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With the impending IESG last call for 2916bis the next logical step is to 
bring forward as many of the enumservice registration documents as we have 
consensus for ....

Do we anticipate new versions of those shortly ..? SIP - H.323  the Compendium?

I'm still looking for Agenda items..

Should we anticipate any new drafts ...  its only 1 month away ..


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The IESG has received a request from the Telephone Number Mapping 
Working Group to consider The E.164 to URI DDDS Application (ENUM) 
<draft-ietf-enum-rfc2916bis-06.txt> as a Proposed Standard.  

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action.  Please send any comments to the 
iesg@ietf.org or ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2003-6-23.

Files can be obtained via 
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What about going into last call _now_ on the existing SIP and H.323 
registration documents...assuming there are not too many contingent 
dependencies on Orit's draft.

They strike me as non controversial, well understood items.



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This is a formal request for final comments within the IETF ENUM WG
working group for one document. The document below is being proposed for
forwarding on to the IESG for consideration as Standards Track RFC.

This is a working group product, which has been discussed during 2002-2003.

The purpose of a working group Last Call is in the style of "speak now or
forever hold your peace" in case there are fundamental objections which have
not gotten previous or adequate discussion, or minor errors which need
correction.

The 2 week Last Call will begin immediately and will end on June 27 at 12PM EST


         Title           : enumservice registration for SIP Addresses-of-Record
         Author(s)       : J. Peterson
         Filename        : draft-ietf-enum-sip-00.txt
         Pages           : 9
         Date            : 2003-2-26

This document registers an ENUM service for SIP (the Session
Initiation Protocol), pursuant to the guidelines in RFC2916bis.
Specifically, this document focuses on provisioning SIP addresses-of-
record in ENUM.

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-sip-00.txt




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A. I would anticipate that when we see the next version of the H.323 
enumservice registration draft we can take that to Last Call immediately.

B. There are new versions of the enum-msg and wnum-webft drafts in the ID 
hopper ..we can go to Last Call on those as soon as they are issued.

C. I should have a new version of the privacy and security draft available 
for discussion in Vienna.

I'm still looking for agenda items for discussion etc ..if new documents 
are being prepared for Vienna the chairs would like to know about them as 
soon as possible.


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This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Registration for enumservices web and ft
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	Date		: 2003-6-16
	
This document registers a group of 'enumservices' [2] to be used to
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Specifically, the 'enumservices' registered with this document are
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This is a formal request for final comments within the IETF ENUM WG
working group for two documents. The documents listed below are being 
proposed for forwarding on to the IESG for consideration as Standards Track 
RFC.

These documents are working group products, which have been discussed 
during 2002-2003.

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         Title           : Registration for enumservices of group messages
         Author(s)       : R. Brandner et al.
         Filename        : draft-ietf-enum-msg-00.txt
         Pages           : 17
         Date            : 2003-6-16

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indicate that the associated resources are capable of receiving
discrete messages.
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'email', 'fax', 'sms', 'ems' and 'mms' using the URI schemes
'mailto:' and 'tel:'.

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http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-msg-00.txt

#################

Title           : Registration for enumservices web and ft
         Author(s)       : R. Brandner et al.
         Filename        : draft-ietf-enum-webft-00.txt
         Pages           : 13
         Date            : 2003-6-16

This document registers a group of 'enumservices' [2] to be used to
indicate that the associated resources are primarily sources for
information.
Specifically, the 'enumservices' registered with this document are
'web' and 'ft' using the URI schemes 'http:', 'https:' and 'ftp:'.

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>         Filename        : draft-ietf-vpim-routing-05.txt
>         Pages           : 10
>         Date            : 2003-6-19
>
>Voice messaging is traditionally addressed using telephone number
>addressing. This document describes two techniques for routing voice
>messages based on a telephone number.  The VPIM Directory service
>provides a directory mechanism to lookup a VPIM email address with a
>telephone number and confirm that the address is both valid and the
>associated with the intended recipient.  However this service will
>take time become widely deployed in the nearest term.  This document
>also describes a more limited send-and-pray service useful simply to
>route and deliver messages using only the ENUM telephone number
>resolution service and the existing DNS mail routing facilies.
>Please send comments on this document to the VPIM working group
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At 02:18 PM 6/20/2003 -0400, you wrote:


>FYI...

Greg...

I think you actually will need a IANA considerations section in the 
document to refer to the registration of VPIM:mailto once 2916bis is approved.

as for the syntax...

