From enum-bounces@ietf.org Sun Jul 01 23:09:06 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I5CHZ-0000fJ-Mq; Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:08:57 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I5CHX-0000dy-KO for enum@ietf.org; Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:08:55 -0400 Received: from smtp.cnnic.cn ([159.226.7.146] helo=cnnic.cn) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I5CHS-00069q-6F for enum@ietf.org; Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:08:55 -0400 Received: (eyou send program); Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:08:42 +0800 Message-ID: <383345722.40954@cnnic.cn> X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: chenbo@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown (HELO ms131434) (218.241.111.25) by 159.226.7.146 with SMTP; Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:08:42 +0800 Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:08:42 +0800 From: "B.Chen" To: "Bernie Hoeneisen" Subject: Re: [Enum] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt X-mailer: Foxmail 5.0 [cn] 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List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Are you coming to Chicago ... do you need time to present your draft? -----Original Message----- From: B.Chen [mailto:chenbo@cnnic.cn]=20 Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:09 PM To: Bernie Hoeneisen Cc: enum Subject: Re: [Enum] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt Thank you for your concern about my draft.I will use the "Guide and = Template for IANA Registration of Enumservice" as a guideline for the future revision of my draft. B.Chen =09 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 2007-06-29 23:02:46 = =C4=FA=D4=DA=C0=B4=D0=C5=D6=D0=D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >Dear authors of draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt! > >This is an interesting document. I especially like the comprehesive=20 >examples section. > >Could you please consider to use the "Guide and Template for IANA=20 >Registrations of Enumservices" > > =20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide > -03.txt (or soon=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide > -04.txt) > >as a guideline for future revisions of your Internet-Draft, so that all = >the chapters required for a ENUMservice registrations are coverered. > >cheers, > Bernie > > >On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Richard Shockey wrote: > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org [mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org] >> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:50 PM >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >> Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20 >> directories. >> >> >> Title : Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) Service >> Registration for MGCP >> Author(s) : C. Bo, et al. >> Filename : draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt >> Pages : 13 >> Date : 2007-6-28 >> >> MGCP decomposes a multimedia gateway into two parts, a call agent = and >> a media gateway,thus brings greater extensibility and makes it easy >> to construct a large-scale VoIP network. This document registers = the >> MGCP Enumservice according to the guidelines given in RFC 3761 >> [3].This kind of Enumservice is mainly applied in Carrier Networks. >> >> >> A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt >> >> To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to=20 >> i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body=20 >> of the message. >> You can also visit=20 >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce >> to change your subscription settings. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the=20 >> username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Status of Drafts and in Drafts the Queue Overview - Alexander Mayhofer WG Secretary 2. Review status RFC 3761 update. ( Discussion of new Editor and work plan.) 3. Review of existing drafts Focus on finishing the Guide and Template draft in order to use if for the MGCP service application. Title : Guide and Template for IANA Registrations of Enumservices Author(s) : J. Livingood, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-03.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2007-3-7 This document provides a guide to and template for the creation of new IANA registration of ENUM (E.164 Number Mapping) services. i It is also to be used for updates of existing IANA registrations. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-03.tx t Title : Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) Service Registration for MGCP Author(s) : C. Bo, et al. Filename : draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2007-6-28 MGCP decomposes a multimedia gateway into two parts, a call agent and a media gateway,thus brings greater extensibility and makes it easy to construct a large-scale VoIP network. This document registers the MGCP Enumservice according to the guidelines given in RFC 3761 [3].This kind of Enumservice is mainly applied in Carrier Networks. Registration of Enumservices for experimental, private or trial use draft-hoeneisen-enum-x-service-regs-00 http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hoeneisen-enum-x-service-regs-00.txt 4. Title : ENUM-based Softswitch Requirement Author(s) : J. Lim, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-softswitch-req-00.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2007-4-30 This document describes experiences of operational requirements and several considerations for ENUM-based softswitches concerning call routing between two Korean VoIP carriers, gained during the ENUM pre- commercial trial hosted by National Internet Development Agency of Korea (NIDA) in 2006. These experiences show that an interim solution can maintain the stability of on-going commercial softswitch system operations during the initial stage of ENUM service, where the DNS does not have sufficient data for the majority of calls. 5. So long and thanks for all the fish? 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(Exim 4.43) id 1I5jl1-0004rG-BX; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:53:35 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I5jl0-0004r4-Ed for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:53:34 -0400 Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I5jl0-0003gJ-06 for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:53:34 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l63Er2DK018987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 3 Jul 2007 07:53:05 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: "'B.Chen'" References: <383432604.05179@cnnic.cn> In-Reply-To: <383432604.05179@cnnic.cn> Subject: RE: RE: [Enum] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 10:53:01 -0400 Message-ID: <02a601c7bd81$dc753c50$955fb4f0$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ace9IJdmWtLRNAQYQ7aIxv7PqXsHjAAYTcBw Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 33cc095b503da4365ce57c727e553cf1 Cc: 'enum' X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Excellent .. you are on the agenda... -----Original Message----- From: B.Chen [mailto:chenbo@cnnic.cn]=20 Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 11:17 PM To: Richard Shockey Cc: enum Subject: Re: RE: [Enum] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt A colleague of mine will come to Chicago, and he will give a = presentation substituting for me. =09 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 2007-07-03 00:01:16 = =C4=FA=D4=DA=C0=B4=D0=C5=D6=D0=D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >Are you coming to Chicago ... do you need time to present your draft? > >-----Original Message----- >From: B.Chen [mailto:chenbo@cnnic.cn] >Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:09 PM >To: Bernie Hoeneisen >Cc: enum >Subject: Re: [Enum] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt > >Thank you for your concern about my draft.I will use the "Guide and=20 >Template for IANA Registration of Enumservice" as a guideline for the = >future revision of my draft. > > B.Chen > >=09 > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 2007-06-29 23:02:46 = =C4=FA=D4=DA=C0=B4=D0=C5=D6=D0=D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >>Dear authors of draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt! >> >>This is an interesting document. I especially like the comprehesive=20 >>examples section. >> >>Could you please consider to use the "Guide and Template for IANA=20 >>Registrations of Enumservices" >> >> =20 >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guid >> e >> -03.txt (or soon >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guid >> e >> -04.txt) >> >>as a guideline for future revisions of your Internet-Draft, so that=20 >>all the chapters required for a ENUMservice registrations are = coverered. >> >>cheers, >> Bernie >> >> >>On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Richard Shockey wrote: >> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org [mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org] >>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:50 PM >>> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >>> Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt >>> >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20 >>> directories. >>> >>> >>> Title : Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) Service >>> Registration for MGCP >>> Author(s) : C. 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Status of Drafts and in Drafts the Queue Overview - Alexander Mayhofer WG Secretary 2. Review status RFC 3761 update. ( Discussion of new Editor and work plan.) 3. Review of existing drafts Focus on finishing the Guide and Template draft in order to use if for the MGCP service application. Title : Guide and Template for IANA Registrations of Enumservices Author(s) : J. Livingood, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-03.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2007-3-7 This document provides a guide to and template for the creation of new IANA registration of ENUM (E.164 Number Mapping) services. i It is also to be used for updates of existing IANA registrations. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-03.tx t Title : Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) Service Registration for MGCP Author(s) : C. Bo, et al. Filename : draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2007-6-28 MGCP decomposes a multimedia gateway into two parts, a call agent and a media gateway,thus brings greater extensibility and makes it easy to construct a large-scale VoIP network. This document registers the MGCP Enumservice according to the guidelines given in RFC 3761 [3].This kind of Enumservice is mainly applied in Carrier Networks. Registration of Enumservices for experimental, private or trial use draft-hoeneisen-enum-x-service-regs-00 http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hoeneisen-enum-x-service-regs-00.txt 4. Title : ENUM-based Softswitch Requirement Author(s) : J. Lim, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-softswitch-req-00.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2007-4-30 This document describes experiences of operational requirements and several considerations for ENUM-based softswitches concerning call routing between two Korean VoIP carriers, gained during the ENUM pre- commercial trial hosted by National Internet Development Agency of Korea (NIDA) in 2006. These experiences show that an interim solution can maintain the stability of on-going commercial softswitch system operations during the initial stage of ENUM service, where the DNS does not have sufficient data for the majority of calls. 5. So long and thanks for all the fish? Richard Shockey Director, Member of the Technical Staff NeuStar 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 03 15:20:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I5nv0-0005ks-Vc; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:20:10 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I5nv0-0005ke-7g for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:20:10 -0400 Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I5nuz-00077f-TZ for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:20:10 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l63JJPSu019940 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:19:29 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: "'enum'" Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:19:23 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c7bda7$12ec4290$38c4c7b0$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C7BD85.8BDAA290" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ace9hSYMZeTwKGJ8R3mjxsvY2wYIPAAIeNDg Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AeGU A4c5 CGFx Cr2K Dexi EguG FRHQ F179 GE8N HVIk HyR5 IoF1 IvMR I5Xo JMoE JW3P; 1; ZQBuAHUAbQBAAGkAZQB0AGYALgBvAHIAZwA=; Sosha1_v1; 7; {8471DAFA-8284-43CD-828D-04C664277EA8}; cgBpAGMAaABhAHIAZABAAHMAaABvAGMAawBlAHkALgB1AHMA; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:19:20 GMT; RgBXADoAIABJAC0ARAAgAEEAQwBUAEkATwBOADoAZAByAGEAZgB0AC0AaABvAGUAbgBlAGkAcwBlAG4ALQBlAG4AdQBtAC0AeAAtAHMAZQByAHYAaQBjAGUALQByAGUAZwBzAC0AMAAxAC4AdAB4AHQA x-cr-puzzleid: {8471DAFA-8284-43CD-828D-04C664277EA8} X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7baded97d9887f7a0c7e8a33c2e3ea1b Subject: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-hoeneisen-enum-x-service-regs-01.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C7BD85.8BDAA290 Content-Type: Message/External-body; 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Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:36:48 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6RVn-0007rj-Jm for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:36:47 -0400 Received: from ns1.neustar.com ([2001:503:c779:1a::9c9a:108a]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6RVm-0004pw-5H for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:36:47 -0400 Received: from stntsmtp01.cis.neustar.com (smartexch.neustar.com [10.31.13.96]) by ns1.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E6B26E92 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 13:36:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stntexch11.cis.neustar.com ([10.31.13.50]) by stntsmtp01.cis.neustar.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Jul 2007 09:36:45 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 09:36:45 -0400 Message-ID: <9D18525F6EF33947BDEF23374EF26C7A06CDAC@stntexch11.cis.neustar.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: notes on draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide Thread-Index: Ace/CUAiX6J8NIcBS5C3VqtuBr6dmA== From: "Peterson, Jon" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jul 2007 13:36:45.0803 (UTC) FILETIME=[87D7DBB0:01C7BF09] X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Scan-Signature: 00e94c813bef7832af255170dca19e36 Subject: [Enum] notes on draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org I've owed the working group some notes on this draft for some time; = hopefully they'll be helpful. If we're really serious about letting the enumservices-guide document be = the yardstick against whch future enumservice registrations are = compared, then it needs significantly more information about the = circumstances in which new enumservices are needed. In the document, the = following question is already posed (in 3.1): Is there any existing = enumservice defined or in progress that satisfies this need? This is a = good start, and definitely needs to be retained. But I think its also a = bit of an oversimplification - how do you really assess whether or not = an existing enumservice satisfies your needs? I would be more concerned = getting new registrants to answer questions like the following: Is the proposed enumservice used to invoke a protocol (like SIP, or = HTTP) or a particular service or application (like voicemail, or = Mapquest), or neither (like "unused", perhaps)? This distinction (at = least between the first two) is described in 3.3, but it really needs = more elaboration. For example: - Does a client need to understand the application, or be aware of the = application, in order to utilize it the enumservice? If not, then = structuring your enumservice around the protocol that contacts the = application may be sufficient. For example, imagine an enumservice = intended for geographical mapping services like Mapquest or Google Maps, = which are reached via HTTP. One might think that registering an = enumservice called "e2u+map" would be appropriate. However, many clients = that support HTTP would be able to use Mapquest or Google Maps - nothing = about Mapquest requires an HTTP client to understand or be aware of the = mapping application in order to use it. A more general enumservice like = "e2u+http" would probably be a more appropriate way to reach Google Maps = or Mapquest because it is more broadly compatible - it doesn't require = existing clients to learn "e2u+map" in order for the service to be = provisioned in ENUM. As a general design principle, we want to avoid = cases in which a client that would be able to dereference the URI, and = interface meaningfully with the resource, is barred from doing so = because it don't happen to understand a particular enumservice. = Understanding this trade-off is fundamental to enumservice design. - Many real-time communications protocols have their own capability = negotiation mechanisms that converge on the best way for two endpoints = to communicate. These include rendez-vous protocols like SIP and XMPP = which are commonly used for VoIP. Other examples of = capability-negotiating services include the address resolution = mechanisms for the im: and pres: URI schemes. Initiating communication = through these protocols does not assume that any particular network = service will end up being invoked. Will the URI returned by a dip to your enumservice contain a telephone = number? Will it be a different number than the one that kicked off the = ENUM process, and if not, how does one prevent the ENUM process from = becoming circular? Will your enumservice be restricted to any private context, or is it = useful (and safe) on the public Internet? Lately we've begun to see more = and more registrations for enumservices that contain information that = isn't intended for the consumption of ordinary Internet endpoints. How should I name the enumservice? This is both a syntactical and a = semantic question. For example, how and why is subtyping used for = enumservices? Nothing in 3.4 really says why you would need one, though = it does list a few reasons why not. Does the URIs returned by your enumservice point to a resource that = changes over time? There are probably more of these, but this is enough to get the basic = idea across. The draft should not only pose such questions, but provide = some considerations culled from our long experience in reviewing = enumservice registrations in the ENUM WG. Future authors of = enumservices, and expert reviewers of enumservices, will thank us. Jon Peterson NeuStar, Inc. _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jul 06 09:29:38 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6nsJ-0008J8-3J; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:29:31 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6nsH-0008Io-Q5 for enum@ietf.