
From nobody Fri Jan 12 10:38:16 2018
Return-Path: <odonoghue@isoc.org>
X-Original-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0867412785F for <emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:38:14 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.002
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=isoc.org
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d80aS_lGiWLr for <emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:38:12 -0800 (PST)
Received: from NAM01-SN1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-sn1nam01on0067.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.32.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0648C1200C5 for <emo-dir@ietf.org>; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:38:12 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isoc.org; s=selector1;  h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=Ny/UmUGP4/6KrXEbMLL5/yU/q6U1M+MSQW0/3HKuzhM=; b=QpWuFczaexXZi1Z6eFBbXmTga3BhmdxSRLR/kNA76Ov8ARW9dC8CNurvmHjZGGrBijh3yodWaXJO2AoIQj8wZShd8/r8HSMZem5q/gat5irGySE4yNzfUw1kdZQOunD4CQiiaihVTr5fIgbiEfEaqMYswJcmV6eD6XUwSJU6i54=
Received: from BN6PR06MB3108.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.174.232.12) by BN6PR06MB3108.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.174.232.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P256) id 15.20.386.5; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:38:03 +0000
Received: from BN6PR06MB3108.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.174.232.12]) by BN6PR06MB3108.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.174.232.12]) with mapi id 15.20.0386.008; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:38:03 +0000
From: Karen O'Donoghue <odonoghue@isoc.org>
To: "emo-dir@ietf.org" <emo-dir@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: Staffing change for IETF mentoring program
Thread-Index: AQHTi9R61iX460RI/kCF83RZseMRVg==
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:38:02 +0000
Message-ID: <084148C2-FC7E-4423-A606-088BA0EB4DC9@isoc.org>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=odonoghue@isoc.org; 
x-originating-ip: [173.44.72.144]
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BN6PR06MB3108; 6:7QHa/dFbgMsNs/HzJ0sX3GPWdvtOb6KoK51mH2NNCTh5oWqoEqioBJ3KbvacaYmBMIrPNUMWLDw0XVQjlcP7/X3s2Mt+jWux44LGixhJbpFcEGeLt8BVB13ISh6ToJMznCoT1/4v3NrAc3pvpvyV3I56sIjyoGqfFsNbB6ZehQqeRlY2WsuYtt/Mmcg879f1ftonzUA+enojX39N87/MnTjZ80Sv46bq3EK7t7QUknFydM6ybASsOoPuQr2/n6hXxRofKMOGwC5FVh2Ac0ulOe1DwIVmN4MxhVzbQ1MU1vxK8casOySLV9z69pJckcs3K0jT91u/YE6Z8YhN248UkClV6QILJsRAZBLB/qC+Ik/ntTj9YEf7wBRU/dEp0OB0; 5:wtivheWTTlX9LtCGhtjNwao8yR+h0Jev66pVXZRWhqxD9h3v9rH+/LEg9eZOUbXbm/eoArxu5RP6aHijQkrobx8mkCJ7braRXFQdsxbom+uBBtsBDUAPkuNiDsRR6ztZrFmvWVZ3hq1uHO0s/0czp3yc6QcoYvNNQZTMIZidUfU=; 24:cNvpuPRv+bkcHjJRUMdWE+BMLrQWy/+Uq31fWtIwkFpADk/Jb3Bl7XuGMljP1dVYrvIdJ8KUj5MUb0Qi5lUaORJSinoUYz3fqDhFzD8gqH8=; 7:xVxL9JDBIEHcAgCcL0D+itP0cXlrf3ZO5LKImeF4BAy1G6GI6mANgM2NR8E6sCSE4D+ayKrB025tih92FVnhIvxoxEViPnkZsAOe/SIkzxZl6dqZNkcrxtet3btNadfTccIUSbTTAqYu09xFp7ZqbMWnlRiL/vmi1pMSzx+f5yBHtNaxnY1gdqa8/Dw2526/8Xh8m8LykXfQjM7gihpuoHU8f9EaWGwlkd08U2BiHeVqIGsqxtI17fslBz6nkp62
x-ms-exchange-antispam-srfa-diagnostics: SSOS;
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 4eb2df34-7758-4d1f-dff2-08d559eb9d12
x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(7020085)(4652020)(5600026)(4604075)(3008032)(4534115)(4602075)(4627211)(201703031133081)(201702281549075)(2017052603307)(7153060)(7193020); SRVR:BN6PR06MB3108; 
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: BN6PR06MB3108:
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <BN6PR06MB310813411A854911AFE06B00C2170@BN6PR06MB3108.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(788757137089);
x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(6040470)(2401047)(8121501046)(5005006)(10201501046)(93006095)(93001095)(3231023)(944501146)(3002001)(6041268)(20161123562045)(20161123558120)(20161123560045)(201703131423095)(201702281528075)(20161123555045)(201703061421075)(201703061406153)(20161123564045)(6072148)(201708071742011); SRVR:BN6PR06MB3108; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(100000803101)(100110400095); SRVR:BN6PR06MB3108; 
x-forefront-prvs: 0550778858
x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(376002)(396003)(346002)(39840400004)(366004)(39380400002)(199004)(189003)(316002)(305945005)(53936002)(81166006)(5660300001)(8676002)(81156014)(7736002)(33656002)(478600001)(8936002)(2900100001)(6506007)(14454004)(3846002)(2906002)(2501003)(6116002)(36756003)(68736007)(3280700002)(105586002)(83716003)(2351001)(106356001)(25786009)(82746002)(86362001)(99286004)(6436002)(5640700003)(6512007)(102836004)(6916009)(97736004)(66066001)(3660700001)(77096006)(6486002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:BN6PR06MB3108; H:BN6PR06MB3108.namprd06.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords;  A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; 
received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: isoc.org does not designate permitted sender hosts)
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: C6OLumCry51a/oG3SrSSgJiYmBi/1vs9jf15OrsflsnRYWYSC6El83BZVEN9Ay4ZAV2bPAAUaq6GJ41o4+6KZg==
spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99
spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-ID: <340A22A86843884A8C7039B4E3249E3A@namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginatorOrg: isoc.org
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 4eb2df34-7758-4d1f-dff2-08d559eb9d12
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 12 Jan 2018 18:38:02.9614 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 89f84dfb-7285-4810-bc4d-8b9b5794554f
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN6PR06MB3108
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emo-dir/P2GkuEhwduEeNz1NIym8yKb_qQ8>
Subject: [Emo-dir] Staffing change for IETF mentoring program
X-BeenThere: emo-dir@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate" <emo-dir.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/emo-dir>, <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/emo-dir/>
List-Post: <mailto:emo-dir@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir>, <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:38:14 -0000