4.1 Specification of Service "E2U+VPIM:Mailto:"

         * Service Name: E.164 to VPIM MailTo: URL

Service name IMHO should be simply VPIM

         * URI Type: "Mailto:"

         * SubTyoe: VPIM

subtype is mailto

         * Functional Specification: See section 4.2 through 4.4

         * Intended Usage: COMMON

         * Author: Greg Vaudreuil (gregv@ieee.org)

         * Error Conditions:
           o E.164 number not in the numbering plan
           o E.164 number in the numbering plan, but no URLs exist for
                 that number
           o E2U+VPIM:Mailto Service unavailable








>>To: IETF-Announce: ;
>>Cc: vpim@lists.neystadt.org
>>From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org
>>Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org
>>Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-vpim-routing-05.txt
>>Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 07:35:56 -0400
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>>Group of the IETF.
>>
>>         Title           : Voice Message Routing Service
>>         Author(s)       : G. Vaudreuil
>>         Filename        : draft-ietf-vpim-routing-05.txt
>>         Pages           : 10
>>         Date            : 2003-6-19
>>
>>Voice messaging is traditionally addressed using telephone number
>>addressing. This document describes two techniques for routing voice
>>messages based on a telephone number.  The VPIM Directory service
>>provides a directory mechanism to lookup a VPIM email address with a
>>telephone number and confirm that the address is both valid and the
>>associated with the intended recipient.  However this service will
>>take time become widely deployed in the nearest term.  This document
>>also describes a more limited send-and-pray service useful simply to
>>route and deliver messages using only the ENUM telephone number
>>resolution service and the existing DNS mail routing facilies.
>>Please send comments on this document to the VPIM working group
>>mailing list <vpim@lists.neystadt.org>
>>
>>A URL for this Internet-Draft 
>>is:http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-vpim-routing-05.txt
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Nice to see so many trials on-going but does anyone have any links to
any applications, products etc that actually uses ENUM?

ps: I just got our 5.6.e164.arpa delegation for Singapore.

-James Seng

Richard Shockey wrote:
> 
> This is the list I have of more or less "official" ENUM or ENUM trial 
> related Web Sites etc.
> 
> If anyone has others pass them along.
> 
> The ENUM Forum in the United States
> 
> http://www.enum-forum.org/
> 
> ENUM in Austria
> 
> http://www.rtr.at/web.nsf/englisch/Telekommunikation~Nummerierung~ENUM?OpenDocument 
> 
> 
> ENUM in the UK
> 
> http://www.dti.gov.uk/cii/regulatory/enum/egp_report.shtml
> 
> http://www.dti.gov.uk/cii/regulatory/enum/ukeg20021108.ppt
> 
> ENUM in France
> 
> http://www.numerobis.prd.fr/welcome.shtml
> 
> ENUM in Australia
> 
> http://www.aca.gov.au/committee/nsg2/enum.htm
> 
> ENUM in The Netherlands
> 
> http://www.enuminnederland.nl
> 
> ENUM in China
> 
> http://www.enum.cn/index-en.html
> 
> ENUM in Germany
> 
> http://www.denic.de/enum/index.html
> 
> ENUM in Switzerland
> 
> http://www.ofcom.ch/en/telekommunikation/nummerierung/enum/
> 
> ENUM in Korea
> 
> http://www.enum.or.kr/
> 
> In addition considerable information on the current status of ENUM can 
> be found at the ITU-T's web site
> 
> http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/inr/enum/index.html
> 
> and also at RIPE NCC's web site
> 
> http://www.ripe.net/enum/
> 
> Some information on trials is at
> 
> http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/inr/enum/trials.html
> 
> This seems to be a list of current delegations in e164.arpa  I cant 
> testify to its accuracy and there is no indication of when the page was 
> updated.
> 
> http://www.enum.info/ENUM%20Matrix.htm
> 
> 
> 
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As of right now we will have at least two items..

1. Review of the Privacy & Security draft ..

2. Discussion of the Applicability of the CRISP work to the global ENUM 
system.  CRISP as many of you may know is the WG on looking at a 
replacement for WHOIS.

http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/crisp-charter.html

3. I assuming we should review Goals and Milestones since remarkably we are 
on track for completing several items.

http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/enum-charter.html

I'm still open to suggestions...



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Does any one from the EU want to provide updates on their ENUM trials?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Shockey [mailto:rich.shockey@neustar.biz]
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:29 PM
> To: enum@ietf.org
> Subject: [Enum] Agenda Items for Vienna..??
> 
> 
> 
> As of right now we will have at least two items..
> 
> 1. Review of the Privacy & Security draft ..
> 
> 2. Discussion of the Applicability of the CRISP work to the 
> global ENUM 
> system.  CRISP as many of you may know is the WG on looking at a 
> replacement for WHOIS.
> 
> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/crisp-charter.html
> 
> 3. I assuming we should review Goals and Milestones since 
> remarkably we are 
> on track for completing several items.
> 
> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/enum-charter.html
> 
> I'm still open to suggestions...
> 
> 
> 
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> 46000 Center Oak Plaza  -   Sterling, VA  20166
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>>>>> "Kevin" == McCandless, Kevin <KMcCandless@verisign.com> writes:

    Kevin> Does any one from the EU want to provide updates on their
    Kevin> ENUM trials?

