From nobody Wed Mar 3 13:47:26 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CDD3A1BB7 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2021 13:47:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MPfS94ENd1ax for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2021 13:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B2BD3A1BB5 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2021 13:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from unformal.local ([47.186.1.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 123LlKXV001892 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2021 15:47:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1614808040; bh=XQDfJYPquIT69pNZXi9ofKQTquRzxpZyu0G7pzck8sc=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=EmdTjXqhW1M/slEruwL9Jxa2HguwpmuVZLKsshAS19iTHpqQQGpxDTG7FqLDqxbOp FLnFJvAe0IvDyfVTF1vyvjKFZmpYLFAAeWwbTgjJSvJ6wfEuKJKRSKHw6bdtjYckZo MqZbpsBj/aYeZUNo91gIcNCga656r4+DRBvsUZlU= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.1.92] claimed to be unformal.local To: IETF Tools Development From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 15:47:14 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] No tools team meeting next week X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2021 21:47:24 -0000 Your calendar may (for a short while still) show a tools team meeting next Tuesday. It is cancelled. We will meet next in April. Please bring anything up that needs to be discussed by email in the meantime, and watch for opportunities to visit in Gather during the week next week. RjS From nobody Wed Mar 10 23:23:47 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185A33A13BC for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 23:23:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=eggert.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WjF5wj4Qq98k for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 23:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.eggert.org (mail.eggert.org [IPv6:2a00:ac00:4000:400:211:32ff:fe22:186f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7E083A13BA for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 23:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2a00:ac00:4000:400:29b9:a500:a909:88e0] (unknown [IPv6:2a00:ac00:4000:400:29b9:a500:a909:88e0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.eggert.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 72C3360031A; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:23:10 +0200 (EET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=eggert.org; s=dkim; t=1615447390; bh=MfVyTFXTttg8P/cEyFY9bANpHNTp5lCwisY93W6OZPw=; h=From:Subject:Date:Cc:To; b=NK64a5SZu+fdJ2ExtJC+bfox2S57RItPDu0fNS9+/LGzpWnHwRIg0hWlnSkXnWvND 3DWVlSEGX06gcU1s9ZEXNwGHe558of2fktMqanoAyI9xDy1vw+CRPvieWUnd88viOS tMV7p4A2RGuUNkSRv0GD0x0OjLwKVGOKZtDU5BRQ= From: Lars Eggert Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_824092FB-3FFC-4529-A3F7-44287C568B38"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) Message-Id: <5FCC3565-5415-4284-B042-FBE2F2C54EBC@eggert.org> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:23:10 +0200 Cc: tools-development@ietf.org To: paul.hoffman@vpnc.org X-MailScanner-ID: 72C3360031A.AFC9A X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: lars@eggert.org Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid3642 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 07:23:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_824092FB-3FFC-4529-A3F7-44287C568B38 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, any suggestion how to process https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid3642? Thanks, Lars --Apple-Mail=_824092FB-3FFC-4529-A3F7-44287C568B38 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEmpq0ZpSoejRmyhheVLXDCb9wwVcFAmBJxV4ACgkQVLXDCb9w wVdYVQ/+ODWaeRtMIbYuUFHbuQ8uMMpWVjQzbp/8O/Qsq8XvfGX+m36+EXT9hvsB q6IZLHcPYdxbWOBoTkZNhUFaiDW7/D48/BY0KrceLxeMCQeoj38FKZBOeXp1ngqn qN+k2iNqVhSFhgGhdjiH+vcb0/Fk2PK9QYf1ejpEdFchipJqoVz82YSz8+kQYKez 53TRVucwBz0X3qWbXrOJj9FfKnqfvOIidxVsYdWnXppdHfjfE0ce9Xrq/mBoWDYf tqrllUIFgbeSGkJ+mhbhk0nosJyjWF+2GCRi1K/bCAoWxu7hi8uiyKdaRv0psrIY /1htUcRkRqfa8oCxHnzMq7EcT2daqtMrX6bdJFaSj3bV2C2j+VGirFFIRNSf5RFh 1HAc8Ft9BD6OY7PZ8usT4jod6SxQtwYo01q9juX4Z0UcTydXNSM0ZQFAnz8R6PPH IB07e6HK6sKEXmfFSX+Cj0dhF7iAgG9QbNyfRwUYQCWNFG8LSQx9usnbymgWmkd4 G+dH7XtMSMQjn1qLnRRLCcQSjMAO+SR+9ftbVV+FJiuBRWrq18jhQpzsXTrvsXOy mADHGR9u71S/a5ZJj3rBUzh6IOpwEmy7+PWQ2dze+IvUO0HWImk9+YcNY3vhwA0y m92j9+ucZHrdEHFedU4tOMDMFMtd+lb7GACiBUOCKHpvUyOwSKA= =tbkW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_824092FB-3FFC-4529-A3F7-44287C568B38-- From nobody Thu Mar 11 02:59:30 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93AB3A18FF for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 02:59:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a6z4_JgWspoe for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 02:59:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A031E3A18FE for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 02:59:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from unformal.local ([47.186.1.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 12BAxL06044221 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 04:59:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1615460362; bh=mL5mEA/T1ofJkOu2+ee8dGfC58mb+/kLcYarzVarvq4=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=H+4H6eHL/elAO1r5aqmaJaqwF6OmZ5nfJQkwZ3eN1WakGsZ1Y9bqnzY0hcVlezVcN fWbV6EoFywHWb3a5u3fgjlRuDJDe+eZKuoc3p77sEPQeh/eeS0Cam4eP+o34u4wjET Qs0T1/vSkbLCQanipU45pkcmhT6fuCsUQuXR68uY= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.1.92] claimed to be unformal.local To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <5FCC3565-5415-4284-B042-FBE2F2C54EBC@eggert.org> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <797d8393-97ed-7acc-65e5-f6cfd505a19d@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 04:59:16 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5FCC3565-5415-4284-B042-FBE2F2C54EBC@eggert.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CFBDD58DB08E37B1D4360EE2" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid3642 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 10:59:29 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------CFBDD58DB08E37B1D4360EE2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The RFC informed the construction of some software, it was not documentation of process. Process, and software, evolve. There's no need to try to make this RFC become documentation of the existing software at any given point in time. Please reject the Errata with "The RFC documented what we thought we wanted at the time. It is not documentation of the as-built or evolving software". RjS On 3/11/21 1:23 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: > Hi, > > any suggestion how to process https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid3642? > > Thanks, > Lars > > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --------------CFBDD58DB08E37B1D4360EE2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The RFC informed the construction of some software, it was not documentation of process.

