From sm@elandsys.com Fri Jun 1 10:27:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987C211E80B4 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:27:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.539 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.539 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G-XpZxvH2-P7 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFEC11E8074 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([41.136.232.21]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51HQZIE007694 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:26:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1338571619; i=@elandsys.com; bh=yr9enXd+6YauWpdXuiI6kqddjlm5o/HqoxUlQkjBFsE=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=1L/cJac9iaf7e26GUQKVhscJi4MiHUJ26XDeDAyVALUKgspYxBWOfwb5fX0Yrhl0g FDM4ZO6xYmM0icZ+ys/6bGVNDvAMJrKnPJPSM6/V3rAmBhVj23V4JEbWXbd8o3wFh2 n/ZZYzhmKUHYEzUwRYvq/a7djdft9ehWybpCB+7Y= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1338571619; i=@elandsys.com; bh=yr9enXd+6YauWpdXuiI6kqddjlm5o/HqoxUlQkjBFsE=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=0SIDBlT/MOgym5zZAc1XzkEdztevg4Vc3mUfDCMJf+FqZPomegAk+vXnK8je50ZPx Cp7gz4vOLRah9Cyhi2Ab9tMe6M/TEDpPWeC6zpIueqo3OJQCTOZCGujoXFBX2/kQYc yJbBSGgzm5xlcH/Pp9i3jP49TMK/6lh8W74Z4KQE= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120601095953.09fd2700@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:26:06 -0700 To: Claudio Allocchio , Joseph Yee , Enrico Marocco , Jiankang YAO , Alexey Melnikov , Yves Lafon From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] Assignment reminder X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:27:09 -0000 Hello, [Cc to appsdir@] This is a gentle reminder about assignments which are due: * draft-ietf-codec-opus-12 - Claudio The draft will be evaluated by the IESG on June 7. I suggest submitting whatever you done have by tomorrow so that the Apps ADs have ample time to evaluate this complex draft. * draft-ietf-6man-lineid-04 - Joseph This draft is still being evaluated by the Responsible AD. * draft-farrell-decade-ni-07 - Martin Thanks for the off-list notification * draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpmss-04 - Enrico The draft will be evaluated by the IESG on June 7. I suggest submitting whatever you done have by tomorrow. * draft-ietf-6lowpan-btle-07 - Jiankang The draft is being evaluated by the Responsible AD. I would like to get the assignment off the list of pending reviews. * draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-05 - Alexey The draft is in Last Call. * draft-ietf-mile-iodef-xmlreg-01 - Yves The draft will be evaluated by the IESG on June 7. I suggest submitting whatever you done have by tomorrow. Best regards, -sm From sm@elandsys.com Fri Jun 1 22:20:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAA811E8072 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 22:20:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.546 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.546 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.053, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G6ZWqQHjTN05 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 22:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C3421F8AC9 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 22:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([41.136.232.21]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q525Kcap018477 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 22:20:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1338614451; i=@elandsys.com; bh=MOXzoMf7MmCpQpMRyjhK7B22VVmgPe0GuOs0yJoOIrs=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=R+e1EQ0BghVp7vLJcz1Q2zzvH1CeMMznBpHLVnvOZw1BuUt/7cghCIBMeYdobYHYA v9HRmA7ThSOzP3Kv6r87edNz4qC1yjsrZ8ESjmx/eXT3r0PU7SIZQAuyw0iZ1itWFj 4onV8hiDTS5RDvwpbfS0kdgRPeklfssgFlJf6gsw= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1338614451; i=@elandsys.com; bh=MOXzoMf7MmCpQpMRyjhK7B22VVmgPe0GuOs0yJoOIrs=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=wgpBkudDcGjq38Slqvtf3MftfN6oMzr82f7/UUfhDTMfZ3QQd1CXe82xgWvxTO0MA P6O36nZeq0Q9ERvBg9BauoSRlXwnHyrqKPWOBEyjB4UXB1+SJ0nTFzW1E/8vsHt+oR VCssEMvgPoGunra2NrLDiVnDDEenIXCdhiG2E33o= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120601220636.0b7099a0@resistor.