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On onsdag, apr 30, 2003, at 06:29 Europe/Stockholm, Patrik Fältström 
wrote:

>>> 8. In 5. IANA Considerations - it should be "ITU-T Recommendation 
>>> E.164" -
>>> not just ITU Rec... And also change ITU-T TSB to just "ITU TSB". In 
>>> general
>>> the text under 5 looks OK for the relationship to the ITU TSB 
>>> concerning
>>> delegations for <CC>.e164.arpa. Maybe the second sentence in the 
>>> first
>>> paragraph could look as: "Names within this zone are to be delegated 
>>> to
>>> assignes that has been assigned numbering resources according to the 
>>> ITU-T
>>> Recommendation E.164."
>>
>> Since I didn't write this section I'm going to differ to Patrik on 
>> these
>> wording changes. Patrik?
>
> The paragraph has been agreed upon between IAB and ITU-T and TSB and 
> RIPE NCC. I need to take this proposed change back. Interesting that 
> noone else "complained".

We have verified with the head of ITU-T what the correct terms would 
be. "TSB" is to be officially "ITU-T TSB" (not "ITU TSB" which Joakim 
proposes), and "E.164" should be "ITU-T Recommendation E.164".

Michael, can you make these changes please.

    paf
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Dear Colleagues,

Since there is nowhere in ITU-T Rec. E.164 a clear definition of the term E.164 Number I
suggest to clarify this in RFC2916bis to avoid any doubt by replacing the first paragraph
in Section 1 Introduction:

"Through transformation of E.164 [4] numbers into DNS names and the
use of existing DNS services like delegation through NS records and
NAPTR records, one can look up what services are available for a
specific domain name in a decentralized way with distributed
management of the different levels in the lookup process."

"Through transformation of International Public Telecommunication Numbers
in the international format [4], called within this document E.164 numbers, into
DNS names and ...."

best regards
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Hi Michael, folks,
   Re. Michael's answers to my earlier questions on 340x/2916bis of 29th April,
Many thanks. I'm happy with these BUT...
<Esoteric alert>
It seems to me that...(in the future)...
IF we do define another DB/RuleStore for use with E2U, AND
we want to be able to switch from one rule store to another within
a DDDS Delegation (i.e. between rounds of evaluation) THEN
we will need to modify 2916bis to include a non-terminal flag
that indicates that the evaluation will "leave" DNS at this round
and continue in another DB. A flag need not be present in "normal"
non-terminal NAPTRs, as the implication is to continue in the
current Rule Store, but at least we would need one to indicate
that a change in rule store is required.

Of course, an alternative would be to have a terminal that has
an enumservice indicating the "new" DB that should be queried.
This would be a new delegation, rather than a continuation of
the existing one.
</Esoteric>

This is not an objection, it's just a heads up that this DB/app
definition is not completely stand-alone, and may need a change
if we add a different DB.

Pretty obscure, but potentially interesting in the future.

all the best,
   Lawrence
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On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 10:12, Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP) wrote:
> Hi Michael, folks,
>    Re. Michael's answers to my earlier questions on 340x/2916bis of 29th April,
> Many thanks. I'm happy with these BUT...
> <Esoteric alert>
> It seems to me that...(in the future)...
> IF we do define another DB/RuleStore for use with E2U, AND
> we want to be able to switch from one rule store to another within
> a DDDS Delegation (i.e. between rounds of evaluation) THEN
> we will need to modify 2916bis to include a non-terminal flag
> that indicates that the evaluation will "leave" DNS at this round
> and continue in another DB. A flag need not be present in "normal"
> non-terminal NAPTRs, as the implication is to continue in the
> current Rule Store, but at least we would need one to indicate
> that a change in rule store is required.
> 
> Of course, an alternative would be to have a terminal that has
> an enumservice indicating the "new" DB that should be queried.
> This would be a new delegation, rather than a continuation of
> the existing one.
> </Esoteric>
> 
> This is not an objection, it's just a heads up that this DB/app
> definition is not completely stand-alone, and may need a change
> if we add a different DB.
> 
> Pretty obscure, but potentially interesting in the future.