Process, and software, evolve. There's no need to try to make this RFC become documentation of the existing software at any given point in time.

Please reject the Errata with "The RFC documented what we thought we wanted at the time. It is not documentation of the as-built or evolving software".

RjS

On 3/11/21 1:23 AM, Lars Eggert wrote:
Hi,

any suggestion how to process https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid3642?

Thanks,
Lars



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--------------CFBDD58DB08E37B1D4360EE2-- From nobody Tue Mar 30 14:23:01 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762783A0E4F for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 14:22:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f0FqiMNsqPkz for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 14:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C2A53A0E4D for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 14:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unformal.localdomain ([47.186.1.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 12ULMpKf095172 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 16:22:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1617139371; bh=AjOlzfdcSOJmk6zYHR2NvRPu7rN33X/PDKEyN1uXmJQ=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=pNsOvoSsi2hszfkHY6D5oqs1W5ggGQFHtGk9Qm6DmcN6eNumtkRqO2ZhdRVncA5Wx STFnQqqXc1XCD4Oe6ynbQbO0KQ7QA0Vl05cShn/mDblKL0F4wy6Fd8iuvj91k6vf2M 0MHS8TshOFXlYTcY0rjPG52qh3GawjpJuakUkQtM= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.1.92] claimed to be unformal.localdomain To: IETF Tools Development From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <888facf6-0f97-798f-694d-099098636983@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 16:22:45 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Question: Can we move the tools team meetings an hour later X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 21:23:00 -0000 Would anyone have difficulty if we moved the tools team meetings one hour later going forward? RjS From nobody Tue Mar 30 14:51:11 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25B43A1001 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 14:51:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wr66HJN5OoK8 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 14:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C8703A0FF7 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 14:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5739300B6E for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 17:51:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 76_x-IofR3SC for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 17:51:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.161] (pool-141-156-161-153.washdc.fios.verizon.net [141.156.161.153]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 993CC30024B; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 17:51:01 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.17\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <888facf6-0f97-798f-694d-099098636983@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 17:51:01 -0400 Cc: IETF Tools Development Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5034D871-E0B7-425E-BB0F-7CBCE393DB57@vigilsec.com> References: <888facf6-0f97-798f-694d-099098636983@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.17) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Question: Can we move the tools team meetings an hour later X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 21:51:10 -0000 I would be happier with the call one hour later or one hour earlier. = Where it sits is difficult for me. Russ > On Mar 30, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 > Would anyone have difficulty if we moved the tools team meetings one = hour later going forward? >=20 > RjS From nobody Wed Mar 31 07:18:00 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BA53A29E5 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:17:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G1wrHZf7VJRy for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D58D3A29E2 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unformal.localdomain ([47.186.1.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 12VEHo6Y054008 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 09:17:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1617200271; bh=mM6pQXtHeMksJpbgP5uhqmoMWDG2YDm+5Af1E+whdgs=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=rpDHDeZY8xO174/Kq9jaNa3GLR+kvJvG12Br6+NSykITP50LKrlRAX2DkDeOm//nM Hk0NKXA8xa9r39BoxNGpSVKlT6uXBGN3PgHXscrAECJILga8qDJ9xDq6SxAP5akCw7 ApbBc6bCT7cb+XKDfQlMMhCWmW0+3lIQAACombXI= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.1.92] claimed to be unformal.localdomain To: IETF Tools Development From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <5ea11455-0b43-71e4-b1cc-6f6012768223@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 09:17:45 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Revised Question: Can we move the tools team meetings a half hour later X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:17:58 -0000 Based on direct feedback from a few people, a full hour later adds difficulty. A half hour later adds less. (And earlier would not be reasonable for NZ). So - would a half hour later be acceptable? RjS From nobody Wed Mar 31 07:36:28 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EEC3A2AB1 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:36:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EsBU6FCajIjX for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA36E3A2A89 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD8D300BBD for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 10:36:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 7CLH-yZs0ewb for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 10:36:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.161] (pool-141-156-161-153.washdc.fios.verizon.net [141.156.161.153]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2835B300B19; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 10:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.17\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <5ea11455-0b43-71e4-b1cc-6f6012768223@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 10:36:16 -0400 Cc: IETF Tools Development Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <16C8EE9B-EE1E-4453-A6EA-AA81C2CFB689@vigilsec.com> References: <5ea11455-0b43-71e4-b1cc-6f6012768223@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.17) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Revised Question: Can we move the tools team meetings a half hour later X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:36:26 -0000 that is better than the current time. I may be late on occasion. Russ > On Mar 31, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 > Based on direct feedback from a few people, a full hour later adds = difficulty. A half hour later adds less. (And earlier would not be = reasonable for NZ). >=20 > So - would a half hour later be acceptable? >=20 > RjS >=20