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Several of us had tasks coming out of the last meeting. I have two spec-edit PRs up. Just making sure this effort is still a thing. Greg ------=_Part_2153280_625451809.1622890069366 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I haven't seen any activity lately.  Not on GitHub or in the mailing list.

Several of us had tasks coming out of the last meeting.

I have two spec-edit PRs up.

Just making sure this effort is still a thing.

Greg
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Sat, 5 Jun 2021 11:33:41 +0000 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2021 11:33:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Greg Dennis To: "jsonpath@ietf.org" Message-ID: <891356856.1907825.1622892820604@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1907824_1856779986.1622892820603" References: <891356856.1907825.1622892820604.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.18368 YMailNorrin Archived-At: Subject: [Jsonpath] Existing framework support for JSONPath in .Net X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2021 11:33:46 -0000 ------=_Part_1907824_1856779986.1622892820603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looks like there may be some existing built-in support in .Net for JSONPath. https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/31068 I've asked for some additional details. If we can get Microsoft's backing on this, maybe it will go a bit faster. Greg ------=_Part_1907824_1856779986.1622892820603 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Looks like there may be some existing built-in support in .Net for JSONPath.


I've asked for some additional details.

If we can get Microsoft's backing on this, maybe it will go a bit faster.

Greg
------=_Part_1907824_1856779986.1622892820603-- From nobody Sat Jun 5 04:54:20 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23BB3A2065 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2021 04:54:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IRMFZynNFvQg for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2021 04:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E15353A2066 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2021 04:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dcc89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Fxyhy4fL9z2xGt; Sat, 5 Jun 2021 13:54:10 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <1389186721.2153281.1622890069367@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2021 13:54:10 +0200 Cc: "jsonpath@ietf.org" X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 644586850.203446-86ab235a6206d4b7fd7767c72674747a Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1389186721.2153281.1622890069367.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1389186721.2153281.1622890069367@mail.yahoo.com> To: Greg Dennis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] Seems quiet X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2021 11:54:19 -0000 On 2021-06-05, at 12:47, Greg Dennis = wrote: >=20 > I haven't seen any activity lately. Not on GitHub or in the mailing = list. >=20 > Several of us had tasks coming out of the last meeting. >=20 > I have two spec-edit PRs up. >=20 > Just making sure this effort is still a thing. Hi Greg, I=E2=80=99ve slowed down supplying input as I can=E2=80=99t really = justify spending a lot more time on editorial issues. If we actually = want to do technical work, I=E2=80=99m game. You should have noticed = that I supplied the iregexp draft [1], and it would be good to get some = feedback before I submit the next version. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Sat Jun 5 04:57:03 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CF43A207C for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2021 04:57:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H4y-B1yd9bUj for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2021 04:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A656B3A207A for ; 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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ... had other priorities ... will start coming week ... -- sg Am 05.06.2021 um 12:47 schrieb Greg Dennis: > I haven't seen any activity lately.  Not on GitHub or in the mailing list. > > Several of us had tasks coming out of the last meeting. > > I have two spec-edit PRs up. > > Just making sure this effort is still a thing. > > Greg > > > Virenfrei. www.avg.com > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > --------------D5D6E21046700B8F4FB49EB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ... had other priorities ... will start coming week ...
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Am 05.06.2021 um 12:47 schrieb Greg Dennis:
I haven't seen any activity lately.  Not on GitHub or in the mailing list.

Several of us had tasks coming out of the last meeting.

I have two spec-edit PRs up.

Just making sure this effort is still a thing.

Greg

Virenfrei. www.avg.com


--------------D5D6E21046700B8F4FB49EB0-- From nobody Sun Jun 6 00:27:55 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5183A0CCC for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2021 00:27:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.885 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.885 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_REMOTE_IMAGE=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fraG5hMuIR-h for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2021 00:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EBB73A0CC8 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2021 00:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([88.130.51.64]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mzhzd-1lU7Y62unZ-00vdim for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2021 09:27:43 +0200 To: jsonpath@ietf.org References: <891356856.1907825.1622892820604.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <891356856.1907825.1622892820604@mail.yahoo.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_G=c3=b6ssner?= Message-ID: <486da656-1606-18f8-0807-2f9b5e0ef670@goessner.net> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 09:27:50 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <891356856.1907825.1622892820604@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------B468AD9F6095CC392DDA8C22" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ROPozZl+AanJl8oum7jMgePCt4olffywyGJMCEcLtM1qzjo68dW WPWr7XWuBG+CtrbSZkcihfD/3fLmyksYJMClOoISzPxJTOPfP5Uu9Vw5IwJz4uAHAM0di43 VviHCFBNhit8YHQTBRJ95p1D5F3ap4L7Fc5QeCcqngUWIAN1PFIM2X0yZaSv3hFdSfWBSk2 1bXrF2KEzlgmGGrbPaImw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:CVVR7cwdmPk=:QJAJ1sZtmaIg65ri7kyGIS Y0D2hpjqevVwJ3za+I3QcWDiXlel14xcIEpOAhA0eQyhaC5m402/k2qhrtSqhUUi4wIzmt9V7 vM60aXwx+oZ9PVNOE/nwB7nE3gwVvRFKibitl12cNl0YGKdrHZRkJWZORnfNbS2FB85kDosHF 4bF2Jow4CCErYlkRVKiCYIdn5QVTU8ckxv/uvKlVvewEkmDu8XKP512sLSDH87bG0Sqyz512t 8xUxOJTvTWf7S1JIAzp+VyZTZIsyE0e1BZnxpOC+rwff9VBYXlamXTxLVrdZmgd7N3B3aP2SW aE8Yr7Be4g9Lg3TKJU8ww1ZPa3foLZf7Tjzk6nbOHha5H9452J13cbxNBllQqRkOXaQVzFTNf hxGmGEI+VnBFd4xrfVp/lD3Sw8tKRSfPC2AlqsB5y2B6+Bd5iSMvIirUUxSZsuniDYxGN/SGL H5RBgoZsuEnePGzBeAKTYKlyTdpc42+Kci3mW0P9F6ujF3uoJKEfYWk7aI0QDd04M+xaMiNb/ PKo67IWxPeP1mq+wXBEixU= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] Existing framework support for JSONPath in .Net X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2021 07:27:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B468AD9F6095CC392DDA8C22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ... this is in fact very interesting ... well done Greg ... -- sg Am 05.06.2021 um 13:33 schrieb Greg Dennis: > Looks like there may be some existing built-in support in .Net for > JSONPath. > > https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/31068 > > > I've asked for some additional details. > > If we can get Microsoft's backing on this, maybe it will go a bit faster. > > Greg > > > Virenfrei. www.avg.com > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > --------------B468AD9F6095CC392DDA8C22 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ... this is in fact very interesting ... well done Greg ...
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Am 05.06.2021 um 13:33 schrieb Greg Dennis:
Looks like there may be some existing built-in support in .Net for JSONPath.


I've asked for some additional details.

If we can get Microsoft's backing on this, maybe it will go a bit faster.

Greg

Virenfrei. www.avg.com


--------------B468AD9F6095CC392DDA8C22-- From nobody Tue Jun 8 09:14:31 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EADA3A3553 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 09:14:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KERbIPp2wIcK for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 09:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A3B53A3551 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 09:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([88.130.51.43]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MlfL0-1l7zxe3d8k-00ingd for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 18:14:21 +0200 To: jsonpath@ietf.org From: =?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_G=c3=b6ssner?= Message-ID: <9c35ad83-6dfe-16eb-e2d8-243b4b3fdc2d@goessner.net> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 18:14:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0D3F301C87335ABC2F132DC4" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:8nfXczxVu4H9HPsY6C+dqKXRQUIB3iXN+tEMtH5Gf4fxa6AtT9w gcgG0eNqIUosw7YxTMvvzKBVKKraBADRxwMnEw45NH+MRwWG7tHOaPpZ8pFmQiy+v7yid6M YzOKnc4CTq4bZN8V42h1TU4FZOXGErvJh+tZp8VO6QeO2RslsvpUM1weqHn2/RLkPBxJKIj OmtBjjftYJ6+DxyMAp+bg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:RQ57Zih8Jss=:r7aReZcNJnPc3F5CP7e7LK mSnljQvxsTLRZXGwJ+5wcfZHjt2l2EZb0rMHwnlyKWyyk4N4AUPuK+hD6OqWRoZ0mVxjGJ/0K wgWj4MilcxYbiSMEzqmxhT6j0DvxRcUxU6YUSh1OVEcpWTY7WNXqRMhDXyokkJtouOS6+D9iW CV+6f8TWw4HARHeGHT2JlZ7qpR/mvtITQvpCqNxF99d0CtpqzSfruHBVMdEKp/Uq4DFsUF3V8 aNJMCKU8UnK+WxDS77VY/uvB4wmWKTvfd50YwBlY1LBp0ajzy3rhX84KjoU+KjjIP/7VE62Uo rATjI8To7gE0wClNJvxGAsqxk3aUEGGWLm9qksRTRkN48NjSn1oKEmZNelZju63EoX32Hj/XZ 232Y8jibKUspfGGG0Ki0OYN1lRPep6YAgVNy5eFo1+rmg7uW5T8pUpeirbiUcCgDffRRw7F5I pMouRFv0Ac5RfdxospFzoLoQRv49zUzpnTExpea5yTg2yAjROSe84Pe03p3el/JAHJgC/N8qH ++eKP6ZsTjYXFP6foLKduOisjLTmGsrYi1RPRCydK8G Archived-At: Subject: [Jsonpath] Markdown Editing with VSCode ... X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2021 16:14:30 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0D3F301C87335ABC2F132DC4 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------2102A3367B87E03786CFF74B" --------------2102A3367B87E03786CFF74B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I cloned the Gihub repository and started editing draft-ietf-jsonpath-base.md. I was wondering why the VSCode Markdown preview was not functioning and simply black. Later found out, that a terminating line `---` was missing at the end of the /Frontmatter/ metadata section. Now it works like a charme. I also repaired the JSONPath / XPath comparison table. cheers -- sg --------------2102A3367B87E03786CFF74B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I cloned the Gihub repository and started editing draft-ietf-jsonpath-base.md.

I was wondering why the VSCode Markdown preview was not functioning and simply black. Later found out, that a terminating line

`---`

was missing at the end of the Frontmatter metadata section.

Now it works like a charme. I also repaired the JSONPath / XPath comparison table.

cheers
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X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2021 16:20:03 -0000 On 2021-06-08, at 18:14, Stefan G=C3=B6ssner = wrote: >=20 > Later found out, that a terminating line >=20 > `---` >=20 > was missing at the end of the Frontmatter metadata section. >=20 > Now it works like a charme. Kramdown-rfc currently does not support this terminating line (a = standard end for YAML would be `...`, which *is* supported.) Of course, I could change this, but for now this means that you can=E2=80=99= t build. Does `...` work in MS-vscode? 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Now documented in https://github.com/cabo/kramdown-rfc2629/wiki/Pitfalls#vscode Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Thu Jun 10 10:17:24 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9953E3A0D12 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 10:17:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FFS-zTmbNaZk for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 10:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DADB13A0D0F for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 10:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([88.130.51.77]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M5jA2-1lxS2W2hIY-007Hjo for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 19:17:18 +0200 To: jsonpath@ietf.org From: =?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_G=c3=b6ssner?= Message-ID: <4061cd79-10d9-f49f-ee0e-c4b5c8b5c69c@goessner.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 19:17:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C037FFDE1C0653447F7C43A3" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:sKQ1/b2nqLB4NKuVUrVAbsKPKO9jn8c9xZi/ZYwEy0TtG8Jb+4s yqbktf991L97G/GNpNMqviPeLOVUUDkxaQLdVwnYpMqK9jDBNYbQA80QCG1yp/5eLGRQDLW rLibiSsQtvdcG4lTb1NUGW8U5bJbyzBi7xkgHZ9HggUIKaDQWFxlXXOszK1TRyJF4Wl/sN1 xwwVfRX/oPpCcaGQoyhrw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:RPpAZcvFS1M=:vpbYgNkBVRqvIFSoGBYr7s Q8dfJ+HfN3JpdxfYltrIc/V5ES62+8mtKJWlRPk90KdPKuwwM8ULRWGW9tbG0pKenHFeuVh2I IX8xNVcEHt1g3tWLsYk9bDOybPFdOMb0f4k4qa3HPQRzYZgMrrJokqfopAnNsLYmbgOUA9faP 2yYY42ydT4BVxySzAAbI/hdyjFW8CnNKDVoA2Dey1L9DMTwQhclzB74P7g8PCaYBmsFR3cOKC RLB4AI9Dpzi/UtGCCDNW4bVE8Y76eo7+FVaHqt7SRc7M2MOm2tGYJe3qsC2jmhOufG8EE4E9g JGPr1l/OxJq1q2D10Pd1mkLCUnIzAyB3BknRkwj9+7mA9exuwFhR9+OdTFBIeAXlQuynOCuOg uHNz+ny/xBTGU1mhJOF0h3Q4tsCsVfv78pT7UkjpapjATJSVjlNOJbt7DI+9Mr/axxpCh80P5 l8fTogjCU72TFLrc0Y2DRxrt0m0QqxPMHgvOs5hAuQ0Cwcr4OSNOsZzIYmYZnujxsp7HfTbRi 2Xn984fiQUhwV6YU02aLxQ= Archived-At: Subject: [Jsonpath] PR regarding selectors ... 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I see quite a few action items there =E2=80=A6 if our meeting next week is going to be useful= , it would be nice to see some of the PRs submitted. Thanks to Stefan for getting this started - I think he needs help getting his PR untangled? On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 2:33 PM James wrote: > Thank you to all who attended our first interim meeting - the minutes > are available on Datatracker[1] however at time of writing this email > the recording is not yet on Youtube. > > The consensus and action points as I gathered: > > # Terminology - #84 > Consensus: Sticking with the term "node" implying the location and the > value > > Action: Greg to PR the terminology > > > # Relative Path Support - #59 > Consensus: Queries should not begin with @, but this is a natural > extension point. > > Action: Chairs to update the Github issue and allow for non-attendees to > reply > Action: Write an extensibility model > > > # Regular Expressions in Filters - #70 > Consensus: Regular expressions can be included once we have a specific > proposal > Consensus: Only permit literals in regular expressions > > Action: Carsten to attempt a PR > Action: Cover DoS in the security considerations of the document > > > # Duplicates in Selector output - #23 > Consensus: Duplicate removal won't be part of the document > > Action: Marko to write the descendants PR > > > # Filter Expressions - #64 > Action: Stefan to write PR > > If there are any questions or corrections please let me know. > > A poll for the June interim will be sent out soon. > > James & Tim > JSONPath Chairs > > > 1: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2021-jsonpath-01-2021051= 10900/ > > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath > --000000000000b0bb4b05c46ceff5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I r= eproduce the notes from our meeting last month.=C2=A0 I see quite a few act= ion items there =E2=80=A6 if our meeting next week is going to be useful, i= t would be nice to see some of the PRs submitted.=C2=A0 Thanks to Stefan fo= r getting this started - I think he needs help getting his PR untangled?

On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 2:33 PM James <james.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
Tha= nk you to all who attended our first interim meeting - the minutes
are available on Datatracker[1] however at time of writing this email
the recording is not yet on Youtube.

