From nobody Fri Nov 19 05:05:25 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8503A0899 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 05:05:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W1EyRKG0dlG8 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 05:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3AF93A0898 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 05:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF5E300BE1 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:05:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id HQOEVcuu1h-0 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:05:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (pool-141-156-161-153.washdc.fios.verizon.net [141.156.161.153]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5CA45300B74 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:05:19 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.21\)) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:05:16 -0500 References: <20211119071802.5294923B2A0@rfc-editor.org> To: IETF Tools Development In-Reply-To: <20211119071802.5294923B2A0@rfc-editor.org> Message-Id: <8370ACEA-53CB-412B-8458-CD506A651DA7@vigilsec.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.21) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] RFC 9141 on Updating References to the IETF FTP Service X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 13:05:24 -0000 Yeah! > On Nov 19, 2021, at 2:18 AM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote: >=20 > A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. >=20 >=20 > RFC 9141 >=20 > Title: Updating References to the IETF=20 > FTP Service=20 > Author: R. Danyliw > Status: Standards Track > Stream: IETF > Date: November 2021 > Mailbox: rdd@cert.org > Pages: 18 > Updates: RFC 2077, RFC 2418, RFC 2648, RFC 2954,=20 > RFC 2955, RFC 3020, RFC 3083, RFC 3201,=20 > RFC 3202, RFC 3295, RFC 3684, RFC 3962,=20 > RFC 3970, RFC 4036, RFC 4131, RFC 4251,=20 > RFC 4323, RFC 4546, RFC 4547, RFC 4639,=20 > RFC 4682, RFC 5098, RFC 5428, RFC 6756,=20 > RFC 7241 >=20 > I-D Tag: draft-danyliw-replace-ftp-pointers-06.txt >=20 > URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc9141 >=20 > DOI: 10.17487/RFC9141 >=20 > The IETF FTP service running at ftp.ietf.org, ops.ietf.org, and > ietf.org will be retired. A number of published RFCs in the IETF and > IAB streams include URIs that reference this FTP service. To ensure > that the materials referenced using the IETF FTP service can still be > found, this document updates the FTP-based references in these > affected documents with HTTPS URIs. >=20 > This is now a Proposed Standard. >=20 > STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track > protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and = suggestions > for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official > Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for = the=20 > standardization state and status of this protocol. 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Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] FW: RFC 9141 on Updating References to the IETF FTP Service X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 22:34:16 -0000 It appears that Eric Vyncke (evyncke) said: >Based on https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/vi-8bFqlgBFjB2jJ1SIAGHiNRdg/ IESG and the tools team are now expected to: >- work on a plan for the actual shutdown of the FTP services >- sending an email to the IETF community 4 months before the actual shutdown > >I would suggest that we send the email early next week (happy to do it or delegate to Roman or Lars or someone from the tools team) as I do not think that we need to have a plan to simply >remove some RR from the ietf.org zone and shutdown/uninstall services/servers Next week is a major holiday in the U.S. I'd wait until the week after. R's, John From nobody Tue Nov 23 13:21:12 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietf.org Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4F33A07B1; Tue, 23 Nov 2021 13:21:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: IESG Secretary To: "IETF-Announce" Cc: tools-development@ietf.org, codesprints@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.40.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <163770246568.7379.18378228895439865411@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 13:21:05 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] The Tools Team (tools) TEAM Virtual Meeting: 2021-12-06 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Tools Development mail list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 21:21:06 -0000 The The Tools Team (tools) Team will hold a virtual interim meeting on 2021-12-06 from 12:00 to 15:00 America/Chicago (18:00 to 21:00 UTC). Agenda: This first Tools Team Workshop will focus on Mail Processing We expect to go over the processing flow of email going to our lists, and discuss the following: * IDN support What a Mailman 3 migration would require What would be different with Mailman 3 what would have to change in the rest of the processing chain * Spam abatement Virus scanning Spamassassin Postconfirm Use of mailman’s mechanisms * Ability to moderate a given participant * DMARC rewriting * Alias maintenance (-chairs@, -authors@, etc.) Information about remote participation: https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=00a153e7-ecf9-4a56-a529-11d231797a81