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:29:29 -0400 Received: from norman.insensate.co.uk ([213.152.49.123] helo=insensate.co.uk) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6nsG-0000iw-P5 for enum@ietf.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:29:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by insensate.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA196BBA4F; Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:28:53 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <9D18525F6EF33947BDEF23374EF26C7A06CDAC@stntexch11.cis.neustar.com> References: <9D18525F6EF33947BDEF23374EF26C7A06CDAC@stntexch11.cis.neustar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5862AFF2-5B26-4666-9ADE-31F34463FF37@insensate.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lconroy Subject: Re: [Enum] notes on draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:28:35 +0100 To: "Peterson, Jon" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c Cc: enum@ietf.org X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Hi Jon, folks, Quick point - http is a Bad example. We already have web:http and web:https in RFC 4002. all the best, Lawrence On 5 Jul 2007, at 14:36, Peterson, Jon wrote: > I've owed the working group some notes on this draft for some time; > hopefully they'll be helpful. > Is the proposed enumservice used to invoke a protocol (like SIP, or > HTTP) or a particular service or application (like voicemail, or > Mapquest), or neither (like "unused", perhaps)? This distinction > (at least between the first two) is described in 3.3, but it really > needs more elaboration. For example: _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jul 06 11:45:57 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6q0E-0003m8-TT; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:45:50 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6q0D-0003kW-WA for enum@ietf.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:45:50 -0400 Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6q09-0004fp-JG for enum@ietf.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:45:49 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l66FjEtt026185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 6 Jul 2007 08:45:25 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: "'enum'" Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 11:44:55 -0400 Message-ID: <03eb01c7bfe4$a1784150$e468c3f0$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ace/5JlwXGY5Wd46RXyVfHvT8SQ/mg== Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?'Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m'?= , "'Scott O. Bradner'" Subject: [Enum] On the issue of RFC 3761bis... X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Patrik Falstrom has requested that he be relieved of editing responsibility for RFC 3761bis due to personal and professional time restraints. The chairs have selected Scott Bradner as the new document editor. Scott as many of you know was, in large measure, responsible for creating the ENUM work group when he was AD for Transport and is intimately familiar with the protocol and the many issues associated with it. It is vitally important that we continue to provide Scott with input to RFC3761bis so we can make progress towards submitting the document as a Draft Standard as we progress towards winding down the ENUM WG. We will be allotting some time in Chicago to a discussion of open issues. If there are issues Scott needs to be aware of, now would be an appropriate time to post them to the list. Richard Shockey Director, Member of the Technical Staff NeuStar 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jul 06 16:21:49 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6uJH-0002RA-0x; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:21:47 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6uJG-0002MG-17 for enum@ietf.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:21:46 -0400 Received: from norman.insensate.co.uk ([213.152.49.123] helo=insensate.co.uk) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6uJB-0003bx-IE for enum@ietf.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:21:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by insensate.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF8DBBB87; Fri, 6 Jul 2007 21:21:40 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <03eb01c7bfe4$a1784150$e468c3f0$@us> References: <03eb01c7bfe4$a1784150$e468c3f0$@us> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <677B7686-BDE3-4687-A851-0A6BCD818FBE@insensate.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: lconroy Subject: Re: [Enum] On the issue of RFC 3761bis... Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 21:21:39 +0100 To: Richard Shockey X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7aafa0432175920a4b3e118e16c5cb64 Cc: 'enum' , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?'Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m'?= , "'Scott O. Bradner'" X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Hi Richard, First issue is - on which version are we to comment? AFAICT, draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-00.txt is no more. Please can someone publish a current version? (before Monday)? atb, L On 6 Jul 2007, at 16:44, Richard Shockey wrote: > Patrik Falstrom has requested that he be relieved of editing > responsibility > for RFC 3761bis due to personal and professional time restraints. > > The chairs have selected Scott Bradner as the new document editor. > Scott as > many of you know was, in large measure, responsible for creating > the ENUM > work group when he was AD for Transport and is intimately familiar > with the > protocol and the many issues associated with it. > > It is vitally important that we continue to provide Scott with > input to > RFC3761bis so we can make progress towards submitting the document > as a > Draft Standard as we progress towards winding down the ENUM WG. > > We will be allotting some time in Chicago to a discussion of open > issues. If > there are issues Scott needs to be aware of, now would be an > appropriate > time to post them to the list. > > Richard Shockey > Director, Member of the Technical Staff > NeuStar > 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 > sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org > PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 > PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > enum mailing list > enum@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jul 06 17:19:32 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6vD8-00032I-9Q; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:19:30 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6vD7-000328-B2 for enum@ietf.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:19:29 -0400 Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I6vD2-0000iP-Tm for enum@ietf.org; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:19:29 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l66LJ5RY006563 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:19:07 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: "'lconroy'" References: <03eb01c7bfe4$a1784150$e468c3f0$@us> <677B7686-BDE3-4687-A851-0A6BCD818FBE@insensate.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <677B7686-BDE3-4687-A851-0A6BCD818FBE@insensate.co.uk> Subject: RE: [Enum] On the issue of RFC 3761bis... Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 17:18:45 -0400 Message-ID: <05f701c7c013$3dde29f0$b99a7dd0$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcfAC0IhqRNT89EXR12KGxnyYtOTawAB92Lg Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 92df29fa99cf13e554b84c8374345c17 Cc: 'enum' , =?iso-8859-1?Q?'Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m'?= , "'Scott O. Bradner'" X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Humm good point..that should have been part of the WG ID list. Patrik can you resubmit 00 for the ID Editors? -----Original Message----- From: lconroy [mailto:lconroy@insensate.co.uk]=20 Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 4:22 PM To: Richard Shockey Cc: 'enum'; 'Patrik F=E4ltstr=F6m'; 'Scott O. Bradner' Subject: Re: [Enum] On the issue of RFC 3761bis... Hi Richard, First issue is - on which version are we to comment? AFAICT, draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-00.txt is no more. Please can someone publish a current version? (before Monday)? atb, L On 6 Jul 2007, at 16:44, Richard Shockey wrote: > Patrik Falstrom has requested that he be relieved of editing =20 > responsibility > for RFC 3761bis due to personal and professional time restraints. > > The chairs have selected Scott Bradner as the new document editor. =20 > Scott as > many of you know was, in large measure, responsible for creating =20 > the ENUM > work group when he was AD for Transport and is intimately familiar =20 > with the > protocol and the many issues associated with it. > > It is vitally important that we continue to provide Scott with =20 > input to > RFC3761bis so we can make progress towards submitting the document =20 > as a > Draft Standard as we progress towards winding down the ENUM WG. > > We will be allotting some time in Chicago to a discussion of open =20 > issues. If > there are issues Scott needs to be aware of, now would be an =20 > appropriate > time to post them to the list. > > Richard Shockey > Director, Member of the Technical Staff > NeuStar > 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 > sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org > PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 > PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > enum mailing list > enum@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Sat Jul 07 06:47:48 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I77pH-0005t9-Lz; Sat, 07 Jul 2007 06:47:43 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I77pG-0005sy-P4 for enum@ietf.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2007 06:47:42 -0400 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I77pC-0007wx-9n for enum@ietf.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2007 06:47:42 -0400 Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Jul 2007 12:47:37 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAMYLj0aQ/uCKh2dsb2JhbAAsjwkBAQkOLA X-IronPort-AV: i="4.16,510,1175464800"; d="scan'208"; a="147468411:sNHT27969758" Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l67Alb8M011366; Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:47:37 +0200 Received: from xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com (xbh-ams-331.cisco.com [144.254.231.71]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l67AlOTC027889; Sat, 7 Jul 2007 10:47:24 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-332.cisco.com ([144.254.231.73]) by xbh-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:47:22 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([144.254.226.40]) by xfe-ams-332.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:47:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <05f701c7c013$3dde29f0$b99a7dd0$@us> References: <03eb01c7bfe4$a1784150$e468c3f0$@us> <677B7686-BDE3-4687-A851-0A6BCD818FBE@insensate.co.uk> <05f701c7c013$3dde29f0$b99a7dd0$@us> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9E98B9B7-3BE9-46BD-8EF0-D1B056BBD3DC@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= Subject: Re: [Enum] On the issue of RFC 3761bis... Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:47:13 +0200 To: Richard Shockey X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2007 10:47:22.0583 (UTC) FILETIME=[32EB0E70:01C7C084] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=2438; t=1183805257; x=1184669257; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim1002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=paf@cisco.com; z=From:=20=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=3DE4ltstr=3DF6m?=3D=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[Enum]=20On=20the=20issue=20of=20RFC=203761bis... |Sender:=20; bh=Z81u8XxuEd0dG1M7OrALAdDG1hWYPcC1epCvlKUCXCc=; b=UfgIkQO/b/mWuKmwzuKBMet5r38tEtibqlnRS1wBqfzvuKaF53Xk/5uF2GBBIQQ95XjWTTjV GdM1FViyKGbjONisBmY7k6fElJupJ+0fAKCnJYR7PeWCGPhktAn7x54g; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=paf@cisco.com; dkim=pass (si g from cisco.com/amsdkim1002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d185fa790257f526fedfd5d01ed9c976 Cc: 'enum' , 'lconroy' , "'Scott O. Bradner'" X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Yes, I will make sure a new version exists. And, I will continue to work with Scott. It is "time for typing" that =20= I do not have enough of. I read mail on this list, follow the =20 discussions, etc etc... Patrik On 6 jul 2007, at 23.18, Richard Shockey wrote: > Humm good point..that should have been part of the WG ID list. > > Patrik can you resubmit 00 for the ID Editors? > > -----Original Message----- > From: lconroy [mailto:lconroy@insensate.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 4:22 PM > To: Richard Shockey > Cc: 'enum'; 'Patrik F=E4ltstr=F6m'; 'Scott O. Bradner' > Subject: Re: [Enum] On the issue of RFC 3761bis... > > Hi Richard, > First issue is - on which version are we to comment? > AFAICT, draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-00.txt is no more. > Please can someone publish a current version? > (before Monday)? > atb, > L > > > On 6 Jul 2007, at 16:44, Richard Shockey wrote: > >> Patrik Falstrom has requested that he be relieved of editing >> responsibility >> for RFC 3761bis due to personal and professional time restraints. >> >> The chairs have selected Scott Bradner as the new document editor. >> Scott as >> many of you know was, in large measure, responsible for creating >> the ENUM >> work group when he was AD for Transport and is intimately familiar >> with the >> protocol and the many issues associated with it. >> >> It is vitally important that we continue to provide Scott with >> input to >> RFC3761bis so we can make progress towards submitting the document >> as a >> Draft Standard as we progress towards winding down the ENUM WG. >> >> We will be allotting some time in Chicago to a discussion of open >> issues. If >> there are issues Scott needs to be aware of, now would be an >> appropriate >> time to post them to the list. >> >> Richard Shockey >> Director, Member of the Technical Staff >> NeuStar >> 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 >> sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org >> PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 >> PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> enum mailing list >> enum@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum > > > _______________________________________________ > enum mailing list > enum@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Sun Jul 08 06:31:13 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I7U2i-000427-Ou; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 06:31:04 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] 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b2809b6f39decc6de467dcf252f42af1 Subject: [Enum] ENUM WG Agenda IETF 69 Chicago -FINAL X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org FINAL FINAL IETF 69 Chicago Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) WG Agenda Chair(s): Patrik Faltstrom Richard Shockey WG Secretary: Alexander Mayrhofer RAI Director(s): Jon Peterson jon.peterson@neustar.biz Cullen Jennings fluffy@cisco.com RAI Area Advisor: Jon Peterson jon.peterson@neustar.biz MONDAY 1500-1520 Afternoon Beverage and Snack Break I - Fourth Floor Exhibition Hall 1520-1720 Afternoon Session II Monroe INT intarea Internet Area Open Meeting Salon 2 IRTF eme End Middle End Research Group Crystal OPS nee Netconf Extensions and Evolution BOF Grand Ballroom RAI enum Telephone Number Mapping WG Adams RAI avt Audio/Video Transport WG State Ballroom RTG pce Path Computation Element WG Salon 3 SEC dkim Agenda 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Status of Drafts and in Drafts the Queue Overview - Alexander Mayhofer WG Secretary 2. Review status RFC 3761bis update. Scott Bradner ( Discussion of work plan.) 3. Review of existing drafts Chairs Notes: Focus on finishing the Guide and Template draft in order to use if for the MGCP service application. Bernie Hoeneisen - Leading Discussion Title : Guide and Template for IANA Registrations of Enumservices Author(s) : J. Livingood, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-04.txt Pages : 19 This document provides a guide to and template for the creation of new IANA registration of ENUM (E.164 Number Mapping) services. i It is also to be used for updates of existing IANA registrations. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-04.tx t 3a. Registration of Enumservices for experimental, private or trial use draft-hoeneisen-enum-x-service-regs-00.txt http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hoeneisen-enum-x-service-regs-00.txt 4. Title : Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) Service Registration for MGCP Author(s) : C. Bo, et al. Filename : draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2007-6-28 MGCP decomposes a multimedia gateway into two parts, a call agent and a media gateway, thus brings greater extensibility and makes it easy to construct a large-scale VoIP network. This document registers the MGCP Enumservice according to the guidelines given in RFC 3761 [3].This kind of Enumservice is mainly applied in Carrier Networks. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt 5. Title : ENUM-based Softswitch Requirement Author(s) : J. Lim, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-softswitch-req-00.