From rpelletier@isoc.org Wed May 6 12:47:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14463A6896 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:47:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.089, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BgTlExtd05C4 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9E53A6D61 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 12:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DAFB21B405A for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id D3CA71B4046 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Ray Pelletier To: tools-development@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 1 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:47:43 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Friday 8 May Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:47:48 -0000 All; I will be on Holiday this Friday and propose postponing the call until Friday 15 May at the same time unless there's an objection. Ray From henrik@levkowetz.com Wed May 6 15:47:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2EB28C12F for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:47:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NxkB94WmsXSC for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.186]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3183A6C0B for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 15:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 7891637F29; Thu, 7 May 2009 00:47:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575C737E96; Thu, 7 May 2009 00:47:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-232-110-214-no16.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.110.214]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF37A37E44; Thu, 7 May 2009 00:47:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50356 helo=chardonnay.local) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M1ptM-0002y3-Gy; Thu, 07 May 2009 00:47:08 +0200 Message-ID: <4A021389.5090805@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 00:47:37 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Pelletier References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rpelletier@isoc.org, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Friday 8 May Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 22:47:02 -0000 On 2009-05-06 21:47 Ray Pelletier said the following: > All; > > I will be on Holiday this Friday and propose postponing the call until > Friday 15 May at the same time unless there's an objection. WFM (But I have a booked appointment 90 minutes after the call start, so can't stay more than the hour on the 15th) Henrik From bob.hinden@gmail.com Wed May 6 22:49:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B173A69E2 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 22:49:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.358 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.358 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.241, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b53Yol4W5TrE for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 22:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ew0-f176.google.com (mail-ew0-f176.google.com [209.85.219.176]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337103A67F1 for ; Wed, 6 May 2009 22:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so784043ewy.37 for ; Wed, 06 May 2009 22:50:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:in-reply-to:subject :x-priority:references:message-id:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date:cc:x-mailer; bh=BD0bW/5nCv+iPDhXIf86cwrjDlzE3ENQyvXefEUanPI=; b=GNRv+x240YHl5/MjQKJobtfNT6tw5HUJAURh70uWXWPpSuErZVs+iyhnTBtb1086VY W3w850Tbv8nxveRTB/T2VCMu1dXXKFx7A1UMK3KyThDfneIidbSny53vYQmoutrbGAOU u6DV93/sis+ySGBgF6F3+9LXfCGZIDmgbYdAE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:in-reply-to:subject:x-priority:references:message-id :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date:cc :x-mailer; b=oiLHENoebgmfuQw1Qjdouf0J51KWbO3OKsN4fvLvsC8p3o6M3ClEArMFeJO16kLCka 8qTQ9k7NMGDwIDSb/bK3oaRUyeCLBqYtsr9nwa0ZaDyWym7GW1lunmY+xIP87de17gq/ AecXZEZ8kHSz8nIGhkivJ0SZghQKfwyRip3zY= Received: by 10.210.105.8 with SMTP id d8mr2498762ebc.70.1241675454519; Wed, 06 May 2009 22:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?194.29.46.128? (dyn46-128.checkpoint.com [194.29.46.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm2481787eye.26.2009.05.06.22.50.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 06 May 2009 22:50:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Hinden To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 1 References: Message-Id: <020FBCC5-E2F4-4D64-863F-EF529436DEE6@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:50:49 +0300 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Friday 8 May Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 05:49:30 -0000 On May 6, 2009, at 10:47 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All; > > I will be on Holiday this Friday and propose postponing the call > until Friday 15 May at the same time unless there's an objection. Works for me too. I wasn't going to be able to make this Friday anyway. Bob From rpelletier@isoc.org Thu May 7 06:38:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC183A7007 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:38:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.504 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.504 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.095, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Irx5njrXEnYQ for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.134]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2C33A6FB2 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay23.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay23.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2730F1B41C4; Thu, 7 May 2009 09:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay23.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 0C37B1B4018; Thu, 7 May 2009 09:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Ray Pelletier To: lynch@isoc.