Folks,

After a number of years of energetic and passionate support for the IETF Me=
ntoring program, Nalini will be stepping down as the lead of that program e=
ffective immediately. We thank her for her hard work and dedication to the =
success of newcomers to the IETF.=20

Alissa and I have already discussed some possible candidates to replace her=
, but I welcome any suggestions you might have as well. We will announce th=
is change to the full community once we have identified her replacement.=20

Regards,
Karen


From nobody Fri Jan 26 11:21:37 2018
Return-Path: <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D8A1241F5 for <emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:21:35 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9,  DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0NAEmPHvJVkN for <emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:21:34 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-pf0-x242.google.com (mail-pf0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E04112D962 for <emo-dir@ietf.org>; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:21:18 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-pf0-x242.google.com with SMTP id i66so885677pfd.7 for <emo-dir@ietf.org>; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:21:18 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025;  h=to:from:organization:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gWQI/cs2/sEA6raecjLWMp1gHO7ylIo9Vnt3Gk+nlk4=; b=hk1L41+Nxbqy2zX6G3QMJy0hAFwDIjWE/wquu2yNyNDR1mKzC3jydX6RWoGd/Ff0Kd BmKFB0e0ku4Ksf9tRMNojep83pmoHxdLlej5Yrq8zweYfjfPFSGdED1hdfl8rfAkIpHR WqmyVgLM0qlkeaoCrgGeWIS5VvzyDbd76rqewhl77D908byciZDxeisnww5ENY0yGwmt 1i57Ghqe8MQ6XeKFIFwAWUpaFwxaDuemOzB+jK31uyIiwKYvgcWkXTznc2DI0RAnraGz +jDLv92aDD9Db6HuowsDRP4koKr6/crz23SsL5xttHBCneHr4Q0vnGdrUFOj/fiqNbFf 4MZQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:organization:subject:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gWQI/cs2/sEA6raecjLWMp1gHO7ylIo9Vnt3Gk+nlk4=; b=Rf0163xBUmt51W088d8uBib08/Rvo87IADPPYx00CrENJw2DDab2EohK4xFVpcQ0/T 0uhwj9oVGgBKM/QAlL44wJpc3z6VUh4urfG56y0GZGsLIMKfdKllgi3atJKZst9tf8pr zd+CfqgqZFm8MYjpbvaYHMbM36zVAtLuVsg1C3w8zohmLDiNcMC2Fgvx5DoNc3SrhSU9 2EbBB/uc2YXXDC9n30dphJjYzZoesgdqdT8VhnMD5zAyaii7M0ltKthJKwrcTUApTZST 6f5xEG5O/2Uezl3zNs4NXgfjtY93zfm5MTG7QDznRq0OxzBnUDRJvCTpI6MTByH+xBEy GFzA==
X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytfSRgp4I0ktucwmGrb6q713tQqEpiF8yWUAB/VzA7F7c3VBEsaC YchEgx2716rgrSvZd0onuCBorw==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x227MQ6GIKra8bC8YEO2pejDZIODBInb+8mzZhBqzcWntWuSKJSqeepj8h7SScl8whxIAVJB+Yg==
X-Received: by 10.99.126.17 with SMTP id z17mr16029208pgc.338.1516994477661; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:21:17 -0800 (PST)
Received: from ?IPv6:2406:e001:57b1:1:28cc:dc4c:9703:6781? ([2406:e001:57b1:1:28cc:dc4c:9703:6781]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k195sm8311993pgc.61.2018.01.26.11.21.15 for <emo-dir@ietf.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:21:16 -0800 (PST)
To: emo-dir@ietf.org
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Organization: University of Auckland
Message-ID: <02b087ef-fecf-d195-8adc-1de88c453ae8@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 08:21:25 +1300
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emo-dir/GTLT8FpqTwO-eZKOjFMpsh9LQHg>
Subject: [Emo-dir] New web site and EMO
X-BeenThere: emo-dir@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate" <emo-dir.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/emo-dir>, <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/emo-dir/>
List-Post: <mailto:emo-dir@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir>, <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 19:21:36 -0000

