the second one, too. It depends on Martin's and Tim's available time.

I'll suggest draft-petithuguenin-behave-turn-uris-05 for URI review.  It's a short draft

Yes it's a short one. Could you do that one SM?


Martin Thomson, would you like to review draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-05 if Claudio agrees?  If so, could you talk to Tobias and see when the draft will be ready for review?

I've no objection to this.

regarding draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-05: This was relatively uncontroversial. Pre-IETF-LC, I received some feedback on the text from the AD to correct some editorial bits and to improve readability. The revised version is ready, just waiting for the submission window to open again tonight at midnight local time in Berlin. Then the draft will start into IETF LC and should be ready for review.

Best regards, Tobias





Best regards,
-sm

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--------------060102040301080708080302-- From sm@elandsys.com Sun Jul 28 08:38:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCF521F9298 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:38:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Py0ea2b1ofMK for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CFC21F8D10 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.145.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6SFaTMK021183 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:36:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1375025804; bh=bmE3kX84/rdFByB3EunKKfQd1PeR5bg6QYOJy1WxlSM=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=xMkuXkA1fc0xoA5Qgbpdfs4muEnAip78OXWgG4uymNycp7eAWcanoQ5EHgZyA9gV3 yf7CfAcyL/LnyfMykHY0RcgiASyc31eulCNb7ixlmK5JYkY7urY+NNzs+g+w2kef0r DDTpm507PuKAziYltamPZmEMl3TueIVXit9k2qms= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1375025804; i=@elandsys.com; bh=bmE3kX84/rdFByB3EunKKfQd1PeR5bg6QYOJy1WxlSM=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=Stn7jA10II+mWGPeoZIVKcWL0g/SW8E97XwDqKcFhT2qDdufuAdrk6AAJXQN0x4sF xNO8cgypyOhhSJHqCKs58gAdn6J5TCAtGInHj/nfWpVlWfAl0rz6Llfuya9E/am8sm 777wQNvwCtuY52nX4ezTipMDRNzqe/8PHr3E5Oeo= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130728082557.0d8bc590@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:34:39 -0700 To: Claudio Allocchio , =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_J=2E_D=FCrst=22?= From: SM In-Reply-To: References: <51F4D10A.8030105@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <6.2.5.6.2.20130728072717.0bd92e68@elandnews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, Tim Bray , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:38:16 -0000 At 08:20 28-07-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >> (i) draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 Let's fix this quickly. Martin, could you take the assignment? The Last Call ends on August 16. I cannot perform the review as I have already commented during the Last Call. >I just picked up the one in LC, but nothing wrong to review the >second one, too. It depends on Martin's and Tim's available time. The two drafts are interlinked. :-) >>I'll suggest draft-petithuguenin-behave-turn-uris-05 for URI >>review. It's a short draft > >Yes it's a short one. Could you do that one SM? I'll do it. Best regards, -sm From jari.arkko@piuha.net Sun Jul 28 15:13:19 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7503C21F8D73 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:13:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z9XIo-Xl7dnc for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [193.234.218.130]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D2021F8793 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690992CC5D; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 01:13:12 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sNgcVK4PcBhO; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 01:13:11 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BD42CC48; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 01:13:11 +0300 (EEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Jari Arkko X-Priority: 4 (Low) In-Reply-To: <51F4B894.9090807@gondrom.org> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:13:11 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3974BC44-EF12-43E3-9B07-A41A702A8FB9@piuha.net> References: <51F40BFF.8000405@dcrocker.net> <51F4B894.9090807@gondrom.org> To: Tobias Gondrom X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: presnick@qti.qualcomm.com, AppsDir@ietf.org, dcrocker@bbiw.net, barryleiba@computer.org, Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Subject: Re: [appsdir] IMPORTANT: tail-heavy process and early directorate reviews (fwd) X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:13:19 -0000 > Be upfront with WG chairs about the minimum timeline to help manage > expectations and planning. It might also help with triggering reviews > early. Good points. Thanks. Jari From martin.thomson@gmail.com Sun Jul 28 22:03:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E7421F9ED6 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:03:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2P7EI7QliICN for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x229.google.com (mail-wi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D615721F967F