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 22:13:29 -0700 To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" From: SM In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] [apps-discuss] Change of address X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 05:20:57 -0000 Hi Murray, At 20:48 01-06-2012, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >With a change in employers comes a change in address. My IETF >activity now lives at this one. I usually avoid assigning a review to a person who shares an affiliation with one of the authors of the draft. Could you send me the affiliation off-list? If anyone else on APPSDIR has changed affiliation, please email me. Best regards, -sm From sm@elandsys.com Sat Jun 2 02:56:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C2121F8A86 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 02:56:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VbKcW09EVl89 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 02:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF92921F8A68 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 02:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([41.136.232.21]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q529uP2C027106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; 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format=flowed Subject: [appsdir] List of assignments for June 14 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 09:56:45 -0000 Hello, This is the list of assignments due by June 14 draft-ietf-krb-wg-kdc-model-12 - Tobias draft-ietf-v6ops-ra-guard-implementation-04 - Yoshiro draft-ietf-idr-rfc4893bis-06 - Ted draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484bis-05 - Carsten draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lbyr-uri-option-15 - Julian draft-ietf-intarea-ipv4-id-update-05 - Eliot draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-meas-identity-06 - Sal draft-sandlund-rfc4996bis-02 - Vijay draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-09 - Jiankang draft-vegoda-cotton-rfc5735bis-02 - self draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bis-09 - Dave Crocker RFC 2818 - Mark Best regards, -sm From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Sat Jun 2 08:18:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E4621F856D for ; 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d=garr.it; c=simple; q=dns; b=iAad1mNbX0/+W84HzDqSi8iR3PHWB/MeNOn19twIO183jkWmG861BTeUobFKzfJJg IEHDX+BnQYTg/cHUzz6nrvJEcPj6FzM63y3Gh4D7cMuE6NVVHI5Bdk6gvHztB+Znimh ti7NiQ4LpFMf5PAJIrOd8QfMdwNBIjSRq9XNF0c= Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:18:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it To: SM In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20120601095953.09fd2700@elandnews.com> Message-ID: References: <6.2.5.6.2.20120601095953.09fd2700@elandnews.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] Assignment reminder X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:18:57 -0000 On Fri, 1 Jun 2012, SM wrote: > Hello, > > [Cc to appsdir@] > > This is a gentle reminder about assignments which are due: > > * draft-ietf-codec-opus-12 - Claudio > > The draft will be evaluated by the IESG on June 7. I suggest submitting > whatever you done have by tomorrow so that the Apps ADs have ample time to > evaluate this complex draft. tha draft has meanwhile chaned twice (now -14)... making things even more complex. But I'll send the review by tomorrow :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From sm@elandsys.com Sat Jun 2 08:46:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D22021F858E for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:46:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.045, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SCnj5IqqCIL8 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1116121F84B6 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([41.136.235.24]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q52Fk944015651 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:46:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1338651980; i=@elandsys.com; bh=pxaLGhuoLXsbF63rvkW+5BLPsdiIt5EOhhLzfQ9AYx4=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=JDQ85OPFK8xBW3NegK5edxqrdZIaohvqsF3e3mYafwkmpiItGG0QZSClQ8+ERhLFm tY8eazJoNWWKQpTXKZPbO4ULbQ0Sy7X+25JtTrPjiIfFNYiI+q6aK8w3bl9e80cq6c Y3uCm41+c/TxrtAHO3pIp6g5rMZRbB1L8V4Jm2d4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1338651980; i=@elandsys.com; bh=pxaLGhuoLXsbF63rvkW+5BLPsdiIt5EOhhLzfQ9AYx4=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=eyZg/wpzRFEDjdJDENk4ryF8kUl3x6PsxR0k8nufSuk7Q7uHyc1olMI1LlLxaBu3m rdWpf1V2+UMCRO4J5wC0ogfPEjc/Lmyr/xsWA7qjk9DRBdiCr/S1w5ciFpotNshmqU KLDv8rwwenhVFZvHjKo3c+yQ9Z6CGxxtVy5Xd/ng= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120602084358.0b86d0f8@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:45:22 -0700 To: Larry Masinter From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] Request for review: draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lbyr-uri-option-15 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:46:23 -0000 Hi Larry, Could you please review draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lbyr-uri-option-15 by June 14? Thanks, -sm From masinter@adobe.com Sat Jun 2 18:07:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708B011E807F for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:07:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5DUpx6+cWeN4 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod6og117.obsmtp.com (exprod6og117.