Hi,

The new IETF home page is not, IMHO, a good front door to the educational
meterial. You have to guess it's under About and then guess again that
it's under Participate in the IETF. Even then you don't find a link to
the Tao, which badly needs revision.

Worse, the "links" page https://www.ietf.org/links/ points directly to
https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/emodir/about/ which is pretty much useless
as informational material. It doesn't even list the members of the directorate.

The material at https://www6.ietf.org/edu/ seems to have gone missing.

Regards
   Brian Carpenter



From nobody Tue Jan 30 08:20:56 2018
Return-Path: <alissa@cooperw.in>
X-Original-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D63912EC99 for <emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 08:20:55 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.699
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=cooperw.in header.b=XS8ujwG4; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=pq1L3WKF
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 953meBaeeaoq for <emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 08:20:53 -0800 (PST)
Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9051A1318C7 for <emo-dir@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 08:19:20 -0800 (PST)
Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72A920D70 for <emo-dir@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:19:19 -0500 (EST)
Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:19:19 -0500
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cooperw.in; h= content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=jBEveU 71Ot22bXaM/D34F08KDg0vTvfGuDkUYkLySUQ=; b=XS8ujwG4ywdztrGZGJZIc7 HippdEnZHNXb9tfY2gJrKRPkJcNNuf/DYsw4Pf7kVC8uHmevqVAjl6qRJ7Mji8Hw V7bUrCeb3Cwwmqmx9oiee4J97bjTexLc0wYKAqnjcSBzlbKf8AbnzrrQXVI3CBE4 +eAYrI0+XKCjGuLELVRxZmo9Ce9daQF5MpByxwTSdc6l0n5bWf9eJW/NyRBs0liF fwtTYtL4t9LcY73De5VYE+/kbYgsaHy4jIsatzQIxxMu9yiBGHThqg3IBYtKa1xU +GobH24i2LPtF9FqaWuj22JIrWYB/OSRsQG4kzxiqREPUyO/spmrSPiotYvgSQNA ==
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=jBEveU71Ot22bXaM/D34F08KDg0vTvfGuDkUYkLyS UQ=; b=pq1L3WKF5jp+gU7QtFRyXeyDstNkWWzgaVcmibzQPLhO8shaUu1RECjtJ D0J+fvz0+TlUoAXAWYPhXnJIEgPTg4SHJwqi+NxP6UOwpLfK/toIMi3BgV9WLc47 ZzbyJmCloBBwfnTasFt0/aoV6IRd687XbFzrPbNEg/E4KqIVvPql1rqJieVKFpwh 0EDxgV6yblimMAEP6As6Di6BQwOdmKnSVlF3tjM39g+Jgwd76VxChDMCtfAU0B5m HcJsMXTkZCQ2Pz0MWVvXN3cpKy65thndE3LVVo10zjvLocIxb3A2GeaX6I1Ib08q 7SvLq9sTTyy6wOzNX9m/nU1OJGkyQ==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:B5twWqMy0XZQ2b0fCaB-SYpbJLh0htlCK_FEjBkxAUHeKN-5hkMiWA>
Received: from [10.19.234.244] (unknown [128.107.241.176]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 021AE24610 for <emo-dir@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:19:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A7946726-A35A-4C65-A065-80739F280C75"
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:19:16 -0500
References: <02b087ef-fecf-d195-8adc-1de88c453ae8@gmail.com>
To: emo-dir@ietf.org
Message-Id: <00F6A936-C68D-45B7-8858-40BE8A9FD2CF@cooperw.in>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\))
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emo-dir/K5RIFlNN8PwxTou_sER5s7RvHj8>
Subject: [Emo-dir] Fwd:  New web site and EMO
X-BeenThere: emo-dir@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate" <emo-dir.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/emo-dir>, <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/emo-dir/>
List-Post: <mailto:emo-dir@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir>, <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:20:55 -0000

--Apple-Mail=_A7946726-A35A-4C65-A065-80739F280C75
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset=utf-8

Karen, Greg, would one of you be able to respond to this note as well as =
the messages in the thread about 'More guidance and directions for new =
drafts/comers=E2=80=99 on ietf@ietf.org <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>? You two =
are best positioned to represent where we are as far as organization and =
presentation of material for newcomers.

