From sm@elandsys.com Tue Apr 2 02:11:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0E221F9897 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 02:11:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BCNDN9mRfRWX for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 02:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB08521F9892 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 02:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.142.193]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3299r1A017759 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Apr 2013 02:10:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1364893812; bh=3HiX6DiWt7cOsgUwJiRwIr9abuD+hE8nmwdyNUaS1E0=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=HVbzl0cqqlhv1Qw/bKAXyzGuuEM8BtoMCV2GjBttJc6su49rfAJtBQDj4wIP/3+9D aucgimC9rQOSGAaIu/JdtuvOsXGQN6N4t9Vl3CKHENR29euS/feSUj1x0wjQdpVLQb wJIgl3ehO6OeeUtmXqnltteTFaTcL/vmMAm0A2JQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1364893812; i=@elandsys.com; bh=3HiX6DiWt7cOsgUwJiRwIr9abuD+hE8nmwdyNUaS1E0=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=vtdxy0x92yLxu1sRqIY2qo7WOhBXcRC+nvpZ+8bGb/AeQh5FTvlhz462TyZ5JID2e nlSZAIGYbFdSHDStIgiGqPmFDEaCP1eswea+yVlmVmK+9ll5dfkGZLYiVgXt4EaKnY 2wISZaXNLMgpf4iXdabIi/byfDHztAQ2hx3HtfOs= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130402015852.0b2ea920@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 02:08:21 -0700 To: Yoshiro YONEYA , Jiankang YAO , Joseph Yee , Mark Nottingham , Bert Greevenbosch , "Vijay K. Gurbani" , Ted Hardie , ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] Request for AppsDir review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:11:26 -0000 Hello, Here are the assignments. Please send me an acknowledgement. :-) The template is at http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/template Due date: April 12 draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-algo-signal-09 - Yoshiro Yoneya draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-14 - (self) draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-25 - i8n - Jiankang Yao draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530bis-dot-x-16 - Joseph Yee draft-ietf-pcp-upnp-igd-interworking-07 - Vijay draft-ietf-pkix-rfc2560bis-15 - HTTP - Mark draft-ietf-tls-multiple-cert-status-extension-04- Bert draft-ietf-6renum-gap-analysis-05 - IPv6 - Ted draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location-04 - XML - Henry Best regards, -sm From mnot@mnot.net Thu Apr 4 00:15:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33A321F9457 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 00:15:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-4.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gRvsDwih0PjU for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 00:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout-07.mxes.net (mxout-07.mxes.net [216.86.168.182]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D442421F945E for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 00:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mnot-mini.mnot.net (unknown [118.209.42.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C499322E253; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 03:15:14 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) From: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20130402015852.0b2ea920@elandnews.com> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:15:11 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3D866327-A6DF-461B-A018-CA554DB0B444@mnot.net> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130402015852.0b2ea920@elandnews.com> To: SM X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for AppsDir review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 07:15:23 -0000 Hi Sm, On 02/04/2013, at 8:08 PM, SM wrote: > draft-ietf-pkix-rfc2560bis-15 - HTTP - Mark I'm not really sure I can add much here; the only HTTP-related portion = is Appendix A, and very little has changed in there from the published = RFCs for OCSP, AFAICT.=20 I'm happy to explain why this is a poor use of HTTP, but since it's = already published and deployed, doing so would be of dubious utility... Cheers, -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ From sm@elandsys.com Thu Apr 4 03:39:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38B721F9607 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 03:39:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.927 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.927 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.628, BAYES_00=-2.599, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=0.044, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3p8z8UyTIK6u for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 03:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E6621F866E for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 03:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.147.231]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r34AdURt015612 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Apr 2013 03:39:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1365071982; bh=HylEZ9YQQOjQKFfaQX6BvxDz+gNunts/BgpeDSORyCs=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=P9rLlmWiVxkJcGV3+7hO6KLpkZ8GxnDMp8kUWc2ACGSLVzshhRPkBUtsdejm5MyyR xvbAA8KYh2EoPQLL3rR8KhtiP96iOVpRDQk5spQZtKubQR5t2FNX9LFDyfoBp5UZWf WvgxZcnPKAwccaphd6J6sg9Qz2P070YOt08mOvd8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1365071982; i=@elandsys.com; bh=HylEZ9YQQOjQKFfaQX6BvxDz+gNunts/BgpeDSORyCs=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=GS1YqKJPzx4mx6KObd8nyzylWg5/9PEKSKG+7xYofqTVhk9SrOL6k69P9+qZgMEYR mkUiryUWCyErNK35fn4bhOU29n8O0UeIuRCxMxRNwhjXV8w/mRrdoGtRJzpR8ihrGa bWs4brJ+sBz2015w9JQz/G9MTFfnbscts30tPH3s= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130404002804.0c875b58@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 00:37:29 -0700 To: Mark Nottingham From: SM In-Reply-To: <3D866327-A6DF-461B-A018-CA554DB0B444@mnot.net> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130402015852.0b2ea920@elandnews.com> <3D866327-A6DF-461B-A018-CA554DB0B444@mnot.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for AppsDir review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 10:39:44 -0000 Hi Mark, At 00:15 04-04-2013, Mark Nottingham wrote: >I'm not really sure I can add much here; the only HTTP-related >portion is Appendix A, and very little has changed in there from the >published RFCs for OCSP, AFAICT. > >I'm happy to explain why this is a poor use of HTTP, but since it's >already published and deployed, doing so would be of dubious utility... Thanks for the explanation. Let's not go forward with the review of draft-ietf-pkix-rfc2560bis-15. I'll leave it to the Apps ADs to override if they would like to have the AppsDir review. Best regards, -sm From sm@elandsys.com Wed Apr 10 13:23:05 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486C221F92F2 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:23:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oJ62ycW3Al9T for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762A621F91CE for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.226.234.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3AKMcFY016727 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:22:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1365625369; bh=II90KOpFMPTaVjOPNDFEY2eotQwh37diL1xILITsMz4=; h=Date:To:From:Subject; b=0T3914oweBPcDMpNpxWsyxC6OzzZ72Y1drhYYcPfdraxslF8hjfsEVjhCwKXzXN0q 9TA1Q+YEZ9F4VGqMhB2stjxZAR69NZ+BzPS7YOtlQlatoxGMfVhHbGztGGtaAkN9ao pKu+SmgfaHsDgdlEbdIwto0Ykj+Rosv4qPPlTeMQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1365625369; i=@elandsys.com; bh=II90KOpFMPTaVjOPNDFEY2eotQwh37diL1xILITsMz4=; h=Date:To:From:Subject; b=NG6QbHox9NzG7fL80i9zaBrieg/ABWa7QXDMMc38Fv+5mZjv9Au+aRc+RN0FBRI/O 8HkH/a5ap0WNt/FaR0gdC7GwzS4Q6IEJ2/FrnpKskdM7tewCx3iGryVlmg4z5mKqtp bdu+5NJcC7t2KfaYv4LyHkaH7mTo0kPRO6tHINEg= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130410122106.0ca7cc50@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:22:28 -0700 To: appsdir@ietf.org From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [appsdir] Team Lead for AppsDir X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:23:05 -0000 Hello, During the last meeting I discussed with the Apps ADs about having another Team Lead. The idea is to give another person the opportunity to lead the team. There is an expectation that person will deliver the AppsDir reviews. It was suggested to have a three-month rotation so that several persons can gain the experience. I will continue as Team Lead; i.e. there will be two Team Leads. The person selected by the Apps ADs would take full responsibility and I would be helping out. The time commitment is two hours a week or less. I usually read all the drafts listed for Last Call and identify reviewers. For example, if a draft has a HTTP angle I suggest someone with HTTP expertise. I also read each review which is posted. Please comment about the above. Best regards, -sm From eburger@standardstrack.com Wed Apr 10 13:51:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED2C21F9350 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:51:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uzPq-FfFDJXX for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biz104.inmotionhosting.com (biz104.inmotionhosting.com [173.247.246.237]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D4821F9339 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 255.sub-174-252-113.myvzw.com ([174.252.113.255]:1858 helo=biz104.inmotionhosting.com) by biz104.