for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id f14so378379wiw.4 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:03:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=p62d8leWBGdLw0K9bi4X+Ee5dhoknKt8iWSI+2Slsvk=; b=t/+LOc4ljfDlmTdyvqpvR8ksGOyzfC+WP1NrJC5g8NqL6LqRNZhVNS0kzuCR3OvR52 BtDxZBH7KNOMSQhSNTIxZH9WrOKxoAqALrdiqC2OfXpx1JCuvzk2zjqOOw8c1qX5pH27 p8sNClPoFa/fM+B0Xd9meJrgMe7XbGzdTVQdfjnibcrr1O0b2nWB9FNtKLqpDs0osNan 5iP+dwUAIbQGvzIoV/8I60TXfa7p/pCEEWUuuxy8XhCCiEj0EvR8+36PaQw7i3QbJfpU qohy6W/xOg4aSvXdOOnSbZ0blc+mNhQLRuLSLcKvymeMh6rhxEjR3bOwl1HoxTPHN4YO J9jw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.110.6 with SMTP id hw6mr42335386wjb.3.1375074238014; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.60.46 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:03:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51F4D10A.8030105@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <6.2.5.6.2.20130728072717.0bd92e68@elandnews.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:03:57 -0700 Message-ID: From: Martin Thomson To: Claudio Allocchio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Tobias Gondrom , =?UTF-8?Q?Martin_J=2E_D=C3=BCrst?= , appsdir@ietf.org, Tim Bray , SM Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:03:59 -0000 On 28 July 2013 08:20, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >> Martin Thomson, would you like to review >> draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-05 if Claudio agrees? If so, could you >> talk to Tobias and see when the draft will be ready for review? > > I've no objection to this. I can do x-frame-options. I'll see if I can find Tobias. From tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org Sun Jul 28 23:06:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6D621F9FE7 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:06:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -97.266 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-97.266 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.904, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tb-zXkTdcKfu for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de (lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de [176.28.13.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBC121F9FDA for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:06:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=gondrom.org; b=kLexqWueppI2d13ameovoxEYtGdD/ZQXKZaRXrso9i+lZxesnbaIjMcH2a9H6RR+er2pVFeFPZCqByrTnzzrBcJfgJp+55M3IP/heFGW7KsErvelfV/sDiDwv5C7p8oE; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; Received: (qmail 30149 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2013 08:06:08 +0200 Received: from dhcp-461e.meeting.ietf.org (HELO ?130.129.70.30?) (130.129.70.30) by lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 29 Jul 2013 08:06:08 +0200 Message-ID: <51F60650.2080007@gondrom.org> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:06:08 +0200 From: Tobias Gondrom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: martin.thomson@gmail.com References: <51F4D10A.8030105@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <6.2.5.6.2.20130728072717.0bd92e68@elandnews.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp, appsdir@ietf.org, tbray@textuality.com, Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it, sm+ietf@elandsys.com Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:06:33 -0000 Hi Martin, ok. Just submitted the last revision (as the submission window just reopened). It basically contains the feedback/editorial fixes of the AD (Barry), who is now putting it on IETF LC. So please review this one: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-06.txt Best regards, Tobias Ps.: @Martin: I will chair the websec session today at 15:10. drop me an email if and when you like to meet for a chat. On 29/07/13 07:03, Martin Thomson wrote: > On 28 July 2013 08:20, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >>> Martin Thomson, would you like to review >>> draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-05 if Claudio agrees? If so, could you >>> talk to Tobias and see when the draft will be ready for review? >> I've no objection to this. > I can do x-frame-options. I'll see if I can find Tobias. > _______________________________________________ > appsdir mailing list > appsdir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir From tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org Mon Jul 29 02:02:12 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EAE11E80C5 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 02:02:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -96.885 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.885 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.523, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B1Oul8h7M3tb for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 02:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de (lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de [176.28.13.