Thanks,
Alissa

> Begin forwarded message:
>=20
> From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Emo-dir] New web site and EMO
> Date: January 26, 2018 at 2:21:25 PM EST
> To: emo-dir@ietf.org
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> The new IETF home page is not, IMHO, a good front door to the =
educational
> meterial. You have to guess it's under About and then guess again that
> it's under Participate in the IETF. Even then you don't find a link to
> the Tao, which badly needs revision.
>=20
> Worse, the "links" page https://www.ietf.org/links/ points directly to
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/emodir/about/ which is pretty much =
useless
> as informational material. It doesn't even list the members of the =
directorate.
>=20
> The material at https://www6.ietf.org/edu/ seems to have gone missing.
>=20
> Regards
>   Brian Carpenter
>=20
>=20
> _______________________________________________
> Emo-dir mailing list
> Emo-dir@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir


--Apple-Mail=_A7946726-A35A-4C65-A065-80739F280C75
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset=utf-8

<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Karen, Greg, would one of you be able to respond to this note =
as well as the messages in the thread about '<font face=3D"Helvetica =
Neue" class=3D"">More guidance and directions for new drafts/comers=E2=80=99=
 on</font>&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:ietf@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">ietf@ietf.org</a>? You two are best positioned to represent =
where we are as far as organization and presentation of material for =
newcomers.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"">Alissa<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Begin =
forwarded message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Brian E Carpenter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">[Emo-dir] New web =
site and EMO</b><br class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Date: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: =
-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">January 26, 2018 at 2:21:25 PM EST<br =
class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">To: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:emo-dir@ietf.org" class=3D"">emo-dir@ietf.org</a><br =
class=3D""></span></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Hi,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The new IETF home page is =
not, IMHO, a good front door to the educational<br class=3D"">meterial. =
You have to guess it's under About and then guess again that<br =
class=3D"">it's under Participate in the IETF. Even then you don't find =
a link to<br class=3D"">the Tao, which badly needs revision.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Worse, the "links" page <a =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/links/" =
class=3D"">https://www.ietf.org/links/</a> points directly to<br =
class=3D""><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/emodir/about/" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/emodir/about/</a> which is =
pretty much useless<br class=3D"">as informational material. It doesn't =
even list the members of the directorate.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The=
 material at <a href=3D"https://www6.ietf.org/edu/" =
class=3D"">https://www6.ietf.org/edu/</a> seems to have gone missing.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Regards<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;Brian =
Carpenter<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br =
class=3D"">Emo-dir mailing list<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:Emo-dir@ietf.org" class=3D"">Emo-dir@ietf.org</a><br =
class=3D"">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir<br =
class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
class=3D""></div></body></html>=