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.39]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7A611E8072 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com ([192.150.11.134]) by exprod6ob117.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT8q42fFyOKTGBaQtIZS7i9BiBEo+J0b+@postini.com; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:07:45 PDT Received: from inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (inner-relay-4.adobe.com [193.104.215.14]) by outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q5315KJ0017647; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nahub02.corp.adobe.com (nahub02.corp.adobe.com [10.8.189.98]) by inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id q5317XYs024322; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nambxv01a.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.95]) by nahub02.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.98]) with mapi; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:07:33 -0700 From: Larry Masinter To: SM Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:07:32 -0700 Thread-Topic: Request for review: draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lbyr-uri-option-15 Thread-Index: Ac1A1tyYL7Icgv2fRwGSRzIw97QC/wATmH9Q Message-ID: References: <6.2.5.6.2.20120602084358.0b86d0f8@elandnews.com> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20120602084358.0b86d0f8@elandnews.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "appsdir@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for review: draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lbyr-uri-option-15 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:07:46 -0000 Yes -----Original Message----- From: SM [mailto:sm+ietf@elandsys.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:45 AM To: Larry Masinter Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Request for review: draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lbyr-uri-option-15 Hi Larry, Could you please review draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lbyr-uri-option-15 by June = 14? Thanks, -sm From sm@elandsys.com Sun Jun 3 10:10:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A7E21F8472 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:10:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.558 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.558 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.041, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DRGdBzIIziwj for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A5E21F8471 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([41.136.239.5]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q53H9gZB000372 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:09:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1338743394; i=@elandsys.com; bh=nrhIVdmlkKSRBt9fduD5hJ+cOwS2h0xRB6xgYjFkL+U=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=Lgb2QYvjsRXhGvcuTFGypjU429FSnvrzDf3ExFbKcbbXobK97L2REJVdFEPyeHIHi opVwQmh13/wI0BYV5/Oeh1vbNL5Gqfx9Tb/+flyfI7CUj8bb7rgqutwqf+WL9XkVid 6WiYKKyPfqwjVaA3x5KedTzNtLUkbNubDcIiTL64= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1338743394; i=@elandsys.com; bh=nrhIVdmlkKSRBt9fduD5hJ+cOwS2h0xRB6xgYjFkL+U=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=nluMqM3T9nUoYzhTSPdMprtbCS1oQdo2MefedjTxrioq6Me4o4/NdFMNdbmKKxxvj E28IoXAb4WAFjKbJ9slkwBCydp77fywD043OeFKaViKwuSugVuxxJK/mdPJJjkJRoH 9UVwxibzWIgOiN12jL15Squcyd1I0GUBzJ3hd2Hc= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120603073843.09f288f0@resistor.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:49:17 -0700 To: Claudio Allocchio From: SM In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] [apps-discuss] APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-codec-opus-14 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 17:10:07 -0000 Hi Claudio, At 10:25 02-06-2012, Claudio Allocchio wrote: >This draft follows a quite unusual specification method: I see the >real specification as is "a piece of software code", and the text >specification is intented as an extended "comment" to the software >code itself. I personally do not have a strong opinion if this >method is an acceptable IETF practice; for sure it is the opposite >of what's normally done, where the normative text gives instruction >and suggestions on how to write the indipendent implementations >(mostly software code) later on. If this is already common I'll comment on the above in general terms. For some background, it was argued that draft-ietf-appsawg-about-uri-scheme cannot be a Proposed Standard as interoperability cannot be demonstrated. The source code is normative for draft-ietf-codec-opus-14. That rules out the two independent implementations test which is the usual rule to determine whether a specification is