From rpelletier@isoc.org Tue Jun 9 13:22:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56CB28C1E9 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:22:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.288 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.288 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.311, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id euztFh5onwj4 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp144.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp144.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.144]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52FA28C202 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CAEAAC2EC for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 16:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id BC1FEC282 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 16:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2F330D78-8666-4AC2-A669-3D2DCB2AFE2B@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: tools-development@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 16:22:26 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Call Reminder: Friday 12 June X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:22:22 -0000 All; A reminder of Friday's call at 10:00 AM EDT on Marratech in the IETF Auditorium or on the bridge below. Agenda 1. IT Architect 2. IETF IT Infrastructure 3. .ORG is Signed 4. Vol Tools Table: Next steps 5. Postconfirm 6. Other. Agenda suggestions welcomed Ray Access Code: 3269881 Country Toll free number Toll number On-net* ARGENTINA (ARG) 08008007323 01151717323 AUSTRALIA (AUS) 1800359924 AUSTRIA (AUT) 0800291800 BAHAMAS (BHS) 18003890349 BELARUS (BLR) 882000110035 BELGIUM (BEL) 080039119 027924505 BOTSWANA (BWA) 002698003000557 BRAZIL (BRA) 08008873239 01149497323 BULGARIA (BGR) 008001151067 CANADA (CAN) 8005048071 6477233983 CHILE (CHL) 800532833 CHINA UNIFIED (CHINA TELECOM) 8008190328 4006208035 COLOMBIA (COL) 018009198715 COSTA RICA (CRI) 08000150522 CROATIA (HRV) 0800222927 CYPRUS (CYP) 80096147 CZECH REPUBLIC (CZE) 800142548 DENMARK (DNK) 80703116 36927814 DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (DOM) 18887514523 ECUADOR (ECU) 1800010184 ESTONIA (EST) 8000100225 FINLAND (FIN) 0800772087 0923193947 FRANCE (FRA) 0800941634 0174180779 GERMANY (DEU) 08001014529 089710404600 GREECE (GRC) 0080016122038715 HONG KONG (HKG) 30508639 HUNGARY (HUN) 0680015305 ICELAND (ISL) 8008086 INDIA (IND) 0008001006005 0008001005002 0008000012011 000182 INDONESIA (IDN) 0018030152030072 IRELAND (IRL) 1800719953 16530905 ISRAEL (ISR) 1809458715 ITALY (ITA) 800182599 200617507 JAPAN (JPN) 00531001557 KAZAKHSTAN (KAZ) 88003337317 KOREA, REPUBLIC OF (KOR) 00308140437 KYRGYZSTAN (KGZ) 0080070077706 LATVIA (LVA) 80000742 LUXEMBOURG (LUX) 80023947 MALAYSIA (MYS) 1800807136 MEXICO (MEX) 0018005148260 MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF (MDA) 080069001 MONACO (MCO) 80093340 NETHERLANDS (NLD) 08002658226 0207084835 NEW ZEALAND (NZL) 0800440066 NORWAY (NOR) 80056403 21033159 PANAMA (PAN) 008002269745 PERU (PER) 080070373 017057323 PHILIPPINES (PHL) 180011100764 POLAND (POL) 008001114567 PORTUGAL (PRT) 800780606 ROMANIA (ROM) 0800895088 RUSSIAN FEDERATION (RUS) 81080022641012 SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS (KNA) 18007449281 SINGAPORE (SGP) 8001011437 64944158 SLOVAKIA (SVK) 0800004237 SOUTH AFRICA (ZAF) 0800990941 SPAIN (ESP) 900800373 917911825 SWEDEN (SWE) 0201400591 0114966102 SWITZERLAND (CHE) 0800700285 0434569406 TAIWAN (TWN) 0809092289 TAJIKISTAN (TJK) 8108003337317 THAILAND (THA) 001800656917 UKRAINE (UKR) 88005042610 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES (ARE) 8000170894 UNITED KINGDOM (GBR) 08004960579 02079040084 UNITED STATES (USA) 8005048071 3032480281 URUGUAY (URY) 00040190114 UZBEKISTAN (UZB) 810800121006 VENEZUELA (VEN) 08001004179 *On-net numbers may not be available in all areas of the countries indicated. From housley@vigilsec.com Tue Jun 9 13:26:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547E33A6DA5 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.272 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.272 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.327, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vacy-9a2cDLO for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041863A69E5 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC7C9A476E; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 16:26:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dD8miHkmWjqu; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 16:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from THINKPADR52.vigilsec.com (unknown [129.6.248.189]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224929A4742; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 16:26:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:26:41 -0400 To: Ray Pelletier ,tools-development@ietf.org From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <2F330D78-8666-4AC2-A669-3D2DCB2AFE2B@isoc.org> References: <2F330D78-8666-4AC2-A669-3D2DCB2AFE2B@isoc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20090609202656.224929A4742@odin.smetech.net> Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Call Reminder: Friday 12 June X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:26:46 -0000 Regrets. At 04:22 PM 6/9/2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: >All; > >A reminder of Friday's call at 10:00 AM EDT on Marratech in the IETF >Auditorium or on the bridge below. > >Agenda > >1. IT Architect > >2. IETF IT Infrastructure > >3. .ORG is Signed > >4. Vol Tools Table: Next steps > >5. Postconfirm > >6. Other. > >Agenda suggestions welcomed > >Ray > >Access Code: 3269881 > >Country Toll free number Toll number On-net* >ARGENTINA (ARG) 08008007323 01151717323 >AUSTRALIA (AUS) 1800359924 >AUSTRIA (AUT) 0800291800 >BAHAMAS (BHS) 18003890349 >BELARUS (BLR) 882000110035 >BELGIUM (BEL) 080039119 027924505 >BOTSWANA (BWA) 002698003000557 >BRAZIL (BRA) 08008873239 01149497323 >BULGARIA (BGR) 008001151067 >CANADA (CAN) 8005048071 6477233983 >CHILE (CHL) 800532833 >CHINA UNIFIED (CHINA TELECOM) 8008190328 >4006208035 >COLOMBIA (COL) 018009198715 >COSTA RICA (CRI) 08000150522 >CROATIA (HRV) 0800222927 >CYPRUS (CYP) 80096147 >CZECH REPUBLIC (CZE) 800142548 >DENMARK (DNK) 80703116 36927814 >DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (DOM) 18887514523 >ECUADOR (ECU) 1800010184 >ESTONIA (EST) 8000100225 >FINLAND (FIN) 0800772087 0923193947 >FRANCE (FRA) 0800941634 0174180779 >GERMANY (DEU) 08001014529 089710404600 >GREECE (GRC) 0080016122038715 >HONG KONG (HKG) 30508639 >HUNGARY (HUN) 0680015305 >ICELAND (ISL) 8008086 >INDIA (IND) 0008001006005 >0008001005002 >0008000012011 >000182 >INDONESIA (IDN) 