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:40:15 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Friday 8 May Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:38:51 -0000 Sorry, I had previously committed to another meeting on the 15th at that time and didnt mark my calendar. Does the 22nd work for everyone? Ray sorry' On May 7, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Lucy Lynch wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> All; >> >> I will be on Holiday this Friday and propose postponing the call >> until Friday 15 May at the same time unless there's an objection. > > works for me > >> Ray >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From bob.hinden@gmail.com Thu May 7 06:41:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D2228C160 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:41:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.398 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.398 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.201, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38bWOzTca-Bf for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6453A6B83 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so255497eyd.31 for ; Thu, 07 May 2009 06:43:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=aQZGR104f/8PzI0Mb1jooVqDAwIpb516HtEmCvxrgT0=; b=rPyJyenIRRoE2l7xmj5Qcg7RCqgVY1pKoQR2ZlgaPyWySVISITSYWr1wM1+nz9EbdK WAs3brOfTu3B/8Ka0OznJVDx0GffcjSLKWzMia9lWt2j/cKeMhd9lVoGQdRjab9uBz4X +rbzpnehZ/wr4w6vczxPTm3s60Q4REpyvgDRE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=qCGKOKJucTACzByB+lg1YbFexj+RQsYmgT6kj8o4cP2v9jLTkSB/pMHMS+nLj533Ws ntn6oU+kyI912Y6G53w5F0fDL5v/Y76GhM5krt3PBYVYQWCswSfnz7BsgVpZSAxep+NM 9tD+4kNSUf6TCh8XumVwkYJI+Zf9nYEqBN3vM= Received: by 10.210.28.5 with SMTP id b5mr725199ebb.7.1241703782957; Thu, 07 May 2009 06:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?194.29.46.128? (dyn46-128.checkpoint.com [194.29.46.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm263740eye.6.2009.05.07.06.43.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 07 May 2009 06:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1625B105-81D0-46FD-8333-D43D8D7E19E8@gmail.com> From: Bob Hinden To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:42:58 +0300 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: lynch@isoc.org, tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Friday 8 May Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:41:48 -0000 On May 7, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > Sorry, I had previously committed to another meeting on the 15th at > that time and didnt mark my calendar. > > Does the 22nd work for everyone? OK for me. Bob From llynch@civil-tongue.net Thu May 7 06:47:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B1E3A6C1F for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:47:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.58 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.58 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.019, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dCafXsRClo0D for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (hiroshima.bogus.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195A53A6B4E for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n47DmVMw000390; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:48:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llynch@civil-tongue.net) Received: from localhost (llynch@localhost) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n47DmV71000387; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:48:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llynch@civil-tongue.net) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 06:48:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Lucy Lynch X-X-Sender: llynch@hiroshima.bogus.com To: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <1625B105-81D0-46FD-8333-D43D8D7E19E8@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <1625B105-81D0-46FD-8333-D43D8D7E19E8@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: lynch@isoc.org, tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Friday 8 May Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:47:10 -0000 On Thu, 7 May 2009, Bob Hinden wrote: > > On May 7, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> Sorry, I had previously committed to another meeting on the 15th at that >> time and didnt mark my calendar. >> >> Does the 22nd work for everyone? I will be traveling, I'll calendar this but may have to skip. - Lucy > OK for me. > > Bob From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Thu May 7 06:50:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8A63A7000 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:50:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.179 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.179 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KfKJT-qHu+vY for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se (mailgw3.ericsson.se [193.180.251.60]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA813A6FCC for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:50:33 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3c-b7b40ae000003af8-9a-4a02e7661602 Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id BA.15.15096.667E20A4; Thu, 7 May 2009 15:51:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.170]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 7 May 2009 15:51:30 +0200 Received: from [153.88.50.61] ([153.88.50.61]) by esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 7 May 2009 15:51:29 +0200 Message-ID: <4A02E761.2040708@ericsson.com> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:51:29 +0200 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Pelletier References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2009 13:51:29.0845 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC5DF650:01C9CF1A] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: lynch@isoc.org, tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Friday 8 May Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:50:36 -0000 Ray Pelletier skrev: > Sorry, I had previously committed to another meeting on the 15th at that > time and didnt mark my calendar. > > Does the 22nd work for everyone? > No, that is a Swedish holiday, or rather a day between a holiday and a weekend when I am free from work. /Magnus > Ray > > sorry' > > > On May 7, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Lucy Lynch wrote: > >> On Wed, 6 May 2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: >> >>> All; >>> >>> I will be on Holiday this Friday and propose postponing the call >>> until Friday 15 May at the same time unless