ok. Several of the DISCUSS criteria at http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html may be applicable in such cases. If I go by what APPSDIR is tasked to do, I cannot apply that criteria. If I wanted to give the Apps ADs a sense of what might qualify as a DISCUSS, I would use that criteria. If I wanted to give the WG a heads-up on a DISCUSS, I would use that criteria. BTW, a DISCUSS is only a problem if the author does not know how to address it. Best regards, -sm From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Sun Jun 3 12:37:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD3321F84B6 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 12:37:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NbVxDqGR1D7A for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 12:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE8721F84A7 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 12:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lbbgo11 with SMTP id go11so2893350lbb.31 for ; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:37:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GafJ1rrHw+bqQ9Zvr7rIWBJZ9Tp3RGMmIVMvC9rq6WM=; b=L9VqdLZnOa6iMRapcnGkK3fx+1w6P6ZXJbfchMTzRooIN9RVbNtqeBBcExIsJCwRXI aKlrUNrY1HXH2ewHMRN5FxBZgKPbQmwc89P3aJ6utOTc3Q9j8Fzw19ehyTQBNnDYR/Ht 3TmGDp59kv7AfrxE30i4kD5MZ0A5jSzO31fJeXuZBp+RBv5WSUIZT3bFbSZb25M5M7w3 IUA6oFVfQ8W2X73nl7iFGw099xKHs0tgdZkiNzLbSlUwqK6+0l6IKQ/HhT8emqBCiBHN efLYWUjMI5iAru54kWkExEgFfPu4jjvis4VhBiCO6r0FOQ2WJfvGbRGSDBltj70YL1mr 56/w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.98.231 with SMTP id el7mr4980586lbb.14.1338752231509; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.48.104 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 12:37:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20120603073843.09f288f0@resistor.net> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20120603073843.09f288f0@resistor.net> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:37:11 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VWtwSrstKzDSiEY67Rs0XwaCxGA Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: SM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] [apps-discuss] APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-codec-opus-14 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 19:37:13 -0000 >> This draft follows a quite unusual specification method: I see the real >> specification as is "a piece of software code", and the text specificati= on >> is intented as an extended "comment" to the software code itself. I >> personally do not have a strong opinion if this method is an acceptable = IETF >> practice; for sure it is the opposite of what's normally done, where the >> normative text gives instruction and suggestions on how to write the >> indipendent implementations (mostly software code) later on. If this is >> already common > > I'll comment on the above in general terms. =A0For some background, it wa= s > argued that draft-ietf-appsawg-about-uri-scheme cannot be a Proposed > Standard as interoperability cannot be demonstrated. =A0The source code i= s > normative for draft-ietf-codec-opus-14. =A0That rules out the two indepen= dent > implementations test which is the usual rule to determine whether a > specification is ok. I disagree. One can certainly use someone's source code as documentation to write entirely new source code on one's own. This is especially true if the programming language is different (but I think it can be done even if not). "Documentation" written as C code can be used to write an implementation in Java, or Ruby, or FORTRAN, and we could certainly consider those to be "independent" implementations. I've gotten about halfway through reviewing this document, and I think their approach is reasonable. I'm not sure what other ADs will think. Barry From sm@elandsys.com Sun Jun 3 14:02:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF2421F8620 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:02:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.56 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.56 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.039, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3X0IcgFr6AAe for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F06221F861A for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([41.136.236.146]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q53L1sKc017003 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:02:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1338757328; i=@elandsys.com; bh=Atxqd045bWDHf/AxPmgsOR0X7HF+viY85dAUFpNoV10=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=L8qoPKUznFwThbI4wQWhHJucF3VT9Pi78Hilt6LUQxh1rNYuwpkoUQrn1ORFPwDJ6 WrYylE8JowJwKc/HdsSa36phRDUN+7T7NpimA+VASkhnZprD6MVuCi7G7REZPGsBn/ d+3kS80IcYP0pe9ZhWN6XhFk8JzfRBZpeubajz40= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1338757328; i=@elandsys.com; bh=Atxqd045bWDHf/AxPmgsOR0X7HF+viY85dAUFpNoV10=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=KwDsj7lzBluxpx0AbOs7NRhQo7w0rbVQaZCaoIiAFPvUapbw7Km3mL+oHXbACmlb8 2KRiJbn5tpUK2aosB0Zyh5sqq8nOrP/IA2wVXJHOjkX0BL8ODamQ3Rq4Q5UVlnV9ac n1XvscKM/H013OBc7a0v3BtEBrpWRNGIDN2GSz6Y= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120603124907.09db0958@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 13:13:18 -0700 To: Barry Leiba From: SM In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.5.6.2.20120603073843.09f288f0@resistor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] [apps-discuss] APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-codec-opus-14 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 21:02:36 -0000 Hi Barry, At 12:37 03-06-2012, Barry Leiba wrote: >I disagree. One can certainly use someone's source code as >documentation to write entirely new source code on one's own. This is >especially true if the programming language is different (but I think >it can be done even if not). "Documentation" written as C code can be >used to write an implementation in Java, or Ruby, or FORTRAN, and we >could certainly consider those to be "independent" implementations. I'll say Yes to the argument as above approach is commonly used for open source software. Best regards, -sm From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Sun Jun 3 14:07:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E14B21F86C9 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:07:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id StvpyQPPv89r for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [IPv6:2001:760:0:158::29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FEC21F86C6 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it (mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it [140.105.201.3] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by cyrus.dir.garr.it (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q53L7ApT061008 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Jun 2012 23:07:11 +0200 (CEST) X-DomainKeys: Sendmail DomainKeys Filter v1.0.2 cyrus.dir.garr.it q53L7ApT061008 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=mail; d=garr.it; c=simple; q=dns; b=T5xe7jXwQG4IzeLec8LRUg7RcefBlwwJxRlig1lmQwZBNzeQ3kSRaZiYBSOUoRWud rnIP1zR/Ma6MWkYlHpBAelQF4GilV2Tunh8eJZQ6rTl3s5RRN8sR9NK9OT2bPVCsFKC iqu66SdxijbQHtEOWRrI9CiDKlc0CIEjI95UpmA= Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 23:07:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@mac-allocchio3.garrtest.units.it To: Barry Leiba In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <6.2.5.6.2.20120603073843.09f288f0@resistor.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-190201204-1338757631=:1791" Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, SM , Claudio Allocchio Subject: Re: [appsdir] [apps-discuss] APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-codec-opus-14 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 21:07:40 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-190201204-1338757631=:1791 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Barry Leiba wrote: >> I'll comment on the above in general terms.  For some background, it was >> argued that draft-ietf-appsawg-about-uri-scheme cannot be a Proposed >> Standard as interoperability cannot be demonstrated.  The source code is >> normative for draft-ietf-codec-opus-14.  That rules out the two independent >> implementations test which is the usual rule to determine whether a >> specification is ok. > > I disagree. One can certainly use someone's source code as > documentation to write entirely new source code on one's own. This is > especially true if the programming language is different (but I think > it can be done even if not). "Documentation" written as C code can be > used to write an implementation in Java, or Ruby, or FORTRAN, and we > could certainly consider those to be "independent" implementations. Sure, you can implement the codec using a different language and using the original C code as a flow-chart instead of a code itself... mmmh yes, why they did not wrote the detailed flow chart instead of the C code? I guess because it is much simpler and they had it already at hand. > I've gotten about halfway through reviewing this document, and I think > their approach is reasonable. As I said... "unusual approach", which does not mean "unreasonable approach". That's also why I suggested in case an IESG note about it in the document, just in case... > I'm not sure what other ADs will think. I'm also quite curious to see their opinion. > Barry > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca --0-190201204-1338757631=:1791-- From adrian@olddog.co.uk Mon Jun 4 13:59:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4A711E8106; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:59:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.099, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5CRN33ReseWb; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0196F11E807F; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q54KxGAg024610; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:59:16 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (ns-visitor-nsrp.juniper.net [208.223.208.242]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q54KxD57024588 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:59:14 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Murray S. Kucherawy'" , , , References: <9452079D1A51524AA5749AD23E00392812C442@exch-mbx901.corp.cloudmark.com> In-Reply-To: <9452079D1A51524AA5749AD23E00392812C442@exch-mbx901.corp.cloudmark.