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UQ1ym-0002CG-24; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:50:59 -0700 Message-ID: <0296904b-3a1d-41ac-a8a7-d02c4abe3803@blur> From: "Eric Burger" To: SM, appsdir@ietf.org Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 16:51:09 -0400 X-Mailer: Motorola android mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130410122106.0ca7cc50@elandnews.com> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20130410122106.0ca7cc50@elandnews.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Motorola-A-Mail-G0-gdrb2_klx606z" X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz104.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: biz104.inmotionhosting.com: authenticated_id: eburger+standardstrack.com/only user confirmed/virtual account not confirmed X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [appsdir] Team Lead for AppsDir X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:51:26 -0000 --Motorola-A-Mail-G0-gdrb2_klx606z Content-Type: text/plain; Format="Flowed"; DelSp="Yes"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great idea, especially if it isn't me! -- Sent from my mobile device. Thanks be to lemonade! http://www.standardstrack.com/ietf/lemonade/ -----Original message----- From: SM To: appsdir@ietf.org Sent: Wed, Apr 10, 2013 20:25:08 GMT+00:00 Subject: [appsdir] Team Lead for AppsDir Hello, During the last meeting I discussed with the Apps ADs about having another Team Lead. The idea is to give another person the opportunity to lead the team. There is an expectation that person will deliver the AppsDir reviews. It was suggested to have a three-month rotation so that several persons can gain the experience. I will continue as Team Lead; i.e. there will be two Team Leads. The person selected by the Apps ADs would take full responsibility and I would be helping out. The time commitment is two hours a week or less. I usually read all the drafts listed for Last Call and identify reviewers. For example, if a draft has a HTTP angle I suggest someone with HTTP expertise. I also read each review which is posted. Please comment about the above. Best regards, -sm _______________________________________________ appsdir mailing list appsdir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir --Motorola-A-Mail-G0-gdrb2_klx606z Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PHN0eWxlIHR5cGU9InRleHQvY3NzIj5ib2R5IHt3b3JkLXdyYXA6IGJyZWFr LXdvcmQ7IGJhY2tncm91bmQtY29sb3I6I2ZmZmZmZjt9PC9zdHlsZT48L2hlYWQ+PGJvZHk+PGRp diBzdHlsZT0iZm9udC1mYW1pbHk6IHNhbnMtc2VyaWY7IGZvbnQtc2l6ZTogMTZweCI+R3JlYXQg aWRlYSwgZXNwZWNpYWxseSBpZiBpdCBpc24ndCBtZSE8YnI+PGJyPi0tPGJyPlNlbnQgZnJvbSBt eSBtb2JpbGUgZGV2aWNlLiBUaGFua3MgYmUgdG8gbGVtb25hZGUhIDxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93 d3cuc3RhbmRhcmRzdHJhY2suY29tL2lldGYvbGVtb25hZGUvIj5odHRwOi8vd3d3LnN0YW5kYXJk c3RyYWNrLmNvbS9pZXRmL2xlbW9uYWRlLzwvYT48L2Rpdj48YnI+PGJyPi0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwg bWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tPGJyPjxibG9ja3F1b3RlIHN0eWxlPSI7IGJvcmRlci1sZWZ0OiAycHggc29s aWQgcmdiKDE2LCAxNiwgMjU1KTsgbWFyZ2luLWxlZnQ6IDVweDsgcGFkZGluZy1sZWZ0OiA1cHg7 Ij48ZGl2IHN0eWxlPSJmb250LWZhbWlseTogc2Fucy1zZXJpZjsgZm9udC1zaXplOiAxNHB4Ij48 Yj5Gcm9tOiA8L2I+U00gJmx0O3NtK2lldGZAZWxhbmRzeXMuY29tJmd0OzxiPjxicj5UbzogPC9i PmFwcHNkaXJAaWV0Zi5vcmc8Yj48YnI+U2VudDogPC9iPldlZCwgQXByIDEwLCAyMDEzIDIwOjI1 OjA4IEdNVCswMDowMDxiPjxicj5TdWJqZWN0OiA8L2I+W2FwcHNkaXJdIFRlYW0gTGVhZCBmb3Ig QXBwc0Rpcjxicj48YnI+PC9kaXY+SGVsbG8sPGJyPjxicj5EdXJpbmcgdGhlIGxhc3QgbWVldGlu ZyBJIGRpc2N1c3NlZCB3aXRoIHRoZSBBcHBzIEFEcyBhYm91dCBoYXZpbmcgPGJyPmFub3RoZXIg VGVhbSBMZWFkLiAgVGhlIGlkZWEgaXMgdG8gZ2l2ZSBhbm90aGVyIHBlcnNvbiB0aGUgPGJyPm9w cG9ydHVuaXR5IHRvIGxlYWQgdGhlIHRlYW0uICBUaGVyZSBpcyBhbiBleHBlY3RhdGlvbiB0aGF0 IHBlcnNvbiA8YnI+d2lsbCBkZWxpdmVyIHRoZSBBcHBzRGlyIHJldmlld3MuPGJyPjxicj5JdCB3 YXMgc3VnZ2VzdGVkIHRvIGhhdmUgYSB0aHJlZS1tb250aCByb3RhdGlvbiBzbyB0aGF0IHNldmVy YWwgPGJyPnBlcnNvbnMgY2FuIGdhaW4gdGhlIGV4cGVyaWVuY2UuICBJIHdpbGwgY29udGludWUg YXMgVGVhbSBMZWFkOyBpLmUuIDxicj50aGVyZSB3aWxsIGJlIHR3byBUZWFtIExlYWRzLiAgVGhl IHBlcnNvbiBzZWxlY3RlZCBieSB0aGUgQXBwcyBBRHMgPGJyPndvdWxkIHRha2UgZnVsbCByZXNw b25zaWJpbGl0eSBhbmQgSSB3b3VsZCBiZSBoZWxwaW5nIG91dC48YnI+PGJyPlRoZSB0aW1lIGNv bW1pdG1lbnQgaXMgdHdvIGhvdXJzIGEgd2VlayBvciBsZXNzLiAgSSB1c3VhbGx5IHJlYWQgYWxs IDxicj50aGUgZHJhZnRzIGxpc3RlZCBmb3IgTGFzdCBDYWxsIGFuZCBpZGVudGlmeSByZXZpZXdl cnMuICBGb3IgZXhhbXBsZSwgPGJyPmlmIGEgZHJhZnQgaGFzIGEgSFRUUCBhbmdsZSBJIHN1Z2dl c3Qgc29tZW9uZSB3aXRoIEhUVFAgZXhwZXJ0aXNlLiAgSSA8YnI+YWxzbyByZWFkIGVhY2ggcmV2 aWV3IHdoaWNoIGlzIHBvc3RlZC48YnI+PGJyPlBsZWFzZSBjb21tZW50IGFib3V0IHRoZSBhYm92 ZS48YnI+PGJyPkJlc3QgcmVnYXJkcyw8YnI+LXNtPGJyPjxicj5fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXzxicj5hcHBzZGlyIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdDxicj5h cHBzZGlyQGlldGYub3JnPGJyPjxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4v bGlzdGluZm8vYXBwc2RpciI+aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaWV0Zi5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9h cHBzZGlyPC9hPjxicj48L2Jsb2NrcXVvdGU+PC9ib2R5PjwvaHRtbD4NCg== --Motorola-A-Mail-G0-gdrb2_klx606z-- From stpeter@stpeter.im Wed Apr 10 13:51:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B789021F93B4 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:51:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60B1iO4ZuH4B for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0181921F92E8 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.129.24.115] (unknown [128.107.239.235]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0D63E40E4B for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:01:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5165D0D8.2090403@stpeter.im> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:51:36 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: appsdir@ietf.org References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130410122106.0ca7cc50@elandnews.com> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20130410122106.0ca7cc50@elandnews.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [appsdir] Team Lead for AppsDir X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:51:47 -0000 Hi SM! I think it is a good idea to have two team leads for AppsDir. First, you've been doing it on your own for a long time, so you have gained knowledge about how it works and could pass that on to someone else. Plus it shouldn't be a commitment to the role forever. :-) Peter On 4/10/13 2:22 PM, SM wrote: > Hello, > > During the last meeting I discussed with the Apps ADs about having > another Team Lead. The idea is to give another person the opportunity > to lead the team. There is an expectation that person will deliver the > AppsDir reviews. > > It was suggested to have a three-month rotation so that several persons > can gain the experience. I will continue as Team Lead; i.e. there will > be two Team Leads. The person selected by the Apps ADs would take full > responsibility and I would be helping out. > > The time commitment is two hours a week or less. I usually read all the > drafts listed for Last Call and identify reviewers. For example, if a > draft has a HTTP angle I suggest someone with HTTP expertise. I also > read each review which is posted. > > Please comment about the above. > > Best regards, > -sm > From sm@elandsys.com Mon Apr 15 23:57:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A4621F9653 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 23:57:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rkiYG+2cRH4O for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 23:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C68D21F9652 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 23:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.138.179]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3G6unn0022178 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 23:56:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1366095420; bh=SS4+dyo+zfZ+mDs/pyCgVsG5hT+ce3QMQHaXFmA+Y3k=; h=Date:To:From:Subject; b=eKHRWN7zfkuTAixg4XMZCnBwTcCdLd+v0oMZ/Z8zHod9Vfva2JFHFG+VbNX7AQNyR