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFC921F9ED6 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 02:02:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=gondrom.org; b=XCWAXfS7vMtRBWw/FyBYQZTxgEqIomR0xRVypvMKJP3yofTQ08sohxZ2FIxk48G10CI9GIaufR7x3yzzwD0UiNOzgmde/xBJK0J/VOEmXXDlkWMQvjGq0FW2Vr0AUPD7; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:X-Priority:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; Received: (qmail 3099 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2013 11:02:05 +0200 Received: from dhcp-1632.meeting.ietf.org (HELO ?130.129.22.50?) (130.129.22.50) by lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 29 Jul 2013 11:02:04 +0200 Message-ID: <51F62F86.8080305@gondrom.org> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:01:58 +0200 From: Tobias Gondrom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: martin.thomson@gmail.com X-Priority: 4 (Low) References: <51F4D10A.8030105@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <6.2.5.6.2.20130728072717.0bd92e68@elandnews.com> <51F60650.2080007@gondrom.org> In-Reply-To: <51F60650.2080007@gondrom.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp, appsdir@ietf.org, tbray@textuality.com, Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it, sm+ietf@elandsys.com Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:02:13 -0000 Hi Martin, sorry, I missed another typo and a reference issue, so here is version 07 to fix it. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-07.txt (no big change, so in case you already started reading, no worries, the diff is minimal.) Best regards, Tobias On 29/07/13 08:06, Tobias Gondrom wrote: > Hi Martin, > > ok. Just submitted the last revision (as the submission window just > reopened). > It basically contains the feedback/editorial fixes of the AD (Barry), > who is now putting it on IETF LC. > So please review this one: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-06.txt > Best regards, Tobias > > > Ps.: @Martin: I will chair the websec session today at 15:10. drop me an > email if and when you like to meet for a chat. > > > > > On 29/07/13 07:03, Martin Thomson wrote: >> On 28 July 2013 08:20, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >>>> Martin Thomson, would you like to review >>>> draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-05 if Claudio agrees? If so, could you >>>> talk to Tobias and see when the draft will be ready for review? >>> I've no objection to this. >> I can do x-frame-options. I'll see if I can find Tobias. >> _______________________________________________ >> appsdir mailing list >> appsdir@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir > _______________________________________________ > appsdir mailing list > appsdir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir From mnot@mnot.net Mon Jul 29 05:06:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D863521F9CC8 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:06:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yw5EPL9f-HTg for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1965421F9A2E for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-53cf.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [130.129.83.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A084850A89; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:06:06 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Claudio Allocchio X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: Julian Reschke , Murray Kucherawy , =?windows-1252?Q?Martin_D=FCrst?= , AppsDir@ietf.org, Martin Thomson Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:06:29 -0000 I don't really know much about the problem space here=85 HTTP-related = stuff is usually what I do. Happy to have a stab at it, but it might take a little while (I'm on the = road) and the results may be underwhelming. Cheers, On Jul 28, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Claudio Allocchio = wrote: >=20 > On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Martin Thomson wrote: >=20 >> On 27 July 2013 07:01, Claudio Allocchio = wrote: >>> draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-06 >>> due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow = some more >>> time) >>> Assigned to Martin Thomson. >>=20 >> Please don't assign me my own draft :) >=20 > yes... sorry! It was an authors' list misread! >=20 > Mark, could you please do this review ? >=20 > all the best ! >=20 > = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- > Claudio Allocchio G A R R = Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it > Senior Technical Officer > tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=3DClaudio; = S=3DAllocchio; > fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=3Dgarr; A=3Dgarr;= C=3Dit; >=20 > PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Mon Jul 29 06:47:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230E921F9F2B for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:47:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yp39CsrqdzE9 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D644521F9ED2 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:46:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.lan To: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-653238253-1375105605=:2604" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1375105605; bh=GJUVmklwv3GdbM7xfbxfa1FJw+ENRMe378cPEMwbmbg=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=NZeB3t30rdTzrbxuZy7PDW2gZDug7sZjeULmSGfhUon+5/WfPAfD8/SQoWN0ZyhND vh/rLlMjppecPqF0xqVL0CG9kBgly0gKaJC+HL5acTjbSR5fQ+4LxvSaWRwQ9XbeuX VjYge1oj5X7vRQvNBqYJm88mzMFiI0Ykz/daMO5Q= Cc: Julian Reschke , AppsDir@ietf.org, Claudio Allocchio , Murray Kucherawy , =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Martin_D=FCrst?