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Hi all,

now the Berlin IETF is winding up, here is what went on LC lately and we 
did not catch before and possible assignments. Some of them are short 
timed, but also short documents (and many Informational):

draft-nandakumar-rtcweb-stun-uri-05
LC exp Aug 16th
Ted Hardie?

draft-ietf-dime-overload-reqs-10
LC exp Aug 16th
Enrico Marocco?

draft-ietf-tls-oob-pubkey-09.txt
LC exp Aug 16th
Bert Greevenbosch?

draft-kaplan-insipid-session-id-03
LC exp Aug 30th
Vijay Gurbani?

Could you please ACK assignments?

I know many people are taking some rest after the IETF... thus...

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Hi Mark,

>draft-nandakumar-rtcweb-stun-uri-05
>LC exp Aug 16th

Ted suggests somebody else could add more comments on this review (because 
he has already posted many comments)... Could you please take over the 
above one?

I still did not receive any confirmation from Enrico and Vijay... are you 
available?


draft-ietf-dime-overload-reqs-10
LC exp Aug 16th
Enrico Marocco?

draft-kaplan-insipid-session-id-03
LC exp Aug 30th
Vijay Gurbani?

Many thanks!!

Claudio

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Unfortunately -- no, very fortunately actually :-) -- I'll be on=20
vacation since Aug 15. I can do the review in the week afterward (say,=20
by Friday 23) if it can be of any use.

I'm sorry, with the meeting and everything must have missed the first=20
request.

Enrico

On 8/7/13 3:36 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
>> draft-nandakumar-rtcweb-stun-uri-05
>> LC exp Aug 16th
>
> Ted suggests somebody else could add more comments on this review (beca=
use
> he has already posted many comments)... Could you please take over the
> above one?
>
> I still did not receive any confirmation from Enrico and Vijay... are y=
ou
> available?
>
>
> draft-ietf-dime-overload-reqs-10
> LC exp Aug 16th
> Enrico Marocco?
>
> draft-kaplan-insipid-session-id-03
> LC exp Aug 30th
> Vijay Gurbani?
>
> Many thanks!!
>
> Claudio
> _______________________________________________
> appsdir mailing list
> appsdir@ietf.org
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On Wed, 7 Aug 2013, Enrico Marocco wrote:

> Unfortunately -- no, very fortunately actually :-) -- I'll be on vacation 
> since Aug 15. I can do the review in the week afterward (say, by Friday 23) 
> if it can be of any use.

I'm checking to find out when it will be on the IESG telechat (I suspect 
the 18th)... but let's see.

Is there in case another volunteer?

>
> I'm sorry, with the meeting and everything must have missed the first 
> request.
>
> Enrico
>
> On 8/7/13 3:36 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>>> draft-nandakumar-rtcweb-stun-uri-05
>>> LC exp Aug 16th
>> 
>> Ted suggests somebody else could add more comments on this review (because
>> he has already posted many comments)... Could you please take over the
>> above one?
>> 
>> I still did not receive any confirmation from Enrico and Vijay... are you
>> available?
>> 
>> 
>> draft-ietf-dime-overload-reqs-10
>> LC exp Aug 16th
>> Enrico Marocco?
>> 
>> draft-kaplan-insipid-session-id-03
>> LC exp Aug 30th
>> Vijay Gurbani?
>> 
>> Many thanks!!
>> 
>> Claudio
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> I'm checking to find out when it will be on the IESG telechat (I suspect the
> 18th)... but let's see.

We have telechats on Thursdays, not on Sundays.  15 Aug, 29 Aug, 12
Sep, 26 Sep....

Benoit hasn't put the dime document on a telechat agenda yet, but I
suspect it'll be on the 29th unless something serious comes up during
Lsat Call.

That said, we really should be respecting the Last Call dates.  Late
reviews can always be useful, especially if they uncover something
significant that was missed, but we should make every effort to get
App Dir reviews in before the end of Last Call.

Barry

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On Thu, 8 Aug 2013, Barry Leiba wrote:

>> I'm checking to find out when it will be on the IESG telechat (I suspect the
>> 18th)... but let's see.
>
> We have telechats on Thursdays, not on Sundays.  15 Aug, 29 Aug, 12
> Sep, 26 Sep....

yes... no calendar in front when I wrote 18th... I've problems to remember 
which day it is while on holidays :-)

> Benoit hasn't put the dime document on a telechat agenda yet, but I
> suspect it'll be on the 29th unless something serious comes up during
> Lsat Call.

also because Benoit is on holidays until the end of August, apparently.

