From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Mon Jul 2 08:55:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F7921F8630; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 08:55:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DeXcbAWxCc+2; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 08:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045A321F8699; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 08:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.21p1 Message-ID: <20120702155529.29915.35651.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 08:55:29 -0700 Cc: codec mailing list , codec chair , RFC Editor Subject: [codec] Protocol Action: 'Definition of the Opus Audio Codec' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-codec-opus-16.txt) X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 15:55:30 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Definition of the Opus Audio Codec' (draft-ietf-codec-opus-16.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Internet Wideband Audio Codec Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Robert Sparks and Gonzalo Camarillo. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-codec-opus/ Working Group Summary The chairs believe there is good consensus behind the document, particularly around the technology. There has not been any significant disagreement on any of the technical aspects of the codec. However, the working group has left the detailed specification work to the small author team. There are several vocal participants who continue to express dissatisfaction over the testing and codec validation associated with the work. The WG chairs do not believe that there was consensus to make these changes. This document has been the subject of a number of IPR declarations. See: Microsoft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1670/ Skype: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1602/ Broadcom: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1526/ Xiph: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1524/ Qualcomm: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1520/ Huawei: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1712/ Huawei: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1741/ The WG has had an opportunity to review these disclosures in Last Call and has opted to proceed with document publication. Document Quality There is an existing implementation - the reference implementation which is included in the appendix of the document and has been maintained by the authors of the specification. One of the authors developed several independent decoder implementations in order to help validate the specification. There are no known alternative encoder implementations. There are no significant reviewers worth noting beyond the author team. The codec has gone through a great degree of testing that demonstrates its quality. Test results can be found at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-codec-results/. Personnel Shepherd: Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. Responsible AD: Robert Sparks RFC Editor Note: Please replace the instances of rfcXXXX in this document with rfc number assigned for this draft. Please work with the draft editors to replace rfcXXXX as it appears in the files in the appendix with the rfc number assigned for this draft. Please work with the draft editors to ensure that the following is added (with XXXX replaced appropriately) to the README file in the appendix: "These files were extracted from RFCXXXX. Please see that RFC for additional information." From stpeter@stpeter.im Mon Jul 2 09:22:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495AC21F86C9 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 09:22:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.46 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.46 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.139, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32USnIM1ahK9 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 09:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DB221F8747 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 09:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [64.101.72.115] (unknown [64.101.72.115]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AE1194005A for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:40:47 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4FF1CAC9.2050305@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:22:33 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: codec mailing list References: <20120702155529.29915.35651.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20120702155529.29915.35651.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [codec] Protocol Action: 'Definition of the Opus Audio Codec' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-codec-opus-16.txt) X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 16:22:30 -0000 On 7/2/12 9:55 AM, The IESG wrote: > The IESG has approved the following document: > - 'Definition of the Opus Audio Codec' > (draft-ietf-codec-opus-16.txt) as Proposed Standard Congratulations to the team on finishing this work! As a co-chair of your second BoF, I'm happy to see this success. :) Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ From fluffy@cisco.com Tue Jul 3 10:01:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D8D11E8096 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:01:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.145, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kZS8OC2C5A3C for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.86.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48DC11E8098 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:01:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=fluffy@cisco.com; l=3123; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1341334893; x=1342544493; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=TrZCM/ygk+nu6/HViUHyrMwicg7X8IUoy08eqCC/J2I=; b=U367boWxLuMy9YL28LXxj+mX3nOzs2SACULiObqAfIVPSrxE74y+s23X Lkx6WLEjyF6u00ktv6g/6Nsx/8djW1agz6lk/KSfvjmNtczi5X+MP+eF0 D3rmEJrUl8HXByKTtyDQsmjqAC0067gr3T4C0uZnMXG/rej1XpPQNHr32 A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAJAj80+tJV2a/2dsb2JhbABEtwaBB4IYAQEBAwESASc/BQsCAQg2BQsyJQIEAQ0FIodkBQuaDKBHizeFOmADlTWBEo0LgWaCX4FYIw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,516,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="98420905" Received: from rcdn-core-3.cisco.com ([173.37.93.154]) by rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Jul 2012 17:01:32 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x11.