= , Martin Thomson Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:47:00 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-653238253-1375105605=:2604 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Mark Nottingham wrote: > I don't really know much about the problem space here… HTTP-related > stuff is usually what I do. > > Happy to have a stab at it, but it might take a little while (I'm on the > road) and the results may be underwhelming. yes, I know... but "our" geolocation experts are all involved in the draft, thus we need an indipended look at it. I also read it, and it is not such a complex specification, thus if you do that (by Aug 15th) it will be ok. > > Cheers, > > > On Jul 28, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote: > >> >> On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Martin Thomson wrote: >> >>> On 27 July 2013 07:01, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >>>> draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-06 >>>> due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some more >>>> time) >>>> Assigned to Martin Thomson. >>> >>> Please don't assign me my own draft :) >> >> yes... sorry! It was an authors' list misread! >> >> Mark, could you please do this review ? >> >> all the best ! >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it >> Senior Technical Officer >> tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; >> fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; >> >> PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca > > -- > Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca --0-653238253-1375105605=:2604-- From mnot@mnot.net Mon Jul 29 06:48:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A98821F9F5F for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:48:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ok9neNmRKEon for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D3C11E80A2 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-53cf.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [130.129.83.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0B7750A86; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:47:50 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Claudio Allocchio X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: Julian Reschke , Murray Kucherawy , =?windows-1252?Q?Martin_D=FCrst?= , AppsDir@ietf.org, Martin Thomson Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:48:10 -0000 I'm on the road until the 10th, and then in jet lag hell. Can I have one = more week? Thanks, On Jul 29, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Claudio Allocchio = wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Mark Nottingham wrote: >=20 >> I don't really know much about the problem space here=85 HTTP-related = stuff is usually what I do. >>=20 >> Happy to have a stab at it, but it might take a little while (I'm on = the road) and the results may be underwhelming. >=20 > yes, I know... but "our" geolocation experts are all involved in the = draft, thus we need an indipended look at it. I also read it, and it is = not such a complex specification, thus if you do that (by Aug 15th) it = will be ok. >=20 >=20 > > > Cheers, >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jul 28, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Claudio Allocchio = wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Martin Thomson wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On 27 July 2013 07:01, Claudio Allocchio = wrote: >>>>> draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-06 >>>>> due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow = some more >>>>> time) >>>>> Assigned to Martin Thomson. >>>>=20 >>>> Please don't assign me my own draft :) >>>=20 >>> yes... sorry! It was an authors' list misread! >>>=20 >>> Mark, could you please do this review ? >>>=20 >>> all the best ! >>>=20 >>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- >>> Claudio Allocchio G A R R = Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it >>> Senior Technical Officer >>> tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=3DClaudio; = S=3DAllocchio; >>> fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=3Dgarr; = A=3Dgarr; C=3Dit; >>>=20 >>> PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca >>=20 >> -- >> Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- > Claudio Allocchio G A R R = Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it > Senior Technical Officer > tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=3DClaudio; = S=3DAllocchio; > fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=3Dgarr; A=3Dgarr;= C=3Dit; >=20 > PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Mon Jul 29 06:55:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2084311E80D7 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:55:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.019, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wceBXB3RAGRU for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2E721F9E27 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:53:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.lan To: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1432013752-1375106023=:2604" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1375106034; bh=2G4FriHlEFlvUU9K6dJCQS1k1W2sIAAhfuYgZvIQybM=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=Rr40kUZDqsLkbjAWHRmzEpLCNaQXIigcK8doMeuHVAL3NC9jECvFCFnsPBIr35qyc 8j78JnnDh3yioCIiBhpSCbFitmoW0rPK7U/JkF2LjSHXnOnT63ZVxj2DGzdffxmRzO kNUH5vLolow30ujPBEaRoPQKnhaXrS6/m+YxUOUg= Cc: Julian Reschke , AppsDir@ietf.org, Claudio Allocchio , Murray Kucherawy , =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Martin_D=FCrst?