The consensus and action points as I gathered:

# Terminology - #84
Consensus: Sticking with the term "node" implying the location an= d the value

Action: Greg to PR the terminology


# Relative Path Support - #59
Consensus: Queries should not begin with @, but this is a natural
extension point.

Action: Chairs to update the Github issue and allow for non-attendees to reply
Action: Write an extensibility model


# Regular Expressions in Filters - #70
Consensus: Regular expressions can be included once we have a specific
proposal
Consensus: Only permit literals in regular expressions

Action: Carsten to attempt a PR
Action: Cover DoS in the security considerations of the document


# Duplicates in Selector output - #23
Consensus: Duplicate removal won't be part of the document

Action: Marko to write the descendants PR


# Filter Expressions - #64
Action: Stefan to write PR

If there are any questions or corrections please let me know.

A poll for the June interim will be sent out soon.

James & Tim
JSONPath Chairs


1:
https://datatracker.i= etf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2021-jsonpath-01-202105110900/

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=20 =20
...= had a hard time with this PR. Lost all changes ... luckily could recover them, thanks git.

PR finally failed ... help = needed.

I = fixed the YAML nit in PR #99.

Unfortunately, the build is confused about = branches; I need to find out why.

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten


= --Apple-Mail=_026B99AD-0CF3-4FE9-AF83-69D54B6161BF-- From nobody Thu Jun 10 11:36:41 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79B23A13AA for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 11:36:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HOqGTmh17w6M for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 11:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA1F73A13A4 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 11:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (p548dcc89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4G1CNw1BVdz2xHY; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 20:36:32 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5DDBE2A7-564A-4537-9FA2-97FB0408DB45" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.100.0.2.22\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 20:36:31 +0200 Cc: jsonpath@ietf.org Message-Id: <216567A7-3F08-437F-9793-B773AB0E82F7@tzi.org> References: <4061cd79-10d9-f49f-ee0e-c4b5c8b5c69c@goessner.net> To: =?utf-8?Q?Stefan_G=C3=B6ssner?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] PR regarding selectors ... X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 18:36:40 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_5DDBE2A7-564A-4537-9FA2-97FB0408DB45 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Fixed in #99 (a few syntax nits: numbered sections cannot follow = unnumbered sections, attribute lists for table must stick to the table. = There also was trailing whitespace.) I couldn=E2=80=99t put this back in #98 because my tool really don=E2=80=99= t like using the branch name =E2=80=9Cmain=E2=80=9D for pull requests; I = didn=E2=80=99t know that. (And the makefile still is confused about the default branch, but that = seems to be innocuous.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > On 10. Jun 2021, at 20:21, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > On 10. Jun 2021, at 19:17, Stefan G=C3=B6ssner > wrote: >>=20 >> ... had a hard time with this PR. Lost all changes ... luckily could = recover them, thanks git. >>=20 >> PR finally failed ... help needed. >=20 > I fixed the YAML nit in PR #99. >=20 > Unfortunately, the build is confused about branches; I need to find = out why. >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath --Apple-Mail=_5DDBE2A7-564A-4537-9FA2-97FB0408DB45 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Fixed= in #99 (a few syntax nits: numbered sections cannot follow unnumbered = sections, attribute lists for table must stick to the table.  There = also was trailing whitespace.)

I couldn=E2=80=99t put this back in #98 because my tool = really don=E2=80=99t like using the branch name =E2=80=9Cmain=E2=80=9D = for pull requests; I didn=E2=80=99t know that.

(And the makefile still is confused = about the default branch, but that seems to be innocuous.)

Gr=C3=BC=C3= =9Fe, Carsten


On 10. = Jun 2021, at 20:21, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:

On 10. Jun 2021, at = 19:17, Stefan G=C3=B6ssner <stefan@goessner.net> wrote:

=20 =20
...= had a hard time with this PR. Lost all changes ... luckily could recover them, thanks git.

PR finally failed ... help = needed.

I fixed the YAML nit in PR #99.

Unfortunately, the build is confused = about branches; I need to find out why.

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, = Carsten


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Resolves #84 Alterations Removed Object, and Array since they are defined i= n 8259. Replaced with extended verb... | | | On Friday, June 11, 2021, 05:44:17 AM GMT+12, Tim Bray wrote: =20 =20 I reproduce the notes from our meeting last month.=C2=A0 I see quite a few= action items there =E2=80=A6 if our meeting next week is going to be usefu= l, it would be nice to see some of the PRs submitted.=C2=A0 Thanks to Stefa= n for getting this started - I think he needs help getting his PR untangled= ? On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 2:33 PM James wrote: Thank you to all who attended our first interim meeting - the minutes=20 are available on Datatracker[1] however at time of writing this email=20 the recording is not yet on Youtube. The consensus and action points as I gathered: # Terminology - #84 Consensus: Sticking with the term "node" implying the location and the valu= e Action: Greg to PR the terminology # Relative Path Support - #59 Consensus: Queries should not begin with @, but this is a natural=20 extension point. Action: Chairs to update the Github issue and allow for non-attendees to=20 reply Action: Write an extensibility model # Regular Expressions in Filters - #70 Consensus: Regular expressions can be included once we have a specific=20 proposal Consensus: Only permit literals in regular expressions Action: Carsten to attempt a PR Action: Cover DoS in the security considerations of the document # Duplicates in Selector output - #23 Consensus: Duplicate removal won't be part of the document Action: Marko to write the descendants PR # Filter Expressions - #64 Action: Stefan to write PR If there are any questions or corrections please let me know. A poll for the June interim will be sent out soon. James & Tim JSONPath Chairs 1:=20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2021-jsonpath-01-202105110= 900/ --=20 Jsonpath mailing list Jsonpath@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath --=20 Jsonpath mailing list Jsonpath@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath =20 ------=_Part_3334859_331085062.1623382637757 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My PR for #84 has been up fo= r almost a month, and I've had one review of it with no follow-up to my sub= sequent edits.





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On Friday, June 11, 2021, 05:44:17 AM GMT+12, Tim Bray = <tbray@textuality.com> wrote:


=
I reproduce the notes from our meeting last month.  I see quite a= few action items there =E2=80=A6 if our meeting next week is going to be u= seful, it would be nice to see some of the PRs submitted.  Thanks to S= tefan for getting this started - I think he needs help getting his PR untan= gled?

On Fri, May 14, = 2021 at 2:33 PM James <james.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you to all who attended our fir= st interim meeting - the minutes
are available on Datatracker[1] however at time of writing this email
the recording is not yet on Youtube.

The consensus and action points as I gathered:

# Terminology - #84
Consensus: Sticking with the term "node" implying the location and the valu= e

Action: Greg to PR the terminology


# Relative Path Support - #59
Consensus: Queries should not begin with @, but this is a natural
extension point.

Action: Chairs to update the Github issue and allow for non-attendees to reply
Action: Write an extensibility model


# Regular Expressions in Filters - #70
Consensus: Regular expressions can be included once we have a specific
proposal
Consensus: Only permit literals in regular expressions

Action: Carsten to attempt a PR
Action: Cover DoS in the security considerations of the document


# Duplicates in Selector output - #23
Consensus: Duplicate removal won't be part of the document

Action: Marko to write the descendants PR


# Filter Expressions - #64
Action: Stefan to write PR

If there are any questions or corrections please let me know.

A poll for the June interim will be sent out soon.

James & Tim
JSONPath Chairs


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Fixed in #99 (a few syntax nits: numbered sections cannot follow unnumbered sections,
oh well ...

attribute lists for table must stick to the table. 

but then they are displayed as the last table row ... ok, if it's necessary.

There also was trailing whitespace.)

hmm .. . this is important to avoid.

I couldn’t put this back in #98 because my tool really don’t like using the branch name “main” for pull requests; I didn’t know that.

(And the makefile still is confused about the default branch, but that seems to be innocuous.)

Grüße, Carsten


On 10. Jun 2021, at 20:21, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:

On 10. Jun 2021, at 19:17, Stefan Gössner <stefan@goessner.net> wrote:

... had a hard time with this PR. Lost all changes ... luckily could recover them, thanks git.

PR finally failed ... help needed.

I fixed the YAML nit in PR #99.

Unfortunately, the build is confused about branches; I need to find out why.

Grüße, Carsten


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Am 11.06.2021 um 05:37 schrieb Greg Dennis: > My PR for #84 has been up for almost a month, and I've had one review > of it with no follow-up to my subsequent edits. > > 84 terminology by gregsdennis · Pull Request #97 · > ietf-wg-jsonpath/draft-ietf-jsonpath-base > > > > > > > > > 84 terminology by gregsdennis · Pull Request #97 · > ietf-wg-jsonpath/draf... > > Resolves #84 Alterations Removed Object, and Array since they are > defined in 8259. Replaced with extended verb... > > > > > > On Friday, June 11, 2021, 05:44:17 AM GMT+12, Tim Bray > wrote: > > > I reproduce the notes from our meeting last month.  I see quite a few > action items there … if our meeting next week is going to be useful, > it would be nice to see some of the PRs submitted.  Thanks to Stefan > for getting this started - I think he needs help getting his PR untangled? > > On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 2:33 PM James > wrote: > > Thank you to all who attended our first interim meeting - the minutes > are available on Datatracker[1] however at time of writing this email > the recording is not yet on Youtube. > > The consensus and action points as I gathered: > > # Terminology - #84 > Consensus: Sticking with the term "node" implying the location and > the value > > Action: Greg to PR the terminology > > > # Relative Path Support - #59 > Consensus: Queries should not begin with @, but this is a natural > extension point. > > Action: Chairs to update the Github issue and allow for > non-attendees to > reply > Action: Write an extensibility model > > > # Regular Expressions in Filters - #70 > Consensus: Regular expressions can be included once we have a > specific > proposal > Consensus: Only permit literals in regular expressions > > Action: Carsten to attempt a PR > Action: Cover DoS in the security considerations of the document > > > # Duplicates in Selector output - #23 > Consensus: Duplicate removal won't be part of the document > > Action: Marko to write the descendants PR > > > # Filter Expressions - #64 > Action: Stefan to write PR > > If there are any questions or corrections please let me know. > > A poll for the June interim will be sent out soon. > > James & Tim > JSONPath Chairs > > > 1: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2021-jsonpath-01-202105110900/ > > > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath > > > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath > > > > Virenfrei. www.avg.com > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > --------------ECC44D7EF193612BEBD949F8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ... it's still on my task list, didn't forget.

Am 11.06.2021 um 05:37 schrieb Greg Dennis:
My PR for #84 has been up for almost a month, and I've had one review of it with no follow-up to my subsequent edits.

84 terminology by gregsdennis · Pull Request #97 · ietf-wg-jsonpath/draf...

Resolves #84 Alterations Removed Object, and Array since they are defined in 8259. Replaced with extended verb...



On Friday, June 11, 2021, 05:44:17 AM GMT+12, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> wrote:


I reproduce the notes from our meeting last month.  I see quite a few action items there … if our meeting next week is going to be useful, it would be nice to see some of the PRs submitted.  Thanks to Stefan for getting this started - I think he needs help getting his PR untangled?

On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 2:33 PM James <james.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you to all who attended our first interim meeting - the minutes
are available on Datatracker[1] however at time of writing this email
the recording is not yet on Youtube.

The consensus and action points as I gathered:

# Terminology - #84
Consensus: Sticking with the term "node" implying the location and the value

Action: Greg to PR the terminology


# Relative Path Support - #59
Consensus: Queries should not begin with @, but this is a natural
extension point.

Action: Chairs to update the Github issue and allow for non-attendees to
reply
Action: Write an extensibility model


# Regular Expressions in Filters - #70
Consensus: Regular expressions can be included once we have a specific
proposal
Consensus: Only permit literals in regular expressions

Action: Carsten to attempt a PR
Action: Cover DoS in the security considerations of the document


# Duplicates in Selector output - #23
Consensus: Duplicate removal won't be part of the document

Action: Marko to write the descendants PR


# Filter Expressions - #64
Action: Stefan to write PR

If there are any questions or corrections please let me know.

A poll for the June interim will be sent out soon.

James & Tim
JSONPath Chairs


1:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2021-jsonpath-01-202105110900/

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Approved. On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 04:37, Greg Dennis wrote: > My PR for #84 has been up for almost a month, and I've had one review of > it with no follow-up to my subsequent edits. > > 84 terminology by gregsdennis =C2=B7 Pull Request #97 =C2=B7 > ietf-wg-jsonpath/draft-ietf-jsonpath-base > > > 84 terminology by gregsdennis =C2=B7 Pull Request #97 =C2=B7 ietf-wg-json= path/draf... > > Resolves #84 Alterations Removed Object, and Array since they are defined > in 8259. Replaced with extended verb... > > > > > On Friday, June 11, 2021, 05:44:17 AM GMT+12, Tim Bray < > tbray@textuality.com> wrote: > > > I reproduce the notes from our meeting last month. I see quite a few > action items there =E2=80=A6 if our meeting next week is going to be usef= ul, it > would be nice to see some of the PRs submitted. Thanks to Stefan for > getting this started - I think he needs help getting his PR untangled? > > On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 2:33 PM James wrote: > > Thank you to all who attended our first interim meeting - the minutes > are available on Datatracker[1] however at time of writing this email > the recording is not yet on Youtube. > > The consensus and action points as I gathered: > > # Terminology - #84 > Consensus: Sticking with the term "node" implying the location and the > value > > Action: Greg to PR the terminology > > > # Relative Path Support - #59 > Consensus: Queries should not begin with @, but this is a natural > extension point. > > Action: Chairs to update the Github issue and allow for non-attendees to > reply > Action: Write an extensibility model > > > # Regular Expressions in Filters - #70 > Consensus: Regular expressions can be included once we have a specific > proposal > Consensus: Only permit literals in regular expressions > > Action: Carsten to attempt a PR > Action: Cover DoS in the security considerations of the document > > > # Duplicates in Selector output - #23 > Consensus: Duplicate removal won't be part of the document > > Action: Marko to write the descendants PR > > > # Filter Expressions - #64 > Action: Stefan to write PR > > If there are any questions or corrections please let me know. > > A poll for the June interim will be sent out soon. > > James & Tim > JSONPath Chairs > > > 1: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2021-jsonpath-01-2021051= 10900/ > > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath > > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath > --00000000000058ea5105c476fa53 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Whoops - sorry about that. Approved.

On Fri, 11 Jun 202= 1 at 04:37, Greg Dennis <gregsdennis=3D40yahoo.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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On Friday, June 11, 2021, 05:44:17 AM GMT+12, Tim Bray = <tbray@textual= ity.com> wrote:


I reproduce the n= otes from our meeting last month.=C2=A0 I see quite a few action items ther= e =E2=80=A6 if our meeting next week is going to be useful, it would be nic= e to see some of the PRs submitted.=C2=A0 Thanks to Stefan for getting this= started - I think he needs help getting his PR untangled?

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On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 2:33 PM James <james.ietf@g= mail.com> wrote:
Thank you to a= ll who attended our first interim meeting - the minutes
are available on Datatracker[1] however at time of writing this email
the recording is not yet on Youtube.

The consensus and action points as I gathered:

# Terminology - #84
Consensus: Sticking with the term "node" implying the location an= d the value

Action: Greg to PR the terminology


# Relative Path Support - #59
Consensus: Queries should not begin with @, but this is a natural
extension point.

Action: Chairs to update the Github issue and allow for non-attendees to reply
Action: Write an extensibility model


# Regular Expressions in Filters - #70
Consensus: Regular expressions can be included once we have a specific
proposal
Consensus: Only permit literals in regular expressions

Action: Carsten to attempt a PR
Action: Cover DoS in the security considerations of the document


# Duplicates in Selector output - #23
Consensus: Duplicate removal won't be part of the document

Action: Marko to write the descendants PR


# Filter Expressions - #64
Action: Stefan to write PR

If there are any questions or corrections please let me know.

