From nobody Wed May 14 12:53:54 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DD81A0164 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 12:53:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.772 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.772 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eyc_zBlhqO4w for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 12:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C451A016A for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 12:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 21:53:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3 To: appsdir@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1400097212; bh=yyIKEkMO9Yl8DmabGwSjFH/PY8en0wQG78VjGS0c7wY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=kGJceCuxr2eIfxdga4rFBJXD42GYD0f2ZwKZFA1U8ULZnOSxiZvQY9HzeJokIOUkQ IVIEE1Mc/zpylhiyj06B24iG/eyA+v74xSfBYN9C1tIZUcHXbNfYzCHg1QeeG++G4g 88XtEfUJdJbN8PWuodVjoT10xrohNic7bXuvsefI= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/appsdir/MdUesAFj5ISAeD7f3_KXiXg8k3U Subject: [appsdir] Request for Review - Last Call: (Latching: Hosted NAT Traversal (HNT) for Media in Real-Time Communication) to Informational RFC (fwd) X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 19:53:49 -0000 Hello all, after a long quiet period, here is a Draft which IMHO deserves a review; any of our multimedia experts volunteering for it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 12:29:27 -0700 From: The IESG Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org To: IETF-Announce Cc: mmusic@ietf.org Subject: Last Call: (Latching: Hosted NAT Traversal (HNT) for Media in Real-Time Communication) to Informational RFC The IESG has received a request from the Multiparty Multimedia Session Control WG (mmusic) to consider the following document: - 'Latching: Hosted NAT Traversal (HNT) for Media in Real-Time Communication' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2014-05-28. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document describes behavior of signalling intermediaries in Real-Time Communication (RTC) deployments, sometimes referred to as Session Border Controllers (SBCs), when performing Hosted NAT Traversal (HNT). HNT is a set of mechanisms, such as media relaying and latching, that such intermediaries use to enable other RTC devices behind NATs to communicate with each other. This document is non-normative, and is only written to explain HNT in order to provide a reference to the IETF community, as well as an informative description to manufacturers, and users. Latching, which is one of the components of the HNT components, has a number of security issues covered here. Because of those, and unless all security considerations explained here are taken into account and solved, the IETF advises against use of this mechanism over the Internet and recommends other solutions such as the Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) protocol. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mmusic-latching/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mmusic-latching/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From nobody Wed May 14 23:42:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA2D1A03DC for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 23:42:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YOUZjVJpkDBO for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 23:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 053401A0229 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 23:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <5373D397.9050908@bell-labs.com> References: <5373D397.9050908@bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 From: Claudio Allocchio Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 08:41:44 +0200 To: "Vijay K. Gurbani" , appsdir@ietf.org Message-ID: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1400136112; bh=ZUwzVqSYGRDgTDeN7bWmNcmDUj5TNRCeNMI7AdgOVLs=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Date:To; b=cE2/MEOG8OV0DPhlrZR30Xdii2YvqSS1mY5mkCtODfD0plKHrkkGOjOy7Y5PrmkkZ kYik1tKD/QIVAlAHwH725MURmt8L8TVLMi87gGNZQq2a2kQ6wbQ1QyBKiD5CKVo0JW 4T2gzHNItZkVfzxYsqQeB/nkVHP+I8r8nVIBrFdo= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/appsdir/y_457_wGWcEswUghrNFAC9Ok_1A Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for Review - Last Call: (Latching: Hosted NAT Traversal (HNT) for Media in Real-Time Communication) to Informational RFC (fwd) X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 06:42:11 -0000 OK Vijay! thanks indeed! Before the lc ends On May 14, 2014 10:35:35 PM CEST, "Vijay K. Gurbani" wrote: >On 05/14/2014 02:53 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> after a long quiet period, here is a Draft which IMHO deserves a >review; >> any of our multimedia experts volunteering for it? > >Claudio: I can do it if no one has volunteered already. Let me know. > >Cheers, > >- vijay -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From nobody Sat May 17 08:51:23 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0956C1A013B for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.928 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.928 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C6n9fei2pfuq for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 08:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 268D11A011C for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 08:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 17:51:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it To: appsdir@ietf.org, "Morteza Ansari (moransar)" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1400341868; bh=QLQomSziNwdz7CnljDxsEnNpaqzaN0yd6WRr6hDWas4=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=bPLM5NEQr1uWztcic9k2L+a36itZKdEt5SV4Impye7QCrpMKQq9v363xAdS/0YoNw JuKe9lfzZzXPtED3lj6V/FPPJPsoUC8cIuBgrVL52DMVhE5AXfk6VuP6YFFKJBk+EA 7xYpoUz8vDO3oWj3HDWTh0E9Ink0bY9UcZzKRx+M= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/appsdir/1TIh4gdoYq3Odz0YwY97HgmGKks Cc: Leif Johansson , "claudio.allocchio@garr.it" Subject: Re: [appsdir] IANA consideration help X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 15:51:21 -0000 Hello Morteza, On Sat, 17 May 2014, Morteza Ansari (moransar) wrote: > Hi Claudio, > > Barry suggested I ping you and ask for someone to help us with the > review of the IANA consideration for the SCIM documents. In discussion > regarding this a few questions came up and we could use some help in > better understanding a few key points and then get help with the review > of the text. Thanks for your help. sure! I guess the best way to do this is to ask a review to the AppsDir folks, which I already copy in here. Do you have a specific list of drafts already? thus we do not forget some? best! > > > Cheers, > Morteza > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From nobody Mon May 19 08:11:55 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC31D1A008D for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 08:11:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.772 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.772 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9u4GNwmL0imP for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 08:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41F481A0102 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 08:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 17:11:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@dhcp-c101a41d.ucd.ie To: "Morteza Ansari (moransar)" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-636382024-1400512297=:16596" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1400512297; bh=4vWTyH8wYxv+zPgGR0JLqbQyM43LfWhfw9EjbPKM2w4=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=XA2P2ogbfP50aqssg6JlsHE+7ESEJMCAohAPEFr3QBmF8PKUTzfaeq3SA67yKG2wJ KdDyyKmAFSr9tLIbBfrP6KQArzGqLlkrhUA0F7c5PEHGzhhQWWWegexhMTyW+dW7R1 9SD8EGeV/E3is5py5Bu59j8XSwfNXSnK/0rIKwhY= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/appsdir/EzhtwDwcWPmYlIjsRiOpPc-UwyA Cc: Leif Johansson , "appsdir@ietf.org" , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] IANA consideration help X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 15:11:53 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-636382024-1400512297=:16596 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 19 May 2014, Morteza Ansari (moransar) wrote: > Thanks Claudio. There are two documents: > > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/scim/draft-ietf-scim-core-schema/ > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/scim/draft-ietf-scim-api/ > > However, I donšt think they are quite ready for review. The editors had a > few questions about IANA consideration and wanted to get a contact to ask > for some suggestion/advise. If AppsDir@ietf.org is the right place to ask > for advise, I can certainly point them to that. well, the AppsDir is a grop of people which has quite some exoerience in various fields; thus, apart for doing semi-formal reviews, we can be also helpful for suggestions/advices in general... :-) yes, please, point them here. > > > Cheers, > Morteza > > On 5/17/14, 8:51 AM, "Claudio Allocchio" wrote: > >> >> Hello Morteza, >> >> On Sat, 17 May 2014, Morteza Ansari (moransar) wrote: >> >>> Hi Claudio, >>> >>> Barry suggested I ping you and ask for someone to help us with the >>> review of the IANA consideration for the SCIM documents. In discussion >>> regarding this a few questions came up and we could use some help in >>> better understanding a few key points and then get help with the review >>> of the text. Thanks for your help. >> >> sure! >> >> I guess the best way to do this is to ask a review to the AppsDir folks, >> which I already copy in here. >> >> Do you have a specific list of drafts already? thus we do not forget some? >> >> best! >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Morteza >>> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> Claudio Allocchio G A R R >> Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it >> Senior Technical Officer >> tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; >> S=Allocchio; >> fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; >> >> PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca --0-636382024-1400512297=:16596-- From nobody Mon May 19 23:34:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD8B1A017A for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 08:07:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.152 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.152 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B38HXJqce5-P for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 08:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.86.79]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 294681A0117 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 08:06:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1680; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1400512006; x=1401721606; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=BWDBI1aS6dRdLgP61wVFnWMVfFIEo0W1eeYHsSC0AH0=; b=fVxv3hUCZ9dpgxnCUkwLJOj3/HZRze9yOcNAq4/ROyfthUFyqwM+5LFe QiJTvFvdV6Ou1+f0MkoiuOnk6/MYq+GT15fmaKiPzvbkPSXYHlbHytlRI j4Mx+PVVxF+FG1aM9uzVEB/uggNATk5ufrW0O9lulOZn9PVC9hx8dSx0O 8=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoHAKcdelOtJA2K/2dsb2JhbABZgwZRWKlQAQEBAQEBBQGaKwGBFRZ0giUBAQEEeRACAQgYLjIlAgQBDQWIQAEN0ggXhVWDXIRsMweEQASJW49/gT2RXYM3bYFD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,867,1392163200"; d="scan'208";a="326079973" Received: from alln-core-5.cisco.com ([173.36.13.138]) by rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 May 2014 15:06:45 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com [173.36.12.88]) by alln-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s4JF6jTC029721 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 19 May 2014 15:06:45 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x08.cisco.com ([169.254.8.59]) by xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com ([173.36.12.88]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Mon, 19 May 2014 10:06:45 -0500 From: "Morteza Ansari (moransar)" To: Claudio Allocchio , "appsdir@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IANA consideration help Thread-Index: AQHPcWVao62q2p82pE+gCTcG3w2EBJtFQKaAgAKi9YA= Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 15:06:44 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.1.140326 x-originating-ip: [171.68.21.50] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <513EE0691C1A2442948C25B92C3EAAA9@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/appsdir/WILzhqgYi7JHB-g1uO6MaBT91xw X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 19 May 2014 23:34:53 -0700 Cc: Leif Johansson Subject: Re: [appsdir] IANA consideration help X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 15:07:19 -0000 Thanks Claudio. There are two documents: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/scim/draft-ietf-scim-core-schema/ http://tools.ietf.org/wg/scim/draft-ietf-scim-api/ However, I don=B9t think they are quite ready for review. The editors had = a few questions about IANA consideration and wanted to get a contact to ask for some suggestion/advise. If AppsDir@ietf.org is the right place to ask for advise, I can certainly point them to that. Cheers, Morteza On 5/17/14, 8:51 AM, "Claudio Allocchio" wrote: > >Hello Morteza, > >On Sat, 17 May 2014, Morteza Ansari (moransar) wrote: > >> Hi Claudio, >> >> Barry suggested I ping you and ask for someone to help us with the >> review of the IANA consideration for the SCIM documents. In discussion >> regarding this a few questions came up and we could use some help in >> better understanding a few key points and then get help with the review >> of the text. Thanks for your help. > >sure! > >I guess the best way to do this is to ask a review to the AppsDir folks, >which I already copy in here. > >Do you have a specific list of drafts already? thus we do not forget some? > >best! >> >> >> Cheers, >> Morteza >> > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- >Claudio Allocchio G A R R >Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it > Senior Technical Officer >tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=3DClaudio; >S=3DAllocchio; >fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=3Dgarr; A=3Dgarr; C= =3Dit; > > PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From nobody Tue May 20 10:08:16 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590311A0226 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 10:08:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.278 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.278 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cIg6B6bzoXdV for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 10:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-x236.google.com (mail-vc0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11F961A01A5 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 10:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id la4so1013052vcb.27 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 10:08:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YZBvrpMeL3oM+x0fm6j7J3wwkhPDseTFPwZUGRNpoTo=; b=Y/06GG/MdYxYA7Sm4skpAccOMKcZkF9d4BgC2Rgen1C2dJoeCh3Zt8nhL4jVzBM3c4 AaItttOGGQvWzo9/pYr5fAdFZJFzHPyW/4s93uHFbAKMXlCZjshtQUAXkLGhBEdCz1Vi jTy4cQDoZjW/1jYY9MCCF4DfTnXfBsAnAaCSIZvdcY/t8nvXK/wzp3mgIfX0BYMf3fBc 0Pgn3la2YCMdJE+vpVA5YE6OJ0ECUmpXnMZqN1e/6qADvh2a6hZR9zsXEn9HkQCwhBnV Ps1VNV6RyEn0+wacmRPtQPD+PDuEYaluK8VFRaBakWzpcfe+Esb55y+WI4HuK5sSTPZl zEJQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.134.202 with SMTP id pm10mr1632996vdb.55.1400605691836; Tue, 20 May 2014 10:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.33.199 with HTTP; Tue, 20 May 2014 10:08:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 13:08:11 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: GScn8oimhLHi5LYLWaCPFlEMOPw Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: "Morteza Ansari (moransar)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/appsdir/bbypCZ4Afd9lqce77wgoEbc7e-A Cc: Leif Johansson , "appsdir@ietf.org" , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] IANA consideration help X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 17:08:14 -0000 > However, I don't think they are quite ready for review. The editors had a > few questions about IANA consideration and wanted to get a contact to ask > for some suggestion/advise. If AppsDir@ietf.org is the right place to ask > for advise, I can certainly point them to that. For now, let me give a couple of comments that come from a quick look (feel free to send this to the authors and/or post it to the scim mailing list): > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/scim/draft-ietf-scim-api/ This registers a media type, and so it's important to post a review request to the media-types list: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/media-types Doing that sooner is better than doing it later. I note that the document is using an old template, rather than the one from RFC 6838. Apart from the unnecessary first two lines ("To" and "Subject"), the substantive difference is that you need to add "Fragment identifier considerations" to the template. > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/scim/draft-ietf-scim-core-schema/ Expect to get strong pushback from me on the registration policy in Section 14.1.1. Yes, I know this was copied from somewhere else; I can tell. Don't assume that what was used in some other RFC is either good or appropriate for SCIM. Registration of new schemas MUST be reviewed by the designated expert and published in an RFC. A Standards Track RFC is REQUIRED for the registration of new value data types that modify existing properties. A Standards Track RFC is also REQUIRED for registration of SCIM schema URIs that modify SCIM schema previously documented in a Standards Track RFC. You have, essentially, Specification Required specified, without saying it. Then beyond that you (1) require that the specification be an RFC, and (2) that it be a Standards Track RFC in certain rather vaguely specified cases. Why? Why is Specification Required not right? Why can we not rely on the Designated Expert, and instead say that we have to have the entire IETF community review it? Why do we require an RFC, rather than allowing, say, some other SDO to publish a spec and register it? (Note that this is asking for discussion: I'm not saying that what's there is wrong; I'm asking questions that are intended to start a discussion, and the result of that discussion will be what belongs here in this policy.) Then in the next paragraph, I can see where the text was copied from, because it still says . Let me say that vcarddav is a particularly bad example to copy from: we've already regretted painting ourselves into the Standards Track corner there. Please don't make the same mistake. Remember that the goal is to make it easy to register reasonable things, and to strongly encourage the registration of them... while having some sort of review that at least checks that what's being registered is reasonable. Very strict registration policies are needed when you have limited code points (16 bits to dole out), or when some stupid idea will cause a lot of damage. In most cases, we don't need that. You should also pull out the details of what IANA does, how to appeal decisions, and such -- let normal policies work. Instead, directions to the Designated Expert about what she should be looking at are very important. Assume that five years from now, someone who wasn't around now is appointed as a DE, and that expert needs to have guidance. What criteria merit a "no"? Is the review just a sanity check, or is something more rigorous expected? In Section 14.1.2 you have the registration template, and you've already said, "An RFC specifying new schema URI MUST include the completed registration templates." Yet the initial registrations here don't. They should: each section from 6 thru 11 should include the registration template for its schema. The registration template has 'Intended or Associated Resource Type: A value defining the resource type (e.g. "Device").' OK, "Device" is an example of what can be here... but can this be anything at all? Can I put "Frobozz" or "Banana" here? If so, you should say so. If not, you should say the sort of thing that's expected. Do you want this to be a choice from a set of strings, such that a separate registry for these should be created? Bary From nobody Wed May 21 01:25:32 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10BD21A0835 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:25:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.127 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.127 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qmpnsM69xMVO for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FBF71A028F for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 10:25:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@dhcp-c101a41d.ucd.ie To: appsdir@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1400660718; bh=+Xhv63jGFH9+Od4qo7vSx5R4dDDGK4oADZIqXIDELHo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=fSXS4s2AMNT3uWLLTE+DrOdqKzhNMD9z1U0RD4WRwsnqUnRpngHQ20m11TjIfX6gR xt6xPVHKzKiP2Lua8gbIlwgAIiOCplkdVKwu+McwZ/OujYPdTr+MUCYQr8EryKvbuD s06dIa+ik25xqtmf2fVgN1eueb2PZryXVWBWBRxs= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/appsdir/kM-WV82NKQexMAFrYj4BnPkGPOM Subject: [appsdir] trac.tools.ietf.org down ? X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 08:25:28 -0000 Hi all, Am I the only one who cannot access any of the pages hosted on http://trac.tools.ietf.org like our directorate wiki(s) etc (but also other wikis are unreachable...) I can't get there either v4 or v6... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From nobody Wed May 21 01:28:59 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4211A029E for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:28:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QncLvw6HxcIu for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9133A1A028F for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([93.217.78.232]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MaJPk-1WTAek325Y-00JpQ9; Wed, 21 May 2014 10:28:38 +0200 Message-ID: <537C63B0.80505@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 10:28:32 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Claudio Allocchio , appsdir@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:6XDjpaFrgt2u2SLwp6xL7y2UWzq7CX+f9PO82JvvVU5A/4UrXJE m/gOwQCiQS2ihebRoPwCLzBz+qB/H1RwcYwyfRcnprscLbeDzDcKOZZp62VA8GoWrq/HCWm FiYE5rRr2hU2JJsMVw2qC9tR0BEXT+/8pHWPj2j2Vt42V5XkELcoFWxwjiusIYtW9VkUz3k gLYZVDa7lZoS00R1Dmxjg== Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/appsdir/HImaixtKDs1nAJy-C6DsKJTtGCY Subject: Re: [appsdir] trac.tools.ietf.org down ? X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 08:28:57 -0000 On 2014-05-21 10:25, Claudio Allocchio wrote: > > Hi all, > > Am I the only one who cannot access any of the pages hosted on > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org > > like our directorate wiki(s) etc (but also other wikis are unreachable...) > > I can't get there either v4 or v6... Same here. Best regards, Julian From nobody Wed May 21 01:29:54 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302951A0829 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:29:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89rOO2KXfdu6 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06D5A1A028F for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:29:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s4L8Shvo007886; Wed, 21 May 2014 10:28:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.217.145] (p5489355A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.137.53.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38FDD1C21; Wed, 21 May 2014 10:28:42 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 10:28:39 +0200 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 422353719.538597-65e03abf060fee3a81d35f8a3c7ed072 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5D13795A-AEF2-4609-A4DA-8D82345131E3@tzi.org> References: To: Claudio Allocchio X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/appsdir/PJnsTC61WK2ISNmcMTFTB4Wp3Zs Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] trac.tools.ietf.org down ? X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 08:29:52 -0000 On 21 May 2014, at 10:25, Claudio Allocchio = wrote: > http://trac.tools.ietf.org http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/trac.tools.ietf.org "It's not just you! http://trac.tools.ietf.org looks down from here.=94 (And from here, too.) Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten From nobody Wed May 21 01:35:02 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587741A0742 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:35:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.441 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.441 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oUmrzFXH2nw5 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324D71A029E for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.153.171]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s4L8Wqd4005513 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 May 2014 01:33:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1400661185; bh=aefyoegTYn/S0IT4lSzEeq3BWV2KyI2V8IG1ykBYJhk=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=vVDDcvjawlSwVA5TrDySCsB8aUOIsOr8rdnaKARwagCFCyg2g52BFZKiuOzQlNq14 mime8X/GvBtC+cFiqKEcwxoPhafudxXls9y1XMZdcFYpAD/Su9k5wHRyRDdPimFnB8 GrzKudn8rfHY+ZHhrMlEZcnKycGpHYxkI+hFMbzk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1400661185; i=@elandsys.com; bh=aefyoegTYn/S0IT4lSzEeq3BWV2KyI2V8IG1ykBYJhk=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=u3Xde5k5ODeJj2EyMc7EeYKpgZc92F0zA1NIvrT7g6zWh6Kkdj416ymX2tkT2GsKX YcADSHs5jPkxOKUo0mLKqaqxEEMzyUi6QVu8O1A/EfHgVA6jLiGq43BCfB0HNVPWa0 o/zC84B//50/TPewHxD3ud6gzwB2a1O1IqmOAUUM= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20140521012911.0b870e40@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 01:32:09 -0700 To: Claudio Allocchio , appsdir@ietf.org From: S Moonesamy In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/appsdir/woN7nT1_hEWIQIHmtOcDiXycWbo Cc: Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [appsdir] trac.tools.ietf.org down ? X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 08:35:01 -0000 Hi Claudio, [Cc to Henrik] At 01:25 21-05-2014, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >Am I the only one who cannot access any of the pages hosted on > >http://trac.tools.ietf.org > >like our directorate wiki(s) etc (but also other wikis are unreachable...) It's down: * About to connect() to trac.tools.ietf.org port 80 (#0) * Trying 2a01:3f0:1:2::30... * Trying 77.72.230.30... Best regards, -sm From nobody Wed May 21 01:41:12 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7637C1A031F for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:41:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.772 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.772 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s0TDRZgS9qXi for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69A8D1A0214 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 01:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 10:40:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@dhcp-c101a41d.ucd.ie To: S Moonesamy In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20140521012911.0b870e40@elandnews.com> Message-ID: References: <6.2.5.6.2.20140521012911.0b870e40@elandnews.