= , Martin Thomson Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:55:32 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1432013752-1375106023=:2604 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Mark Nottingham wrote: > I'm on the road until the 10th, and then in jet lag hell. Can I have one > more week? the LC already ends 2 weeks earlier (we are in one of the late arrival cases we ar trying to avoid happening)... and it may go on IESG desk around August 18th... (I'm also on vacation with not so good connectivity) Unless there is someone else available (volunteers?) we should really have it by Aug 15th in order to be useful to the comments process. > > Thanks, > > > On Jul 29, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote: > >> >> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Mark Nottingham wrote: >> >>> I don't really know much about the problem space here… HTTP-related stuff is usually what I do. >>> >>> Happy to have a stab at it, but it might take a little while (I'm on the road) and the results may be underwhelming. >> >> yes, I know... but "our" geolocation experts are all involved in the draft, thus we need an indipended look at it. I also read it, and it is not such a complex specification, thus if you do that (by Aug 15th) it will be ok. >> >> >>>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> On Jul 28, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Martin Thomson wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 27 July 2013 07:01, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >>>>>> draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-06 >>>>>> due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some more >>>>>> time) >>>>>> Assigned to Martin Thomson. >>>>> >>>>> Please don't assign me my own draft :) >>>> >>>> yes... sorry! It was an authors' list misread! >>>> >>>> Mark, could you please do this review ? >>>> >>>> all the best ! >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it >>>> Senior Technical Officer >>>> tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; >>>> fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; >>>> >>>> PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it >> Senior Technical Officer >> tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; >> fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; >> >> PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca > > -- > Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca --0-1432013752-1375106023=:2604-- From alexey.melnikov@isode.com Mon Jul 29 07:07:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F77011E80E4 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:07:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.703 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.703 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bwMUEazSCPni for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waldorf.isode.com (cl-125.lon-03.gb.sixxs.net [IPv6:2a00:14f0:e000:7c::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B50521F997D for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:06:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1375106804; d=isode.com; s=selector; i=@isode.com; bh=lCd5nCjSMqsRuxRXuKqjS0hq7/rhAWY3ugFmh3J9RvU=; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description; b=qgyxR0RXjdmK+zifeM9dvCGbRK45S7hf2OMmhbQgvz7TMDrRG7DpjPCrooYv0PgFaZDGyt w3SY2gxoUAvDs2aiVb5IkNR8xl+9e6+Q9Q7qOrCfZyYoLJR15//PnGgqJFCatCR14gqLkm omHk7cwpZ+T4wIGvbY3/mj+UCzJ87Rw=; Received: from [130.129.18.89] (dhcp-1259.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.18.89]) by waldorf.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPA id ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:06:44 +0100 Message-ID: <51F676F4.7070203@isode.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:06:44 +0100 From: Alexey Melnikov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: Claudio Allocchio References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Mark Nottingham , AppsDir@ietf.org, Martin Thomson Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:07:17 -0000 On 29/07/2013 14:53, Claudio Allocchio wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Mark Nottingham wrote: > >> I'm on the road until the 10th, and then in jet lag hell. Can I have=20 >> one more week? > > the LC already ends 2 weeks earlier (we are in one of the late arrival=20 > cases we ar trying to avoid happening)... and it may go on IESG desk=20 > around August 18th... (I'm also on vacation with not so good=20 > connectivity) > > Unless there is someone else available (volunteers?) we should really=20 > have it by Aug 15th in order to be useful to the comments process. I might