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Hello from the SGIP meeting happening this week.

Francis Cleveland, whom some of you no doubt know, is a consultant to NIST =
and rapporteur-or-something-like-that for IEC 62351-6, which specifies how =
to secure communication profiles specified within IEC 61850, which in turn =
specifies the design of electrical substation automation. A large part of t=
hat is, surprise, management exchanges, both network and equipment; the rem=
ainder is ongoing event communication, maintaining synchronization among eq=
uipment. EPRI, which is a company that consults to the power industry, is l=
ooking at that with a view to potential updates to make it better and more =
useful. Francis asked me to work with John Lampe, a consultant to EPRI, on =
that. Marianne Swanson of NIST tells me that document access can be arrange=
d through the CyberSecurity Working Group of the SGIP, which uses NIST's re=
lationship with ANSI to get access less-onerous access to IEC documents.

To that end, I'd like to get some volunteers to review the document from an=
 "IP Network" perspective. I'm obviously looking for one or two security pe=
ople to look at the security recommendations, someone from NetConf to look =
at the network management issues, and someone from opsec to look at the "ho=
w does this work in a dual stack network" issues - a total of 3-6 people. I=
'm happy to have someone that is not a heavily-loaded directorate member; I=
 need your help in identifying whoever that set of people might turn out to=
 be.

BTW, 62351-7 is a bunch of MIBs; they likely need to be updated as well, pe=
rhaps with the addition of yang modules for netconf.

Help?=

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> someone from NetConf to look at the network management issues

Sure.

Cheers,=20
Mehmet=20

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>=20
> Hello from the SGIP meeting happening this week.
>=20
> Francis Cleveland, whom some of you no doubt know, is a consultant to
NIST and
> rapporteur-or-something-like-that for IEC 62351-6, which specifies how
to secure
> communication profiles specified within IEC 61850, which in turn
specifies the design of
> electrical substation automation. A large part of that is, surprise,
management
> exchanges, both network and equipment; the remainder is ongoing event
> communication, maintaining synchronization among equipment. EPRI,
which is a
> company that consults to the power industry, is looking at that with a
view to potential
> updates to make it better and more useful. Francis asked me to work
with John
> Lampe, a consultant to EPRI, on that. Marianne Swanson of NIST tells
me that
> document access can be arranged through the CyberSecurity Working
Group of the
> SGIP, which uses NIST's relationship with ANSI to get access
less-onerous access to
> IEC documents.
>=20
> To that end, I'd like to get some volunteers to review the document
from an "IP
> Network" perspective. I'm obviously looking for one or two security
people to look at
> the security recommendations, someone from NetConf to look at the
network
> management issues, and someone from opsec to look at the "how does
this work in a
> dual stack network" issues - a total of 3-6 people. I'm happy to have
someone that is
> not a heavily-loaded directorate member; I need your help in
identifying whoever that
> set of people might turn out to be.
>=20
> BTW, 62351-7 is a bunch of MIBs; they likely need to be updated as
well, perhaps with
> the addition of yang modules for netconf.
>=20
> Help?
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Do we want to get together?

Assuming we do, I have set up a doodle poll.=20
    http://www.doodle.com/n24y3a7284gp6ndh

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The doodle poll suggests that Thursday breakfast might work. Let's plan to =
have breakfast in the Hyatt's restaurant at 7:30 Thursday morning.=

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works for me
On 07/20/2012 03:33 PM, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
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Works for me.

Regards, Benoit.
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