--Apple-Mail=_A7946726-A35A-4C65-A065-80739F280C75--


From nobody Tue Jan 30 10:50:59 2018
Return-Path: <wood@isoc.org>
X-Original-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDD712EBF0 for <emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:50:56 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9,  DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=isoc.org
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lBWi6UvDmKTH for <emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:50:53 -0800 (PST)
Received: from NAM02-SN1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-sn1nam02on0043.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.36.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8074312EAD6 for <emo-dir@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:50:32 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isoc.org; s=selector1;  h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=+FM+5mmqXG7DRNPrQ9Zc18nVwGmWWedxBKwZ8ghbFOM=; b=teYwpdnZfAj31X7+L+yPbqRONAj98IvdkfYE5+LFjWGMjNwHnXqG3r5B6cSvJBy6i6UUmlOqC0TNqInCsrpOZyjSeXv+Fskqh1kgXnY7+2cPg45bsatue4QIt0JEpHHHAO7TuQTao8aOdmVyTcTpBo3nOepZjeq7DSpgWP1BIIU=
Authentication-Results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=wood@isoc.org; 
Received: from [IPv6:2001:4870:400e:402:6047:c82f:bcd6:da61] (2001:4870:400e:402:6047:c82f:bcd6:da61) by DM5PR0601MB3621.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:4:7c::19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P256) id 15.20.444.14; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 18:50:29 +0000
From: Greg Wood <wood@isoc.org>
Message-Id: <F68BFDB8-5CA3-4F23-BDFB-1C02279BDD39@isoc.org>
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B0F2ACDC-1652-4411-A10E-7E4859CAC75A"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\))
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 13:50:24 -0500
In-Reply-To: <02b087ef-fecf-d195-8adc-1de88c453ae8@gmail.com>
Cc: emo-dir@ietf.org
To: Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
References: <02b087ef-fecf-d195-8adc-1de88c453ae8@gmail.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20)
X-Originating-IP: [2001:4870:400e:402:6047:c82f:bcd6:da61]
X-ClientProxiedBy: SN2PR01CA0030.prod.exchangelabs.com (2603:10b6:804:2::40) To DM5PR0601MB3621.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:4:7c::19)
X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email
X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 0c2c0b97-4cef-4f6b-1f9c-08d56812558b
X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(7020095)(4652020)(4534165)(4627221)(201703031133081)(201702281549075)(5600026)(4604075)(2017052603307)(7153060)(7193020); SRVR:DM5PR0601MB3621; 
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1; DM5PR0601MB3621; 3:OiD+UHk0SC9OyDR5JkvM5+hkvQRP7uS+IdVjCCf58ip4WHBrNvsjpAXpogGJJ2S/IlGch+svcoGOtK3HDWOnnDuZXF5/46ihWG8InYqBN0aZiT7Q2TC/VUOCvBqfuyUrkdo+OoicXi4K2BDAIHQH3cv2KcDoaXQM1YtBAaIPQPfGMhLalsed1WpXzgu7W4AeICSALk3CJV2nlNjzkSvA0+cJP4wOLEXXQiOyerMi3ihhR7XcYehsF/DzsbV7VqTx; 25:M7oJm4th7c1c9me42lRuT97t2SpcLI/GUicc7yMuWMPQwCM9mcGleZn5sKD08qz0IJG/VW4VPwcDMUWoDf/DBrTjFOwpvFbL9VIJQ1wXCfYiHyZ0lexpOo2c04gy9WGkh9D7EB92NO4dsiNCnhpl41/ivq2+KYaC3Nd6+JLI9WPa3o2l7x2hTgV3GBlYGOtLtZcyfI3FjuGo/OSysbHqBMv+UvYQv3bk4BVg7nNw0ZAI5vg9rtqtsZ5jtwGyoE23+z+qv/usQXl16k8oKmibQepXteUuqoO2KbYea/ojDjXMbVOMQzqLE1fIcULCzJJOpRONCzt/UT1OoAZhVAk55Q==; 31:EdeelucCX3MkqIXCRwXU6js1tF9EH1dFMunWh4cI2N6dgdVvBS8WNXVAu0geiAwT/nVlAvZalg4WCPZQ0sP4MYuV+1ySfAPT3enKNykcQ7k/yOv8a80RrnW+HDQZ8hLukX7TqEv3Awnhob286gUyu/czCVoTxgymt5DywocRf05wHvw6x8tnwH+UMdZSPco9T6nSp9OYEcolcBlVn2ou7JALT9oKq7LrlsdXx7I4FVQ=
X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: DM5PR0601MB3621:
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1; DM5PR0601MB3621; 20: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; 4:1d/gzbaVnVdYo6wmY3Ikqyw5jb9pnQOAASreLQtjIqw9cws5L68ad8g9j8Hb3sFqYOKNzr22w5gJiQ/zADacLsbDW8g3Gk0bKvUnrKRJ7iLEv1tnXmieCmZ6UGC11DVfgLMtMBeNIf9yY8xcoZuQCj6UPjLEz7N76RhIPJIVJKUoA3irIBvttgdPH2YLVZr/UXago5YdZb5DP+2WBdAfdsWqTL46veTBtaf5Ae2VOyaBUELl0dpO299/hh7J07ttdycOUu04dWnxfQA6pEbRFvI+YgOQr7Crb60lxWv33V0EJpEICrmpkCCiCtnxHfenA4qzsnjU09Ni2j6FLzHVzUNnNoaw8XPAvCDp2EAugbY=
X-Microsoft-Antispam-PRVS: <DM5PR0601MB36216CA49D9ADCA25BEB1A78ABE40@DM5PR0601MB3621.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:(120809045254105)(85827821059158);
X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(6040501)(2401047)(5005006)(8121501046)(3002001)(10201501046)(3231101)(944501161)(93006095)(93001095)(6041288)(20161123564045)(201703131423095)(201702281528075)(20161123555045)(201703061421075)(201703061406153)(20161123560045)(20161123562045)(20161123558120)(6072148)(201708071742011); SRVR:DM5PR0601MB3621; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:DM5PR0601MB3621; 