0018030152030072 >IRELAND (IRL) 1800719953 16530905 >ISRAEL (ISR) 1809458715 >ITALY (ITA) 800182599 200617507 >JAPAN (JPN) 00531001557 >KAZAKHSTAN (KAZ) 88003337317 >KOREA, REPUBLIC OF (KOR) 00308140437 >KYRGYZSTAN (KGZ) 0080070077706 >LATVIA (LVA) 80000742 >LUXEMBOURG (LUX) 80023947 >MALAYSIA (MYS) 1800807136 >MEXICO (MEX) 0018005148260 >MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF (MDA) 080069001 >MONACO (MCO) 80093340 >NETHERLANDS (NLD) 08002658226 0207084835 >NEW ZEALAND (NZL) 0800440066 >NORWAY (NOR) 80056403 21033159 >PANAMA (PAN) 008002269745 >PERU (PER) 080070373 017057323 >PHILIPPINES (PHL) 180011100764 >POLAND (POL) 008001114567 >PORTUGAL (PRT) 800780606 >ROMANIA (ROM) 0800895088 >RUSSIAN FEDERATION (RUS) 81080022641012 >SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS (KNA) 18007449281 >SINGAPORE (SGP) 8001011437 64944158 >SLOVAKIA (SVK) 0800004237 >SOUTH AFRICA (ZAF) 0800990941 >SPAIN (ESP) 900800373 917911825 >SWEDEN (SWE) 0201400591 0114966102 >SWITZERLAND (CHE) 0800700285 0434569406 >TAIWAN (TWN) 0809092289 >TAJIKISTAN (TJK) 8108003337317 >THAILAND (THA) 001800656917 >UKRAINE (UKR) 88005042610 >UNITED ARAB EMIRATES (ARE) 8000170894 >UNITED KINGDOM (GBR) 08004960579 02079040084 >UNITED STATES (USA) 8005048071 3032480281 >URUGUAY (URY) 00040190114 >UZBEKISTAN (UZB) 810800121006 >VENEZUELA (VEN) 08001004179 > >*On-net numbers may not be available in all areas of the countries >indicated. > >_______________________________________________ >TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From bob.hinden@gmail.com Thu Jun 11 13:01:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC6A3A67CC for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:01:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.827 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.827 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.228, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DeMLt-o4z8sa for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f204.google.com (mail-pz0-f204.google.com [209.85.222.204]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC3D3A6B2B for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pzk42 with SMTP id 42so711682pzk.29 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:01:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=sX90zQ6tq7mEe488odiD70s8D2bwUw50jDvTYOfcVu4=; b=Le9uixCxPGmdRZGYy3rRhLYZmkmnk9wWaJ3oB6O2dPzoyO5BoRlGP3VSmL6y0owGjp fSmznCQKZhTeLVYSoZoU6RxKcL7AWScxvoQbST5xKiCgEOJwEXy1GSmIzIIUyNT11MQ0 e9vVpsw6BdAp/5jR8w4ClNxUXdQ0F0AhJWWsg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=s3ot0L2kbhOd6bOIWTl7amc9dxMu2+LwbPfS9QaGuhDx+3VU8mLKwxkPmiChakOPz5 7VGgEtm/FnFv3k9oO1hpsHaEaFcca7joljGPHaKMqB0mUDlexcdB/qmJ9+bb8IyLa5GP RRnCswB4braNE39vXh+zDO/Wd4gjVtXQU+YoI= Received: by 10.142.90.5 with SMTP id n5mr1065001wfb.39.1244750503462; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?209.97.112.66? ([209.97.112.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm596765wfd.3.2009.06.11.13.01.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <76BF7D8A-E01A-4D94-A6CA-1176533CFE6F@gmail.com> From: Bob Hinden To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: <2F330D78-8666-4AC2-A669-3D2DCB2AFE2B@isoc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:01:42 -0700 References: <2F330D78-8666-4AC2-A669-3D2DCB2AFE2B@isoc.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Call Reminder: Friday 12 June X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:01:39 -0000 I won't be joining the call tomorrow. Bob On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All; > > A reminder of Friday's call at 10:00 AM EDT on Marratech in the IETF > Auditorium or on the bridge below. > > Agenda > > 1. IT Architect > > 2. IETF IT Infrastructure > > 3. .ORG is Signed > > 4. Vol Tools Table: Next steps > > 5. Postconfirm > > 6. Other. > > Agenda suggestions welcomed > > Ray > > Access Code: 3269881 > > Country Toll free number Toll number On-net* > ARGENTINA (ARG) 08008007323 01151717323 > AUSTRALIA (AUS) 1800359924 > AUSTRIA (AUT) 0800291800 > BAHAMAS (BHS) 18003890349 > BELARUS (BLR) 882000110035 > BELGIUM (BEL) 080039119 027924505 > BOTSWANA (BWA) 002698003000557 > BRAZIL (BRA) 08008873239 01149497323 > BULGARIA (BGR) 008001151067 > CANADA (CAN) 8005048071 6477233983 > CHILE (CHL) 800532833 > CHINA UNIFIED (CHINA TELECOM) 8008190328 > 4006208035 > COLOMBIA (COL) 018009198715 > COSTA RICA (CRI) 08000150522 > CROATIA (HRV) 0800222927 > CYPRUS (CYP) 80096147 > CZECH REPUBLIC (CZE) 800142548 > DENMARK (DNK) 80703116 36927814 > DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (DOM) 18887514523 > ECUADOR (ECU) 1800010184 > ESTONIA (EST) 8000100225 > FINLAND (FIN) 0800772087 0923193947 > FRANCE (FRA) 0800941634 0174180779 > GERMANY (DEU) 08001014529 089710404600 > GREECE (GRC) 0080016122038715 > HONG KONG (HKG) 30508639 > HUNGARY (HUN) 0680015305 > ICELAND (ISL) 8008086 > INDIA (IND) 0008001006005 > 0008001005002 > 0008000012011 > 000182 > INDONESIA (IDN) 0018030152030072 > IRELAND (IRL) 1800719953 16530905 > ISRAEL (ISR) 1809458715 > ITALY (ITA) 800182599 200617507 > JAPAN (JPN) 00531001557 > KAZAKHSTAN (KAZ) 88003337317 > KOREA, REPUBLIC OF (KOR) 00308140437 > KYRGYZSTAN (KGZ) 0080070077706 > LATVIA (LVA) 80000742 > LUXEMBOURG (LUX) 80023947 > MALAYSIA (MYS) 1800807136 > MEXICO (MEX) 0018005148260 > MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF (MDA) 080069001 > MONACO (MCO) 80093340 > NETHERLANDS (NLD) 08002658226 0207084835 > NEW ZEALAND (NZL) 0800440066 > NORWAY (NOR) 80056403 21033159 > PANAMA (PAN) 008002269745 > PERU (PER) 080070373 017057323 > PHILIPPINES (PHL) 180011100764 > POLAND (POL) 008001114567 > PORTUGAL (PRT) 800780606 > ROMANIA (ROM) 0800895088 > RUSSIAN FEDERATION (RUS) 81080022641012 > SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS (KNA) 18007449281 > SINGAPORE (SGP) 8001011437 64944158 > SLOVAKIA (SVK) 0800004237 > SOUTH AFRICA (ZAF) 0800990941 > SPAIN (ESP) 900800373 917911825 > SWEDEN (SWE) 0201400591 0114966102 > SWITZERLAND (CHE) 0800700285 0434569406 > TAIWAN (TWN) 0809092289 > TAJIKISTAN (TJK) 8108003337317 > THAILAND (THA) 001800656917 > UKRAINE (UKR) 88005042610 > UNITED ARAB EMIRATES (ARE) 8000170894 > UNITED KINGDOM (GBR) 08004960579 02079040084 > UNITED STATES (USA) 8005048071 3032480281 > URUGUAY (URY) 00040190114 > UZBEKISTAN (UZB) 810800121006 > VENEZUELA (VEN) 08001004179 > > *On-net numbers may not be available in all areas of the countries > indicated. > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From glen@amsl.com Mon Jun 15 10:04:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1273A67E2 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:04:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.151 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.151 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MSGID_MULTIPLE_AT=1.449, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2Oy+gVw7+g0Z for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF3E3A6784 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by core2.