there's an objection. >> >> works for me >> >>> Ray >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > -- Magnus Westerlund IETF Transport Area Director & TSVWG Chair ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Thu May 7 08:52:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7883A71E8 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 08:52:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.183 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.183 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.066, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gWSgshl01gm7 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 08:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (mailgw4.ericsson.se [193.180.251.62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5483A70FB for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 08:50:43 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3e-b7b7bae000000a45-5c-4a02fb283ea3 Received: from esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id BE.3F.02629.82BF20A4; Thu, 7 May 2009 17:15:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.172]) by esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 7 May 2009 15:36:25 +0200 Received: from [153.88.50.61] ([153.88.50.61]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 7 May 2009 15:35:29 +0200 Message-ID: <4A02E39F.1030001@ericsson.com> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:35:27 +0200 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Pelletier References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2009 13:35:29.0624 (UTC) FILETIME=[B007DD80:01C9CF18] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Friday 8 May Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:52:41 -0000 Ray Pelletier skrev: > All; > > I will be on Holiday this Friday and propose postponing the call until > Friday 15 May at the same time unless there's an objection. > Works also for me, even if I could have used the update before the IESG retreat. So if you have things that you like IESG to know discuss that has happened laterly within tools development I could use the report. Cheers Magnus Westerlund IETF Transport Area Director & TSVWG Chair ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri May 8 07:15:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768283A7134 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 07:15:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.855 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.855 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.745, BAYES_05=-1.11, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wwR+v2TclyiR for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 07:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av9-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av9-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.185]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245F128C185 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 07:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by av9-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id F138737F97; Fri, 8 May 2009 16:16:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av9-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD21937E4E for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 16:16:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-232-110-214-no16.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.110.214]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2C037E5E for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 16:16:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48593 helo=chardonnay.local) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M2Qrs-0005pY-SD; Fri, 08 May 2009 16:16:04 +0200 Message-ID: <4A043EC5.8050401@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 16:16:37 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <4A02E761.2040708@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <4A02E761.2040708@ericsson.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Friday 8 May Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:15:13 -0000 On 2009-05-07 15:51 Magnus Westerlund said the following: > Ray Pelletier skrev: >> Sorry, I had previously committed to another meeting on the 15th at that >> time and didnt mark my calendar. >> >> Does the 22nd work for everyone? >> > > No, that is a Swedish holiday, or rather a day between a holiday and a > weekend when I am free from work. Same here. I'd prefer not to schedule anything on the 22nd. Henrik From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri May 8 07:24:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7415D3A7134 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 07:24:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.351 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.351 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.248, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZsLwFTiMs8Go for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 07:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837BB3A7129 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 07:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 0EC923802E; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:45:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8EC37F65 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 15:45:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-232-110-214-no16.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.110.214]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388FA37E44 for ; Fri, 8 May 2009 16:26:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40835 helo=chardonnay.local) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M2R16-000898-J5; Fri, 08 May 2009 16:25:36 +0200 Message-ID: <4A044100.9010203@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 16:26:08 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-development@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tabular tools overview X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:24:44 -0000 Hi, Here is a tabular tools overview, extracted from the current control files: http://shiraz.tools.ietf.org/tools/table I've not gone over the control files for other authors' tools, so the version information and other details for those may not be correct. I've also not yet updated the control files to match what Lucy and I discussed earlier in the thread on control file content, will start on that next. Comments welcome. Best, Henrik From rpelletier@isoc.org Sat May 9 04:31:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563973A6D6D for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 04:31:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.092, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JdWF4OJl09So for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 04:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp214.