WBUnT6yxoOCszDPFSrTqZD9tYutZsfEh3svbr3xcCfSX+Je/n1LRbvPWLFUsJLPuDu F7znPTR0W58lK7nCfnEwDiDTHlNEv8cvnBPBGh3A= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1366095420; i=@elandsys.com; bh=SS4+dyo+zfZ+mDs/pyCgVsG5hT+ce3QMQHaXFmA+Y3k=; h=Date:To:From:Subject; b=gsypqbiCev/0tfbr1kWT/enh+K/nnKGxIE87EUZKcWg27z0luB+f0OwnInNuLW588 m56BLUtiYs92GjSThu5TSAJpuAR47JjiGi15KvAGqNhRknJAh80qnE89O2d4BtEwO1 02+O1dqv1nymNkF7r6SUGQPD92PrgFbhaFf529ms= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130415233202.06aea308@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 23:40:57 -0700 To: appsdir@ietf.org From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [appsdir] Tentative list of drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 06:57:02 -0000 Hello, Here is the tentative list of drafts for review: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06 (IPv6) draft-ietf-karp-crypto-key-table-07 draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-mib-06 draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection-05 draft-sheffer-running-code-04 draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch-06 Please email me if you have any preference. Best regards, -sm From sm@elandsys.com Tue Apr 16 11:03:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8CD21F9718 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:03:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g2gUydEBe31G for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA8221F9717 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.138.179]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3GI2DL9028481 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:02:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1366135347; bh=D6AmBuvXYe1HaIJBkyfnQ0DPdiHZjQSXdws248GqK0Q=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=fvZecys6UcSoZoEPhmlPKuBwcWmnxfg7jVYKuyTFFYKSwJEfHFxTcfcFe0+5KHEpX QIw1ueujdkjKWyH04ADVt99oTf58JN91GgtAeQJAm+PAV45Ip4TvyG2qaaaHLX8nWD eWpK0GcHCLTJUiJUL/Y/6ODvI4qP+wSEBB8uYRh8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1366135347; i=@elandsys.com; bh=D6AmBuvXYe1HaIJBkyfnQ0DPdiHZjQSXdws248GqK0Q=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=2IDp1chLFySe9aG3+osackpw2EYs5rfRGcCkesstZN0v7r8ene5hdSZVQufKRB/GI q2+vGdk8+Wt4LNiUrzhlz0+0qIlC4hK2u9zHg/3efdHk+aerm9AzPyirY64Nzluc/K tZyxeAE0HETmziALf8gRUtWn/SHpyztFBIyBbJAY= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130416103032.0ce11b58@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:41:08 -0700 To: Mark Nottingham From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: oauth-chairs@tools.ietf.org, appsdir@ietf.org, Stephen Farrell Subject: [appsdir] Request for review: draft-ietf-oauth-revocation-07 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 18:03:48 -0000 Hi Mark, Could you review draft-ietf-oauth-revocation-07? The deadline is April 26. Please also copy the review to oauth@ietf.org (see below for explanation). There was a request to look into how to properly describe how clients handle HTTP 5xx responses and also in how they don't care about the body of a 200 response. Could you please see about that in the review? Thanks, -sm From sm@elandsys.com Tue Apr 16 16:15:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC2921F94A9 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:15:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XIuOJkTpA0zU for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E0C21F91D9 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.138.179]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3GNEFnd005712 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:14:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1366154071; bh=B0jT8oHSVLSieEXoqkJ2MNO09ngL11OkXmRSvFil648=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=WLMRs6M05WDxI8S7DB0U5Y4jZOw3ToRP2+Z4mDNEZjDpSy7YcXeCTGyvAyqwDivxv dPtdUhDUfRagdvjS0oK8FpF6V5pbDiqeVwwD59fOoC++JcU5YM1ayl84DkSHKIpbfg dsjOnKeAHfUnH68VDuBOAK0wr9f47A9XCKZy0Pfo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1366154071; i=@elandsys.com; bh=B0jT8oHSVLSieEXoqkJ2MNO09ngL11OkXmRSvFil648=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=0Tb/LUpj4jRvRGdmGHE5jLl6/6G9F1LI276eyq3Br9tus1N6TNfubYx+0R5pzv5af aS3152wrh0U2nYlu8giKEwFThyYm/EHoT6HVNBtRStS8RE7jVkItbn1jHvE1Fl84b4 7Kszqwsc37SrlfuhpEd6iuLwGskKKnDyt2eKEq/g= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130416153600.0cee6358@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:51:41 -0700 To: Eliot Lear , He Xuan , Ray Polk , Tobias Gondrom , Tony Hansen , Glenn Parsons , Dave Crocker From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] Request for AppsDir review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:15:00 -0000 Hello, Here are the assignments. Please send me an=20 acknowledgement. :-) The template is at=20 http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/template Due date: April 24 draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-mib-06 - Tony draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ring-protection-05 - Glenn draft-sheffer-running-code-04 - Dave Crocker draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch-06 - Martin D=FCrst Due date: April 26 draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06 - Eliot and Xuan He (joint review) draft-ietf-karp-crypto-key-table-07 - Ray Polk and Tobias (joint review) Best regards, -sm From ht@inf.ed.ac.uk Wed Apr 17 08:02:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEA721F85B3; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:02:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_23=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f5zfAm914VDr; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from treacle.ucs.ed.ac.uk (treacle.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.16.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E9D21F8564; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.33.33]) by treacle.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r3HF2iWY005855; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:02:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from calexico.inf.ed.ac.uk (calexico.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.24.15]) by nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r3HF2j2n015914; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:02:45 +0100 Received: from calexico.inf.ed.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calexico.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3HF2jwx006980; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:02:45 +0100 Received: (from ht@localhost) by calexico.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id r3HF2jnC006976; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:02:45 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: calexico.inf.ed.ac.uk: ht set sender to ht@inf.ed.ac.uk using -f To: apps-discuss@ietf.org, draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location.all@tools.ietf.org From: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:02:44 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.101 (Gnus v5.10.10) XEmacs/21.5-b32 (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Edinburgh-Scanned: at treacle.ucs.ed.ac.uk with MIMEDefang 2.60, Sophie, Sophos Anti-Virus, Clam AntiVirus X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.60 on 129.215.16.102 Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] Appsdir review of draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:02:55 -0000 I have been selected as the Applications Area Review Team reviewer for this draft (for background on apps-review, please see http://www.apps.ietf.org/content/applications-area-review-team). Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive. Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before posting a new version of the draft. Document: draft-ietf-geopriv-relative-location Title: Relative Location Representation Reviewer: Henry S. Thompson Review Date: 2013-04-16 Summary: This draft is almost ready for publication as a Proposed Standard but has a few issues that should be fixed before publication Minor Issues: 3 The use of the phrases '"baseline" location' and '"reference" location' to mean the same thing (?) is confusing in the extreme (as is the fact that sometimes the phrase includes scare-quotes, but sometimes not). For example, in the following, what is meant to be the difference between the two highlighted phrases? "In particular, while it is possible to put all location information into the 'reference' location (leaving an ^^^^^^^^^ universally broad 'baseline'), location objects SHOULD NOT have all location information in the baseline location. Doing this ^^^^^^^^ would cause clients that do not understand relative location to incorrectly interpret the baseline location (i.e., the reference point) as the actual, precise location of the client." Furthermore wrt this passage, either I'm confused, or there's a mistake at the second highlighted point. I was expecting "relative", not "baseline" (or "reference"). After all, if all the information is in the baseline, then there is no information in the relative part, and so not processing it misses nothing??? Ah, repeated re-readings have uncovered the origin of the problem, further back: "A client that does understand this extension will interpret the location within the relative element as a refinement of the baseline location, which gives the reference location for the relative offset." I read that the first five times as if it were bracketed like this: [a refinement of [the baseline location, which gives the reference location for the relative offset]]. But you mean it as if it were bracketed like this: [a refinement of the baseline location], [which gives the reference location for the relative offset]. So, I suggest you rephrase the whole sentence along the following lines: "A client that does understand this extension will interpret the location within the relative element as a refinement of the baseline location. The resulting refined location then gives the reference location for the relative offset." With that change, the paragraph containing the first quote above (the para beginning "The baseline location SHOULD be general enough") is comprehensible, but still very dense. I know illustrations are hard when one is restricted to ASCII-art, but a pair of examples would be a great help here, where one obeys the rules, and is not understood wrongly by a non-extension-supporting app, but the other breaks the rules, and therefore liable to be interpreted wrongly by such an app. And, finally, perhaps just _after_ the example now at the end of this section, just a brief gloss along the lines of The baseline location, given by the first ca:civicAddress element, the first child of the gp:location-info, is a street address, to the level of detail of the house number (123). The reference location is [now the front door, something else if you fix the 5.1 issue below]. The actual location, which is still within the baseline building, is a point 100m east and 50m north [?] of the front door. 4.11.1 "An 'http:' or 'https:' URL MUST be used unless . . ." Wouldn't it be more in the spirit of 2119 to say "A URI with scheme other than 'http:' or 'https:' SHOULD NOT be used unless" ? 5.1 Civic PIDF with Polygon Offset [also at end of section 3] This example uses the ca:INT element, which as far as I can tell is only defined in the expired draft-rosen-geopriv-pidf-interior [1]. It would be better to adjust the example so that it uses elements and validates with schema documents all of which can be found in current RFCs. 5.2 Geo PIDF with Circle Offset Once the cut-and-paste error identified below in the 'Nits' section is fixed, the result has 4 schema-validity errors, all of which I presume should be straightforward to correct: ex5.xml:14:4: Invalid per cvc-complex-type.1.2.4 : element {http://www.opengis.net/gml}:radius not allowed here (5) in element {http://www.opengis.net/pidflo/1.0}:Circle, expecting {http://www.opengis.net/pidflo/1.0}:radius ex5.xml:25:6: Invalid per cvc-complex-type.1.2.4 : element {http://www.opengis.net/gml}:Circle not allowed here (1) in element {urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:pidf:geopriv10:relative}:offset, expecting {http://www.opengis.net/gml}:OrientableCurve,..., {http://www.opengis.net/gml}:LineString ex5.xml:25:6: Invalid per cvc-complex-type.1.3 : undeclared attribute {None}:srsName ex5.xml:28:3: Invalid per cvc-complex-type.1.2.4 : element {http://www.opengis.net/gml}:radius not allowed here (4) in element {http://www.opengis.net/gml}:Circle, expecting {http://www.opengis.net/gml}:pos, {http://www.opengis.net/gml}:pointProperty, {http://www.opengis.net/gml}:pointRep,$ Nits: 5.1, 5.2 [examples] These examples rely on schema documents which require moderately tedious indirection via the XML registry [2] to find -- it would be helpful if the references section at least included the relevant RFCs, at least 3863, 4479 and 5139. 5.2 --> There are a number of spurious lines at the end of the example, which don't match anything at the beginning and render the whole thing non-well-formed: 2003-06-22T20:57:29Z ??? 6. Schema Definition The repeated pattern used for complex type definition in this schema doc is as follows: ... This is overly . . . complex and invites confusion, as it is strictly equivalent to the much simpler ... Please simplify all your complex type definitions along these lines. [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rosen-geopriv-pidf-interior/ [2] http://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/xml-registry.xml -- Henry S. Thompson, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh 10 Crichton Street, Edinburgh EH8 9AB, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ [mail from me _always_ has a .sig like this -- mail without it is forged spam] From sm@elandsys.com Wed Apr 17 13:32:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5125521E80A1 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:32:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wio+DTIUEwAO for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A821821E80A0 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.133.137]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3HKWDdJ028759 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:32:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1366230745; bh=Oz++IJClSpMl6A0es7+d3Ygecqa6RRYrWdaDU7Pm/40=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=S+RPzSGi2Klc1JVpDYHQnCn5zuxT4Q+rjzzfgh0sorC3pkqHNHPdGLQ9bzmCrg7wu X0xn1+da6c3CPFYlpRSV1lsSEnFrfM+sJrWsxwRrh6un7ER0xaHcbUAK2IREakqpQA bPo1k36SzAYIpDr6Z2q3RoSgOfQ/ylzlyNIWBKYI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1366230745; i=@elandsys.com; bh=Oz++IJClSpMl6A0es7+d3Ygecqa6RRYrWdaDU7Pm/40=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=mzeH8nc04ahbH1ExDvGSXIeP0PKRcwnkPlV7Wep7ujYIIReR9i2A6TON4nTV/UfGm 0TkNW21dfVHZ/WmVoUFLwIUfRxwnOgy67LMirZsyhBGXEbj1bC2BdzNIe6ETm3ake1 lSRPqJMjUt12pzFag/ppeF69vo6MV+0WctIzRPV8= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130417132630.07c7a7e0@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:32:06 -0700 To: appsdir@ietf.org From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: spfbis-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] Request for review of draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-14 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:32:27 -0000 Hello, I would like to request an early review of draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-14. The draft is currently in WGLC. I would appreciate if you would volunteer. I'll leave it to the Apps ADs to select the reviewer as I am the document shepherd for the draft. Thanks, -sm From superuser@gmail.com Wed Apr 17 15:42:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE70F21E80E9 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:42:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.976, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x8Y7GFIAk-4z for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22f.google.com (mail-wi0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C4621E80E1 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id h11so966827wiv.14 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:42:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DXhePwAA3IiZleLw8SfX0cp4F4XeSNyeeunKghc3oUw=; b=dQchKpuGM5wgb+ShD8TL+vM71n0+pAlZrngtGhbMg8P9vueoMp7G2pgPpxPukPqZir 0WlI3NR9J+bGC/hDZO0xhC4U/ToMcwlxk9jFp1mblyjaAREtyf4SluAr3KuxNH1TR3JS Vk/cRctsvavCtuFOCAj7H2PdkOOdlxOu319cbKtoQNTD0NgNRy9MFS2OZq/ULT4wZB7v /LDqj88KcAdfxIbJfSwWrTFsY33MPUMk1TtEt+ww29og2o0A5VmVMavwRespz0xPc+Dw HnOrDt7jI6j23Tn33WkNuCJ4rJxMR3CJ9bCCgFrf04/YgnQHmDbMIzlr7Xy0SmfhkW6G B/5w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.109.35 with SMTP id hp3mr14548823wjb.15.1366238521396; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.36.176 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:42:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20130417132630.07c7a7e0@elandnews.com> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130417132630.07c7a7e0@elandnews.com> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:42:01 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: SM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e010d8574bf1a6604da96319f Cc: spfbis-chairs@tools.ietf.org, appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for review of draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-14 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 22:42:03 -0000 --089e010d8574bf1a6604da96319f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am reviewing it as a WG participant, and have been following its development from the inception of the WG. I'm happy to call my review the AppsDir review unless of course it's more appropriate to bring someone in cold. -MSK On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:32 PM, SM wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to request an early review of draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-14. > The draft is currently in WGLC. > > I would appreciate if you would volunteer. I'll leave it to the Apps ADs > to select the reviewer as I am the document shepherd for the draft. > > Thanks, > -sm > > ______________________________**_________________ > appsdir mailing list > appsdir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/appsdir > --089e010d8574bf1a6604da96319f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am reviewing it as a WG participant, and have been follo= wing its development from the inception of the WG.=A0 I'm happy to call= my review the AppsDir review unless of course it's more appropriate to= bring someone in cold.