owe Martin and Mark some favours, so I am happy to review the=20 document :-). >> Thanks, >> >> >> On Jul 29, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Claudio Allocchio=20 >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Mark Nottingham wrote: >>> >>>> I don't really know much about the problem space here=85 HTTP-related= =20 >>>> stuff is usually what I do. >>>> >>>> Happy to have a stab at it, but it might take a little while (I'm=20 >>>> on the road) and the results may be underwhelming. >>> >>> yes, I know... but "our" geolocation experts are all involved in the=20 >>> draft, thus we need an indipended look at it. I also read it, and it=20 >>> is not such a complex specification, thus if you do that (by Aug=20 >>> 15th) it will be ok. >>> >>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 28, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Claudio Allocchio=20 >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Martin Thomson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 27 July 2013 07:01, Claudio Allocchio=20 >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-06 >>>>>>> due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow=20 >>>>>>> some more >>>>>>> time) >>>>>>> Assigned to Martin Thomson. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please don't assign me my own draft :) >>>>> >>>>> yes... sorry! It was an authors' list misread! >>>>> >>>>> Mark, could you please do this review ? >>>>> >>>>> all the best ! >>>>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= --------=20 >>>>> >>>>> Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it >>>>> Senior Technical Officer >>>>> tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=3DClaudio; S=3DAllocchio; >>>>> fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=3Dgarr; A=3Dgarr; C=3Dit; >>>>> >>>>> PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca >>>> >>>> --=20 >>>> Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------=20 >>> >>> Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it >>> Senior Technical Officer >>> tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=3DClaudio; S=3DAllocchio; >>> fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=3Dgarr; A=3Dgarr; C=3Dit; >>> >>> PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca >> >> --=20 >> Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ >> >> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----=20 > > Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it > Senior Technical Officer > tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=3DClaudio; S=3DAllocchio; > fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=3Dgarr; A=3Dgarr; C=3Dit; > > PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Mon Jul 29 07:14:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617D421F9FD8 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:14:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.017, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u0CiKxjN4P+r for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C0D21F9E28 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:13:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.lan To: Tim Bray In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <51F4D10A.8030105@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <6.2.5.6.2.20130728072717.0bd92e68@elandnews.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1375107246; bh=LSFr1bw3HX4M0ONj9WaQCRbOZxm0tJQ7wOxObXnfcCo=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=MXWCMKHQN5A8onW/F714wSONSR2dIxpZrk9z8aDkaZCAsTL1QReCHckQj7zqEoPLA j652LBnykNo4U9mhsOR1og0qIjxWQfQjUiMQKPQ2TxAFuSwRkogoOtavsYKXwMxcFl E+67Vx8VOOwtaLaXyAGG3zFtH6kE0k7anwbeMLOM= Cc: "appsdir@ietf.org" , SM , Claudio Allocchio , Tobias Gondrom , Mark Nottingham , =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Martin_J=2E_D=FCrst?= , Martin Thomson Subject: [appsdir] update - new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:14:33 -0000 Hi all, let's see if http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/tracker now tracks correctly the agred assignements :-) (please check!) I still do not have confirm from Mark because he may not have enough time (and it's another "late" review case, thus it was really a short notice). Jari's message to all WG chairs and IETF has arrived, thus hopefully we can start avoinding this late arrival problem better. Thanks for your understanding meanwhile ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Mon Jul 29 07:16:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9AD21F9E45 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:16:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.704 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.704 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6aT9nW3VAV7N for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5C921F99AB for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:16:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.lan To: Alexey Melnikov In-Reply-To: <51F676F4.7070203@isode.com> Message-ID: References: <51F676F4.7070203@isode.