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp214.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.214]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517113A6AF0 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 04:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay11.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 54A5F1B4095; Sat, 9 May 2009 07:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay11.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 3D2401B4087; Sat, 9 May 2009 07:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Ray Pelletier To: Henrik Levkowetz In-Reply-To: <4A044100.9010203@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 07:33:00 -0400 References: <4A044100.9010203@levkowetz.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tabular tools overview X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 11:31:39 -0000 Henrik, This is interesting. Thank you. 1. I am not able to discern a sort order. Is there one, or is there one that suggests itsef? 2. It's not obvious to me (and it could be because I don't use them) what part of the process from I-D, to IESG review, to RFC, or perhaps, who the users are where each of these tools belong. Is there a grouping that makes sense? Ray On May 8, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi, > > Here is a tabular tools overview, extracted from the current control > files: > > http://shiraz.tools.ietf.org/tools/table > > I've not gone over the control files for other authors' tools, so > the version > information and other details for those may not be correct. I've > also not yet > updated the control files to match what Lucy and I discussed earlier > in the > thread on control file content, will start on that next. > > Comments welcome. > > Best, > > Henrik > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From rpelletier@isoc.org Sat May 9 05:32:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180583A6918 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 05:32:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.092, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jjb3kuGewR-V for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 05:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.134]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69AC3A67D8 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 05:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ACA5C44C09F for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 08:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 9D63C44C015 for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 08:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <8021E22F-0ADE-4246-923A-62DC120A4EDB@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: tools-development@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 1 Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 08:34:01 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Call Poll X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 12:32:37 -0000 All; Let's see if we can arrive on a date and time using doodle. http://doodle.com/97eeyuxrkyfpk2ni Should have done that initially. Ray From henrik@levkowetz.com Sat May 9 09:58:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9093A6E7A for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 09:58:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.413 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.413 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.186, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vOeLmEguQZLO for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 09:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380393A6E2A for ; Sat, 9 May 2009 09:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id DFFB138637; Sat, 9 May 2009 18:19:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8149D38629; Sat, 9 May 2009 18:19:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-232-110-214-no16.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.110.214]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD1F37E4F; Sat, 9 May 2009 19:00:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53131 helo=chardonnay.local) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M2ptP-0001QO-Qp; Sat, 09 May 2009 18:59:21 +0200 Message-ID: <4A05B685.8010907@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 18:59:49 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Pelletier References: <4A044100.9010203@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rpelletier@isoc.org, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tabular tools overview X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 16:58:35 -0000 Hi Ray, On 2009-05-09 13:33 Ray Pelletier said the following: > Henrik, > This is interesting. Thank you. > > 1. I am not able to discern a sort order. Is there one, or is there > one that suggests itsef? The tools are grouped by 'category', but not otherwise sorted. > 2. It's not obvious to me (and it could be because I don't use them) > what part of the process from I-D, to IESG review, to RFC, or perhaps, > who the users are where each of these tools belong. Is there a > grouping that makes sense? The same as above, I think -- grouped by 'category'. This indicates the usage category for the tool. I don't think it makes a lot of sense to try to classify most of the tools as belonging to one particular part of the process. Take idnits -- it's used before the first submit of a draft, and all the way to an ADs review of a draft after it has been submitted to the IESG for publication. Or the html-docs tool, or the rfcdiff-tool -- they are applied to the earliest drafts and all the way up to published RFC. The 'category by user role' I've grouped by is one of the more meaningful I've found. (I'm sure there are others which haven't occurred to me, though.) Best, Henrik > Ray > > > On May 8, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Here