I could do this for the UK trial, though there's not a lot to say.

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Jim Reid [mailto:Jim.Reid@nominum.com] writes:
=20
> >>>>> "Kevin" =3D=3D McCandless, Kevin <KMcCandless@verisign.com> =
writes:
>=20
>     Kevin> Does any one from the EU want to provide updates on their
>     Kevin> ENUM trials?
>=20
> I could do this for the UK trial, though there's not a lot to say.
>=20

I could do this for the Austrian Trial, provided there is interest in
IETF in cunning code.
(there is a bit mor to say ;-)

Regardless of a presentation in the ENUM WG, Michael Haberler and myself
may provide a demo off IETF premises to interested folks if wanted,
showing
the interworking of different ITADs with ENUM, using ENUM-enabled SER
and=20
Asterisk. So please contact me or Michael off-list.

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Sorry for eventually misusing the list, but I already got some responses
and others may come.

> Regardless of a presentation in the ENUM WG, Michael Haberler and=20
> myself may provide a demo off IETF premises to interested folks if=20
> wanted, showing the interworking of different ITADs with ENUM, using=20
> ENUM-enabled SER and
> Asterisk.=20

We will provide the demo at the nic.at premises (location to be
announced, meeting
point at the IETF, registration desk, 1515).
We propose Thursday, July 17th after the first afternoon session (ending
at 1500),
so the demo may start at approx 1530 to 1600. Depending on interest, we
may
need appox one hour (open end), so people interested in the IESG Plenary
have enough
time to go back. The others are invited to join us at a "Heurigen" for
further discussions.

If there are serious objections against Thursday afternoon, we could
shift
this to Wednesday afternoon same schedule.

For further details please contact me at the IETF, email or phone.

best regards
Richard

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At 09:07 AM 6/24/2003 +0200, Stastny Richard wrote:


>Jim Reid [mailto:Jim.Reid@nominum.com] writes:
>
> > >>>>> "Kevin" == McCandless, Kevin <KMcCandless@verisign.com> writes:
> >
> >     Kevin> Does any one from the EU want to provide updates on their
> >     Kevin> ENUM trials?
> >
> > I could do this for the UK trial, though there's not a lot to say.
> >
>
>I could do this for the Austrian Trial, provided there is interest in
>IETF in cunning code.
>(there is a bit mor to say ;-)


I'm certainly willing to be open minded on this ...we have 2 hours and I 
think there is interest in this.

Without objection I'll block some time maybe 20 minutes or so for short 
presentations on national ENUM trials. I'm particularly interested in 
discussions involving provisioning etc.

And we can conclude with a general Next Steps discussion ...Jim..I believe 
you were interested in reviewing some options....






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>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Shockey <rich.shockey@neustar.biz> writes:

    Richard> Without objection I'll block some time maybe 20 minutes
    Richard> or so for short presentations on national ENUM
    Richard> trials. I'm particularly interested in discussions
    Richard> involving provisioning etc.

OK, put me down for a few minutes on the UK trial.

    Richard> And we can conclude with a general Next Steps discussion
    Richard> ...Jim..I believe you were interested in reviewing some
    Richard> options....

Yeah. I've got a few vague strawman proposals for further areas the WG
could look at. These could be shot down in Vienna. :-)

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Richard Shockey wrote:

> Without objection I'll block some time maybe 20 minutes or so=20
> for short=20
> presentations on national ENUM trials. I'm particularly interested in=20
> discussions involving provisioning etc.

Ok, so 10 minutes for the  Austrian trial ?

> And we can conclude with a general Next Steps discussion=20
> ...Jim..I believe=20
> you were interested in reviewing some options....
>=20

I will talk with Lawrence and Rudi  if we have some input here ..
=20
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At 06:48 PM 6/24/2003 +0200, you wrote:

>Richard Shockey wrote:
>
> > Without objection I'll block some time maybe 20 minutes or so
> > for short
> > presentations on national ENUM trials. I'm particularly interested in
> > discussions involving provisioning etc.
>
>Ok, so 10 minutes for the  Austrian trial ?
>
> > And we can conclude with a general Next Steps discussion
> > ...Jim..I believe
> > you were interested in reviewing some options....
> >
>
>I will talk with Lawrence and Rudi  if we have some input here ..

great !