> That said, we really should be respecting the Last Call dates.  Late
> reviews can always be useful, especially if they uncover something
> significant that was missed, but we should make every effort to get
> App Dir reviews in before the end of Last Call.

than we need somebody else, because Enrico is not available before the 
19th.


>
> Barry
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as there are quite a number of review wich we wait for in the next few 
days, it's quicker if I just point to

  http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/tracker

thus in the top part reviwers can check their dates :-)

all the best!

PS: IMHO the latest LC drafts do not seem at a quick glance to have really 
AppsDir isses, but if the ADs wishes some of the to be in the list, just 
ask!

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On 8/13/2013 6:46 AM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
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> as there are quite a number of review wich we wait for in the next few
> days, it's quicker if I just point to
>
>   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/tracker


That's a pretty interesting page, but it doesn't seem to be cited in the 
wiki's home page.  Possibly not anywhere else, either.

Any objections to adding it there?

Also, looking at the ietf home page, I don't see anything that points to 
"areas", including /not/ under the obscure Resources>wikis sequence. 
There is a pointer to 'areas' under http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/, 
but that strikes me as too well-buried to be useful from the unfamiliar 
user.

I did, finally, find tools.ietf.org/area, but it's not cited on the IETF 
home page.

When all the real "grassroots" work is in working groups, then 
organizing everything by that one attribute makes sense.  But as soon as 
we have other area-based activities, such as directorates, we should 
tout the fact pretty high up in the website indexes.

Thoughts?

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Hi Dave,
At 09:46 13-08-2013, Dave Crocker wrote:
>That's a pretty interesting page, but it doesn't seem to be cited in 
>the wiki's home page.  Possibly not anywhere else, either.

The tracker web page is mentioned on 
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate

>Also, looking at the ietf home page, I don't see anything that 
>points to "areas", including /not/ under the obscure Resources>wikis 
>sequence. There is a pointer to 'areas' under 
>http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/, but that strikes me as too 
>well-buried to be useful from the unfamiliar user.

I haven't used http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/  The AppsDir web 
page is listed on http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate.html

Information is scattered around.  The unfamiliar user gets lost 
trying to find his/her way through the IETF sites.  The problem might 
be that documentation is not maintained.

Best regards,
-sm 


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On 8/13/2013 10:15 AM, SM wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> At 09:46 13-08-2013, Dave Crocker wrote:
>> That's a pretty interesting page, but it doesn't seem to be cited in
>> the wiki's home page.  Possibly not anywhere else, either.
>
> The tracker web page is mentioned on
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate

Right.  Very buried.


> I haven't used http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/  The AppsDir web page
> is listed on http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate.html

Again, my point exactly.  Buried under "iesg".


> Information is scattered around.  The unfamiliar user gets lost trying
> to find his/her way through the IETF sites.  The problem might be that
> documentation is not maintained.

This is about web site organization, and thinking in terms of a fresh 
user who does not already know what's on the site.

Areas have become considerably more than mere aggregations of working 
groups.  The web site ought to reflect that.

d/

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Hi Dave,
At 10:45 13-08-2013, Dave Crocker wrote:
>Right.  Very buried.

Yes.

>This is about web site organization, and thinking in terms of a 
>fresh user who does not already know what's on the site.

Agreed.

>Areas have become considerably more than mere aggregations of 
>working groups.  The web site ought to reflect that.

The IETF decided to redo its web site over a year ago.  I don't think 
that much thought was given to the "thinking in terms of a fresh 
user".  Information is scattered around various sites (re. 
aggregation comment).  This is where I'll sigh and go and do something else.

Best regards,
-sm 


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Hi Dave,

On 13/08/2013 17:46, Dave Crocker wrote:
> On 8/13/2013 6:46 AM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>>
>> as there are quite a number of review wich we wait for in the next few
>> days, it's quicker if I just point to
>>
>>   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/tracker
>
>
> That's a pretty interesting page, but it doesn't seem to be cited in 
> the wiki's home page.  Possibly not anywhere else, either.
>
> Any objections to adding it there?
>
> Also, looking at the ietf home page, I don't see anything that points 
> to "areas", including /not/ under the obscure Resources>wikis 
> sequence. There is a pointer to 'areas' under 
> http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/, but that strikes me as too 
> well-buried to be useful from the unfamiliar user.
>
> I did, finally, find tools.ietf.org/area, but it's not cited on the 
> IETF home page.
>
> When all the real "grassroots" work is in working groups, then 
> organizing everything by that one attribute makes sense.  But as soon 
> as we have other area-based activities, such as directorates, we 
> should tout the fact pretty high up in the website indexes.
>
> Thoughts?
I think adding a link would be a good idea.


