From rpelletier@isoc.org Mon Nov 2 09:10:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4AF3A6A1B for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:10:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.254 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.254 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.070, BAYES_40=-0.185, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m00igRu1D20U for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5173A68E7 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 86AE71E6162 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:10:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 6B7681CCA41 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:10:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <0DB1B73B-A620-4B56-9853-5C40F62B6705@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: tools-development@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-113--298215356 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:10:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Python IDIQ RFP Announcement X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:10:42 -0000 --Apple-Mail-113--298215356 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Internet Society and the IETF Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) are seeking one or more vendors to provide Python development services using the Django framework. Proposals from any commercial or non-commercial vendor are welcome. The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) standards development work is supported by an IT infrastructure using MySQL database and tools developed in Python. Some earlier tools developed using Perl are being phased out. The IETF is undertaking the Life Cycle Datatracker Project and desires to enhance the current tool infrastructure with Python using the Django framework and to extend the current architecture to support authors, working group chairs, the RFC Editor, the IANA administrators, and others. The Internet Society (ISOC) desires to enter into an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) Master Services Agreement (MSA) with one or more software development companies with which to accomplish its objectives. The MSA is an Indefinite Delivery/ Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contract as it cannot be determined at this time the nature and number of applications that will be necessary to complete the project. The MSA shall be for a three-year period with an option for two, one-year extensions. Through the MSA, ISOC, through the IAOC, will thereafter issue Work Orders for the delivery of specified software. Awarding a contract or contracts will be a two-step process: 1. Responses to this RFP will be used to identify qualified vendors to proceed to step two; 2. Invited vendors will be asked to provide pricing information for the development of a specific application, the assumptions and analysis used to reach that price. The Python IDIQ RFP can be found at this location: http://iaoc.ietf.org/rfpsrfis.html Proposals are due 5:00 P.M. EST (UTC-5) 11 December 2009. Questions regarding this RFP are due no later than 16 November. Answers will be posted at the above address no later than 20 November. Proposals and questions are to be sent by email to rpelletier@isoc.org. Ray Pelletier IETF Administrative Director --Apple-Mail-113--298215356 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The Internet Society and the IETF = Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) are seeking one or more = vendors to provide Python development services using the Django = framework. Proposals from any commercial or non-commercial vendor are = welcome.

The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) standards development = work is supported by an IT infrastructure using MySQL database and tools = developed in Python.  Some earlier tools developed using Perl are = being phased out.  The IETF is undertaking the Life Cycle = Datatracker Project and desires to enhance the current tool = infrastructure with Python using the Django framework and to extend the = current architecture to support authors, working group chairs, the RFC = Editor, the IANA administrators, and = others.

The Internet Society (ISOC) desires to enter into an Indefinite = Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) Master Services Agreement (MSA) with = one or more software development companies with which to accomplish its = objectives.  The MSA is an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity = (IDIQ) contract as it cannot be determined at this time the nature and = number of applications that will be necessary to complete the project. =  The MSA shall be for a three-year period with an option for two, = one-year extensions.   Through the MSA, ISOC, through the IAOC, = will thereafter issue Work Orders for the delivery of specified = software.

Awarding a contract or contracts will be a two-step process: =  
1.  Responses to this RFP will be used to identify qualified = vendors to proceed to step two; 

2. Invited vendors will be asked to provide = pricing information for the development of a specific application, the = assumptions and analysis used to reach that = price.

The Python IDIQ RFP can be found at this location:  http://iaoc.ietf.org/rfpsrfis.= html

Proposals are due 5:00 P.M. EST (UTC-5) 11 December 2009. =  Questions regarding this RFP are due no later than 16 November. =  Answers will be posted at the above address no later than 20 = November.  Proposals and  questions are to be sent by email to = rpelletier@isoc.org. <= /font>

Ray Pelletier
IETF Administrative = Director

= --Apple-Mail-113--298215356-- From rpelletier@isoc.org Mon Nov 2 09:15:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D3B28C1BC for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:15:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.149, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZLKSYSjMi-4f for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D5C28C19F for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 713EE1E614A; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay9.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 51AA11E612F; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:15:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <42E1CA33-B94D-44AA-988E-802126427700@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: <0DB1B73B-A620-4B56-9853-5C40F62B6705@isoc.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-116--297945944 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:15:28 -0500 References: <0DB1B73B-A620-4B56-9853-5C40F62B6705@isoc.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Python IDIQ RFP Announcement X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:15:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail-116--297945944 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All; Please forward to any you may think qualified. Thanks Ray On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > The Internet Society and the IETF Administrative Oversight Committee > (IAOC) are seeking one or more vendors to provide Python development > services using the Django framework. Proposals from any commercial > or non-commercial vendor are welcome. > > The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) standards development > work is supported by an IT infrastructure using MySQL database and > tools developed in Python. Some earlier tools developed using Perl > are being phased out. The IETF is undertaking the Life Cycle > Datatracker Project and desires to enhance the current tool > infrastructure with Python using the Django framework and to extend > the current architecture to support authors, working group chairs, > the RFC Editor, the IANA administrators, and others. > > The Internet Society (ISOC) desires to enter into an Indefinite > Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) Master Services Agreement (MSA) > with one or more software development companies with which to > accomplish its objectives. The MSA is an Indefinite Delivery/ > Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contract as it cannot be determined at > this time the nature and number of applications that will be > necessary to complete the project. The MSA shall be for a three- > year period with an option for two, one-year extensions. Through > the MSA, ISOC, through the IAOC, will thereafter issue Work Orders > for the delivery of specified software. > > Awarding a contract or contracts will be a two-step process: > 1. Responses to this RFP will be used to identify qualified vendors > to proceed to step two; > > 2. Invited vendors will be asked to provide pricing information for > the development of a specific application, the assumptions and > analysis used to reach that price. > > The Python IDIQ RFP can be found at this location: http://iaoc.ietf.org/rfpsrfis.html > > Proposals are due 5:00 P.M. EST (UTC-5) 11 December 2009. Questions > regarding this RFP are due no later than 16 November. Answers will > be posted at the above address no later than 20 November. Proposals > and questions are to be sent by email to rpelletier@isoc.org. > > Ray Pelletier > IETF Administrative Director > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --Apple-Mail-116--297945944 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All;