X-Forefront-PRVS: 0568F32D91
X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(39380400002)(396003)(376002)(39840400004)(366004)(346002)(189003)(199004)(81166006)(16586007)(105586002)(966005)(52396003)(69556001)(8936002)(8676002)(478600001)(15974865002)(82746002)(81156014)(5660300001)(97736004)(5890100001)(316002)(229853002)(76176011)(36756003)(53936002)(6306002)(6666003)(25786009)(6486002)(53546011)(2906002)(33964004)(386003)(305945005)(52116002)(6916009)(7736002)(2950100002)(106356001)(6246003)(6116002)(568964002)(4326008)(33656002)(68736007)(86362001)(83716003)(84326002)(1706002)(57306001)(39060400002)(50226002)(16526019)(186003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:DM5PR0601MB3621; H:[IPv6:2001:4870:400e:402:6047:c82f:bcd6:da61]; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; 
Received-SPF: None (protection.outlook.com: isoc.org does not designate permitted sender hosts)
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: =?us-ascii?Q?1; DM5PR0601MB3621; 23:oY4xjbrBeTABZcc1Q7bjLShARskMSJSkGuEnViR?= =?us-ascii?Q?z7vSgdKAYCPlyb7gnSZIAZ8/BCfBnqObODaS9Z5+kDnVAXN32eZlWRTMHvL9?= =?us-ascii?Q?uWOw+PWY2IWvyPHK3KnG8f8RKsnjsCtbHZA66BDo4BA2uzMB791cyDpiazpG?= =?us-ascii?Q?RdaAvsFF/uKZaxRhYFp5BB/gO02n57c04pDcI2kbDZ4gHf0i82AW+Une5+/a?= =?us-ascii?Q?/QcdlYF0ne9SYmBT1oVVOM1exu6qpGo4GG7SRk1qkshqekCyHee2V3vI5vOR?= =?us-ascii?Q?1KvCr2BdI99P/i6BHb+S/30dUazgLdQuyBVjmA8lXUSgLpyxgedi2F+94KWr?= =?us-ascii?Q?T70Z42VVNzLWk4rMn8Ni9Xe92kQ2b0nQF1I1fZrn0RVLYEsZgFytp0bqigcY?= =?us-ascii?Q?S32w8X1iwlW1sGWTtYV1eqYc8oAIMOpecwYoQ0Nh33xulCeMjR4ny+HKJF7C?= =?us-ascii?Q?dQ47zgXLEuoVVwZ4uJAhBh1OwRhKIy1GnoOoq0OWziiXs12D7FqRuI8gTjL4?= =?us-ascii?Q?gzTZVk4iqUdefhhmLOCD5rdiLAGVuMVTf8bq3ZmV4+LXL6bjJa5Xyxf3LWb0?= =?us-ascii?Q?7tGL8Yco9WBvoSmfeYvKTDytsHlm+HtrI97n/cCfSMAfRwY7X9zq0WLoBjEG?= =?us-ascii?Q?wxE8KZh420IJ7Fxs4JjowObSX+54JPsxcbHTjK6XC2b3+T318Vogqf3YVTI0?= =?us-ascii?Q?tn+Y70jmmP1hY25Mi7rBQufrFyh27MhZoIQXxC4fszlhun/ekOwRQuqVt+3Y?= =?us-ascii?Q?QvrHPRdTqdCwvSPVPvmP1RuxHidJPjFlgGGtRYnRwanCSg2XhcVZhnXEhGhi?= =?us-ascii?Q?lpsIoxVbScY8oDxKGndk4qrbgvaoon3x7mWnYXaSHeEJSyK1wbfNhP7rapMm?= =?us-ascii?Q?CLnxeFuWKkz6nahdh/k3mV63zzvUPtOYhZJUAuTzjV/xjXBVrbcpS+ua+LCH?= =?us-ascii?Q?v6/QJm0RmXS4SQG4DTjqddxZXrvD0D6W7aH+LS1kuzuVus3eHfSuXXWW86wG?= =?us-ascii?Q?aLlbjbbcxNYQWBCx+4AkBVeU8w4gQBkHRfeeiVK34Q0EUS2QxmnYTtHzB7LA?= =?us-ascii?Q?qFNLn1LxRzUZ87MamRsz2r9jwSxKq+h4B+D2g/lMl1qunQ3pdXuYtc/Toc9u?= =?us-ascii?Q?7NO1FpvDjnVR8c8jgn3jRLYEPQGCrxf7qd2lBoF3DyVqlOQNdcx50dGuddj1?= =?us-ascii?Q?iQWN591g06DKxG4rxGC/YzwPsH/h8Uhs0Fbj+kFu6YYEp7Uo4p52U+nCN/Ss?= =?us-ascii?Q?HyClWmlVf73gwkg5rQsClSo8C6NX7FLYho6VlhR17nCA0C1uk0zF8PgJlkPW?= =?us-ascii?Q?nG/pU1tnh4We9yQVc/wYZGW0=3D?=
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1; DM5PR0601MB3621; 6:saR/KmTMDCF+emqE5Vyr+AL837nT40+LwpGiiL352IRXWRrgmwMXvZRCreVsBgUr7i/ZiNCdg3/Q8B7A8c2VhrkqLvEqrA6u5BaeSZK7nIbGUKLFG5h8hvfLNNH9W1ru2EWQZbFY8ctqLGJCESpmAN5F5T4aPG07yi/Jjp0PCwIvJMplM3MrAuufADi/6FhIa3d8YeccERbNQ2m4qTjqL87WJdc26nQpg+83jOpz2xY6Cv5uqL4tHzhAX6sHeXSWQtq0XwGA62qVq5cntu8GbroAVNnM0TAjsuhEp3ZoMeTmgdTSH8Q+gn5iPpBagOdh+ocwqs5rhI/AgaPbi8pBvqx2IAYLmv0RNtsLniy/u64=; 5:3xWttCShANV/gOAKPAedSCagxZX/AImpb955MSH//ZIxwWnvCTsZMN95BhFnmn/G03Q06ou5ClTiW74+2AvYjiT5gjIlUt/7WXGWPsJ8Yh3yNEQQvLouY4NaEsNZ88C8sTQaA04/bvyA/08QiKWZxPBjq01nCpx/MJaZpXxowwk=; 24:KDH51gAcMDvTWgEGu5rx0MiQ1MB+0kkbOibQBTPovv4D7+lIGQQR6bV/VddaFrenOYC7q51BJT0zOfodfDLtXNvqsglhDG/ZhEckdkHTQkQ=; 7:rqDx7TV8+yUARQk8tKRqrf4ZC4bduvg7GBNVP6LlZEdm6+uvFvbW7PcdDCaRvyWV9WeUSclvCthsOKxmNTrWPm5E4wWLrIc9ZGAqo8/iKnd7txMzuk47f7u/c2DeIY4CypotPyjOeoC5y+PQiDWIUPgu5gIGwsd8WusZpeagVo9QiAvwGRDFGaxRS18ypJJoyUgcpBhBF4TJ5d7OHC7JII2W23Xzscb9t4VyVakMo0IfLR9SNFn+68Vtfaei8Jhh
SpamDiagnosticOutput: 1:99
SpamDiagnosticMetadata: NSPM
X-OriginatorOrg: isoc.org
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2018 18:50:29.3861 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 0c2c0b97-4cef-4f6b-1f9c-08d56812558b
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 89f84dfb-7285-4810-bc4d-8b9b5794554f
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM5PR0601MB3621
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emo-dir/WZCZvvMu1m2VA7tADgfdxQlpVgU>
Subject: Re: [Emo-dir] New web site and EMO
X-BeenThere: emo-dir@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate" <emo-dir.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/emo-dir>, <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/emo-dir/>
List-Post: <mailto:emo-dir@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir>, <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 18:50:56 -0000