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1375107371; bh=+s/eszXkYbyoRHUE5kmeed6w7iWP5RK7Y20/7r9b1o4=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=OpCXF/qTAiTsD63lTa4yPwkAUY1eOkFD2fU3i92TtcBwojjqGHyFKKPOXs1hv1zti j/jXyKWaTG84uboAWFt/3s1tdL4PBOPf/1NyoatpdZMUpJaK5/ApWj5lbCiuFA4uUj ab897VpOV5HOT+rx8h8kN2FkJ6NmxFjBIscmpwpQ= Cc: Mark Nottingham , AppsDir@ietf.org, Martin Thomson , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:16:22 -0000 > I might owe Martin and Mark some favours, so I am happy to review the > document :-). ok Alexey! thanks indeed! > draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-06 due date: August 15th > 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some more time) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From mnot@mnot.net Mon Jul 29 07:27:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFFD21F9C7E for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:27:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.600, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zRjw-mZjOXv8 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF2621E8050 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-53cf.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [130.129.83.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A41050A88; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:27:03 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:27:04 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <999583E7-6E11-4DA3-AD63-8980EFBA415E@mnot.net> References: <51F676F4.7070203@isode.com> To: Claudio Allocchio X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: Alexey Melnikov , AppsDir@ietf.org, Martin Thomson Subject: Re: [appsdir] new drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:27:20 -0000 Thanks very much! On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Claudio Allocchio = wrote: >=20 >> I might owe Martin and Mark some favours, so I am happy to review the = document :-). >=20 > ok Alexey! >=20 > thanks indeed! >=20 >> draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-06 due date: August 15th 2013 = (LC ends before, but this is to allow some more time) >=20 > = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- > Claudio Allocchio G A R R = Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it > Senior Technical Officer > tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=3DClaudio; = S=3DAllocchio; > fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=3Dgarr; A=3Dgarr;= C=3Dit; >=20 > PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ From stpeter@stpeter.im Wed Jul 31 06:20:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C5321F8947 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:20:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.459 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.459 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.140, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tg0zEszgbUde for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EBD21F9CD9 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from che-vpn-cluster-2-456.cisco.com (unknown [198.135.0.233]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9579340046; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:23:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <51F90F31.3090905@stpeter.im> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:20:49 +0200 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: appsdir@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [appsdir] drinks I-Ds X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:20:58 -0000 A chair of the DRINKS WG pinged me directly long ago about reviewing draft-ietf-drinks-spp-framework and draft-ietf-drinks-spp-protocol-over-soap. He just told me that those documents are ready for IETF last call, and I told him that I will review them soon. It seems that I might as well perform these reviews on behalf of the AppsDir, so I will plan to do that unless Claudio objects. Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Wed Jul 31 06:30:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DDD11E818F for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:30:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.707 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.707 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bGh6C4uGWLiZ for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402D221F9EE9 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:30:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.local To: Peter Saint-Andre In-Reply-To: <51F90F31.3090905@stpeter.im> Message-ID: References: <51F90F31.3090905@stpeter.im> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1375277433; bh=STn5/KzUa272oZtOCpwNCibFLUQMru9Mgmwod9w7VBM=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=umBY5O9KP7qZNuM6QtG3pLVNH4zVlkfGB35VOvinBg5F+dFzKXhrd3aHIdy3gX6iH etg0cTpNYUHhkfQ/WUt/aUixVv9OtISl1rMAAwkgXzpE2EDVQqiBTw8Eo+uPMQF30S IvF/ZmkVWjblfb0ECDnon/zskPjdmQmFhPtPxhE4= Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] drinks I-Ds X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:30:41 -0000 On Wed, 31 Jul 2013, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > A chair of the DRINKS WG pinged me directly long ago about reviewing > draft-ietf-drinks-spp-framework and > draft-ietf-drinks-spp-protocol-over-soap. He just told me that those > documents are ready for IETF last call, and I told him that I will > review them soon. It seems that I might as well perform these reviews > on behalf of