Please = forward to any you may think = qualified.

Thanks
Ray

On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote:

The Internet Society and the IETF = Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) are seeking one or more = vendors to provide Python development services using the Django = framework. Proposals from any commercial or non-commercial vendor are = welcome.

The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) standards development = work is supported by an IT infrastructure using MySQL database and tools = developed in Python.  Some earlier tools developed using Perl are = being phased out.  The IETF is undertaking the Life Cycle = Datatracker Project and desires to enhance the current tool = infrastructure with Python using the Django framework and to extend the = current architecture to support authors, working group chairs, the RFC = Editor, the IANA administrators, and = others.

The Internet Society (ISOC) desires to enter into an Indefinite = Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) Master Services Agreement (MSA) with = one or more software development companies with which to accomplish its = objectives.  The MSA is an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity = (IDIQ) contract as it cannot be determined at this time the nature and = number of applications that will be necessary to complete the project. =  The MSA shall be for a three-year period with an option for two, = one-year extensions.   Through the MSA, ISOC, through the IAOC, = will thereafter issue Work Orders for the delivery of specified = software.

Awarding a contract or contracts will be a two-step process: =  
1.  Responses to this RFP will be used to identify qualified = vendors to proceed to step two; 

2. Invited vendors will be asked to provide = pricing information for the development of a specific application, the = assumptions and analysis used to reach that = price.

The Python IDIQ RFP can be found at this location:  http://iaoc.ietf.org/rfpsrfis.= html

Proposals are due 5:00 P.M. EST (UTC-5) 11 December 2009. =  Questions regarding this RFP are due no later than 16 November. =  Answers will be posted at the above address no later than 20 = November.  Proposals and  questions are to be sent by email to = rpelletier@isoc.org. <= /font>

Ray Pelletier
IETF Administrative = Director

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TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org<= br>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development