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yes... it is true... I'll add a link to the wiki pages I can edit as soon 
as I'm back next week and I have a better connectivity... But as SM 
suggests, we shoul also include better visibility in the general IETF web 
pages.

On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Alexey Melnikov wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> On 13/08/2013 17:46, Dave Crocker wrote:
>> On 8/13/2013 6:46 AM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>>> 
>>> as there are quite a number of review wich we wait for in the next few
>>> days, it's quicker if I just point to
>>>
>>>   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/tracker
>> 
>> 
>> That's a pretty interesting page, but it doesn't seem to be cited in the 
>> wiki's home page.  Possibly not anywhere else, either.
>> 
>> Any objections to adding it there?
>> 
>> Also, looking at the ietf home page, I don't see anything that points to 
>> "areas", including /not/ under the obscure Resources>wikis sequence. There 
>> is a pointer to 'areas' under http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/, but that 
>> strikes me as too well-buried to be useful from the unfamiliar user.
>> 
>> I did, finally, find tools.ietf.org/area, but it's not cited on the IETF 
>> home page.
>> 
>> When all the real "grassroots" work is in working groups, then organizing 
>> everything by that one attribute makes sense.  But as soon as we have other 
>> area-based activities, such as directorates, we should tout the fact pretty 
>> high up in the website indexes.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
> I think adding a link would be a good idea.
>
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> But as SM suggests,
> we shoul also include better visibility in the general IETF web pages.

The IESG is listening; I'm putting this on the agenda for informal
discussion next week.

Barry

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On 8/14/2013 6:28 AM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
> I'll add a link to the wiki pages I can edit as soon as I'm back next
> week and I have a better connectivity...

sound good.  thanks!

(and to barry for the iesg reference.)

d/

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On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Claudio Allocchio <
> Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> wrote:
>
>> draft-ietf-geopriv-res-gw-lis-discovery-05
>> due date: August 15th 2013 (LC ends before, but this is to allow some
>> more time)
>> Assigned to Murray S. Kucherawy.
>>
>> Please ACK if you can make the review !
>>
>>
> ack.
>
>
Apologies, but I'm going to be late on this one.  It'll probably happen
over the weekend.

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On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Vijay K. Gurbani wrote:

> On 08/07/2013 11:59 AM, Enrico Marocco wrote:
>> Unfortunately -- no, very fortunately actually :-) -- I'll be on
>> vacation since Aug 15. I can do the review in the week afterward (say,
>> by Friday 23) if it can be of any use.
>> 
>> I'm sorry, with the meeting and everything must have missed the first
>> request.
>
> Claudio: Enrico is on vacation.
>
> If no one has volunteered for Enrico's draft (draft-ietf-dime-overload-
> reqs-10), I could conceivably help here.
>
> I am doing some SIP overload work in the IETF right now, so the Diameter
> overload sort of is in the same space.
>
> Let me know.

as Vijay is taking the review of draft-ietf-dime-overload-reqs-10, could 
Enrico please to the review of draft-ietf-dime-realm-based-redirect-11 
which is in LC and ends on August 28th?

>
> Thanks,
>
> - vijay
> -- 
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Hallo all,

these are the new drafts in LC which I supouse we should take a look at:

draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-sack-immediately-03
due date Aug 26th
assigned to Genn Parsons

and the whole set of the repute-wg documents:

draft-ietf-repute-query-http-09
assigned to Eric Burger

draft-ietf-repute-model-07
assigned to Tony Hansen

draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10
assigned to Elliot Lear

draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-08
assigned to Alexey Melnikov

all repute-wg docs are due date Aug 29th.

Could reviewrs please ACK for assignements :-)

thanks indeed and have a nice week end!

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Hi Claudio,
At 07:24 16-08-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10
>assigned to Elliot Lear
>
>draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-08
>assigned to Alexey Melnikov

Alexey already did a review of draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10.  I 
suggest that the two assignments be switched so that it is less work.

Best regards,
-sm 


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SM <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:
>Hi Claudio,
>At 07:24 16-08-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>>draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10
>>assigned to Elliot Lear
>>
>>draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-08
>>assigned to Alexey Melnikov
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>Alexey already did a review of draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10.  I 
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Hi Claudio,
At 01:43 17-08-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>ok... sorry for the mismatch ... still on holiday thus a lot of sun 
>before reading mails :-)

It's not a mismatch.  It's my fault as I did not record that there 
was an old assignment for the draft.