A poll for the June interim will be sent out soon.

James & Tim
JSONPath Chairs


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Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:30:16 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:30:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Greg Dennis Reply-To: Greg Dennis To: cabo@tzi.org, Carsten Bormann Cc: James , Tim Bray , "jsonpath@ietf.org" Message-ID: <1245596845.3337542.1623400209305@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4b6c9647-ceb5-813b-dd76-0a0457e0c11d@gmail.com> <1146398455.3334860.1623382637759@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3337541_111291807.1623400209304" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.18368 YahooMailAndroidMobile Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] May interim meeting minutes X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:30:30 -0000 ------=_Part_3337541_111291807.1623400209304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's rude, Carsten. I put significant effort into this PR. It resolves precisely what it was su= pposed to in that it updates the terminology as we had discussed in the mee= ting. To say that the changes don't improve the document is insulting. =20 =20 On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 8:01 pm, Carsten Bormann wrote: On= 2021-06-11, at 05:37, Greg Dennis wrote: >=20 > My PR for #84 has been up for almost a month, and I've had one review of = it with no follow-up to my subsequent edits. You have a followup now. In its current state, this PR does not improve the document, even after the= subsequent edits. Please do not merge. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten =20 ------=_Part_3337541_111291807.1623400209304 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's rude, Carsten.
<= br>
I put signifi= cant effort into this PR. It resolves precisely what it was supposed to in = that it updates the terminology as we had discussed in the meeting.

To say that the changes don't improv= e the document is insulting.

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at = 8:01 pm, Carsten Bormann
<cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
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On 2021-06-11, at 05:37, Greg Dennis <gregsdennis=3D40yahoo.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> My PR for #84 has been up for almost a month, and I've had = one review of it with no follow-up to my subsequent edits.


You have a followup now.
In its current state, this PR does not improve the document= , even after the subsequent edits.
Please do not merge.
Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten


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Since that PR has a bunch of changes, it may be helpful to pull out a few for independent discussion/decision? On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 1:30 AM Greg Dennis wrote: > That's rude, Carsten. > > I put significant effort into this PR. It resolves precisely what it was > supposed to in that it updates the terminology as we had discussed in the > meeting. > > To say that the changes don't improve the document is insulting. > > On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 8:01 pm, Carsten Bormann > wrote: > On 2021-06-11, at 05:37, Greg Dennis 40yahoo.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > > > > My PR for #84 has been up for almost a month, and I've had one review o= f > it with no follow-up to my subsequent edits. > > > You have a followup now. > > In its current state, this PR does not improve the document, even after > the subsequent edits. > Please do not merge. > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > > --000000000000df0ef905c47f196b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I invite WG members to visit=C2=A0https://github.com/ie= tf-wg-jsonpath/draft-ietf-jsonpath-base/pull/97, where there has been d= iscussion of the changes Greg has proposed, and form their own opinion abou= t Carsten's aggressive statement. =C2=A0

Since that PR has a bunch of changes, it may be helpfu= l to pull out a few for independent discussion/decision?
<= br>
On Fri,= Jun 11, 2021 at 1:30 AM Greg Dennis <gregsdennis@yahoo.com> wrote:
That&= #39;s rude, Carsten.

I put significant effort into thi= s PR. It resolves precisely what it was supposed to in that it updates the = terminology as we had discussed in the meeting.

= To say that the changes don't improve the document is insulting.

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 8:0= 1 pm, Carsten Bormann
<cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
On 2021-06-11, at 05:37, Greg D= ennis <gregsdennis=3D40yahoo.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

>
> My PR for #84 has been up for almost a month, and I'v= e had one review of it with no follow-up to my subsequent edits.


You have a followup now.

In its current state, this PR does not improve the docu= ment, even after the subsequent edits.
Please do not merg= e.

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten


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X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 20:46:46 -0000 --00000000000096788405c4839a3b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable James and I think we should discuss this contribution at our interim on Tuesday. Stefan, as several people have pointed out, that's a pretty substantial package of changes. Could we ask you to lead that part of the agenda, select a few key points suitable for the WG to progress while we're online together and introduce them? [I'm sympathetic to the suggestion that you decompose the PR into a few smaller ones, but that's not a requirement.] On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:31 PM Stefan G=C3=B6ssner = wrote: > Thanks a lot Carsten for helping here out. > > > Fixed in #99 (a few syntax nits: numbered sections cannot follow > unnumbered sections, > > oh well ... > > attribute lists for table must stick to the table. > > > but then they are displayed as the last table row ... ok, if it's > necessary. > > There also was trailing whitespace.) > > > hmm .. . this is important to avoid. > > > I couldn=E2=80=99t put this back in #98 because my tool really don=E2=80= =99t like using > the branch name =E2=80=9Cmain=E2=80=9D for pull requests; I didn=E2=80=99= t know that. > > (And the makefile still is confused about the default branch, but that > seems to be innocuous.) > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > > On 10. Jun 2021, at 20:21, Carsten Bormann wrote: > > On 10. Jun 2021, at 19:17, Stefan G=C3=B6ssner wrot= e: > > > ... had a hard time with this PR. Lost all changes ... luckily could > recover them, thanks git. > > PR finally failed ... help needed. > > > I fixed the YAML nit in PR #99. > > Unfortunately, the build is confused about branches; I need to find out > why. > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath > > > > > Virenfrei. > www.avg.com > > <#m_5061528231431129916_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath > --00000000000096788405c4839a3b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jam= es and I think we should discuss this contribution at our interim=C2=A0on T= uesday.=C2=A0 Stefan, as several people have pointed out, that's a pret= ty substantial package of changes.=C2=A0 Could we ask you to lead that part= of the agenda, select a few key points suitable for the WG to progress whi= le we're online together and introduce them? =C2=A0[I'm sympathetic= to the suggestion that you decompose the PR into a few smaller ones, but t= hat's not a requirement.]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:31 PM Stefan = G=C3=B6ssner <stefan@goessner.net= > wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Thanks a lot Carsten for helping here out.


=20 Fixed in #99 (a few syntax nits: numbered sections cannot follow unnumbered sections,
oh well ...

attribute lists for table must stick to the table.=C2=A0

but then they are displayed as the last table row ... ok, if it's necessary.

There also was trailing whitespace.)

hmm .. . this is important to avoid.

I couldn=E2=80=99t put this back in #98 because my tool really don=E2=80=99t like using the branch name =E2=80=9Cmain=E2=80= =9D for pull requests; I didn=E2=80=99t know that.

(And the makefile still is confused about the default branch, but that seems to be innocuous.)

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten


On 10. Jun 2021, at 20:21, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tz= i.org> wrote:

=20
On 10. Jun 2021, at 19:17, Stefan G=C3=B6ssner <stefan@goessner.net> wrote:

=20
..= . had a hard time with this PR. Lost all changes ... luckily could recover them, thanks git.

PR finally failed ... help needed.

I fixed the YAML nit in PR #99.

Unfortunately, the build is confused about branches; I need to find out why.

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten


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Since that PR has a bunch of = changes, it may be helpful to pull out a few for independent = discussion/decision?

Yes, please.
There is = lots of good stuff in there, but as a package it is inedible.

We need to get better in = generating small PRs that, if they move us forward, then get merged = quickly so we can build on top of them.
An I mean = quickly, as in within a couple of days, and not as a Herculean = effort.
(Case in point: Why isn=E2=80=99t #100 = merged yet? It is not even changing the text.  Well, OK, it is 16 h = old.)

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten

= --Apple-Mail=_D77C7966-9440-4CE8-8797-F7B392901F8A-- From nobody Fri Jun 11 14:04:54 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D39D3A017E for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:04:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_FAIL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CxbhYqhe4u94 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:32::19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C0D53A0365 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (p548dcc89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4G1tdS1vfhz2xHL; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 23:04:44 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_263F3B8A-D1BF-48CF-BCE8-60D415843D2F" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.100.0.2.22\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <5760e12a-2b9d-8a56-82e2-8488e0f55b08@goessner.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 23:04:43 +0200 Cc: jsonpath@ietf.org Message-Id: References: <4061cd79-10d9-f49f-ee0e-c4b5c8b5c69c@goessner.net> <216567A7-3F08-437F-9793-B773AB0E82F7@tzi.org> <5760e12a-2b9d-8a56-82e2-8488e0f55b08@goessner.net> To: =?utf-8?Q?Stefan_G=C3=B6ssner?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) Archived-At: Subject: [Jsonpath] Trailing whitespace (Re: PR regarding selectors ...) X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 21:04:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_263F3B8A-D1BF-48CF-BCE8-60D415843D2F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 11. Jun 2021, at 07:31, Stefan G=C3=B6ssner = wrote: >=20 >>> There also was trailing whitespace.) >>=20 >> hmm .. . this is important to avoid. Unfortunately, giving a meaning to trailing whitespace is one of the big = blunders that John Gruber made when defining markdown. Kramdown-rfc plays along, but the whole thing is so error-prone that = Martin Thomson created a commit hook that stops you from committing = changes that introduce trailing whitespace. Which maybe is a reasonable thing to do, but it creates an interesting = failure situation: Somebody manages to sneak in a commit that does create trailing = whitespace. If somebody tries to edit the document updated with that commit, they = can=E2=80=99t commit their changes because the commit hook doesn=E2=80=99t= let them commit. Of course, modern editors have easy ways to get rid of trailing = whitespace (M-x delete-trailing-whitespace RET in emacs), but the next = committer (1) first has to diagnose the problem (2) needs to find that command that they may not need too often (3) litters their PR with all those whitespace changes because they'd = lose the changes in the working copy otherwise. I don=E2=80=99t know a way to avoid trailing whitespace that doesn=E2=80=99= t have that problem, or I would already have suggested that change to = Martin. TL;DR, yes, let=E2=80=99s please avoid committing trailing whitespace. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten --Apple-Mail=_263F3B8A-D1BF-48CF-BCE8-60D415843D2F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 On = 11. Jun 2021, at 07:31, Stefan G=C3=B6ssner <stefan@goessner.net>= wrote:

There also was trailing = whitespace.)

hmm .. . this is important to = avoid.

Unfortunately, giving a meaning to trailing = whitespace is one of the big blunders that John Gruber made when = defining markdown.

Kramdown-rfc = plays along, but the whole thing is so error-prone that Martin Thomson = created a commit hook that stops you from committing changes that = introduce trailing whitespace.

Which = maybe is a reasonable thing to do, but it creates an interesting failure = situation:
Somebody manages to sneak in a commit that does = create trailing whitespace.
If somebody tries to edit the = document updated with that commit, they can=E2=80=99t commit their = changes because the commit hook doesn=E2=80=99t let them = commit.

Of course, modern editors = have easy ways to get rid of trailing whitespace (M-x = delete-trailing-whitespace RET in emacs), but the next = committer
(1) first has to diagnose the problem
(2) = needs to find that command that they may not need too = often
(3) litters their PR with all those whitespace changes = because they'd lose the changes in the working copy = otherwise.

I don=E2=80=99t know a = way to avoid trailing whitespace that doesn=E2=80=99t have that problem, = or I would already have suggested that change to Martin.

TL;DR, yes, let=E2=80=99s please avoid committing = trailing whitespace.