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D6F7224281; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:04:45 -0700 From: Glen To: tools-development@ietf.org Message-ID: <20090615170445.GA23866@glen@amsl.com> References: <9B22760D-852C-4B04-ADB5-44E0121B86BF@nokia.com> <4A2D63DD.3050503@amsl.com> <20090615152602.GA11701@glen@amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090615152602.GA11701@glen@amsl.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com, mbeaulieu@amsl.com, lars.eggert@nokia.com Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Looking for a missing table in the datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:04:45 -0000 On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 02:04:54PM +0300, Lars Eggert wrote: > I know that when I clicked the "View Meeting Materials Page" link at the > bottom of https://datatracker.ietf.org/cgi-bin/wg/wg_proceedings.cgi it > took me to a page that had a big table with all the WGs listed by area, and > it showed whether they had requested a slot, uploaded slides and uploaded > minutes. > I note that that link > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=75) > is now redirected to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/75/materials.html > - maybe the *redirect* was changed? Dear Tools Team - I have a problem I'm trying to chase down that seems to be leading me in the direction of the datatracker. Lars is looking for a grid showing WGs listed by area, as he mentions above. I am not familiar with this grid at all, so I am basically gather rumors from many sources and compiling them here, in the hope that this rings a bell for someone. I believe that, in the past, we had a page, and that someone asked me to redirect a static page to the datatracker. (I am searching old email for details of this, but that's a long search!). The short version is that: 1. There used to be a page that displayed the big slot-request table. 2. The script/page we think was related to this, along with possibly other pages, was redirected at the request of the tools team to: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/75/materials.html (URL adjusted per meeting, of course) 3. That page is apparently supposed to display the big-slot request table, but it appears to not be doing so. Marcia just did a test in which she tried to set up the agenda so it would display correctly; however, the agenda did not display at all when she ran this test. She commented that she thought that the redirect went a step further - to the Tools servers, which themselves were now displaying the agenda, rather than the datatracker. Since Henrik is out of town, and we have to have the agenda up before his return, my only choice appears to be massive surgery. Before I undertake this, I thought I would check to see if anyone here could shed any light on the functionality Lars is referring to, where it might be now, and how it might be repaired. Needless to say, the display of the meeting agenda is clearly a "critical" tool - so if it exists elsewhere I need to move it and/or get it working right now. Any help, insight, pointers, reminders, or other information would be most appreciated. Thanks! Glen From fenner@fenron.com Mon Jun 15 12:52:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E313A6C74 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:52:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.288 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.288 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.311, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jDsbR0A0gEb8 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63BF3A6C5D for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so2649856qwe.31 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:52:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.46.15 with SMTP id h15mr5232395vcf.107.1245095575016; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:52:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <-8418575434050514109@unknownmsgid> References: <9B22760D-852C-4B04-ADB5-44E0121B86BF@nokia.com> <4A2D63DD.3050503@amsl.com> <-8418575434050514109@unknownmsgid> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:52:54 -0400 Message-ID: <54e226890906151252q242f0d9fx6be7570c40ea1a37@mail.gmail.com> From: Bill Fenner To: Glen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com, tools-development@ietf.org, lars.eggert@nokia.com, mbeaulieu@amsl.com Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Looking for a missing table in the datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:52:52 -0000 On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Glen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 02:04:54PM +0300, Lars Eggert wrote: >> I know that when I clicked the "View Meeting Materials Page" link at the >> bottom of https://datatracker.ietf.org/cgi-bin/wg/wg_proceedings.cgi it >> took me to a page that had a big table with all the WGs listed by area, = and >> it showed whether they had requested a slot, uploaded slides and uploade= d >> minutes. >> I note that that link >> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num= =3D75) >> is now redirected to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/75/materials.h= tml >> - maybe the *redirect* was changed? > > Dear Tools Team - > > I have a problem I'm trying to chase down that seems to be leading me in = the > direction of the datatracker. =A0Lars is looking for a grid showing WGs l= isted > by area, as he mentions above. =A0I am not familiar with this grid at all= , so > I am basically gather rumors from many sources and compiling them here, i= n > the hope that this rings a bell for someone. > > I believe that, in the past, we had a page, and that someone asked me > to redirect a static page to the datatracker. =A0(I am searching old emai= l > for details of this, but that's a long search!). As far as I know, redirecting public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=3D75 to /meeting/75/materials.html was one of the initial rewrites that we did in first deploying the django-based tools. > The short version is that: > > 1. There used to be a page that displayed the big slot-request table. In 2007? > 2. The script/page we think was related to this, along with possibly othe= r > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0pages, was redirected at the request of the tools team to: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/75/materials.html (UR= L > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0adjusted per meeting, of