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2007-4-30 This document describes experiences of operational requirements and several considerations for ENUM-based softswitches concerning call routing between two Korean VoIP carriers, gained during the ENUM pre- commercial trial hosted by National Internet Development Agency of Korea (NIDA) in 2006. These experiences show that an interim solution can maintain the stability of on-going commercial softswitch system operations during the initial stage of ENUM service, where the DNS does not have sufficient data for the majority of calls. 6. So long and thanks for all the fish? Richard Shockey Director, Member of the Technical Staff NeuStar 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 09 10:30:12 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I7uFf-00053E-SY; Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:30:11 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I7uFe-0004xw-EO for enum@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:30:10 -0400 Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I7uFe-0000T4-2a for enum@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:30:10 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l69ETlV8025200 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2007 07:29:49 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: "'enum'" Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:29:52 -0400 Message-ID: <001901c7c235$9e082e60$da188b20$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcfCNZ0RXWEpD60HS0ukvExTWe1mUQ== Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c Subject: [Enum] Reminder - The sooner you get Alexander and me the presentations for the WG meeting .. 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Richard Shockey Director, Member of the Technical Staff NeuStar 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 10 13:50:28 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8Jqz-0002YW-RF; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:50:26 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8Jqp-0002Uv-JC for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:50:15 -0400 Received: from fw-d-whp.denic.de ([81.91.160.27] helo=denic.de) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8Jqa-000489-8u for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:50:15 -0400 Received: by unknown.office.denic.de (Postfix, from userid 501) id E9C484DDABA; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:49:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:49:30 +0200 From: Peter Koch To: Bernie Hoeneisen Subject: Re: [Enum] Future ENUMservice registration process; your feedback is appeciated! Message-ID: <20070710174930.GD6573@unknown.office.denic.de> Mail-Followup-To: Bernie Hoeneisen , enum@ietf.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb Cc: enum@ietf.org X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Hi Bernie, > 2) announce the draft on the enum@ietf.org list (which will survive the > working group) > [option - make an "enumservices-review@ietf.org" mailing list] I second the suggestion to look at BCP13 "Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (MIME) Part Four: Registration Procedures" for its reusable parts. > 3) ask for feedback/review on the list > > 4) submit the draft as an individual submission to the > RFC editor || IESG || IANA. The basic problem here is that RFC3761 requires an RFC on Standards Track, in Experimental or as a BCP, so these publication channels do not seem to be the appropriate choices. However, since the ENUM services draft sets out the guidelines for expert review, it could at the same time redefine the requirements to, say, "expert review" plus some parts borrowed from the MIME types registration. > Is the Expert review needed in every case? Yes, even if it is only to avoid duplicates. > 4) As an alternative to experts, a directorate could perform reviews by > request of the IESG. There are potentially two options for that: > a) create a dedicated ENUM directorate > b) approach the DNS directorate whether they could/would do the > ENUMservices reviews > Actual question: Is the concept of a directorate viable for reviewing > Enumservice registrations? This more or less boils down to how the group of experts is selected or appointed. Let's figure out how close the similarities to MIME types (huh, "media" types) are and what experiences one does and does not want to repeat. -Peter PS: Try to add to the XML source ;-) _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 10 14:23:20 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8KMk-0002Jl-4b; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:23:14 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8KMi-0002FC-DP for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:23:12 -0400 Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8KMi-0005PZ-1g for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:23:12 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l6AIMBec028470 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:22:12 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: "'Peter Koch'" , "'Bernie Hoeneisen'" References: <20070710174930.GD6573@unknown.office.denic.de> In-Reply-To: <20070710174930.GD6573@unknown.office.denic.de> Subject: RE: [Enum] Future ENUMservice registration process; your feedback is appeciated! Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:22:08 -0400 Message-ID: <009f01c7c31f$3b4c3100$b1e49300$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcfDGscV49pU1lgdQGyBE0sJ476ZcAAA/y/w Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3e15cc4fdc61d7bce84032741d11c8e5 Cc: enum@ietf.org X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Thanks BTW for your comments Peter.. some additions in line. BTW Peter do you remember what is the email address for MIME type additions? -----Original Message----- From: Peter Koch [mailto:pk@DENIC.DE] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:50 PM To: Bernie Hoeneisen Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Enum] Future ENUMservice registration process; your feedback is appeciated! Hi Bernie, > 2) announce the draft on the enum@ietf.org list (which will survive the > working group) > [option - make an "enumservices-review@ietf.org" mailing list] RS> yep .. I second the suggestion to look at BCP13 "Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (MIME) Part Four: Registration Procedures" for its reusable parts. RS > Good point .. I agree. > > 4) submit the draft as an individual submission to the > RFC editor || IESG || IANA. The basic problem here is that RFC3761 requires an RFC on Standards Track, in Experimental or as a BCP, so these publication channels do not seem to be the appropriate choices. However, since the ENUM services draft sets out the guidelines for expert review, it could at the same time redefine the requirements to, say, "expert review" plus some parts borrowed from the MIME types registration. RS> Well we are revising RFC 3761 so we can deal with that as well. > Is the Expert review needed in every case? Yes, even if it is only to avoid duplicates. RS> Correct. _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 10 14:27:23 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8KQk-0003Xd-98; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:27:22 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8KQi-0003XF-K5 for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:27:20 -0400 Received: from peregrine.verisign.com ([216.168.239.74]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8KQi-000714-FH for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:27:20 -0400 Received: from dul1wnexcn02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (dul1wnexcn02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.170.12.139]) by peregrine.verisign.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l6AIOHQF010649; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:24:17 -0400 Received: from dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([10.170.12.134]) by dul1wnexcn02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:27:18 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Enum] Future ENUMservice registration process; your feedback is appeciated! Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:27:18 -0400 Message-ID: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF0701E63C41@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <009f01c7c31f$3b4c3100$b1e49300$@us> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Enum] Future ENUMservice registration process; your feedback is appeciated! Thread-Index: AcfDGscV49pU1lgdQGyBE0sJ476ZcAAA/y/wAABH9QA= From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: "Richard Shockey" , "Peter Koch" , "Bernie Hoeneisen" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2007 18:27:18.0444 (UTC) FILETIME=[F29286C0:01C7C31F] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cf4fa59384e76e63313391b70cd0dd25 Cc: enum@ietf.org X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Shockey [mailto:richard@shockey.us]=20 > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:22 PM > To: 'Peter Koch'; 'Bernie Hoeneisen' > Cc: enum@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Enum] Future ENUMservice registration=20 > process;your feedback is appeciated! >=20 > Thanks BTW for your comments Peter.. some additions in line. >=20 > BTW Peter do you remember what is the email address for MIME=20 > type additions? http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-types -Scott- _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 10 14:44:58 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8Khk-00030n-1U; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:44:56 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8Khg-0002pR-1M for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:44:52 -0400 Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8Khf-0007UF-Lg for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:44:52 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l6AIiLU1001052 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:44:22 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: "'Hollenbeck, Scott'" , "'Livingood, Jason'" References: <009f01c7c31f$3b4c3100$b1e49300$@us> <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF0701E63C41@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF0701E63C41@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Subject: RE: [Enum] Future ENUMservice registration process; your feedback is appeciated! Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:44:18 -0400 Message-ID: <00ff01c7c322$56349720$029dc560$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcfDGscV49pU1lgdQGyBE0sJ476ZcAAA/y/wAABH9QAAAJAuIA== Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 39bd8f8cbb76cae18b7e23f7cf6b2b9f Cc: enum@ietf.org X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Thanks I needed that for the CNAM draft ... A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-cnam-05.txt -----Original Message----- From: Hollenbeck, Scott [mailto:shollenbeck@verisign.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:27 PM To: Richard Shockey; Peter Koch; Bernie Hoeneisen Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Enum] Future ENUMservice registration process; your feedback is appeciated! > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Shockey [mailto:richard@shockey.us] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:22 PM > To: 'Peter Koch'; 'Bernie Hoeneisen' > Cc: enum@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Enum] Future ENUMservice registration > process;your feedback is appeciated! > > Thanks BTW for your comments Peter.. some additions in line. > > BTW Peter do you remember what is the email address for MIME > type additions? http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-types -Scott- _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 11 12:15:08 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8eqF-0008NB-Sf; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:15:03 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8eqE-0008LO-7P; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:15:02 -0400 Received: from ns1.neustar.com ([2001:503:c779:1a::9c9a:108a]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8eqD-0004hg-VJ; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:15:02 -0400 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns1.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C0C26EBB; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:15:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1I8eqD-0005oM-Og; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:15:01 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:15:01 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Scan-Signature: 31247fb3be228bb596db9127becad0bc Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-enum-im-service-03.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. 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This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF. Title : Guide and Template for IANA Registrations of Enumservices Author(s) : J. Livingood, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-04.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2007-7-12 This document provides a guide to and template for the creation of new IANA registrations of ENUM (E.164 Number Mapping) services. It is also to be used for updates of existing IANA registrations. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-04.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-12110526.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-04.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-04.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-12110526.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum --NextPart-- From enum-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 12 13:16:57 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I92Hc-0005Gv-Ps; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:16:52 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I92HZ-000579-NV; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:16:49 -0400 Received: from ns4.neustar.com ([156.154.24.139]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I92HZ-0004Gr-Fa; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:16:49 -0400 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns4.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436EA2AC9B; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:16:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1I92H4-0005X6-3I; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:16:18 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:16:18 -0400 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 73734d43604d52d23b3eba644a169745 Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-enum-validation-epp-06.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF. Title : ENUM Validation Information Mapping for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Author(s) : B. Hoeneisen Filename : draft-ietf-enum-validation-epp-06.txt Pages : 26 Date : 2007-7-12 This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) extension framework for mapping information about the validation process that has been applied for the E.164 number (or number range), which the E.164 Number Mapping (ENUM) domain name is based on. Specified in the Extensible Markup Language (XML), this mapping extends the EPP domain name mapping to provide an additional feature required for the provisioning of ENUM domain names. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-validation-epp-06.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-enum-validation-epp-06.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-validation-epp-06.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-12122349.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-validation-epp-06.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-enum-validation-epp-06.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-12122349.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum --NextPart-- From enum-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 12 15:15:10 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I9485-0006wD-5j; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:15:09 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I947y-0006t5-BU; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:15:02 -0400 Received: from ns0.neustar.com ([156.154.16.158]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I947y-0001PL-2I; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:15:02 -0400 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns0.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEA6329EF; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:15:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1I947x-0005xX-Rh; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:15:01 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:15:01 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Scan-Signature: 31247fb3be228bb596db9127becad0bc Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-enum-calendar-service-03.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF. Title : A Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) Service Registration for Internet Calendaring Services Author(s) : R. Mahy Filename : draft-ietf-enum-calendar-service-03.txt Pages : 7 Date : 2007-7-12 This document registers a Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) service for Internet Calendaring Services. Specifically, this document focuses on provisioning 'mailto:' (iMIP) and 'http:' (CalDAV) URIs in ENUM. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-calendar-service-03.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-enum-calendar-service-03.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-calendar-service-03.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-12143305.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-calendar-service-03.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-enum-calendar-service-03.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-12143305.