From tlegrand@google.com Fri Sep 6 04:35:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47F821E80AA for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 04:35:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Iu1xxY5KChsq for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 04:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-x22e.google.com (mail-ie0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8BC11E818D for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 04:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id k5so807759iea.5 for ; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 04:35:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Ruws2pgPprEnvLqaoMzS9FgwiA3wZ+kuF5kcYvWuCcs=; b=GlUxHKJRg0pSMZ2CZ30GgW17umjKPfO2kI5OBWMMVHUMBA7AkG86+naM2WFZr8MTow eUPoDbHheaBbUUdhTC8xB+B0tqn50U+h0DDbafDW1MYH5Turjvplgv2v5x9KlKNcingR uA9PKc0mRgrj3mI1dk/Dcra9wKWZWP4J6t+Bd60q/mehaWDU2qML3p9+KTvlwybufJVH /VI8RnC8Gu964OlbT5n+YbY/185T70sWY1SlKvWOA4EyeoJmEw6RRETRhz37qExCKBIk djKNbPoMlY0KNQlLv6I0v9bkkLe15VV3/jTD0uQopQCRnuM5YgzyNwdlRj3oKJgt0mEP 7JMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Ruws2pgPprEnvLqaoMzS9FgwiA3wZ+kuF5kcYvWuCcs=; b=l93xpzMFlSU0YZLGVcZ37OrRlMGcKPxAd0RAjwHXqelOnqMG3KjsaB12blkpDxO3PW 5/Xf9E/nem4i4z7B3XAefsO3Kz/c5/Ar4Xsr8azIJYA19bCM+oI0d+H4SXfIC4foXKk6 Oj3w+kkjNpik4LgDZQG03I23c/zjRdXnH9ofx2Mxa4uTBA0+HTaz1IPdKR/vym0v0GHo VS+SLk00f4vK+bAzBQ4on62Aq2Fz+y/4Y0QISq5CIWfMdF1pczG4xUDJTSd7OPWC8GgK 0NhadsMcKsdjSGxI13bwvlgoiU/gGhOntYdsUgW1f9JPTmxYySh3q25rUTRxKeyea6d1 NULQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmty3NhEzfgR4w11f5P7gpXZ6ZRCzc2d6cGmKz2CRv73mlS/tFjMhf6V+OSqF/Uc42Wf54MJ7LApY3lJmXpPNvyJQdyKNn825T9Rm1sLr9Osdhch8vxTgwSrduuygkvPIhrIK57yHgrWBl14Psw/6vxah6+vtRkLGJlhSFJKikn/HHDMME4OJcmJKATu9uK/Pyg5+j+ X-Received: by 10.50.61.241 with SMTP id t17mr1442401igr.28.1378467340471; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 04:35:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tlegrand@google.com Received: by 10.64.26.165 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 04:35:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51FA7C61.3080704@xiph.org> References: <20130712222833.13138.87216.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <51E0BDE1.9020901@jmvalin.ca> <51FA7C61.3080704@xiph.org> From: Tina le Grand Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:35:19 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: doWiPbvv-08tRazXXlcgfhQtChU Message-ID: To: "Timothy B. Terriberry" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdca96829e63504e5b5707a Cc: "codec@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [codec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-valin-codec-opus-update-00.txt X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 11:35:41 -0000 --047d7bdca96829e63504e5b5707a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I generally approve of this draft. I have a few comments. - Section 4, in the source code lines: This might be a little picky, but I suggest to remove the following line len--; and replace the new line, "len -= p==255 ? 254: p;" with len -= p==255 ? 255: p+1; or should it even be: len -= p; ? - Section 5, page 4: "The code can be fixed by applying the following changes to like 70" - "like" should be "line". - Section 6. Can you describe how to remove the 180-degree phase shift? Thanks, Tina le Grand. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Timothy B. Terriberry wrote: > Jean-Marc Valin wrote: > >> See these proposed fixes to the Opus RFC. These are minor changes to the >> normative part of the reference implementation. >> > > With my chair hat on: > > Although JDR originally said we would handle updates to RFC 6716 through > the normal errata process [1], after conferring with our ADs, we decided to > do them via a new draft, so that there was no question about overriding > working group consensus. > > To that end, we'd like to run a consensus call to add a milestone for > doing these updates. It would be helpful to have reviews of this document > before doing that call. I propose we allow a month (until Sep. 1) for such > reviews, and then run the call. > > > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/**documents/LIAISON/liaison-** > 2012-09-21-codec-isoiec-jtc-**1sc-29wg-11-liaison-from-ietf-** > codec-working-group-to-isoiec-**regarding-speech-and-audio-** > coding-standardization-**attachment-1.pdf > > ______________________________**_________________ > codec mailing list > codec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/codec > --047d7bdca96829e63504e5b5707a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I generally approve of this draft. I have a few comments.<= div>
  • Section 4, in the source code lines:
This might be a little picky, but I suggest to remove the followin= g line
=A0 len--;
and replace the new line, "len -=3D p=3D=3D2= 55 ? 254: p;" with
=A0 len -=3D p=3D=3D255 ? 255: p+1;
=
or should it even be:
=A0 len -=3D p;
?
=
  • Section 5, page 4: =A0"The code can be fixed by applying the following changes to lik= e 70" - "like" should be "line".
  • Section 6. Can you descr= ibe how to remove the 180-degree phase shift?
Thanks,=
Tina le Grand.