-MSK


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:32 PM, SM <sm+ietf@elandsys.com><= /span> wrote:
Hello,

I would like to request an early review of draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-14. = =A0The draft is currently in WGLC.

I would appreciate if you would volunteer. =A0I'll leave it to the Apps= ADs to select the reviewer as I am the document shepherd for the draft.
Thanks,
-sm

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--089e010d8574bf1a6604da96319f-- From sm@elandsys.com Wed Apr 17 16:17:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB9C21E80AD for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:17:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rxLs52NVdyoQ for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFAD21E80A7 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.133.137]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3HNHK6W018840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:17:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1366240652; bh=vwiZs8I3rXwIBBpIkGnfJiQNmWLFhTAd2o3eZFkRTRw=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=fmO/mvY+nMIZBIGBzmv4i2QGBhiRMNUBoMe804d1JW7h5+oX5f0Xtg2gvIaKJjdLh 4PglkHotWAoqCFGXLi1BbM6mu/GcwarVntPofi8iWUh656hAxiF+0OvtWKV7Jt9RQN 4r5mLhfBykXoli9iHZaZfv0M2olK4eYor3YfMcCo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1366240652; i=@elandsys.com; bh=vwiZs8I3rXwIBBpIkGnfJiQNmWLFhTAd2o3eZFkRTRw=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=B85sy0BpKcN0At4CaLSLBd/BCGNsM6V5dW6hI8K1+615dhUB1niai+B93cPcSb/NW C7Bhs0XlxMznrwxpnQeGWcQA4p1siDFPDsx1Riu5y3xlkj1SnDHiikD9dLZ+9oO5Uk Hjj4Xw9t+r/X7I3T9OQFEShY6naTd8P6MR7WRWvA= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130417154413.0cbff168@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:15:09 -0700 To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" From: SM In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130417132630.07c7a7e0@elandnews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for review of draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-14 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 23:17:39 -0000 Hi Murray, At 15:42 17-04-2013, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >I am reviewing it as a WG participant, and have been following its >development from the inception of the WG. I'm happy to call my >review the AppsDir review unless of course it's more appropriate to >bring someone in cold. Many thanks for offering. You have contributed significantly to the draft. I think that it is better not to call your review an AppsDir review. As there are new reviewers I'll mention the following [1]: It is important to avoid any perception of conflict of interest. I leave it to the reviewer to notify me if I missed anything, e.g. the author and the reviewer share a common affiliation, the reviewer contributed to the draft previously, there was previously a conflict between the author/document shepherd and the reviewer. Best regards, -sm 1. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/appsdir/current/msg00970.html From cyrus@daboo.name Wed Apr 17 16:28:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726BD21E809F for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:28:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 48HIpowAFAm8 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daboo.name (daboo.name [173.13.55.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF0A21E8043 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C901417AB90; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 19:28:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Received: from daboo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (daboo.name [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o6af4xutAbbv; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 19:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (unknown [173.13.55.49]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D8BB8417AB82; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 19:28:26 -0400 (EDT) References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130417132630.07c7a7e0@elandnews.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20130417154413.0cbff168@elandnews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20130417154413.0cbff168@elandnews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: Cyrus Daboo Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 19:28:26 -0400 To: SM Cc: "appsdir@ietf.org" , "Murray S. Kucherawy" Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for review of draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-14 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 23:28:28 -0000 I can take this one. --=20 Cyrus Daboo (Tapped out on my iPad) On Apr 17, 2013, at 7:15 PM, SM wrote: > Hi Murray, > At 15:42 17-04-2013, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >> I am reviewing it as a WG participant, and have been following its develo= pment from the inception of the WG. I'm happy to call my review the AppsDir= review unless of course it's more appropriate to bring someone in cold. >=20 > Many thanks for offering. You have contributed significantly to the draft= . I think that it is better not to call your review an AppsDir review. >=20 > As there are new reviewers I'll mention the following [1]: >=20 > It is important to avoid any perception of conflict of interest. I leave i= t to the reviewer to notify me if I missed anything, e.g. the author and the= reviewer share a common affiliation, the reviewer contributed to the draft p= reviously, there was previously a conflict between the author/document sheph= erd and the reviewer. >=20 > Best regards, > -sm >=20 > 1. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/appsdir/current/msg00970.html=20 > _______________________________________________ > appsdir mailing list > appsdir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/appsdir From presnick@qti.qualcomm.com Wed Apr 24 09:54:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC9521F86EA for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:54:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.349 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.349 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FXeUONmRvaFQ for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabertooth02.qualcomm.com (sabertooth02.qualcomm.com [65.197.215.38]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB8E21F88EA for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:54:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qti.qualcomm.com; i=@qti.qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1366822450; x=1398358450; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: content-transfer-encoding; bh=pSTkUiklKfvkFvnRgRHa0LSe1MU19DFcmwF18TORMgM=; b=Zwynba9kIPrHvoJW0cR+khUT/kufvm35AugemMYpOx3JplG9ZrqDQ5OY /F/Ve0bn2yXZXz44Qoc8yg1EjOF7hvI91mkBH3haegkgCmxeGiV5QWbri UBQQBAo66vCCfm8vpJjGL470aU2ZyuCSsf4Gxz2onQODTHsn4/E9pFXNw c=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,542,1363158000"; d="scan'208";a="36470741" Received: from ironmsg02-lv.qualcomm.com ([10.47.202.183]) by sabertooth02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 24 Apr 2013 09:54:06 -0700 Received: from nasanexhc04.na.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.17]) by ironmsg02-lv.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 24 Apr 2013 09:54:06 -0700 Received: from resnick2.qualcomm.com (172.30.48.1) by qcmail1.qualcomm.com (172.30.48.