--Apple-Mail=_B0F2ACDC-1652-4411-A10E-7E4859CAC75A
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset=utf-8

(I believe Karen is in all-day meetings this week, so I=E2=80=99m =
providing some info below, but she may have additional thoughts and =
pointers).

Hi Brian,

The navigation at www.ietf.org is informed by input from the key =
audiences defined in the SOW The aim is to provide them the information =
they are seeking where they would natural look. For example, someone new =
to the IETF will see =E2=80=9CParticipate in the IETF=E2=80=9D under =
=E2=80=9CAbout=E2=80=9D, and from there find =E2=80=9CGetting Started in =
the IETF=E2=80=9D.  The Tao is listed under =E2=80=9CResources=E2=80=9D =
(https://www.ietf.org/about/participate/get-started/resources/) and as a =
related link under =E2=80=9CAttending meetings=E2=80=9D.

In short, the idea is to embed the work of the EMO directorate where it =
makes most sense for the audiences it (each individual piece of work) is =
aimed at. An example not involving newcomers, is the WG leadership =
training linked from here (https://www.ietf.org/chairs/), produced by =
the EMO Dir (n=C3=A9e EDUteam). There=E2=80=99s still work to be done, =
of course. For example, Area overview tutorials might be linked from the =
Areas page (https://www.ietf.org/topics/areas/). I=E2=80=99m hoping =
we=E2=80=99ll be able to do further testing with the target audiences to =
suggest other refinements.

On Directorates, the general idea is to point to Datatracker as the =
authoritative source of information. It looks like the EMO Dir page on =
datatracker needs some attention. I think the members can and should be =
listed (like here for IOT Dir =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/iotdir/about/) and the wiki page =
should be updated. The information does seem to be here:

https://trac.ietf.org/trac/edu/

but I would look to Karen and Mirjam to advise on the best way forward =
on this item.

I hope that helps,

-Greg


> On Jan 26, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Brian E Carpenter =
<brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> The new IETF home page is not, IMHO, a good front door to the =
educational
> meterial. You have to guess it's under About and then guess again that
> it's under Participate in the IETF. Even then you don't find a link to
> the Tao, which badly needs revision.
>=20
> Worse, the "links" page https://www.ietf.org/links/ points directly to
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/emodir/about/ which is pretty much =
useless
> as informational material. It doesn't even list the members of the =
directorate.
>=20
> The material at https://www6.ietf.org/edu/ seems to have gone missing.
>=20
> Regards
>   Brian Carpenter
>=20
>=20
> _______________________________________________
> Emo-dir mailing list
> Emo-dir@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir


--Apple-Mail=_B0F2ACDC-1652-4411-A10E-7E4859CAC75A
Content-Disposition: attachment;
	filename=smime.p7s
Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature;
	name=smime.p7s
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
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--Apple-Mail=_B0F2ACDC-1652-4411-A10E-7E4859CAC75A--