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x11.cisco.com [173.36.12.85]) by rcdn-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q63H1WoR019569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 3 Jul 2012 17:01:32 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com ([169.254.5.100]) by xhc-aln-x11.cisco.com ([173.36.12.85]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 12:01:32 -0500 From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" To: codec mailing list , codec chair Thread-Topic: Protocol Action: 'Definition of the Opus Audio Codec' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-codec-opus-16.txt) Thread-Index: AQHNWGswzBflw6r/SkK3aCDDnR7txJcYHfYA Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 17:01:31 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20120702155529.29915.35651.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20120702155529.29915.35651.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.21.66.36] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19014.003 x-tm-as-result: No--43.800300-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [codec] Protocol Action: 'Definition of the Opus Audio Codec' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-codec-opus-16.txt) X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 17:01:25 -0000 Many thanks to AD and the authors who put in a huge amount of effort to get= this through the IESG so quickly.=20 On Jul 2, 2012, at 8:55 , The IESG wrote: > The IESG has approved the following document: > - 'Definition of the Opus Audio Codec' > (draft-ietf-codec-opus-16.txt) as Proposed Standard >=20 > This document is the product of the Internet Wideband Audio Codec Working > Group. >=20 > The IESG contact persons are Robert Sparks and Gonzalo Camarillo. >=20 > A URL of this Internet Draft is: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-codec-opus/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Working Group Summary >=20 > The chairs believe there is good consensus behind the document, > particularly around the technology. There has not been any significant > disagreement on any of the technical aspects of the codec. However, the > working group has left the detailed specification work to the small > author team. There are several vocal participants who continue to > express dissatisfaction over the testing and codec validation associated > with the work. The WG chairs do not believe that there was consensus to > make these changes. >=20 > This document has been the subject of a number of IPR declarations. > See: >=20 > Microsoft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1670/ > Skype: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1602/ > Broadcom: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1526/ > Xiph: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1524/ > Qualcomm: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1520/ > Huawei: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1712/ > Huawei: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1741/ >=20 > The WG has had an opportunity to review these disclosures in Last Call > and has opted to proceed with document publication. >=20 >=20 > Document Quality >=20 > There is an existing implementation - the reference implementation which > is included in the appendix of the document and has been maintained by > the authors of the specification. One of the authors developed several > independent decoder implementations in order to help validate the > specification. There are no known alternative encoder > implementations. There are no significant reviewers worth noting beyond > the author team. >=20 > The codec has gone through a great degree of testing that demonstrates > its quality. Test results can be found at: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-codec-results/. >=20 >=20 > Personnel >=20 > Shepherd: Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. > Responsible AD: Robert Sparks =20 >=20 >=20 > RFC Editor Note: >=20 > Please replace the instances of rfcXXXX in this document with rfc number = assigned for this draft. >=20 > Please work with the draft editors to replace rfcXXXX as it appears in th= e files in the appendix with the rfc number assigned for this draft. >=20 > Please work with the draft editors to ensure that the following is added = (with XXXX replaced appropriately) to the README file in the appendix: "Th= ese files were extracted from RFCXXXX. Please see that RFC for additional i= nformation." From tterribe@xiph.org Tue Jul 3 10:24:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6664D11E80A4 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:24:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uCtjUTn7sEjz for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx2.corp.phx1.mozilla.com [63.245.216.70]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C771511E8175 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.250.6.54] (corp-240.mv.mozilla.com [63.245.220.240]) (Authenticated sender: tterriberry@mozilla.com) by mx2.mail.corp.phx1.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6030F2701; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FF32AC6.100@xiph.org> Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 10:24:22 -0700 From: "Timothy B. Terriberry" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120626 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: codec mailing list References: <20120702155529.29915.35651.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: codec chair Subject: Re: [codec] Protocol Action: 'Definition of the Opus Audio Codec' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-codec-opus-16.txt) X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 17:24:52 -0000 Cullen Jennings (fluffy) wrote: > > Many thanks to AD and the authors who put in a huge amount of effort to get this through the IESG so quickly. Yes, the thanks to our ADs are warmly echoed, and to our chairs, who provided invaluable assistance as well. From jmvalin@mozilla.com Tue Jul 3 10:39:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E57C11E808E for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:39:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yb6fzyrWDN4W for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx1.corp.phx1.mozilla.com [63.245.216.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAA811E8073 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (modemcable094.20-21-96.mc.videotron.ca [96.21.20.94]) (Authenticated sender: jvalin@mozilla.com) by mx1.mail.corp.phx1.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2FEB8F2827; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FF32E40.4050404@mozilla.