From jrefn@cinci.rr.com Sun May 06 15:19:58 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkmH0-0004Yh-0v for problem-archive@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 15:19:58 -0400 Received: from a251-222.adsl.paltel.net ([213.6.251.222]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkmGy-0006FE-Tu for problem-archive@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 15:19:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 7257 invoked from network); Sun, 6 May 2007 21:20:03 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO rtkoa) (173.195.226.159) by a251-222.adsl.paltel.net with SMTP; Sun, 6 May 2007 21:20:03 +0200 Message-ID: <001901c79013$8c7848a0$9fe2c3ad@rtkoa> From: "worked up" To: Subject: It is the path that God calls us to walk. Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:20:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 3.3 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 50a516d93fd399dc60588708fd9a3002 The cream of the crop for 2007 - GET IN EARLY! DSDI IS SET TO ROCK YOUR PORTFOLIO! DSI Direct Sales, Inc. Symbol: DSDI Price: $0.04 There is a MASSIVE PROMOTION underway this weekend! This is hot, read the news and get on DSDI first thing Monday! com Florida's governor, Charlie Crist, is giving serious consideration to giving a posthumous pardon to Doors singer Jim Morrison. I believe we all have a calling or a purpose. I was amazed by this and I shared this story with my grandmother. Broken Masterpieces: He Kicked Him In The What? Unite, my divided nation Home :: Web Directory :: liberalism News :: Free RSS news :: Free Newsletter :: Tell a Friend Clientfinder. " Jim Morrison himself had this to say in 1971, months before his passing to LA reporter Bob Chorush about the Miami verdicts: "I got acquitted on everything else. What exactly was WRONG with this jury? I am often asked how I deal with the difficulty of caring for severely ill children. A Christian Background for Political Correctness? Pataki called his decision, the first posthumous pardon in New York state history, "a declaration of New York's commitment to upholding the First Amendment. I would also admire great athletes, television stars, or people who could easily get girls to like them. I was amazed by this and I shared this story with my grandmother. There was a splint around his lower leg which was wrapped in an ace bandage and just his toes and top part of his foot was visible. They are allowed certain magazines and programs but are not allowed to have alcohol and drugs, although some bring it in illegally. I see my role as a Christian physician to direct parents and patients to give all healing credit to the Great Physician. I asked him what the civil war was about. She was not impressed and wanted me to be more impressed with my own father and how he had handled losing most of his left arm. What makes people admire someone? There are many lessons to be learned as well as appreciate that we have a growing enemy to freedom in the US and it comes from within. Shortly after finishing his residency they took their family to Kazakstan. I have become very sensitized to how meaningless many of our activities are that take up so much of our time. I often see people who have mistakenly thought that their day to day duties were their calling. Broken Masterpieces: What a Waste of Time - Pardoning Jim Morrison? He died while performing the duty of his calling. My opinion is that the Governor of Florida will issue the pardon to just be cool. Some might think what I am describing is a prison. From pdasl@acadiacom.net Mon May 07 10:03:26 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hl3oE-0003o3-SN for problem-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 07 May 2007 10:03:26 -0400 Received: from [88.228.94.57] (helo=anzln) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hl3oB-0005nW-Ul for problem-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 07 May 2007 10:03:26 -0400 Received: from [32.88.239.133] (helo=wsk) by anzln with smtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) id 1IN4=2-0001lK-NY; Mon, 7 May 2007 17:04:38 +0300 Message-ID: <001601c790b0$7d0434e0$85ef5820@wsk> From: "indifferently" To: Subject: matting scrutiny Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 17:03:28 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C790C9.A2418E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 410b68b37343617c6913e76d02180b14 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C790C9.A2418E60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0013_01C790C9.A2458600" ------=_NextPart_001_0013_01C790C9.A2458600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable things in the world exist irrespective of whether we know them or not. = I would say a lot of trouble is hidden in the words "given instructions = on how to convert one set of Chinese symbols to another". Don't be mislead by the fact that its 'life' would run very slowly; it = won't notice. It's like Maxwell's Demon: "assume we could distinguish between hot and = cold (high and low energy) particles, then . First, he has done important work in a wide variety of fields. (Go Tenderloin or Hunters point or Richmond in east bay or East Oakland, = say. Beyond that, who can say whether an ant is concious whereas a = hypothetical computer program that passes the Turing test is not? You just made a load of unsubstantiated statements of faith. But maybe kids in the bedroom given teddy bears to play with (19th = century? I'll bet they even naturally select code patterns that the original = designer never predicted, more closely aligned to survival in their = environment. ) Having a conversation with Blockhead would be just like having a = conversation with a real person. Have you considered that it just is? What if Blockhead had no record of conversations, only a set of rules = hardwired in, and a large but lossy memory, and a clock that wasn't = quite perfect. There's something about computer programming that gets you thinking that = the brain is nothing more than a special kind of program. Because one property of computer programs is that they can run on any = sort of hardware. After all, talking to a properly-enabled cell phone = works just like talking to a properly-enabled person! To me, the human skull-box and the Chinese Room are perfectly analogous. = Make Blockhead reproducible, with a lossy pattern of the program. com If this deal does not load in 10 seconds, click here It's hardly the knock-down argument I was waiting for. ------=_NextPart_001_0013_01C790C9.A2458600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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things in the world exist irrespective = of whether=20 we know them or not. I would say a lot of trouble is hidden in the = words "given=20 instructions on how to convert one set of Chinese symbols to = another".
Don't be mislead by the fact that its = 'life' would=20 run very slowly; it won't notice.
It's like Maxwell's Demon: "assume we = could=20 distinguish between hot and cold (high and low energy) particles, = then=20
First, he has done important work in a = wide variety=20 of fields.
(Go Tenderloin or Hunters point or = Richmond in east=20 bay or East Oakland, say. Beyond that, who can say whether an ant is = concious=20 whereas a hypothetical computer program that passes the Turing test = is=20 not?
You just made a load of unsubstantiated = statements=20 of faith.
But maybe kids in the bedroom given = teddy bears to=20 play with (19th century?
I'll bet they even naturally select = code patterns=20 that the original designer never predicted, more closely aligned to = survival in=20 their environment.
) Having a conversation with Blockhead = would be=20 just like having a conversation with a real person.
Have you considered that it just = is?
What if Blockhead had no record of = conversations,=20 only a set of rules hardwired in, and a large but lossy memory, and a = clock that=20 wasn't quite perfect.
There's something about computer = programming that=20 gets you thinking that the brain is nothing more than a special kind = of=20 program.
Because one property of computer = programs is that=20 they can run on any sort of hardware. After all, talking to a = properly-enabled cell=20 phone works just like talking to a properly-enabled person!
To me, the human skull-box and the = Chinese Room are=20 perfectly analogous. Make Blockhead reproducible, with a lossy pattern = of the=20 program.
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It's hardly the knock-down argument I = was waiting=20 for.
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