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9F= e, Carsten

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X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 06:56:33 -0000 Agreed. That's one of the reasons we introduced an .editorconfig file, which contains the setting: trim_trailing_whitespace =3D true To find out how to apply .editorconfig to your editor or IDE, please see CONTRIBUTING.md. On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 22:04, Carsten Bormann wrote: > > On 11. Jun 2021, at 07:31, Stefan G=C3=B6ssner wrot= e: > > > There also was trailing whitespace.) > > > hmm .. . this is important to avoid. > > > Unfortunately, giving a meaning to trailing whitespace is one of the big = blunders that John Gruber made when defining markdown. > > Kramdown-rfc plays along, but the whole thing is so error-prone that Mart= in Thomson created a commit hook that stops you from committing changes tha= t introduce trailing whitespace. > > Which maybe is a reasonable thing to do, but it creates an interesting fa= ilure situation: > Somebody manages to sneak in a commit that does create trailing whitespac= e. > If somebody tries to edit the document updated with that commit, they can= =E2=80=99t commit their changes because the commit hook doesn=E2=80=99t let= them commit. > > Of course, modern editors have easy ways to get rid of trailing whitespac= e (M-x delete-trailing-whitespace RET in emacs), but the next committer > (1) first has to diagnose the problem > (2) needs to find that command that they may not need too often > (3) litters their PR with all those whitespace changes because they'd los= e the changes in the working copy otherwise. > > I don=E2=80=99t know a way to avoid trailing whitespace that doesn=E2=80= =99t have that problem, or I would already have suggested that change to Ma= rtin. > > TL;DR, yes, let=E2=80=99s please avoid committing trailing whitespace. > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath From nobody Sat Jun 12 08:10:57 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731D23A1676 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 08:10:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_FAIL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kxc3OOD0ka_X for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 08:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:32::19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D2083A1674 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 08:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dcc89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4G2LkZ3Y1Hz2xH5; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:10:46 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <0AD6C60E-2580-4C29-9FF7-F83491A35AA6@tzi.org> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:10:46 +0200 Cc: "jsonpath@ietf.org" , James , Greg Dennis X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 645203446.087082-885f1493c69cc405e3cb07e883ca94ac Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5BE02E9C-C323-4084-9BFD-F2F131E63FE6@tzi.org> References: <4b6c9647-ceb5-813b-dd76-0a0457e0c11d@gmail.com> <1146398455.3334860.1623382637759@mail.yahoo.com> <1245596845.3337542.1623400209305@mail.yahoo.com> <0AD6C60E-2580-4C29-9FF7-F83491A35AA6@tzi.org> To: Tim Bray X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] May interim meeting minutes X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 15:10:55 -0000 On 2021-06-11, at 22:49, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 >> Since that PR has a bunch of changes, it may be helpful to pull out a = few for independent discussion/decision? >=20 > Yes, please. > There is lots of good stuff in there, but as a package it is inedible. Well, I ate that sandwich now. Given that some of us seem to like #97, I have picked (and slightly = fixed up) most of #97 into #101. I would propose that we merge that quickly and get on to the problematic = aspect of #97: While the terms "object", "array", "number" are used in RFC 8259, it is = never clear whether they refer to the concept or its representation in a = JSON text. That problem is irrelevant in RFC 8259 (which, after all, = only defines the JSON text), but not here. The specimen showing this best is a new definition of "String" in #97, = which is neither defining the JSON strings JSONPath operates on nor does = it make clear that JSONPath has redefined string literals with respect = to RFC 8259. =E2=9E=94 We=E2=80=99ll need to decide whether there also is a different = data model for strings in JSONPath or JSONPath just has a different = notation. I would expect that we'll go in and fix the other gaps opened by this PR = later; right now I'd rather focus on technical work. (Oh, and why are we stuck with #94? Three approvals.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Sat Jun 12 09:33:17 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAED3A1923 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 09:33:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.388 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.388 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_REMOTE_IMAGE=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RmsmBV8zyxdC for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 09:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A1B83A1903 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 09:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([88.130.51.89]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MEmtx-1m8JyD1Err-00GIk8; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:32:58 +0200 To: Carsten Bormann Cc: jsonpath@ietf.org References: <4061cd79-10d9-f49f-ee0e-c4b5c8b5c69c@goessner.net> <216567A7-3F08-437F-9793-B773AB0E82F7@tzi.org> <5760e12a-2b9d-8a56-82e2-8488e0f55b08@goessner.net> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_G=c3=b6ssner?= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 18:32:39 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F2785177CA20337E8C79AC0B" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:qUmmmMUCXrxlxUEoXBjBI6tmWBIj247EbQCbEarx8q9GCC3fa/v aXQVD+DN1kHTZ7JBRuzxpYVCI0Z75ntcSGmxrzXjq3pIFwLSZf++jd8+C2MwZ9dXAeC0AZx DlOtC42zyaD6l31QdvJdUQniS34tPi5NO0lB362gBTL38IfRjpRqTeiPB4IBWGiowB/EOdl qFEmHtjh6ogKVTFq3EVsg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:O96aA8oE5PU=:C5Io7ExVCU15GVKrz5vlDb kaMTr/gAyYbUmT8Fsy0KkrVUEyol7HdYhWtUoe8shfvue+bTE8bAT1Sq34GJRRntC+0NkxLoP ar1lmc8CZsOEagEy2B3Ect4rimQe9v4LyuS61fcLurE9pOblZYRZ1ihNjXKwxpyTIBVAwHxWT GM1+armL3SqZPvkFp5isgtjlsI888OZXG4QrqWnNUKyqDSHL9wcPh4FCwHkOEZpcbxjlm0gQF IrusJ6JUiFiCLltawx+GJ1UDHDHONc52lq6e4+5GAAcG+jj9OrFjxJQn6SZqrMjkGwE2sxAnU DJmQcp+a0okpboHlOX+lncbgVrapcKlcqaFoSfxkIkt3xsyU1PoX0CPRUOFjBx/5b09JopGlA Flf/xBeuS8EYbkBGyxCVLqrf+pqTyh8Vr0HXPNwjkR32BQeiyX0o5l+hn+F9LdGmuu+eZQXgO jVAWtwPeVvkubCn7xS+BCH7UBVsVRKWpeHjfUMdK3xflWhiTgRShE3a86QWTejEg7jAO97anH ldOWVpuYVukmZ0VCJ57hYo= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] Trailing whitespace (Re: PR regarding selectors ...) X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 16:33:16 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F2785177CA20337E8C79AC0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am very well aware about meaning of trailing whitespace in Markdown. But what is new to me is, that whitespace * in metadata section (YAML) * in code section needs to be avoided too. Ok, now I know. -- sg Am 11.06.2021 um 23:04 schrieb Carsten Bormann: > On 11. Jun 2021, at 07:31, Stefan Gössner > wrote: >> >>>> There also was trailing whitespace.) >>> >>> hmm .. . this is important to avoid. > > Unfortunately, giving a meaning to trailing whitespace is one of the > big blunders that John Gruber made when defining markdown. > > Kramdown-rfc plays along, but the whole thing is so error-prone that > Martin Thomson created a commit hook that stops you from committing > changes that introduce trailing whitespace. > > Which maybe is a reasonable thing to do, but it creates an interesting > failure situation: > Somebody manages to sneak in a commit that does create trailing > whitespace. > If somebody tries to edit the document updated with that commit, they > can’t commit their changes because the commit hook doesn’t let them > commit. > > Of course, modern editors have easy ways to get rid of trailing > whitespace (M-x delete-trailing-whitespace RET in emacs), but the next > committer > (1) first has to diagnose the problem > (2) needs to find that command that they may not need too often > (3) litters their PR with all those whitespace changes because they'd > lose the changes in the working copy otherwise. > > I don’t know a way to avoid trailing whitespace that doesn’t have that > problem, or I would already have suggested that change to Martin. > > TL;DR, yes, let’s please avoid committing trailing whitespace. > > Grüße, Carsten > > > > Virenfrei. www.avg.com > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> --------------F2785177CA20337E8C79AC0B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am very well aware about meaning of trailing whitespace in Markdown. But what is new to me is, that whitespace

* in metadata section (YAML)
* in code section

needs to be avoided too. Ok, now I know.
--
sg


Am 11.06.2021 um 23:04 schrieb Carsten Bormann:
On 11. Jun 2021, at 07:31, Stefan Gössner <stefan@goessner.net> wrote:

There also was trailing whitespace.)

hmm .. . this is important to avoid.

Unfortunately, giving a meaning to trailing whitespace is one of the big blunders that John Gruber made when defining markdown.

Kramdown-rfc plays along, but the whole thing is so error-prone that Martin Thomson created a commit hook that stops you from committing changes that introduce trailing whitespace.

Which maybe is a reasonable thing to do, but it creates an interesting failure situation:
Somebody manages to sneak in a commit that does create trailing whitespace.
If somebody tries to edit the document updated with that commit, they can’t commit their changes because the commit hook doesn’t let them commit.

Of course, modern editors have easy ways to get rid of trailing whitespace (M-x delete-trailing-whitespace RET in emacs), but the next committer
(1) first has to diagnose the problem
(2) needs to find that command that they may not need too often
(3) litters their PR with all those whitespace changes because they'd lose the changes in the working copy otherwise.

I don’t know a way to avoid trailing whitespace that doesn’t have that problem, or I would already have suggested that change to Martin.

TL;DR, yes, let’s please avoid committing trailing whitespace.

Grüße, Carsten


Virenfrei. www.avg.com

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Sun, 13 Jun 2021 04:20:38 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 04:20:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Greg Dennis Reply-To: Greg Dennis To: cabo@tzi.org, Carsten Bormann , Tim Bray Cc: "jsonpath@ietf.org" , James Message-ID: <1473679330.3620773.1623558032906@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <5BE02E9C-C323-4084-9BFD-F2F131E63FE6@tzi.org> References: <4b6c9647-ceb5-813b-dd76-0a0457e0c11d@gmail.com> <1146398455.3334860.1623382637759@mail.yahoo.com> <1245596845.3337542.1623400209305@mail.yahoo.com> <0AD6C60E-2580-4C29-9FF7-F83491A35AA6@tzi.org> <5BE02E9C-C323-4084-9BFD-F2F131E63FE6@tzi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3620772_519466138.1623558032905" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.18368 YahooMailAndroidMobile Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] May interim meeting minutes X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 04:20:45 -0000 ------=_Part_3620772_519466138.1623558032905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Regarding #94, who has merging responsibility? It was my understanding that= it was the chairs.=C2=A0 I've asked this question before, and the result w= as for me to leave it for someone else. Greg =20 =20 On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 at 3:10 am, Carsten Bormann wrote: On= 2021-06-11, at 22:49, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 >> Since that PR has a bunch of changes, it may be helpful to pull out a fe= w for independent discussion/decision? >=20 > Yes, please. > There is lots of good stuff in there, but as a package it is inedible. Well, I ate that sandwich now. Given that some of us seem to like #97, I have picked (and slightly fixed u= p) most of #97 into #101. I would propose that we merge that quickly and get on to the problematic as= pect of #97: While the terms "object", "array", "number" are used in RFC 8259, it is nev= er clear whether they refer to the concept or its representation in a JSON = text.=C2=A0 That problem is irrelevant in RFC 8259 (which, after all, only = defines the JSON text), but not here. The specimen showing this best is a new definition of "String" in #97, whic= h is neither defining the JSON strings JSONPath operates on nor does it mak= e clear that JSONPath has redefined string literals with respect to RFC 825= 9. =E2=9E=94 We=E2=80=99ll need to decide whether there also is a different da= ta model for strings in JSONPath or JSONPath just has a different notation. I would expect that we'll go in and fix the other gaps opened by this PR la= ter; right now I'd rather focus on technical work. (Oh, and why are we stuck with #94? Three approvals.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten --=20 Jsonpath mailing list Jsonpath@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath =20 ------=_Part_3620772_519466138.1623558032905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Regarding #94, who has merging responsibility? It was my understanding that= it was the chairs.  I've asked this question before, and the result w= as for me to leave it for someone else.

Greg

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 at 3:10 am, Carsten Bormann=
<cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
On 202= 1-06-11, at 22:49, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
>
>> Since that PR has a bunch of= changes, it may be helpful to pull out a few for independent discussion/de= cision?
>
> Yes, please.
> There is lots of good stuff in there, but as a package it i= s inedible.

Well, I ate that sandwich = now.

Given that some of us seem to lik= e #97, I have picked (and slightly fixed up) most of #97 into #101.

I would propose that we merge that quickly an= d get on to the problematic aspect of #97:
While the term= s "object", "array", "number" are used in RFC 8259, it is never clear wheth= er they refer to the concept or its representation in a JSON text.  Th= at problem is irrelevant in RFC 8259 (which, after all, only defines the JS= ON text), but not here.
The specimen showing this best is= a new definition of "String" in #97, which is neither defining the JSON st= rings JSONPath operates on nor does it make clear that JSONPath has redefin= ed string literals with respect to RFC 8259.
=E2=9E=94 We= =E2=80=99ll need to decide whether there also is a different data model for= strings in JSONPath or JSONPath just has a different notation.

I would expect that we'll go in and fix the other= gaps opened by this PR later; right now I'd rather focus on technical work= .

(Oh, and why are we stuck with #94?<= br clear=3D"none">Three approvals.)


Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten

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= Sent from mobile, sorry for terse

On 13. Jun 2021, at 0= 6:21, Greg Dennis <gregsdennis@yahoo.com> wrote:

<= /div>
=EF=BB=BFRegarding #94, who h= as merging responsibility? It was my understanding that it was the chairs.&n= bsp; I've asked this question before, and the result was for me to leave it f= or someone else.

Greg

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 at 3:10 am, Carsten Bormann
<cabo@tzi.org&= gt; wrote:
On 2021-06-11, at 22:49, Carsten Bor= mann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
>
>> Since that PR has a bunch of changes, it may be helpful to pu= ll out a few for independent discussion/decision?
> > Yes, please.
> There is lots of go= od stuff in there, but as a package it is inedible.

Well, I ate that sandwich now.

Given that some of us seem to like #97, I have picked (and slightly fix= ed up) most of #97 into #101.

I would p= ropose that we merge that quickly and get on to the problematic aspect of #9= 7:
While the terms "object", "array", "number" are used in= RFC 8259, it is never clear whether they refer to the concept or its repres= entation in a JSON text.  That problem is irrelevant in RFC 8259 (which= , after all, only defines the JSON text), but not here.
Th= e specimen showing this best is a new definition of "String" in #97, which i= s neither defining the JSON strings JSONPath operates on nor does it make cl= ear that JSONPath has redefined string literals with respect to RFC 8259.=E2=9E=94 We=E2=80=99ll need to decide whether there also is= a different data model for strings in JSONPath or JSONPath just has a diffe= rent notation.

I would expect that we'l= l go in and fix the other gaps opened by this PR later; right now I'd rather= focus on technical work.

(Oh, and why a= re we stuck with #94?
Three approvals.)


Gr=C3=BC=C3= =9Fe, Carsten

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This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us through which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are considered "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting. Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the meeting that would also be useful. --00000000000059d69e05c4b20128 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking u= s through which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are co= nsidered "open" and worthy=C2=A0of WG time at the meeting.
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--00000000000059d69e05c4b20128-- From nobody Sun Jun 13 22:32:24 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FEE3A1320 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 22:32:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_FAIL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tNQmhSPIG-8h for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 22:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:32::19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E10943A131F for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 22:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (p548dcc89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4G3Kp76XjHz2xF1; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 07:32:15 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B8F63A94-38CF-420C-BBF8-DE3C721C24DD" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.100.0.2.22\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 07:32:15 +0200 Cc: jsonpath@ietf.org Message-Id: <0CB072D0-915E-48C9-9777-A274EB871F60@tzi.org> References: To: Tim Bray X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 05:32:22 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B8F63A94-38CF-420C-BBF8-DE3C721C24DD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 14. Jun 2021, at 06:07, Tim Bray wrote: >=20 > I don't know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time = looking at our PR list and, while I have opinions about the details, I = think it's difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these discussions = over the last week or so. =20 I would prefer if we could merge the ready-to-merge PRs (#94, #101) and = get the other ones rebased on those. With enough time before tomorrow=E2=80=99s meeting that we can still = prepare slides. Can the document authors please get the merging done quickly, so the = submitters can rebase their PRs? This is not the time to be shy =E2=80=94 I know there are authors on the = document that are invisible, but this will have to be done by the ones = who have been doing the work. (I apologise for forking #99 off #98; I hope I have explained why the = tooling made this necessary. I don=E2=80=99t know how =E2=80=9Calive=E2=80=9D #75 is; the actual PR = would need rebasing after the selector work has progressed.) So there really only is =E2=80=94 #97, which after rebasing is a single remaining change. That = needs discussion, because it is indicative of a fundamental problem we = haven=E2=80=99t addressed yet. =E2=80=94 #99 (with most of the discussion in the thread on #98), which = desperately needs to be split up into smaller PRs building on top of = each other. > This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us = through which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are = considered "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting. I can certainly make a slide or two on the remaining significant = terminology issue. (That doesn=E2=80=99t mean terminology is otherwise done, it=E2=80=99s = just good enough that work can continue on technical content.) > Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the meeting = that would also be useful. Given the short time remaining, I=E2=80=99d prefer to do that in the = form of slideware. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten --Apple-Mail=_B8F63A94-38CF-420C-BBF8-DE3C721C24DD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 On = 14. Jun 2021, at 06:07, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> wrote:

I = don't know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time = looking at our PR list and, while I have opinions about the = details, I think it's difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these = discussions over the last week or so. =  

I would = prefer if we could merge the ready-to-merge PRs (#94, #101) and get the = other ones rebased on those.
With enough time before = tomorrow=E2=80=99s meeting that we can still prepare = slides.

Can the document authors = please get the merging done quickly, so the submitters can rebase their = PRs?
This is not the time to be shy =E2=80=94 I know there are = authors on the document that are invisible, but this will have to be = done by the ones who have been doing the work.

(I apologise for forking #99 off #98; I hope I = have explained why the tooling made this necessary.
I don=E2=80=99= t know how =E2=80=9Calive=E2=80=9D #75 is; the actual PR would need = rebasing after the selector work has progressed.)

So there really only is

=E2=80=94 #97, which after rebasing is a single = remaining change.  That needs discussion, because it is indicative = of a fundamental problem we haven=E2=80=99t addressed yet.
=E2=80= =94 #99 (with most of the discussion in the thread on #98), which = desperately needs to be split up into smaller PRs building on top of = each other.

This is to ask = Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us through which of = these selector--definition and terminology issues are considered "open" = and worthy of WG time at the = meeting.

I can = certainly make a slide or two on the remaining significant terminology = issue.
(That doesn=E2=80=99t mean terminology is otherwise = done, it=E2=80=99s just good enough that work can continue on technical = content.)

Should someone want to = post a summary/overview note before the meeting that would also be = useful.

Given = the short time remaining, I=E2=80=99d prefer to do that in the form of = slideware.