You are correct. 2916bis is compatible with this feature but it doesn't
enable it directly. I.e. if you do this nothing has to change other than
adding a flag, which means a client that doesn't understand it would
simply and safely ignore it.

The latest (last?!) version of 2916bis just went to the repository so it
should appear here sometime tomorrow morning....

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I've submitted it to the repository but it'll be sometime tomorrow
before its available. In the mean time you can find a sneak preview
here:

http://www.rocketforge.org/draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt

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I would like to issue last call on this as soon as it is published.



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This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: The E.164 to URI DDDS Application (ENUM)
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	Filename	: draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt
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This document discusses the use of the Domain Name System (DNS) for
storage of E.164 numbers.  More specifically, how DNS can be used for
identifying available services connected to one E.164 number. It
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So once again ....

This is a formal request for final comments within the IETF ENUM WG
working group for one document. The document below is being proposed for
forwarding on to the IESG for consideration as Standards Track RFC.

This is a working group product, which has been thoroughly discussed since 
2001.

This document has undergone extensive review and revisions during the past 
few months and I believe that we now have working group consensus on its 
adequacy based on discussion on this list and at several working group 
meetings.

The purpose of a working group Last Call is in the style of "speak now or
forever hold your peace" in case there are fundamental objections which have
not gotten previous or adequate discussion, or minor errors which need
correction.

The 2 week Last Call will begin immediately and will end on May 28 at 12PM EST


         Title           : The E.164 to URI DDDS Application (ENUM)
         Author(s)       : P. Faltstrom, M. Mealling
         Filename        : draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt
         Pages           : 24
         Date            : 2003-5-13

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storage of E.164 numbers.  More specifically, how DNS can be used for
identifying available services connected to one E.164 number. It
specifically obsoletes RFC 2916 to bring it in line with the Dynamic
Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) Application specification found in
the document series specified in RFC 3401.  It is very important to
note that it is impossible to read and understand this document
without reading the documents discussed in RFC 3401.

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Hi Folks,
   ..and finally...
The text in 3.1.4 Publication Requirements still does not
reflect the last meeting decision that Experimental RFCs
are OK to publish. This IS reflected in the text of the last
sentence before section 3.1, so I think that the 3.1.4 first
sentence just got missed (i.e. it's a typo).

=> Please change 3.1.4. - for simplicity I'd suggest similar
text to the earlier reference (i.e. lose the end of the
sentence - "on the Standards Track or as a BCP".)

Apart from that (and a couple of minor typos), it's just right.
Good job.

all the best,
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This may have some applicability to the forthcoming ENUM registration 
documents we will need to take up shortly.

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>         Title           : URI scheme for GSM Short Message Service
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>This memo specifies a URI (Universal Resource Identifier) scheme
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Dear All

RFC 2916bis looks OK - most of my earlier comments on e-mail 23 of April
have been fixed - I just have some small problem with the text at the end of
clause 2 and first paragraph in 2.1.

It´s about the expresion "non-E.164 numbers" and "telephone numbers that are
not part of the E.164 namespace".

If I understood MMs comments on e-mail 29 of April I suggest to change the
text as follows:

- second last sentence in second paragraph in 2 - "Because of this, there is
the risk that collisions between E.164 number and non-E.164 numbers (i.e.
telephone numbers that not strictly are E.164 numbers because they are not
reachable from other countries but they are included in the national
numbering plan that is in accordance with the ITU-T Recommendation E.164)
can occur.

- 2.1 last sentence - change the end to ".... in order to distinguish it
from other telephone numbers that are not part of the E.164 namespace (the
E.164 namespace includes only telephone numbers (i.e. E.164 numbers) that
are in accordance with the rules of ITU-T Recommendation E.164).