course) As part of the deployment of the django-based tools? > 3. That page is apparently supposed to display the big-slot request table= , > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0but it appears to not be doing so. That page uses the wg_meeting_sessions table to decide what to display; all the existing rows for IETF75 have status_id=3D1 and the page only wants to display rows with status_id=3D4. > Marcia just did a test in which she tried to set up the agenda so it woul= d > display correctly; however, the agenda did not display at all when she ra= n > this test. =A0She commented that she thought that the redirect went a ste= p > further - to the Tools servers, which themselves were now displaying the > agenda, rather than the datatracker. I'm not sure what you're actually saying here. > Since Henrik is out of town, and we have to have the agenda up before his > return, my only choice appears to be massive surgery. =A0Before I underta= ke > this, I thought I would check to see if anyone here could shed any light > on the functionality Lars is referring to, where it might be now, and how > it might be repaired. Henrik rewrote the agenda code in March for the SF IETF. It hasn't changed since that. Nothing has changed about the meeting_materials code (the one that Lars is pointing to) in the last 2 years. > Needless to say, the display of the meeting agenda is clearly a "critical= " > tool - so if it exists elsewhere I need to move it and/or get it working > right now. > > Any help, insight, pointers, reminders, or other information would be mos= t > appreciated. I'd be happy to try to help but I don't have any visibility into the tools that you're using to "make the agenda work". Bill From glen@amsl.com Mon Jun 15 13:07:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA48F3A6D19 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:07:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -98.38 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.38 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.115, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pyTtmfLjpQuL for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BF63A6923 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core2.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444C724297; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:07:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.amsl.com ([64.170.98.20]) by localhost (core2.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PrUlsDHGrzzM; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.110] (173-8-133-94-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.133.94]) by core2.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C0B24292; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A36AA0A.2050402@amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:07:38 -0700 From: Glen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Fenner References: <9B22760D-852C-4B04-ADB5-44E0121B86BF@nokia.com> <4A2D63DD.3050503@amsl.com> <-8418575434050514109@unknownmsgid> <54e226890906151252q242f0d9fx6be7570c40ea1a37@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54e226890906151252q242f0d9fx6be7570c40ea1a37@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com, tools-development@ietf.org, lars.eggert@nokia.com, mbeaulieu@amsl.com Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Looking for a missing table in the datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:07:25 -0000 Comments inline, two questions at the end. Bill Fenner wrote: >> 1. There used to be a page that displayed the big slot-request table. > In 2007? Having never seen this myself, I do not know the answer to that. This request came from Lars, who said that the functionality used to be there, but no longer is, and asked for it to be restored. I see no record that we (the secretariat) have removed anything; I can only assume that the code to display the grid he is searching for should be in the datatracker. >> 2. The script/page we think was related to this, along with possibly other >> pages, was redirected at the request of the tools team to: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/75/materials.html (URL >> adjusted per meeting, of course) > As part of the deployment of the django-based tools? Possibly. I had thought I had remembered something more recently, but what I remembered turned out to be a request from Pasi pertaining to the TELECHAT agenda (not the meeting agenda.) So this may be wrong. >> 3. That page is apparently supposed to display the big-slot request table, >> but it appears to not be doing so. > That page uses the wg_meeting_sessions table to decide what to > display; all the existing rows for IETF75 have status_id=1 and the > page only wants to display rows with status_id=4. Can you educate me as to the meanings of the various status codes? >> Marcia just did a test in which she tried to set up the agenda so it would >> display correctly; however, the agenda did not display at all when she ran >> this test. She commented that she thought that the redirect went a step >> further - to the Tools servers, which themselves were now displaying the >> agenda, rather than the datatracker. > I'm not sure what you're actually saying here. What I mean by this is that the secretariat is telling me that they believe the grid Lars is looking for will not appear until the secretariat actually starts scheduling sessions - which they have not done. Marcia went in and tried to "start scheduling sessions" - that is, she went in and did whatever she does to try to start the scheduling process, under the assumption that her actions would cause the grid to display. It turned out that her actions had no effect on the datatracker output. This is just a datapoint, not a complaint, at this stage. > Henrik rewrote the agenda code in March for the SF IETF. It hasn't > changed since that. Nothing has changed about the meeting_materials > code (the one that Lars is pointing to) in the last 2 years. Okay. > I'd be happy to try to help but I don't have any visibility into the > tools that you're using to "make the agenda work". I wouldn't expect you to tear apart the secretariat tools as those are clearly not your problem (or fault! ;-) ) but those tools have not been changed since we took over... so roughly "the last 2 years" either. I guess my questions, then are two: 1. Lars - when was the last time you saw this grid? 2. Bill, and others - does such a grid as the one Lars describes in his email actually exist in the datatracker; and, if so, where is it? If we could get answers to these two questions, that should help unravel this mystery. Thanks, Glen From fenner@fenron.com Mon Jun 15 13:14:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAF328C0FD