From nobody Tue Jan 30 14:59:32 2018
Return-Path: <odonoghue@isoc.org>
X-Original-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BAC1318AB for <emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 14:59:30 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.02
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=isoc.org
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E-0NQk7FftpO for <emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 14:59:27 -0800 (PST)
Received: from NAM03-CO1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-co1nam03on0065.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.40.65]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB5AB131897 for <emo-dir@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 14:59:26 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isoc.org; s=selector1;  h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=so1gU7X9Bq9Ou9TSZmzCUMDdvW93TUAHHcVwoGl1OMk=; b=YBIUHl2Cxu4adof1PbWs5JkNfC/o7sUrnIoQzQ79viqGwG3RWEjNZR6NnlovJDK54AR1IQ7upEBAxAK8ychIIbk22SN3HnfdExPU849fcHy2dLe9pan+N5vZ4uuD+v8RIGc+oEWd3JvKznJ5woeF57B12LgpCwMjKjxActleaVc=
Received: from BN6PR06MB3108.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.174.232.12) by BN6PR06MB2433.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.173.21.9) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P256) id 15.20.444.14; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 22:59:25 +0000
Received: from BN6PR06MB3108.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.174.232.12]) by BN6PR06MB3108.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.174.232.12]) with mapi id 15.20.0444.016; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 22:59:25 +0000
From: Karen O'Donoghue <odonoghue@isoc.org>
To: Greg Wood <wood@isoc.org>
CC: Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, "emo-dir@ietf.org" <emo-dir@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Emo-dir] New web site and EMO
Thread-Index: AQHTltrsq/9pdl1ohUqMPjqulDKosqOMyKkAgABFkYA=
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 22:59:25 +0000
Message-ID: <8AC166CB-EB2F-4480-9C5E-E0438F64AE22@isoc.org>
References: <02b087ef-fecf-d195-8adc-1de88c453ae8@gmail.com> <F68BFDB8-5CA3-4F23-BDFB-1C02279BDD39@isoc.org>
In-Reply-To: <F68BFDB8-5CA3-4F23-BDFB-1C02279BDD39@isoc.org>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=odonoghue@isoc.org; 
x-originating-ip: [213.126.19.138]
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BN6PR06MB2433; 7:+DyrM9OwZdC/zUr1lqSKaCBfD+D+mkZWPsq5QShk+tbk0EHv6W+LKrJelwJwTGvtAsCUJYQwMqSeYneCoeJkgqqfDPu4Tddm7nfOt5Eg6NjA6uHwI7tuSE3OZzfT/CVYuLlnjTDdSgwKIYB49OtRSzkMshj4loKwO8e9GEPvaVkTN33UxpECL3izq4f2/s/x++lbonvARa+GHWPphmiSlBgcZAhGTwctg+RcrDuaEoXAYoAgmsitZ2ekAKiUxhmg
x-ms-exchange-antispam-srfa-diagnostics: SSOS;
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 313f2d08-c405-4ed7-bc20-08d568351bcc
x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(7020095)(4652020)(5600026)(4604075)(3008032)(2017052603307)(7153060)(7193020); SRVR:BN6PR06MB2433; 
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: BN6PR06MB2433:
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <BN6PR06MB2433CF707832020799CC2308C2E40@BN6PR06MB2433.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(120809045254105)(85827821059158)(8454915177855); 
x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(6040501)(2401047)(5005006)(8121501046)(3002001)(10201501046)(3231101)(944501161)(93006095)(93001095)(6041288)(201703131423095)(201702281528075)(20161123555045)(201703061421075)(201703061406153)(20161123560045)(20161123562045)(20161123564045)(20161123558120)(6072148)(201708071742011); SRVR:BN6PR06MB2433; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BN6PR06MB2433; 
x-forefront-prvs: 0568F32D91
x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(346002)(39380400002)(366004)(376002)(39850400004)(396003)(51914003)(61684002)(189003)(199004)(26005)(105586002)(4326008)(76176011)(2950100002)(39060400002)(3280700002)(102836004)(6862004)(6436002)(2906002)(81156014)(81166006)(3846002)(99286004)(106356001)(566704002)(53936002)(14454004)(6506007)(305945005)(77096007)(478600001)(7736002)(59450400001)(8676002)(6116002)(15974865002)(53546011)(86362001)(3660700001)(83716003)(68736007)(229853002)(8936002)(66066001)(2900100001)(5660300001)(97736004)(6306002)(316002)(54906003)(966005)(6512007)(6636002)(33656002)(36756003)(25786009)(6486002)(82746002)(37006003)(6246003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:BN6PR06MB2433; H:BN6PR06MB3108.namprd06.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords;  MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; 
received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: isoc.org does not designate permitted sender hosts)
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: DiEkkq0Ihkgl2eZ99QxaANFQQP4G04O7my0v33+hpHVn3aX6+K6/bXZTu9RLqSdEW1V3oXvWgwr2OlB/FRS0Gg==
spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99
spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-ID: <E92D53710152BD4DBD6AAF5B762D87AA@namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginatorOrg: isoc.org
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 313f2d08-c405-4ed7-bc20-08d568351bcc
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 30 Jan 2018 22:59:25.1125 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 89f84dfb-7285-4810-bc4d-8b9b5794554f
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN6PR06MB2433
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emo-dir/ZdVZvc9QqADCGbJEmMsXy8vublk>
Subject: Re: [Emo-dir] New web site and EMO
X-BeenThere: emo-dir@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate" <emo-dir.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/emo-dir>, <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/emo-dir/>
List-Post: <mailto:emo-dir@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir>, <mailto:emo-dir-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 22:59:31 -0000
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=