>
>Richard
>
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http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/06/24/HNdnsbirthday_1.html



 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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http://Toys.R.US ?

http://www.icann.org/tlds/new-stld-rfp/new-stld-rfp-24jun03.htm
"ICANN has no authority or ability to require acceptance of new TLD namestrings although ICANN does prominently publicize
ICANN-authorized TLD strings on its website. As such, successful applicants may find themselves expending considerable efforts
post-implementation in persuading providers of the need to accept their new TLD namestring."
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> http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/06/24/HNdnsbirthday_1.html
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another take....

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31392.html

Bob
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> -----Original Message-----
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Will the presentations on the various trials be posted on the web, or otherwise available digitally?

Tim Ruiz
Go Daddy Software
(an interested observer)

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [Enum] Agenda Items for Vienna??
> From: "Stastny Richard" <Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at>
> Date: Tue, June 24, 2003 9:48 am
> To: "Richard Shockey" <rich.shockey@neustar.biz>, "Jim Reid"
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> Cc: enum@ietf.org
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> Richard Shockey wrote:
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> > Without objection I'll block some time maybe 20 minutes or so 
> > for short 
> > presentations on national ENUM trials. I'm particularly interested in
> 
> > discussions involving provisioning etc.
> 
> Ok, so 10 minutes for the  Austrian trial ?
> 
> > And we can conclude with a general Next Steps discussion 
> > ...Jim..I believe 
> > you were interested in reviewing some options....
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> I will talk with Lawrence and Rudi  if we have some input here ..
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At 12:55 AM 6/25/2003 -0400, Seung Jai Yi wrote:

>Dear,
>This is KRNIC in Korea.
>We(KRNIC) are implementing ENUM trial system this year.
>We are almost finished 1st version of it.(I think it's the first in Asia.)
>And I made presentation of "KRNIC ENUM Trial" at GSC(Global Standards
>Collaboration)-8
>meeting which held on April.
>
>Our ENUM trial provides 4 methods of ENUM client program
>and was consisted of Telephony system(using SIP), DNS tier 1,2 and
>Registration system(using Dynamic Update).
>
>We'll be open ENUM homepage(including above information)  next month.
>And, we'll begin ENUM trial service for national public this year.
>
>Therefore, if possible, give me a few minutes(about 5-10 minutes) to make
>presentation about
>"Korean ENUM trial", please.


We'd be most delighted to hear of your progress...  I have you down in the 
Agenda for 10 Min or so along with reviews of progress in national trials 
in the UK  from Jim Reid and Austria from Richard Stastny


>Thanks.

No thank you...


>Seung-Jai, Yi.


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This would be an excellent draft to discuss at the ENUM meeting.  

> -----Original Message-----
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At 08:16 AM 6/26/2003 -0700, McCandless, Kevin wrote:

>This would be an excellent draft to discuss at the ENUM meeting.


It will be ..



> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Shockey [mailto:richard@shockey.us]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:34 AM
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> > Subject: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-newton-iris-ereg-00.txt
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> > >         Title           : IRIS - An ENUM Registry (ereg)
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> > >                           Registry Information Service
> > >         Author(s)       : A. Newton
> > >         Filename        : draft-newton-iris-ereg-00.txt
> > >         Pages           : 34
> > >         Date            : 2003-6-24
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Reid [mailto:Jim.Reid@nominum.com]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:46 AM
> To: Stastny Richard
> Subject: Re: AW: [Enum] Agenda Items for Vienna??=20
>=20
>=20
> Richard could you *please* use plain text on this mailing=20
> list? Invalid base-64 encoded UTF-8 is not appreciated.
>=20
Sorry, I sent it from home and Microsoft is obviously using invalid =
encoding.
There is no way to force Outlook Web Access to plain text (as far as I =
know).

See repeated message below:

--------

Hi Tim,
=20
the presentations given recently on the Austrian Trial are available at =
http://enum.nic.at/documents/index.html
and so will the presentation given at the IETF.
=20
See also on other trials e.g on the ITU Website =
http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/inr/enum/trials.html
=20
regards
Richard
=20

	-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----=20
	Von: Tim Ruiz [mailto:tim@godaddy.com]=20
	Gesendet: Di 24.06.2003 19:57=20
	An: Stastny Richard=20
	Cc: enum@ietf.org; rich.shockey@neustar.biz; Jim.Reid@nominum.com; =
KMcCandless@verisign.com=20
	Betreff: RE: [Enum] Agenda Items for Vienna??
=09
=09


