From jari.arkko@piuha.net Wed Sep 7 02:43:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: smartobjectdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: smartobjectdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CF221F8B7D for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 02:43:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.572 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.572 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.027, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cvvzu8GEnGQU for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 02:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5363421F8B7E for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 02:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4542D546; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:45:10 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ek1lU7s7985Y; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:45:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D50D2CE32; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:45:09 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4E673D24.8080004@piuha.net> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:45:08 +0300 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: smartobjectdir@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Hannes Tschofenig , Russ Housley Subject: [smartobjectdir] smart objects "area" meeting in IETF-82? X-BeenThere: smartobjectdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 09:43:23 -0000 In Quebec we chatted about the possibility of a "cross-area" meeting around the Internet of Things. The time to organize that would be now. What could be in the agenda? Cross-layer issues? Discussion of further needs in routing protocol space? Who could we get to speak? Thoughts? I've also heard that the IAB may be planning something for the plenary (Ccing Hannes due to that). Jari From housley@vigilsec.com Mon Sep 26 08:28:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: smartobjectdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: smartobjectdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28CB1F0C44 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:28:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.542 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.542 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.057, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0F7udLfgFdye for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3373E1F0C43 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7D0F240E9 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:31:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OhSn864M33Kz for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.147.177] (unknown [74.202.225.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A243EF240D3 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:31:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:31:10 -0400 Message-Id: To: smartobjectdir@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [smartobjectdir] Charter X-BeenThere: smartobjectdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:28:37 -0000 http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/smart-object.html The name of the directorate was changed. How should the charter change = to match? Russ From mehmet.ersue@nsn.com Wed Sep 28 08:27:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: smartobjectdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: smartobjectdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3EB21F8AC9 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:27:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.136 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.136 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.463, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4wKhUffzfjkp for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (demumfd001.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CAE21F8B2F for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.55]) by demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p8SFTqYG010739 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:29:52 +0200 Received: from demuexc023.nsn-intra.net (demuexc023.nsn-intra.net [10.150.128.36]) by demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p8SFTnbI027379; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:29:51 +0200 Received: from DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.103]) by demuexc023.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:29:50 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:29:47 +0200 Message-ID: <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A6402B6F199@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [smartobjectdir] Charter Thread-Index: Acx8YVoBFm8ABFJiSfm78deBHDXo+ABitNXw From: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" To: , "Russ Housley" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2011 15:29:50.0004 (UTC) FILETIME=[762C4740:01CC7DF3] Cc: Jari Arkko Subject: [smartobjectdir] FW: Charter X-BeenThere: smartobjectdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:27:13 -0000 Hi Russ,=20 thank you for starting this thread. As the aim of the Smart Object Directorate (SOD) is going beyond Smart Grid, following technical issues would be beneficial to address: power efficient communication of smart objects, lightweight and energy efficient protocols, energy management of constrained devices, discovering services and identification of objects, configuration and resource management of objects and constrained devices, representation of sensor data, linking smart objects to the web, a security model and secure access for smart objects. I think the same list of items would be also worth to discuss in the workshop Jari is planning.=20 As per working mode, I would find it interesting if the SOD focuses on following: - Interact with relevant bodies, review documents and point to important work at IETF - Coordinate IoT and Smart Object work in its early phase,=20 - Encourage, canalize and initiate new work proposals, - Discuss and evaluate relevant proposals, - Help to start new work in existing or new working groups. Cheers,=20 Mehmet=20 -----Original Message----- From: smartobjectdir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:smartobjectdir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Russ Housley Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 5:31 PM To: smartobjectdir@ietf.org Subject: [smartobjectdir] Charter http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/smart-object.html The name of the directorate was changed. How should the charter change to match? Russ _______________________________________________ smartobjectdir mailing list smartobjectdir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/smartobjectdir From jari.arkko@piuha.net Thu Sep 29 04:59:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: smartobjectdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: smartobjectdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D4821F8D17 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:59:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id whGkK7P4yjmz for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2C321F8BEC for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB4D2D565; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:01:53 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GZiIsCSRZIl3; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:01:52 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862652CE32; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:01:52 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4E845E31.3020404@piuha.net> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:01:53 +0300 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110906 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: smartobjectdir@ietf.org References: <4E673D24.8080004@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <4E673D24.8080004@piuha.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Hannes Tschofenig , Russ Housley Subject: Re: [smartobjectdir] smart objects "area" meeting in IETF-82? X-BeenThere: smartobjectdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:59:05 -0000 Was there any response on this? On 07.09.2011 12:45, Jari Arkko wrote: > In Quebec we chatted about the possibility of a "cross-area" meeting around the Internet of Things. The time to organize that would be now. What could be in the agenda? Cross-layer issues? Discussion of further needs in routing protocol space? Who could we get to speak? > > Thoughts? > > I've also heard that the IAB may be planning something for the plenary (Ccing Hannes due to that). > > Jari > From jari.arkko@piuha.net Fri Sep 30 03:24:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: smartobjectdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: smartobjectdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BB321F8B10 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 03:24:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.49 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.49 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.110, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ud7ENx47wvcL for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 03:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EDE21F8B0F for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 03:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729BC2CEFF; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:27:46 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JUx83uRwt4Yw; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:27:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0C62CE32; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:27:45 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4E8599A0.4010601@piuha.net> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:27:44 +0300 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110906 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" References: <4E673D24.8080004@piuha.net> <4E845E31.3020404@piuha.net> <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A6402B6F8F9@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> In-Reply-To: <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A6402B6F8F9@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: smartobjectdir@ietf.org, Hannes Tschofenig , Russ Housley Subject: Re: [smartobjectdir] smart objects "area" meeting in IETF-82? X-BeenThere: smartobjectdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:24:57 -0000 There are also some topics which are not yet in IETF program in any way, such as additional routing algorithms (beyond RPL), information-centric networking ideas, etc. Jari On 29.09.2011 20:04, Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) wrote: > Hi Jari, > > I did not see any response yet. > > As I mentioned in my other mail the topics I found interesting are: > > power efficient communication of smart objects, lightweight and energy > efficient protocols, energy management of constrained devices, > discovering services and identification of objects, configuration and > resource management of objects and constrained devices, representation > of sensor data, linking smart objects to the web, a security model and > secure access for smart objects. > > Some of them are already ongoing discussion in Core, LWIG, EE BoF, etc., > so I assume the potential presenters are most likely our 'known > suspects'. > > Cheers, > Mehmet > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: smartobjectdir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:smartobjectdir- >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Jari Arkko >> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 2:02 PM >> To: smartobjectdir@ietf.org >> Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; Russ Housley >> Subject: Re: [smartobjectdir] smart objects "area" meeting in IETF-82? >> >> Was there any response on this? >> >> On 07.09.2011 12:45, Jari Arkko wrote: >>> In Quebec we chatted about the possibility of a "cross-area" meeting > around >> the Internet of Things. The time to organize that would be now. What > could be >> in the agenda? Cross-layer issues? Discussion of further needs in > routing >> protocol space? Who could we get to speak? >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> I've also heard that the IAB may be planning something for the > plenary >> (Ccing Hannes due to that). >>> Jari >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> smartobjectdir mailing list >> smartobjectdir@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/smartobjectdir