From rpelletier@isoc.org Wed Apr 1 13:51:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85783A6BB0 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:51:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.594 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.594 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.005, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MsaO2EVGOxQp for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228583A67C1 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1BADC1B401E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 0DE341B4010 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <16E317A8-7597-4932-9FB6-EC0FADB80145@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: tools-development@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:52:27 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tool Meeting Update X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:51:28 -0000 All; At the Tools meeting in SF we discussed Mission Critical Tools and Services and an approach to gathering information, identifying mission critical tools and services, and possible hosting by the Secretariat. Next Steps 1. Lucy to prepare a template for information about each tool for distribution to the group for review - a meta database, listing all tools and their dependencies; where they live, what other tools they affect or are affected by. Would be good to understand the impact of any one change on the other tools. 2. Template to placed in a wiki on tools.ietf.org 3. Tool developers to be invited to fill in the template 4. A Mission Critical Review Team would be set up from the group to review and identify those that would be deemed mission critical and: a. how a tool has been written and if we can maintain it (or if it's some obscure code) b. the budgetary impact of maintaing the tool and if we can afford thats 5. Mission Critical tool developers would be approached to authorize hosting on ietf.org because the tool is so important to the IETF. 6. Russ is to develop a policy statement for the transfer of mission tools to secretariat We would measure our progress in Stockholm. Ray From llynch@civil-tongue.net Sun Apr 5 11:00:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388D13A6B71 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:00:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XtSQ95kiq3Dc for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (hiroshima.bogus.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E143A6B5F for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n35I1siW088441; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:01:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llynch@civil-tongue.net) Received: from localhost (llynch@localhost) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n35I1s4f088438; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:01:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llynch@civil-tongue.net) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:01:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lucy Lynch X-X-Sender: llynch@hiroshima.bogus.com To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: <16E317A8-7597-4932-9FB6-EC0FADB80145@isoc.org> Message-ID: References: <16E317A8-7597-4932-9FB6-EC0FADB80145@isoc.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tool Meeting Update X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:00:53 -0000 On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All; > > At the Tools meeting in SF we discussed Mission Critical Tools and Services > and an approach to gathering information, identifying mission critical tools > and services, and possible hosting by the Secretariat. > > Next Steps > 1. Lucy to prepare a template for information about each tool for > distribution to the group for review > - a meta database, listing all tools and their dependencies; where they > live, what other tools they affect or are affected by. Would be good to > understand the impact of any one change on the other tools. I'm still in travel hell (England this week) so look for something from me after the 10th > 2. Template to placed in a wiki on tools.ietf.org > > 3. Tool developers to be invited to fill in the template > > 4. A Mission Critical Review Team would be set up from the group to review > and identify those that would be deemed mission critical and: > a. how a tool has been written and if we can maintain it (or if it's some > obscure code) > b. the budgetary impact of maintaing the tool and if we can afford thats > > 5. Mission Critical tool developers would be approached to authorize hosting > on ietf.org because the tool is so important to the IETF. > > 6. Russ is to develop a policy statement for the transfer of mission tools > to secretariat > > We would measure our progress in Stockholm. > > Ray > > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From rpelletier@isoc.org Thu Apr 9 12:22:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9BC3A6969 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:22:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.58 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.58 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.019, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gmEIXBeeLTEv for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp114.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp114.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.114]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8372F3A6AA6 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 24CBD44C1C5 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 0DD7444C1C4 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <6E15C7FF-AE86-4AD3-AE7F-E52A66FDF20C@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: tools-development@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 1 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:23:14 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Call Friday 10 April X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:22:11 -0000 All; We will have our monthly call tis Friday at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). Call in details below. Agenda: 1. SF Code Sprint 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee 3. Datatracker Support Consensus 4. Other Ray Access Code: 3269881 Country Toll free number Toll number On-net* ARGENTINA (ARG) 08008007323 01151717323 AUSTRALIA (AUS) 1800359924 AUSTRIA (AUT) 0800291800 BAHAMAS (BHS) 18003890349 BELARUS (BLR) 882000110035 BELGIUM (BEL) 080039119 027924505 BOTSWANA (BWA) 002698003000557 BRAZIL (BRA) 08008873239 01149497323 BULGARIA (BGR) 008001151067 CANADA (CAN) 8005048071 6477233983 CHILE (CHL) 800532833 CHINA UNIFIED (CHINA TELECOM) 8008190328 4006208035 COLOMBIA (COL) 018009198715 COSTA RICA (CRI) 08000150522 CROATIA (HRV) 0800222927 CYPRUS (CYP) 80096147 CZECH REPUBLIC (CZE) 800142548 DENMARK (DNK) 80703116 36927814 DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (DOM) 18887514523 ECUADOR (ECU) 1800010184 ESTONIA (EST) 8000100225 FINLAND (FIN) 0800772087 0923193947 FRANCE (FRA) 0800941634 0174180779 GERMANY (DEU) 08001014529 089710404600 GREECE (GRC) 0080016122038715 HONG KONG (HKG) 30508639 HUNGARY (HUN) 0680015305 ICELAND (ISL) 8008086 INDIA (IND) 0008001006005 0008001005002 0008000012011 000182 INDONESIA (IDN) 0018030152030072 IRELAND (IRL) 1800719953 16530905 ISRAEL (ISR) 1809458715 ITALY (ITA) 800182599 200617507 JAPAN (JPN) 00531001557 KAZAKHSTAN (KAZ) 88003337317 KOREA, REPUBLIC OF (KOR) 00308140437 KYRGYZSTAN (KGZ) 0080070077706 LATVIA (LVA) 80000742 LUXEMBOURG (LUX) 80023947 MALAYSIA (MYS) 1800807136 MEXICO (MEX) 0018005148260 MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF (MDA) 080069001 MONACO (MCO) 80093340 NETHERLANDS (NLD) 08002658226 0207084835 NEW ZEALAND (NZL) 0800440066 NORWAY (NOR) 80056403 21033159 PANAMA (PAN) 008002269745 PERU (PER) 080070373 017057323 PHILIPPINES (PHL) 180011100764 POLAND (POL) 008001114567 PORTUGAL (PRT) 800780606 ROMANIA (ROM) 0800895088 RUSSIAN FEDERATION (RUS) 81080022641012 SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS (KNA) 18007449281 SINGAPORE (SGP) 8001011437 64944158 SLOVAKIA (SVK) 0800004237 SOUTH AFRICA (ZAF) 0800990941 SPAIN (ESP) 900800373 917911825 SWEDEN (SWE) 0201400591 0114966102 SWITZERLAND (CHE) 0800700285 0434569406 TAIWAN (TWN) 0809092289 TAJIKISTAN (TJK) 8108003337317 THAILAND (THA) 001800656917 UKRAINE (UKR) 88005042610 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES (ARE) 8000170894 UNITED KINGDOM (GBR) 08004960579 02079040084 UNITED STATES (USA) 8005048071 3032480281 URUGUAY (URY) 00040190114 UZBEKISTAN (UZB) 810800121006 VENEZUELA (VEN) 08001004179 *On-net numbers may not be available in all areas of the countries indicated. From rpelletier@isoc.org Fri Apr 10 07:15:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201713A6D87 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:15:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.581 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.581 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.018, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2K6D7xzgUobE for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp184.