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:39:12 -0400 From: Jean-Marc Valin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Timothy B. Terriberry" References: <20120702155529.29915.35651.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4FF32AC6.100@xiph.org> In-Reply-To: <4FF32AC6.100@xiph.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: codec mailing list , codec chair Subject: Re: [codec] Protocol Action: 'Definition of the Opus Audio Codec' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-codec-opus-16.txt) X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 17:39:07 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/2012 01:24 PM, Timothy B. Terriberry wrote: > Yes, the thanks to our ADs are warmly echoed, and to our chairs, > who provided invaluable assistance as well. I'd like to second that. Many thanks to our ADs and chairs for their support. Jean-Marc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJP8y48AAoJEJ6/8sItn9q9K6kIAIey56TSzsXh5mjabj+fWO8H /hrGfV+MnK1ytRDcEwlW445+0nOQ4yhyCpnyabseaXy+YaDKwzWggQqm4O1JzzLY aOIQ7fh+cM7V3JgQdxy/525kAwd0+IuaznwV+49gWxjHKhQp8Md7Uap+bSi5rRAs iV7lGkj+wwJi7JeJwJIM1B90syNqPpEzaQqmQQFRSRwmBOq7f2bj/+ULPwMCEFn6 ri+tvaS1d6moubnwkXIvHB9gcjDKjDJmgK/nEAIw8OX/YJB8Lys/HKZQbkXM3VXj /JrsWrWw52BW8Q5APsXn6lGotFsGsqtsadBUpSdSSzXwKwCjuQUApl690uisg4o= =pjgS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tterribe@xiph.org Thu Jul 5 08:12:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AC511E80B7 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:12:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id arkQFHHqhQQT for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx1.corp.phx1.mozilla.com [63.245.216.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5A711E80A5 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.17.0.5] (c-69-181-137-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.137.38]) (Authenticated sender: tterriberry@mozilla.com) by mx1.mail.corp.phx1.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C30BF22BA for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FF5AEED.8080300@xiph.org> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 08:12:45 -0700 From: "Timothy B. Terriberry" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120620 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: codec@ietf.org References: <20120705150704.14085.7364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20120705150704.14085.7364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20120705150704.14085.7364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050601020401040409020608" Subject: [codec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-terriberry-oggopus-00.txt X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:12:39 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050601020401040409020608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now that the main codec draft has been approved by the IESG, I thought we should move on to standardizing a long-term storage file format. After some discussion with the ADs, we decided that the codec WG itself was the best place to do this, so we've written a draft for it (see forwarded message). The text here isn't perfect (there are some outstanding issues even the authors want to resolve), but I thought I'd post it now to get some discussion rolling. For the actual format itself, we currently have deployed implementations in our own opus-tools package, Firefox, and gstreamer. I expect libav/FFmpeg and additional application support will be coming soon. --------------050601020401040409020608 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="New Version Notification for draft-terriberry-oggopus-00_txt.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename*0="New Version Notification for draft-terriberry-oggopus-00_txt"; filename*1=".eml" Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on kizuka.merseine.nu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Original-To: derf@kizuka.merseine.nu Delivered-To: derf@kizuka.merseine.nu Received: from mail.xiph.org (westfish.xiph.osuosl.org [140.211.166.32]) by kizuka.merseine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4E175C02F for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 11:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.xiph.org (Postfix) id 32EC51CDBB; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: tterribe@xiph.org Received: from fraxinus.osuosl.org (fraxinus.osuosl.org [140.211.166.137]) by mail.xiph.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304B81CDB9 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fraxinus.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DEA1002E4 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:07:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from fraxinus.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5kUjPn1vK9Tb for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:07:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [12.22.58.30]) by fraxinus.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFD31000BF for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF4F21F86CF; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:07:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JSxq3t8JjBu2; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC8421F8792; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:07:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: tterribe@xiph.org Cc: ron@debian.org Subject: New Version Notification for draft-terriberry-oggopus-00.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.30 Message-ID: <20120705150704.14085.7364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 08:07:04 -0700 A new version of I-D, draft-terriberry-oggopus-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Timothy B. Terriberry and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-terriberry-oggopus Revision: 00 Title: Ogg Encapsulation for the Opus Audio Codec Creation date: 2012-07-03 WG ID: Individual Submission Number of pages: 27 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-terriberry-oggop= us-00.txt Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-terriberry-oggopus Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-terriberry-oggopus-00 Abstract: This document defines the Ogg encapsulation for the Opus interactive speech and audio codec. This allows data encoded in the Opus format to be stored in an Ogg logical bitstream. This provides Opus with a long-term storage format supporting all of the essential features, including metadata, fast and accurate seeking, corruption detection, recapture after errors, low overhead, and the ability to multiplex Opus with other codecs (including video) with minimal buffering. It also provides a live streamable format, capable of delivery over a reliable stream-oriented transport, without requiring all the data, or even the total length of the data, up-front, in a form that is identical to the on-disk storage format. = = The IETF Secretariat --------------050601020401040409020608-- From kpfleming@digium.com Thu Jul 5 08:37:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCEA21F8751 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:37:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VPXPiy4gsbZs for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.digium.com (mail.digium.com [216.207.245.