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.318.4; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:54:06 -0700 Message-ID: <51780E2C.5060005@qti.qualcomm.com> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:54:04 -0500 From: Pete Resnick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100630 Eudora/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [172.30.48.1] Cc: Cyrus Daboo Subject: [appsdir] Please do appsdir review of draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:54:27 -0000 I have chatted with Cyrus and I believe he will take up this review, but just to be official about it: Appsdir: Please do a review of draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis. Thanks, pr -- Pete Resnick Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. - +1 (858)651-4478 From cyrus@daboo.name Wed Apr 24 12:36:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F4E21F8B13 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:36:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jPIaSK+9qyeb for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daboo.name (daboo.name [173.13.55.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74AB21F896D for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEE841FED5A; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:36:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Received: from daboo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (daboo.name [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TLSQuD6VkIwq; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from caldav.corp.apple.com (unknown [17.45.162.46]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ADBF241FED4D; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:36:44 -0400 From: Cyrus Daboo To: Pete Resnick , appsdir@ietf.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <51780E2C.5060005@qti.qualcomm.com> References: <51780E2C.5060005@qti.qualcomm.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a3 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; size=345 Subject: Re: [appsdir] Please do appsdir review of draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:36:37 -0000 Hi Pete, --On April 24, 2013 at 11:54:04 AM -0500 Pete Resnick wrote: > I have chatted with Cyrus and I believe he will take up this review, but > just to be official about it: > > Appsdir: Please do a review of draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis. Yes, I will take this review and work on it later today. -- Cyrus Daboo From sm@elandsys.com Wed Apr 24 16:13:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE2721F92B2 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:13:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4EDMXVfoln6A for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3C821F92C4 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.226.232.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3ONDCWi016488 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:13:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1366845206; bh=4a3Bn9s8cyCiyh9yUlJrR5p/e7B3MIOuxmvNspC6nEQ=; h=Date:To:From:Subject; b=a2fVaChbmFiPqgMhP6BGN6L6MwpssRdeu138InN4x9S2ZxX4+pc79PzpcX61LVgxP ru9WNdP3l5g7J/IuEDNjhkYNs2ngfO65Zwbh7lbkHBdxE8Kzqsotts2OcorBnWEOuG AcpB9jJXBbAJ77PH4nXUb+zqhnMkjpvgM7y5T28g= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1366845206; i=@elandsys.com; bh=4a3Bn9s8cyCiyh9yUlJrR5p/e7B3MIOuxmvNspC6nEQ=; h=Date:To:From:Subject; b=LQe4TJUodWIhdEcoqY5QDM56nLCsxL6j9A3cROc1QClmsWe1401TnAmBCFp4mb7hv WuEcSjwuOZKWDZD5PBdgnL8tIcokxTcI5peOifJivOaMfCxebOXZMJeErat0dYJEBx R8o6LcDgI6vznhjl4DkGqww07unCvPFbQ81YYjs0= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130424155952.0b8a3ae0@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:12:44 -0700 To: appsdir@ietf.org From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [appsdir] Tentative list of drafts for AppsDir review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:13:45 -0000 Hello, This is the tentative list of drafts for AppsDir review: draft-housley-rfc2050bis-01 draft-ietf-bmwg-imix-genome-04 draft-ietf-dhc-triggered-reconfigure-05 - DHCPv6 draft-ietf-netmod-interfaces-cfg-10 - XML draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis-01 - URI draft-ietf-trill-fine-labeling-06 draft-saintandre-impp-call-info-02 Best regards, -sm From salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com Thu Apr 25 22:29:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CA321F97AA for ; 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Fri, 26 Apr 2013 07:29:08 +0200 Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se [131.160.33.3]) by mail.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4481237B for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:29:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2335454D76 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:29:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from n106.nomadiclab.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C4D546C5 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:29:07 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <517A10A2.2010004@ericsson.com> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:29:06 +0300 From: Salvatore Loreto User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: appsdir@ietf.org References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130424155952.0b8a3ae0@elandnews.com> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20130424155952.0b8a3ae0@elandnews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvre5SgapAg/PXuCymTt3H6sDosWTJ T6YAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujOmdk9gLSis2rTVuYIztYuTgkBAwkZjZ4NfFyAlkiklcuLee rYuRi0NI4BSjxPO+H0wQzgZGif7dM6AylxglFm6ZCOUcZZTofdoH5exjlOjYdpMRZBivgLZE 0/PjTCA7WARUJWatiQUJswmYSTx/uIUZJCwqkCzxf4c3RLWgxMmZT1hAbBEBEYm5Tz8zg9jC Ak4SW851s4PYQgK2Es9f3wCzOQXsJPoO3GIFsZmB4hfmXGeBsOUltr+dwwzxjprE1XObmCF6 tSR6z3YyTWAUmYVk3Swk7bOQtC9gZF7FyJ6bmJmTXm64iREYwge3/NbdwXjqnMghRmkOFiVx 3ulSlYFCAumJJanZqakFqUXxRaU5qcWHGJk4OKUaGLPYPyT5NZ2ruWn3OLiRM5FjmfU7xztn Mna0puufbXY/Hc4SZ1at83lnx71Sx8K+3hPnipp3XHzxl+f04Q+x31l/vZii/cD75X/7x7Y3 tdIMll76wVrMMc3sWdeiC1dveF3dy/n3kEHZimc/JubzhO3OW8KY7fhx4fElV4oZUj5eOxC7 U7Q86acSS3FGoqEWc1FxIgCHN9wBLwIAAA== Subject: Re: [appsdir] Tentative list of drafts for AppsDir review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 05:29:11 -0000 I would be happy to review the following Peter draft > > draft-saintandre-impp-call-info-02 cheers Salvaore From stpeter@stpeter.im Fri Apr 26 09:38:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB4221F9A60 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:38:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LzowT00T7LiE for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A49721F9A5F for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ergon.local (unknown [24.9.168.255]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D58BB4004E; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:49:12 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <517AAD77.8080009@stpeter.im> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:38:15 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Salvatore Loreto References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130424155952.0b8a3ae0@elandnews.com> <517A10A2.2010004@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <517A10A2.2010004@ericsson.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Tentative list of drafts for AppsDir review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:38:13 -0000 On 4/25/13 11:29 PM, Salvatore Loreto wrote: > I would be happy to review the following Peter draft >> >> draft-saintandre-impp-call-info-02 Good choice. It's one of the shortest I-Ds in history. ;-) Peter From johnsonhammond2@hushmail.com Sat Apr 27 16:38:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B404621F99A4 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:38:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.475 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.475 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.124, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YM53flHGOJ71 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (smtp2a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.237]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83C521F99AE for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (smtp2a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.237]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D0B8FE7D08 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:16:16 +0000 (UTC) X-hush-relay-time: 211 X-hush-relay-id: b1bd903faba185ee07e5a0ed3a1fde37 Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w8.hushmail.com [65.39.178.52]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 9C00214DBDE; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:16:16 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:16:16 -0400 To: appsdir@ietf.org From: johnsonhammond2@hushmail.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20130427171616.9C00214DBDE@smtp.hushmail.