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, = Carsten

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I think we should discuss the policy tomorrow for clarity (especially since the editors listed in the document are not the same set as the intended editors). Meanwhile, I'll do some merges today, unless someone gets there first, as I have some spare time. On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 at 10:22, Carsten Bormann wrote: > > On 2021-06-13, at 07:23, Carsten Bormann wrote: > > > > The authors. > > And the long version is at > > Although this pretty much can be derived from reading RFC 2418 with addin= g some github common sense, maybe it would help if the chairs would confirm= that this is indeed the process, or declare their variation of it. > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath From nobody Mon Jun 14 01:36:40 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8419B3A1B96 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 01:36:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dj0wJ8bMj1ql for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 01:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 173613A1B97 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 01:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dcc89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4G3Ptn2Fdtz2xFl; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 10:36:33 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 10:36:32 +0200 Cc: jsonpath@ietf.org, Tim Bray , James , Greg Dennis X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 645352592.870176-7cc05d5cbac6b7dfa6693345ab2229e0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <020646DA-FDE3-4E26-805C-57A1879A7005@tzi.org> References: <1473679330.3620773.1623558032906@mail.yahoo.com> <2DA4072F-3FB1-4498-B529-8187002A1BBD@tzi.org> <5A72CEB1-E0F6-4AD7-BA6E-8F778394AF59@tzi.org> To: Glyn Normington X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] May interim meeting minutes X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 08:36:39 -0000 > On 2021-06-14, at 09:33, Glyn Normington = wrote: >=20 > That link said "Editor merges" which is quite different from the > author merging. Sorry, I messed up the terminology again. Author/Editor is the same in RFC 2418. So when I say =E2=80=9Cauthor merges=E2=80=9D, I mean =E2=80=9Cperson in = the author heading of the I-D merges=E2=80=9D, which are also called = =E2=80=9Ceditors=E2=80=9D, except that my preferred editors are Emacs = and the editors at the RFC editor. I use =E2=80=9Csubmitter of the PR=E2=80=9D in contrast to "authors of = the I-D". > I think we should discuss the policy tomorrow for > clarity (especially since the editors listed in the document are not > the same set as the intended editors). Meanwhile, I'll do some merges > today, unless someone gets there first, as I have some spare time. Again, please do #94 and #101. Thank you! Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Mon Jun 14 01:38:14 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43293A1B9D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 01:38:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.888 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.888 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_REMOTE_IMAGE=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gzYfE6rm_U5h for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 01:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB8CC3A1B9C for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 01:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([87.123.195.221]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M3DeV-1ltXS214Kj-003hea; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 10:38:03 +0200 To: Tim Bray , jsonpath@ietf.org References: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_G=c3=b6ssner?= Message-ID: <5f257963-74a1-26a6-413a-ce9e16292180@goessner.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 10:38:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------47B6286EEE02E738C8F6A79C" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ksXqZOkOzR4gR/ZW3R/o6lcPNkzcn3uc3aYA+Nz2GNaddKgX1KW WOhUO/Q9Q9FHBerGkQlj7A+kMkgTbLQamSJ09+QfNFkZWU+ME/AILdU22wdDaPVv4OcPLob 7WI5mHQIjXqcBBL2K0KunwBTkuQvxI1jBcK/IMpj2Qncj2NM7DmqULTBmTJEPIKv17BkjAj tu3JGE7HVjOl1+xZ1/hyg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:6ldbkW2QVPI=:t72///YIYc7lcpU666LxP7 I9sPGCbKsMabyUvCxiMjJzySg3mFrG8yg451NC/3Gx+qlqh0JG8mc4I4ZBRn9lIZ3afRwXu77 YVsSzQyifkjGk/fIJiYO+uaAxK3KPFtKZKMEACbErKKvtOuGUuDoAZTujuNk7JvtoyzjM/Rnw PdlufBxj+i1Ur1euFBq4JjgYZMgM9HG3IXGCIxxRj/hND3pV4FYiW8lww0m4JML25guIb2TXr Do2e55GJ8H96/04KS/wvp6ZN6R2HCnvcZ2LUqhEaCNfalmwQv+u/j94+J4S+xdXQoxvN708el WoXnCYkSj5HAMYuEiUMfbn8VHTp5pTAYcC0M6n579E2usRUGLAsNmO/gmnadZEPxp5Ql6ySE5 Jg3Vj/d8x0V9hLKmIDAXJFMD+fvdNGOqQ7y7tz0iUSOqTEoAgAfNYCa6vwKzysvrXcqRX+VaU kWSJG5TF8tTR7MT+ebpH9dNyy+g8wnwPYwJ13AvTybHaRyRwJEHSJs9I4UoPN3iOJ8MeBXGiJ vE5BMAGLCEHohdjV6wR2Ms= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 08:38:13 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------47B6286EEE02E738C8F6A79C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I collected some topics worth discussing from my point of view ... /* ========== ## Topics - June interims meeting ### Terminology * *primitive/atomic/simple* value types vs. *complex/structured/container* value types. Two common terms seem to be needed here. ### Selectors * Fundamental point is the alternate wording in text ... :     * ... selects a value.     * ... selects a node. Both is possible with Jsonpath, but we should stick with one throughout the text. * Is a dot-member name allowed to start with a DIGIT? * Are unions allowed to contain wild cards, descendant-selectors and filter-selectors ? * Do we need to specify the order of evaluation of the `descendant-selector`? * Discuss the proposed lean backward compatible syntax `[?]` in contrast to original `[?()]`. * Discuss proposal of `in-op` operator. * Should comparison with structured values be allowed? * What's the opinion about supporting functions? Related to this is: How to access a specific member in `{...,"key":5,...}` via filter expression `[?@...]` ? ==========*/ -- sg Am 14.06.2021 um 06:07 schrieb Tim Bray: > I don't know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time > looking at our PR list and, while I have opinions about the details, I > think it's difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these > discussions over the last week or so. > > This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us > through which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are > considered "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting. > > Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the meeting > that would also be useful. > > > Virenfrei. www.avg.com > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > --------------47B6286EEE02E738C8F6A79C Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I collected some topics worth discussing from my point of view ...

/* ==========

## Topics - June interims meeting

### Terminology

* *primitive/atomic/simple* value types vs. *complex/structured/container* value types. Two common terms seem to be needed here.
 

### Selectors

* Fundamental point is the alternate wording in text ... :
    * ... selects a value.
    * ... selects a node.

Both is possible with Jsonpath, but we should stick with one throughout the text.

* Is a dot-member name allowed to start with a DIGIT?
* Are unions allowed to contain wild cards, descendant-selectors and filter-selectors ?
* Do we need to specify the order of evaluation of the `descendant-selector`?
* Discuss the proposed lean backward compatible syntax `[?<expr>]` in contrast to original `[?(<expr>)]`.
* Discuss proposal of `in-op` operator.
* Should comparison with structured values be allowed?
* What's the opinion about supporting functions? Related to this is: How to access a specific member in `{...,"key":5,...}` via filter expression `[?@...]` ?

==========*/

--
sg





Am 14.06.2021 um 06:07 schrieb Tim Bray:
I don't know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time looking at our PR list and, while I have opinions about the details, I think it's difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these discussions over the last week or so.  

This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us through which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are considered "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting.

Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the meeting that would also be useful.

Virenfrei. www.avg.com


--------------47B6286EEE02E738C8F6A79C-- From nobody Mon Jun 14 01:39:48 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F0D3A1BA6 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 01:39:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TxyX30j3o2Br for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 01:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BA433A1BA4 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 01:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dcc89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4G3PyM5dTWz2xGS; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 10:39:39 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <5f257963-74a1-26a6-413a-ce9e16292180@goessner.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 10:39:39 +0200 Cc: Tim Bray , jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 645352779.456848-02b4f2b3211fd31b0c8d80ab9cd96acb Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <970DDA69-9558-4FF6-8E59-F4F4E325B930@tzi.org> References: <5f257963-74a1-26a6-413a-ce9e16292180@goessner.net> To: =?utf-8?Q?Stefan_G=C3=B6ssner?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 08:39:47 -0000 I=E2=80=99m using these now for making my slides=E2=80=A6 Plan to have them ready to look at before 0930Z. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > On 2021-06-14, at 10:38, Stefan G=C3=B6ssner = wrote: >=20 > I collected some topics worth discussing from my point of view ... >=20 > /* =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > ## Topics - June interims meeting >=20 > ### Terminology >=20 > * *primitive/atomic/simple* value types vs. = *complex/structured/container* value types. Two common terms seem to be = needed here. > =20 >=20 > ### Selectors >=20 > * Fundamental point is the alternate wording in text ... : > * ... selects a value. > * ... selects a node. >=20 > Both is possible with Jsonpath, but we should stick with one = throughout the text. >=20 > * Is a dot-member name allowed to start with a DIGIT? > * Are unions allowed to contain wild cards, descendant-selectors and = filter-selectors ? > * Do we need to specify the order of evaluation of the = `descendant-selector`? > * Discuss the proposed lean backward compatible syntax `[?]` in = contrast to original `[?()]`. > * Discuss proposal of `in-op` operator. > * Should comparison with structured values be allowed? > * What's the opinion about supporting functions? Related to this is: = How to access a specific member in `{...,"key":5,...}` via filter = expression `[?@...]` ? >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D*/ >=20 > -- > sg >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Am 14.06.2021 um 06:07 schrieb Tim Bray: >> I don't know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time = looking at our PR list and, while I have opinions about the details, I = think it's difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these discussions = over the last week or so. =20 >>=20 >> This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us = through which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are = considered "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting. >>=20 >> Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the = meeting that would also be useful. >>=20 >> Virenfrei. www.avg.com >>=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath From nobody Mon Jun 14 01:54:18 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3865E3A1C09 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 01:54:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TnfzkYNQ3JzP for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 01:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 339EC3A1C05 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 01:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([87.123.195.221]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MJEpp-1lcYHa3xQh-00Kdv3; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 10:53:54 +0200 To: Carsten Bormann Cc: Tim Bray , jsonpath@ietf.org References: <5f257963-74a1-26a6-413a-ce9e16292180@goessner.net> <970DDA69-9558-4FF6-8E59-F4F4E325B930@tzi.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_G=c3=b6ssner?= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 10:53:51 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <970DDA69-9558-4FF6-8E59-F4F4E325B930@tzi.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FDEAD54F2E9FB67E93570CB9" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:mpUQl0Zyq5SYuKoXGVfIWWpf0O5S8IsrcA+Bxo9O8VoEZe9GZbq fo6sJifBf+SsIp1LzC7JiMWs/bdHs5RCcDaTOVbs0t9VwnLu0n2F05U/cfZZZJysA7r2YAT ilipg42LxSD9IbkEIFKT465MzMGXmubXMf609L6v76TadXb2zFtWVpaax0Kz8kAjQxLcOMZ 7IFPvzM4I79wRLC5XK9Rw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:A5qJMstW/4g=:juWOWsdXZbtBR0Y63o2kk4 IlIMW8o2UhYm83jr/2rOZnqgcSElXLWyPeYxRqoyghkHuGaLC2h2+XQV0KJf2b9GuMvWIDP54 fNyM9sphduXu3i4jIzR2s+mJIa59Eh47qULMOc0ZwaXMrTjwCZZQx3C/DaiquL/yggWqYj9J9 x8uZCz3QDtd6mxwvsWqqK3hk3kNcPVEGBGo0X5tIbWSiobpRM52c0HQUWqWgLI/xJZvTha7+y dSceq1kCdjQakRvR0DZ5YKuCloIsjWBkrO2y2cMHmlB0d14cADIRfwuABrm8/kvpaa+GJPZ5G 6tvFjAkxDSN+FXslW3rDmLS/bzc2IR8UkV9WNuWjrY+fXLeZLCnCXQfwIGnDJs+5GFmtYUral rU/3DDyjvMDfa9u/TbT6GnADs7A1iIvvJ9gE+rLfpsMSSOzfS2Kbm125/FgIbdNP/iCQ0vumi /nzja447H5TVuD2YVWgW7lhsDL3j6zLyfy97YhLjVLEmLv6BsMBk7sxfJUnsalZg7I6DszJYI nZdUWj1nDQ9ndDkraj8Y7s= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 08:54:16 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FDEAD54F2E9FB67E93570CB9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I forgot ### Selectors * What's the opinion about support of arithmetic operators in filter expressions? -- sg Am 14.06.2021 um 10:39 schrieb Carsten Bormann: > I’m using these now for making my slides… > > Plan to have them ready to look at before 0930Z. > > Grüße, Carsten > > >> On 2021-06-14, at 10:38, Stefan Gössner wrote: >> >> I collected some topics worth discussing from my point of view ... >> >> /* ========== >> >> ## Topics - June interims meeting >> >> ### Terminology >> >> * *primitive/atomic/simple* value types vs. *complex/structured/container* value types. Two common terms seem to be needed here. >> >> >> ### Selectors >> >> * Fundamental point is the alternate wording in text ... : >> * ... selects a value. >> * ... selects a node. >> >> Both is possible with Jsonpath, but we should stick with one throughout the text. >> >> * Is a dot-member name allowed to start with a DIGIT? >> * Are unions allowed to contain wild cards, descendant-selectors and filter-selectors ? >> * Do we need to specify the order of evaluation of the `descendant-selector`? >> * Discuss the proposed lean backward compatible syntax `[?]` in contrast to original `[?()]`. >> * Discuss proposal of `in-op` operator. >> * Should comparison with structured values be allowed? >> * What's the opinion about supporting functions? Related to this is: How to access a specific member in `{...,"key":5,...}` via filter expression `[?@...]` ? >> >> ==========*/ >> >> -- >> sg >> >> >> >> >> >> Am 14.06.2021 um 06:07 schrieb Tim Bray: >>> I don't know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time looking at our PR list and, while I have opinions about the details, I think it's difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these discussions over the last week or so. >>> >>> This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us through which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are considered "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting. >>> >>> Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the meeting that would also be useful. >>> >>> Virenfrei. www.avg.com >>> >> >> -- >> Jsonpath mailing list >> Jsonpath@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath > --------------FDEAD54F2E9FB67E93570CB9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I forgot

### Selectors

* What's the opinion about support of arithmetic operators in filter expressions?

--
sg


Am 14.06.2021 um 10:39 schrieb Carsten Bormann:
I’m using these now for making my slides…

Plan to have them ready to look at before 0930Z.

Grüße, Carsten



On 2021-06-14, at 10:38, Stefan Gössner <stefan@goessner.net> wrote:

I collected some topics worth discussing from my point of view ...

/* ==========

## Topics - June interims meeting

### Terminology

* *primitive/atomic/simple* value types vs. *complex/structured/container* value types. Two common terms seem to be needed here.
 

### Selectors

* Fundamental point is the alternate wording in text ... :
    * ... selects a value.
    * ... selects a node.

Both is possible with Jsonpath, but we should stick with one throughout the text.

* Is a dot-member name allowed to start with a DIGIT?
* Are unions allowed to contain wild cards, descendant-selectors and filter-selectors ?
* Do we need to specify the order of evaluation of the `descendant-selector`?
* Discuss the proposed lean backward compatible syntax `[?<expr>]` in contrast to original `[?(<expr>)]`.
* Discuss proposal of `in-op` operator.
* Should comparison with structured values be allowed?
* What's the opinion about supporting functions? Related to this is: How to access a specific member in `{...,"key":5,...}` via filter expression `[?@...]` ?

==========*/

--
sg





Am 14.06.2021 um 06:07 schrieb Tim Bray:

I don't know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time looking at our PR list and, while I have opinions about the details, I think it's difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these discussions over the last week or so.  

This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us through which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are considered "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting.

Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the meeting that would also be useful.