Enjoy the holidays. :-)

Best regards,
-sm  


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Hello,

as I did not receive any ACK, I just ask for them again :-)

------

these are the new drafts in LC which I supouse we should take a look at:

draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-sack-immediately-03
due date Aug 26th
assigned to Genn Parsons

and the whole set of the repute-wg documents:

draft-ietf-repute-query-http-09
assigned to Eric Burger

draft-ietf-repute-model-07
assigned to Tony Hansen

draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10
assigned to Elliot Lear

draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-08
assigned to Alexey Melnikov

all repute-wg docs are due date Aug 29th.

Could reviewrs please ACK for assignements :-)

thanks indeed and have a nice week end!

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Hi Claudio,

Sorry.  I need to NACK on mine, this time around.  Please assign to another.

Eliot



On 8/22/13 5:37 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> as I did not receive any ACK, I just ask for them again :-)
>
> ------
>
> these are the new drafts in LC which I supouse we should take a look at:
>
> draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-sack-immediately-03
> due date Aug 26th
> assigned to Genn Parsons
>
> and the whole set of the repute-wg documents:
>
> draft-ietf-repute-query-http-09
> assigned to Eric Burger
>
> draft-ietf-repute-model-07
> assigned to Tony Hansen
>
> draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10
> assigned to Elliot Lear
>
> draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-08
> assigned to Alexey Melnikov
>
> all repute-wg docs are due date Aug 29th.
>
> Could reviewrs please ACK for assignements :-)
>
> thanks indeed and have a nice week end!
>
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Hello all,

here is another drafts in LC which I sugget to provide a review for our 
ADs and authors:

draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-19
assigned to Dave Crocker
due date: 2013-09-02

There is also this quite long Informational draft, which I'm a bit dubuous 
about given our available resouces:

draft-ietf-mediactrl-call-flows-13
due date: 2013-09-03

but if there is a volunteer to do it... it's fine!

There are many other drafts in LC currently that maybe out ADs want a 
review of, too, aside those we are already listing at

http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/tracker

thus if some of them also needs a review from our team, just point it out!

many thanks!

PS: as usual, please ACK these assignements!

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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Eliot Lear wrote:

> Hi Claudio,
>
> Sorry.  I need to NACK on mine, this time around.  Please assign to another.
> Eliot

OK...

Dave (Cridland) are tou avaiable to take it over?

>> draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10
>> assigned to Elliot Lear
>>
>> all repute-wg docs are due date Aug 29th.

>> Could reviewrs please ACK for assignements :-)

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On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Dave Crocker wrote:

> On 8/14/2013 6:28 AM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>> I'll add a link to the wiki pages I can edit as soon as I'm back next
>> week and I have a better connectivity...

I did add a set of more evident links to our AppsDir wiki pages thus they 
should show more the http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/tracker 
page.

Now it's up to ADs and IESG to decide how to make this also more generally 
visible!

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On 8/22/2013 9:24 AM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Dave Crocker wrote:
>
>> On 8/14/2013 6:28 AM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>>> I'll add a link to the wiki pages I can edit as soon as I'm back next
>>> week and I have a better connectivity...
>
> I did add a set of more evident links to our AppsDir wiki pages thus
> they should show more the
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/tracker page.
>
> Now it's up to ADs and IESG to decide how to make this also more
> generally visible!

ack. tnx.


and while we have this thread going, I'll wonder out loud about an 
additional thought:

    The sequence of reviews various people do for a doc should be linked 
to the document history in the datatracker.  (A link, not a copy, in the 
tracker.)

    This would require some sort of addressing convention for the review 
-- and possibly more conventions than that -- probably for one of the 
<draft name>.* addresses.

I think it should all be kept quite simple and open.  For example, 
anyone wanting to offer a "review" should be allowed to; don't restrict 
the sources of reviews.  If someone abuses that, then remove the link by 
hand.  My guess is that that won't be a significant problem.

d/

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On 8/22/2013 9:06 AM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
> draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-19
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> due date: 2013-09-02


I'm glad to do this; in fact it will be useful for me.

But for cleanliness, I suggest making a /second/ assignment, to someone 
who has not been active in the working group.

d/
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> draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-19
> assigned to Dave Crocker
> due date: 2013-09-02

Dave is very active in the spfbis working group, and has already
reviewed the document there.  I'd like to get someone who has not
already reviewed this document to do the appsdir review.