	Will the presentations on the various trials be posted on the web, or =
otherwise available digitally?
=09
	Tim Ruiz
	Go Daddy Software
	(an interested observer)
=09
	> -------- Original Message --------
	> Subject: RE: [Enum] Agenda Items for Vienna??
	> From: "Stastny Richard" <Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at>
	> Date: Tue, June 24, 2003 9:48 am
	> To: "Richard Shockey" <rich.shockey@neustar.biz>, "Jim Reid"
	> <Jim.Reid@nominum.com>, "McCandless, Kevin" =
<KMcCandless@verisign.com>
	> Cc: enum@ietf.org
	>
	> Richard Shockey wrote:
	>
	> > Without objection I'll block some time maybe 20 minutes or so
	> > for short
	> > presentations on national ENUM trials. I'm particularly interested =
in
	>
	> > discussions involving provisioning etc.
	>
	> Ok, so 10 minutes for the  Austrian trial ?
	>
	> > And we can conclude with a general Next Steps discussion
	> > ...Jim..I believe
	> > you were interested in reviewing some options....
	> >
	>
	> I will talk with Lawrence and Rudi  if we have some input here ..
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>Cc: Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it, ietf-fax@imc.org
>Subject: [IETF-FAX] Request for IESG Consideration for IFAX Service in ENUM
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>I am Hiroshi Tamura, a co-chair of IETF FAX WG.
>Thanks for your usual support for our WG.
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>The Internet Fax Working Group requests IESG approval for publication of
>the following I-D, with the specified status.
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>...............
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>IFAX service of ENUM
><draft-ietf-fax-faxservice-enum-01.txt>
>
>Status: Proposed Standard
>
>Summary:
>      This document describes the functional specification
>      and the definition of the ENUM NAPTR record, for IFax
>      service. IFax is "Facsimile using Internet Mail".  For
>      this use, the DNS returns the email address of the
>      referenced IFax system. This mechanism allows email-based
>      fax communication to use telephone numbers, rather than
>      requiring that the sender already know the recipient
>      email address.
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>At San Francisco's meeting our WG agreed to the content.
>The I-D was submitted for IETF-FAX WG Last Call on April 11.
>During WG LC period, there were no comments.
>It sucessfully finished on April 30.
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>...............
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>Please consider and process our request.
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>Best Regards,
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>Hiroshi Tamura, co-chair of IETF-FAX WG


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To:      paf@cisco.com, rich.shockey@neustar.biz, michael@neonym.net
cc:      jon.peterson@neustar.biz, mankin@psg.com, enum@ietf.org,
	 hardie@qualcomm.com

The IESG reviewed rfc2916bis on Thursday.  The review is not complete.
There will be further discussion on July 10, so there may be more comments
to come.  

There are Discuss comments about language and about the IANA
Considerations from Ted Hardie.  I suggest addressing all but one, that on
section 2.5, where I know the language is finely tuned.  

If July 10 does not produce more complex comments than these, the draft 
will not need a rev'd i-d, but can be fixed with RFC Editor notes, which
are diffs submitted with the approval.

Allison

---------

Ted Hardie's Discuss comments:

I went back forth as to whether these were serious nits
or a mild discuss.  The tired lady mentioned in the nit
related to section 2.1 was the deciding factor.  In other
words, I think these should be fixed, but pushback is
welcome.


In the introduction:

    "like delegation through NS records and NAPTR records, one can look up
    what services are available for a specific domain name"

Would it not make more sense to say, "what services are associated with a
specific E.164 number"?  This is not general to all domain names.


For Section 1.2, the language seems less than clear.  How about:

     This document describes the operation of these mechanisms in the context
     of numbers allocated according to the ITU-T recommendation E.164.  The
     same mechanisms might be used for private dialing plans.  If the
     mechanisms are re-used, the suffix used for the private dialing plan
     MUST NOT be e164.arpa, to avoid conflict with this specification.
     Parties to the private dialing plan will need to know the the suffix
     used by their private dialing plan for correct operation of these
     mechanisms.  Further, the application unique string used SHOULD be
     the full number as specified, but without the leading '+'

In Section 2.1,  the draft says:


    For example, the E.164 number could start out as "+1-770-923-9595".
    To ensure that no syntactic sugar is allowed into the AUS, all
    non-digits except for "+" are removed, yielding "+17709239595".

I'm not sure "syntactic sugar" is clear.  Is the AUS a gas tank? :)
Frankly, I'd suggest deleting the second paragraph, as I don't think it adds
anything, but if it's kept, I'd suggest updating it to "the E.164 number could
be represented to a user as".  I'd also suggest using a known-to-be invalid
number.  A tired lady answer this number when I called it,
and she didn't know anything about this draft.