On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Timothy = B. Terriberry <tterribe@xiph.org> wrote:
Jean-Marc Valin wrote:
See these proposed fixes to the Opus RFC. These are minor changes to the normative part of the reference implementation.

With my chair hat on:

Although JDR originally said we would handle updates to RFC 6716 through th= e normal errata process [1], after conferring with our ADs, we decided to d= o them via a new draft, so that there was no question about overriding work= ing group consensus.

To that end, we'd like to run a consensus call to add a milestone for d= oing these updates. It would be helpful to have reviews of this document be= fore doing that call. I propose we allow a month (until Sep. 1) for such re= views, and then run the call.


[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/li= aison-2012-09-21-codec-isoiec-jtc-1sc-29wg-11-liaison-from-ie= tf-codec-working-group-to-isoiec-regarding-speech-and-audio-<= u>coding-standardization-attachment-1.pdf

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--047d7bdca96829e63504e5b5707a-- From jmvalin@mozilla.com Fri Sep 6 11:52:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC0311E81DC for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:52:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FVOsttdPtAV5 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx1.corp.phx1.mozilla.com [63.245.216.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8EF11E8178 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (modemcable130.97-201-24.mc.videotron.ca [24.201.97.130]) (Authenticated sender: jvalin@mozilla.com) by mx1.mail.corp.phx1.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B39B1F258E; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <522A2462.2010700@mozilla.com> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 14:52:18 -0400 From: Jean-Marc Valin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Harris References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: codec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [codec] draft-valin-codec-opus-update-00 minor nits X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 18:52:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, Thanks for the feedback. I'll apply the changes. The only one I'm not sure what to do about is the >72 column patches that I'm including. Does anyone have a suggestion for how to include those cleanly in the document? Cheers, Jean-Marc On 08/29/2013 07:21 PM, Mark Harris wrote: > Some minor formatting/grammar nits in > draft-valin-codec-opus-update-00: > > > This document address minor issues that were discovered in the > > s/address/addresses/ > > impulse (i.e. single sample) in the decoded audio. This can be > > s/i.e. /i.e. / > > This packet parsing issue is limited to reading memory up to about > 60 kB beyond the compressed buffer. This can only be triggered by > a > > incorrect line break between quantity and its unit > > for RTP. In theory, it _could_ crash a file decoder (e.g. Opus > in > > s/e.g. /e.g. / > > 2. Because the size was wrong, this potentially allowed the > source and destination regions of the memcpy overlap. We _believe_ > that nSamplesIn is at least fs_in_khZ, which is at least 8. Since > RESAMPLER_ORDER_FIR_12 is only 8,that should not be a problem once > the type size is fixed. > > s/memcpy overlap/memcpy() to overlap/ s/8,that/8, that/ > > The fact that the code never produced any error in testing > (including when run under the Valgrind memory debugger), suggests > that in practice the batch sizes are reasonable enough that none of > the issues above was ever a problem. However, proving that is > non- obvious. > > s/was/were/ > > The code can be fixed by applying the following changes to like 70 > of silk/resampler_private_IIR_FIR.c: > > s/like/line/ > > The last issue is not strictly a bug, but it is an issue that has > been reported when downmixing Opus decoded stream to mono, whether > this is done inside the decoder or as a post-processing on the > stereo decoder output. Opus intensity stereo allows optionally > coding the > > s/downmixing/downmixing an/ s/post-processing/post-processing > step/ > > some source lines exceed 72 columns (rfc max) > _______________________________________________ codec mailing list > codec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/codec > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSKiRiAAoJEJ6/8sItn9q9758H/0xoQB5vnrxWXfmjXXqclAam aP9O1D3MgPSpqgcueTSUUlJKmuDNkisjeys4UHC+ftaqY/zoTMYzq2dDuLSb+7cN IExZeuN19Cz2EysHYwKUV11bcu/OwKp2/1hQsxsGcnaDbS5FMmFwcbhWyU9eSiJD X003zFTZJi345THVDykm8yvcIaPid9ZS3OIzY40WJPSHPtobyhtlEufmwfehJ/hJ GpZGFPabSaKbecXoNyMC6EzhzEYsc7WZHb/DgPCEggnkrQkwq+jBZfagmbMYLPK/ PH87qMf0FgJj9Ajz5Rlkd3aXo4MWuCPHZX4PMB6QJyYMROWHhTS37cyWQm9igQ8= =bMwJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmvalin@mozilla.com Fri Sep 6 11:59:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7237A21F999C for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:58:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9SBcQXHxTst4 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx2.corp.phx1.mozilla.com [63.245.216.70]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021B421F90AC for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (modemcable130.97-201-24.mc.videotron.ca [24.201.97.130]) (Authenticated sender: jvalin@mozilla.com) by mx2.mail.corp.phx1.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 44D60F236E; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <522A25D8.1090109@mozilla.com> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 14:58:32 -0400 From: Jean-Marc Valin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tina le Grand References: <20130712222833.13138.87216.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <51E0BDE1.9020901@jmvalin.ca> <51FA7C61.3080704@xiph.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "codec@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [codec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-valin-codec-opus-update-00.txt X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 18:59:03 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tina, Thanks for the feedback. I'll make the changes. > * Section 6. Can you describe how to remove the 180-degree phase > shift? Not sure what part of my explanation isn't clear. What happens is that the encoder has a per-band "inversion flag" it can use for intensity stereo and when the decoder sees that flag, it flips the sign of the right channel to make it 180-degrees out of phase with the left channel. The proposal is simply to make the inversion step optional on the decoder side, even when the flag is set by the encoder. Any suggestion on how to fix the current text? Cheers, Jean-Marc > Thanks, Tina le Grand. > > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Timothy B. Terriberry > > wrote: > > Jean-Marc Valin wrote: > > See these proposed fixes to the Opus RFC. These are minor changes > to the normative part of the reference implementation. > > > With my chair hat on: > > Although JDR originally said we would handle updates to RFC 6716 > through the normal errata process [1], after conferring with our > ADs, we decided to do them via a new draft, so that there was no > question about overriding working group consensus. > > To that end, we'd like to run a consensus call to add a milestone > for doing these updates. It would be helpful to have reviews of > this document before doing that call. 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As such, I'd like to take a call for consensus on the following: 1. Adding a milestone to the WG charter to produce a revision of the Opus specification, 2. Adopting http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-valin-codec-opus-update-00.txt in support of that milestone. This will be a two week call for consensus, ending October 1. Thanks, Jonathan R. -- Jonathan Rosenberg, Ph.D. jdrosen@jdrosen.net http://www.jdrosen.net --047d7b5d67529871d004e6705a1f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Per Tim's note on the list, we're going to do an u= pdate to Opus via a revision to the RFC rather than an errata process. As s= uch, I'd like to take a call for consensus on the following:

1. Adding a milestone to the WG charter to produce a revision of the O= pus specification,
2. Adopting=A0http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-valin-= codec-opus-update-00.txt=A0in support of that milestone.

This will be a two week call for consensus, ending Octo= ber 1.

Thanks,
Jonathan R.

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--047d7b5d67529871d004e6705a1f-- From christian.hoene@symonics.com Sun Sep 15 11:53:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8874811E8195 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 11:53:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.775 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.775 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2b1y3qfAYd-5 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 11:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy14-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (oproxy14-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.51.224]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D6F0111E8193 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 11:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30914 invoked by uid 0); 15 Sep 2013 18:53:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box785.bluehost.com) (66.147.244.85) by oproxy14.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2013 18:53:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=symonics.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:To:From; bh=noXSdPaZq+98pF9RjR30/YykrvARloWb0TaXSbEBJaM=; b=hIxts1Wb8EyLKS7r7qOlhDocXFogC/Q7cD5FVFimx6yQAVuXIwP6tYiHY7ACCiOntyclxkYA9QmgJJchuUFSWlbtdOHuq+EaTJy2a/8YeJeQgF1JFOUl1d67VGrZovu2; Received: from [109.192.195.6] (port=55819 helo=samsung7PC) by box785.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VLHRZ-0007Tz-OG; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 12:53:14 -0600 From: "Christian Hoene" To: "'Jonathan Rosenberg'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 20:53:10 +0200 Message-ID: <005701ceb244$d4dfa570$7e9ef050$@symonics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01CEB255.9869FC10" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQLpO/3lOJo1pq7o3lmiQ0/rtdX45peSEaYQ Content-Language: de X-Identified-User: {1573:box785.bluehost.com:soniconb:symonics.com} {sentby:smtp auth 109.192.195.6 authed with christian.hoene@symonics.com} Subject: Re: [codec] Call for consensus to add a milestone for Opus update and adopt draft-valin-codec-opus-update-00 as a WG item X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 18:53:22 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01CEB255.9869FC10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +1 Von: codec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:codec-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von Jonathan Rosenberg Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. September 2013 20:36 An: codec@ietf.org Betreff: [codec] Call for consensus to add a milestone for Opus update and adopt draft-valin-codec-opus-update-00 as a WG item Per Tim's note on the list, we're going to do an update to Opus via a revision to the RFC rather than an errata process. As such, I'd like to take a call for consensus on the following: 1. Adding a milestone to the WG charter to produce a revision of the Opus specification, 2. Adopting http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-valin-codec-opus-update-00.txt in support of that milestone. This will be a two week call for consensus, ending October 1. Thanks, Jonathan R. -- Jonathan Rosenberg, Ph.D. jdrosen@jdrosen.net http://www.jdrosen.net ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01CEB255.9869FC10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Von:<= /b> = codec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:codec-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von = Jonathan Rosenberg
Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. September 2013 = 20:36
An: codec@ietf.org
Betreff: [codec] Call for = consensus to add a milestone for Opus update and adopt = draft-valin-codec-opus-update-00 as a WG item