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp184.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.184]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0216B3A6EA3 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay8.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay8.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6394D207EBC; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay8.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 4248D202DCF; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:16:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Ray Pelletier To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: <6E15C7FF-AE86-4AD3-AE7F-E52A66FDF20C@isoc.org> X-Priority: 1 References: <6E15C7FF-AE86-4AD3-AE7F-E52A66FDF20C@isoc.org> Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:16:14 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Call Friday 10 April X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:15:08 -0000 All; Appears that holidays impacted today's attendance. Accordingly we are rescheduling to Friday 24 April at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). A more flushed out agenda follows. Thanks Ray Agenda: 1. SF Code Sprint Results Stockholm 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee Define 'Mission Critical' tools and services Membership Review Process Acceptance Criteria (code, cost, etc) 3. Datatracker Support Consensus Datatracker from 00 - RFC# 'Support' for Authors, WG Chairs, IESG, RFC Editor, IANA, Secretariat & community 'Support' - tools and/or information 4. Other - Tools Inventory Template On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All; > > We will have our monthly call tis Friday at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). > Call in details below. > > Agenda: > > 1. SF Code Sprint > > 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee > > 3. Datatracker Support Consensus > > 4. Other > > Ray > > Access Code: 3269881 > > Country Toll free number Toll number On-net* > ARGENTINA (ARG) 08008007323 01151717323 > AUSTRALIA (AUS) 1800359924 > AUSTRIA (AUT) 0800291800 > BAHAMAS (BHS) 18003890349 > BELARUS (BLR) 882000110035 > BELGIUM (BEL) 080039119 027924505 > BOTSWANA (BWA) 002698003000557 > BRAZIL (BRA) 08008873239 01149497323 > BULGARIA (BGR) 008001151067 > CANADA (CAN) 8005048071 6477233983 > CHILE (CHL) 800532833 > CHINA UNIFIED (CHINA TELECOM) 8008190328 > 4006208035 > COLOMBIA (COL) 018009198715 > COSTA RICA (CRI) 08000150522 > CROATIA (HRV) 0800222927 > CYPRUS (CYP) 80096147 > CZECH REPUBLIC (CZE) 800142548 > DENMARK (DNK) 80703116 36927814 > DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (DOM) 18887514523 > ECUADOR (ECU) 1800010184 > ESTONIA (EST) 8000100225 > FINLAND (FIN) 0800772087 0923193947 > FRANCE (FRA) 0800941634 0174180779 > GERMANY (DEU) 08001014529 089710404600 > GREECE (GRC) 0080016122038715 > HONG KONG (HKG) 30508639 > HUNGARY (HUN) 0680015305 > ICELAND (ISL) 8008086 > INDIA (IND) 0008001006005 > 0008001005002 > 0008000012011 > 000182 > INDONESIA (IDN) 0018030152030072 > IRELAND (IRL) 1800719953 16530905 > ISRAEL (ISR) 1809458715 > ITALY (ITA) 800182599 200617507 > JAPAN (JPN) 00531001557 > KAZAKHSTAN (KAZ) 88003337317 > KOREA, REPUBLIC OF (KOR) 00308140437 > KYRGYZSTAN (KGZ) 0080070077706 > LATVIA (LVA) 80000742 > LUXEMBOURG (LUX) 80023947 > MALAYSIA (MYS) 1800807136 > MEXICO (MEX) 0018005148260 > MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF (MDA) 080069001 > MONACO (MCO) 80093340 > NETHERLANDS (NLD) 08002658226 0207084835 > NEW ZEALAND (NZL) 0800440066 > NORWAY (NOR) 80056403 21033159 > PANAMA (PAN) 008002269745 > PERU (PER) 080070373 017057323 > PHILIPPINES (PHL) 180011100764 > POLAND (POL) 008001114567 > PORTUGAL (PRT) 800780606 > ROMANIA (ROM) 0800895088 > RUSSIAN FEDERATION (RUS) 81080022641012 > SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS (KNA) 18007449281 > SINGAPORE (SGP) 8001011437 64944158 > SLOVAKIA (SVK) 0800004237 > SOUTH AFRICA (ZAF) 0800990941 > SPAIN (ESP) 900800373 917911825 > SWEDEN (SWE) 0201400591 0114966102 > SWITZERLAND (CHE) 0800700285 0434569406 > TAIWAN (TWN) 0809092289 > TAJIKISTAN (TJK) 8108003337317 > THAILAND (THA) 001800656917 > UKRAINE (UKR) 88005042610 > UNITED ARAB EMIRATES (ARE) 8000170894 > UNITED KINGDOM (GBR) 08004960579 02079040084 > UNITED STATES (USA) 8005048071 3032480281 > URUGUAY (URY) 00040190114 > UZBEKISTAN (UZB) 810800121006 > VENEZUELA (VEN) 08001004179 > > *On-net numbers may not be available in all areas of the countries > indicated. > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri Apr 10 12:02:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D6F3A6F0E for ; 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Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:02:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47651 helo=chardonnay.livebox.home) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LsLzh-00041G-Pa; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:02:30 +0200 Message-ID: <49DF97C4.6000602@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:02:28 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Pelletier References: <6E15C7FF-AE86-4AD3-AE7F-E52A66FDF20C@isoc.org> In-Reply-To: <6E15C7FF-AE86-4AD3-AE7F-E52A66FDF20C@isoc.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rpelletier@isoc.org, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Call Friday 10 April X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:02:54 -0000 Ray, It's Easter, and Good Friday on April 10th. I didn't count on this call going to be run today... Henrik On 2009-04-09 21:23 Ray Pelletier said the following: > All; > > We will have our monthly call tis Friday at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). > Call in details below. > > Agenda: > > 1. SF Code Sprint > > 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee > > 3. Datatracker Support Consensus > > 4. Other > > Ray > > Access Code: 3269881 > > Country Toll free number Toll number On-net* > ARGENTINA (ARG) 08008007323 01151717323 > AUSTRALIA (AUS) 1800359924 > AUSTRIA (AUT) 0800291800 > BAHAMAS (BHS) 18003890349 > BELARUS (BLR) 882000110035 > BELGIUM (BEL) 080039119 027924505 > BOTSWANA (BWA) 002698003000557 > BRAZIL (BRA) 08008873239 01149497323 > BULGARIA (BGR) 008001151067 > CANADA (CAN) 8005048071 6477233983 > CHILE (CHL) 800532833 > CHINA UNIFIED (CHINA TELECOM) 8008190328 > 4006208035 > COLOMBIA (COL) 018009198715 > COSTA RICA (CRI) 08000150522 > CROATIA (HRV) 0800222927 > CYPRUS (CYP) 80096147 > CZECH REPUBLIC (CZE) 800142548 > DENMARK (DNK) 80703116 36927814 > DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (DOM) 18887514523 > ECUADOR (ECU) 1800010184 > ESTONIA (EST) 8000100225 > FINLAND (FIN) 0800772087 0923193947 > FRANCE (FRA) 0800941634 0174180779 > GERMANY (DEU) 08001014529 089710404600 > GREECE (GRC) 0080016122038715 > HONG KONG (HKG) 30508639 > HUNGARY (HUN) 0680015305 > ICELAND (ISL) 8008086 > INDIA (IND) 0008001006005 > 0008001005002 > 0008000012011 > 000182 > INDONESIA (IDN) 0018030152030072 > IRELAND (IRL) 1800719953 16530905 > ISRAEL (ISR) 1809458715 > ITALY (ITA) 800182599 200617507 > JAPAN (JPN) 00531001557 > KAZAKHSTAN (KAZ) 88003337317 > KOREA, REPUBLIC OF (KOR) 00308140437 > KYRGYZSTAN (KGZ) 0080070077706 > LATVIA (LVA) 80000742 > LUXEMBOURG (LUX) 80023947 > MALAYSIA (MYS) 1800807136 > MEXICO (MEX) 0018005148260 > MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF (MDA) 080069001 > MONACO (MCO) 80093340 > NETHERLANDS (NLD) 08002658226 0207084835 > NEW ZEALAND (NZL) 0800440066 > NORWAY (NOR) 80056403 21033159 > PANAMA (PAN) 008002269745 > PERU (PER) 080070373 017057323 > PHILIPPINES (PHL) 180011100764 > POLAND (POL) 008001114567 > PORTUGAL (PRT) 800780606 > ROMANIA (ROM) 0800895088 > RUSSIAN FEDERATION (RUS) 81080022641012 > SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS (KNA) 18007449281 > SINGAPORE (SGP) 8001011437 64944158 > SLOVAKIA (SVK) 0800004237 > SOUTH AFRICA (ZAF) 0800990941 > SPAIN (ESP) 900800373 917911825 > SWEDEN (SWE) 0201400591 0114966102 > SWITZERLAND (CHE) 0800700285 0434569406 > TAIWAN (TWN) 0809092289 > TAJIKISTAN (TJK) 8108003337317 > THAILAND (THA) 001800656917 > UKRAINE (UKR) 88005042610 > UNITED ARAB EMIRATES (ARE) 8000170894 > UNITED KINGDOM (GBR) 08004960579 02079040084 > UNITED STATES (USA) 8005048071 3032480281 > URUGUAY (URY) 00040190114 > UZBEKISTAN (UZB) 810800121006 > VENEZUELA (VEN) 08001004179 > > *On-net numbers may not be available in all areas of the countries > indicated. > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri Apr 10 12:03:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B566C3A68C0 for ; 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Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:03:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47655 helo=chardonnay.livebox.home) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LsM15-0004PG-Qc; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:03:56 +0200 Message-ID: <49DF981A.70407@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:03:54 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Pelletier References: <6E15C7FF-AE86-4AD3-AE7F-E52A66FDF20C@isoc.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rpelletier@isoc.org, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Call Friday 10 April X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:03:10 -0000 Ah. A call on Friday April 24th sounds much better than on Good Friday. Best, Henrik On 2009-04-10 16:16 Ray Pelletier said the following: > All; > > Appears that holidays impacted today's attendance. Accordingly we are > rescheduling to Friday 24 April at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). > > A more flushed out agenda follows. > > Thanks > > Ray > > Agenda: > > 1. SF Code Sprint > Results > Stockholm > > 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee > Define 'Mission Critical' tools and services > Membership > Review Process > Acceptance Criteria (code, cost, etc) > > 3. Datatracker Support Consensus > Datatracker from 00 - RFC# > 'Support' for Authors, WG Chairs, IESG, RFC Editor, IANA, > Secretariat & community > 'Support' - tools and/or information > > 4. Other > - Tools Inventory Template > > > On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> All; >> >> We will have our monthly call tis Friday at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). >> Call in details below. >> >> Agenda: >> >> 1. SF Code Sprint >> >> 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee >> >> 3. Datatracker Support Consensus >> >> 4. Other >> >> Ray >> >> Access Code: 3269881 >> >> Country Toll free number Toll number On-net* >> ARGENTINA (ARG) 08008007323 01151717323 >> AUSTRALIA (AUS) 1800359924 >> AUSTRIA (AUT) 0800291800 >> BAHAMAS (BHS) 18003890349 >> BELARUS (BLR) 882000110035 >> BELGIUM (BEL) 080039119 027924505 >> BOTSWANA (BWA) 002698003000557 >> BRAZIL (BRA) 08008873239 01149497323 >> BULGARIA (BGR) 008001151067 >> CANADA (CAN) 8005048071 6477233983 >> CHILE (CHL) 800532833 >> CHINA UNIFIED (CHINA TELECOM) 8008190328 >> 4006208035 >> COLOMBIA (COL) 018009198715 >> COSTA RICA (CRI) 08000150522 >> CROATIA (HRV) 0800222927 >> CYPRUS (CYP) 80096147 >> CZECH REPUBLIC (CZE) 800142548 >> DENMARK (DNK) 80703116 36927814 >> DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (DOM) 18887514523 >> ECUADOR (ECU) 1800010184 >> ESTONIA (EST) 8000100225 >> FINLAND (FIN) 0800772087 0923193947 >> FRANCE (FRA) 0800941634 0174180779 >> GERMANY (DEU) 08001014529 089710404600 >> GREECE (GRC) 0080016122038715 >> HONG KONG (HKG) 30508639 >> HUNGARY (HUN) 0680015305 >> ICELAND (ISL) 8008086 >> INDIA (IND) 0008001006005 >> 0008001005002 >> 0008000012011 >> 000182 >> INDONESIA (IDN) 0018030152030072 >> IRELAND (IRL) 1800719953 16530905 >> ISRAEL (ISR) 1809458715 >> ITALY (ITA) 800182599 200617507 >> JAPAN (JPN) 00531001557 >> KAZAKHSTAN (KAZ) 88003337317 >> KOREA, REPUBLIC OF (KOR) 00308140437 >> KYRGYZSTAN (KGZ) 0080070077706 >> LATVIA (LVA) 80000742 >> LUXEMBOURG (LUX) 80023947 >> MALAYSIA (MYS) 1800807136 >> MEXICO (MEX) 0018005148260 >> MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF (MDA) 080069001 >> MONACO (MCO) 80093340 >> NETHERLANDS (NLD) 08002658226 0207084835 >> NEW ZEALAND (NZL) 0800440066 >> NORWAY (NOR) 80056403 21033159 >> PANAMA (PAN) 008002269745 >> PERU (PER) 080070373 017057323 >> PHILIPPINES (PHL) 180011100764 >> POLAND (POL) 008001114567 >> PORTUGAL (PRT) 800780606 >> ROMANIA (ROM) 0800895088 >> RUSSIAN FEDERATION (RUS) 81080022641012 >> SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS (KNA) 18007449281 >> SINGAPORE (SGP) 8001011437 64944158 >> SLOVAKIA (SVK) 0800004237 >> SOUTH AFRICA (ZAF) 0800990941 >> SPAIN (ESP) 900800373 917911825 >> SWEDEN (SWE) 0201400591 0114966102 >> SWITZERLAND (CHE) 0800700285 0434569406 >> TAIWAN (TWN) 0809092289 >> TAJIKISTAN (TJK) 8108003337317 >> THAILAND (THA) 001800656917 >> UKRAINE (UKR) 88005042610 >> UNITED ARAB EMIRATES (ARE) 8000170894 >> UNITED KINGDOM (GBR) 08004960579 02079040084 >> UNITED STATES (USA) 8005048071 3032480281 >> URUGUAY (URY) 00040190114 >> UZBEKISTAN (UZB) 810800121006 >> VENEZUELA (VEN) 08001004179 >> >> *On-net numbers may not be available in all areas of the countries >> indicated. >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From rpelletier@isoc.org Wed Apr 22 11:10:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ADFF28C52A for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:10:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.53 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3vkcHmCS6ZVn for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321DC28C424 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 431DB1B4039; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 27D081B401F; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:11:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Ray Pelletier To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 1 References: <6E15C7FF-AE86-4AD3-AE7F-E52A66FDF20C@isoc.org> Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:11:33 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Friday was Re: Call Friday 10 April X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:10:19 -0000 All, A reminder of the call this Friday at 10:00 am EDT (UTC-4). Agenda below. Ray On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All; > > Appears that holidays impacted today's attendance. Accordingly we > are rescheduling to Friday 24 April at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). > > A more flushed out agenda follows. > > Thanks > > Ray > > Agenda: > > 1. SF Code Sprint > Results > Stockholm > > 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee > Define 'Mission Critical' tools and services > Membership > Review Process > Acceptance Criteria (code, cost, etc) > > 3. Datatracker Support Consensus > Datatracker from 00 - RFC# > 'Support' for Authors, WG Chairs, IESG, RFC Editor, IANA, > Secretariat & community > 'Support' - tools and/or information > > 4. Other > - Tools Inventory Template > > > On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> All; >> >> We will have our monthly call tis Friday at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). >> Call in details below. >> >> Agenda: >> >> 1. SF Code Sprint >> >> 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee >> >> 3. Datatracker Support Consensus >> >> 4. Other >> >> Ray >> >> Access Code: 3269881 >> >> Country Toll free number Toll number On-net* >> ARGENTINA (ARG) 08008007323 01151717323 >> AUSTRALIA (AUS) 1800359924 >> AUSTRIA (AUT) 0800291800 >> BAHAMAS (BHS) 18003890349 >> BELARUS (BLR) 882000110035 >> BELGIUM (BEL) 080039119 027924505 >> BOTSWANA (BWA) 002698003000557 >> BRAZIL (BRA) 08008873239 01149497323 >> BULGARIA (BGR) 008001151067 >> CANADA (CAN) 8005048071 6477233983 >> CHILE (CHL) 800532833 >> CHINA UNIFIED (CHINA TELECOM) 8008190328 >> 4006208035 >> COLOMBIA (COL) 018009198715 >> COSTA RICA (CRI) 08000150522 >> CROATIA (HRV) 0800222927 >> CYPRUS (CYP) 80096147 >> CZECH REPUBLIC (CZE) 800142548 >> DENMARK (DNK) 80703116 36927814 >> DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (DOM) 18887514523 >> ECUADOR (ECU) 1800010184 >> ESTONIA (EST) 8000100225 >> FINLAND (FIN) 0800772087 0923193947 >> FRANCE (FRA) 0800941634 0174180779 >> GERMANY (DEU) 08001014529 089710404600 >> GREECE (GRC) 0080016122038715 >> HONG KONG (HKG) 30508639 >> HUNGARY (HUN) 0680015305 >> ICELAND (ISL) 8008086 >> INDIA (IND) 0008001006005 >> 0008001005002 >> 0008000012011 >> 000182 >> INDONESIA (IDN) 0018030152030072 >> IRELAND (IRL) 1800719953 16530905 >> ISRAEL (ISR) 1809458715 >> ITALY (ITA) 800182599 200617507 >> JAPAN (JPN) 00531001557 >> KAZAKHSTAN (KAZ) 88003337317 >> KOREA, REPUBLIC OF (KOR) 00308140437 >> KYRGYZSTAN (KGZ) 0080070077706 >> LATVIA (LVA) 80000742 >> LUXEMBOURG (LUX) 80023947 >> MALAYSIA (MYS) 1800807136 >> MEXICO (MEX) 0018005148260 >> MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF (MDA) 080069001 >> MONACO (MCO) 80093340 >> NETHERLANDS (NLD) 08002658226 0207084835 >> NEW ZEALAND (NZL) 0800440066 >> NORWAY (NOR) 80056403 21033159 >> PANAMA (PAN) 008002269745 >> PERU (PER) 080070373 017057323 >> PHILIPPINES (PHL) 180011100764 >> POLAND (POL) 008001114567 >> PORTUGAL (PRT) 800780606 >> ROMANIA (ROM) 0800895088 >> RUSSIAN FEDERATION (RUS) 81080022641012 >> SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS (KNA) 18007449281 >> SINGAPORE (SGP) 8001011437 64944158 >> SLOVAKIA (SVK) 0800004237 >> SOUTH AFRICA (ZAF) 0800990941 >> SPAIN (ESP) 900800373 917911825 >> SWEDEN (SWE) 0201400591 0114966102 >> SWITZERLAND (CHE) 0800700285 0434569406 >> TAIWAN (TWN) 0809092289 >> TAJIKISTAN (TJK) 8108003337317 >> THAILAND (THA) 001800656917 >> UKRAINE (UKR) 88005042610 >> UNITED ARAB EMIRATES (ARE) 8000170894 >> UNITED KINGDOM (GBR) 08004960579 02079040084 >> UNITED STATES (USA) 8005048071 3032480281 >> URUGUAY (URY) 00040190114 >> UZBEKISTAN (UZB) 810800121006 >> VENEZUELA (VEN) 08001004179 >> >> *On-net numbers may not be available in all areas of the countries >> indicated. >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From llynch@civil-tongue.net Wed Apr 22 13:18:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FB428C672 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:18:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.569 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AMfM2q6EstWN for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (hiroshima.bogus.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92083A6D90 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3MKK5G6014291; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llynch@civil-tongue.net) Received: from localhost (llynch@localhost) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n3MKK5Bo014267; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llynch@civil-tongue.net) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:20:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lucy Lynch X-X-Sender: llynch@hiroshima.bogus.com To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <6E15C7FF-AE86-4AD3-AE7F-E52A66FDF20C@isoc.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Friday was Re: Call Friday 10 April X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:18:52 -0000 On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All, > > A reminder of the call this Friday at 10:00 am EDT (UTC-4). Agenda below. All - I've been thinking about the software maintenance issue and I think that Henrik's suggestion that we use something like the deb-control file is a good one. I've looked at the debian stuff and they have a set of standard package files the would get us started: Package: Version: Maintainer: Description: Section:
Priority: Essential: Architecture: Source: Depends: Pre-Depends: Recommends: Suggests: Conflicts: Replaces: Provides: but we probably want a bit more information as things are scattered among several platforms, sites, etc. I've started a list: Module: - question, are there tools the multiple maintainers for sub-sets of code? Maintainer_Backup: Network_URI: Backup_URI: Beta_URI: - optional Framework: <> - optional, do you need this? Language: - i.e. python, perl, etc. Revision_Control: - how and where to store/get the stuff Supports: - may not be needed if we parse all control files Change_Req: - maintainer driven Freeze_Req: - this most likely relates to IETF meeting and submission dates Contributors: - additional names IETF: - This one is for Russ ;-) Additional_Orgs: <> - ? do we track other orgs who use IETF tools - like I2 and XML2RFC? and I'm sure I've missed some things that would be nice to have. I know Ray was thinking that this would be a web form that the developers would fill in and then the results would provide a contact database. I think that may be backwards. I think we want a control file (or files) for each tool and a parser that will scrape the results, sync, and provide them to the team and to Ray (could be web-a-vized). This would take a little work to regularize the data entry conventions, but would end up being easier to maintain (as long as coders remember to update the control file). 2 cents - - Lucy > Ray > > > > On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> All; >> >> Appears that holidays impacted today's attendance. Accordingly we are >> rescheduling to Friday 24 April at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). >> >> A more flushed out agenda follows. >> >> Thanks >> >> Ray >> >> Agenda: >> >> 1. SF Code Sprint >> Results >> Stockholm >> >> 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee >> Define 'Mission Critical' tools and services >> Membership >> Review Process >> Acceptance Criteria (code, cost, etc) >> >> 3. Datatracker Support Consensus >> Datatracker from 00 - RFC# >> 'Support' for Authors, WG Chairs, IESG, RFC Editor, IANA, Secretariat & >> community >> 'Support' - tools and/or information >> >> 4. Other >> - Tools Inventory Template >> >> >> On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: >> >>> All; >>> >>> We will have our monthly call tis Friday at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). Call in >>> details below. >>> >>> Agenda: >>> >>> 1. SF Code Sprint >>> >>> 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee >>> >>> 3. Datatracker Support Consensus >>> >>> 4. Other >>> >>> Ray >>> >>> Access Code: 3269881 >>> >>> Country Toll free number Toll number On-net* >>> ARGENTINA (ARG) 08008007323 01151717323 >>> AUSTRALIA (AUS) 1800359924 >>> AUSTRIA (AUT) 0800291800 >>> BAHAMAS (BHS) 18003890349 >>> BELARUS (BLR) 882000110035 >>> BELGIUM (BEL) 080039119 027924505 >>> BOTSWANA (BWA) 002698003000557 >>> BRAZIL (BRA) 08008873239 01149497323 >>> BULGARIA (BGR) 008001151067 >>> CANADA (CAN) 8005048071 6477233983 >>> CHILE (CHL) 800532833 >>> CHINA UNIFIED (CHINA TELECOM) 8008190328 >>> 4006208035 >>> COLOMBIA (COL) 018009198715 >>> COSTA RICA (CRI) 08000150522 >>> CROATIA (HRV) 0800222927 >>> CYPRUS (CYP) 80096147 >>> CZECH REPUBLIC (CZE) 800142548 >>> DENMARK (DNK) 80703116 36927814 >>> DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (DOM) 18887514523 >>> ECUADOR (ECU) 1800010184 >>> ESTONIA (EST) 8000100225 >>> FINLAND (FIN) 0800772087 0923193947 >>> FRANCE (FRA) 0800941634 0174180779 >>> GERMANY (DEU) 08001014529 089710404600 >>> GREECE (GRC) 0080016122038715 >>> HONG KONG (HKG) 30508639 >>> HUNGARY (HUN) 0680015305 >>> ICELAND (ISL) 8008086 >>> INDIA (IND) 0008001006005 >>> 0008001005002 >>> 0008000012011 >>> 000182 >>> INDONESIA (IDN) 0018030152030072 >>> IRELAND (IRL) 1800719953 16530905 >>> ISRAEL (ISR) 1809458715 >>> ITALY (ITA) 800182599 200617507 >>> JAPAN (JPN) 00531001557 >>> KAZAKHSTAN (KAZ) 88003337317 >>> KOREA, REPUBLIC OF (KOR) 00308140437 >>> KYRGYZSTAN (KGZ) 0080070077706 >>> LATVIA (LVA) 80000742 >>> LUXEMBOURG (LUX) 