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:59:12 +0100 Message-ID: <014901cd4294$e6ba1440$b42e3cc0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQL7zXuqY6u57WJZ2IF/5Dzq5Xpj1ZSNik9Q Content-Language: en-gb X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:01:23 -0700 Cc: 'The IESG' Subject: Re: [appsdir] AppsDir review of draft-farrresnickel-ipr-sanctions X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:59:27 -0000 Hi Murray, Sorry for a delayed reply... > Summary: This document is ready for publication as an Informational > document, modulo my two issues for discussion below. > > Major Issues: > > 1. Should this not be a BCP?=A0 The polk draft describes ways to = encourage > compliance, while this one talks about penalties for = non-compliance.=A0 That > seems too severe for Informational status, while the polk draft can=20 > probably get away with it. My thinking was that this does not define any new process and doesn't = even recommend their use. It just makes sure people remember the options = exist. Barry seems to think "not a BCP" as well. Maybe we leave this to the IESG? > Minor Issues: > > 1. Are all the URL references in here permanent?=A0 I=92m not sure = about things > like [URLIESGIPR], for example, since it points to a wiki. I am not sure the URLs must be permanent. Sure we would like them to be = "stable" but the RFC Editor seems to say that a URL is acceptable where no better reference can be found. Additionally, this is "only" an Informative = reference. Can we leave this, and fix it if the RFC Editor complains? > Nits: Useful and accepted, except... > 3. Section 2.4: s/to be clearly understood/to be understood clearly/ This is largely stylistic and a lot of stuff is said about split = infinitives. Here I intended to stress clarity not understanding. I am sure the RFC Editor will apply house style. Thanks, Adrian From sm@elandsys.com Tue Jun 5 12:02:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA9B21F87A9 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:02:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.548 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.548 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.051, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4WC+eZ64uxBB for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B3421F8573 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([41.136.235.116]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q55J2OEE014264 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:02:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1338922963; i=@elandsys.com; bh=RgaTWHf6GoIaGf8FQlX/N8NBdLYNUyaROfBDrj+1/rE=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=JpXwElgMT9mqryajM2Uwm6wHzyRFTbLluEx+2dvB4WDFQP7zyHXLSqsYcYK70SqEH mw0k4Wjdq77pmEM81SHOHrViEoqcKL0vLe57C9jSaHMoIvm+BSbyxhGSpvNf7qOjai 3oVwrXfHaA3PxICjoVOt9XomrPXZLjT1Dw/QUbCw= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1338922963; i=@elandsys.com; bh=RgaTWHf6GoIaGf8FQlX/N8NBdLYNUyaROfBDrj+1/rE=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=E9xTjjJrgrh5mvX/SCFMwZUkeSyqEKQ4wE+mkF83v6x0HQWBtEemsCLbzxiwq4wRk xueXtkBfgfyuio6NJ3en8kmB6mAXTbfitFLr219QdtTZU6e0mGkzrsSHD9aaqF/zNc eUvlmx5bR4lVgKSSMjBsCqXMWQ3fVC8OA8JnIryY= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120605112751.08ca4960@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:31:16 -0700 To: Joseph Yee From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] Request for review: draft-melnikov-smtp-priority-tunneling-02 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 19:02:54 -0000 Hi Joseph, Could you review draft-melnikov-smtp-priority-tunneling-02 by June 28? You are one of the few APPSDIR (email) reviewers who is not listed in the Acknowledgement section. Best regards, -sm From sm@elandsys.com Tue Jun 5 14:43:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBCB21F8746 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:43:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.542 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.542 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.057, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7CvBQoRdS-ss