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum --NextPart-- From enum-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 12 15:28:23 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I94Kn-0008BM-GG; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:28:17 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I94Km-0008B5-6T for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:28:16 -0400 Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I94Ki-0002Sx-Nd for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:28:16 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l6CJRrpB016654 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:27:55 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:27:39 -0400 Message-ID: <008901c7c4ba$b6bb0720$24311560$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcfEuPeTXKAiFnJ/TaueFcROYuxE0AAAbWFg Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 52f7a77164458f8c7b36b66787c853da Subject: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-01.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org -----Original Message----- From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org [mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:15 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-01.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) Service Registration for MGCP Author(s) : C. Bo, et al. Filename : draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-01.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2007-7-12 MGCP decomposes a multimedia gateway into two parts, a call agent and a media gateway,thus brings greater extensibility and makes it easy to construct a large-scale VoIP network. This document registers the MGCP Enumservice according to the guidelines given in RFC 3761.This kind of Enumservice is mainly applied in Carrier Networks. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-01.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jul 13 14:15:40 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I9Pfx-00063n-Fs; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:15:33 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I9Pfw-00063C-8n; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:15:32 -0400 Received: from ns4.neustar.com ([156.154.24.139]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I9Pfw-0003lL-1X; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:15:32 -0400 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns4.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8352AC65; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:15:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1I9PfR-0007Qk-Nv; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:15:01 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:15:01 -0400 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 31247fb3be228bb596db9127becad0bc Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-enum-iax-03.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF. Title : IANA Registration for IAX Enumservice Author(s) : E. Guy Filename : draft-ietf-enum-iax-03.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2007-7-13 This document registers the IAX2 (Inter-Asterisk eXchange Version 2) Enumservice using the URI scheme 'iax2:' as per the IANA registration process defined in the ENUM specification RFC3761. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-iax-03.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-enum-iax-03.txt". 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-13130646.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-iax-03.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-enum-iax-03.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-13130646.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum --NextPart-- From enum-bounces@ietf.org Sun Jul 15 20:39:44 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAEci-0006EA-2V; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:39:36 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAEch-0006E5-AO for enum@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:39:35 -0400 Received: from norman.insensate.co.uk ([213.152.49.123] helo=insensate.co.uk) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAEcc-0001OE-VT for enum@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:39:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by insensate.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2684DBD14C; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:39:30 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <9E98B9B7-3BE9-46BD-8EF0-D1B056BBD3DC@cisco.com> References: <03eb01c7bfe4$a1784150$e468c3f0$@us> <677B7686-BDE3-4687-A851-0A6BCD818FBE@insensate.co.uk> <05f701c7c013$3dde29f0$b99a7dd0$@us> <9E98B9B7-3BE9-46BD-8EF0-D1B056BBD3DC@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <464FF445-A545-4FD1-8142-3C33E45651F5@insensate.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: lconroy Subject: Re: [Enum] On the issue of RFC 3761bis... Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:39:27 +0100 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Cc: 'enum' , "'Scott O. Bradner'" , Richard Shockey X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Hi Patrik, folks, That's good to hear. Given that we're now in ID shadow and this work is kinda urgent, does =20= anyone have a copy of 3761bis-00 that they could post to this list real =20 soon, please? all the best, Lawrence On 7 Jul 2007, at 11:47, Patrik F=E4ltstr=F6m wrote: > Yes, I will make sure a new version exists. > And, I will continue to work with Scott. It is "time for typing" =20 > that I do not have enough of. I read mail on this list, follow the =20 > discussions, etc etc... > > Patrik > > On 6 jul 2007, at 23.18, Richard Shockey wrote: >> Humm good point..that should have been part of the WG ID list. >> >> Patrik can you resubmit 00 for the ID Editors? _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 16 03:23:49 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAKvo-0001bw-CE; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:23:44 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAKvm-0001bp-KJ for enum@ietf.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:23:42 -0400 Received: from mail.oefeg.at ([62.47.121.5]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAKvd-00013h-Lj for enum@ietf.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:23:42 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7235.2 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7C77A.3DA575DB" Subject: Re: [Enum] On the issue of RFC 3761bis... Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 09:21:44 +0200 Message-ID: <32755D354E6B65498C3BD9FD496C7D466B1DCB@oefeg-s04.oefeg.loc> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Enum] On the issue of RFC 3761bis... Thread-Index: AcfHQdgpWhmHrvrpR5OH8z2v8Ni7gQAOB5cm References: <03eb01c7bfe4$a1784150$e468c3f0$@us><677B7686-BDE3-4687-A851-0A6BCD818FBE@insensate.co.uk><05f701c7c013$3dde29f0$b99a7dd0$@us><9E98B9B7-3BE9-46BD-8EF0-D1B056BBD3DC@cisco.com> <464FF445-A545-4FD1-8142-3C33E45651F5@insensate.co.uk> From: "Stastny Richard" To: "lconroy" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2a25a3f15cd7c4f2ea7dd14d5f6b4bd1 Cc: enum , "Scott O. Bradner" , Richard Shockey X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7C77A.3DA575DB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 here it is =20 I would also suggest to format 01 better =20 Richard ________________________________ Von: lconroy [mailto:lconroy@insensate.co.uk] Gesendet: Mo 16.07.2007 02:39 An: Patrik F=E4ltstr=F6m Cc: 'enum'; 'Scott O. Bradner'; Richard Shockey Betreff: Re: [Enum] On the issue of RFC 3761bis... Hi Patrik, folks, That's good to hear. Given that we're now in ID shadow and this work is kinda urgent, does=20 anyone have a copy of 3761bis-00 that they could post to this list real=20 soon, please? all the best, Lawrence On 7 Jul 2007, at 11:47, Patrik F=E4ltstr=F6m wrote: > Yes, I will make sure a new version exists. > And, I will continue to work with Scott. It is "time for typing"=20 > that I do not have enough of. 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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 09:40:06 +0200 To: lconroy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2007 07:40:09.0533 (UTC) FILETIME=[893766D0:01C7C77C] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=831; t=1184571633; x=1185435633; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim1002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=paf@cisco.com; z=From:=20=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=3DE4ltstr=3DF6m?=3D=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[Enum]=20On=20the=20issue=20of=20RFC=203761bis... |Sender:=20; bh=X6DMyXQFnYEq0ZppQlvAoBTSlhjzR3L4hVYS7TTJ13c=; b=t+FZSxZecCT3y3CifD9Vrf5Mo6rLCUpzEmERLH+sbwrbOquMLYCD8qok0LGDvRTexfwLBUP4 BlZ/TF3UoB0/VcZFTjsltvUliFHwgK326zBU0q8w4P7tAWDgNp+wNdCr; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=paf@cisco.com; dkim=pass (si g from cisco.com/amsdkim1002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 Cc: 'enum' , "'Scott O. Bradner'" , Richard Shockey X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org On 16 jul 2007, at 02.39, lconroy wrote: > Given that we're now in ID shadow and this work is kinda urgent, > does anyone > have a copy of 3761bis-00 that they could post to this list real > soon, please? > I tried to send a -01 that is exactly like -00 before the shadow, but had some mail problems (of course) so it might have arrived too late to the secretariat as it seems. FWIW: You can find any I-D that has been created at a service I built for myself, but you can as well also know about it. Go to http://stupid.domain.name/ietf/-enum- And you get all I-Ds ever posted that I have found that include the string "enum" in the name. You can that way for example go to http:// stupid.domain.name/ietf/draft-ietf-enum and get all drafts ever posted in the ENUM wg, etc. Patrik _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 16 10:36:46 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IARgn-0008Sx-Gv; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:36:41 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAEhj-0000mo-6l for enum@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:44:47 -0400 Received: from newdev.eecs.harvard.edu ([140.247.60.212] helo=newdev.harvard.edu) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAEhh-0006HA-Dq for enum@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:44:47 -0400 Received: by newdev.harvard.edu (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1C3614270B0; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:43:20 -0400 (EDT) To: lconroy@insensate.co.uk, paf@cisco.com Subject: Re: [Enum] On the issue of RFC 3761bis... In-Reply-To: <464FF445-A545-4FD1-8142-3C33E45651F5@insensate.co.uk> Message-Id: <20070716004320.1C3614270B0@newdev.harvard.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:43:20 -0400 (EDT) From: sob@harvard.edu (Scott O. Bradner) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f946603c3d764423e4a93f9c16516a6d X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:36:40 -0400 Cc: enum@ietf.org, sob@harvard.edu, richard@shockey.us X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org > anyone > have a copy of 3761bis-00 that they could post to this list real =20 > soon, please? here is what I have in my archive Scott ---- ENUM P. Faltstrom Internet-Draft Cisco Intended status: Standards Track September 2006 Expires: March 5, 2007 The E.164 to Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI) Dynamic Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) Application (ENUM) draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-00.txt Status of this Memo By submitting this Internet-Draft, each author represents that any applicable patent or other IPR claims of which he or she is aware have been or will be disclosed, and any of which he or she becomes aware will be disclosed, in accordance with Section 6 of BCP 79. Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups. Note that other groups may also distribute working documents as Internet- Drafts. Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any time. It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference material or to cite them other than as "work in progress." The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt. The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html. This Internet-Draft will expire on March 5, 2007. Copyright Notice Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2006). Abstract This document discusses the use of the Domain Name System (DNS) for storage of E.164 [E164] numbers, and resolving those to URIs that can be used for (for example) call setup. This include how DNS can be used for identifying available services connected to one E.164 number. It obsoletes RFC 3761 [RFC3761]. This version of the document (00) is not more than the start of a Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 1] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 discussion for detailed changes. Table of Contents 1. Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1.1. Terminology . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1.2. Use for these mechanisms for private dialing plans . . . . 3 1.3. Application of local policy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 2. The ENUM Application Specifications . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 2.1. Application Unique String . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 2.2. First Well Known Rule . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 2.3. Expected Output . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 2.4. Valid Databases . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 2.4.1. Flags . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 2.4.2. Services Parameters . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 2.5. What constitutes an 'Enum Resolver'? . . . . . . . . . . . 8 3. Registration mechanism for Enumservices . . . . . . . . . . . 8 3.1. Registration Requirements . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 3.1.1. Functionality Requirement . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 3.1.2. Naming requirement . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 3.1.3. Security requirement . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 3.1.4. Publication Requirements . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 3.2. Registration procedure . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 3.2.1. IANA Registration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 3.2.2. Registration Template . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 4. Examples . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 4.1. Example . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 5. IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 6. Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 6.1. DNS Security . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 6.2. Caching Security . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 6.3. Call Routing Security . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 6.4. URI Resolution Security . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 7. Acknowledgements . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 8. Changes in RFC 3761 from RFC 2916 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16 9. Changes from RFC 3761 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16 10. References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16 10.1. Normative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16 10.2. Non-normative references . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17 Author's Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17 Intellectual Property and Copyright Statements . . . . . . . . . . 18 Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 2] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 1. Introduction This document discusses the use of the Domain Name System (DNS) for storage of E.164 [E164] numbers, and resolving those to URIs that can be used for (for example) call setup. This include how DNS can be used for identifying available services connected to one E.164 number. It obsoletes RFC 3761 [RFC3761]. It contains an Dynamic Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) Application specification as found in the document series specified in RFC 3401 [RFC3401]. Through transformation of International Public Telecommunication Numbers in the international format [5], called within this document E.164 numbers, into DNS names and the use of existing DNS services like delegation through NS records and NAPTR records, one can look up what services are available for a specific E.164 in a decentralized way with distributed management of the different levels in the lookup process. The domain "e164.arpa" is being populated in order to provide the infrastructure in DNS for storage of E.164 numbers. In order to facilitate distributed operations, this domain is divided into subdomains. Holders of E.164 numbers which want to be listed in DNS should contact the appropriate zone administrator according to the policy which is attached to the zone. One should start looking for this information by examining the SOA resource record associated with the zone, just like in normal DNS operations. Of course, as with other domains, policies for such listings will be controlled on a subdomain basis and may differ in different parts of the world. 1.1. Terminology The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14, RFC 2119 [1]. All other capitalized terms are taken from the vocabulary found in the DDDS algorithm specification found in RFC 3403 [2]. 1.2. Use for these mechanisms for private dialing plans This document describes the operation of these mechanisms in the context of numbers allocated according to the ITU-T recommendation E.164. The same mechanisms might be used for private dialing plans. If these mechanisms are re-used, the suffix used for the private dialing plan MUST NOT be e164.arpa, to avoid conflict with this specification. Parties to the private dialing plan will need to know Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 3] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 the suffix used by their private dialing plan for correct operation of these mechanisms. Further, the application unique string used SHOULD be the full number as specified, but without the leading '+', and such private use MUST NOT be called "ENUM". 1.3. Application of local policy The Order field in the NAPTR record specifies in what order the DNS records are to be interpreted. This is because DNS does not guarantee the order of records returned in the answer section of a DNS packet. In most ENUM cases this isn't an issue because the typical regular expression will be '!^.