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:41:41 -0700 Subject: [appsdir] Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 23:38:42 -0000 Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP ( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia from University of Georgia, USA. We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the same paper with a modified title) to WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper had numerous fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from that paper include: (1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa (2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic (3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance (4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model (5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer (6). Laptop is an example for a super computer (7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning. However, it was accepted both the times without any modifications (and without any reviews) and we were invited to submit the final paper and a payment of $500+ fee to present the paper. We decided to use the fee for better purposes than making Prof. Hamid Arabnia (Chairman of WORLDCOMP) rich. After that, we received few reminders from WORLDCOMP to pay the fee but we never responded. We MUST say that you should look at the above website if you have any thoughts to submit a paper to WORLDCOMP. DBLP and other indexing agencies have stopped indexing WORLDCOMP’s proceedings since 2011 due to its fakeness. See http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/conf/icai/index.html for of one of the conferences of WORLDCOMP and notice that there is no listing after 2010. See Section 2 of http://sites.google.com/site/dumpconf for comments from well-known researchers about WORLDCOMP. The status of your WORLDCOMP papers can be changed from scientific to other (i.e., junk or non-technical) at any time. Better not to have a paper than having it in WORLDCOMP and spoil the resume and peace of mind forever! Our study revealed that WORLDCOMP is a money making business, using University of Georgia mask, for Prof. Hamid Arabnia. He is throwing out a small chunk of that money (around 20 dollars per paper published in WORLDCOMP’s proceedings) to his puppet (Mr. Ashu Solo or A.M.G. Solo) who publicizes WORLDCOMP and also defends it at various forums, using fake/anonymous names. The puppet uses fake names and defames other conferences to divert traffic to WORLDCOMP. He also makes anonymous phone calls and tries to threaten the critiques of WORLDCOMP (See Item 7 of Section 5 of above website). That is, the puppet does all his best to get a maximum number of papers published at WORLDCOMP to get more money into his (and Prof. Hamid Arabnia’s) pockets. Monte Carlo Resort (the venue of WORLDCOMP for more than 10 years, until 2012) has refused to provide the venue for WORLDCOMP’13 because of the fears of their image being tarnished due to WORLDCOMP’s fraudulent activities. That is why WORLDCOMP’13 is taking place at a different resort. WORLDCOMP will not be held after 2013. The draft paper submission deadline is over but still there are no committee members, no reviewers, and there is no conference Chairman. The only contact details available on WORLDCOMP’s website is just an email address! Let us make a direct request to Prof. Hamid arabnia: publish all reviews for all the papers (after blocking identifiable details) since 2000 conference. Reveal the names and affiliations of all the reviewers (for each year) and how many papers each reviewer had reviewed on average. We also request him to look at the Open Challenge (Section 6) at https://sites.google.com/site/moneycomp1 Sorry for posting to multiple lists. Spreading the word is the only way to stop this bogus conference. Please forward this message to other mailing lists and people. We are shocked with Prof. Hamid Arabnia and his puppet’s activities http://worldcomp-fake-bogus.blogspot.com Search Google using the keyword worldcomp fake for additional links. From sm@elandsys.com Sat Apr 27 16:46:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B90921F9910 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:46:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MC-dAgHMapq5 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A8421F98D9 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.152.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3RNjutV019906 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:46:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1367106367; bh=2O5Sj/4Y5Bnx9f+9d6gZsKuBnpkeATIVM8vbFAm+Ckg=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=vmRkXJfL+jFd369FcZVkvRqrtND9/gjsRkQchh1rBQ+bs0KBe9yUF9Wv+2focDoVK RTKFieaF++CptNhxyxueLM1IGqPRD2PQZPlMlqiN+TfFLymAxcbV1peqIow9zWRVT8 FbD4/DZZp236+wAnXZ9skGyguMDPg3/QpjiOjCBo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1367106367; i=@elandsys.com; bh=2O5Sj/4Y5Bnx9f+9d6gZsKuBnpkeATIVM8vbFAm+Ckg=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=INA8dQyEcmaID2wm0uewX9B6BpvbZc4PwqMMLehlaPyiZAdJE67LRD0bgeHBbizbO DHCH+3lgmIdg8LRksw3LPgZeJfin46lsZvf5QbbqWRs43KRwHczOyppo0/YzmvUWb4 MYITww/ixyIKihDG72G6osq+SzuZBmJxhjlAas08= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130427164251.0bf8e1e0@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:44:32 -0700 To: appsdir@ietf.org From: SM In-Reply-To: <20130427171616.9C00214DBDE@smtp.hushmail.com> References: <20130427171616.9C00214DBDE@smtp.hushmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: [appsdir] Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 23:46:08 -0000 Hello, I rejected the subscription yesterday. I approved the message by mistake. Sorry about that. Best regards, -sm From stpeter@stpeter.im Sat Apr 27 18:41:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA5621F98B7 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:41:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GcyPHvcYI-rn for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B112721F9851 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ergon.local (unknown [71.237.13.154]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE16E410C1; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:52:05 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <517C7E2D.3020903@stpeter.im> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:41:01 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SM References: <20130427171616.9C00214DBDE@smtp.hushmail.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20130427164251.0bf8e1e0@elandnews.com> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20130427164251.0bf8e1e0@elandnews.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:41:02 -0000 On 4/27/13 5:44 PM, SM wrote: > Hello, > > I rejected the subscription yesterday. I approved the message by > mistake. Sorry about that. The one good thing about this spam attack is that I've been reminded about just how many IETF lists I subscribe to. ;-) Peter From sm@elandsys.com Sat Apr 27 22:42:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08CF21F9818 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:42:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.337 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.337 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.263, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j+vXt3GqJMBv for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F24C21F980B for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.226.232.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3S5gCNY013155 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:42:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1367127749; bh=A+GjSQ4ogFP/Pp8aT+gDjuPZHcF087Pa6Q7FVf7vdDU=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=aMOo4xsnE/dGQNg31ZLZRQ8Vo4RFM5AenB1MHlzqwG731yoNB4qle1ev8HtD4yhvT hptUVEwzc/ygT7s/ewkh+iZ1aMIIjh/L5g1VkZZ/tdb+BKY1k6DU7xWXSbX3J6Ks+c JVKaqNlx+bqkRyX9K+5+CESRHydT4quhY83ATKPU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1367127749; i=@elandsys.com; bh=A+GjSQ4ogFP/Pp8aT+gDjuPZHcF087Pa6Q7FVf7vdDU=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=rXEQ4wiYT7l/NPMgaLXglpYjbP4Yn0A6xgiFqgVML5+2US+NnTn0PcKdXf6muoIPO Cy1VfoWzx6wINjD4gOD3coFb2nEbeBv0sUWr3XrcYdB6JxwZ5nz0JZUEdtHsicu3xu gwpSUMmc8Dy7xXr18pmYdMuvRJL07oe4kG6Ke3FA= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130427224148.0ac10fc8@elandsys.