is a tabular tools overview, extracted from the current control >> files: >> >> http://shiraz.tools.ietf.org/tools/table >> >> I've not gone over the control files for other authors' tools, so >> the version >> information and other details for those may not be correct. I've >> also not yet >> updated the control files to match what Lucy and I discussed earlier >> in the >> thread on control file content, will start on that next. >> >> Comments welcome. >> >> Best, >> >> Henrik >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Sun May 10 00:27:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3139A3A68C8 for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 00:27:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.167 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.167 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.082, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HKjHw3kv3QAu for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 00:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (mailgw4.ericsson.se [193.180.251.62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394A43A6895 for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 00:27:46 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3e-b7bc1ae00000675c-86-4a06824a5f0b Received: from esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 95.16.26460.A42860A4; Sun, 10 May 2009 09:29:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.171]) by esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 10 May 2009 09:29:14 +0200 Received: from [153.88.54.179] ([153.88.54.179]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 10 May 2009 09:29:14 +0200 Message-ID: <4A068249.8090104@ericsson.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 09:29:13 +0200 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <4A044100.9010203@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4A044100.9010203@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2009 07:29:14.0096 (UTC) FILETIME=[04D5A700:01C9D141] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tabular tools overview X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 07:27:47 -0000 Henrik Levkowetz skrev: > Hi, > > Here is a tabular tools overview, extracted from the current control files: > > http://shiraz.tools.ietf.org/tools/table > > I've not gone over the control files for other authors' tools, so the version > information and other details for those may not be correct. I've also not yet > updated the control files to match what Lucy and I discussed earlier in the > thread on control file content, will start on that next. > > Comments welcome. > So to me on a first glance there appear to be at least three tools on that list that are critical and for which there doesn't appear to exist any easy alternatives for: id-submission idnits rfcdiff Cheers Magnus Westerlund IETF Transport Area Director & TSVWG Chair ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From llynch@civil-tongue.net Sun May 10 13:52:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC24F3A6911 for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 13:52:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.582 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.582 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.017, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id em+BMLyR7oVG for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 13:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (hiroshima.bogus.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE4F3A69C2 for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 13:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4AKs8Vi023326; Sun, 10 May 2009 13:54:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llynch@civil-tongue.net) Received: from localhost (llynch@localhost) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4AKs7ax023323; Sun, 10 May 2009 13:54:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llynch@civil-tongue.net) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Lucy Lynch X-X-Sender: llynch@hiroshima.bogus.com To: Henrik Levkowetz In-Reply-To: <4A05B685.8010907@levkowetz.com> Message-ID: References: <4A044100.9010203@levkowetz.com> <4A05B685.8010907@levkowetz.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tabular tools overview X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:52:42 -0000 On Sat, 9 May 2009, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Ray, > > On 2009-05-09 13:33 Ray Pelletier said the following: >> Henrik, >> This is interesting. Thank you. >> >> 1. I am not able to discern a sort order. Is there one, or is there >> one that suggests itsef? > > The tools are grouped by 'category', but not otherwise sorted. > >> 2. It's not obvious to me (and it could be because I don't use them) >> what part of the process from I-D, to IESG review, to RFC, or perhaps, >> who the users are where each of these tools belong. Is there a >> grouping that makes sense? > > The same as above, I think -- grouped by 'category'. This indicates > the usage category for the tool. > > I don't think it makes a lot of sense to try to classify most of the > tools as belonging to one particular part of the process. Take idnits > -- it's used before the first submit of a draft, and all the way to an > ADs review of a draft after it has been submitted to the IESG for > publication. Or the html-docs tool, or the rfcdiff-tool -- they are > applied to the earliest drafts and all the way up to published RFC. > > The 'category by user role' I've grouped by is one of the more meaningful > I've found. (I'm sure there are others which haven't occurred to me, > though.) Henrik - Nice! I see in a recent update you've added some color coding... whats the distinction between pink and blue? - Lucy > > Best, > > Henrik > >> Ray >> >> >> On May 8, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Here is a tabular tools overview, extracted from the current control >>> files: >>> >>> http://shiraz.tools.ietf.org/tools/table >>> >>> I've not gone over the control files for other authors' tools, so >>> the version >>> information and other details for those may not be correct. I've >>> also not yet >>> updated the control files to match what Lucy and I discussed earlier >>> in the >>> thread on control file content, will start on that next. >>> >>> Comments welcome. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Henrik >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> >> > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From henrik@levkowetz.com Sun May 10 13:54:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D0C3A6BB6 for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 13:54:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.45 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.149, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5sDsKzbKRchF for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 13:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.181]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07F23A683D for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 13:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id CA2EC381E4; Sun, 10 May 2009 22:15:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD5C37F98; Sun, 10 May 2009 22:15:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-232-110-214-no16.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.110.214]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA2937E82; Sun, 10 May 2009 22:56:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53713 helo=chardonnay.local) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M3G3V-00058k-U6; Sun, 10 May 2009 22:55:30 +0200 Message-ID: <4A073F65.1000409@levkowetz.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 22:56:05 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Magnus Westerlund References: <4A044100.9010203@levkowetz.com> <4A068249.8090104@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <4A068249.8090104@ericsson.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tabular tools overview X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:54:40 -0000 On 2009-05-10 09:29 Magnus Westerlund said the following: > > So to me on a first glance there appear to be at least three tools on > that list that are critical and for which there doesn't appear to exist > any easy alternatives for: > > id-submission > idnits > rfcdiff I've added 'Ietf: Critical' to these. Best, Henrik From henrik@levkowetz.com Sun May 10 14:03:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372C23A69B2 for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 14:03:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.475 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.475 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.124, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qAeRANmjuPQI for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 14:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av8-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av8-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.184]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679A83A6801 for ; Sun, 10 May 2009 14:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by av8-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id C07A7381C4; Sun, 10 May 2009 23:05:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av8-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8540E37ED9; Sun, 10 May 2009 23:05:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-232-110-214-no16.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.110.214]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7588F37E7D; Sun, 10 May 2009 23:05:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47309 helo=chardonnay.local) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M3GCM-00074T-Ip; Sun, 10 May 2009 23:04:38 +0200 Message-ID: <4A07418B.5090001@levkowetz.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:05:15 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lucy Lynch References: <4A044100.9010203@levkowetz.com> <4A05B685.8010907@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: llynch@civil-tongue.net, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tabular tools overview X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:03:49 -0000 Hi Lucy, On 2009-05-10 22:54 Lucy Lynch said the following: > On Sat, 9 May 2009, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > Henrik - > > Nice! I see in a recent update you've added some color coding... > whats the distinction between pink and blue? No significance, just alternating between the different categories. I'll modify to give less appearance of siginificance to the colour... Henrik From rpelletier@isoc.org Wed May 13 04:19:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A6D3A677D for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 04:19:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.503 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.503 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.096, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F81di9BNMG0g for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 04:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE523A6BDF for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 04:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 293691E466A; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 15F8E1E42BA; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:21:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Ray Pelletier To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: <8021E22F-0ADE-4246-923A-62DC120A4EDB@isoc.org> X-Priority: 1 References: <8021E22F-0ADE-4246-923A-62DC120A4EDB@isoc.org> Message-Id: <2244A357-7E73-4F15-B59F-9463D91CBFF3@isoc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:21:14 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Call Poll X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:19:44 -0000 All; Looks like the 29th at 11:00 almost works. Russ has a hard stop at 11:30 and asks whether 10:45 on the 29th will work. Yes or No? Ray On May 9, 2009, at 8:34 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All; > > Let's see if we can arrive on a date and time using doodle. > > http://doodle.com/97eeyuxrkyfpk2ni > > Should have done that initially. > > Ray > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From henrik@levkowetz.com Wed May 13 07:00:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DD83A6FC6 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:00:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cL49BuJwyX5R for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36CF3A6D22 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:51868) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M4F1W-0002lw-Tu; Wed, 13 May 2009 16:01:31 +0200 Message-ID: <4A0AD2BA.40601@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:01:30 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Pelletier References: <8021E22F-0ADE-4246-923A-62DC120A4EDB@isoc.org> <2244A357-7E73-4F15-B59F-9463D91CBFF3@isoc.org> In-Reply-To: <2244A357-7E73-4F15-B59F-9463D91CBFF3@isoc.