Sincerely

Joakim Strålmark
Swedish Administration
Tel. +46 8 678 55 69
E-mail joakim.stralmark@pts.se

 

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As per the conclusions of earlier discussions in this WG, I don't think it
is incumbent upon us to define "E.164 numbers" or do anything other than
reference the ITU-T standard. I think the clarification suggested by Mr.
Stasny, to refer to "International Public Telecommunication Numbers in the
international format, called within this document E.164 numbers", removed
any ambiguity about how we used the term "E.164 numbers" (this appears as
the first sentence of section 1). The modifications proposed below seem to
be to similar effect, but Mr. Stasny's text, which has already been
incorporated, is in my opinion stronger and clearer.

Jon Peterson
NeuStar, Inc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joakim.Stralmark@pts.se [mailto:Joakim.Stralmark@pts.se]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:27 AM
> To: rich.shockey@neustar.biz; enum@ietf.org
> Cc: jon.peterson@neustar.biz; mankin@psg.com; paf@cisco.com;
> michael@neonym.net
> Subject: SV: [Enum] REMINDER - LAST CALL
> draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt
> 
> 
> Dear All
> 
> RFC 2916bis looks OK - most of my earlier comments on e-mail 
> 23 of April
> have been fixed - I just have some small problem with the 
> text at the end of
> clause 2 and first paragraph in 2.1.
> 
> It´s about the expresion "non-E.164 numbers" and "telephone 
> numbers that are
> not part of the E.164 namespace".
> 
> If I understood MMs comments on e-mail 29 of April I suggest 
> to change the
> text as follows:
> 
> - second last sentence in second paragraph in 2 - "Because of 
> this, there is
> the risk that collisions between E.164 number and non-E.164 
> numbers (i.e.
> telephone numbers that not strictly are E.164 numbers because 
> they are not
> reachable from other countries but they are included in the national
> numbering plan that is in accordance with the ITU-T 
> Recommendation E.164)
> can occur.
> 
> - 2.1 last sentence - change the end to ".... in order to 
> distinguish it
> from other telephone numbers that are not part of the E.164 
> namespace (the
> E.164 namespace includes only telephone numbers (i.e. E.164 
> numbers) that
> are in accordance with the rules of ITU-T Recommendation E.164).
> 
> Sincerely
> 
> Joakim Strålmark
> Swedish Administration
> Tel. +46 8 678 55 69
> E-mail joakim.stralmark@pts.se
> 
>  
> 
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
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> Skickat: den 23 maj 2003 19:18
> Till: enum@ietf.org
> Kopia: jon.peterson@neustar.biz; mankin@psg.com
> Ämne: [Enum] REMINDER - LAST CALL draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The purpose of a working group Last Call is in the style of 
> "speak now or
> forever hold your peace" in case there are fundamental 
> objections which have
> not gotten previous or adequate discussion, or minor errors which need
> correction.
> 
> The 2 week Last Call will end on May 28 at 12PM EST
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology 
> Initiatives NeuStar
> Inc.
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Ditto this

-----Original Message-----
From: Peterson, Jon [mailto:jon.peterson@neustar.biz]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:04 PM
To: 'Joakim.Stralmark@pts.se'; Shockey, Richard; enum@ietf.org
Cc: mankin@psg.com; paf@cisco.com; michael@neonym.net
Subject: RE: [Enum] REMINDER - LAST CALL
draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt



As per the conclusions of earlier discussions in this WG, I don't think =
it
is incumbent upon us to define "E.164 numbers" or do anything other =
than
reference the ITU-T standard. I think the clarification suggested by =
Mr.
Stasny, to refer to "International Public Telecommunication Numbers in =
the
international format, called within this document E.164 numbers", =
removed
any ambiguity about how we used the term "E.164 numbers" (this appears =
as
the first sentence of section 1). The modifications proposed below seem =
to
be to similar effect, but Mr. Stasny's text, which has already been
incorporated, is in my opinion stronger and clearer.