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:42:01 -0700 To: Tobias Gondrom , Salvatore Loreto , Kerry Lynn , Tim Bray , Martin Thomson , Claudio Allocchio , Larry Masinter , He Xuan , "Murray S. Kucherawy" From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:45:43 -0700 Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: [appsdir] Request for AppsDir review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 05:42:54 -0000 Hello, Here are the assignments. Please send me an acknowledgement. :-) The template is at http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/template Due date: May 3 draft-housley-rfc2050bis-01 - Tobias draft-saintandre-impp-call-info-02 - Sal Due date: May 7 draft-ietf-bmwg-imix-genome-04 - Kerry Lynn draft-ietf-netmod-interfaces-cfg-10 - Tim Bray draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis-01 - Martin Thomson draft-ietf-dhc-triggered-reconfigure-05 - Claudio draft-ietf-trill-fine-labeling-06 - Larry draft-ietf-6man-impatient-nud-06 - Xuan He and Murray (joint review) Best regards, -sm From sm@elandsys.com Sun Apr 28 00:04:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4302821F8F44 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 00:04:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.389 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.389 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.210, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wk3urYA-a3mz for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 00:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2CB21F90EE for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 00:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.226.232.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3S73olR019576 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 00:04:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1367132641; bh=r31J3/luXUSGVo9XMQqTcLpv6x/ah6PfCUiGZrBUJVU=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=rL4wMtibThmvZdWPLEZ3proWqoPdMsTMtthsxITB274z5NI+UMGhvm9Bi7gOmI7yC nd/dEz2YrF0xA6viTv4ZCZxU64pNp1rn3SbyXPbSdAyz9a+wlGwRfVf2Hg/Z/SEqFm iqjHb+BH5JQmQvVdSCy1gafYBDz8/OWapFbXyyaE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1367132641; i=@elandsys.com; bh=r31J3/luXUSGVo9XMQqTcLpv6x/ah6PfCUiGZrBUJVU=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=S/8ZComOq89mDOTaCqqSajivQCxF9ekdpQRBXqVxLvbfXT2lpKWparRy7EeViqeV1 cLvC0OB+u6wkPoPHFYJcHJC6I5KnsMopaeKi7/K2js2Z0YzgwAov54Jm53IK2DKy4e ZEAbt8MEjLIjpjnPTOVc74f6Os2BdLju+i41z98A= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130427221549.0ac10440@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 23:56:34 -0700 To: appsdir@ietf.org From: SM In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20130325235519.0cdd5fb0@elandnews.com> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130325235519.0cdd5fb0@elandnews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: [appsdir] AppsDir Joint Review Experiment X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 07:04:03 -0000 Hello, Here's some feedback about the Joint Review experiment. The experiment is going on better than I expected. Eliot came up with a good idea for AppsDir reviews. He provided the non-Apps related comments directly to ietf@ietf.org instead of including them in the AppsDir review. I'll try that for some of my reviews. I suggested the reviewers by looking at the expertise listed on the AppsDir web page. I avoided having reviewers who usually work with each other. It's a rough guess. I left it to the the two reviewers to work out how to do the work. That was to encourage you to get to know each other and get used to the interaction. It can be difficult to work as a team as we don't always know what the other person expects or will be doing, or when the person will be replying to an email. In my opinion it is better for one of the two reviewers to interact with the person responding to the review. If both reviewers comment on the same issue and provide different opinions it can confuse the person responding to the review. I would like to thank Alexey, Xuan, Peter, Bert, Eliot and Tobias as the joint review experiment would not work without their effort. Best regards, -sm From martin.thomson@gmail.com Sun Apr 28 20:15:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D48921F99E6 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:15:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dp60FjxoUiHk for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x231.google.com (mail-we0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D2D21F99D8 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-we0-f177.google.com with SMTP id s47so4268441wey.22 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wAiXGRyRiYbs9dC3rxDv86MtzWVU+ukUn5vqelhkyqo=; b=wJGFzAngWNQBIg3na79dOiDWiNNH1oACwCYwRt6vcaXMU5IDiMcMbd1WKhVo/AXQ9h yvvxFYKBIYCU6Wc0yQlzWnn/lIIruujpvrOuZr79/vlqZo0dr5XyL+HuJ3JIUVpJ78O5 4NKzJ2ArUXb045weYGP8Kf3rz4QKiCCvcq5dmjiF3Hv1U7/enbTrM71U6BgUSn4kmSRf oFr0RDyxkWHcZpNXeW5tsRnkU2EJ94li6IVjuRsGg3hy79kQgZCMtB7fzbI3wADtpa6i xC2pecBqNMocIAEa/278A9sgrDO4zVRZ9/BSe0K9XA7neOrkrHEYRj5psK4BJNzOUBKp SD5w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.212.46 with SMTP id nh14mr4133423wic.26.1367205345869; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.33.102 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:15:45 -0700 Message-ID: From: Martin Thomson To: appsdir@ietf.org, draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis.all@tools.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: [appsdir] Fwd: APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis-01 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 03:15:47 -0000 (Apologies, I have this habit of not including directorates on directorate reviews. Correcting this oversight.) I have been selected as the Applications Area Directorate reviewer for this draft (for background on appsdir, please see http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate ). Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive. Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before posting a new version of the draft. Document: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis-01 Title: Common YANG Data Types Reviewer: Martin Thomson Review Date: 2013-04-29 Summary: This draft is ready for publication as a Proposed Standard RFC. I have some minor issues and questions. This is some of the most readable code that I have seen. Major Issues: none Minor Issues: Section 4: There is an RFC that describes a canonical textual representation of IPv6 addresses. You should use that: RFC 5952. domain-name doesn't mention RFC 5890 at all (5891 is cited, but not used in the text). I assume that these are LDH-labels: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5890#section-2.3.1 and that this document should say as much. Questions: Section 3: phys-address: why is this optionally empty? Maybe explain why in the document - value absent? hex-string: why is this required to include at least one octet? The text does not mention this at all, I tend to find lots of uses for empty octet strings, so this seems odd. xpath1.0: are we expected to infer that "context" includes document and where the namespace prefixes are bound? Section 4: ipv6-address: that is a very short IPv6 pattern. Is it provably correct? I only ask because I've had occasion to build a real pattern, and it's very long (the following is based on the "official" ABNF definition): Nits: I didn't find anything at all, and the items that idnits found were bogus, so it looks good. From martin.thomson@gmail.com Sun Apr 28 19:38:19 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5A721F992C for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:38:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xguvnEJOaT2V for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com (mail-wi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62AC21F9929 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hi8so22187wib.16 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:38:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=OPwVEzh4tK7dtzlmAQgHtSNw6TFEzUV/d1q3fVLzwuc=; b=PzDr6WzetCppQBAtr+aL2IXFokosxjN050I0mIT9HD9ASy6hWixrYrvIwIjaM4eMOz Te92dFUU4XdBdenE8FBDPpuFqXBkmP21Tyd7EEQrmwk6FrQHwNY71MGqDQT+Ak/7lW+9 E+qkJJ4Vixn73yuN+drGb7TCB7dbROW7CJQ9TrFIA57w03e6ihgSK3WL2BBeHNkqC9fl Y/qK9f0J1+qsqxTa0o0qP/s5hCsTzRMWlbMRg6drYTu2lYVCOdXD9UfS3JaW/ULRb/dC xd43dQmAb62K3xE/FGBn1yRmaJQfn/UfO3VQGZEZLFXKqbhOfBxIILvlG0gcAUCZ2Sbm t2dw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.14.5 with SMTP id l5mr9440988wic.32.1367203094867; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.33.102 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:38:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20130427220252.0b734758@elandnews.com> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20130427220252.0b734758@elandnews.com> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:38:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Martin Thomson To: SM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:26:42 -0700 Cc: Kerry Lynn , appsdir@ietf.org, Claudio Allocchio , Larry Masinter , Tobias Gondrom , Tim Bray , Salvatore Loreto , "Murray S. Kucherawy" , He Xuan Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for AppsDir review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 02:38:19 -0000 On 27 April 2013 22:13, SM wrote: > draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis-01 - Martin Thomson Ack