80023947 >>> MALAYSIA (MYS) 1800807136 >>> MEXICO (MEX) 0018005148260 >>> MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF (MDA) 080069001 >>> MONACO (MCO) 80093340 >>> NETHERLANDS (NLD) 08002658226 0207084835 >>> NEW ZEALAND (NZL) 0800440066 >>> NORWAY (NOR) 80056403 21033159 >>> PANAMA (PAN) 008002269745 >>> PERU (PER) 080070373 017057323 >>> PHILIPPINES (PHL) 180011100764 >>> POLAND (POL) 008001114567 >>> PORTUGAL (PRT) 800780606 >>> ROMANIA (ROM) 0800895088 >>> RUSSIAN FEDERATION (RUS) 81080022641012 >>> SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS (KNA) 18007449281 >>> SINGAPORE (SGP) 8001011437 64944158 >>> SLOVAKIA (SVK) 0800004237 >>> SOUTH AFRICA (ZAF) 0800990941 >>> SPAIN (ESP) 900800373 917911825 >>> SWEDEN (SWE) 0201400591 0114966102 >>> SWITZERLAND (CHE) 0800700285 0434569406 >>> TAIWAN (TWN) 0809092289 >>> TAJIKISTAN (TJK) 8108003337317 >>> THAILAND (THA) 001800656917 >>> UKRAINE (UKR) 88005042610 >>> UNITED ARAB EMIRATES (ARE) 8000170894 >>> UNITED KINGDOM (GBR) 08004960579 02079040084 >>> UNITED STATES (USA) 8005048071 3032480281 >>> URUGUAY (URY) 00040190114 >>> UZBEKISTAN (UZB) 810800121006 >>> VENEZUELA (VEN) 08001004179 >>> >>> *On-net numbers may not be available in all areas of the countries >>> indicated. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From housley@vigilsec.com Thu Apr 23 12:48:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43AA3A6FBF for ; 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Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:49:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:31:35 -0400 To: Lucy Lynch From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: References: <6E15C7FF-AE86-4AD3-AE7F-E52A66FDF20C@isoc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20090423194951.00CA59A4781@odin.smetech.net> Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Friday was Re: Call Friday 10 April X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:48:23 -0000 What is the difference between Depends and Pre-Depends? At 04:20 PM 4/22/2009, Lucy Lynch wrote: >On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >>All, >> >>A reminder of the call this Friday at 10:00 am EDT (UTC-4). Agenda below. > >All - > >I've been thinking about the software maintenance issue and I think that >Henrik's suggestion that we use something like the deb-control file is >a good one. I've looked at the debian stuff and they have a set of >standard package files the would get us started: > > Package: > Version: > Maintainer: > Description: > Section:
> Priority: > Essential: > Architecture: > Source: > Depends: > Pre-Depends: > Recommends: > Suggests: > Conflicts: > Replaces: > Provides: > >but we probably want a bit more information as things are scattered >among several platforms, sites, etc. I've started a list: > >Module: - question, are there tools the multiple > maintainers for sub-sets of code? >Maintainer_Backup: > >Network_URI: >Backup_URI: >Beta_URI: - optional > >Framework: <> - optional, do you need this? >Language: - i.e. python, perl, etc. >Revision_Control: - how and where to store/get the stuff > >Supports: - may not be needed if we parse all > control files > >Change_Req: - maintainer driven >Freeze_Req: - this most likely relates to IETF > meeting and submission dates >Contributors: - additional names >IETF: - This one is for Russ ;-) >Additional_Orgs: <> - ? do we track other orgs who use IETF > tools - like I2 and XML2RFC? > > >and I'm sure I've missed some things that would be nice to have. > >I know Ray was thinking that this would be a web form that the >developers would fill in and then the results would provide a >contact database. I think that may be backwards. I think we want a >control file (or files) for each tool and a parser that will scrape >the results, sync, and provide them to the team and to Ray (could be >web-a-vized). > >This would take a little work to regularize the data entry conventions, >but would end up being easier to maintain (as long as coders remember >to update the control file). > >2 cents - > >- Lucy > >>Ray >> >> >> >>On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: >> >>>All; >>>Appears that holidays impacted today's attendance. Accordingly we >>>are rescheduling to Friday 24 April at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). >>>A more flushed out agenda follows. >>>Thanks >>>Ray >>>Agenda: >>>1. SF Code Sprint >>>Results >>>Stockholm >>>2. Mission Critical Subcommittee >>>Define 'Mission Critical' tools and services >>>Membership >>>Review Process >>>Acceptance Criteria (code, cost, etc) >>>3. Datatracker Support Consensus >>>Datatracker from 00 - RFC# >>>'Support' for Authors, WG Chairs, IESG, RFC Editor, IANA, >>>Secretariat & community >>>'Support' - tools and/or information >>>4. Other >>>- Tools Inventory Template >>> >>>On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: >>> >>>>All; >>>>We will have our monthly call tis Friday at 10:00 AM EDT >>>>(UTC-4). Call in details below. >>>>Agenda: >>>>1. SF Code Sprint >>>>2. Mission Critical Subcommittee >>>>3. Datatracker Support Consensus >>>>4. Other >>>>Ray >>>>Access Code: 3269881 >>>>Country Toll free number Toll number On-net* >>>>ARGENTINA (ARG) 08008007323 01151717323 AUSTRALIA >>>>(AUS) 1800359924 AUSTRIA (AUT) 0800291800 BAHAMAS >>>>(BHS) 18003890349 BELARUS (BLR) 882000110035 BELGIUM >>>>(BEL) 080039119 027924505 BOTSWANA >>>>(BWA) 002698003000557 BRAZIL >>>>(BRA) 08008873239 01149497323 BULGARIA >>>>(BGR) 008001151067 CANADA >>>>(CAN) 8005048071 6477233983 CHILE (CHL) 800532833 >>>>CHINA UNIFIED (CHINA TELECOM) 8008190328 4006208035 COLOMBIA >>>>(COL) 018009198715 COSTA RICA (CRI) 08000150522 CROATIA >>>>(HRV) 0800222927 CYPRUS (CYP) 80096147 CZECH REPUBLIC >>>>(CZE) 800142548 DENMARK (DNK) 80703116 36927814 >>>>DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (DOM) 18887514523 ECUADOR >>>>(ECU) 1800010184 ESTONIA (EST) 8000100225 FINLAND >>>>(FIN) 0800772087 0923193947 FRANCE (FRA) >>>>0800941634 0174180779 GERMANY >>>>(DEU) 08001014529 089710404600 GREECE >>>>(GRC) 0080016122038715 HONG KONG >>>>(HKG) 30508639 HUNGARY (HUN) 0680015305 ICELAND >>>>(ISL) 8008086 INDIA (IND) 0008001006005 0008001005002 >>>>0008000012011 000182 INDONESIA (IDN) 0018030152030072 >>>>IRELAND (IRL) 1800719953 16530905 ISRAEL (ISR) 1809458715 >>>>ITALY (ITA) 800182599 200617507 JAPAN (JPN) 00531001557 >>>>KAZAKHSTAN (KAZ) 88003337317 KOREA, REPUBLIC OF >>>>(KOR) 00308140437 KYRGYZSTAN (KGZ) 0080070077706 LATVIA >>>>(LVA) 80000742 LUXEMBOURG (LUX) 80023947 MALAYSIA >>>>(MYS) 1800807136 MEXICO (MEX) 0018005148260 MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF >>>>(MDA) 080069001 MONACO (MCO) 80093340 NETHERLANDS >>>>(NLD) 08002658226 0207084835 NEW ZEALAND >>>>(NZL) 0800440066 NORWAY (NOR) 80056403 21033159 PANAMA >>>>(PAN) 008002269745 PERU (PER) 080070373 017057323 >>>>PHILIPPINES (PHL) 180011100764 POLAND >>>>(POL) 008001114567 PORTUGAL (PRT) 800780606 ROMANIA >>>>(ROM) 0800895088 RUSSIAN FEDERATION (RUS) 81080022641012 >>>>SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS (KNA) 18007449281 SINGAPORE >>>>(SGP) 8001011437 64944158 SLOVAKIA (SVK) 0800004237 >>>>SOUTH AFRICA (ZAF) 0800990941 SPAIN >>>>(ESP) 900800373 917911825 SWEDEN >>>>(SWE) 0201400591 0114966102 SWITZERLAND >>>>(CHE) 0800700285 0434569406 TAIWAN (TWN) 0809092289 >>>>TAJIKISTAN (TJK) 8108003337317 THAILAND (THA) 001800656917 >>>>UKRAINE (UKR) 88005042610 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES >>>>(ARE) 8000170894 UNITED KINGDOM (GBR) >>>>08004960579 02079040084 UNITED STATES (USA) >>>>8005048071 3032480281 URUGUAY (URY) 00040190114 >>>>UZBEKISTAN (UZB) 810800121006 VENEZUELA (VEN) 08001004179 >>>>*On-net numbers may not be available in all areas of the >>>>countries indicated. >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>>TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> >>_______________________________________________ >>TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >_______________________________________________ >TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From llynch@civil-tongue.net Thu Apr 23 12:56:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7263A6928 for ; 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charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Friday