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rpelletier@isoc.org, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:14:11 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Call Poll X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:00:10 -0000 On 2009-05-13 13:21 Ray Pelletier said the following: > All; > > Looks like the 29th at 11:00 almost works. > > Russ has a hard stop at 11:30 and asks whether 10:45 on the 29th will > work. > > Yes or No? WFM Henrik From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Wed May 13 07:18:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3A93A6B7E for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:18:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.185 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.185 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qeKF3nLTInG6 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (mailgw4.ericsson.se [193.180.251.62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5843A6AC9 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:18:22 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3e-b7bc1ae00000675c-ac-4a0ad6a9e955 Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 9B.1E.26460.9A6DA0A4; Wed, 13 May 2009 16:18:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.176]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 13 May 2009 16:17:58 +0200 Received: from [147.214.183.61] ([147.214.183.61]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 13 May 2009 16:17:57 +0200 Message-ID: <4A0AD695.7090008@ericsson.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:17:57 +0200 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Pelletier References: <8021E22F-0ADE-4246-923A-62DC120A4EDB@isoc.org> <2244A357-7E73-4F15-B59F-9463D91CBFF3@isoc.org> In-Reply-To: <2244A357-7E73-4F15-B59F-9463D91CBFF3@isoc.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2009 14:17:58.0003 (UTC) FILETIME=[9D762430:01C9D3D5] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Call Poll X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:18:25 -0000 Ray Pelletier skrev: > All; > > Looks like the 29th at 11:00 almost works. > > Russ has a hard stop at 11:30 and asks whether 10:45 on the 29th will work. > > Yes or No? > Yes Magnus > Ray > On May 9, 2009, at 8:34 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> All; >> >> Let's see if we can arrive on a date and time using doodle. >> >> http://doodle.com/97eeyuxrkyfpk2ni >> >> Should have done that initially. >> >> Ray >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > -- Magnus Westerlund IETF Transport Area Director & TSVWG Chair ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From llynch@civil-tongue.net Wed May 13 07:19:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9193A6D7F for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:19:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EEmbPuuI4g7H for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (hiroshima.bogus.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DE13A6B7E for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4DELCwf095490; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:21:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llynch@civil-tongue.net) Received: from localhost (llynch@localhost) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4DELCY9095487; Wed, 13 May 2009 07:21:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llynch@civil-tongue.net) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:21:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Lucy Lynch X-X-Sender: llynch@hiroshima.bogus.com To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: <2244A357-7E73-4F15-B59F-9463D91CBFF3@isoc.org> Message-ID: References: <8021E22F-0ADE-4246-923A-62DC120A4EDB@isoc.org> <2244A357-7E73-4F15-B59F-9463D91CBFF3@isoc.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Call Poll X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:19:44 -0000 On Wed, 13 May 2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All; > > Looks like the 29th at 11:00 almost works. > > Russ has a hard stop at 11:30 and asks whether 10:45 on the 29th will work. > > Yes or No? Yes > Ray > On May 9, 2009, at 8:34 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> All; >> >> Let's see if we can arrive on a date and time using doodle. >> >> http://doodle.com/97eeyuxrkyfpk2ni >> >> Should have done that initially. >> >> Ray >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From lynch@isoc.org Thu May 7 06:27:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2F23A6AE8 for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:27:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sSCwDKecHCRL for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (hiroshima.bogus.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD81728C1CC for ; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hiroshima.bogus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n47DSs4M098887; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:28:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@isoc.org) Received: from localhost (llynch@localhost) by hiroshima.bogus.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n47DSsB0098884; Thu, 7 May 2009 06:28:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lynch@isoc.org) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 06:28:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lucy Lynch X-X-Sender: llynch@hiroshima.bogus.com To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 17 May 2009 08:27:06 -0700 Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Friday 8 May Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: lynch@isoc.org List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:27:37 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All; > > I will be on Holiday this Friday and propose postponing the call until Friday > 15 May at the same time unless there's an objection. works for me > Ray > > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From housley@vigilsec.com Fri May 29 07:12:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323ED3A6C75 for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:12:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.475 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.475 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.124, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HoQN9kdG+RTe for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A48C3A6C1E for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18735F2400A for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 10:12:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6gL2blA93leD for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 10:12:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from THINKPADR52.vigilsec.com (pool-96-255-70-130.