Barry

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The repute stuff is not terribly extensive.  You might want to find one
reviewer for all four.  Otherwise, you might find four people have to refer
to all three of the others anyway.

Dave, do you agree?


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>
> Hello,
>
> as I did not receive any ACK, I just ask for them again :-)
>
> ------
>
> these are the new drafts in LC which I supouse we should take a look at:
>
> draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-sack-**immediately-03
> due date Aug 26th
> assigned to Genn Parsons
>
> and the whole set of the repute-wg documents:
>
> draft-ietf-repute-query-http-**09
> assigned to Eric Burger
>
> draft-ietf-repute-model-07
> assigned to Tony Hansen
>
> draft-ietf-repute-media-type-**10
> assigned to Elliot Lear
>
> draft-ietf-repute-email-**identifiers-08
> assigned to Alexey Melnikov
>
> all repute-wg docs are due date Aug 29th.
>
> Could reviewrs please ACK for assignements :-)
>
> thanks indeed and have a nice week end!
>
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Hello,<br>
<br>
as I did not receive any ACK, I just ask for them again :-)<br>
<br>
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<br>
these are the new drafts in LC which I supouse we should take a look at:<br=
>
<br>
draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-sack-<u></u>immediately-03<br>
due date Aug 26th<br>
assigned to Genn Parsons<br>
<br>
and the whole set of the repute-wg documents:<br>
<br>
draft-ietf-repute-query-http-<u></u>09<br>
assigned to Eric Burger<br>
<br>
draft-ietf-repute-model-07<br>
assigned to Tony Hansen<br>
<br>
draft-ietf-repute-media-type-<u></u>10<br>
assigned to Elliot Lear<br>
<br>
draft-ietf-repute-email-<u></u>identifiers-08<br>
assigned to Alexey Melnikov<br>
<br>
all repute-wg docs are due date Aug 29th.<br>
<br>
Could reviewrs please ACK for assignements :-)<br>
<br>
thanks indeed and have a nice week end!<br>
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On 17/08/2013 09:43, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
> ok... sorry for the mismatch ... still on holiday thus a lot of sun 
> before reading mails :-)
I can review draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10. So is Eliot reviewing 
draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-08 then?
> -- 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> SM <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi Claudio,
>     At 07:24 16-08-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>
>         draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10 assigned to Elliot Lear
>         draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-08 assigned to Alexey Melnikov
>
>
>     Alexey already did a review of draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10.  I
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>     Best regards,
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      wrote:<br>
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At 07:24 16-08-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10
assigned to Elliot Lear

draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-08
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Alexey already did a review of draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10.  I 
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:

> The repute stuff is not terribly extensive.  You might want to find one
> reviewer for all four.  Otherwise, you might find four people have to refer
> to all three of the others anyway.

I know... they are all short and realated, and I pickd out the "usual 
suspects" from the e-mail guys to spread the little load (given the short 
time). But nothing against just one person doing them all.

But we need someone who takes them.
>
> Dave, do you agree?
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Claudio Allocchio <
> Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> as I did not receive any ACK, I just ask for them again :-)
>>
>> ------
>>
>> these are the new drafts in LC which I supouse we should take a look at:
>>
>> draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-sack-**immediately-03
>> due date Aug 26th
>> assigned to Genn Parsons
>>
>> and the whole set of the repute-wg documents:
>>
>> draft-ietf-repute-query-http-**09
>> assigned to Eric Burger
>>
>> draft-ietf-repute-model-07
>> assigned to Tony Hansen
>>
>> draft-ietf-repute-media-type-**10
>> assigned to Elliot Lear
>>
>> draft-ietf-repute-email-**identifiers-08
>> assigned to Alexey Melnikov
>>
>> all repute-wg docs are due date Aug 29th.
>>
>> Could reviewrs please ACK for assignements :-)
>>
>> thanks indeed and have a nice week end!
>>
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Barry Leiba wrote:

>> draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-19
>> assigned to Dave Crocker
>> due date: 2013-09-02
>
> Dave is very active in the spfbis working group, and has already
> reviewed the document there.  I'd like to get someone who has not
> already reviewed this document to do the appsdir review.

Ok, what about Alexey... or in case myself?