was Re: Call Friday 10 April X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:56:12 -0000 On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Russ Housley wrote: > What is the difference between Depends and Pre-Depends? the deb-control man page says: Depends: List of packages that are required for this package to provide a non-trivial amount of functionality. The package maintenance software will not allow a package to be installed if the packages listed in its Depends field aren't installed (at least not without using the force options), and will run the postinst scripts of packages listed in Depends: fields before those of the packages which depend on them, and run prerm scripts before. Pre-Depends: List of packages that must be installed and configured before this one can be installed. This is usually used in the case where this package requires another package for running its preinst script. see: http://linuxreviews.org/man/deb-control/ note that control file items are mostly optional, so if there are no pre-depends, conflicts, etc. the field just doesn't get used. - Lucy > At 04:20 PM 4/22/2009, Lucy Lynch wrote: >> On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: >> >>> All, >>> >>> A reminder of the call this Friday at 10:00 am EDT (UTC-4). Agenda below. >> >> All - >> >> I've been thinking about the software maintenance issue and I think that >> Henrik's suggestion that we use something like the deb-control file is >> a good one. I've looked at the debian stuff and they have a set of standard >> package files the would get us started: >> >> Package: >> Version: >> Maintainer: >> Description: >> Section:
>> Priority: >> Essential: >> Architecture: >> Source: >> Depends: >> Pre-Depends: >> Recommends: >> Suggests: >> Conflicts: >> Replaces: >> Provides: >> >> but we probably want a bit more information as things are scattered >> among several platforms, sites, etc. I've started a list: >> >> Module: - question, are there tools the multiple >> maintainers for sub-sets of code? >> Maintainer_Backup: >> >> Network_URI: >> Backup_URI: >> Beta_URI: - optional >> >> Framework: <> - optional, do you need this? >> Language: - i.e. python, perl, etc. >> Revision_Control: - how and where to store/get the stuff >> >> Supports: - may not be needed if we parse all >> control files >> >> Change_Req: - maintainer driven >> Freeze_Req: - this most likely relates to IETF >> meeting and submission dates >> Contributors: - additional names >> IETF: - This one is for Russ ;-) >> Additional_Orgs: <> - ? do we track other orgs who use IETF >> tools - like I2 and XML2RFC? >> >> >> and I'm sure I've missed some things that would be nice to have. >> >> I know Ray was thinking that this would be a web form that the developers >> would fill in and then the results would provide a contact database. I >> think that may be backwards. I think we want a control file (or files) for >> each tool and a parser that will scrape the results, sync, and provide them >> to the team and to Ray (could be web-a-vized). >> >> This would take a little work to regularize the data entry conventions, >> but would end up being easier to maintain (as long as coders remember >> to update the control file). >> >> 2 cents - >> >> - Lucy >> >>> Ray >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: >>> >>>> All; >>>> Appears that holidays impacted today's attendance. Accordingly we are >>>> rescheduling to Friday 24 April at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). >>>> A more flushed out agenda follows. >>>> Thanks >>>> Ray >>>> Agenda: >>>> 1. SF Code Sprint >>>> Results >>>> Stockholm >>>> 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee >>>> Define 'Mission Critical' tools and services >>>> Membership >>>> Review Process >>>> Acceptance Criteria (code, cost, etc) >>>> 3. Datatracker Support Consensus >>>> Datatracker from 00 - RFC# >>>> 'Support' for Authors, WG Chairs, IESG, RFC Editor, IANA, Secretariat & >>>> community >>>> 'Support' - tools and/or information >>>> 4. Other >>>> - Tools Inventory Template >>>> >>>> On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: >>>> >>>>> All; >>>>> We will have our monthly call tis Friday at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). Call >>>>> in details below. >>>>> Agenda: >>>>> 1. SF Code Sprint >>>>> 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee >>>>> 3. Datatracker Support Consensus >>>>> 4. Other >>>>> Ray >>>>> Access Code: 3269881 >>>>> Country Toll free number Toll number On-net* >>>>> ARGENTINA (ARG) 08008007323 01151717323 AUSTRALIA (AUS) >>>>> 1800359924 AUSTRIA (AUT) 0800291800 BAHAMAS (BHS) >>>>> 18003890349 BELARUS (BLR) 882000110035 BELGIUM (BEL) >>>>> 080039119 027924505 BOTSWANA (BWA) 002698003000557 BRAZIL >>>>> (BRA) 08008873239 01149497323 BULGARIA (BGR) 008001151067 >>>>> CANADA (CAN) 8005048071 6477233983 CHILE (CHL) 800532833 >>>>> CHINA UNIFIED (CHINA TELECOM) 8008190328 4006208035 COLOMBIA (COL) >>>>> 018009198715 COSTA RICA (CRI) 08000150522 CROATIA (HRV) >>>>> 0800222927 CYPRUS (CYP) 80096147 CZECH REPUBLIC (CZE) 800142548 >>>>> DENMARK (DNK) 80703116 36927814 DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (DOM) >>>>> 18887514523 ECUADOR (ECU) 1800010184 ESTONIA (EST) >>>>> 8000100225 FINLAND (FIN) 0800772087 0923193947 FRANCE (FRA) >>>>> 0800941634 0174180779 GERMANY (DEU) 08001014529 >>>>> 089710404600 GREECE (GRC) 0080016122038715 HONG KONG (HKG) >>>>> 30508639 HUNGARY (HUN) 0680015305 ICELAND (ISL) 8008086 INDIA >>>>> (IND) 0008001006005 0008001005002 0008000012011 000182 INDONESIA >>>>> (IDN) 0018030152030072 IRELAND (IRL) 1800719953 16530905 >>>>> ISRAEL (ISR) 1809458715 ITALY (ITA) 800182599 200617507 JAPAN >>>>> (JPN) 00531001557 KAZAKHSTAN (KAZ) 88003337317 KOREA, REPUBLIC OF >>>>> (KOR) 00308140437 KYRGYZSTAN (KGZ) 0080070077706 LATVIA (LVA) >>>>> 80000742 LUXEMBOURG (LUX) 80023947 MALAYSIA (MYS) 1800807136 >>>>> MEXICO (MEX) 0018005148260 MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF (MDA) 080069001 >>>>> MONACO (MCO) 80093340 NETHERLANDS (NLD) 08002658226 0207084835 >>>>> NEW ZEALAND (NZL) 0800440066 NORWAY (NOR) 80056403 21033159 >>>>> PANAMA (PAN) 008002269745 PERU (PER) 080070373 017057323 >>>>> PHILIPPINES (PHL) 180011100764 POLAND (POL) 008001114567 >>>>> PORTUGAL (PRT) 800780606 ROMANIA (ROM) 0800895088 RUSSIAN FEDERATION >>>>> (RUS) 81080022641012 SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS (KNA) 18007449281 >>>>> SINGAPORE (SGP) 8001011437 64944158 SLOVAKIA (SVK) 0800004237 >>>>> SOUTH AFRICA (ZAF) 0800990941 SPAIN (ESP) 900800373 917911825 >>>>> SWEDEN (SWE) 0201400591 0114966102 SWITZERLAND (CHE) 0800700285 >>>>> 0434569406 TAIWAN (TWN) 0809092289 TAJIKISTAN (TJK) 8108003337317 >>>>> THAILAND (THA) 001800656917 UKRAINE (UKR) 88005042610 UNITED >>>>> ARAB EMIRATES (ARE) 8000170894 UNITED KINGDOM (GBR) 08004960579 >>>>> 02079040084 UNITED STATES (USA) 8005048071 3032480281 URUGUAY (URY) >>>>> 00040190114 UZBEKISTAN (UZB) 810800121006 VENEZUELA (VEN) >>>>> 08001004179 >>>>> *On-net numbers may not be available in all areas of the countries >>>>> indicated. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From rpelletier@isoc.org Fri Apr 24 06:13:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80433A6A43 for ; 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MCBuDQp0cmFpbGVyDTw8L1NpemUgNj4+DXN0YXJ0eHJlZg0xMTYNJSVFT0YN --Apple-Mail-24-278702854 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Apr 22, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All, > > A reminder of the call this Friday at 10:00 am EDT (UTC-4). Agenda > below. > > Ray > > > > On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> All; >> >> Appears that holidays impacted today's attendance. Accordingly we >> are rescheduling to Friday 24 April at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). >> >> A more flushed out agenda follows. >> >> Thanks >> >> Ray >> >> Agenda: >> >> 1. SF Code Sprint >> Results >> Stockholm >> >> 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee >> Define 'Mission Critical' tools and services >> Membership >> Review Process >> Acceptance Criteria (code, cost, etc) >> >> 3. Datatracker Support Consensus >> Datatracker from 00 - RFC# >> 'Support' for Authors, WG Chairs, IESG, RFC Editor, IANA, >> Secretariat & community >> 'Support' - tools and/or information >> >> 4. Other >> - Tools Inventory Template >> >> >> On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: >> >>> All; >>> >>> We will have our monthly call tis Friday at 10:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). >>> Call in details below. >>> >>> Agenda: >>> >>> 1. SF Code Sprint >>> >>> 2. Mission Critical Subcommittee >>> >>> 3. Datatracker Support Consensus >>> >>> 4. Other >>> >>> Ray >>> >>> Access Code: 3269881 >>> >>> Country Toll free number Toll number On-net* >>> ARGENTINA (ARG) 08008007323 01151717323 >>> AUSTRALIA (AUS) 1800359924 >>> AUSTRIA (AUT) 0800291800 >>> BAHAMAS (BHS) 18003890349 >>> BELARUS (BLR) 882000110035 >>> BELGIUM (BEL) 080039119 027924505 >>> BOTSWANA (BWA) 002698003000557 >>> BRAZIL (BRA) 08008873239 01149497323 >>> BULGARIA (BGR) 008001151067 >>> CANADA (CAN) 8005048071 6477233983 >>> CHILE (CHL) 800532833 >>> CHINA UNIFIED (CHINA TELECOM) 8008190328 >>> 4006208035 >>> COLOMBIA (COL) 018009198715 >>> COSTA RICA (CRI) 08000150522 >>> CROATIA (HRV) 0800222927 >>> CYPRUS (CYP) 80096147 >>> CZECH REPUBLIC (CZE) 800142548 >>> DENMARK (DNK) 80703116 36927814 >>> DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (DOM) 18887514523 >>> ECUADOR (ECU) 1800010184 >>> ESTONIA (EST) 8000100225 >>> FINLAND (FIN) 0800772087 0923193947 >>> FRANCE (FRA) 0800941634 0174180779 >>> GERMANY (DEU) 08001014529 089710404600 >>> GREECE (GRC) 0080016122038715 >>> HONG KONG (HKG) 30508639 >>> HUNGARY (HUN) 0680015305 >>> ICELAND (ISL) 8008086 >>> INDIA (IND) 0008001006005 >>> 0008001005002 >>> 0008000012011 >>> 000182 >>> INDONESIA (IDN) 0018030152030072 >>> IRELAND (IRL) 1800719953 16530905 >>> ISRAEL (ISR) 1809458715 >>> ITALY (ITA) 800182599 200617507 >>> JAPAN (JPN) 00531001557 >>> KAZAKHSTAN (KAZ) 88003337317 >>> KOREA, REPUBLIC OF (KOR) 00308140437 >>> KYRGYZSTAN (KGZ) 0080070077706 >>> LATVIA (LVA) 80000742 >>> LUXEMBOURG (LUX) 80023947 >>> MALAYSIA (MYS) 1800807136 >>> MEXICO (MEX) 0018005148260 >>> MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF (MDA) 080069001 >>> MONACO (MCO) 80093340 >>> NETHERLANDS (NLD) 08002658226 0207084835 >>> NEW ZEALAND (NZL) 0800440066 >>> NORWAY (NOR) 80056403 21033159 >>> PANAMA (PAN) 008002269745 >>> PERU (PER) 080070373 017057323 >>> PHILIPPINES (PHL) 180011100764 >>> POLAND (POL) 008001114567 >>> PORTUGAL (PRT) 800780606 >>> ROMANIA (ROM) 0800895088 >>> RUSSIAN FEDERATION (RUS) 81080022641012 >>> SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS (KNA) 18007449281 >>> SINGAPORE (SGP) 8001011437 64944158 >>> SLOVAKIA (SVK) 0800004237 >>> SOUTH AFRICA (ZAF) 0800990941 >>> SPAIN (ESP) 900800373 917911825 >>> SWEDEN (SWE) 0201400591 0114966102 >>> SWITZERLAND (CHE) 0800700285 0434569406 >>> TAIWAN (TWN) 0809092289 >>> TAJIKISTAN (TJK) 8108003337317 >>> THAILAND (THA) 001800656917 >>> UKRAINE (UKR) 88005042610 >>> UNITED ARAB EMIRATES (ARE) 8000170894 >>> UNITED KINGDOM (GBR) 08004960579 02079040084 >>> UNITED STATES (USA) 8005048071 3032480281 >>> URUGUAY (URY) 00040190114 >>> UZBEKISTAN (UZB) 810800121006 >>> VENEZUELA (VEN) 08001004179 >>> >>> *On-net numbers may not be available in all areas of the countries >>> indicated. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> > --Apple-Mail-24-278702854-- From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri Apr 24 07:03:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D420F3A701C for ; 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Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:05:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59332 helo=chardonnay.local) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LxM1T-0004wP-KN; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:04:59 +0200 Message-ID: <49F1C70E.9030006@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:05:02 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-development@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [Fwd: IETF-74 Codesprint information] X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:03:49 -0000 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: IETF-74 Codesprint information Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:59:19 -0700 From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Russ Housley CC: Bill Fenner , Robert Sparks Hi Russ, Here is some data on the IETF-74 codesprint (http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/IETF74Sprint): We had 15 people signed up, and have so far made 5 releases thisn week, based on work completed during this codesprint, and we expect to make a couple of more releases. The work was focused on writing django-based code to replace the old scripts which access the database tables directly. Getting rid of those will make it possible to change, and redesign the database, which is pretty much impossible right now. We've now converted 8 out of 19 scripts, according to the status page http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/IETF73SprintLegacyScriptsDocumentation We've also integrated a major contribution from Bill Fenner, which provides an authentication framework which lets us * import old accounts and passwords into Django's native authentication (preventing disruption when moving password-protected services) * provides a user-accessible password reset, and the possibility of using the same password for all services which require logging in (potentially including tools.ietf.org and rfc-editor.org logins) * lets us build all kinds of new applications which require login, while retaining people's old logins. We've seen this as a must before extending the ID-tracker to for instance provide WG-chair support tools. People: ------- (Taken from the sign-up page: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/IETF74SprintSignUp) Robert Sparks Henrik Levkowetz Lars Eggert Blessings Msowoya Pasi Eronen Adam Roach Ben Campbell Arifumi Matsumoto Paul Hoffman Richard Barnes Dean Willis Jari Arkko Tero Kivinen Chris Newman Aaron Stone Releases: --------- This information is probably way too detailed to use for your slides, but here it is, for completeness. It's taken from the changelog: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/branch/2.00/changelog) ietfdb (2.23) * Fixed a wrong link in the html agenda (from Henrik) * Removed the explicit database server ip address in settings.py (from Henrik) * Integrated updated authorization system. This requires applying database fixups as follows: cd /a/www/ietf-datatracker/2.23/ietf python manage.py dbshell < ../test/sql_fixup.sql The existing htpasswd file can be imported into this new system as follows: export PYTHONPATH=/a/www/ietf-datatracker/2.23 export DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE=ietf.settings /a/www/ietf-datatracker/2.23/ietf/bin/import-users /a/www/htpasswd Please capture the output of the import-users script, as it will help us resolve any troubles that users have. * Fixed infinite loop in wrapping code that prevented display of certain document comments -- Bill Fenner 24 Mar 2009 17:48:12 PDT ietfdb (2.22) * Fixed the menubar nomcom link. * Merged in Chris' django-based replacement for the old perl-based WG overview page, the 1wg-summary.txt and 1wg-summary-by-acronym.txt pages. -- Henrik Levkowetz 22 Mar 2009 2:22:09 +0100 ietfdb (2.21) * Merged in Adams django-based replacement for the old perl-based nomcom announcement pages. -- Henrik Levkowetz 22 Mar 2009 1:09:00 +0100 ietfdb (2.20) * Merged in Roberts django-based replacement for the old perl script generating all_id.txt -- Henrik Levkowetz 22 Mar 2009 0:20:03 +0100 ietfdb (2.19) * Merged in code from Pasi containing auxiliary tables and support scripts for his new document meta-information pages. * Merged in code from Pasi for a machine-readable list of documents on the next iesg-agenda. * ** To deploy this release, the Django db sync command has to be run (python .../ietf/manage.py syncdb) and the cron scripts which fetch information from the RFC-editor and tools.ietf.org has to be set up to run ** -- Henrik Levkowetz 21 Mar 2009 22:33:07 +0100 From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri Apr 24 08:22:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCA13A684A for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:22:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aViwG5GIt-vO for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av12-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av12-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.186]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E63A3A6BDF for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by av12-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 6B8083811F; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:22:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av12-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45ED737FCC; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:22:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-232-110-214-no16.