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E6C21F8735 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.24.55.203] (helo=zimbra.hsv.digium.com) by mail.digium.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Smo7M-0006n7-G1 for codec@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 10:37:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.hsv.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4A2D887D for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 10:37:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from zimbra.hsv.digium.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.hsv.digium.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tyfO864KSeiF for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 10:37:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.24.19.142] (sligo.digium.internal [10.24.19.142]) by zimbra.hsv.digium.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 295DCD887C for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 10:37:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4FF5B4AE.6020403@digium.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 10:37:18 -0500 From: "Kevin P. Fleming" Organization: Digium, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: codec@ietf.org References: <20120705150704.14085.7364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4FF5AEED.8080300@xiph.org> In-Reply-To: <4FF5AEED.8080300@xiph.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [codec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-terriberry-oggopus-00.txt X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:37:07 -0000 On 07/05/2012 10:12 AM, Timothy B. Terriberry wrote: > Now that the main codec draft has been approved by the IESG, I thought > we should move on to standardizing a long-term storage file format. > After some discussion with the ADs, we decided that the codec WG itself > was the best place to do this, so we've written a draft for it (see > forwarded message). Will this require a charter update, to add this as a WG deliverable? -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies Jabber: kfleming@digium.com | SIP: kpfleming@digium.com | Skype: kpfleming 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA Check us out at www.digium.com & www.asterisk.org From tterribe@xiph.org Thu Jul 5 08:53:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218E821F87BC for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:53:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6RG3gkLenBaJ for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx1.corp.phx1.mozilla.com [63.245.216.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28C921F86A1 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.17.0.5] (c-69-181-137-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.137.38]) (Authenticated sender: tterriberry@mozilla.com) by mx1.mail.corp.phx1.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38CDCF22C1 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FF5B89C.2090802@xiph.org> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 08:54:04 -0700 From: "Timothy B. Terriberry" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120620 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: codec@ietf.org References: <20120705150704.14085.7364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4FF5AEED.8080300@xiph.org> <4FF5B4AE.6020403@digium.com> In-Reply-To: <4FF5B4AE.6020403@digium.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [codec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-terriberry-oggopus-00.txt X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:53:53 -0000 Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > Will this require a charter update, to add this as a WG deliverable? I believe Robert said he would coordinate with the chairs to get a milestone in place. I don't know if we need to do anything more than that. From giles@thaumas.net Thu Jul 5 15:38:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A4E11E80BD for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:38:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pHd9MEpo0p6Q for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAF121F850F for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so13796579pbc.31 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:38:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=YckOrvqpVlQp9/OEmJIN3yAmaYS8CoK7wnMQco9wwc8=; b=UnX/6Yp47BpdPhoCy/tek0H5bswR2VjX1tgg7ViaU/vj1Rt1DYi+mcvXFqgheKxMwO MmxPG/I0nPzgW/2naPLkboBbh9FsIGNWdJdTO+S3V6djZRp0QeQ2PiiRREjw+qvjkGG5 dIHaR4aVJZ0v44zccghU5658AFfdJq0ixrlWPDYVA6b1LkyH5R8jTVXy8lgK3hcTmcd0 KjC6TZMucwsTYrybVHSVcUIXjuEKAZFAuV7aS8UnaoRO923mMjMqaxmkW2oTtZasjuJt EA1y/11RopPrgMlFJxBrX56eYfs6SMEm5L+u1aNus4eHZITRPP7hTFZ8U9DSQo4Os3KD j3gA== Received: by 10.68.138.169 with SMTP id qr9mr31460294pbb.27.1341527898468; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Glaucomys.local ([64.213.70.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id oo6sm20537456pbc.22.2012.07.05.15.38.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FF61755.5060205@thaumas.net> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:38:13 -0700 From: Ralph Giles User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Timothy B. Terriberry" References: <20120705150704.14085.7364.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4FF5AEED.8080300@xiph.org> In-Reply-To: <4FF5AEED.8080300@xiph.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk3GzhhSSc1l0iwUmlXnFTM6PaEkOUzWUZe4jl/Q6dLUZsQScw8fwnujn6eZx3Hgp/MEz0r Cc: codec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [codec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-terriberry-oggopus-00.txt X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 22:38:08 -0000 On 12-07-05 8:12 AM, Timothy B. Terriberry wrote: > Now that the main codec draft has been approved by the IESG, I thought > we should move on to standardizing a long-term storage file format. Thanks for writing this up! As Tim says, this draft is already implemented in Firefox, with support in the HTML