Jon Peterson
NeuStar, Inc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joakim.Stralmark@pts.se [mailto:Joakim.Stralmark@pts.se]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:27 AM
> To: rich.shockey@neustar.biz; enum@ietf.org
> Cc: jon.peterson@neustar.biz; mankin@psg.com; paf@cisco.com;
> michael@neonym.net
> Subject: SV: [Enum] REMINDER - LAST CALL
> draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt
>=20
>=20
> Dear All
>=20
> RFC 2916bis looks OK - most of my earlier comments on e-mail=20
> 23 of April
> have been fixed - I just have some small problem with the=20
> text at the end of
> clause 2 and first paragraph in 2.1.
>=20
> It=B4s about the expresion "non-E.164 numbers" and "telephone=20
> numbers that are
> not part of the E.164 namespace".
>=20
> If I understood MMs comments on e-mail 29 of April I suggest=20
> to change the
> text as follows:
>=20
> - second last sentence in second paragraph in 2 - "Because of=20
> this, there is
> the risk that collisions between E.164 number and non-E.164=20
> numbers (i.e.
> telephone numbers that not strictly are E.164 numbers because=20
> they are not
> reachable from other countries but they are included in the national
> numbering plan that is in accordance with the ITU-T=20
> Recommendation E.164)
> can occur.
>=20
> - 2.1 last sentence - change the end to ".... in order to=20
> distinguish it
> from other telephone numbers that are not part of the E.164=20
> namespace (the
> E.164 namespace includes only telephone numbers (i.e. E.164=20
> numbers) that
> are in accordance with the rules of ITU-T Recommendation E.164).
>=20
> Sincerely
>=20
> Joakim Str=E5lmark
> Swedish Administration
> Tel. +46 8 678 55 69
> E-mail joakim.stralmark@pts.se
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> =20
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> Skickat: den 23 maj 2003 19:18
> Till: enum@ietf.org
> Kopia: jon.peterson@neustar.biz; mankin@psg.com
> =C4mne: [Enum] REMINDER - LAST CALL draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt
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>=20
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> forever hold your peace" in case there are fundamental=20
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need
> correction.
>=20
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> Inc.
> 46000 Center Oak Plaza  -   Sterling, VA  20166
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ditto this</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Peterson, Jon [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:jon.peterson@neustar.biz">mailto:jon.peterson@neustar.biz=
</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:04 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: 'Joakim.Stralmark@pts.se'; Shockey, Richard; =
enum@ietf.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: mankin@psg.com; paf@cisco.com; =
michael@neonym.net</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: [Enum] REMINDER - LAST CALL</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>As per the conclusions of earlier discussions in this =
WG, I don't think it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>is incumbent upon us to define &quot;E.164 =
numbers&quot; or do anything other than</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>reference the ITU-T standard. I think the =
clarification suggested by Mr.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Stasny, to refer to &quot;International Public =
Telecommunication Numbers in the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>international format, called within this document =
E.164 numbers&quot;, removed</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>any ambiguity about how we used the term &quot;E.164 =
numbers&quot; (this appears as</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the first sentence of section 1). The modifications =
proposed below seem to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>be to similar effect, but Mr. Stasny's text, which =
has already been</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>incorporated, is in my opinion stronger and =
clearer.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Jon Peterson</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>NeuStar, Inc.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Joakim.Stralmark@pts.se [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Joakim.Stralmark@pts.se">mailto:Joakim.Stralmark@pts.se</=
A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:27 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: rich.shockey@neustar.biz; =
enum@ietf.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cc: jon.peterson@neustar.biz; mankin@psg.com; =
paf@cisco.com;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; michael@neonym.net</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: SV: [Enum] REMINDER - LAST CALL</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Dear All</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; RFC 2916bis looks OK - most of my earlier =
comments on e-mail </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 23 of April</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; have been fixed - I just have some small =
problem with the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; text at the end of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; clause 2 and first paragraph in 2.1.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; It=B4s about the expresion &quot;non-E.164 =
numbers&quot; and &quot;telephone </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; numbers that are</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; not part of the E.164 namespace&quot;.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; If I understood MMs comments on e-mail 29 of =
April I suggest </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; to change the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; text as follows:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; - second last sentence in second paragraph in 2 =
- &quot;Because of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; this, there is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; the risk that collisions between E.164 number =
and non-E.164 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; numbers (i.e.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; telephone numbers that not strictly are E.164 =
numbers because </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; they are not</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; reachable from other countries but they are =
included in the national</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; numbering plan that is in accordance with the =
ITU-T </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Recommendation E.164)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; can occur.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; - 2.1 last sentence - change the end to =
&quot;.... in order to </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; distinguish it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; from other telephone numbers that are not part =
of the E.164 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; namespace (the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; E.164 namespace includes only telephone numbers =
(i.e. E.164 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; numbers) that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; are in accordance with the rules of ITU-T =
Recommendation E.164).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sincerely</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Joakim Str=E5lmark</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Swedish Administration</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Tel. +46 8 678 55 69</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; E-mail joakim.stralmark@pts.se</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Fr=E5n: Richard Shockey [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:rich.shockey@neustar.biz">mailto:rich.shockey@neustar.biz=
</A>] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Skickat: den 23 maj 2003 19:18</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Till: enum@ietf.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Kopia: jon.peterson@neustar.biz; =
mankin@psg.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; =C4mne: [Enum] REMINDER - LAST CALL =
draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; The purpose of a working group Last Call is in =
the style of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &quot;speak now or</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; forever hold your peace&quot; in case there are =
fundamental </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; objections which have</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; not gotten previous or adequate discussion, or =
minor errors which need</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; correction.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; The 2 week Last Call will end on May 28 at 12PM =
EST</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic =
Technology </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Initiatives NeuStar</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Inc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 46000 Center Oak Plaza&nbsp; -&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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The following document has undergone extensive review and revisions over 
the last few months and Work Group Last Call having been concluded, the 
ENUM WG requests IESG review and publication of the following document.