for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:14:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.236 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.236 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.260, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HXvJhdokaciP for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE0328C0DE for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so2659577qwe.31 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:14:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.86.149 with SMTP id s21mr5334517vcl.79.1245096848157; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:14:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A36AA0A.2050402@amsl.com> References: <9B22760D-852C-4B04-ADB5-44E0121B86BF@nokia.com> <4A2D63DD.3050503@amsl.com> <-8418575434050514109@unknownmsgid> <54e226890906151252q242f0d9fx6be7570c40ea1a37@mail.gmail.com> <4A36AA0A.2050402@amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:14:08 -0400 Message-ID: <54e226890906151314n45c05e62t4bb4c5b2a00c7e6e@mail.gmail.com> From: Bill Fenner To: Glen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com, tools-development@ietf.org, lars.eggert@nokia.com, mbeaulieu@amsl.com Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Looking for a missing table in the datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:14:01 -0000 On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Glen wrote: > 2. Bill, and others - does such a grid as the one Lars describes in his > email actually exist in the datatracker; and, if so, where is it? It exists, and is where Lars thinks it is. I modified the code to not say "that meeting has past" and the 74 version is http://runaway.fenron.com:2468/meeting/74/materials.html Bill From glen@amsl.com Mon Jun 15 13:17:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E973A6D17 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:17:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -98.732 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.732 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.762, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cE6PjhLQ2jVQ for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::14]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD143A68AA for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core2.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8368924299; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:17:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.amsl.com ([64.170.98.20]) by localhost (core2.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KBebu4r7rm3G; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.110] (173-8-133-94-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.133.94]) by core2.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D845D24292; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A36AC76.4080203@amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:17:58 -0700 From: Glen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Fenner References: <9B22760D-852C-4B04-ADB5-44E0121B86BF@nokia.com> <4A2D63DD.3050503@amsl.com> <-8418575434050514109@unknownmsgid> <54e226890906151252q242f0d9fx6be7570c40ea1a37@mail.gmail.com> <4A36AA0A.2050402@amsl.com> <54e226890906151314n45c05e62t4bb4c5b2a00c7e6e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54e226890906151314n45c05e62t4bb4c5b2a00c7e6e@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com, tools-development@ietf.org, lars.eggert@nokia.com, mbeaulieu@amsl.com Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Looking for a missing table in the datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:17:46 -0000 Bill - Thank you for this. Okay - just to confirm - Lars, is this what you were referring to? If not, we need more info. If it IS what you were referring to, then at this stage I have no reason to believe anything is broken; rather, I think we need to just wait until the secretariat actually starts scheduling sessions in the system for real - which, as I said, happens starting the 22nd. Then if it's still not working, we'll figure out why and debug and correct it. Thank you all for your support and help with this! Glen Bill Fenner wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Glen wrote: >> 2. Bill, and others - does such a grid as the one Lars describes in his >> email actually exist in the datatracker; and, if so, where is it? > > It exists, and is where Lars thinks it is. I modified the code to not > say "that meeting has past" and the 74 version is > http://runaway.fenron.com:2468/meeting/74/materials.html > > Bill > From lars.eggert@nokia.com Mon Jun 15 13:30:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB5F3A67ED for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.491 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.491 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.108, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t5VvbSfPE+Fp for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.fit.nokia.com (mail.fit.nokia.com [195.148.124.195]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12853A6CFF for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.5] (cs95024.pp.htv.fi [212.90.95.24]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.fit.nokia.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5FKULJu009713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:30:21 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from lars.eggert@nokia.com) Message-Id: From: Lars Eggert To: Glen In-Reply-To: <4A36AC76.4080203@amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-502574255; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:29:06 +0300 References: <9B22760D-852C-4B04-ADB5-44E0121B86BF@nokia.com> <4A2D63DD.3050503@amsl.com> <-8418575434050514109@unknownmsgid> <54e226890906151252q242f0d9fx6be7570c40ea1a37@mail.gmail.com> <4A36AA0A.2050402@amsl.com> <54e226890906151314n45c05e62t4bb4c5b2a00c7e6e@mail.gmail.com> <4A36AC76.4080203@amsl.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (mail.fit.nokia.com [195.148.124.194]); Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:30:22 +0300 (EEST) Cc: Bill Fenner , "Eronen Pasi \(Nokia-NRC/Helsinki\)" , "tools-development@ietf.org" , "mbeaulieu@amsl.com" Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Looking for a missing table in the datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:30:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail-3-502574255 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2009-6-15, at 23:17, Glen wrote: > Lars, is this what you were referring to? 