*$!' since the first query often results in a terminal Rule. But there are other cases (non-terminal Rules) where two different Rules both match the given Application Unique String. As each Rule is evaluated within the algorithm, one may match a more significant piece of the AUS than the other. For example, by using a non- terminal NAPTR a given set of numbers is sent to some private- dialing-plan-specific zone. Within that zone there are two Rules that state that if a match is for the entire exchange and the service is SIP related then the first, SIP-specific rule is used. But the other Rule matches a longer piece of the AUS, specifying that for some other service (instant messaging) that the Rule denotes a departmental level service. If the shorter matching Rule comes before the longer match, it can 'mask' the other rules. Thus, the order in which each Rule is tested against the AUS is an important corner case that many DDDS applications take advantage of. In the case where the zone authority wishes to state that two Rules have the same effect or are identical in usage, then the Order for those records is set to the same value. In that case, the Preference is used to specify a locally over-ridable suggestion by the zone authority that one Rule might simply be better than another for some reason. For ENUM this specifies where a client is allowed to apply local policy and where it is not. The Order field in the NAPTR is a request from the holder of the E.164 number that the records be handled in a specific way. The Preference field is merely a suggestion from that E.164 holder that one record might be better than another. A client implementing ENUM MUST adhere to the Order field but can simply take the Preference value "on advisement" as part of a client context specific selection method. Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 4] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 2. The ENUM Application Specifications This template defines the ENUM DDDS Application according to the rules and requirements found in [7]. The DDDS database used by this Application is found in [2] which is the document that defines the NAPTR DNS Resource Record type. ENUM is only applicable for E.164 numbers. ENUM compliant applications MUST only query DNS for what it believes is an E.164 number. Since there are numerous dialing plans which can change over time, it is probably impossible for a client application to have perfect knowledge about every valid and dialable E.164 number. Therefore a client application, doing everything within its power, can end up with what it thinks is a syntactically correct E.164 number which in reality is not actually valid or dialable. This implies that applications MAY send DNS queries when, for example, a user mistypes a number in a user interface. Because of this, there is the risk that collisions between E.164 numbers and non-E.164 numbers can occur. To mitigate this risk, the E2U portion of the service field MUST NOT be used for non-E.164 numbers. 2.1. Application Unique String The Application Unique String is a fully qualified E.164 number minus any non-digit characters except for the '+' character which appears at the beginning of the number. The "+" is kept to provide a well understood anchor for the AUS in order to distinguish it from other telephone numbers that are not part of the E.164 namespace. For example, the E.164 number could start out as "+44-116-496-0348". To ensure that no syntactic sugar is allowed into the AUS, all non- digits except for "+" are removed, yielding "+441164960348". 2.2. First Well Known Rule The First Well Known Rule for this Application is the identity rule. The output of this rule is the same as the input. This is because the E.164 namespace and this Applications databases are organized in such a way that it is possible to go directly from the name to the smallest granularity of the namespace directly from the name itself. Take the previous example, the AUS is "+441164960348". Applying the First Well Known Rule produces the exact same string, "+441164960348". Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 5] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 2.3. Expected Output The output of the last DDDS loop is a Uniform Resource Identifier in its absolute form according to the 'absoluteURI' production in the Collected ABNF found in RFC2396 [4]. 2.4. Valid Databases At present only one DDDS Database is specified for this Application. "Dynamic Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) Part Three: The DNS Database" (RFC 3403) [2] specifies a DDDS Database that uses the NAPTR DNS resource record to contain the rewrite rules. The Keys for this database are encoded as domain-names. The output of the First Well Known Rule for the ENUM Application is the E.164 number minus all non-digit characters except for the +. In order to convert this to a unique key in this Database the string is converted into a domain-name according to this algorithm: 1. Remove all characters with the exception of the digits. For example, the First Well Known Rule produced the Key "+442079460148". This step would simply remove the leading "+", producing "442079460148". 2. Put dots (".") between each digit. Example: 4.4.2.0.7.9.4.6.0.1.4.8 3. Reverse the order of the digits. Example: 8.4.1.0.6.4.9.7.0.2.4.4 4. Append the string ".e164.arpa" to the end. Example: 8.4.1.0.6.4.9.7.0.2.4.4.e164.arpa This domain-name is used to request NAPTR records which may contain the end result or, if the flags field is blank, produces new keys in the form of domain-names from the DNS. Some nameserver implementations attempt to be intelligent about items that are inserted into the additional information section of a given DNS response. For example, BIND will attempt to determine if it is authoritative for a domain whenever it encodes one into a packet. If it is, then it will insert any A records it finds for that domain into the additional information section of the answer until the packet reaches the maximum length allowed. It is therefore potentially useful for a client to check for this additional information. It is also easy to contemplate an ENUM enhanced nameserver that understand the actual contents of the NAPTR records it is serving and inserts more appropriate information into the additional information section of the response. Thus, DNS servers MAY interpret Flag values and use that information to include appropriate resource records in the Additional Information portion of the DNS packet. Clients are encouraged to check for additional Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 6] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 information but are not required to do so. See the Additional Information Processing section of RFC 3403 [2], Section 4.2 for more information on NAPTR records and the Additional Information section of a DNS response packet. The character set used to encode the substitution expression is UTF- 8. The allowed input characters are all those characters that are allowed anywhere in an E.164 number. The characters allowed to be in a Key are those that are currently defined for DNS domain-names. 2.4.1. Flags This Database contains a field that contains flags that signal when the DDDS algorithm has finished. At this time two flags are defined, "U" and "D". "U" is defined means that this Rule is the last one and that the output of the Rule is a URI [4]. See RFC 3404 [3]. "D" means the replacement field gives a domain name that should be used when looking up a URI resource record. See draft-ietf-enum-uri-00.txt. If a client encounters a record with an unknown flag, it MUST ignore it and move to the next Rule. This test takes precedence over any ordering since flags can control the interpretation placed on fields. A novel flag might change the interpretation of the regexp and/or replacement fields such that it is impossible to determine if a record matched a given target. If this flag is not present then this rule is non-terminal. If a Rule is non-terminal then clients MUST use the Key produced by this Rewrite Rule as the new Key in the DDDS loop (i.e., causing the client to query for new NAPTR records at the domain-name that is the result of this Rule). 2.4.2. Services Parameters Service Parameters for this Application take the following form and are found in the Service field of the NAPTR record. service-field = "E2U" 1*(servicespec) servicespec = "+" enumservice enumservice = type 0*(subtypespec) subtypespec = ":" subtype type = 1*32(ALPHA / DIGIT) subtype = 1*32(ALPHA / DIGIT) Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 7] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 In other words, a non-optional "E2U" (used to denote ENUM only Rewrite Rules in order to mitigate record collisions) followed by 1 or more or more Enumservices which indicate what class of functionality a given end point offers. Each Enumservice is indicated by an initial '+' character. 2.4.2.1. ENUM Services Enumservice specifications contain the functional specification (i.e., what it can be used for), the valid protocols, and the URI schemes that may be returned. Note that there is no implicit mapping between the textual string "type" or "subtype" in the grammar for the Enumservice and URI schemes or protocols. The mapping, if any, must be made explicit in the specification for the Enumservice itself. A registration of a specific Type also has to specify the Subtypes allowed. The only exception to the registration rule is for Types and Subtypes used for experimental purposes, and those are to start with the facet "X-". These elements are unregistered, experimental, and should be used only with the active agreement of the parties exchanging them. The registration mechanism is specified in Section 3. 2.5. What constitutes an 'Enum Resolver'? There has been some confusion over what exactly an ENUM Resolver returns and what relation that has to the 'Note 1' section in RFC 3402. On first reading it seems as though it might be possible for an ENUM Resolver to return two Rules. The ENUM algorithm always returns a single rule. Specific applications may have application-specific knowledge or facilities that allow them to present multiple results or speed selection, but these should never change the operation of the algorithm. 3. Registration mechanism for Enumservices As specified in the ABNF found in Section 2.4.2, an 'enumservice' is made up of 'types' and 'subtypes'. For any given 'type', the allowable 'subtypes' must be specified in the registration. There is currently no concept of a registered 'subtype' outside the scope of a given 'type'. Thus the registration process uses the 'type' as its main key within the IANA Registry. While the combination of each type and all of its subtypes constitutes the allowed values for the 'enumservice' field, it is not sufficient to simply document those values. A complete registration will also include the allowed URI Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 8] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 schemes, a functional specification, security considerations, intended usage, and any other information needed to allow for interoperability within ENUM. In order to be a registered ENUM Service, the entire specification, including the template, requires approval by the IESG and publication of the Enumservice registration specification as an RFC. 3.1. Registration Requirements Service registration proposals are all expected to conform to various requirements laid out in the following sections. 3.1.1. Functionality Requirement A registered Enumservice must be able to function as a selection mechanism when choosing one NAPTR resource record from another. That means that the registration MUST specify what is expected when using that very NAPTR record, and the URI which is the outcome of the use of it. Specifically, a registered Enumservice MUST specify the URI scheme (s) that may be used for the Enumservice, and, when needed, other information which will have to be transferred into the URI resolution process itself (LDAP Distinguished Names, transferring of the AUS into the resulting URI, etc). 3.1.2. Naming requirement An Enumservice MUST be unique in order to be useful as a selection criteria. Since an Enumservice is made up of a type and a type- dependent subtype, it is sufficient to require that the 'type' itself be unique. The 'type' MUST be unique, conform to the ABNF specified in Section 2.4.2, and MUST NOT start with the facet "X-" which is reserved for experimental, private use. The subtype, being dependent on the type, MUST be unique within a given 'type'. It must conform to the ABNF specified in Section 2.4.2, and MUST NOT start with the facet "X-" which is reserved for experimental, private use. The subtype for one type MAY be the same as a subtype for a different registered type but it is not sufficient to simply reference another type's subtype. The function of each subtype must be specified in the context of the type being registered. 3.1.3. Security requirement An analysis of security issues is required for all registered Enumservices. (This is in accordance with the basic requirements for Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 9] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 all IETF protocols.) All descriptions of security issues must be as accurate as possible regardless of registration tree. In particular, a statement that there are "no security issues associated with this Enumservice" must not be confused with "the security issues associated with this Enumservice have not been assessed". There is no requirement that an Enumservice must be secure or completely free from risks. Nevertheless, all known security risks must be identified in the registration of an Enumservice. The security considerations section of all registrations is subject to continuing evaluation and modification. Some of the issues that should be looked at in a security analysis of an Enumservice are: 1. Complex Enumservices may include provisions for directives that institute actions on a user's resources. In many cases provision can be made to specify arbitrary actions in an unrestricted fashion which may then have devastating results. Especially if there is a risk for a new ENUM lookup, and because of that an infinite loop in the overall resolution process of the E.164. 2. Complex Enumservices may include provisions for directives that institute actions which, while not directly harmful, may result in disclosure of information that either facilitates a subsequent attack or else violates the users privacy in some way. 3. An Enumservice might be targeted for applications that require some sort of security assurance but do not provide the necessary security mechanisms themselves. For example, an Enumservice could be defined for storage of confidential security services information such as alarm systems or message service passcodes, which in turn require an external confidentiality service. 3.1.4. Publication Requirements Proposals for Enumservices registrations MUST be published as one of the following documents; RFC on the Standards Track, Experimental RFC, or as a BCP. IANA will retain copies of all Enumservice registration proposals and "publish" them as part of the Enumservice Registration tree itself. 3.2. Registration procedure Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 10] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 3.2.1. IANA Registration Provided that the Enumservice has obtained the necessary approval, and the RFC is published, IANA will register the Enumservice and make the Enumservice registration available to the community in addition to the RFC publication itself. 3.2.1.1. Location of Enumservice Registrations Enumservice registrations will be published in the IANA repository and made available via anonymous FTP at the following URI: "ftp://ftp.iana.org/assignments/enum-services/". 3.2.1.2. Change Control Change control of Enumservices stay with the IETF via the RFC publication process. Especially, Enumservice registrations may not be deleted; Enumservices which are no longer believed appropriate for use can be declared OBSOLETE by publication of a new RFC and a change to their "intended use" field; such Enumservice will be clearly marked in the lists published by IANA. 3.2.2. Registration Template Enumservice Type: Enumservice Subtype(s): URI Scheme(s): Functional Specification: Security considerations: Intended usage: (One of COMMON, LIMITED USE or OBSOLETE) Author: Any other information that the author deems interesting: Note: In the case where a particular field has no value, that field is left completely blank, especially in the case where a given type has no subtypes. 4. Examples The examples below use theoretical services that contain Enumservices Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 11] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 which might not make sense, but that are still used for educational purposes. For example, the protocol used is in some cases exactly the same string as the URI scheme. That was the specification in RFC 2916, but this 'default' specification of an Enumservice is no longer allowed. All Enumservices need to be registered explicitly by the procedure specified in section Section 3. 4.1. Example $ORIGIN 3.8.0.0.6.9.2.3.6.1.4.4.e164.arpa. NAPTR 10 100 ( "u" "E2U+sip" "" 3.8.0.0.6.9.2.3.6.1.4.4.e164.arpa. ) NAPTR 10 101 ( "u" "E2U+h323" "" 3.8.0.0.6.9.2.3.6.1.4.4.e164.arpa. NAPTR 10 102 "u" "E2U+msg" "!^.*$!mailto:info@example.com!" . _sip._e2u IN URI 10 10 "sip:info@example.com" _h323._e2u IN URI 10 10 "h323:info@example.com" _msg._e2u IN URI 10 10 "mailto:info@example.com" This describes that the domain 3.8.0.0.6.9.2.3.6.1.4.4.e164.arpa. is preferably contacted by SIP, secondly via H.323 for voice, and thirdly by SMTP for messaging. Note that the tokens "sip", "h323", and "msg" are Types registered with IANA, and they have no implicit connection with the protocols or URI schemes with the same names. In all cases, the next step in the resolution process is to use the lookup the URI resource record in DNS, after which resolution mechanism for each of the protocols, (specified by the URI schemes sip, h323 and mailto) to know what node to contact for each. 5. IANA Considerations RFC 2916 (which this document replaces) requested IANA to delegate the E164.ARPA domain following instructions to be provided by the IAB. The domain was delegated according to those instructions. Names within this zone are to be delegated to parties according to the ITU-T Recommendation E.164. The names allocated should be hierarchic in accordance with ITU-T Recommendation E.164, and the Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 12] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 codes should be assigned in accordance with that Recommendation. IAB is to coordinate with ITU-T TSB if the technical contact for the domain e164.arpa is to change, as ITU-T TSB has an operational working relationship with this technical contact which needs to be reestablished. Delegations in the zone e164.arpa (not delegations in delegated domains of e164.arpa) should be done after Expert Review, and the IESG will appoint a designated expert. IANA has created a registry for Enumservices as specified in Section 3. Whenever a new Enumservice is registered by the RFC process in the IETF, IANA is at the time of publication of the RFC to register the Enumservice and add a pointer to the RFC itself. 