From nobody Wed Jul 1 09:41:34 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9AD1A9245 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2015 09:41:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RDjYtFNmFpmF for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2015 09:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk0-f169.google.com (mail-qk0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 981011A1EF6 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2015 09:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qkei195 with SMTP id i195so33456037qke.3 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 09:41:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:references:to:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t9fA7Xj/HBM0AVqL3xCEAgeV6uktOsLCgNjTRGEV1WQ=; b=P6gNAJBtnmETdTDXsGyiQuGtL0L90cVrZk7KipKCGWNnLsZyxc2JiNA0pdGqAniQoj R5LYccBwygsnImPwv3nwp31wncFNCH9jMWvac6psJfmrSqjICcQutQk+2s8Qj4Hu1WQS 6hF/YzLcCA0Xc6NKH5sVVrUMwp65hhWooWDRis+DY2qWpDZA5QBiSLi01ZHF2SLva4Q7 1m9OLy74Vx9+wdPFE1fJND/G7f60dUJDxaAtifJuBfPOUZtc7aUmko9awQxVhOsiKkII ihE9QEEY6xZKbJGBxSraRQqLY5V4a23UWIC/LWahxoAAB2fjH6R1aM1hz6UTu2v41znm iHaQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl5Tm166nq1DFlAGpyvu0D++LfT3/nALQCwjSwdpfWwEmmlH4+WMi4YvbW4MR9kcvNODpJz X-Received: by 10.140.133.199 with SMTP id 190mr37007039qhf.17.1435768889783; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 09:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panoramix.jmvalin.ca (modemcable074.170-201-24.mc.videotron.ca. [24.201.170.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g33sm1262306qgg.4.2015.07.01.09.41.28 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 01 Jul 2015 09:41:29 -0700 (PDT) References: <20150630233317.A955D18046B@rfc-editor.org> To: "opus@xiph.org" , "codec@ietf.org" From: Jean-Marc Valin X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20150630233317.A955D18046B@rfc-editor.org> Message-ID: <55941838.1030408@jmvalin.ca> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 12:41:28 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150630233317.A955D18046B@rfc-editor.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [codec] Fwd: [payload] RFC 7587 on RTP Payload Format for the Opus Speech and Audio Codec X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 16:41:32 -0000 FYI, the Opus RTP payload format is now RFC7587: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7587 Cheers, Jean-Marc -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [payload] RFC 7587 on RTP Payload Format for the Opus Speech and Audio Codec Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:33:17 -0700 (PDT) From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org CC: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, payload@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 7587 Title: RTP Payload Format for the Opus Speech and Audio Codec Author: J. Spittka, K. Vos, JM. Valin Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: June 2015 Mailbox: jspittka@gmail.com, koenvos74@gmail.com, jmvalin@jmvalin.ca Pages: 18 Characters: 41770 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-opus-11.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7587 DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7587 This document defines the Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) payload format for packetization of Opus-encoded speech and audio data necessary to integrate the codec in the most compatible way. It also provides an applicability statement for the use of Opus over RTP. Further, it describes media type registrations for the RTP payload format. This document is a product of the Audio/Video Transport Payloads Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC _______________________________________________ payload mailing list payload@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload From nobody Mon Jul 6 16:58:21 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B661A1BF5; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 16:58:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IfRSyJpTHox4; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 16:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3E91A86F6; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 16:58:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.4.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150706235810.12297.94490.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:58:10 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: codec@ietf.org Subject: [codec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-codec-oggopus-08.txt X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 23:58:18 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Internet Wideband Audio Codec Working Group of the IETF. Title : Ogg Encapsulation for the Opus Audio Codec Authors : Timothy B. Terriberry Ron Lee Ralph Giles Filename : draft-ietf-codec-oggopus-08.txt Pages : 31 Date : 2015-07-06 Abstract: This document defines the Ogg encapsulation for the Opus interactive speech and audio codec. This allows data encoded in the Opus format to be stored in an Ogg logical bitstream. Ogg encapsulation provides Opus with a long-term storage format supporting all of the essential features, including metadata, fast and accurate seeking, corruption detection, recapture after errors, low overhead, and the ability to multiplex Opus with other codecs (including video) with minimal buffering. It also provides a live streamable format, capable of delivery over a reliable stream-oriented transport, without requiring all the data, or even the total length of the data, up-front, in a form that is identical to the on-disk storage format. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-codec-oggopus/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-codec-oggopus-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-codec-oggopus-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jul 6 17:01:40 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D861A1BC9 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 17:01:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_FAIL=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cFUH_nmh8ANp for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 17:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx2.scl3.mozilla.com [63.245.214.156]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5F351A1A6A for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 17:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost6.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.mail.scl3.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC87C12EE for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 00:01:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mozilla.org Received: from smtp.mozilla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.mail.scl3.mozilla.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tWVogmm62Usg for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 00:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.252.26.16] (corp.mtv2.mozilla.com [63.245.221.32]) (Authenticated sender: tterriberry@mozilla.com) by mx2.mail.scl3.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4CB23C11D9 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 00:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <559B16E1.3030409@xiph.org> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 17:01:37 -0700 From: "Timothy B. Terriberry" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "codec@ietf.org" References: <55528365.3090100@xiph.org> <555347A5.9030601@xiph.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [codec] draft-ietf-codec-oggopus-07 packet sizes X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 00:01:39 -0000 Mark Harris wrote: > I've incorporated the earlier comments and made separate limits for > the comment header, clarifying that comment header packets exceeding > 61,440 octets may be partially processed but not rejected entirely > unless they exceed a much larger size. This size was chosen somewhat > arbitrarily to be 120 * 2^20 octets, which should be sufficient for > any reasonable album art in addition to other comments. Thanks for these changes. I had a few comments on them, but Mark and I discussed them in detail off-list. I believe we've agreed on some new text, which I just published in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-codec-oggopus-08