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Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A36B30D.9030708@amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:46:05 -0700 From: Glen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eggert References: <9B22760D-852C-4B04-ADB5-44E0121B86BF@nokia.com> <4A2D63DD.3050503@amsl.com> <-8418575434050514109@unknownmsgid> <54e226890906151252q242f0d9fx6be7570c40ea1a37@mail.gmail.com> <4A36AA0A.2050402@amsl.com> <54e226890906151314n45c05e62t4bb4c5b2a00c7e6e@mail.gmail.com> <4A36AC76.4080203@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bill Fenner , "Eronen Pasi \(Nokia-NRC/Helsinki\)" , "tools-development@ietf.org" , "mbeaulieu@amsl.com" Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Looking for a missing table in the datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:45:52 -0000 Okay, I've since been informed by Marcia that she did some additional work, and scheduled the APPAREA group, and that they are now in fact showing up at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/75/materials.html where it is supposed to. So it seems that everything works as intended, and that it's just a matter of the schedule doesn't show up until the secretariat starts adding the schedule data into the system. Thank you all for your assistance in sorting this out! Glen Lars Eggert wrote: > On 2009-6-15, at 23:17, Glen wrote: >> Lars, is this what you were referring to? > > Yes From fluffy@cisco.com Thu Jun 18 11:36:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE3528C3A1 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:36:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RoZkDgXci5qs for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EA43A6B42 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:36:37 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,246,1243814400"; d="scan'208";a="326787506" Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Jun 2009 18:36:50 +0000 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n5IIaoEN002886; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:36:50 -0700 Received: from dhcp-171-68-21-22.cisco.com (dhcp-171-68-21-22.cisco.com [171.68.21.22]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5IIangV018837; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:36:49 GMT Message-Id: <1A491383-B2AD-417C-B1C1-3A9AE51948E2@cisco.com> From: Cullen Jennings To: Pasi Eronen , tools-development@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:36:51 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=4301; t=1245350210; x=1246214210; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=fluffy@cisco.com; z=From:=20Cullen=20Jennings=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20Mail=20delivery=20failed=3A=20returning =20message=20to=20sender |Sender:=20; bh=k1ywnr+UF20zOxHMPmqMwNw74zeZi54OoJSKCxdYxCk=; b=sKtPad0l/LgZxV3KdpsJJW/5FZpv3juxgpjCRxVDHlEPtf+E565CH8tkyX d8ipKwrmon7YdiXTFbh5YAXJMejD8UPxuwjYgwZwSg2fn4S27k7BUr7VjiZ4 jum0kHXKUy; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=fluffy@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); Cc: Robert Sparks , Hadriel Kaplan , Robert Sparks Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:36:38 -0000 Folks, any idea what is going on here .... On Jun 17, 2009, at 17:26 , Hadriel Kaplan wrote: > > Ummm... ya might want to look into this... looks like rai-ads@tools.ietf.org > is bouncing your emails Robert. :( > > -hadriel > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mail Delivery System [mailto:Mailer-Daemon@merlot.tools.ietf.org >> ] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:24 PM >> To: Hadriel Kaplan >> Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender >> >> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. >> >> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its >> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) >> failed: >> >> rjsparks@nostrum.com >> (generated from rai-ads@tools.ietf.org) >> SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL >> FROM: SIZE=3840: >> host shaman.nostrum.com [72.232.15.10]: 550 5.7.1 >> ... Please see >> http://spf.pobox.com/why.html?sender=hkaplan@acmepacket.com&ip=194.146.105 >> .14&receiver=nostrum.com >> >> ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. >> ------ >> >> Return-path: >> Received: from etmail.acmepacket.com ([216.41.24.6]:55556) >> by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) >> (Exim 4.69) >> (envelope-from ) >> id 1MH5Pw-0005yE-SW >> for rai-ads@tools.ietf.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:23:49 +0200 >> Received: from mail.acmepacket.com (216.41.24.7) by >> etmail.acmepacket.com >> (216.41.24.6) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.340.0; Wed, >> 17 Jun >> 2009 >> 20:23:33 -0400 >> Received: from mail.acmepacket.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail >> ([127.0.0.1]) >> with >> mapi; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:23:33 -0400 >> From: Hadriel Kaplan >> To: "James M. Polk" , Mary Barnes >> , >> "dispatch@ietf.org" >> CC: "rai-ads@tools.ietf.org" >> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:23:21 -0400 >> Thread-Topic: [dispatch] IETF-75 plans for DISPATCH >> Thread-Index: AcnvqJ06EX1eG6D5SfinSq1O6e9vFAAAEuFQ >> Message-ID: >> References: >> <1ECE0EB50388174790F9694F77522CCF1E590C4B@zrc2hxm0.corp.nortel.com> >> <1ECE0EB50388174790F9694F77522CCF1E922A01@zrc2hxm0.corp.nortel.com> >> >> In-Reply-To: >> Accept-Language: en-US >> Content-Language: en-US >> X-MS-Has-Attach: >> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: >> acceptlanguage: en-US >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 216.41.24.6 >> X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rai-ads@tools.ietf.org >> X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: HKaplan@acmepacket.com >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on >> merlot.tools.ietf.org >> X-Spam-Level: >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_PASS >> autolearn=no version=3.2.5 >> Subject: RE: [dispatch] IETF-75 plans for DISPATCH >> X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:14:11 +0000) >> X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] >>> On >>> Behalf Of James M. Polk >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:06 PM >>> =20 >>> At 06:39 PM 6/17/2009, Mary Barnes wrote: >>>> The additional topic on Session Recording was put forth after >>>> June 8th >>>> and has not yet been considered in the IETF-75 plans. However, if >> there >>>> is enough interest in the topic and folks committed to the work, >>>> then >> we >>>> may be able to allocate agenda time. >>> =20 >>> I'm rather stunned that demonstrated interest isn't being considered >>> sufficiently clear on this topic to the WG chairs or ADs. >> >> +1. And considering the topic was put forth 10hrs and 1 minute >> after the >> d= >> eadline, it's not like the fewer 10 hours (and 1 minute) left people >> withou= >> t time to think about it. :) >> >> -hadriel From Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com Thu Jun 18 11:54:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7F93A69D1 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:54:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.513 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.513 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.086, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qIXutCL4g99T for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-mx03.