	Virenfrei. www.avg.com



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--------------FDEAD54F2E9FB67E93570CB9-- From nobody Mon Jun 14 02:01:29 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968393A1C4E for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 02:01:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VeJD2F38hWJ1 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 02:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35D423A1C4D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 02:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dcc89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4G3QRP2mYrz2xH8; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 11:01:21 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <970DDA69-9558-4FF6-8E59-F4F4E325B930@tzi.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 11:01:20 +0200 Cc: Tim Bray , jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 645354080.843289-8b9438f24b378aa5a75c018c68cba4ae Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5f257963-74a1-26a6-413a-ce9e16292180@goessner.net> <970DDA69-9558-4FF6-8E59-F4F4E325B930@tzi.org> To: =?utf-8?Q?Stefan_G=C3=B6ssner?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 09:01:28 -0000 On 2021-06-14, at 10:39, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > Plan to have them ready to look at before 0930Z. I put them up at = https://github.com/ietf-wg-jsonpath/slides-wip/blob/main/2021-06-15-jsonpa= th-cabo.pdf (I could have put them into meeting materials, but I=E2=80=99d rather = keep any issues, comments, outside of that repo.) I also put the markdown source there, = https://github.com/ietf-wg-jsonpath/slides-wip/blob/main/2021-06-15-jsonpa= th-cabo.md Please be bold and edit... 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Indeed. I already had that on slide 9, so I didn=E2=80=99t add a slide (but I of = course could). Obviously, slide 13 to 19 are still placeholders; I plan to fill in some = of the discussion in #98 if there is any. I think the underlying problem (and solution) is that we need to clearly = separate the expression language from the way it is used in the = selectors; that will clean up both and be simpler to work with. 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I plan to fill in some of the discussion in #98 if there is any. > > I think the underlying problem (and solution) is that we need to clearly separate the expression language from the way it is used in the selectors; that will clean up both and be simpler to work with. > > Grüße, Carsten > > From nobody Mon Jun 14 02:16:53 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD753A1CD2 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 02:16:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nt7EHaEanvFK for ; 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Mon, 14 Jun 2021 02:52:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0CB072D0-915E-48C9-9777-A274EB871F60@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <0CB072D0-915E-48C9-9777-A274EB871F60@tzi.org> From: Glyn Normington Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 10:52:48 +0100 Message-ID: To: Carsten Bormann Cc: Tim Bray , jsonpath@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 09:53:06 -0000 > I would prefer if we could merge the ready-to-merge PRs (#94, #101) and g= et the other ones rebased on those. > With enough time before tomorrow=E2=80=99s meeting that we can still prep= are slides. I have merged PRs 94 & 101 and asked the raisers of the two other non-draft PRs to rebase. On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 06:32, Carsten Bormann wrote: > > On 14. Jun 2021, at 06:07, Tim Bray wrote: > > > I don't know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time looki= ng at our PR list and, while I have opinions about the details, I think it'= s difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these discussions over the las= t week or so. > > > I would prefer if we could merge the ready-to-merge PRs (#94, #101) and g= et the other ones rebased on those. > With enough time before tomorrow=E2=80=99s meeting that we can still prep= are slides. > > Can the document authors please get the merging done quickly, so the subm= itters can rebase their PRs? > This is not the time to be shy =E2=80=94 I know there are authors on the = document that are invisible, but this will have to be done by the ones who = have been doing the work. > > (I apologise for forking #99 off #98; I hope I have explained why the too= ling made this necessary. > I don=E2=80=99t know how =E2=80=9Calive=E2=80=9D #75 is; the actual PR wo= uld need rebasing after the selector work has progressed.) > > So there really only is > > =E2=80=94 #97, which after rebasing is a single remaining change. That n= eeds discussion, because it is indicative of a fundamental problem we haven= =E2=80=99t addressed yet. > =E2=80=94 #99 (with most of the discussion in the thread on #98), which d= esperately needs to be split up into smaller PRs building on top of each ot= her. > > This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us thro= ugh which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are consider= ed "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting. > > > I can certainly make a slide or two on the remaining significant terminol= ogy issue. > (That doesn=E2=80=99t mean terminology is otherwise done, it=E2=80=99s ju= st good enough that work can continue on technical content.) > > Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the meeting th= at would also be useful. > > > Given the short time remaining, I=E2=80=99d prefer to do that in the form= of slideware. > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath From nobody Mon Jun 14 05:40:07 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257793A22F4 for ; 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Mon, 14 Jun 2021 12:39:58 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 12:39:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Greg Dennis To: Carsten Bormann , Glyn Normington Cc: "jsonpath@ietf.org" , Tim Bray Message-ID: <1762295565.3357364.1623674396589@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <0CB072D0-915E-48C9-9777-A274EB871F60@tzi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3357363_396502904.1623674396587" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.18368 YMailNorrin Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 12:40:05 -0000 ------=_Part_3357363_396502904.1623674396587 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable #97 has been rebased. Carsten, would you explain your understanding of the difference between str= ing in JSON and strings in JSONPath, please?=C2=A0 Isn't JSONPath built on = JSON?=C2=A0 Wouldn't that necessitate the same definition?=C2=A0 You've bee= n rather aggressive with comments on strings, but you haven't offered any a= lternatives or reasons for your objections.=C2=A0 You've simply stated that= what Stefan and I have written is wrong.=C2=A0 (I've tried to follow from = your "slides," but they seem more like fragmented notes: reminders of talki= ng points for you.=C2=A0 There's not really much reasoning to follow in the= re.) My primary objection to the use of "literals" (and why I used "values" inst= ead) is that we discussed and agreed using "values" in the previous meeting= .=C2=A0 We never discussed the word "literal."=C2=A0 If this is the directi= on you'd like us to go, that's fine, but we need to discuss it first.=C2=A0= Instead, you've both proposed it and urgently pushed for it on both of the= major change sets. On Monday, June 14, 2021, 09:53:11 PM GMT+12, Glyn Normington wrote: =20 =20 > I would prefer if we could merge the ready-to-merge PRs (#94, #101) and = get the other ones rebased on those. > With enough time before tomorrow=E2=80=99s meeting that we can still prep= are slides. I have merged PRs 94 & 101 and asked the raisers of the two other non-draft PRs to rebase. On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 06:32, Carsten Bormann wrote: > > On 14. Jun 2021, at 06:07, Tim Bray wrote: > > > I don't know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time looki= ng at our PR list and, while I have opinions about the details, I think it'= s difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these discussions over the las= t week or so. > > > I would prefer if we could merge the ready-to-merge PRs (#94, #101) and g= et the other ones rebased on those. > With enough time before tomorrow=E2=80=99s meeting that we can still prep= are slides. > > Can the document authors please get the merging done quickly, so the subm= itters can rebase their PRs? > This is not the time to be shy =E2=80=94 I know there are authors on the = document that are invisible, but this will have to be done by the ones who = have been doing the work. > > (I apologise for forking #99 off #98; I hope I have explained why the too= ling made this necessary. > I don=E2=80=99t know how =E2=80=9Calive=E2=80=9D #75 is; the actual PR wo= uld need rebasing after the selector work has progressed.) > > So there really only is > > =E2=80=94 #97, which after rebasing is a single remaining change.=C2=A0 T= hat needs discussion, because it is indicative of a fundamental problem we = haven=E2=80=99t addressed yet. > =E2=80=94 #99 (with most of the discussion in the thread on #98), which d= esperately needs to be split up into smaller PRs building on top of each ot= her. > > This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us thro= ugh which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are consider= ed "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting. > > > I can certainly make a slide or two on the remaining significant terminol= ogy issue. > (That doesn=E2=80=99t mean terminology is otherwise done, it=E2=80=99s ju= st good enough that work can continue on technical content.) > > Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the meeting th= at would also be useful. > > > Given the short time remaining, I=E2=80=99d prefer to do that in the form= of slideware. > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath --=20 Jsonpath mailing list Jsonpath@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath =20 ------=_Part_3357363_396502904.1623674396587 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Carsten, would you explain your understanding of the difference= between string in JSON and strings in JSONPath, please?  Isn't JSONPa= th built on JSON?  Wouldn't that necessitate the same definition? = ; You've been rather aggressive with comments on strings, but you haven't o= ffered any alternatives or reasons for your objections.  You've simply= stated that what Stefan and I have written is wrong.  (I've tried to = follow from your "slides," but they seem more like fragmented notes: remind= ers of talking points for you.  There's not really much reasoning to f= ollow in there.)

My primary objection to the use of= "literals" (and why I used "values" instead) is that we discussed and agre= ed using "values" in the previous meeting.  We never discussed the wor= d "literal."  If this is the direction you'd like us to go, that's fin= e, but we need to discuss it first.  Instead, you've both proposed it = and urgently pushed for it on both of the major change sets.

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On Monday, June 14, 2021, 09:53:11 PM GMT+12, Glyn Norm= ington <glyn.normington.work@gmail.com> wrote:


> I would prefer if we could merge= the ready-to-merge PRs (#94, #101) and get the other ones rebased on those= .
> With enough time before tomorrow=E2=80=99s meeting= that we can still prepare slides.

I h= ave merged PRs 94 & 101 and asked the raisers of the two other
non-draft PRs to rebase.

On = Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 06:32, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> = wrote:
>
> On 14. Jun 2021, at 06= :07, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> wrote:
>
>
> I don't know= who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time looking at our PR l= ist and, while I have opinions about the details, I think it's difficult to= follow the rapid evolution of these discussions over the last week or so.<= br clear=3D"none">>
>
> I woul= d prefer if we could merge the ready-to-merge PRs (#94, #101) and get the o= ther ones rebased on those.
> With enough time before = tomorrow=E2=80=99s meeting that we can still prepare slides.
>
> Can the document authors please get the mer= ging done quickly, so the submitters can rebase their PRs?
> This is not the time to be shy =E2=80=94 I know there are authors on= the document that are invisible, but this will have to be done by the ones= who have been doing the work.
>
>= ; (I apologise for forking #99 off #98; I hope I have explained why the too= ling made this necessary.
> I don=E2=80=99t know how = =E2=80=9Calive=E2=80=9D #75 is; the actual PR would need rebasing after the= selector work has progressed.)
>
&g= t; So there really only is
>
> = =E2=80=94 #97, which after rebasing is a single remaining change.  Tha= t needs discussion, because it is indicative of a fundamental problem we ha= ven=E2=80=99t addressed yet.
> =E2=80=94 #99 (with mos= t of the discussion in the thread on #98), which desperately needs to be sp= lit up into smaller PRs building on top of each other.
&g= t;
> This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their= help in walking us through which of these selector--definition and termino= logy issues are considered "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting.
>
>
> I can cer= tainly make a slide or two on the remaining significant terminology issue.<= br clear=3D"none">> (That doesn=E2=80=99t mean terminology is otherwise = done, it=E2=80=99s just good enough that work can continue on technical con= tent.)
>
> Should someone want to= post a summary/overview note before the meeting that would also be useful.=
>
>
> Given= the short time remaining, I=E2=80=99d prefer to do that in the form of sli= deware.
>
> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Cars= ten
>
> --
>= Jsonpath mailing list
> Jsonpath@ietf.org=
> https://www.i= etf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath
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Thank you. Please see my recent comment. > Carsten, would you explain your understanding of the difference = between string in JSON and strings in JSONPath, please? =20 This is best explained in my draft slides, = https://github.com/ietf-wg-jsonpath/slides-wip/blob/main/2021-06-15-jsonpa= th-cabo.pdf > Isn't JSONPath built on JSON? Wouldn't that necessitate the same = definition? =20 That is getting to the core of the issue. The definitions in RFC 8259 (actually, there is no formal definitions = section there) cannot be used without additional salting, as they do not = distinguish between the data and the notation. JSONPath does not operate on JSON notation (=E2=80=9CJSON text=E2=80=9D = in RFC 8259), but on JSON data. So we have to do the work RFC 8259 didn=E2=80=99t. > You've been rather aggressive s/aggressive/terse/ > with comments on strings, but you haven't offered any alternatives or = reasons for your objections. You've simply stated that what Stefan and = I have written is wrong. (I've tried to follow from your "slides," but = they seem more like fragmented notes: reminders of talking points for = you. There's not really much reasoning to follow in there.) OK, so maybe we do need to discuss this online tomorrow. > My primary objection to the use of "literals" (and why I used "values" = instead) is that we discussed and agreed using "values" in the previous = meeting. =20 Of course, because we do need the values (I wanted to be more explicit = here, but we arrived at using the RFC 8259 terms here). We also need the notation for the values, and a common word for that has = been =E2=80=9Cliteral=E2=80=9D (see ECMA-262 for many examples). > We never discussed the word "literal." If this is the direction you'd = like us to go, that's fine, but we need to discuss it first. Instead, = you've both proposed it and urgently pushed for it on both of the major = change sets. I think we have a different perception of how common this term is, so = that may explain our different perception of how necessary a discussion = of this term is. It sure was good enough for ECMA-262. 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Mon, 14 Jun 2021 19:23:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 19:22:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Greg Dennis Reply-To: Greg Dennis To: "jsonpath@ietf.org" Message-ID: <1661516072.3436276.1623698578660@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3436275_93392562.1623698578658" References: <1661516072.3436276.1623698578660.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.18368 YahooMailAndroidMobile Archived-At: Subject: [Jsonpath] PRs 98, 99, and 102 X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 19:23:13 -0000 ------=_Part_3436275_93392562.1623698578658 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We now have three PRs covering the same material, with conversations occurring in all of them. This makes it very difficult to track what's the latest and what conversations have been resolved. ------=_Part_3436275_93392562.1623698578658 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We now have three PRs covering the same material, with conversations occurring in all of them.

This makes it very difficult to track what's the latest and what conversations have been resolved.
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From nobody Mon Jun 14 22:51:38 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9345D3A20FD for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 22:51:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.886 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.886 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_REMOTE_IMAGE=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KYfalc02R-xS for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 22:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 168573A20FB for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 22:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([88.130.51.65]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MFbFW-1m5c6Z1NrK-00HAgz; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 07:51:21 +0200 To: Tim Bray , jsonpath@ietf.org References: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_G=c3=b6ssner?= Message-ID: <30ae248c-2090-6055-b537-e82bf25dee45@goessner.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 07:51:19 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------E9B4D5165B4001BD087E4F1D" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:E5yyKy2co+To80M7nAIKzCw+X8ByCM+1pwvqjMvPuMe0taysCz0 KJwpi502s6uMCLfn0qxanUZcDutzJyjmT7jL804vP+uyc/1/rYgc4MfYdYG4S8n+ReP1VKx FiUj3c6/hmJ1rpVcDqEqyygh7mJBo/sE1nWSMskeWUgGDiKEJ4dvM+Ujplito8l8eMsvA/i eMUR06GJ8mcH393/ON1/Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:YncuFW5ejqY=:VQMJ5uv5kzZ6LRCOq0PKP1 diz1b98isr+x5bLdtkSxYyASOAEi9PgOHh273gP/OOT66eia8c2JT3xDsihKPvkI1h+hgT18b eNR5pn7moyapBFt8RYO1/pzpEWwLt4NB9iLYnjUSADGHIgoJcX6PTWGCHBxW7xm9G1Un8u/Xu 0mArwrLqrBocbfAxfLJGWIJyaa17n8wMjBy9Ps4159XZo5M5kWcyveHPEz9NLTRTyAZHV1igm 0jQsuR6vXAHQxPKssagcR4K6+qSa5PH+WwVnXYo4ehMhUmAVVDavY7jen+fTpj6VA0T44BNYb Zfu7negiHFyH6sL47/rgiMludmWJ5TcPpmHCVlHoGz4i7JfA0J09lH6DGDON5fQH29XDrZdhP cH63fI/Xddh5gdhSS551iTVU/QOBS6hO5it7j+sfD54o58xj2NGbU2TWQwGLf1f+oxqQH68qg XJOxgpxiO/4V+zhY+tvzsJ6opRVNh0t0HjLZC2fEof5QJGWRSaffbtyICx3TK8rv1pj2n4lB7 wDjL798pVGU4eMc8BREgMU= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 05:51:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E9B4D5165B4001BD087E4F1D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ... can't find the webex meeting link ... ? -- sg Am 14.06.2021 um 06:07 schrieb Tim Bray: > I don't know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time > looking at our PR list and, while I have opinions about the details, I > think it's difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these > discussions over the last week or so. > > This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us > through which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are > considered "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting. > > Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the meeting > that would also be useful. > > > Virenfrei. www.avg.com > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > --------------E9B4D5165B4001BD087E4F1D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ... can't find the webex meeting link ... ?
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Am 14.06.2021 um 06:07 schrieb Tim Bray:
I don't know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time looking at our PR list and, while I have opinions about the details, I think it's difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these discussions over the last week or so.  