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.110.214]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0719B37E43; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:22:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45093 helo=chardonnay.local) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LxNEI-0005re-Sj; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:22:18 +0200 Message-ID: <49F1D92D.1070500@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:22:21 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lucy Lynch References: <6E15C7FF-AE86-4AD3-AE7F-E52A66FDF20C@isoc.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: llynch@civil-tongue.net, rpelletier@isoc.org, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Friday was Re: Call Friday 10 April X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:22:19 -0000 Hi Lucy, all, Some comments on the control file fields, below: On 2009-04-22 22:20 Lucy Lynch said the following: > On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> All, >> >> A reminder of the call this Friday at 10:00 am EDT (UTC-4). Agenda below. > > All - > > I've been thinking about the software maintenance issue and I think that > Henrik's suggestion that we use something like the deb-control file is > a good one. I've looked at the debian stuff and they have a set of > standard package files the would get us started: > > Package: > Version: > Maintainer: > Description: > Section:
> Priority: > Essential: > Architecture: > Source: > Depends: > Pre-Depends: > Recommends: > Suggests: > Conflicts: > Replaces: > Provides: > > but we probably want a bit more information as things are scattered > among several platforms, sites, etc. I've started a list: > > Module: - question, are there tools the multiple > maintainers for sub-sets of code? I think we should take the easy path here and not provide sub-module control info. Instead we break any tool that has different maintainer and other info for different parts of it as two or more tools with two or more control files. > Maintainer_Backup: Not sure about this one.... > Network_URI: I have the equivalent of this in my control files already: "Url: ", so I agree it's something we should have. > Backup_URI: > Beta_URI: - optional I think both of the above may be somewhat useful, but I'd not focus on them now... > Framework: <> - optional, do you need this? No, should be covered by the Depends: field > Language: - i.e. python, perl, etc. No, should be covered by the Depends: field > Revision_Control: - how and where to store/get the stuff Yes, good point, and I have a close equivalent of this in the control files I use, with the label Source: . Maybe call this "Repository:", to cover both the case where there is an actual version control system, and the case where the author just exposes a URL where you can get the latest version. > Supports: - may not be needed if we parse all > control files Agreed. Explicitly setting this violates the DRY principle > Change_Req: - maintainer driven > Freeze_Req: - this most likely relates to IETF > meeting and submission dates > Contributors: - additional names Ack. > IETF: - This one is for Russ ;-) Maybe we can re-use Priority for this? > Additional_Orgs: <> - ? do we track other orgs who use IETF > tools - like I2 and XML2RFC? This is for later, I think. > > and I'm sure I've missed some things that would be nice to have. I have a Category: field which can be any of: author chair display meeting news review search share stats support validation depending on which rough category the usage of the tool is. I also have an Author: field, which is something which is missing from the Debian control files because they don't really need it, but it is important for us. Regards, Henrik From llynch@civil-tongue.net Fri Apr 24 13:58:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6793A6BD3 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:58:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aRtMjWPzpJZI for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (hiroshima.bogus.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E473A684A for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3OL0DmO041178; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llynch@civil-tongue.net) Received: from localhost (llynch@localhost) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n3OL0Dsn041175; Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llynch@civil-tongue.net) Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:00:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Lucy Lynch X-X-Sender: llynch@hiroshima.bogus.com To: Henrik Levkowetz In-Reply-To: <49F1D92D.1070500@levkowetz.com> Message-ID: References: <6E15C7FF-AE86-4AD3-AE7F-E52A66FDF20C@isoc.org> <49F1D92D.1070500@levkowetz.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Friday was Re: Call Friday 10 April X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:58:57 -0000 On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Lucy, all, > > Some comments on the control file fields, below: >> >> Module: - question, are there tools the multiple >> maintainers for sub-sets of code? > > I think we should take the easy path here and not provide sub-module control > info. Instead we break any tool that has different maintainer and other > info for different parts of it as two or more tools with two or more > control files. makes sense to me >> Maintainer_Backup: > > Not sure about this one.... this may be a seperate issue from the control data - trying to slove the "who do you call when the maintainer can't be reached?" question. >> Network_URI: > > I have the equivalent of this in my control files already: "Url: ", > so I agree it's something we should have. > >> Backup_URI: >> Beta_URI: - optional > > I think both of the above may be somewhat useful, but I'd not focus on > them now... fine by me >> Framework: <> - optional, do you need this? > > No, should be covered by the Depends: field > >> Language: - i.e. python, perl, etc. > > No, should be covered by the Depends: field > >> Revision_Control: - how and where to store/get the stuff > > Yes, good point, and I have a close equivalent of this in the control files > I use, with the label Source: . Maybe call this "Repository:", to cover > both the case where there is an actual version control system, and the case > where the author just exposes a URL where you can get the latest version. I like Repository: ! >> Supports: - may not be needed if we parse all >> control files > > Agreed. Explicitly setting this violates the DRY principle > >> Change_Req: - maintainer driven >> Freeze_Req: - this most likely relates to IETF >> meeting and submission dates >> Contributors: - additional names > > Ack. > >> IETF: - This one is for Russ ;-) > > Maybe we can re-use Priority for this? > >> Additional_Orgs: <> - ? do we track other orgs who use IETF >> tools - like I2 and XML2RFC? > > This is for later, I think. > >> >> and I'm sure I've missed some things that would be nice to have. > > I have a Category: field which can be any of: > > author > chair > display > meeting > news > review > search > share > stats > support > validation > > depending on which rough category the usage of the tool is. > > I also have an Author: field, which is something which is missing from > the Debian control files because they don't really need it, but it is > important for us. I like these as well - - Lucy > > Regards, > > Henrik >