         Title           : The E.164 to URI DDDS Application (ENUM)
         Author(s)       : P. Faltstrom, M. Mealling
         Filename        : draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt
         Pages           : 24
         Date            : 2003-5-13

This document discusses the use of the Domain Name System (DNS) for
storage of E.164 numbers.  More specifically, how DNS can be used for
identifying available services connected to one E.164 number. It
specifically obsoletes RFC 2916 to bring it in line with the Dynamic
Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) Application specification found in
the document series specified in RFC 3401.  It is very important to
note that it is impossible to read and understand this document
without reading the documents discussed in RFC 3401.

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt



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With the conclusion of last call on 2916bis we need to review our next 
steps and I'd like to entertain agenda items for Vienna etc.

The logical place to start is to advance the enum service field 
registration documents SIP AOR, H323 if there are no more contingent 
dependencies, and the  other non contentious registration documents we 
discussed in San Francisco.




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FYI

NOTE: There are two (2) Internet-Draft Cutoff dates

June 23rd: Cutoff for Initial Submissions (new documents)

All initial submissions(-00) must be submitted by Monday, June 23rd,
at 09:00 ET.  Initial submissions received after this time will NOT be
made available in the Internet-Drafts directory, and will have to be
resubmitted.


As before, all initial submissions (-00.txt) with a filename beginning
with a draft-ietf MUST be approved by the appropriate WG Chair prior to
processing and announcing. WG Chair approval must be received by
Monday, June 16th.

  Please do NOT wait until the last minute to submit.

Be advised: NO placeholders. Updates to initial submissions received
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June 30st: FINAL Internet-Draft Cutoff

All revised Internet-Draft submissions must be submitted by Monday,
June 30st, 2003 at 09:00 ET.  Internet-Drafts received after this
time will NOT be announced NOR made available in the Internet-Drafts
Directories.

We will begin accepting Internet-Draft submissions the week of the
meeting, though announcements will NOT be sent until the IETF meeting
is over.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Please do not hesitate
to contact us if you have any questions or concenrs.

FYI: These and other significant dates can be found at
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