the AppsDir, so I will plan to do that unless Claudio > objects. I've no objection Peter, that's ok. Just take also the occasion to check that he know the new early review procedure, and than we are applying it now to these 2 draft! > > Peter > > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > > _______________________________________________ > appsdir mailing list > appsdir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Wed Jul 31 06:59:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC8921F9CC3; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:59:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.708 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.708 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.011, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jZW1HaDoUaQa; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0B121F9D0F; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:58:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.local To: Dave Crocker In-Reply-To: <51F911A7.3010200@bbiw.net> Message-ID: References: <51F911A7.3010200@bbiw.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1375279089; bh=JMjd0WdcTaFO30WWvROph4AhBmDgYQ+JkTXj05V90AY=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=o5JQo6gi67bN9qPBCd0usvz/yqMbMeLZxWVraoBFpqO+sKfvrepW+AOHcK+G9M0NQ /iSsXTW6sebnazCCaihclhqR3QSOAKN7XDm/DA+inhGm2CcIu47JFtZAaXVZshox5Q fgcVr7tTcxcsyt57TnJzEQdwPMp+av4j5BiS8Jvk= Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, dir-coord@ietf.org, Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] Early apps review of: draft-ietf-repute-considerations-02 ? X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:59:21 -0000 On Wed, 31 Jul 2013, Dave Crocker wrote: > Claudio, > > The Repute working group would appreciate an "early" apps review of: > > > Operational Considerations Regarding Reputation Services > > draft-ietf-repute-considerations-02 thanks for the request, Dave. I cc AppsDir and dir-coord lists. I'd like to ask Tobias Gondrom to do the review, is it ok Tobias? as a due date, is August 30th ok for everybody? I'd like to assigne at least 3 to 4 weeks to any early review we take, thus we have time for performing them "with due diligence" ;-) > > Thanks! > > d/ > -- > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org Wed Jul 31 07:39:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEA421E8123 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:39:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -96.632 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.632 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.270, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P9V0WLKW+h4J for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de (lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de [176.28.13.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B20211E8109 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:39:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=gondrom.org; b=iWrxucV34rGMpqRnsi00pmtyLh+oWAiustcBXNBJ7vI6tfSXIUy5Oz22ooPqOeDyaHe5ihcvSiyy4YYAvPLv0PjKJQ70kq04BIXO08OBlD0+vv5AC9eg4m2USOssrD8b; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; Received: (qmail 21594 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2013 16:38:58 +0200 Received: from dhcp-461e.meeting.ietf.org (HELO ?130.129.70.30?) (130.129.70.30) by lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 31 Jul 2013 16:38:58 +0200 Message-ID: <51F92182.8000001@gondrom.org> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:38:58 +0200 From: Tobias Gondrom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it References: <51F911A7.3010200@bbiw.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, dcrocker@bbiw.net, dir-coord@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Early apps review of: draft-ietf-repute-considerations-02 ? X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:39:08 -0000 Hi, ack and confirm. As this one is pretty short, I should be able to do it before the deadline, probably next week, as this week is a bit busy with IETF meeting. ;-) Cheers, Tobias On 31/07/13 15:58, Claudio Allocchio wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Jul 2013, Dave Crocker wrote: > >> Claudio, >> >> The Repute working group would appreciate an "early" apps review of: >> >> >> Operational Considerations Regarding Reputation Services >> >> draft-ietf-repute-considerations-02 > > thanks for the request, Dave. I cc AppsDir and dir-coord lists. > > I'd like to ask Tobias Gondrom to do the review, is it ok Tobias? > > as a due date, is August 30th ok for everybody? I'd like to assigne at > least 3 to 4 weeks to any early review we take, thus we have time for > performing them "with due diligence" ;-) > > > >> Thanks! >> >> d/ >> -- >> Dave Crocker >> Brandenburg InternetWorking >> bbiw.net >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Claudio Allocchio G A R R > Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it > Senior Technical Officer > tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; > S=Allocchio; > fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; > C=it; > > PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca > _______________________________________________ > appsdir mailing list > appsdir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir