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Greetings everyone!

I'm doing a bit of list management, so that the list reflects roughly
what's on the web page.  Here's what I've come up with.  In particular
if you find your name in the "To be removed" list, and do not wish to be
removed, I would be happy to have you continue as a reviewer.

For everyone else, please have a look at the wiki page
<http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorat=
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and update information about yourself.

Finally, I'll just ask you all to spread the word.  We could use a few
more reviewers, particularly in some key areas like JSON.

To be added:

  * Allison Mankin

To be removed:

  * Aaron Stone
  * James Cloos
  * Lisa Dusseault
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    Greetings everyone!<br>
    <br>
    I'm doing a bit of list management, so that the list reflects
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    particular if you find your name in the "To be removed" list, and do
    not wish to be removed, I would be happy to have you continue as a
    reviewer.<br>
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    For everyone else, please have a look at the <a
href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDir=
ectorate?action=3Dhistory">wiki
      page</a> and update information about yourself.<br>
    <br>
    Finally, I'll just ask you all to spread the word.=C2=A0 We could use=
 a
    few more reviewers, particularly in some key areas like JSON.<br>
    <br>
    To be added:<br>
    <ul>
      <li>Allison Mankin</li>
    </ul>
    To be removed:<br>
    <ul>
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Hi everyone,

For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was apps
reviews.  We would like to try an experiment, which is to both identify
the skills needed for a proper review and a reviewer early in the life
cycle of a working group draft.  What follows is a list of recently
published -00 working group drafts.  I wonder if people could volunteer
to just quickly scan one of the following drafts, and email back to the
group only the following information:

  * The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)
  * A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)
  * The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the review.=20
    To get a feel for what people have listed, just go to our favorite
    little wiki
    <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirect=
orate>
    and look in the expertise column.

Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when you've
done.  If it takes you more than 10 minutes, something's probably gone
wrong.

Here's the list:

    draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt
    draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-00.txt
    draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-pe-ce-00.txt
    draft-ietf-calext-availability-00.txt
    draft-ietf-calext-extensions-00.txt
    draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt
    draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt
    draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt
    draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt
    draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt
    draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt
    draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt
    draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt
    draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt
    draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt

I'm going to pull the first one of the top as an example:

Name: draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt
How much time attention it needs: not a lot.  It's a short draft that
mostly builds on the earlier PIE work.
What type of skills needed: "transporty" interactions with applications.


And I'll take it from there to find a reviewer.  What happens next is
that I'll assign a reviewer.  The idea is to find problems earlier
rather later.

Thanks very much in advance!

Eliot


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    Hi everyone,<br>
    <br>
    For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was
    apps reviews.=C2=A0 We would like to try an experiment, which is to b=
oth
    identify the skills needed for a proper review and a reviewer early
    in the life cycle of a working group draft.=C2=A0 What follows is a l=
ist
    of recently published -00 working group drafts.=C2=A0 I wonder if peo=
ple
    could volunteer to just quickly scan one of the following drafts,
    and email back to the group only the following information:<br>
    <ul>
      <li>The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)</li>
      <li>A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)<br>
      </li>
      <li>The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the
        review.=C2=A0 To get a feel for what people have listed, just go =
to
        our favorite little <a
href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDir=
ectorate">wiki</a>
        and look in the expertise column.</li>
    </ul>
    <p>Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when
      you've done.=C2=A0 If it takes you more than 10 minutes, something'=
s
      probably gone wrong.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Here's the list:<br>
    </p>
    <blockquote>
      <p>draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-pe-ce-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-calext-availability-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-calext-extensions-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt<br>
      </p>
    </blockquote>
    <p>I'm going to pull the first one of the top as an example:<br>
    </p>
    <p>Name: draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt<br>
      How much time attention it needs: not a lot.=C2=A0 It's a short dra=
ft
      that mostly builds on the earlier PIE work.<br>
      What type of skills needed: "transporty" interactions with
      applications.<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
      And I'll take it from there to find a reviewer.=C2=A0 What happens =
next
      is that I'll assign a reviewer.=C2=A0 The idea is to find problems
      earlier rather later.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Thanks very much in advance!<br>
    </p>
    <p>Eliot<br>
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Hi Eliot,

I'll volunteer to scan the two tokbind drafts.

Ted

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:

>  Hi everyone,
>
> For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was apps
> reviews.  We would like to try an experiment, which is to both identify the
> skills needed for a proper review and a reviewer early in the life cycle of
> a working group draft.  What follows is a list of recently published -00
> working group drafts.  I wonder if people could volunteer to just quickly
> scan one of the following drafts, and email back to the group only the
> following information:
>
>    - The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)
>    - A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)
>     - The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the review.
>    To get a feel for what people have listed, just go to our favorite little
>    wiki
>    <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate>
>    and look in the expertise column.
>
> Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when you've
> done.  If it takes you more than 10 minutes, something's probably gone
> wrong.
>
> Here's the list:
>
> draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt
> draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-00.txt
> draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-pe-ce-00.txt
> draft-ietf-calext-availability-00.txt
> draft-ietf-calext-extensions-00.txt
> draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt
> draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt
> draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt
> draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt
> draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt
> draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt
> draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt
> draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt
> draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt
> draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt
>
> I'm going to pull the first one of the top as an example:
>
> Name: draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt
> How much time attention it needs: not a lot.  It's a short draft that
> mostly builds on the earlier PIE work.
> What type of skills needed: "transporty" interactions with applications.
>
>
> And I'll take it from there to find a reviewer.  What happens next is that
> I'll assign a reviewer.  The idea is to find problems earlier rather later.
>
> Thanks very much in advance!
>
> Eliot
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Eliot,<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">I&#39;ll volunt=
eer to scan the two tokbind drafts.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Ted<br></div></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7,=
 2015 at 8:20 AM, Eliot Lear <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lear@c=
isco.com" target=3D"_blank">lear@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex">
 =20

   =20
 =20
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    Hi everyone,<br>
    <br>
    For those of you who weren&#39;t at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was
    apps reviews.=C2=A0 We would like to try an experiment, which is to bot=
h
    identify the skills needed for a proper review and a reviewer early
    in the life cycle of a working group draft.=C2=A0 What follows is a lis=
t
    of recently published -00 working group drafts.=C2=A0 I wonder if peopl=
e
    could volunteer to just quickly scan one of the following drafts,
    and email back to the group only the following information:<br>
    <ul>
      <li>The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)</li>
      <li>A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)<br>
      </li>
      <li>The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the
        review.=C2=A0 To get a feel for what people have listed, just go to
        our favorite little <a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/=
trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate" target=3D"_blank">wiki</a>
        and look in the expertise column.</li>
    </ul>
    <p>Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when
      you&#39;ve done.=C2=A0 If it takes you more than 10 minutes, somethin=
g&#39;s
      probably gone wrong.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Here&#39;s the list:<br>
    </p>
    <blockquote>
      <p>draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-pe-ce-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-calext-availability-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-calext-extensions-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt<br>
      </p>
    </blockquote>
    <p>I&#39;m going to pull the first one of the top as an example:<br>
    </p>
    <p>Name: draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt<br>
      How much time attention it needs: not a lot.=C2=A0 It&#39;s a short d=
raft
      that mostly builds on the earlier PIE work.<br>
      What type of skills needed: &quot;transporty&quot; interactions with
      applications.<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
      And I&#39;ll take it from there to find a reviewer.=C2=A0 What happen=
s next
      is that I&#39;ll assign a reviewer.=C2=A0 The idea is to find problem=
s
      earlier rather later.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Thanks very much in advance!<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#8=
88888"><br>
    </font></span></p><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
    <p>Eliot<br>
    </p>
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Thank you, Ted!

Eliot



On 4/7/15 5:03 PM, Ted Hardie wrote:
> Hi Eliot,
>
> I'll volunteer to scan the two tokbind drafts.
>
> Ted
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com
> <mailto:lear@cisco.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi everyone,
>
>     For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was
>     apps reviews.  We would like to try an experiment, which is to
>     both identify the skills needed for a proper review and a reviewer
>     early in the life cycle of a working group draft.  What follows is
>     a list of recently published -00 working group drafts.  I wonder
>     if people could volunteer to just quickly scan one of the
>     following drafts, and email back to the group only the following
>     information:
>
>       * The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)
>       * A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)
>       * The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the
>         review.  To get a feel for what people have listed, just go to
>         our favorite little wiki
>         <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsArea=
Directorate>
>         and look in the expertise column.
>
>     Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when
>     you've done.  If it takes you more than 10 minutes, something's
>     probably gone wrong.
>
>     Here's the list:
>
>         draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-pe-ce-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-calext-availability-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-calext-extensions-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt
>
>     I'm going to pull the first one of the top as an example:
>
>     Name: draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt
>     How much time attention it needs: not a lot.  It's a short draft
>     that mostly builds on the earlier PIE work.
>     What type of skills needed: "transporty" interactions with
>     applications.
>
>
>     And I'll take it from there to find a reviewer.  What happens next
>     is that I'll assign a reviewer.  The idea is to find problems
>     earlier rather later.
>
>     Thanks very much in advance!
>
>     Eliot
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
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    Thank you, Ted!<br>
    <br>
    Eliot<br>
    <br>
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    <br>
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          Eliot,<br>
          <br>
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        <div class=3D"gmail_default"
          style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">I'll
          volunteer to scan the two tokbind drafts.<br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default"
          style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Ted<br>=

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      <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Eliot
          Lear <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
              href=3D"mailto:lear@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">lear@cisco=
=2Ecom</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"> Hi everyone,<br>
              <br>
              For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one
              topic was apps reviews.=C2=A0 We would like to try an
              experiment, which is to both identify the skills needed
              for a proper review and a reviewer early in the life cycle
              of a working group draft.=C2=A0 What follows is a list of
              recently published -00 working group drafts.=C2=A0 I wonder=
 if
              people could volunteer to just quickly scan one of the
              following drafts, and email back to the group only the
              following information:<br>
              <ul>
                <li>The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)</li>
                <li>A gut feel as to how much attention it will need
                  (and why)<br>
                </li>
                <li>The sorts of apps area skills required to properly
                  do the review.=C2=A0 To get a feel for what people have=

                  listed, just go to our favorite little <a
                    moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDir=
ectorate"
                    target=3D"_blank">wiki</a> and look in the expertise
                  column.</li>
              </ul>
              <p>Just pick one draft off the list below and send it
                round when you've done.=C2=A0 If it takes you more than 1=
0
                minutes, something's probably gone wrong.<br>
              </p>
              <p>Here's the list:<br>
              </p>
              <blockquote>
                <p>draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-pe-ce-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-calext-availability-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-calext-extensions-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt<br>
                  draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt<br>
                </p>
              </blockquote>
              <p>I'm going to pull the first one of the top as an
                example:<br>
              </p>
              <p>Name: draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt<br>
                How much time attention it needs: not a lot.=C2=A0 It's a=

                short draft that mostly builds on the earlier PIE work.<b=
r>
                What type of skills needed: "transporty" interactions
                with applications.<br>
              </p>
              <p><br>
                And I'll take it from there to find a reviewer.=C2=A0 Wha=
t
                happens next is that I'll assign a reviewer.=C2=A0 The id=
ea
                is to find problems earlier rather later.<br>
              </p>
              <p>Thanks very much in advance!<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font=

                    color=3D"#888888"><br>
                  </font></span></p>
              <span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
                  <p>Eliot<br>
                  </p>
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draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol will need significant attention, especially
from folks with application security, privacy,  and web services
backgrounds.  Though the draft isn't very long, it describes a general
method of binding application security tokens to a channel and reusing them
with a server as well as methods for taking those issued by one server and
using them elsewhere.  The interaction between the binding and application
semantics will likely be a focus of reviews, as would be the privacy
implication of a long-lived token of this type (though the draft presumes
the ability to clear state, it's not at all clear that this would be
available to mobile apps or similar).

draft-ietf-tokbind-https will need a similar amount of attention,
especially from folks familiar with HTTP semantics (headers and status code
semantics being two areas of concern).  In essence, this is the worked
example of the protocol, embodied in HTTP.

regards,

Ted

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol will need significan=
t attention, especially from folks with application security, privacy,=C2=
=A0 and web services backgrounds.=C2=A0 Though the draft isn&#39;t very lon=
g, it describes a general method of binding application security tokens to =
a channel and reusing them with a server as well as methods for taking thos=
e issued by one server and using them elsewhere.=C2=A0 The interaction betw=
een the binding and application semantics will likely be a focus of reviews=
, as would be the privacy implication of a long-lived token of this type (t=
hough the draft presumes the ability to clear state, it&#39;s not at all cl=
ear that this would be available to mobile apps or similar).<br><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">draft-ietf-tokbind-https will need a similar amount of attention, =
especially from folks familiar with HTTP semantics (headers and status code=
 semantics being two areas of concern).=C2=A0 In essence, this is the worke=
d example of the protocol, embodied in HTTP.=C2=A0 <br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:small">regards,<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
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On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:

>  For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was apps
> reviews.  We would like to try an experiment, which is to both identify the
> skills needed for a proper review and a reviewer early in the life cycle of
> a working group draft.  What follows is a list of recently published -00
> working group drafts.  I wonder if people could volunteer to just quickly
> scan one of the following drafts, and email back to the group only the
> following information:
>
>    - The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)
>    - A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)
>     - The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the review.
>    To get a feel for what people have listed, just go to our favorite little
>    wiki
>    <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate>
>    and look in the expertise column.
>
> Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when you've
> done.  If it takes you more than 10 minutes, something's probably gone
> wrong.
>

I'll take draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.  Will send it by the
weekend.

-MSK

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Eliot Lear <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lear@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">lear@cisco.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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   =20
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    For those of you who weren&#39;t at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was
    apps reviews.=C2=A0 We would like to try an experiment, which is to bot=
h
    identify the skills needed for a proper review and a reviewer early
    in the life cycle of a working group draft.=C2=A0 What follows is a lis=
t
    of recently published -00 working group drafts.=C2=A0 I wonder if peopl=
e
    could volunteer to just quickly scan one of the following drafts,
    and email back to the group only the following information:<br>
    <ul>
      <li>The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)</li>
      <li>A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)<br>
      </li>
      <li>The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the
        review.=C2=A0 To get a feel for what people have listed, just go to
        our favorite little <a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/=
trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate" target=3D"_blank">wiki</a>
        and look in the expertise column.</li>
    </ul>
    <p>Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when
      you&#39;ve done.=C2=A0 If it takes you more than 10 minutes, somethin=
g&#39;s
      probably gone wrong.<br></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I&=
#39;ll take draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.=C2=A0 Will send it by th=
e weekend.<br><br></div><div>-MSK<br></div></div></div></div>

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FYI, I've been paying attention to these.  They certainly need a lot
of attention.  I have suggested several changes that - if they are
accepted - will completely change the structure of the two drafts.
One of those proposed changes is a merge of the drafts.  The authors
have accepted the need to change the negotiation portion in -protocol
entirely.

Attention is definitely warranted, but some delay might avoid some churn.

On 7 April 2015 at 17:15, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol will need significant attention, especially from
> folks with application security, privacy,  and web services backgrounds.
> Though the draft isn't very long, it describes a general method of binding
> application security tokens to a channel and reusing them with a server as
> well as methods for taking those issued by one server and using them
> elsewhere.  The interaction between the binding and application semantics
> will likely be a focus of reviews, as would be the privacy implication of a
> long-lived token of this type (though the draft presumes the ability to
> clear state, it's not at all clear that this would be available to mobile
> apps or similar).
>
> draft-ietf-tokbind-https will need a similar amount of attention, especially
> from folks familiar with HTTP semantics (headers and status code semantics
> being two areas of concern).  In essence, this is the worked example of the
> protocol, embodied in HTTP.
>
> regards,
>
> Ted
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Thank you both.  I will work with the reviewer on timing based on your
advice, Martin.

Eliot

On 4/8/15 6:38 PM, Martin Thomson wrote:
> FYI, I've been paying attention to these.  They certainly need a lot
> of attention.  I have suggested several changes that - if they are
> accepted - will completely change the structure of the two drafts.
> One of those proposed changes is a merge of the drafts.  The authors
> have accepted the need to change the negotiation portion in -protocol
> entirely.
>
> Attention is definitely warranted, but some delay might avoid some chur=
n.
>
> On 7 April 2015 at 17:15, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>> draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol will need significant attention, especiall=
y from
>> folks with application security, privacy,  and web services background=
s.
>> Though the draft isn't very long, it describes a general method of bin=
ding
>> application security tokens to a channel and reusing them with a serve=
r as
>> well as methods for taking those issued by one server and using them
>> elsewhere.  The interaction between the binding and application semant=
ics
>> will likely be a focus of reviews, as would be the privacy implication=
 of a
>> long-lived token of this type (though the draft presumes the ability t=
o
>> clear state, it's not at all clear that this would be available to mob=
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>> apps or similar).
>>
>> draft-ietf-tokbind-https will need a similar amount of attention, espe=
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>> from folks familiar with HTTP semantics (headers and status code seman=
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f the
>> protocol, embodied in HTTP.
>>
>> regards,
>>
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not sure if someone already volunteered for it
if not I will take

draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt

br
Salvatore

On 07 Apr 2015, at 16:20, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com<mailto:lear@cisco.com>=
> wrote:

Hi everyone,

For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was apps revi=
ews.  We would like to try an experiment, which is to both identify the ski=
lls needed for a proper review and a reviewer early in the life cycle of a =
working group draft.  What follows is a list of recently published -00 work=
ing group drafts.  I wonder if people could volunteer to just quickly scan =
one of the following drafts, and email back to the group only the following=
 information:

  *   The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)
  *   A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)
  *   The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the review.  To=
 get a feel for what people have listed, just go to our favorite little wik=
i<http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate=
> and look in the expertise column.

Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when you've done. =
 If it takes you more than 10 minutes, something's probably gone wrong.

Here's the list:

draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt
draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-00.txt
draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-pe-ce-00.txt
draft-ietf-calext-availability-00.txt
draft-ietf-calext-extensions-00.txt
draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt
draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt
draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt
draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt
draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt
draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt
draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt
draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt
draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt
draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt

I'm going to pull the first one of the top as an example:

Name: draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt
How much time attention it needs: not a lot.  It's a short draft that mostl=
y builds on the earlier PIE work.
What type of skills needed: "transporty" interactions with applications.

And I'll take it from there to find a reviewer.  What happens next is that =
I'll assign a reviewer.  The idea is to find problems earlier rather later.

Thanks very much in advance!

Eliot

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<div class=3D"">On 07 Apr 2015, at 16:20, Eliot Lear &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
lear@cisco.com" class=3D"">lear@cisco.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
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<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000" class=3D"">Hi everyone,<br class=
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<br class=3D"">
For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was apps revi=
ews.&nbsp; We would like to try an experiment, which is to both identify th=
e skills needed for a proper review and a reviewer early in the life cycle =
of a working group draft.&nbsp; What follows
 is a list of recently published -00 working group drafts.&nbsp; I wonder i=
f people could volunteer to just quickly scan one of the following drafts, =
and email back to the group only the following information:<br class=3D"">
<ul class=3D"">
<li class=3D"">The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt) </li><li class=
=3D"">A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)<br class=
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</li><li class=3D"">The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do t=
he review.&nbsp; To get a feel for what people have listed, just go to our =
favorite little
<a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDi=
rectorate" class=3D"">
wiki</a> and look in the expertise column. </li></ul>
<p class=3D"">Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when=
 you've done.&nbsp; If it takes you more than 10 minutes, something's proba=
bly gone wrong.<br class=3D"">
</p>
<p class=3D"">Here's the list:<br class=3D"">
</p>
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<p class=3D"">draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-pe-ce-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-calext-availability-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-calext-extensions-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt<br class=3D"">
draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt<br class=3D"">
</p>
</blockquote>
<p class=3D"">I'm going to pull the first one of the top as an example:<br =
class=3D"">
</p>
<p class=3D"">Name: draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt<br class=3D"">
How much time attention it needs: not a lot.&nbsp; It's a short draft that =
mostly builds on the earlier PIE work.<br class=3D"">
What type of skills needed: &quot;transporty&quot; interactions with applic=
ations.<br class=3D"">
</p>
<p class=3D""><br class=3D"">
And I'll take it from there to find a reviewer.&nbsp; What happens next is =
that I'll assign a reviewer.&nbsp; The idea is to find problems earlier rat=
her later.<br class=3D"">
</p>
<p class=3D"">Thanks very much in advance!<br class=3D"">
</p>
<p class=3D"">Eliot<br class=3D"">
</p>
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Oops, I actually scanned the draft out last night, but got to writing the e=
mail just now.
A disclaimer: I didn't participate in the STRAW work and I read the draft f=
or the first time... ;-)
Cheers,
Orit.

From: appsdir [mailto:appsdir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Salvatore Lore=
to
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 6:53 AM
To: Eliot Lear
Cc: Mankin, Allison; appsdir@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [appsdir] Initial App Area reviews needed

not sure if someone already volunteered for it
if not I will take

draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt

br
Salvatore

On 07 Apr 2015, at 16:20, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com<mailto:lear@cisco.com>=
> wrote:

Hi everyone,

For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was apps revi=
ews.  We would like to try an experiment, which is to both identify the ski=
lls needed for a proper review and a reviewer early in the life cycle of a =
working group draft.  What follows is a list of recently published -00 work=
ing group drafts.  I wonder if people could volunteer to just quickly scan =
one of the following drafts, and email back to the group only the following=
 information:

  *   The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)
  *   A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)
  *   The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the review.  To=
 get a feel for what people have listed, just go to our favorite little wik=
i<http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate=
> and look in the expertise column.
Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when you've done. =
 If it takes you more than 10 minutes, something's probably gone wrong.
Here's the list:
draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt
draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-00.txt
draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-pe-ce-00.txt
draft-ietf-calext-availability-00.txt
draft-ietf-calext-extensions-00.txt
draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt
draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt
draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt
draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt
draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt
draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt
draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt
draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt
draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt
draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt
I'm going to pull the first one of the top as an example:
Name: draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt
How much time attention it needs: not a lot.  It's a short draft that mostl=
y builds on the earlier PIE work.
What type of skills needed: "transporty" interactions with applications.

And I'll take it from there to find a reviewer.  What happens next is that =
I'll assign a reviewer.  The idea is to find problems earlier rather later.
Thanks very much in advance!
Eliot
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riting the email just now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calib=
ri&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"> a=
ppsdir
 [mailto:appsdir-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Salvatore Loreto<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 10, 2015 6:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Eliot Lear<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mankin, Allison; appsdir@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [appsdir] Initial App Area reviews needed<o:p></o:p></s=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;">not sure if someone already volunteered for it&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;">if not I will take<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ew Roman&quot;;background:white">draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt</s=
pan><span style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;;background:white">Salvatore</span><span style=3D"mso-fareast=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;">On 07 Apr 2015, at 16:20, Eliot Lear &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
lear@cisco.com">lear@cisco.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;">Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was apps revi=
ews.&nbsp; We would like to try an experiment, which is to both identify th=
e skills needed for a proper review and a reviewer early in the life cycle =
of a working group draft.&nbsp; What follows
 is a list of recently published -00 working group drafts.&nbsp; I wonder i=
f people could volunteer to just quickly scan one of the following drafts, =
and email back to the group only the following information:<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
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<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in">
<span style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">The dra=
ft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:=
auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in=
">
<span style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">A gut f=
eel as to how much attention it will need (and why)<o:p></o:p></span></li><=
li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in">
<span style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">The sor=
ts of apps area skills required to properly do the review.&nbsp; To get a f=
eel for what people have listed, just go to our favorite little
<a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDi=
rectorate">
wiki</a> and look in the expertise column. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when you'=
ve done.&nbsp; If it takes you more than 10 minutes, something's probably g=
one wrong.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Here's the list:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-pe-ce-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-calext-availability-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-calext-extensions-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt<br>
draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">I'm going to pull the first one of the top as an example:<o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Name: draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt<br>
How much time attention it needs: not a lot.&nbsp; It's a short draft that =
mostly builds on the earlier PIE work.<br>
What type of skills needed: &quot;transporty&quot; interactions with applic=
ations.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><br>
And I'll take it from there to find a reviewer.&nbsp; What happens next is =
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This is a short (7 pages) draft.
The proposed status is a "Standards Track" although, in essence,  it is a l=
ist of guidelines based on mechanisms defined in existing RFCs or drafts.

The "recommendations/guidelines" are arranged in three groups - each applic=
able to a different "type" of a SIP B2B media relay:

-        media non-aware

-        media aware with header inspection only (and no payload inspection=
/modification)

-        media aware with headers modification (and no payload inspection/m=
odification)


While the use cases  behind each of the technical approaches might be well-=
known, the motivation behind "standardizing" each one separately (with a di=
fferent set of MUSTs & SHOULDs!) is not clear to me.

The Security Considerations section reads as a "placeholder" at this time, =
although the whole document is about security and privacy considerations.

Most of the Informative References need to be Normative; this is especially=
 important for rfc4474bis and jones-avtcore drafts that are in the core of =
the guidelines.

A few more specific comments:

Section 3.3 the paragraph before the last
"... MUST ensure that it does not modify any of the headers used to constru=
ct the signature." It would be helpful to actually analyze the provided ref=
erences and compile a list of headers that the relay MUST NOT modify.

Section 3.2.2
"This security and privacy problem can be addressed by ... as discussed in =
[I-D.jones-avtcore-private-media-reqts],..."
This needs to be (re)phrased as a normative statement.

Orit.

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On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:

>
>    - The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)
>    - A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)
>     - The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the review.
>    To get a feel for what people have listed, just go to our favorite lit=
tle
>    wiki
>    <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirecto=
rate>
>    and look in the expertise column.
>
> =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B
> Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when you've
> done.  If it takes you more than 10 minutes, something's probably gone
> wrong.
>
> =E2=80=8B
>
> =E2=80=8BFilenames:=E2=80=8B


> =E2=80=8B
>
>  =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B
> dr
> =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B
> aft-ietf-calext-availability-00.txt
> =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B
> dr
> =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B
> aft-ietf-calext-extensions-00.txt
>
> - =E2=80=8BI'd think someone who's qualified could do both in an afternoo=
n.
- You'd need some experience with calendaring issues and what DAV is all
about.
=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B




> draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt
> draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt
> draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt
> draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt
> draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt
> draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt
> draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt
> draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt
> draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt
> draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt
>
> I'm going to pull the first one of the top as an example:
>
> Name: draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt
> How much time attention it needs: not a lot.  It's a short draft that
> mostly builds on the earlier PIE work.
> What type of skills needed: "transporty" interactions with applications.
>
>
> And I'll take it from there to find a reviewer.  What happens next is tha=
t
> I'll assign a reviewer.  The idea is to find problems earlier rather late=
r.
>
> Thanks very much in advance!
>
> Eliot
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">On =
Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Eliot Lear <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:lear@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">lear@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:=
1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left=
:1ex">
 =20

   =20
 =20
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"><ul><li>The draft filename (dra=
ft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)</li>
      <li>A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)<br>
      </li>
      <li>The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the
        review.=C2=A0 To get a feel for what people have listed, just go to
        our favorite little <a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/=
trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate" target=3D"_blank">wiki</a>
        and look in the expertise column.</li>
    </ul>
    <p></p><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;display:in=
line">=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B</div>Just pick one draft off the list below and se=
nd it round when
      you&#39;ve done.=C2=A0 If it takes you more than 10 minutes, somethin=
g&#39;s
      probably gone wrong.<br>
    <p></p>
    <p></p><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;display:in=
line">=E2=80=8B</div><p></p></div></blockquote><div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-size:small;display:inline">=E2=80=8BFilenames:=E2=80=8B=
</div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-=
left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000=
"><p></p><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;display:inli=
ne">=E2=80=8B</div><br>
    <p></p>
    <blockquote>
      <p></p><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;display:=
inline">=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B</div>dr<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-size:small;display:inline">=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B</div>aft-ietf-calext-availa=
bility-00.txt<br>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;display:inlin=
e">=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B</div>dr<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-siz=
e:small;display:inline">=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B</div>aft-ietf-calext-extensions-=
00.txt<br><p></p></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-size:small">- =E2=80=8BI&#39;d think someone who&#39;=
s qualified could do both in an afternoon.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-size:small">- You&#39;d need some experience with calendari=
ng issues and what DAV is all about.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-size:small">=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B</div><br></div><div><br></div><div=
>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=
=3D"#000000"><blockquote><p>
        draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt<br>
        draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt<br>
      </p>
    </blockquote>
    <p>I&#39;m going to pull the first one of the top as an example:<br>
    </p>
    <p>Name: draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt<br>
      How much time attention it needs: not a lot.=C2=A0 It&#39;s a short d=
raft
      that mostly builds on the earlier PIE work.<br>
      What type of skills needed: &quot;transporty&quot; interactions with
      applications.<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
      And I&#39;ll take it from there to find a reviewer.=C2=A0 What happen=
s next
      is that I&#39;ll assign a reviewer.=C2=A0 The idea is to find problem=
s
      earlier rather later.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Thanks very much in advance!<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#8=
88888"><br>
    </font></span></p><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
    <p>Eliot<br>
    </p>
  </font></span></div>

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Hi Orit,

If you have comments please go ahead and send them along as well.  In
addition, could I hit you up for taking a look at
draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00>?=20
Again, this is just the initial scan to figure out the sorts of
expertise are involved (although i wouldn't be surprised if it was yours
in this case).

Regards,

Eliot


On 4/11/15 2:26 AM, Orit Levin (LCA) wrote:
>
> Oops, I actually scanned the draft out last night, but got to writing
> the email just now.
>
> A disclaimer: I didn=E2=80=99t participate in the STRAW work and I read=
 the
> draft for the first time=E2=80=A6 ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Orit.
>
> =20
>
> *From:*appsdir [mailto:appsdir-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Salvatore Loreto
> *Sent:* Friday, April 10, 2015 6:53 AM
> *To:* Eliot Lear
> *Cc:* Mankin, Allison; appsdir@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [appsdir] Initial App Area reviews needed
>
> =20
>
> not sure if someone already volunteered for it=20
>
> if not I will take
>
> =20
>
> draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt
>
> =20
>
> br
>
> Salvatore
>
> =20
>
>     On 07 Apr 2015, at 16:20, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com
>     <mailto:lear@cisco.com>> wrote:
>
>     =20
>
>     Hi everyone,
>
>     For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was
>     apps reviews.  We would like to try an experiment, which is to
>     both identify the skills needed for a proper review and a reviewer
>     early in the life cycle of a working group draft.  What follows is
>     a list of recently published -00 working group drafts.  I wonder
>     if people could volunteer to just quickly scan one of the
>     following drafts, and email back to the group only the following
>     information:
>
>       * The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)
>       * A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)
>       * The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the
>         review.  To get a feel for what people have listed, just go to
>         our favorite little wiki
>         <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsArea=
Directorate>
>         and look in the expertise column.
>
>     Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when
>     you've done.  If it takes you more than 10 minutes, something's
>     probably gone wrong.
>
>     Here's the list:
>
>         draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-pe-ce-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-calext-availability-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-calext-extensions-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt
>         draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt
>
>     I'm going to pull the first one of the top as an example:
>
>     Name: draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt
>     How much time attention it needs: not a lot.  It's a short draft
>     that mostly builds on the earlier PIE work.
>     What type of skills needed: "transporty" interactions with
>     applications.
>
>
>     And I'll take it from there to find a reviewer.  What happens next
>     is that I'll assign a reviewer.  The idea is to find problems
>     earlier rather later.
>
>     Thanks very much in advance!
>
>     Eliot
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     appsdir mailing list
>     appsdir@ietf.org <mailto:appsdir@ietf.org>
>     https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir
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    Hi Orit,<br>
    <br>
    If you have comments please go ahead and send them along as well.=C2=A0=

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gain,
    this is just the initial scan to figure out the sorts of expertise
    are involved (although i wouldn't be surprised if it was yours in
    this case).<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    <br>
    Eliot<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 4/11/15 2:26 AM, Orit Levin (LCA)
      wrote:<br>
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                    style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times
                    New Roman&quot;">From:</span></b><span
                  style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times
                  New Roman&quot;"> appsdir
                  [<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:apps=
dir-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:appsdir-bounces@ietf.org</a>] <b>On Behalf O=
f </b>Salvatore
                  Loreto<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 10, 2015 6:53 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Eliot Lear<br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> Mankin, Allison; <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-ab=
breviated" href=3D"mailto:appsdir@ietf.org">appsdir@ietf.org</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [appsdir] Initial App Area reviews
                  needed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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-srtp-00.txt</span><span
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                Roman&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
                      style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;">On 07 Apr 2015, at 16:20, Eliot Lear
                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"mailto:lear@cisco.com">lear@cisco.com</a>=
&gt;
                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    Roman&quot;"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
                        style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
                        Roman&quot;">Hi everyone,<br>
                        <br>
                        For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea
                        lunch, one topic was apps reviews.=C2=A0 We would=

                        like to try an experiment, which is to both
                        identify the skills needed for a proper review
                        and a reviewer early in the life cycle of a
                        working group draft.=C2=A0 What follows is a list=
 of
                        recently published -00 working group drafts.=C2=A0=
 I
                        wonder if people could volunteer to just quickly
                        scan one of the following drafts, and email back
                        to the group only the following information:<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
                    <ul type=3D"disc">
                      <li class=3D"MsoNormal"
                        style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-botto=
m-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                        level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in">
                        <span style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Time=
s
                          New Roman&quot;">The draft filename
                          (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)
                          <o:p></o:p></span></li>
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                        style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-botto=
m-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                        level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in">
                        <span style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Time=
s
                          New Roman&quot;">A gut feel as to how much
                          attention it will need (and why)<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></li>
                      <li class=3D"MsoNormal"
                        style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-botto=
m-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                        level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list .5in">
                        <span style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Time=
s
                          New Roman&quot;">The sorts of apps area skills
                          required to properly do the review.=C2=A0 To ge=
t a
                          feel for what people have listed, just go to
                          our favorite little
                          <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDir=
ectorate">wiki</a>
                          and look in the expertise column. <o:p></o:p></=
span></li>
                    </ul>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"
                      style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto">Just
                      pick one draft off the list below and send it
                      round when you've done.=C2=A0 If it takes you more =
than
                      10 minutes, something's probably gone wrong.<o:p></=
o:p></p>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"
                      style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto">Here's
                      the list:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"
                        style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-botto=
m-alt:auto">draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-pe-ce-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-calext-availability-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-calext-extensions-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-dhc-rfc3315bis-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-dime-4over6-provisioning-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-alg-agility-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-tokbind-https-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-00.txt<br>
                        draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-00.txt<o:p></o:=
p></p>
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                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"
                      style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto">I'm
                      going to pull the first one of the top as an
                      example:<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"
                      style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto">Name:
                      draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00.txt<br>
                      How much time attention it needs: not a lot.=C2=A0 =
It's
                      a short draft that mostly builds on the earlier
                      PIE work.<br>
                      What type of skills needed: "transporty"
                      interactions with applications.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"
                      style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto"><br>
                      And I'll take it from there to find a reviewer.=C2=A0=

                      What happens next is that I'll assign a reviewer.=C2=
=A0
                      The idea is to find problems earlier rather later.<=
o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"
                      style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto">Thanks
                      very much in advance!<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"
                      style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto">Eliot<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
                      style=3D"mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;">______________________________________=
_________<br>
                      <span class=3D"SpellE">appsdir</span> mailing list<=
br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"mailto:appsdir@ietf.org">appsdir@ietf.org=
</a><br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/app=
sdir">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir</a><o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
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Alexey,

Can you take on an Apps Directorate review of draft-ietf-lmap-yang-00
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lmap-yang-00>?  The initial
review indicates that model contains aspects of calendaring, something
you know a lot about.

As a reminder, the templates for reviews are at
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/template.  This is an
early review (we are moving to a model where they all are).  As such,
using the WGLC template seems best, but omitting the WGLC date.

If you can let me know by Friday whether you can do this, that would be
great.   The review would be due around the 1 May 2015.

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    <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lmap-yang-00"
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    early review (we are moving to a model where they all are).=C2=A0 As
    such, using the WGLC template seems best, but omitting the WGLC
    date.<br>
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    If you can let me know by Friday whether you can do this, that would
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It's pure HTTP stuff, as far as I understand.

Regards,   Martin.

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Thanks, Martin!  That was fast.

Eliot

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>
> Regards,   Martin.
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Sorry for the tardiness...

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>  For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was apps
>> reviews.  We would like to try an experiment, which is to both identify the
>> skills needed for a proper review and a reviewer early in the life cycle of
>> a working group draft.  What follows is a list of recently published -00
>> working group drafts.  I wonder if people could volunteer to just quickly
>> scan one of the following drafts, and email back to the group only the
>> following information:
>>
>>    - The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)
>>    - A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)
>>     - The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the review.
>>    To get a feel for what people have listed, just go to our favorite little
>>    wiki
>>    <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate>
>>    and look in the expertise column.
>>
>> Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when you've
>> done.  If it takes you more than 10 minutes, something's probably gone
>> wrong.
>>
>
> I'll take draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.  Will send it by the
> weekend.
>

I don't believe this needs much of our attention.  None of what it talks
about rises (almost literally) to the layers of the stack where we tend to
operate.  At best there are some security implications of these protocol
options, but they appear to be addressed within the lower layers as well
and aren't specific to any protocol or family of protocols at our layers.

-MSK

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry for the tardiness...<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Murray S. Kuc=
herawy <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:superuser@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">superuser@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:20=
 AM, Eliot Lear <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lear@cisco.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">lear@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D""><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
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   =20
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    For those of you who weren&#39;t at the AppsArea lunch, one topic was
    apps reviews.=C2=A0 We would like to try an experiment, which is to bot=
h
    identify the skills needed for a proper review and a reviewer early
    in the life cycle of a working group draft.=C2=A0 What follows is a lis=
t
    of recently published -00 working group drafts.=C2=A0 I wonder if peopl=
e
    could volunteer to just quickly scan one of the following drafts,
    and email back to the group only the following information:<br>
    <ul>
      <li>The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)</li>
      <li>A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)<br>
      </li>
      <li>The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the
        review.=C2=A0 To get a feel for what people have listed, just go to
        our favorite little <a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/=
trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate" target=3D"_blank">wiki</a>
        and look in the expertise column.</li>
    </ul>
    <p>Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when
      you&#39;ve done.=C2=A0 If it takes you more than 10 minutes, somethin=
g&#39;s
      probably gone wrong.<br></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span>=
<div>I&#39;ll take draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.=C2=A0 Will send i=
t by the weekend.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"></span></div></div></div></div></bl=
ockquote><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t believe this needs much of our att=
ention.=C2=A0 None of what it talks about rises (almost literally) to the l=
ayers of the stack where we tend to operate.=C2=A0 At best there are some s=
ecurity implications of these protocol options, but they appear to be addre=
ssed within the lower layers as well and aren&#39;t specific to any protoco=
l or family of protocols at our layers.<br><br></div><div>-MSK<br></div></d=
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Perfect, Murray.  Thank you.  I've asked Barry if he wants full reviews
for these sorts of documents.  Let's see what he comes back with.

Eliot


On 4/15/15 6:59 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> Sorry for the tardiness...
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy
> <superuser@gmail.com <mailto:superuser@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com
>     <mailto:lear@cisco.com>> wrote:
>
>         For those of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one topic
>         was apps reviews.  We would like to try an experiment, which
>         is to both identify the skills needed for a proper review and
>         a reviewer early in the life cycle of a working group draft.=20
>         What follows is a list of recently published -00 working group
>         drafts.  I wonder if people could volunteer to just quickly
>         scan one of the following drafts, and email back to the group
>         only the following information:
>
>           * The draft filename (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)
>           * A gut feel as to how much attention it will need (and why)
>           * The sorts of apps area skills required to properly do the
>             review.  To get a feel for what people have listed, just
>             go to our favorite little wiki
>             <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/Applications=
AreaDirectorate>
>             and look in the expertise column.
>
>         Just pick one draft off the list below and send it round when
>         you've done.  If it takes you more than 10 minutes,
>         something's probably gone wrong.
>
>
>     I'll take draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.  Will send it by
>     the weekend.
>
>
> I don't believe this needs much of our attention.  None of what it
> talks about rises (almost literally) to the layers of the stack where
> we tend to operate.  At best there are some security implications of
> these protocol options, but they appear to be addressed within the
> lower layers as well and aren't specific to any protocol or family of
> protocols at our layers.
>
> -MSK


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                        <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"> For th=
ose
                          of you who weren't at the AppsArea lunch, one
                          topic was apps reviews.=C2=A0 We would like to =
try
                          an experiment, which is to both identify the
                          skills needed for a proper review and a
                          reviewer early in the life cycle of a working
                          group draft.=C2=A0 What follows is a list of
                          recently published -00 working group drafts.=C2=
=A0
                          I wonder if people could volunteer to just
                          quickly scan one of the following drafts, and
                          email back to the group only the following
                          information:<br>
                          <ul>
                            <li>The draft filename
                              (draft-ietf-wg...-00.txt)</li>
                            <li>A gut feel as to how much attention it
                              will need (and why)<br>
                            </li>
                            <li>The sorts of apps area skills required
                              to properly do the review.=C2=A0 To get a f=
eel
                              for what people have listed, just go to
                              our favorite little <a
                                moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDir=
ectorate"
                                target=3D"_blank">wiki</a> and look in th=
e
                              expertise column.</li>
                          </ul>
                          <p>Just pick one draft off the list below and
                            send it round when you've done.=C2=A0 If it t=
akes
                            you more than 10 minutes, something's
                            probably gone wrong.<br>
                          </p>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                    </span>
                    <div>I'll take
                      draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-00.=C2=A0 Will s=
end
                      it by the weekend.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"></span></d=
iv>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>I don't believe this needs much of our attention.=C2=A0 =
None
              of what it talks about rises (almost literally) to the
              layers of the stack where we tend to operate.=C2=A0 At best=

              there are some security implications of these protocol
              options, but they appear to be addressed within the lower
              layers as well and aren't specific to any protocol or
              family of protocols at our layers.<br>
              <br>
            </div>
            <div>-MSK<br>
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On 15/04/2015 12:20, Eliot Lear wrote:
> Alexey,
Hi Eliot,
>
> Can you take on an Apps Directorate review of draft-ietf-lmap-yang-00 
> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lmap-yang-00>?  The initial 
> review indicates that model contains aspects of calendaring, something 
> you know a lot about.
I should be able to review the document by May 1st, although a bit short 
on free time at the moment.
> As a reminder, the templates for reviews are at 
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/template. This is an 
> early review (we are moving to a model where they all are).  As such, 
> using the WGLC template seems best, but omitting the WGLC date.
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> If you can let me know by Friday whether you can do this, that would 
> be great.   The review would be due around the 1 May 2015.


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      indicates that model contains aspects of calendaring, something
      you know a lot about.<br>
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    I should be able to review the document by May 1st, although a bit
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    <blockquote cite=3D"mid:552E498E.1040106@cisco.com" type=3D"cite"> As a
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Thank you, Alexey.  If it's going to be a little later, that's okay
since we're doing earlier reviews.  But let me know...

Eliot


On 4/20/15 5:10 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
> On 15/04/2015 12:20, Eliot Lear wrote:
>> Alexey,
> Hi Eliot,
>>
>> Can you take on an Apps Directorate review of draft-ietf-lmap-yang-00
>> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lmap-yang-00>?  The initial
>> review indicates that model contains aspects of calendaring,
>> something you know a lot about.
> I should be able to review the document by May 1st, although a bit
> short on free time at the moment.
>> As a reminder, the templates for reviews are at
>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/template.  This is an
>> early review (we are moving to a model where they all are).  As such,
>> using the WGLC template seems best, but omitting the WGLC date.
>>
>> If you can let me know by Friday whether you can do this, that would
>> be great.   The review would be due around the 1 May 2015.
>


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    Thank you, Alexey.=C2=A0 If it's going to be a little later, that's o=
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    <br>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 4/20/15 5:10 PM, Alexey Melnikov
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      On 15/04/2015 12:20, Eliot Lear wrote:<br>
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        Can you take on an Apps Directorate review of <a
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eview
        indicates that model contains aspects of calendaring, something
        you know a lot about.<br>
      </blockquote>
      I should be able to review the document by May 1st, although a bit
      short on free time at the moment.<br>
      <blockquote cite=3D"mid:552E498E.1040106@cisco.com" type=3D"cite"> =
As
        a reminder, the templates for reviews are at <a
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Hi everyone,

The following drafts need a quick scan.  Please if you can do one just
let me know.  This is NOT a full review.

draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-network-topo-00.txt
draft-ietf-netmod-yang-metadata-00.txt
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Hello everyone,

If you have a few moments would you kindly scan a few of these drafts
for initial review?
> draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-00.txt
> draft-ietf-httpbis-legally-restricted-status-00.txt
> draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l2-network-topology-00.txt
> draft-ietf-nfsv4-scsi-layout-00.txt
> draft-ietf-pals-vpls-pim-snooping-00.txt
> draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world-00.txt

This is just to determine skills needed, and whether there is any apps
area intersection.

Thanks in advance,

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I've followed the legally restricted status discussion from Tim Bray's
first proposal, though not with any great insight.  It's fundamentally a
status code addition for HTTP; other groups might be interested in
following it if they usually adopt HTTP status codes, since they might or
might not want to follow the practice with this one.

Ted

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> If you have a few moments would you kindly scan a few of these drafts
> for initial review?
> > draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-00.txt
> > draft-ietf-httpbis-legally-restricted-status-00.txt
> > draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l2-network-topology-00.txt
> > draft-ietf-nfsv4-scsi-layout-00.txt
> > draft-ietf-pals-vpls-pim-snooping-00.txt
> > draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world-00.txt
>
> This is just to determine skills needed, and whether there is any apps
> area intersection.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Eliot
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">I&#39;ve followed the legally restricted status =
discussion from Tim Bray&#39;s first proposal, though not with any great in=
sight.=C2=A0 It&#39;s fundamentally a status code addition for HTTP; other =
groups might be interested in following it if they usually adopt HTTP statu=
s codes, since they might or might not want to follow the practice with thi=
s one.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:tahom=
a,sans-serif;font-size:small">Ted<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Eliot Lea=
r <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lear@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>lear@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hel=
lo everyone,<br>
<br>
If you have a few moments would you kindly scan a few of these drafts<br>
for initial review?<br>
&gt; draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-00.txt<br>
&gt; draft-ietf-httpbis-legally-restricted-status-00.txt<br>
&gt; draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l2-network-topology-00.txt<br>
&gt; draft-ietf-nfsv4-scsi-layout-00.txt<br>
&gt; draft-ietf-pals-vpls-pim-snooping-00.txt<br>
&gt; draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world-00.txt<br>
<br>
This is just to determine skills needed, and whether there is any apps<br>
area intersection.<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance,<br>
<br>
Eliot<br>
<br>
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Ted,

Thanks for stepping up.  What I will do is mark it as requiring HTTP
experience, and assign accordingly.

Eliot

On 4/27/15 4:07 PM, Ted Hardie wrote:
> I've followed the legally restricted status discussion from Tim Bray's
> first proposal, though not with any great insight.  It's fundamentally
> a status code addition for HTTP; other groups might be interested in
> following it if they usually adopt HTTP status codes, since they might
> or might not want to follow the practice with this one.
>
> Ted
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com
> <mailto:lear@cisco.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hello everyone,
>
>     If you have a few moments would you kindly scan a few of these draf=
ts
>     for initial review?
>     > draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-00.txt
>     > draft-ietf-httpbis-legally-restricted-status-00.txt
>     > draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l2-network-topology-00.txt
>     > draft-ietf-nfsv4-scsi-layout-00.txt
>     > draft-ietf-pals-vpls-pim-snooping-00.txt
>     > draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world-00.txt
>
>     This is just to determine skills needed, and whether there is any a=
pps
>     area intersection.
>
>     Thanks in advance,
>
>     Eliot
>
>
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    Ted,<br>
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    Thanks for stepping up.=C2=A0 What I will do is mark it as requiring =
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    <br>
    Eliot<br>
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          followed the legally restricted status discussion from Tim
          Bray's first proposal, though not with any great insight.=C2=A0=

          It's fundamentally a status code addition for HTTP; other
          groups might be interested in following it if they usually
          adopt HTTP status codes, since they might or might not want to
          follow the practice with this one.<br>
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        <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Elio=
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello
            everyone,<br>
            <br>
            If you have a few moments would you kindly scan a few of
            these drafts<br>
            for initial review?<br>
            &gt; draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-00.txt<br>
            &gt; draft-ietf-httpbis-legally-restricted-status-00.txt<br>
            &gt; draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l2-network-topology-00.txt<br>
            &gt; draft-ietf-nfsv4-scsi-layout-00.txt<br>
            &gt; draft-ietf-pals-vpls-pim-snooping-00.txt<br>
            &gt; draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world-00.txt<br>
            <br>
            This is just to determine skills needed, and whether there
            is any apps<br>
            area intersection.<br>
            <br>
            Thanks in advance,<br>
            <br>
            Eliot<br>
            <br>
            <br>
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Nothing to see here.  This is a low level draft dealing with (you
guessed it) ARP optimization.  There are no implications for the
applications area that I can spot (e.g., internationalization or apps
protocol use).

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