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.70.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CCDF24009 for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 10:12:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:12:35 -0400 To: tools-development@ietf.org From: Russ Housley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20090529141238.74CCDF24009@odin.smetech.net> Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] When is the next tools call? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:12:10 -0000 I seem to have written it down in the wrong place. Can someone enlighten me? Russ From rpelletier@isoc.org Fri May 29 07:40:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83E53A6FC7 for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:40:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.205 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.205 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.206, BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jPjjLxRTd70K for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp174.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp174.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.174]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996CA3A6C51 for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6347F1DC0BE for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 10:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 2237E1DA20C; Fri, 29 May 2009 10:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1F10276C-353F-49B6-8DF3-0853A11E414B@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <20090529141238.74CCDF24009@odin.smetech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:41:16 -0400 References: <20090529141238.74CCDF24009@odin.smetech.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] When is the next tools call? 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On May 29, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > I seem to have written it down in the wrong place. Can someone > enlighten me? > > Russ > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri May 29 07:56:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57C23A6F87 for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:56:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.33 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.33 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XXOk-Z-QzM6r for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.180]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DF33A6D2C for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id D2DF037F75; Fri, 29 May 2009 16:56:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3D637E70 for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 16:56:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-232-110-214-no16.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.110.214]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3DF37E4D for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 16:56:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60168 helo=chardonnay.local) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MA3Tt-0004ve-Mg; Fri, 29 May 2009 16:54:49 +0200 Message-ID: <4A1FF793.1000102@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:56:19 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: tools-development@ietf.org References: <20090529141238.74CCDF24009@odin.smetech.net> <1F10276C-353F-49B6-8DF3-0853A11E414B@isoc.org> In-Reply-To: <1F10276C-353F-49B6-8DF3-0853A11E414B@isoc.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] When is the next tools call? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:56:46 -0000 http://shiraz.tools.ietf.org/tools/table From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri May 29 08:19:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5F63A6A8E for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 08:19:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.474 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.474 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.125, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id poSqnShQMk-C for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 08:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55D13A6951 for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 08:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 0BE4138143; Fri, 29 May 2009 16:18:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av10-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AE638143; Fri, 29 May 2009 16:18:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from shiraz.levkowetz.com (81-232-110-214-no16.tbcn.telia.com [81.232.110.214]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588D837E42; Fri, 29 May 2009 16:18:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50003 helo=chardonnay.local) by shiraz.levkowetz.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MA2tA-0002gt-HB; Fri, 29 May 2009 16:16:52 +0200 Message-ID: <4A1FEEAE.6070306@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:18:22 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Housley References: <20090529141238.74CCDF24009@odin.smetech.net> In-Reply-To: <20090529141238.74CCDF24009@odin.smetech.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: housley@vigilsec.com, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on shiraz.levkowetz.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] When is the next tools call? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:19:08 -0000 On 2009-05-29 16:12 Russ Housley said the following: > I seem to have written it down in the wrong place. Can someone enlighten me? I thought it was in 27 minutes from the bell ... Bong... Henrik