6. Security Considerations 6.1. DNS Security As ENUM uses DNS, which in its current form is an insecure protocol, there is no mechanism for ensuring that the data one gets back is authentic. As ENUM is deployed on the global Internet, it is expected to be a popular target for various kind of attacks, and attacking the underlying DNS infrastructure is one way of attacking the ENUM service itself. There are multiple types of attacks that can happen against DNS that ENUM implementations should be aware of. The following threats are taken from Threat Analysis Of The Domain Name System [10]: Packet Interception Some of the simplest threats against DNS are various forms of packet interception: monkey-in-the-middle attacks, eavesdropping on requests combined with spoofed responses that beat the real response back to the resolver, and so forth. In any of these scenarios, the attacker can simply tell either party (usually the resolver) whatever it wants that party to believe. While packet interception attacks are far from unique to DNS, DNS's usual behavior of sending an entire query or response in a single unsigned, unencrypted UDP packet makes these attacks particularly easy for any bad guy with the ability to intercept packets on a shared or transit network. ID Guessing and Query Prediction Since the ID field in the DNS header is only a 16-bit field and the server UDP port associated with DNS is a well-known value, there are only 2**32 possible combinations of ID and client UDP port for a given client and server. Thus it is possible for a reasonable brute force attack to allow an attacker to masquerade as a trusted server. In most Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 13] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 respects, this attack is similar to a packet interception attack except that it does not require the attacker to be on a transit or shared network. Name-based Attacks Name-based attacks use the actual DNS caching behavior as a tool to insert bad data into a victim's cache, thus potentially subverting subsequent decisions based on DNS names. Most examples occur with CNAME, NS and DNAME Resource Records as they redirect a victim's query to another location. The common thread in all of these attacks is that response messages allow the attacker to introduce arbitrary DNS names of the attacker's choosing and provide further information that the attacker claims is associated with those names; unless the victim has better knowledge of the data associated with those names, the victim is going to have a hard time defending against this class of attacks. Betrayal By A Trusted Server Another variation on the packet interception attack is the trusted server that turns out not to be so trustworthy, whether by accident or by intent. Many client machines are only configured with stub resolvers, and use trusted servers to perform all of their DNS queries on their behalf. In many cases the trusted server is furnished by the user's ISP and advertised to the client via DHCP or PPP options. Besides accidental betrayal of this trust relationship (via server bugs, successful server break-ins, etc), the server itself may be configured to give back answers that are not what the user would expect (whether in an honest attempt to help the user or to further some other goal such as furthering a business partnership between the ISP and some third party). Denial of Service As with any network service (or, indeed, almost any service of any kind in any domain of discourse), DNS is vulnerable to denial of service attacks. DNS servers are also at risk of being used as denial of service amplifiers, since DNS response packets tend to be significantly longer than DNS query packets. Authenticated Denial of Domain Names The existence of RR types whose absence causes an action other than immediate failure (such as missing MX and SRV RRs, which fail over to A RRs) constitutes a real threat. In the specific case of ENUM, even the immediate failure of a missing RR can be considered a problem as a method for changing call routing policy. Because of these threats, a deployed ENUM service SHOULD include mechanisms which ameliorate these threats. Most of these threats can be solved by verifying the authenticity of the data via mechanisms such as DNSSEC [8] once it is deployed. Others, such and Denial Of Service attacks, cannot be solved by data authentication. It is important to remember that these threats include not only the NAPTR lookups themselves, but also the various records needed for the services to be useful (for example NS, MX, SRV and A records). Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 14] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 Even if DNSSEC is deployed, a service that uses ENUM for address translation should not blindly trust that the peer is the intended party as all kind of attacks against DNS can not be protected against with DNSSEC. A service should always authenticate the peers as part of the setup process for the service itself and never blindly trust any kind of addressing mechanism. Finally, as an ENUM service will be implementing some type of security mechanism, software which implements ENUM MUST be prepared to receive DNSSEC and other standardized DNS security responses, including large responses, EDNS0 signaling, unknown RRs, etc. 6.2. Caching Security The caching in DNS can make the propagation time for a change take the same amount of time as the time to live for the NAPTR records in the zone that is changed. The use of this in an environment where IP-addresses are for hire (for example, when using DHCP [9]) must therefore be done very carefully. 6.3. Call Routing Security There are a number of countries (and other numbering environments) in which there are multiple providers of call routing and number/name- translation services. In these areas, any system that permits users, or putative agents for users, to change routing or supplier information may provide incentives for changes that are actually unauthorized (and, in some cases, for denial of legitimate change requests). Such environments should be designed with adequate mechanisms for identification and authentication of those requesting changes and for authorization of those changes. 6.4. URI Resolution Security A large amount of Security Issues have to do with the resolution process itself, and use of the URIs produced by the DDDS mechanism. Those have to be specified in the registration of the Enumservice used, as specified in Section 3.1.3. 7. Acknowledgements Support and ideas leading to RFC 2916 have come from people at Ericsson, Bjorn Larsson and the group which implemented this scheme in their lab to see that it worked. Input has also arrived from ITU-T SG2, Working Party 1/2 (Numbering, Routing, Global Mobility and Enumservice Definition), the ENUM working group in the IETF, John Klensin and Leif Sunnegardh. Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 15] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 RFC 3761 was created with specific input from: Randy Bush, David Conrad, Richard Hill, Jon Peterson, Jim Reid, Joakim Stralmark, Robert Walter and James Yu. This document was created with input from many people including... 8. Changes in RFC 3761 from RFC 2916 Part from clarifications in the text in this document, the major changes are two: The document uses an explicit DDDS algorithm, and not only NAPTR resource records in an "ad-hoc" mode. In reality this doesn't imply any changes in deployed base of applications, as the algorithm used for ENUM resolution is exactly the same. The format of the service field has changed. The old format was of the form "example+E2U", while the new format is "E2U+example". Reason for this change have to with the added subtypes in the enumservice, the ability to support more than one enumservice per NAPTR RR, and a general agreement in the IETF that the main selector between different NAPTR with the same owner (E2U in this case) should be first. 9. Changes from RFC 3761 The changes are part from clarifying issues (that is not all in version 00) addition of the URI resource record. See examples. 10. References 10.1. Normative References [E164] ITU-T, "The International Public Telecommunication Number Plan", Recommendation E.164, May 1997. [RFC3401] Mealling, M., "Dynamic Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) Part One: The Comprehensive DDDS", RFC 3401, October 2002. [RFC3761] Faltstrom, P. and M. Mealling, "The E.164 to Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI) Dynamic Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) Application (ENUM)", RFC 3761, April 2004. Faltstrom Expires March 5, 2007 [Page 16] Internet-Draft ENUM September 2006 10.2. 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Infrastructure ENUM document status X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org In discussions with our AD Mr. Peterson there seems to be confusion on what the status of the 4 documents that represent the Infrastructure ENUM drafts. They are all basically waiting for revised drafts which is holding up "other matters". We will need to discuss the status of these documents in Chicago in order to expedite things along. Richard Shockey Director, Member of the Technical Staff NeuStar 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 17 17:51:47 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAuxI-0008LV-6P; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:51:40 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAuxG-0008LN-Kg for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:51:38 -0400 Received: from mail146.messagelabs.com ([216.82.245.131]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAuxF-0000IQ-AT for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:51:38 -0400 X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: ppfautz@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-146.messagelabs.com!1184709095!9386572!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.11; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.54] Received: (qmail 27212 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2007 21:51:35 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.54) by server-15.tower-146.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Jul 2007 21:51:35 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6HLpZ5h009716; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:51:35 -0400 Received: from ACCLUST02EVS1.ugd.att.com (acst03.ugd.att.com [135.37.16.8]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6HLpTVP009684; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:51:29 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7C8BC.A15DCA96" Subject: RE: [Enum] Additional Agenda Item for Chicago .. Infrastructure ENUMdocument status Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:51:25 -0400 Message-ID: <34DA635B184A644DA4588E260EC0A25A0FE33B56@ACCLUST02EVS1.ugd.att.com> In-Reply-To: <016701c7c8b3$d6d6efe0$8484cfa0$@us> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Enum] Additional Agenda Item for Chicago .. Infrastructure ENUMdocument status Thread-Index: AcfIs9OC2NQp5ehvTxifh6PnpT9pLQABz6Ww References: <016701c7c8b3$d6d6efe0$8484cfa0$@us> From: "PFAUTZ, PENN L, ATTCORP" To: "Richard Shockey" , X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: b84f8c8fba0e1389e5eb998b64078964 Cc: Cullen Jennings , "Peterson, Jon" X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7C8BC.A15DCA96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rich: I believe there has been a new draft of the infrastructure ENUM requirements I-D for a while (draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-enum-reqs-04.txt, 5/21) that addressed the last round of ISEG comments (I saw a couple of position changes in the I-D tracker) and the document passed to AD follow-up. Is there something else that needs to be done? I am trying to work with my co-authors on the draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure document to get a revision. Penn Pfautz AT&T National Access Management +1-732-420-4962 -----Original Message----- From: Richard Shockey [mailto:richard@shockey.us]=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:48 PM To: enum@ietf.org Cc: 'Cullen Jennings'; 'Peterson,Jon' Subject: [Enum] Additional Agenda Item for Chicago .. Infrastructure ENUMdocument status In discussions with our AD Mr. Peterson there seems to be confusion on what the status of the 4 documents that represent the Infrastructure ENUM drafts. They are all basically waiting for revised drafts which is holding up "other matters".=20 We will need to discuss the status of these documents in Chicago in order to expedite things along. Richard Shockey Director, Member of the Technical Staff NeuStar 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org=20 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651=20 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 =20 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7C8BC.A15DCA96 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from acpf02.ugd.att.com ([135.37.16.24]) by ACCLUST02EVS1.ugd.att.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 21 May 2007 15:50:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C79BE1.51764200" Received: from ocfe02.ugd.att.com ([135.38.164.17]) by acpf02.ugd.att.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 21 May 2007 15:50:42 -0400 Received: from flph133.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com ([144.160.128.151]) by ocfe02.ugd.att.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 21 May 2007 14:50:41 -0500 Received: from enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by flph133.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4LJoe4o012891; Mon, 21 May 2007 12:50:40 -0700 Received: from mail121.messagelabs.com (mail121.messagelabs.com [216.82.241.195]) by flph133.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l4LJoZIK012822; Mon, 21 May 2007 12:50:36 -0700 Received: (qmail 32310 invoked from network); 21 May 2007 19:50:34 -0000 Received: from stiedprmman1.ietf.org (HELO megatron.ietf.org) (156.154.16.145) by server-10.tower-121.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 May 2007 19:50:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HqDtT-0007X4-18; Mon, 21 May 2007 15:50:11 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HqDtL-0007Ud-Qj; Mon, 21 May 2007 15:50:03 -0400 Received: from ns0.neustar.com ([156.154.16.158]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HqDtK-000660-NS; Mon, 21 May 2007 15:50:03 -0400 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns0.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D48F32932; Mon, 21 May 2007 19:50:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HqDtK-0002XY-H8; Mon, 21 May 2007 15:50:02 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: [Enum] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-enum-reqs-04.txt Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 15:50:02 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Enum] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-enum-reqs-04.txt Thread-Index: Aceb4VJljCad0S6gQb2jGwPgXs3ofQ== List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , From: To: Cc: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_002_01C79BE1.51764200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20 directories. This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF. Title : Infrastructure ENUM Requirements Author(s) : S. Lind, P. Pfautz Filename : draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-enum-reqs-04.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2007-5-21 =09 This document provides requirements for "infrastructure" or "carrier" ENUM (E.164 Number Mapping), defined as the use of RFC 3761 technology to facilitate interconnection of networks for E.164 number addressed services, in particular but not restricted to VoIP (Voice over IP.) A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-enum- reqs-04.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to=20 i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of=20 the message.=20 You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce=20 to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:14:56 -0400 Received: from mail.songbird.com ([208.184.79.10]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAvJn-0001F2-Av for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:14:56 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l6HMENsT004900 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:14:25 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: "'PFAUTZ, PENN L, ATTCORP'" , References: <016701c7c8b3$d6d6efe0$8484cfa0$@us> <34DA635B184A644DA4588E260EC0A25A0FE33B56@ACCLUST02EVS1.ugd.att.com> In-Reply-To: <34DA635B184A644DA4588E260EC0A25A0FE33B56@ACCLUST02EVS1.ugd.att.com> Subject: RE: [Enum] Additional Agenda Item for Chicago .. Infrastructure ENUMdocument status Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:13:24 -0400 Message-ID: <004601c7c8bf$b3b76d80$1b264880$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcfIs9OC2NQp5ehvTxifh6PnpT9pLQABz6WwAAEciHA= Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e8a67952aa972b528dd04570d58ad8fe Cc: 'Cullen Jennings' , "'Peterson, Jon'" X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org -----Original Message----- From: PFAUTZ, PENN L, ATTCORP [mailto:ppfautz@att.