for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AAF21F8760 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([41.136.235.116]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q55LhPgF022531 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:43:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1338932620; i=@elandsys.com; bh=KfB9zC1zu1LAPoYkPLCyhEmF7ZsHhYey49HjMxFqgU0=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=iDbSjKQUWJ+/LGgiKjQf2Flp52vjKEmx43aL9R3pl9Q2pd9YXI1UmmvYftzTAyJNf 43HsIp9FnmP+XyCF6LujpCTPPsGUPHMHnvLrHcrs26mwmPXNz6OBPKm2zq9/NjtGT5 5o7SAROKyaXhB0N/Sxd8wPGwIhM6Dmf7WYsV1/oE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1338932620; i=@elandsys.com; bh=KfB9zC1zu1LAPoYkPLCyhEmF7ZsHhYey49HjMxFqgU0=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=E8W6/HBUC6dpc0RNAscbQog4GVkQqUqSWFYdErN8rI7VTEFqZSJWEU7VKWW4CMZjA GmMvd8gE7alzozJ6WxYd7xWmu+EIEvJDZG3u1DohJMH9rhKOibMxiRuUKdf7QFrWbj v9y/GNaJxZHsltojNcjCUke5/ZIeNVmNCoS0PVNE= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120605133909.0aef7810@resistor.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:31:22 -0700 To: appsdir@ietf.org From: SM In-Reply-To: <4FCDE96E.5000109@cs.tcd.ie> References: <4FCDD499.7060206@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <4FCDE96E.5000109@cs.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_J=2E_D=FCrst=22?= Subject: Re: [appsdir] [apps-discuss] APPSDIR review of draft-farrell-decade-ni-07 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 21:43:48 -0000 At 04:11 05-06-2012, Stephen Farrell wrote: >There was no such comment on the uri-review list and the designated >expert was happy. That review was IMO the time for such comments >and second-guessing the designated expert at this stage seems >contrary to the registration requirements. So process-wise I >think your main comment is late. One of the listed APPSDIR tasks is to make sure that technologies developed in the Applications Area or about which Application Area participants have expertise (URIs/IRIs) are used appropriately in other areas. The guidelines for registering new URI schemes are documented in BCP 115. I don't doubt the expertise of the reviewer. I am looking at the process angle here. It can be a problem if the directorate gets into a controversy about the decision taken by a designated expert. It's not a problem if an individual does that. Best regards, -sm From jyee@afilias.info Wed Jun 6 06:17:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE0021F8860 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 06:17:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.643 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.643 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WvxZcn15NmqC for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 06:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound.afilias.info (outbound.afilias.info [69.46.124.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE4821F8858 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 06:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms6.yyz2.afilias-ops.info ([10.50.129.112] helo=smtp.afilias.info) by outbound.afilias.info with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ScG7Z-0000Ct-8u for appsdir@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:17:57 +0000 Received: from mail-vc0-f178.google.com ([209.85.220.178]) by smtp.afilias.info with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ScG7Z-0004jA-8J for appsdir@ietf.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:17:57 +0000 Received: by vcdm8 with SMTP id m8so4070276vcd.9 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 06:17:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=fZ+u5LsO8MqgQAfnZ4or+QJ1xIIfYvks+y9aPygK9wQ=; b=lgtlKX+wWP8qv8mcQn1N1x8IHfgfdUlouhlWwYTlurX6077ggPdTI2NFy6MNTR8WSt 89nFBYBSjNZ4hCbb9pJ4sV+3zzuTnGv0Qi/LwAhhDOFvR9HZQ605wZdnFpqYPyWmOX0e N+0fC0BmyZ7uTSVqrYQb6nNZKjFr4rqqOlol1MQFAu0s4CW830UhJFRktCMjqAWX1ZH/ buaB/Ihbg34xaJtZ6McHKuNcaKe3ZqigwVxkC6el40SdoN/vLzVabXxk3tvYMDorYU80 KADCXkqWoyurRISNibJfHyierv7gB3PG3FQ4Pc96it7IcbkMsWn3reRw0gnKTOY2sVtD gc3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.72.73 with SMTP id b9mr17891105vdv.34.1338988676794; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 06:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.158.34 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 06:17:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20120605112751.08ca4960@elandnews.com> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20120605112751.08ca4960@elandnews.