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.122.230]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DDF28C327 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh105.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.211]) by mgw-mx03.nokia.com (Switch-3.3.3/Switch-3.3.3) with ESMTP id n5IIrFLL022774; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:53:17 +0300 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:52:21 +0300 Received: from vaebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.160.244.22]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:52:21 +0300 Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.7]) by vaebh101.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:52:16 +0300 Received: from NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.86]) by nok-am1mhub-03.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.7]) with mapi; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:52:15 +0200 From: To: , Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:52:13 +0200 Thread-Topic: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Thread-Index: AcnwQ8JKkqBLK8MYQ9qbTHXZhtZyMgAAFw2w Message-ID: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB773A6B137972@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> References: <1A491383-B2AD-417C-B1C1-3A9AE51948E2@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <1A491383-B2AD-417C-B1C1-3A9AE51948E2@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2009 18:52:16.0380 (UTC) FILETIME=[E64A2BC0:01C9F045] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Cc: rjsparks@estacado.net, HKaplan@acmepacket.com, rjsparks@nostrum.com Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:54:36 -0000 It looks like nostrum.com email filters are using SPF (RFC 4408), and acmepacket.com has published SPF "v=3Dspf1 mx ip4:216.41.24.7 -all". As described in RFC 4408 Section 9.3, SPF doesn't really work with=20 forwarding services (like rai-ads@tools.ietf.org) that keep the same MAIL FROM address.=20 Section 9.3 also describes some ways to solve this; the simplest here would probably be to configure nostrum.com's servers to skip the SPF check for *.tools.ietf.org...=20 Best regards, Pasi > -----Original Message----- > From: ext Cullen Jennings [mailto:fluffy@cisco.com] > Sent: 18 June, 2009 21:37 > To: Eronen Pasi (Nokia-NRC/Helsinki); tools-development@ietf.org > Cc: Hadriel Kaplan; Robert Sparks; Robert Sparks > Subject: Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender >=20 >=20 > Folks, any idea what is going on here .... >=20 > On Jun 17, 2009, at 17:26 , Hadriel Kaplan wrote: >=20 > > > > Ummm... ya might want to look into this... looks like rai- > > ads@tools.ietf.org > > is bouncing your emails Robert. :( > > > > -hadriel > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Mail Delivery System [mailto:Mailer- > Daemon@merlot.tools.ietf.org > >> ] > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:24 PM > >> To: Hadriel Kaplan > >> Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender > >> > >> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > >> > >> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > >> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) > >> failed: > >> > >> rjsparks@nostrum.com > >> (generated from rai-ads@tools.ietf.org) > >> SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL > >> FROM: SIZE=3D3840: > >> host shaman.nostrum.com [72.232.15.10]: 550 5.7.1 > >> ... Please see > >> > http://spf.pobox.com/why.html?sender=3Dhkaplan@acmepacket.com&ip=3D194.14= 6. > 105 > >> .14&receiver=3Dnostrum.com > >> > >> ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. > >> ------ > >> > >> Return-path: > >> Received: from etmail.acmepacket.com ([216.41.24.6]:55556) > >> by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) > >> (Exim 4.69) > >> (envelope-from ) > >> id 1MH5Pw-0005yE-SW > >> for rai-ads@tools.ietf.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:23:49 +0200 > >> Received: from mail.acmepacket.com (216.41.24.7) by > >> etmail.acmepacket.com > >> (216.41.24.6) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.340.0; Wed, > >> 17 Jun > >> 2009 > >> 20:23:33 -0400 > >> Received: from mail.acmepacket.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail > >> ([127.0.0.1]) > >> with > >> mapi; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:23:33 -0400 > >> From: Hadriel Kaplan > >> To: "James M. Polk" , Mary Barnes > >> , > >> "dispatch@ietf.org" > >> CC: "rai-ads@tools.ietf.org" > >> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:23:21 -0400 > >> Thread-Topic: [dispatch] IETF-75 plans for DISPATCH > >> Thread-Index: AcnvqJ06EX1eG6D5SfinSq1O6e9vFAAAEuFQ > >> Message-ID: > >> References: > >> <1ECE0EB50388174790F9694F77522CCF1E590C4B@zrc2hxm0.corp.nortel.com> > >> > <1ECE0EB50388174790F9694F77522CCF1E922A01@zrc2hxm0.corp.nortel.co > m> > >> > >> In-Reply-To: 212.amer.cisco.com> > >> Accept-Language: en-US > >> Content-Language: en-US > >> X-MS-Has-Attach: > >> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: > >> acceptlanguage: en-US > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >> MIME-Version: 1.0 > >> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 216.41.24.6 > >> X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rai-ads@tools.ietf.org > >> X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: HKaplan@acmepacket.com > >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on > >> merlot.tools.ietf.org > >> X-Spam-Level: > >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=3D-2.6 required=3D3.0 tests=3DBAYES_00,SPF_PA= SS > >> autolearn=3Dno version=3D3.2.5 > >> Subject: RE: [dispatch] IETF-75 plans for DISPATCH > >> X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:14:11 +0000) > >> X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] > >>> On > >>> Behalf Of James M. Polk > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:06 PM > >>> =3D20 > >>> At 06:39 PM 6/17/2009, Mary Barnes wrote: > >>>> The additional topic on Session Recording was put forth after > >>>> June 8th > >>>> and has not yet been considered in the IETF-75 plans. However, if > >> there > >>>> is enough interest in the topic and folks committed to the work, > >>>> then > >> we > >>>> may be able to allocate agenda time. > >>> =3D20 > >>> I'm rather stunned that demonstrated interest isn't being > considered > >>> sufficiently clear on this topic to the WG chairs or ADs. > >> > >> +1. And considering the topic was put forth 10hrs and 1 minute > >> after the > >> d=3D > >> eadline, it's not like the fewer 10 hours (and 1 minute) left people > >> withou=3D > >> t time to think about it. :) > >> > >> -hadriel From rjsparks@estacado.net Thu Jun 18 12:24:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5071D3A69D8 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:24:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ipIdcQD46Tkg for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:24:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from estacado.net (estacado-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:266::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B186B3A6959 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dn3-232.estacado.net (dn3-232.estacado.net [172.16.3.232]) (authenticated bits=0) by estacado.