>
> Barry
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Alexey Melnikov wrote:

> On 17/08/2013 09:43, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>> ok... sorry for the mismatch ... still on holiday thus a lot of sun before 
>> reading mails :-)
> I can review draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10. So is Eliot reviewing 
> draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-08 then?

no, it was SM making the mismatch :-)

keep draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-08 for you Alexey... :-)


>> -- 
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>> 
>> SM <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Claudio,
>>     At 07:24 16-08-2013, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>>
>>         draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10 assigned to Elliot Lear
>>         draft-ietf-repute-email-identifiers-08 assigned to Alexey Melnikov
>> 
>>
>>     Alexey already did a review of draft-ietf-repute-media-type-10.  I
>>     suggest that the two assignments be switched so that it is less work.
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>     -sm
>> 
>
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I'll take it, having stepped away from another and being somewhat
familiar with the issues, albeit from outside the WG.

On 8/22/13 10:51 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Barry Leiba wrote:
>
>>> draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-19
>>> assigned to Dave Crocker
>>> due date: 2013-09-02
>>
>> Dave is very active in the spfbis working group, and has already
>> reviewed the document there.  I'd like to get someone who has not
>> already reviewed this document to do the appsdir review.
>
> Ok, what about Alexey... or in case myself?
>
>>
>> Barry
>>
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Eliot Lear wrote:

> I'll take it, having stepped away from another and being somewhat
> familiar with the issues, albeit from outside the WG.

ok, thanks!


>
> On 8/22/13 10:51 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Barry Leiba wrote:
>>
>>>> draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-19
>>>> assigned to Dave Crocker
>>>> due date: 2013-09-02
>>>
>>> Dave is very active in the spfbis working group, and has already
>>> reviewed the document there.  I'd like to get someone who has not
>>> already reviewed this document to do the appsdir review.
>>
>> Ok, what about Alexey... or in case myself?
>>
>>>
>>> Barry
>>>
>>
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> On Thu, 22 Aug 2013, Eliot Lear wrote:
>> I'll take it, having stepped away from another and being somewhat
>> familiar with the issues, albeit from outside the WG.
>
> ok, thanks!

Yes, thanks, Eliot.

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> and while we have this thread going, I'll wonder out loud about an additional 
> thought:
>
>   The sequence of reviews various people do for a doc should be linked to 
> the document history in the datatracker.  (A link, not a copy, in the 
> tracker.)

that's a good idea (and we should include all reviews, wherever they come 
from).

>   This would require some sort of addressing convention for the review -- 
> and possibly more conventions than that -- probably for one of the <draft 
> name>.* addresses.

this is the tricky part... reviews usually are e-mail messages, with not 
always consistent Subject line (as this is inserted by the sender), and 
errors in this sort of tagging are always possible. Making the Datatracker 
be able to pick up automatically from ML archives (like apps-discuss) 
seems somehow a non simple problem to solve. Maybe enabling some other 
function (a revier does send the e-mail review message ALSO to a special 
robot address which then makes the link from the ML to Datatracker 
automatically); something similar to what we have for

    <draf-name-no-version.all@tools.ietf.org>

e.g.

To: bla bla bla...
cc: <draft-name-no-version.tracker@tools.ietf.org>


> I think it should all be kept quite simple and open.  For example, anyone 
> wanting to offer a "review" should be allowed to; don't restrict the sources 
> of reviews.  If someone abuses that, then remove the link by hand.  My guess 
> is that that won't be a significant problem.
>

I Agree.

> d/
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> Dave Crocker
> Brandenburg InternetWorking
> bbiw.net
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On 8/23/2013 6:40 AM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
>>   This would require some sort of addressing convention for the review
>> -- and possibly more conventions than that -- probably for one of the
>> <draft name>.* addresses.
>
> this is the tricky part... reviews usually are e-mail messages, with not
> always consistent Subject line (as this is inserted by the sender), and
> errors in this sort of tagging are always possible. Making the

Fair point.  And as you describe it, I'd have to agree that some 
percentage of folk are certain to screw it up, given its free-form nature.


> Datatracker be able to pick up automatically from ML archives (like
> apps-discuss) seems somehow a non simple problem to solve. Maybe
> enabling some other function (a revier does send the e-mail review
> message ALSO to a special robot address which then makes the link from
> the ML to Datatracker automatically); something similar to what we have for
>
>     <draf-name-no-version.all@tools.ietf.org>
>
> e.g.
>
> To: bla bla bla...
> cc: <draft-name-no-version.tracker@tools.ietf.org>

yeah, that seems reasonable.

if a reviewer doesn't remember to include this address, it's not a big 
deal for the doc shepherd (or whoever) to forward to that address.  so 
this approach seems like it has both simplicity and robustness to it.


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