In section 2.4.2.1, the draft says:

    The mapping, if any, have
    to be made explicit in the specification for the Enumservice itself.
    A registration of a specific Type also have to specify the Subtypes
    allowed.

I think the grammar is off there.  how about:  "the mapping, if any, 
must be made explicit"?

For the IANA consideration, the work requested by the first two paragraphs
is done.  I think that it would be better to change it to note that 
the obsoleted RFC requested these, and to give a pointer to the current 
IAB/ITU-T agreement.

--------


P.S.  Here is what Ted said about Section 2.5 but I believe we should leave
it as is:

I'm concerned that section 2.5  might cause as much confusion as it
prevents.  How about replacing the whole thing with "The ENUM algorithm
always returns a single rule.  Specific applications may have
application-specific knowledge or facilities that allow them to
present multiple results or speed selection, but these should
never change the operation of the algorithm."





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	Pages		: 4
	Date		: 2003-6-27
	
The H.323 specification [2] defines a means for building multimedia 
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FYI


A useful document to keep in mind considering our ongoing discussions of 
DNSSEC.

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>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
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>         Title           : Threat Analysis Of The Domain Name System
>         Author(s)       : D. Atkins, R. Austein
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-dnsext-dns-threats-03.txt
>         Pages           : 15
>         Date            : 2003-6-27
>
>Although the DNS Security Extensions (DNSSEC) have been under
>development for most of the last decade, the IETF has never written
>down the specific set of threats against which DNSSEC is designed to
>protect.  Among other drawbacks, this cart-before-the-horse situation
>has made it difficult to determine whether DNSSEC meets its design
>goals, since its design goals are not well specified.  This note
>attempts to document some of the known threats to the DNS, and, in
>doing so, attempts to measure to what extent (if any) DNSSEC is a
>useful tool in defending against these threats.
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So, is DNSSEC within the scope of our discussions or not.  During the last IETF meeting I thought I heard that DNSSEC is out of scope.  My opinion is that DNSSEC is relevant when security issues are discussed for ENUM.

Kevin...

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> FYI
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> A useful document to keep in mind considering our ongoing 
> discussions of 
> DNSSEC.
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> >This draft is a work item of the DNS Extensions Working 
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> >
> >         Title           : Threat Analysis Of The Domain Name System
> >         Author(s)       : D. Atkins, R. Austein
> >         Filename        : draft-ietf-dnsext-dns-threats-03.txt
> >         Pages           : 15
> >         Date            : 2003-6-27
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> >Although the DNS Security Extensions (DNSSEC) have been under
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> >down the specific set of threats against which DNSSEC is designed to
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> >has made it difficult to determine whether DNSSEC meets its design
> >goals, since its design goals are not well specified.  This note
> >attempts to document some of the known threats to the DNS, and, in
> >doing so, attempts to measure to what extent (if any) DNSSEC is a
> >useful tool in defending against these threats.
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At 10:23 AM 6/30/2003 -0400, McCandless, Kevin wrote:

>So, is DNSSEC within the scope of our discussions or not.  During the last
>IETF meeting I thought I heard that DNSSEC is out of scope.

Correct.. working on DNSSEC is not within our scope..

>  My opinion is
>that DNSSEC is relevant when security issues are discussed for ENUM.

You are also correct.. but this is clearly a document we need to keep in 
mind when those discussions occur from time to time.


>Kevin...
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>>>>> "Kevin" == McCandless, Kevin <KMcCandless@verisign.com> writes:

    Kevin> So, is DNSSEC within the scope of our discussions or not.
    Kevin> During the last IETF meeting I thought I heard that DNSSEC
    Kevin> is out of scope.  My opinion is that DNSSEC is relevant
    Kevin> when security issues are discussed for ENUM.  

This subject is one of the things I intend to raise in the Future
Directions slot at the WG in Vienna. DNSSEC should be out of scope for
this WG. How the protocol works is not our concern. However how DNSSEC
gets applied to ENUM -- stuff like signing policies, key management,
dealing with signed and unsigned NAPTR RRsets, etc -- probably should
be in the scope of the WG IMO. Let's see how others feel either on
this list or at the Vienna meeting.

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Hi all,

I have a minor problem here:

Up to now ENUM WG was not dealing with administrative and management
issues
in ENUM, this was left to other bodies like ITU-T, ETSI and the national
ENUM fora and platforms.

If we now start dealing with:

> stuff like signing policies, key management, dealing with signed=20
> and unsigned NAPTR RRsets, etc -- probably should be in the=20
> scope of the WG IMO.

we are jumping head-on in the middle of these issues.