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:51 PM To: Richard Shockey; enum@ietf.org Cc: Cullen Jennings; Peterson, Jon Subject: RE: [Enum] Additional Agenda Item for Chicago .. Infrastructure ENUMdocument status Rich: I believe there has been a new draft of the infrastructure ENUM requirements I-D for a while (draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-enum-reqs-04.txt, 5/21) that addressed the last round of ISEG comments (I saw a couple of position changes in the I-D tracker) and the document passed to AD follow-up. Is there something else that needs to be done? RS> That is what we need to finalize in Chicago. I am trying to work with my co-authors on the draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure document to get a revision. That document was mentioned as clearly needing a revision based on Jon's comments. Penn Pfautz AT&T National Access Management +1-732-420-4962 -----Original Message----- From: Richard Shockey [mailto:richard@shockey.us] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:48 PM To: enum@ietf.org Cc: 'Cullen Jennings'; 'Peterson,Jon' Subject: [Enum] Additional Agenda Item for Chicago .. Infrastructure ENUMdocument status In discussions with our AD Mr. Peterson there seems to be confusion on what the status of the 4 documents that represent the Infrastructure ENUM drafts. They are all basically waiting for revised drafts which is holding up "other matters". We will need to discuss the status of these documents in Chicago in order to expedite things along. Richard Shockey Director, Member of the Technical Staff NeuStar 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 18 09:24:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IB9VQ-00045z-FW; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:23:52 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IB9VN-00045e-9k for enum@ietf.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:23:49 -0400 Received: from nat.labs.nic.at ([83.136.33.3] helo=labs.nic.at) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IB9VL-0000oJ-Kh for enum@ietf.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:23:49 -0400 Received: from lendl by labs.nic.at with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1IB9VD-0005yL-00; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:23:39 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:23:39 +0200 From: Otmar Lendl To: Richard Shockey Subject: Re: [Enum] Additional Agenda Item for Chicago .. Infrastructure ENUM document status Message-ID: <20070718132338.GB22443@nic.at> Mail-Followup-To: Otmar Lendl , Richard Shockey , enum@ietf.org, 'Cullen Jennings' , "'Peterson, Jon'" References: <016701c7c8b3$d6d6efe0$8484cfa0$@us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <016701c7c8b3$d6d6efe0$8484cfa0$@us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 Cc: enum@ietf.org, 'Cullen Jennings' , "'Peterson, Jon'" X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org On 2007/07/17 22:07, Richard Shockey wrote: > In discussions with our AD Mr. Peterson there seems to be confusion on what > the status of the 4 documents that represent the Infrastructure ENUM drafts. > > They are all basically waiting for revised drafts which is holding up "other > matters". > > We will need to discuss the status of these documents in Chicago in order to > expedite things along. I've revisited my mail-exchange with Jon regarding his AD-review of the combined+EBL draft where he raised some very valid points. Given the evolution of these drafts, which first added features (from a simple "insert label at position X" to "search the DNS for a new RRTYPE containing 3 fields") and then removed some of them ("no more tree-walking"), it was legitimate to revisit some of the design choices which led to the current design. This is late in the game, and way too late to get a new draft into the archives by monday, nevertheless I think it is worthwhile for this WG to spend some time on this again. Rich, can you give me at least 15 mins of time for a presentation and discussion? /ol -- / Otmar Lendl , T: +43 1 5056416 - 33, F: - 933 \ | nic.at Internet Verwaltungs- und Betriebsgesellschaft m.b.H | \ http://www.nic.at/ LG Salzburg, FN 172568b, Sitz: Salzburg / _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 18 10:08:34 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBACe-0005mQ-3G; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:08:32 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBACb-0005mH-SW for enum@ietf.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:08:29 -0400 Received: from mail.songbird.com ([208.184.79.10]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBACZ-00031U-Bj for enum@ietf.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:08:29 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l6IE8CR1024692 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:08:13 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: "'Otmar Lendl'" References: <016701c7c8b3$d6d6efe0$8484cfa0$@us> <20070718132338.GB22443@nic.at> In-Reply-To: <20070718132338.GB22443@nic.at> Subject: RE: [Enum] Additional Agenda Item for Chicago- REVISED AGANDA Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:07:08 -0400 Message-ID: <02dd01c7c944$f0200d60$d0602820$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-index: AcfJPt04dUaK/eO+S6Kxvf5h1BGNTAABYVjA Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 36b1f8810cb91289d885dc8ab4fc8172 Cc: enum@ietf.org, 'Cullen Jennings' , "'Peterson, Jon'" X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org I've revisited my mail-exchange with Jon regarding his AD-review of the combined+EBL draft where he raised some very valid points. RS> I agree I think it is vitally important that we address these comments on all the relevant drafts so Jon can present the suite to the IESG-IAB for further consideration and action ASAP. Given the evolution of these drafts, which first added features (from a simple "insert label at position X" to "search the DNS for a new RRTYPE containing 3 fields") and then removed some of them ("no more tree-walking"), it was legitimate to revisit some of the design choices which led to the current design. This is late in the game, and way too late to get a new draft into the archives by monday, nevertheless I think it is worthwhile for this WG to spend some time on this again. Rich, can you give me at least 15 mins of time for a presentation and discussion? RS>> DONE FINAL FINAL - REVISED July 18 IETF 69 Chicago Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) WG Agenda Chair(s): Patrik Faltstrom Richard Shockey WG Secretary: Alexander Mayrhofer RAI Director(s): Jon Peterson jon.peterson@neustar.biz Cullen Jennings fluffy@cisco.com RAI Area Advisor: Jon Peterson jon.peterson@neustar.biz MONDAY 1500-1520 Afternoon Beverage and Snack Break I - Fourth Floor Exhibition Hall 1520-1720 Afternoon Session II Monroe INT intarea Internet Area Open Meeting Salon 2 IRTF eme End Middle End Research Group Crystal OPS nee Netconf Extensions and Evolution BOF Grand Ballroom RAI enum Telephone Number Mapping WG Adams RAI avt Audio/Video Transport WG State Ballroom RTG pce Path Computation Element WG Salon 3 SEC dkim Agenda Bashing. Note addition of ENUM Infrastructure 1. Status of Drafts and in Drafts the Queue Overview - Alexander Mayhofer WG Secretary 10 2. Review status RFC 3761bis update. Scott Bradner ( Discussion of work plan.) 15- 20 3. Review of existing drafts 3a Finishing up Infrastructure ENUM revisions and status - Otmar Lendl - 15 + M 3b Chairs Notes: Focus discussion the Guide and Template draft in order to use for the MGCP service application. Bernie Hoeneisen - Leading Discussion 20+ Title : Guide and Template for IANA Registrations of Enumservices Author(s) : J. Livingood, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-04.txt Pages : 19 This document provides a guide to and template for the creation of new IANA registration of ENUM (E.164 Number Mapping) services. It is also to be used for updates of existing IANA registrations. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-04.tx t 3c. Registration of Enumservices for experimental, private or trial use draft-hoeneisen-enum-x-service-regs-00.txt http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hoeneisen-enum-x-service-regs-00.txt 4. Title : Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) Service Registration for MGCP Author(s) : C. Bo, et al. Filename : draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-01.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2007-6-28 MGCP decomposes a multimedia gateway into two parts, a call agent and a media gateway, thus brings greater extensibility and makes it easy to construct a large-scale VoIP network. This document registers the MGCP Enumservice according to the guidelines given in RFC 3761 [3].This kind of Enumservice is mainly applied in Carrier Networks. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-00.txt 5. Title : ENUM-based Softswitch Requirement Author(s) : J. Lim, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-softswitch-req-01.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2007-4-30 This document describes experiences of operational requirements and several considerations for ENUM-based softswitches concerning call routing between two Korean VoIP carriers, gained during the ENUM pre- commercial trial hosted by National Internet Development Agency of Korea (NIDA) in 2006. These experiences show that an interim solution can maintain the stability of on-going commercial softswitch system operations during the initial stage of ENUM service, where the DNS does not have sufficient data for the majority of calls. 6. So long and thanks for all the fish? _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 18 10:11:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBAFk-0000bB-GN; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:11:44 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBAFg-0000aw-Hl for enum@ietf.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:11:40 -0400 Received: from mail.songbird.com ([208.184.79.10]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBAFf-0003Dp-4R for enum@ietf.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:11:40 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l6IEBMSP025372 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:11:23 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:10:20 -0400 Message-ID: <030501c7c945$61117950$23346bf0$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-index: AcfJRWA1ag4zC08ETpaxrlqTvQKYwA== Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cf4fa59384e76e63313391b70cd0dd25 Subject: [Enum] reminder on presentation materials for Monday X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org The sooner Alexander or I get your powerpoints the happier we will both be. Richard Shockey Director, Member of the Technical Staff NeuStar 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 18 12:13:44 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBC9j-0004X6-Dv; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:13:39 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBC9f-0004Vv-KX for enum@ietf.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:13:35 -0400 Received: from mail.songbird.com ([208.184.79.10]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBC9e-0005YC-Pz for enum@ietf.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:13:35 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l6IGCpeY022529 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:12:52 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: Subject: GO to WGLC ?FW: [Enum] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-enum-iax-03.txt Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:11:49 -0400 Message-ID: <03b001c7c956$622c0150$268403f0$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-index: AcfFeciQ3Q/b6JbZTHO0X26MMtOnnQD3BHrQ Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c0bedb65cce30976f0bf60a0a39edea4 Cc: 'Alexander Mayrhofer' X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org I looked at this and it looks "good to go" are there any other comments on this ? I think a NITS review is in order. I see only one contingent dependency which is in an advanced state. -----Original Message----- From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org [mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 2:15 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-enum-iax-03.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF. Title : IANA Registration for IAX Enumservice Author(s) : E. Guy Filename : draft-ietf-enum-iax-03.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2007-7-13 This document registers the IAX2 (Inter-Asterisk eXchange Version 2) Enumservice using the URI scheme 'iax2:' as per the IANA registration process defined in the ENUM specification RFC3761. 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Patrik _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 23 15:15:12 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ID3N7-0001BW-7Z; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:15:09 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ID3N0-0000r2-R1; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:15:02 -0400 Received: from ns4.neustar.com ([156.154.24.139]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ID3N0-00073Y-D0; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:15:02 -0400 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns4.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340B82ACB2; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:15:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ID3Mz-0005P5-VH; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:15:01 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:15:01 -0400 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 73734d43604d52d23b3eba644a169745 Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-enum-uri-01.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF. Title : The Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) DNS Resource Record Author(s) : P. Faltstrom, O. Kolkman Filename : draft-ietf-enum-uri-01.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2007-7-23 This document defines a new DNS resource record, called the Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) RR, for publishing mappings from hostnames to URIs. The next version of this draft should NOT be a work item of the ENUM wg, but instead an individual submission of name draft-faltstrom-rrtype-uri-00.txt. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-uri-01.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-23144822.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-uri-01.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-enum-uri-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-23144822.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum --NextPart-- From enum-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 23 17:30:43 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ID5UB-0001eH-2D; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:30:35 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ID5U9-0001dg-Vg for enum@ietf.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:30:34 -0400 Received: from norman.insensate.co.uk ([213.152.49.123] helo=insensate.co.uk) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ID5U9-000324-H1 for enum@ietf.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:30:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by insensate.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC5CBEBE8 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:30:32 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2E171FDE-D20E-4A49-A28B-806200E4CB10@insensate.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: enum WG From: lconroy Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:30:21 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f Subject: [Enum] Guidlines document - classification X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Hi Folks, listening in to the audio stream, I note that the protocol class works without URI sub-types IF and only IF any machine/node/client MUST implement all of the URIs - in that case it's a negotiation issue. There's no need to "look right" in the NAPTR, as you know that the client will be able to handle whatever it finds. However, I do wonder about small devices - can you be sure that a low power cell phone with a SIP stack can handle sips: as well as sip: ? For future Enumservices, the choice of "no subtype ever needed" should only be taken if you're really really sure that ANY client can handle any possible URI scheme. all the best, Lawrence _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 23 18:17:07 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ID6D9-00036h-K7; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:17:03 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ID6D8-000357-Hc for enum@ietf.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:17:02 -0400 Received: from ebru.winwebhosting.com ([74.52.236.50]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ID6D7-00042B-Tw for enum@ietf.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:17:02 -0400 Received: from [209.173.53.233] (helo=BROSLT41xp) by ebru.winwebhosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ID6Cu-0007xZ-G5 for enum@ietf.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:16:48 -0500 From: "Brian Rosen" To: References: <008901c7c4ba$b6bb0720$24311560$@us> Subject: RE: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-01.txt Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:16:58 -0400 Message-ID: <01bc01c7cd77$31436090$94168182@cis.neustar.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcfEuPeTXKAiFnJ/TaueFcROYuxE0AAAbWFgAi6MP2A= In-Reply-To: <008901c7c4ba$b6bb0720$24311560$@us> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ebru.winwebhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - brianrosen.net X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8de5f93cb2b4e3bee75302e9eacc33db X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org I do not understand the use case for this enumservice. MGCP requires the device (MG) to register with the MGC (RestartInProgress). The MGC then knows everything about the device at that point. This proposal doesn't describe how one domain finds the MGC, it describes how the MGC finds the MG. But the MGCP ReatartInProgress does that. This enumservice would have to be used within a single domain; MGCP is not used between domains. The only thing this enumservice could do is provide a locally standardized way to map a TN to an MG. It is not clear, and the draft does not say, what the value in having such a standard useful in a single domain could be. The market has certainly not seemed to need this kind of capability standardized; MGCs have proprietary mappings between TN and MG identity. I am at a loss to see what the value is. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Shockey [mailto:richard@shockey.us] > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:28 PM > To: enum@ietf.org > Subject: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-01.txt > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org [mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org] > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:15 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-01.txt > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > > Title : Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) Service > Registration for MGCP > Author(s) : C. Bo, et al. > Filename : draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-01.txt > Pages : 15 > Date : 2007-7-12 > > MGCP decomposes a multimedia gateway into two parts, a call agent and > a media gateway,thus brings greater extensibility and makes it easy > to construct a large-scale VoIP network. This document registers the > MGCP Enumservice according to the guidelines given in RFC 3761.This > kind of Enumservice is mainly applied in Carrier Networks. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chenbo-enum-mgcp-01.txt > > To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to > i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of > the message. > You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce > to change your subscription settings. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the > username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Different MIME-compliant mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > how to manipulate these messages. > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. > > > _______________________________________________ > enum mailing list > enum@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 23 21:40:44 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ID9OC-0000jF-5p; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:40:40 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 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information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0ddefe323dd869ab027dbfff7eff0465 Subject: [Enum] FW: Last Call: draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis (Guidelines for Writing an IANA Considerations Section in RFCs) to BCP X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org As per yesterday's discussion this is the relevant guidance document for IANA registrations though I think we made significant progress on the basic issues. IMHO .. A. No RFC needed. B. expert review person appointed by IESG ... separate mailing list. C. Time limit on review by expert. I'm thinking no more than 90 to 120 days. D. Single document encompassing scope structure and procedure. E. IANA experts are willing to assist with review etc. -----Original Message----- From: The IESG [mailto:iesg-secretary@ietf.org] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:07 PM To: IETF-Announce Subject: Last Call: draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis (Guidelines for Writing an IANA Considerations Section in RFCs) to BCP The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Guidelines for Writing an IANA Considerations Section in RFCs' as a BCP The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2007-08-17. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-25122118.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-01.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-25122118.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum --NextPart-- From enum-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 26 11:20:13 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE58H-0005jo-5C; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:20:05 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE58F-0005j2-V8 for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:20:03 -0400 Received: from mail.songbird.com ([208.184.79.10]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE58F-0007We-ES for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:20:03 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (dhcp-14a3.ietf69.org [130.129.20.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l6QFJmJh003825 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:19:49 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:19:53 -0400 Message-ID: <002e01c7cf98$6b713b70$4253b250$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcfPmGqx4YxOKk2uQuOGXKVmPKuhJg== Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d6aff76b15f3f56fcb94490e1052e4 Subject: [Enum] Review of enumservice unused X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org It is the desire of the authors to continue to progress this document there has been some WG review and comments incorporated from various WG meetings. I'd like to ask the WG to take some time here to reread this document ASAP so we can make a judgement on how and when we can go to WGLC. A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF. Title : IANA Registration for Enumservice UNUSED Author(s) : R. Stastny, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-unused-02.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2007-3-28 This document registers the Enumservice "unused" using the URI scheme "data:" as per the IANA registration process defined in the ENUM specification, RFC 3761. This Enumservice may be used to indicate that the E.164 number (or E.164 number range) tied to the domain in which the enclosing NAPTR is published is not allocated or assigned for communications service. When such an indication is provided, an ENUM client can detect calls that will fail "early". A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-unused-02.txt Richard Shockey Director, Member of the Technical Staff NeuStar 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 26 11:41:51 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE5TJ-0006jC-EZ; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:41:49 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE5TH-0006gK-WD for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:41:48 -0400 Received: from nat.labs.nic.at ([83.136.33.3] helo=labs.nic.at) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE5TH-0008QI-Ep for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:41:47 -0400 Received: from lendl by labs.nic.at with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1IE5TG-0000Ea-00 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:41:46 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:41:46 +0200 From: Otmar Lendl To: enum@ietf.org Message-ID: <20070726154145.GA32226@nic.at> Mail-Followup-To: Otmar Lendl , enum@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Subject: [Enum] New version of the I-ENUM combined draft submitted X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Folks, based on the hums in this week's WG session here at IETF69 we have updated the I-ENUM combined draft to drop the EBL and use simple, fixed branches using "i" accoring to the ITU E.164 allocations. The draft is on the way to the archives, meanwhile you can get a copy fresh off the xml2rfc press from http://www.enum.at/ietf/draft-ietf-enum-combined-06.txt Given all the delays regarding this proposal, I hope we can get this document out of the WG as soon as possible. So if you plan to read and comment on it, please do so before the post-IETF lull sets in. Cheers, /ol -- / Otmar Lendl , T: +43 1 5056416 - 33, F: - 933 \ | nic.at Internet Verwaltungs- und Betriebsgesellschaft m.b.H | \ http://www.nic.at/ LG Salzburg, FN 172568b, Sitz: Salzburg / _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 26 12:15:43 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE603-00020Z-Qo; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:15:39 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE5zx-0001xo-5p; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:15:33 -0400 Received: from ns3.neustar.com ([156.154.24.138]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE5zw-0000wB-Ml; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:15:33 -0400 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns3.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA6F175F6; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:15:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IE5zS-0005B3-0t; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:15:02 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:15:02 -0400 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b7b9551d71acde901886cc48bfc088a6 Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-enum-combined-06.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF. Title : Combined User and Infrastructure ENUM in the e164.arpa tree Author(s) : M. Haberler, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-combined-06.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2007-7-26 This memo defines an interim solution for Infrastructure ENUM to allow a combined User and Infrastructure ENUM implementation in e164.arpa as a national choice until the long-term solution is approved. This interim solution will be deprecated after approval of the long-term solution. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-combined-06.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-26113315.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-combined-06.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-enum-combined-06.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2007-7-26113315.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum --NextPart-- From enum-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 26 12:28:56 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE6Ct-0002Qj-8i; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:28:55 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE6Cr-0002PC-R4 for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:28:53 -0400 Received: from fardach.bofh.priv.at ([88.198.34.164] helo=mail.bofh.priv.at) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE6Cq-00038d-EE for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:28:53 -0400 Received: by mail.bofh.priv.at (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D87D34DC1A; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:28:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:28:51 +0200 From: Otmar Lendl To: enum@ietf.org Message-ID: <20070726162851.GM18119@bofh.priv.at> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Subject: [Enum] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-01.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org On 2007/07/25 19:07, Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > Title : The E.164 to Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI) Dynamic Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) Application (ENUM) > Author(s) : P. Faltstrom > Filename : draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-01.txt > Pages : 18 > Date : 2007-7-25 What's the status of this document? A quick check shows that this seems to be basically the same as -00 with just the formatting errors fixed. Was this just re-submitted to keep it from expiring, or is the content (especially the U-ENUM/I-ENUM co-existence ideas) still on the table? I thought we thoroughly shot that down the last time. /ol _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 26 12:47:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE6UN-0002f4-8V; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:46:59 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE6UK-0002cl-OM for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:46:57 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com ([171.71.176.117]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IE6UK-0002Ov-BK for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:46:56 -0400 Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2007 09:46:55 -0700 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAKxsqEarR7PD/2dsb2JhbAA X-IronPort-AV: i="4.16,584,1175497200"; d="scan'208"; a="189137626:sNHT26704764" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l6QGktJK006617; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:46:55 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id l6QGkt6E017387; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:46:55 GMT Received: from xfe-sjc-212.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.187]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:46:54 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([171.68.225.134]) by xfe-sjc-212.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:46:54 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20070726162851.GM18119@bofh.priv.at> References: <20070726162851.GM18119@bofh.priv.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <203F5A40-5100-421E-9476-D26920CB220A@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= Subject: Re: [Enum] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-01.txt Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:46:49 -0700 To: Otmar Lendl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2007 16:46:54.0113 (UTC) FILETIME=[92669110:01C7CFA4] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1397; t=1185468415; x=1186332415; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=paf@cisco.com; z=From:=20=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=3DE4ltstr=3DF6m?=3D=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[Enum]=20Re=3A=20I-D=20ACTION=3Adraft-ietf-enum-3761b is-01.txt |Sender:=20; bh=dn/qc+P4mtvjKCxJwvxmVu5Izo4jJahHLNea0f/Gbck=; b=GFKa/8UZJE9tWJh7e+AXR4IT6Zk2wzk8hKt8Fyp+6khs4HmOCdwybrHJN0CK48kaKi9nfE0F E3c4wB4qo+fnLe7UIdiDwVRnizIhzwTcLQwU/rLJghcelHAQcifwCOHr; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=paf@cisco.com; dkim=pass (sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 69a74e02bbee44ab4f8eafdbcedd94a1 Cc: enum@ietf.org X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org On 26 jul 2007, at 09.28, Otmar Lendl wrote: > On 2007/07/25 19:07, Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> >> Title : The E.164 to Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI) Dynamic >> Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) Application (ENUM) >> Author(s) : P. Faltstrom >> Filename : draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-01.txt >> Pages : 18 >> Date : 2007-7-25 > > What's the status of this document? > > A quick check shows that this seems to be basically the same as -00 > with just the formatting errors fixed. > > Was this just re-submitted to keep it from expiring, or is the > content (especially the U-ENUM/I-ENUM co-existence ideas) still > on the table? > > I thought we thoroughly shot that down the last time. It was just resubmitted due to risk of expiration while we change main editor of the document. It was NOT to show any kind of ignorance on the comments sent in. That said, because we change editor of the document, when you start seeing the new versions, it MIGHT be the case that some conclusions and agreements we have have been forgotten, so please point out the things we have missed, while still not throwing us overboard. I.e. you did the right thing to ask this time. Do the same for things you are missing in future versions. The goal is to get things going again, and not stalling due to me not having time to type. Patrik _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 31 10:45:23 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IFsyI-0002EC-FZ; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:45:14 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IFsyH-0002E1-18 for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:45:13 -0400 Received: from mail.songbird.com ([208.184.79.10]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IFsyG-00049X-Gz for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:45:12 -0400 Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l6VEivg2009836 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:44:58 -0700 From: "Richard Shockey" To: Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:45:03 -0400 Message-ID: <06c801c7d381$622fa500$268eef00$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aca3xY1iIc3tIYqQTKyYngbYZG9Jtg== Content-Language: en-us X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 02ec665d00de228c50c93ed6b5e4fc1a Cc: 'Cullen Jennings' , =?iso-8859-1?Q?'=22Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m=22'?= , "'Peterson, Jon'" Subject: [Enum] ENUM Working Group Last Call on document enum combined 06 X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: richard@shockey.us List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org As we discussed in Chicago the following document has had a significant revision which we reviewed and gained consensus on. Since the revision is significant we need to issue a new last call. This document and the revisions based on AD review to the quartet of Infrastructure ENUM documents should complete WG actions on this matter. Title : Combined User and Infrastructure ENUM in the e164.arpa tree Author(s) : M. Haberler, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-combined-06.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2007-7-26 This memo defines an interim solution for Infrastructure ENUM to allow a combined User and Infrastructure ENUM implementation in e164.arpa as a national choice until the long-term solution is approved. This interim solution will be deprecated after approval of the long-term solution. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-combined-06.txt The intent of the last call is to solicit comments before submitting the ID to the IESG as a Proposed Standard. The purpose of a working group Last Call is in the style of "speak now or forever hold your peace" in case there are fundamental objections which have not gotten previous or adequate discussion, or minor errors which need correction. Work group last call will extend for 2 weeks or so from today July 31 though August 15we can modify that if new issues come up. 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This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF. Title : The E.164 to Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI) Dynamic Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) Application for Infrastructure ENUM Author(s) : J. Livingood, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-06.txt Pages : 6 Date : 2007-7-31 This document defines the use case for Infrastructure ENUM and proposes its implementation as a parallel namespace to "e164.arpa" as defined in RFC3761, as the long-term solution to the problem of allowing carriers to provision DNS records for telephone numbers independently of those provisioned by end users (number assignees). A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-06.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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