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:17:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: Joseph Yee To: SM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkCfMBYEtjIcwCd7dRNBUdRg80nfEk72SmmZeVqd6Po6eNjdc4w7YNao95mFo7gq1/JSXxg Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for review: draft-melnikov-smtp-priority-tunneling-02 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:17:59 -0000 Hi SM, Yes, I will review the doc. Thanks Joseph On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:31 PM, SM wrote: > Hi Joseph, > > Could you review draft-melnikov-smtp-priority-tunneling-02 by June 28? = =C2=A0You > are one of the few APPSDIR (email) reviewers who is not listed in the > Acknowledgement section. > > Best regards, > -sm > From sm@elandsys.com Thu Jun 14 16:17:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC1911E808F for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:17:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.003, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fsb4XZ9hDRhK for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA1011E8072 for ; 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charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] Assignment reminder for June 14 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:17:28 -0000 Hello, This is a gentle reminder about the assignments which are due by June 14: draft-ietf-idr-rfc4893bis-06 - Ted draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484bis-05 - Carsten draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-meas-identity-06 - Sal draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bis-09 - Dave Crocker Best regards, -sm From masinter@adobe.com Mon Jun 18 06:49:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311C521F8643 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:49:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.143 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.143 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FRT_ADOBE2=2.455, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NzJ3+3JypXF6 for ; 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format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for review: draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lbyr-uri-option-15 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:28:48 -0000 Hi Larry, At 06:49 18-06-2012, Larry Masinter wrote: >im running late on this... it needs work and i wont be done for another week. Thanks for the notification. Teh assignment can wait one more week as it's not on this week's IESG Telechat. Best regards, -sm From sm@elandsys.com Thu Jun 28 14:15:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D54E21F8551 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:15:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tcmCmLkNJ9kF for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0351721F8566 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([41.136.233.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5SLEZWc028381 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:14:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1340918090; bh=cvCk9xeE8nbKiWCjIsjOy30rS5eVieKdcbCBm1CIMeo=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=QcVEfGxaetkG1/RozCvoxUbzUKeCkKNdpZS0mkHie0vIPXNGvSRLSmOR6HWRROmbk cMStO3Qng0tCVSaJEXBHHx8ClG4roafdy9xGUFHN1y8QQhbiRLatYciPAdx+8ZGgll Tfu+s0/Ozo79XAr4vRnLCqmiHh7lw9iAGzg7SL5Y= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1340918090; i=@elandsys.com; bh=cvCk9xeE8nbKiWCjIsjOy30rS5eVieKdcbCBm1CIMeo=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=WMv8xMpHvtOH78NWZ4KqiIVqyHg1UlVw/0nyt/XwWIqlJ86y9ZZlOOTTxpoIcFaXM Wfk9ZFoWCumuQpeZqV4CwAgF5vLhiBRBBDNyzeLJUoV/mRdJ5RQ+KeuhXkSaLA742+ 9ne6LmfWbdXwxsPJlA9hU9GkBbUUf182uIQr0iBs= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20120628135417.0cd65a10@resistor.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:56:45 -0700 To: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) From: SM In-Reply-To: References: <9452079D1A51524AA5749AD23E00392812B6B6@exch-mbx901.corp.cloudmark.com> <4FEA6677.3020705@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <6.2.5.6.2.20120626224534.0a8b4298@resistor.net> <4FEB3060.1040805@ninebynine.org> <1340818030.8183.YahooMailNeo@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <047501cd54ae$c6848a30$538d9e90$@packetizer.com> <4E1F6AAD24975D4BA5B16804296739436656BCF0@TK5EX14MBXC283.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> <049e01cd54b0$89925ba0$9cb712e0$@packetizer.com> <6AF4CA7B-A7BC-47C7-8781-63DA7F4DB42D@ve7jtb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] [apps-discuss] The acct: scheme question X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:15:00 -0000 Hi Henry, At 07:57 28-06-2012, Henry S. Thompson wrote: >As the informal TAG liaison here, I should make clear that the TAG has >no _official_ standing from which to "raise a blocking objection". > >_In extremis_ the TAG chair might make an appeal on some IETF list wrt >some issue of architectural concern, or might contact his/her opposite >number on the IAB, or might feed something in to the official W3C/IETF >liaison call. You can always do an APPSDIR review if you do not want your comments to bear more weight. :-) Best regards, -sm