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n5IJOaos035240 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:24:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@estacado.net) Message-Id: From: Robert Sparks To: "" In-Reply-To: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB773A6B137972@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:24:36 -0500 References: <1A491383-B2AD-417C-B1C1-3A9AE51948E2@cisco.com> <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB773A6B137972@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:36:51 -0700 Cc: tools-development@ietf.org, HKaplan@acmepacket.com Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:24:31 -0000 Yeah, that whitelist went in when we first got Hadriel's note. But that only fixes one place where there might be trouble. We're also looking into ways to tweak the forwarding service such that other folks aren't bitten. RjS On Jun 18, 2009, at 1:52 PM, wrote: > It looks like nostrum.com email filters are using SPF (RFC 4408), > and acmepacket.com has published SPF "v=spf1 mx ip4:216.41.24.7 -all". > > As described in RFC 4408 Section 9.3, SPF doesn't really work with > forwarding services (like rai-ads@tools.ietf.org) that keep the > same MAIL FROM address. > > Section 9.3 also describes some ways to solve this; the simplest > here would probably be to configure nostrum.com's servers to skip > the SPF check for *.tools.ietf.org... > > Best regards, > Pasi > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ext Cullen Jennings [mailto:fluffy@cisco.com] >> Sent: 18 June, 2009 21:37 >> To: Eronen Pasi (Nokia-NRC/Helsinki); tools-development@ietf.org >> Cc: Hadriel Kaplan; Robert Sparks; Robert Sparks >> Subject: Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender >> >> >> Folks, any idea what is going on here .... >> >> On Jun 17, 2009, at 17:26 , Hadriel Kaplan wrote: >> >>> >>> Ummm... ya might want to look into this... looks like rai- >>> ads@tools.ietf.org >>> is bouncing your emails Robert. :( >>> >>> -hadriel >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Mail Delivery System [mailto:Mailer- >> Daemon@merlot.tools.ietf.org >>>> ] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:24 PM >>>> To: Hadriel Kaplan >>>> Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender >>>> >>>> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. >>>> >>>> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of >>>> its >>>> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) >>>> failed: >>>> >>>> rjsparks@nostrum.com >>>> (generated from rai-ads@tools.ietf.org) >>>> SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL >>>> FROM: SIZE=3840: >>>> host shaman.nostrum.com [72.232.15.10]: 550 5.7.1 >>>> ... Please see >>>> >> http://spf.pobox.com/why.html?sender=hkaplan@acmepacket.com&ip=194.146 >> . >> 105 >>>> .14&receiver=nostrum.com >>>> >>>> ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. >>>> ------ >>>> >>>> Return-path: >>>> Received: from etmail.acmepacket.com ([216.41.24.6]:55556) >>>> by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) >>>> (Exim 4.69) >>>> (envelope-from ) >>>> id 1MH5Pw-0005yE-SW >>>> for rai-ads@tools.ietf.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:23:49 +0200 >>>> Received: from mail.acmepacket.com (216.41.24.7) by >>>> etmail.acmepacket.com >>>> (216.41.24.6) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.340.0; Wed, >>>> 17 Jun >>>> 2009 >>>> 20:23:33 -0400 >>>> Received: from mail.acmepacket.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail >>>> ([127.0.0.1]) >>>> with >>>> mapi; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:23:33 -0400 >>>> From: Hadriel Kaplan >>>> To: "James M. Polk" , Mary Barnes >>>> , >>>> "dispatch@ietf.org" >>>> CC: "rai-ads@tools.ietf.org" >>>> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:23:21 -0400 >>>> Thread-Topic: [dispatch] IETF-75 plans for DISPATCH >>>> Thread-Index: AcnvqJ06EX1eG6D5SfinSq1O6e9vFAAAEuFQ >>>> Message-ID: >>>> References: >>>> <1ECE0EB50388174790F9694F77522CCF1E590C4B@zrc2hxm0.corp.nortel.com> >>>> >> <1ECE0EB50388174790F9694F77522CCF1E922A01@zrc2hxm0.corp.nortel.co >> m> >>>> >>>> In-Reply-To: > 212.amer.cisco.com> >>>> Accept-Language: en-US >>>> Content-Language: en-US >>>> X-MS-Has-Attach: >>>> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: >>>> acceptlanguage: en-US >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 216.41.24.6 >>>> X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rai-ads@tools.ietf.org >>>> X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: HKaplan@acmepacket.com >>>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on >>>> merlot.tools.ietf.org >>>> X-Spam-Level: >>>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_PASS >>>> autolearn=no version=3.2.5 >>>> Subject: RE: [dispatch] IETF-75 plans for DISPATCH >>>> X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:14:11 +0000) >>>> X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of James M. Polk >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:06 PM >>>>> =20 >>>>> At 06:39 PM 6/17/2009, Mary Barnes wrote: >>>>>> The additional topic on Session Recording was put forth after >>>>>> June 8th >>>>>> and has not yet been considered in the IETF-75 plans. However, >>>>>> if >>>> there >>>>>> is enough interest in the topic and folks committed to the work, >>>>>> then >>>> we >>>>>> may be able to allocate agenda time. >>>>> =20 >>>>> I'm rather stunned that demonstrated interest isn't being >> considered >>>>> sufficiently clear on this topic to the WG chairs or ADs. >>>> >>>> +1. And considering the topic was put forth 10hrs and 1 minute >>>> after the >>>> d= >>>> eadline, it's not like the fewer 10 hours (and 1 minute) left >>>> people >>>> withou= >>>> t time to think about it. :) >>>> >>>> -hadriel >