I have no problem with dealing with admin and management issues
in ENUM WG, but maybe we are getting a bit ahead of ourselves then
and have to do the basics first.

best regards
Richard


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At 05:09 PM 6/30/2003 +0200, Stastny Richard wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I have a minor problem here:
>
>Up to now ENUM WG was not dealing with administrative and management
>issues
>in ENUM, this was left to other bodies like ITU-T, ETSI and the national
>ENUM fora and platforms.
>
>If we now start dealing with:
>
> > stuff like signing policies, key management, dealing with signed
> > and unsigned NAPTR RRsets, etc -- probably should be in the
> > scope of the WG IMO.


Well as a reminder ....the charter of this WG has those things in scope...

Working Group Revised Goals and Scope:

1. The working group will update RFC 2916 to reference the DDDS system
   (revision of RFC 2915) and advance RFC 2916 to Draft Standard.

2. The working group will examine and document various aspects of ENUM
   administrative and/or operational procedures as Informational.
   Issues to be considered include privacy and security considerations
   in storing ENUM related data as well as validation and
   authentication of data, including DDDS NAPTR records in the DNS. The
   working group will coordinate activities in these areas with the
   DNSEXT WG and PROVREG WG when appropriate.

3. The Working Group will continue to maintain appropriate contact and
   liaison with standards bodies and groups, specifically ITU-T SG2,
   in order to provide technical or educational information as needed,
   such as the appropriate use of DNS.  The Working Group will
   encourage the exchange of technical information within the
   emerging global ENUM community as well as documentation on practical
   experiences with implementations or administration of RFC 2916.




>we are jumping head-on in the middle of these issues.
>
>I have no problem with dealing with admin and management issues
>in ENUM WG, but maybe we are getting a bit ahead of ourselves then
>and have to do the basics first.


Then I trust you would like to make a small presentation in Vienna on your 
views of WG next steps? :-)




>best regards
>Richard
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Reid [mailto:Jim.Reid@nominum.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 4:50 PM
> > To: McCandless, Kevin
> > Cc: 'Richard Shockey'; enum@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [Enum] Fwd: I-D
> > ACTION:draft-ietf-dnsext-dns-threats-03.txt
> >
> >
> > >>>>> "Kevin" == McCandless, Kevin <KMcCandless@verisign.com> writes:
> >
> >     Kevin> So, is DNSSEC within the scope of our discussions or not.
> >     Kevin> During the last IETF meeting I thought I heard that DNSSEC
> >     Kevin> is out of scope.  My opinion is that DNSSEC is relevant
> >     Kevin> when security issues are discussed for ENUM.
> >
> > This subject is one of the things I intend to raise in the
> > Future Directions slot at the WG in Vienna. DNSSEC should be
> > out of scope for this WG. How the protocol works is not our
> > concern. However how DNSSEC gets applied to ENUM -- stuff
> > like signing policies, key management, dealing with signed
> > and unsigned NAPTR RRsets, etc -- probably should be in the
> > scope of the WG IMO. Let's see how others feel either on this
> > list or at the Vienna meeting.
> >
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Many thanks to Rich reminding me of section 2
of our charter. There is only one issue:
the interest of the group in these topics up to now
has been from -1 to zero. So I am glad to hear that
there may be interest now.

> Then I trust you would like to make a small presentation in=20
> Vienna on your=20
> views of WG next steps? :-)

ok, I will try ;-)