This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us through which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are considered "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting.

Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the meeting that would also be useful.

Virenfrei. www.avg.com


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I can't find the coordinates for today's meeting e= ither.

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 06:51, Stefan G=C3=B6ssner <stefan@goessner.net> wrote:
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... can't find the web= ex meeting link ... ?
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Am 14.06.2021 um 06:07 schrieb Tim Bray:
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I don't = know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time lookin= g at our PR list and, while I have opinions=C2=A0about the details,= I think it's difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these discussions over the last week or so. =C2=A0

This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us through which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are considered "open" and worthy=C2=A0of WG time= at the meeting.

Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the meeting that would also be useful.

Vi= renfrei. www.avg.com


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On Thursday, May 27, 2021, 01:07:19 AM GMT+12, IESG Secretary wrote: =20 =20 The JSON Path (jsonpath) WG will hold a virtual interim meeting on 2021-06-15 from 09:00 to 11:00 UTC. Agenda: # jsonpath IETF Working Group May 2021 Interim Agenda Date: 2021-06-15 Time: 9:00 - 11:00 UTC Chair: Tim Bray Chair: James Gruessing Area Director: Francesca Palombini * [Datatracker](https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/jsonpath/about/) * [Jabber](xmpp:jsonpath@jabber.ietf.org?join) * [Minutes](https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-interim-2021-jsonpath-02) ## VC Details https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=3D84108259-728f-49d3-8f8a= -b068eeae44bd ## Agenda ### Administrivia * Note Takers * Blue Sheets * Jabber Scribe * Agenda Bashing ### Discussion of Issues List of issues to discuss to be finalised later ### AOB Information about remote participation: https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=3D84108259-728f-49d3-8f8a= -b068eeae44bd --=20 Jsonpath mailing list Jsonpath@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath =20 ------=_Part_79509_2001053485.1623738128011 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On Thursday, May 27, 2021, 01:07:19 AM GMT+12, IESG Sec= retary <iesg-secretary@ietf.org> wrote:


The JSON Path (jsonpath) WG will hold=
a virtual interim meeting on 2021-06-15 from 09:= 00 to 11:00 UTC.

Agend= a:
# jsonpath IETF Working Group May 2021 Interim= Agenda

Date: 2021-06-= 15
Time: 9:00 - 11:00 UTC

Chair: Tim Bray
Cha= ir: James Gruessing
Area Director: Francesca Palo= mbini


## VC Details

## Agenda

### Administrivia
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* Note Takers
* Blue Sheets
* Jabber Scribe
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### Discussion of Issues

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### AOB
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Looks like we are using meetecho rather than WebEx this time. On Tue, 15 Jun 2021, 07:22 Greg Dennis, wrote: > Forwarding for all. Is this what people are after? > > On Thursday, May 27, 2021, 01:07:19 AM GMT+12, IESG Secretary < > iesg-secretary@ietf.org> wrote: > > > The JSON Path (jsonpath) WG will hold > a virtual interim meeting on 2021-06-15 from 09:00 to 11:00 UTC. > > Agenda: > # jsonpath IETF Working Group May 2021 Interim Agenda > > Date: 2021-06-15 > Time: 9:00 - 11:00 UTC > > Chair: Tim Bray > Chair: James Gruessing > Area Director: Francesca Palombini > > * [Datatracker](https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/jsonpath/about/) > * [Jabber](xmpp:jsonpath@jabber.ietf.org?join) > * [Minutes](https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-interim-2021-jsonpath-02) > > ## VC Details > > https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=84108259-728f-49d3-8f8a-b068eeae44bd > > ## Agenda > > ### Administrivia > > * Note Takers > * Blue Sheets > * Jabber Scribe > * Agenda Bashing > > ### Discussion of Issues > > List of issues to discuss to be finalised later > > ### AOB > > Information about remote participation: > > https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=84108259-728f-49d3-8f8a-b068eeae44bd > > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath > -- > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath > --000000000000838d7b05c4c849b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Greg. Looks like we are using meetecho rather than= WebEx this time.

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021, 07:22 Greg Dennis, <gregsdennis=3D= 40yahoo.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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The JSON Path (jsonpath) WG will hold=
a virtual interim meeting on 2021-06-15 from 09:= 00 to 11:00 UTC.

Agend= a:
# jsonpath IETF Working Group May 2021 Interim= Agenda

Date: 2021-06-= 15
Time: 9:00 - 11:00 UTC

Chair: Tim Bray
Cha= ir: James Gruessing
Area Director: Francesca Palo= mbini

* [Jabber](xmpp:jso= npath@jabber.ietf.org?join)

## V= C Details

## Agenda

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### Administrivia

* Note Takers
* Blue Sheets
* Jabber Scribe
* Agenda Bashin= g

### Discussion of Is= sues

List of issues to= discuss to be finalised later

### AOB

Infor= mation about remote participation:

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boundary="----=_Part_89114_1905993500.1623747290561" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.18469 YMailNorrin Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 08:55:05 -0000 ------=_Part_89114_1905993500.1623747290561 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DataTracker doesn't seem to be recognizing my login.=C2=A0 I tried a reset= , but it says it can't find my account. On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 08:52:34 PM GMT+12, Francesca Palombini wrote: =20 =20 =20 https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=3D84108259-728f-49d3-8f8a= -b068eeae44bd =20 =C2=A0 =20 (starting in 8 minutes) =20 =C2=A0 =20 Francesca =20 From:Jsonpath on behalf of Glyn Normington Date: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 08:06 To: Stefan G=C3=B6ssner Cc: "jsonpath@ietf.org" , Tim Bray Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting =20 =C2=A0 =20 I can't find the coordinates for today's meeting either. =20 =C2=A0 =20 On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 06:51, Stefan G=C3=B6ssner wro= te: =20 ... can't find the webex meeting link ... ? -- sg =20 Am 14.06.2021 um 06:07 schrieb Tim Bray: =20 I don't know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time looking= at our PR list and, while I have opinions=C2=A0about the details, I think = it's difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these discussions over the = last week or so. =C2=A0 =20 =C2=A0 =20 This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us throug= h which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are considered= "open" and worthy=C2=A0of WG time at the meeting. =20 =C2=A0 =20 Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the meeting that= would also be useful. =20 =C2=A0 =20 |=20 |=20 Virenfrei.www.avg.com=20 | =20 =C2=A0 =20 --=20 Jsonpath mailing list Jsonpath@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath =20 --=20 Jsonpath mailing list Jsonpath@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath =20 ------=_Part_89114_1905993500.1623747290561 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=3D8410= 8259-728f-49d3-8f8a-b068eeae44bd

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From: Jsonpath <jsonp= ath-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Glyn Normington <glyn.normington.w= ork@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 08:06
To: Stefan G=C3=B6ssner <stefan@goessner.net>
Cc: "jsonpath@ietf.org" <jsonpath@ietf.org>, Tim Bray <tbra= y@textuality.com>
Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting

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... can't find the webex meeting link ...= ?
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Am 14.06.2021 um 06:07 schrieb Tim Bray:

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I don't know who's coming but I just sp= ent a certain amount of time looking at our PR list and, while I have opini= ons about the details, I think it's difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these discussions over the last week or so.  

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This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan= for their help in walking us through which of these selector--definition a= nd terminology issues are considered "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting.

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Should someone want to post a summary/o= verview note before the meeting that would also be useful.

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Tue, 15 Jun 2021 08:57:47 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 08:57:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Greg Dennis To: Carsten Bormann Cc: "jsonpath@ietf.org" Message-ID: <140972903.97051.1623747466874@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <30ae248c-2090-6055-b537-e82bf25dee45@goessner.net> <9CD83A55-B6B4-402E-B796-1976EA1FD230@ericsson.com> <289885557.89115.1623747290564@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_97050_1953482757.1623747466872" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.18469 YMailNorrin Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 08:57:54 -0000 ------=_Part_97050_1953482757.1623747466872 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tried that.=C2=A0 Says I don't have permission to create. On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 08:56:15 PM GMT+12, Carsten Bormann wrote: =20 =20 Still time to get a new one=E2=80=A6 Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > On 2021-06-15, at 10:54, Greg Dennis wrote: >=20 > DataTracker doesn't seem to be recognizing my login.=C2=A0 I tried a rese= t, but it says it can't find my account. >=20 > On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 08:52:34 PM GMT+12, Francesca Palombini wrote: >=20 >=20 > https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=3D84108259-728f-49d3-8f= 8a-b068eeae44bd >=20 >=C2=A0=20 > (starting in 8 minutes) >=20 >=C2=A0=20 > Francesca >=20 > From: Jsonpath on behalf of Glyn Normington <= glyn.normington.work@gmail.com> > Date: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 08:06 > To: Stefan G=C3=B6ssner > Cc: "jsonpath@ietf.org" , Tim Bray > Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting >=20 >=C2=A0=20 > I can't find the coordinates for today's meeting either. >=20 >=C2=A0=20 > On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 06:51, Stefan G=C3=B6ssner w= rote: >=20 > ... can't find the webex meeting link ... ? > -- > sg >=20 >=20 > Am 14.06.2021 um 06:07 schrieb Tim Bray: >=20 > I don't know who's coming but I just spent a certain amount of time looki= ng at our PR list and, while I have opinions about the details, I think it'= s difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these discussions over the las= t week or so.=C2=A0=20 >=20 >=C2=A0=20 > This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carsten/Stefan for their help in walking us thro= ugh which of these selector--definition and terminology issues are consider= ed "open" and worthy of WG time at the meeting. >=20 >=C2=A0=20 > Should someone want to post a summary/overview note before the meeting th= at would also be useful. >=20 >=C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 > Virenfrei. www.avg.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=C2=A0=20 > --=20 > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath >=20 > --=20 > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath > --=20 > Jsonpath mailing list > Jsonpath@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath =20 ------=_Part_97050_1953482757.1623747466872 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tried that.  Says I don= 't have permission to create.

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On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 08:56:15 PM GMT+12, Carsten = Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:


Still time to get a new one=E2=80=A6<= br clear=3D"none">

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Ca= rsten


> On 2021-06-15,= at 10:54, Greg Dennis <gregsdennis=3D40yahoo.com@d= marc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>= DataTracker doesn't seem to be recognizing my login.  I tried a reset= , but it says it can't find my account.
>
> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 08:52:34 PM GMT+12, Francesca Palomb= ini <francesca.palombini=3D40ericsson.com@dmarc.= ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
> https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=3D84= 108259-728f-49d3-8f8a-b068eeae44bd
>
> 
> (starting in 8 minutes)
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> 
> France= sca
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> From: Jsonpath <jsonpath-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Glyn Normingt= on <glyn.normington.work@gmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 at 08:06
&= gt; To: Stefan G=C3=B6ssner <stefan@goessner.net>> Cc: "jsonpath@ietf.org" <jsonpath@ietf.org>, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality= .com>
> Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim me= eting
>
> 
> I can't find the coordinates for today's meeting either.
>
> 
> On Tue= , 15 Jun 2021 at 06:51, Stefan G=C3=B6ssner <stefan@goessn= er.net> wrote:
>
> ... ca= n't find the webex meeting link ... ?
> --
> sg
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>
> Am 14.06.2021 um 06:07 schrieb Tim Bray:
> =
> I don't know who's coming but I just spent a certai= n amount of time looking at our PR list and, while I have opinions about th= e details, I think it's difficult to follow the rapid evolution of these di= scussions over the last week or so. 
>
> 
> This is to ask Greg/Glyn/Carst= en/Stefan for their help in walking us through which of these selector--def= inition and terminology issues are considered "open" and worthy of WG time = at the meeting.
>
> 
> Should someone want to post a summary/overview note befor= e the meeting that would also be useful.
>
> 
>
>
> Virenfrei. www.avg.com
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> 
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> Jsonpa= th mailing list
> Jsonpath@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org= /mailman/listinfo/jsonpath
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------=_Part_97050_1953482757.1623747466872-- From nobody Tue Jun 15 09:10:13 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1634D3A3515 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 09:10:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id owlnRHA2oal7 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 09:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4CAE3A350C for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 09:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dcc89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4G4Cvb2byZz2xHs; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 18:10:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 645466202.895293-f1d6a39ee418df0db94b75f4b373b61f Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 18:10:03 +0200 Message-Id: To: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Archived-At: Subject: [Jsonpath] ABNF X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 16:10:12 -0000 Just for your amusement... I fixed up the ABNF a bit so it actually parses, and here are a few = queries that have been generated as examples by abnfgen. (I hope there = aren=E2=80=99t too many insulting emojis in there=E2=80=A6) The queries are encoded in JSON strings so you can see the various = control characters, but of course now they are in backslash hell. Enjoy a nice puzzle for the evening fireplace=E2=80=A6 I like these example generators a lot; for instance the below reminds us = that =E2=80=9Cin=E2=80=9D can be written as =E2=80=9CIn=E2=80=9D, = =E2=80=9CiN=E2=80=9D, etc. To be fixed in future PRs. Updated #102 forthcoming... Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten 001: "$" 002: "$[\t \t\r\n 9\n\r:-1\n,:\n\r\t].=F4=89=AC=83896=F3=B6=95=B2" 003: "$[35]" 004: "$[*]" 005: "$[?(@ In ||@&&@.b[-3249]>=3D$.*&&@[-0].r=F1=96=A3=B5[8]>@&&@~=3D||@._ iN ||@[\"=F1=9B=83=A6\"]||@._S=F1=AE=B4=ABq&&@&&@.=F2=A5=A2=BA[\"!\"]= ._['\"\\r']||@['\\'\"']~=3D)][*][\"\"]" 006: "$[ \n: \n\t\r\r,\n-0:\r:,\r\t\n\"\",\"'\" ]" 007: "$[0 \r :,-0\r\t: \r\r\n 0: \t\r\t \n\n\n]" 008: "$.*[\"\"]" 009: "$..[*]" 010: "$[\n\"\\\"\\r\\\"\\\"\",0\r,\r83 :\r-21,2\n,\t'>' \n,\t402 = ,\t\t:-7110404\r,\t '\\''\t][*].=F1=92=96=9C" 011: "$[?@[''][0].E[17]._=F1=A8=A0=8E[-793]~=3D&&@.=F0=AA=AF=8C.o&&@!=3D@.=F0=94=80=8D||@.j IN &&@[\"'$\"]~=3D&&@[-0]][?(@>false)][-95:\r-9\n:-0\r][-28 ,'' ,\r0]" 012: "$[\t0\n\n:][?@.S.=F3=B5=84=82[\">\"] IN ||@>=3Dfalse||@._z=F1=BC=87=98._y&&@ iN ]" 013: "$.X_..[291]" 014: "$..[*][\n\t\n\n:\r\n\n\r\n-6:6\n\r, \t\n \t\r: :\r \t\r\t = \t][\r\t\"\\\\\\\"'\"\n,\t-6\n:: \n\n\n,0\n:\n-0\n].N4_=F3=A7=A9=A2" 015: "$.*[*]" 016: "$[\n:\t\t\r\n\t\r\r]..*.=F2=BF=A1=B0[ \t\n\r'',\n-8\n \r].=F3=97=87=A5= 7" 017: "$[?!(@~=3D)][*]..['\\'\\'\\f\"']" 018: "$[?!(@&&@.J In )]" 019: "$.=F3=A1=B0=9F[\t :\n\r\n\r-3][ \r: = \t\n\t:616,0\n\n:0][?!(@&&@~=3D||@['']&&@.Ox.q5_&&@!=3D'')][*][9566]" 020: "$.=F0=B4=A3=AA__=F2=98=87=A7_" 021: "$.*" 022: "$[-71\r\n:\r\r0].*..*[0 :0\t\n:\r = -5550\n\r][?@.__B&&@[-3]||@>=3Dtrue]" 023: "$.._9..['\\'\\bB']" 024: "$[?@ In ]" 025: "$.*[\t0,\n:\r-86\n\r\t\r:\n\t\n \t = \r19\r].*['',:\r\n:\r\t\r,\"\"\n\n,\t\"\"][\n \r:92\t,\r-0: \r304: ,\r = '\\n'\t\r,\t \t\r\r\n: \r\r2\t:\t\n\r\n,\n6\n ]" 026: "$[\n\n::\t\r]._[?@._YZ~=3D||@._._=F3=99=BA=BA.=F0=B9=97= =85v iN &&@.Z_&&@ in ][\r\t\r\n\n\r\t:\r\t = 0\n :0\r,\r:\r-5649 :\n\t\t -7640896,\r\r\t'#\\b\"!!',0\r\r:0:\r\r\r ]" 027: "$[ \r36:]" 028: "$[?(@>=3Dnull||@ In ||@&&@[31].=F2=9B=86=A6[-0]['=F2=B2=83=86'].__7=3D=3D\"\"&&@ In = &&@||@)]" 029: "$.*[?@ iN ||@&&@~=3D&&@&&@!=3D$&&@~=3D&&@]" 030: = "$[\"'\\\"\"]..*['\\'',\t\"&\",\"!\",\n-6765:9:-0\n]._[-92\t:-0\r\n\n:\t]"= 031: "$[\"\"]" 032: "$[?(@&&@&&@~=3D||@._3_~=3D)].*" 033: "$..[-950][*]" 034: "$[\"/\",\r:\t-0\n:\t\n-58\r]" 035: "$['']" 036: "$[\r:-0]" 037: "$.*['']" 038: "$[\"?\", \t:0][\"\"]" 039: "$[-0]" 040: "$[\n\t\n\t\n\n\t\r\t\r 0: \n\n -58]" 041: "$[\r\r\r \r-0,\"\"\n\n,\r\n-0\r\r \t:\t0\n:\n\r\t\r\r]" 042: "$.*._" 043: "$.*[?@[\"\\n\\\"\\\"\"].o[\"\"]&&@&&@ iN ||@ in &&@&&@[-11]!=3Dtrue&&@<=3Dnull&&@[\"\"] in ]._o[\n\r\"\",\n\n\n\r:,\t\t\"\"]" 044: "$[0\r:0\n:\r-7].._Qw" 045: "$.*.*" 046: "$[?@._&&@~=3D][\t ''\t\r,\r\r \n -0\r ,\n\r-0\n = \n\n\n].n0[\r\n:-758]" 047: "$.j_" From nobody Tue Jun 15 09:49:14 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CB63A3637 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 09:49:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_FAIL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q7NywDN3bUEm for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 09:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:32::19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 565903A3436 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 09:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dcc89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4G4DmX4XGGz2xHj; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 18:49:00 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 18:49:00 +0200 Cc: Tim Bray , jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 645468540.238655-3e1fafaf39e66637fc340b4eb2c9854e Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3DBF8F51-3BBF-439D-BDC2-8AE383DFA640@tzi.org> References: <0CB072D0-915E-48C9-9777-A274EB871F60@tzi.org> To: Glyn Normington X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 16:49:14 -0000 On 2021-06-14, at 11:52, Glyn Normington = wrote: >=20 > I have merged PRs 94 & 101 and asked the raisers of the two other > non-draft PRs to rebase. So here we are with #102, including some of the results of the interim = where they could be put in right away. I have sent out the review = requests; I hope we can merge this in the next 24 hours or so... Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Wed Jun 16 00:29:01 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416DB3A4F40 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 00:28:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CmHYbeFPfWlF for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 00:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64F4D3A4F3E for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 00:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([88.130.51.231]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MOzKm-1lfCVs0juO-00POkT; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:28:44 +0200 To: Carsten Bormann , Glyn Normington Cc: jsonpath@ietf.org, Tim Bray References: <0CB072D0-915E-48C9-9777-A274EB871F60@tzi.org> <3DBF8F51-3BBF-439D-BDC2-8AE383DFA640@tzi.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_G=c3=b6ssner?= Message-ID: <7a2e848d-dedd-673d-40e1-3f96b42c2443@goessner.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:28:42 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3DBF8F51-3BBF-439D-BDC2-8AE383DFA640@tzi.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------AF7C89BBD009D5DD0F34535B" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:FnMPIVUnJm4QzzRzjW1RjQLNyGE/+94Jo5iNrAXF9alN0X6SnOc YtCF762M1BHmfGQAG40DdUXNNZqZeAwtJ5ArL1lbiBP47a5/iijmnCJBcjbRWCzI6rbSNi6 bMlhsCgLsntu2h7PJZcMxSwJcv08sA2HSQBb5lhWBwh8Ua5dRDP/HqvnKf25lZmUNdEP8L2 dUxYNdSs+CN0fboKXGP4Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:n89xfJRVd2o=:qYlVgRBtVlrULL9rGDUEoI LIQDDdoNyeaufK6G4uj9jTan3/fvK960tIUCZzqo9NcKPUjuxBukO2hNBddZXn9d/UJcZWuzi Ba8MRyuuWhy+w5+lKt41fBf9xKKZYK4HnLYRgk+pjNJ2/w9wIQVfhOzEy4Ais9SqZLHBKKcOe Q68KatXE3p/cZfz2vveySjGZkFjsUIgUyk8M8vDbfRmP4j60Kphq7brAcCP0g59ox+hig6zvc auxrAugsHLpla93Ks4OUbtc3GHx5G84nfJqFkaonDNPT+bNhphtulZz45OF1iGmI2Qq4GoAR1 7Cc3iRu0YLp6V8Z5jT5qZdBgj/O7iuLpBH3/y1WAQ+RMntiJVuFr7tBZQM9haQxcPXbq9shlP tKllX7892UCdwFpyJNNn1B3RUFWx+Gzkhm25Rx/kz7E9SjKIBZv38TX5mZmJV9HiNY0MHFi8w dBMm5ik9YBYbn6M531b8DSV8TO9lw9d1hh/7LY3T+mKaCewCzs/Rrn9yjs5h47aUE3nV928Ci Ayu9d2POO+FBC3NwPOAndo= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 07:29:00 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AF7C89BBD009D5DD0F34535B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit With #102 we made a big step forward. Thanks to all -- sg Am 15.06.2021 um 18:49 schrieb Carsten Bormann: > On 2021-06-14, at 11:52, Glyn Normington wrote: >> I have merged PRs 94 & 101 and asked the raisers of the two other >> non-draft PRs to rebase. > So here we are with #102, including some of the results of the interim where they could be put in right away. I have sent out the review requests; I hope we can merge this in the next 24 hours or so... > > Grüße, Carsten > --------------AF7C89BBD009D5DD0F34535B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit With #102 we made a big step forward.

Thanks to all
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sg


Am 15.06.2021 um 18:49 schrieb Carsten Bormann:
On 2021-06-14, at 11:52, Glyn Normington <glyn.normington.work@gmail.com> wrote:

I have merged PRs 94 & 101 and asked the raisers of the two other
non-draft PRs to rebase.

So here we are with #102, including some of the results of the interim where they could be put in right away.  I have sent out the review requests; I hope we can merge this in the next 24 hours or so...

Grüße, Carsten

--------------AF7C89BBD009D5DD0F34535B-- From nobody Wed Jun 16 02:47:09 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: jsonpath@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7130C3A0D39 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 02:47:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_FAIL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hbd4eWSjX1Rz for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 02:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:32::19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 255223A0D2E for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 02:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dcc89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4G4gM74Psqz2xJ7; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 11:46:59 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <3DBF8F51-3BBF-439D-BDC2-8AE383DFA640@tzi.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 11:46:59 +0200 Cc: Tim Bray , jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 645529619.221175-633355de088cd9cdf0a1d0f10fcd69df Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0AEDC9CB-9774-413D-9B8F-7A20E36BC3E4@tzi.org> References: <0CB072D0-915E-48C9-9777-A274EB871F60@tzi.org> <3DBF8F51-3BBF-439D-BDC2-8AE383DFA640@tzi.org> To: Glyn Normington X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Jsonpath] June interim meeting X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:47:08 -0000 On 2021-06-15, at 18:49, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > So here we are with #102, including some of the results of the interim = where they could be put in right away. I have sent out the review = requests; I hope we can merge this in the next 24 hours or so=E2=80=A6 I think I have finished addressing the PR comments, so I would = appreciate if one of the non-vacationing editors would press the merge = button. 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Can we close #98 and #99 now? =20 =20 On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 at 9:47 pm, Carsten Bormann wrote: On= 2021-06-15, at 18:49, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > So here we are with #102, including some of the results of the interim wh= ere they could be put in right away.=C2=A0 I have sent out the review reque= sts; I hope we can merge this in the next 24 hours or so=E2=80=A6 I think I have finished addressing the PR comments, so I would appreciate i= f one of the non-vacationing editors would press the merge button. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten --=20 Jsonpath mailing list Jsonpath@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsonpath =20 ------=_Part_343786_126608720.1623840203131 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable #102 has been merged. Can we close #98 and #99 now?

On We= d, 16 Jun 2021 at 9:47 pm, Carsten Bormann
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On 2021-06-15, at 18:49, Carsten Borman= n <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
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> So here we are with #102, including some of the results of the in= terim where they could be put in right away.  I have sent out the revi= ew requests; I hope we can merge this in the next 24 hours or so=E2=80=A6
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Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:27:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:27:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Greg Dennis Reply-To: Greg Dennis To: "jsonpath@ietf.org" Message-ID: <1005253229.477586.1623875223504@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_477585_2037297639.1623875223503" References: <1005253229.477586.1623875223504.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.18469 YahooMailAndroidMobile Archived-At: Subject: [Jsonpath] Slack (again) X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:27:20 -0000 ------=_Part_477585_2037297639.1623875223503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to bring up the use of Slack again.=C2=A0 It's a really good tool = for building a community. I encourage everyone to head over to the JSON Schema Slack (link available = on http://json-schema.org/) and see how we use it there. We have over 2000 = members participating in various capacities.=C2=A0 And it never seems too n= oisy. It's mostly questions from users and discussion amongst implementors; stuff= that doesn't need archiving.=C2=A0 We've also set up channels for - Twitter mentions (scans Twitter for "JSON Schema")- Public places we see = Schema being used (sometimes in ways we never considered)- StackOverflow qu= estions (which our Slack already has)- GitHub updates (we also have this)- = and a few channels where we can just chat and get along I'm perfectly happy enforcing a policy that restricts discussion of specifi= cation topics, redirecting whomever to the mailing list or GitHub.=C2=A0 So= metimes it also helps to work out details in a more discussion-friendly env= ironment, then post the results of the discussion to an archival process. I also think we could use some other perspectives and a bit of diversity. Building a community is how we gain support for what were trying to do, and= to be honest, email isn't the mechanism that's going to build that communi= ty. Greg ------=_Part_477585_2037297639.1623875223503 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to bring up the use of Slack again.  It's a really good tool = for building a community.

I encoura= ge everyone to head over to the JSON Schema Slack (link available on http:/= /json-schema.org/) and see how we use it there. We have over 2000 members p= articipating in various capacities.  And it never seems too noisy.

It's mostly questions from users= and discussion amongst implementors; stuff that doesn't need archiving.&nb= sp; We've also set up channels for

- Twitter mentions (scans Twitter for "JSON Schema")
- Public places we see Schema bei= ng used (sometimes in ways we never considered)
- StackOverflow questions (which our Slack a= lready has)
- Git= Hub updates (we also have this)
- and a few channels where we can just chat and get along

I'm perfectly happy enforcing= a policy that restricts discussion of specification topics, redirecting wh= omever to the mailing list or GitHub.  Sometimes it also helps to work= out details in a more discussion-friendly environment, then post the resul= ts of the discussion to an archival process.

I also think we could use some other perspectives and a bit= of diversity.
Building a com= munity is how we gain support for what were trying to do, and to be honest,= email isn't the mechanism that's going to build that community.

Greg
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Sun, 27 Jun 2021 00:51:23 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 00:51:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Greg Dennis Reply-To: Greg Dennis To: "jsonpath@ietf.org" Message-ID: <1594462686.2396269.1624755076394@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2396268_1927271855.1624755076393" References: <1594462686.2396269.1624755076394.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.18469 YahooMailAndroidMobile Archived-At: Subject: [Jsonpath] Odd syntaxes in libraries X-BeenThere: jsonpath@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A summary description of the list to be included in the table on this page List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 00:51:30 -0000 ------=_Part_2396268_1927271855.1624755076393 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just came across a StackOverflow question (https://stackoverflow.com/a/68145809/878701) where the answer highlighted a feature of Jayway JsonPath: Filter Predicates (https://github.com/json-path/JsonPath) The syntax is a bracketed selector with a lone question mark: $.user[?]. This is akin to string interpolation or substitution where the question mark is eventually substituted for a filter that's defined in code. (I'm not sure what would happen if the user tried to "stringify" such a path.) My concern is that this kind of feature seems to say that this syntax is supported by JSON Path, when it's not. Just wanted to keep people aware of things found in the wild. Greg ------=_Part_2396268_1927271855.1624755076393 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just came across a StackOverflow question (https://stackoverflow.com/a/68= 145809/878701) where the answer highlighted a feature of Jayway JsonPath: F= ilter Predicates (https://github.com/json-path/JsonPath)

The syntax is a bracketed selector with a lone questi= on mark: $.user[?].

This is a= kin to string interpolation or substitution where the question mark is even= tually substituted for a filter that's defined in code. (I'm not sure what = would happen if the user tried to "stringify" such a path.)

My concern is that this kind of feature seem= s to say that this syntax is supported by JSON Path, when it's not.

Just wanted to keep people aware of = things found in the wild.

Gre= g
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