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1400661650; bh=e6pXb5JANCXT5hy8rZEA77bIamfaH7LMOyIGekT168I=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=RCkMkH24/MhPBAqK5ChvuToSrjgymIbrMfZvtI2R/Lq5QX231VgRQfPrreCxOSs/i W5Y2Gep7nuJ2VX5DT3uzrdROvn19ZBUa5CcOlHfcDOckEgqG1ST6v5681WsWQvb+lB NQY2n7vpL8ELcj45KRaBQo17tL69xAD1qBugI0lc= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/appsdir/HiAJZN_LnKVCExu7D2LzoDS_M3g Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, Claudio Allocchio , Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [appsdir] trac.tools.ietf.org down ? X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 08:41:11 -0000 On Wed, 21 May 2014, S Moonesamy wrote: > Hi Claudio, > > [Cc to Henrik] > > At 01:25 21-05-2014, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >> Am I the only one who cannot access any of the pages hosted on >> >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org >> >> like our directorate wiki(s) etc (but also other wikis are unreachable...) > > It's down: > > * About to connect() to trac.tools.ietf.org port 80 (#0) > * Trying 2a01:3f0:1:2::30... > * Trying 77.72.230.30... yes... thanks all for confirming. :-) let's wait for it to come up again, thus I can post recent reviews and updates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From nobody Wed May 21 06:15:42 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093611A067C for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 06:15:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.772 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.772 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2_G8jAtT1dWP for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 06:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 897971A0675 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 06:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 15:15:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@dhcp-c101a41d.ucd.ie To: Henrik Levkowetz In-Reply-To: <537CA109.5050503@levkowetz.com> Message-ID: References: <6.2.5.6.2.20140521012911.0b870e40@elandnews.com> <537CA109.5050503@levkowetz.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1400678116; bh=d3asrXCIZduM0bT8v2QHJtW2mJYoOY4ybDSpycOW+Yg=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=FWm4N30y3+MNt49S6rsF/vhop835VpbStl9d54S2NrNhyceGti+370Eh3zVJaK5eO Tz1J6qWeYX9QK/+E+9oxqy9fxLsNyJQLcaTt6F6NbBkUWeBIpi5XnMd2zVCZbuswI6 Fp4HB6psiYRQa3ks/Naz+BfFdzbyma3/OTTd2uAs= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/appsdir/julpX99hPtEZ9bE8gQ7oHj1sZL4 Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, S Moonesamy , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] trac.tools.ietf.org down ? X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 13:15:41 -0000 On Wed, 21 May 2014, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi, > > The server ran into a broken file system, and fsck didn't manage to > fix it. I've moved trac and svn to another server, they should be > up now. yes, they are! many thanks Henrik! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From nobody Wed May 21 07:25:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2C51A0679 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 05:50:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.045 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.045 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.793, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sKE32SPUMVrQ for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 05:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 233C91A0675 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 05:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tannat.netnod.se ([77.72.226.96]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wn5yQ-0006qw-OG; Wed, 21 May 2014 05:50:22 -0700 Message-ID: <537CA109.5050503@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 14:50:17 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: S Moonesamy , Claudio Allocchio , appsdir@ietf.org References: <6.2.5.6.2.20140521012911.0b870e40@elandnews.com> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20140521012911.0b870e40@elandnews.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 77.72.226.96 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/appsdir/33iFry8siP9wrV65qAbn1q3co8Y X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 21 May 2014 07:25:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [appsdir] trac.tools.ietf.org down ? X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 12:50:38 -0000 Hi, The server ran into a broken file system, and fsck didn't manage to fix it. I've moved trac and svn to another server, they should be up now. Best regards, Henrik On 2014-05-21 10:32 S Moonesamy said: > Hi Claudio, > > [Cc to Henrik] > > At 01:25 21-05-2014, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >> Am I the only one who cannot access any of the pages hosted on >> >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org >> >> like our directorate wiki(s) etc (but also other wikis are unreachable...) > > It's down: > > * About to connect() to trac.tools.ietf.org port 80 (#0) > * Trying 2a01:3f0:1:2::30... > * Trying 77.72.230.30... > > Best regards, > -sm > >