Richard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Shockey [mailto:rich.shockey@neustar.biz]=20
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 5:11 PM
> To: Stastny Richard; Jim Reid; McCandless, Kevin
> Cc: enum@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Enum] Fwd: I-D=20
> ACTION:draft-ietf-dnsext-dns-threats-03.txt=20
>=20
>=20
> At 05:09 PM 6/30/2003 +0200, Stastny Richard wrote:
>=20
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I have a minor problem here:
> >
> >Up to now ENUM WG was not dealing with administrative and management=20
> >issues in ENUM, this was left to other bodies like ITU-T,=20
> ETSI and the=20
> >national ENUM fora and platforms.
> >
> >If we now start dealing with:
> >
> > > stuff like signing policies, key management, dealing with=20
> signed and=20
> > > unsigned NAPTR RRsets, etc -- probably should be in the=20
> scope of the=20
> > > WG IMO.
>=20
>=20
> Well as a reminder ....the charter of this WG has those=20
> things in scope...
>=20
> Working Group Revised Goals and Scope:
>=20
> 1. The working group will update RFC 2916 to reference the DDDS system
>    (revision of RFC 2915) and advance RFC 2916 to Draft Standard.
>=20
> 2. The working group will examine and document various aspects of ENUM
>    administrative and/or operational procedures as Informational.
>    Issues to be considered include privacy and security considerations
>    in storing ENUM related data as well as validation and
>    authentication of data, including DDDS NAPTR records in=20
> the DNS. The
>    working group will coordinate activities in these areas with the
>    DNSEXT WG and PROVREG WG when appropriate.
>=20
> 3. The Working Group will continue to maintain appropriate contact and
>    liaison with standards bodies and groups, specifically ITU-T SG2,
>    in order to provide technical or educational information as needed,
>    such as the appropriate use of DNS.  The Working Group will
>    encourage the exchange of technical information within the
>    emerging global ENUM community as well as documentation on=20
> practical
>    experiences with implementations or administration of RFC 2916.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> >we are jumping head-on in the middle of these issues.
> >
> >I have no problem with dealing with admin and management=20
> issues in ENUM=20
> >WG, but maybe we are getting a bit ahead of ourselves then=20
> and have to=20
> >do the basics first.
>=20
>=20
> Then I trust you would like to make a small presentation in=20
> Vienna on your=20
> views of WG next steps? :-)
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> >best regards
> >Richard
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Reid [mailto:Jim.Reid@nominum.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 4:50 PM
> > > To: McCandless, Kevin
> > > Cc: 'Richard Shockey'; enum@ietf.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Enum] Fwd: I-D=20
> > > ACTION:draft-ietf-dnsext-dns-threats-03.txt
> > >
> > >
> > > >>>>> "Kevin" =3D=3D McCandless, Kevin <KMcCandless@verisign.com>=20
> > > >>>>> writes:
> > >
> > >     Kevin> So, is DNSSEC within the scope of our=20
> discussions or not.
> > >     Kevin> During the last IETF meeting I thought I heard=20
> that DNSSEC
> > >     Kevin> is out of scope.  My opinion is that DNSSEC is relevant
> > >     Kevin> when security issues are discussed for ENUM.
> > >
> > > This subject is one of the things I intend to raise in the Future=20
> > > Directions slot at the WG in Vienna. DNSSEC should be out=20
> of scope=20
> > > for this WG. How the protocol works is not our concern.=20
> However how=20
> > > DNSSEC gets applied to ENUM -- stuff like signing policies, key=20
> > > management, dealing with signed and unsigned NAPTR RRsets, etc --=20
> > > probably should be in the scope of the WG IMO. Let's see=20
> how others=20
> > > feel either on this list or at the Vienna meeting.
> > >
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Kevin and all,

  There have been some here that seem not to wish to discuss
DNSSEC as the progress on DNSSEC is far behind and relatively
inactive presently.  However I must agree that DNSSEC is
directly relevant to ENUM and cannot be reasonably considered
"Out of Scope" as some have contended...

McCandless, Kevin wrote:

> So, is DNSSEC within the scope of our discussions or not.  During the last IETF meeting I thought I heard that DNSSEC is out of scope.  My opinion is that DNSSEC is relevant when security issues are discussed for ENUM.
>
> Kevin...
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Shockey [mailto:rich.shockey@neustar.biz]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 8:55 AM
> > To: enum@ietf.org
> > Subject: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-dnsext-dns-threats-03.txt
> >
> >
> >
> > FYI
> >
> >
> > A useful document to keep in mind considering our ongoing
> > discussions of
> > DNSSEC.
> >
> > >To: IETF-Announce: ;
> > >Cc: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org
> > >From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org
> > >Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org
> > >Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-dnsext-dns-threats-03.txt
> > >Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:37:45 -0400
> > >Sender: owner-ietf-announce@ietf.org
> > >
> > >
> > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> > >directories.
> > >This draft is a work item of the DNS Extensions Working
> > Group of the IETF.
> > >
> > >         Title           : Threat Analysis Of The Domain Name System
> > >         Author(s)       : D. Atkins, R. Austein
> > >         Filename        : draft-ietf-dnsext-dns-threats-03.txt
> > >         Pages           : 15
> > >         Date            : 2003-6-27
> > >
> > >Although the DNS Security Extensions (DNSSEC) have been under
> > >development for most of the last decade, the IETF has never written
> > >down the specific set of threats against which DNSSEC is designed to
> > >protect.  Among other drawbacks, this cart-before-the-horse situation
> > >has made it difficult to determine whether DNSSEC meets its design
> > >goals, since its design goals are not well specified.  This note
> > >attempts to document some of the known threats to the DNS, and, in
> > >doing so, attempts to measure to what extent (if any) DNSSEC is a
> > >useful tool in defending against these threats.
> > >
> > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
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