 

Per = Tim's note on the list, we're going to do an update to Opus via a = revision to the RFC rather than an errata process. As such, I'd like to = take a call for consensus on the following:

 

1. Adding a milestone to the WG charter to produce a = revision of the Opus specification,

2. Adopting http= ://www.ietf.org/id/draft-valin-codec-opus-update-00.txt in = support of that milestone.

 

This will be a two week call for consensus, ending = October 1.

 

Thanks,

Jonathan R.

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0058_01CEB255.9869FC10-- From stpeter@stpeter.im Sun Sep 15 13:40:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26A111E81CF for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 13:40:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lt8QCO05yek1 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 13:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DE911E81CC for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 13:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ergon.local (unknown [71.237.13.154]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C73CC4166D; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:45:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <52361B4F.1080105@stpeter.im> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:40:47 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Rosenberg References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: codec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [codec] Call for consensus to add a milestone for Opus update and adopt draft-valin-codec-opus-update-00 as a WG item X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 20:40:54 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Good idea. No objections here. On 9/15/13 12:35 PM, Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: > Per Tim's note on the list, we're going to do an update to Opus via > a revision to the RFC rather than an errata process. As such, I'd > like to take a call for consensus on the following: > > 1. Adding a milestone to the WG charter to produce a revision of > the Opus specification, 2. Adopting > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-valin-codec-opus-update-00.txt in > support of that milestone. > > This will be a two week call for consensus, ending October 1. > > Thanks, Jonathan R. > > -- Jonathan Rosenberg, Ph.D. jdrosen@jdrosen.net > http://www.jdrosen.net > > > _______________________________________________ codec mailing list > codec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/codec > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSNhtPAAoJEOoGpJErxa2pBKsP/it4M0dUMfU3lBHpzgl+FGQT aeB8LjO85jRU9mqfbJ2ppMWW6/fsRwKqgOppgjzq1jmQgIokB71EJNHAOZE31SbM f5BycLavddCpFYyUeXMrR08evk2C1jzfPuE61Ec0AjaSkh3Glf37lghphyE1QoXQ vbBcqLfpzCv5dJa4ZrdtBcv7ZWL57NZUj3dRS3q/ZqdEnZ2oDWvcICGrlEvg54bL aVFrQS+4Gg0l/AD5MUamBHw/bumD2SIWLcI7BRg2Zc/zaoyGl/6pRPeNJbGQCG6R 1jRVbIEh1rNcd49tPh9dWIlJ9wHm5Cz0rOk1H75kSxCwBX9xswVZR1NQN18huk80 qQs8DTfaSsFBEZriQ7YdgoCltig60xDo4CQFB9rH85R24esqXR1SObDqyFZfLknv O+z6UAS8e/WuOjIfGqfVbcj2GsMNR0jKpIr4jBtKgUe3I7yp3/Fib57nBjot8BvD 6635dsTOp7hSNPlQCV+scfOgxkwqqCD/ME4F0ZOR6xOR2FHiFjyfbPMIFVckiJ8v cmanbD+lPvIaf2Sdc2y5tiIQmQ/n8OKhXBmai+6vgGSLXCuejSq+4jG3N5cPj3if 80YBh40KU9pUa/wKqdhMiVbUo1URofhqeUMVCY68PwgeQdgEHGX3OvKjQat/joC7 zZBfVeO7cG9BWWQ/7FWt =4LHk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----