= --Apple-Mail-116--297945944-- From rpelletier@isoc.org Sat Nov 14 12:18:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388663A6891 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:18:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.089 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.089 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.176, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0GxG7WxFfxYs for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp154.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp154.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.154]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B853A688D for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay5.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay5.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7B2F13EF3CE for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:18:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay5.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 26F3C3EF3DC for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:18:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: Ray Pelletier To: tools-development@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:18:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:18:10 -0000 All; The next tools call is on 20 November at 12:00 PM EST, 9:00PM PST. I will resend WebEx meeting details with correct time. Ray From tme@americafree.tv Thu Nov 12 17:02:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EF53A6961 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:02:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.579 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.579 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9YhikGK5Gk4c for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.americafree.tv (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095053A68BF for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (rossini.americafree.tv [63.105.122.34]) by mail.americafree.tv (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6E65341EC1; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:02:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <266D2F22-E80A-486A-8A4F-4C7E382AFF0A@americafree.tv> From: Marshall Eubanks To: tools-development@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:02:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:16:45 -0800 Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Searching for individual submissions X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:02:06 -0000 My pardons if this is not the right mailing list for this. It used to be that you could get a dump of all individual submissions. Now, on https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/ I see no way of selecting or listing individual submissions separately. Could at least we have a working group name of "none" to select these ? Regards Marshall From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Tue Nov 17 05:48:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533AB28C23C for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:48:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3oyo5siV4oVu for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw5.ericsson.se (mailgw5.ericsson.se [193.180.251.36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B37428C152 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:48:35 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb24-b7b67ae000001a2a-59-4b02a9b19ccf Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw5.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 52.11.06698.1B9A20B4; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:48:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.176]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:47:15 +0100 Received: from [153.88.55.60] ([153.88.55.60]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:47:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4B02A963.5040407@ericsson.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:47:15 +0100 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Pelletier References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2009 13:47:15.0798 (UTC) FILETIME=[7914F760:01CA678C] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:48:37 -0000 Ray, You have conflicting time information. I assume you mean 9:00 AM PST, i.e. 18.00 CET. Is this correct? /Magnus Ray Pelletier skrev: > All; > > The next tools call is on 20 November at 12:00 PM EST, 9:00PM PST. > > I will resend WebEx meeting details with correct time. > > Ray > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > -- Magnus Westerlund IETF Transport Area Director ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rpelletier@isoc.org Tue Nov 17 05:51:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B7828C242 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:51:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YS+AfNkYJisa for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp184.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp184.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.184]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFFA28C244 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay28.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay28.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 090291B406C; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay28.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id E58BF1B4140; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:51:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <425ADD34-3C43-4C1F-B571-F88B0208F5F3@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: Magnus Westerlund In-Reply-To: <4B02A963.5040407@ericsson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:51:16 -0500 References: <4B02A963.5040407@ericsson.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:51:21 -0000 On Nov 17, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Magnus Westerlund wrote: > Ray, > > You have conflicting time information. I assume you mean 9:00 AM PST, > i.e. 18.00 CET. Is this correct? Ahh, you are right. Jet lag. Ray > > /Magnus > > Ray Pelletier skrev: >> All; >> >> The next tools call is on 20 November at 12:00 PM EST, 9:00PM PST. >> >> I will resend WebEx meeting details with correct time. >> >> Ray >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> > > > --=20 > > Magnus Westerlund > > IETF Transport Area Director > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 > F=E4r=F6gatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 > SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From fluffy@cisco.com Tue Nov 17 12:26:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EF628C0DB for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:26:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.05 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.05 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.549, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nwkF5bUOuz1M for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:25:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7633A6BDA for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:25:59 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-5.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAKaVAkurRN+K/2dsb2JhbAC/M5gqhDsE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,759,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="105531940" Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2009 20:25:59 +0000 Received: from [192.168.4.177] (rcdn-fluffy-8711.cisco.com [10.99.9.18]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAHKPvTe025672; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:25:58 GMT Message-Id: From: Cullen Jennings To: Lars Eggert , tools-development@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Impp: xmpp:cullenfluffyjennings@jabber.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:25:57 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Stable URLs X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:26:01 -0000 If we don't already have this, I think we should start a list of "stable" URLs. These would be URLs that we make a strong effort to not change over a long period of time. On Oct 23, 2009, at 6:19 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: > Hi, > > the current ID boilerplate says: > >> The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at >> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt. > > This URL is redirected to http://www.ietf.org/ietf-ftp/1id-abstracts.txt > , which then produces a 404 error. > >> The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at >> http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html. > > This URL redirects to http://www.ietf.org/old/2009/shadow.html, > which has a list of some FTP sites. Among those: > > * ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/ietf/ has a bunch of stuff but not > actually any IDs (as far as I can tell) > > * ftp.nic.it doesn't respond > > * ftp://ftp.fccn.pt/pub/IETF/Internet-Drafts/ doesn't respond > > * munnari.oz.au doesn't have anything newer than March 2006 > > * ftp.ietf.rnp.br doesn't exist in the DNS anymore > > * ftp.kaist.ac.kr is listed twice > > Not good! > > Since I've seen zero complaints about this, I'm assuming nobody has > actually bothered to try and retrieve the ID index in this way or is > actually using these FTP mirrors anymore. > > I'd hence like to propose that we remove those lines from the > boilerplate to save five lines on the first page. > > Thoughts? > > Lars From Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com Wed Nov 18 07:44:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77303A6818 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:44:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.324 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.324 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.275, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BCSCka9bX4p1 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:44:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-mx06.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.122.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC003A6885 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (vaebh106.europe.nokia.com [10.160.244.32]) by mgw-mx06.nokia.com (Switch-3.3.3/Switch-3.3.3) with ESMTP id nAIFiRHC015319; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:44:35 +0200 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:44:28 +0200 Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.6]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:44:28 +0200 Received: from NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.106]) by nok-am1mhub-02.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.6]) with mapi; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:44:27 +0100 From: To: , Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:44:27 +0100 Thread-Topic: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Thread-Index: AcplZ7SslORXYaN2TCK638lD6PySDAC/gXjA Message-ID: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB774F30FE11A8@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2009 15:44:28.0027 (UTC) FILETIME=[0307B4B0:01CA6866] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:44:45 -0000 I won't make the call (have to be at home with the kids, and the grandparents are already booked :-), but here's a short summary of what I've done since the last call: - As of Tuesday of the IETF week, datatracker.ietf.org is running with Django 1.1.1 instead of 0.96 (this involved 150+ SVN commits between Stockholm and now). Retired old tools: - Replaced Mailing List Request Tool and Non-WG Mailing List Submission Tool (2,000+ lines of rarely used code) with instructions pages ("send these details to some AD, and ask him/her to forward the approved request to ietf-action"). - Completed Django replacements for generating all_id.txt, 1id-index.txt, and 1id-abstracs.txt (based on code sprint work by Robert and Jelte). These were deployed just before IETF76, and the old Perl scripts were retired. - Removed bunch of random Perl scripts: message-list (NomCom announcements), email-list (List of WG mailing lists), iesg-doc-status (Status of documents currently in IESG). Minor improvements: - Worked with Glen to improve mailing list archive usability: they now show 500 messages per page (instead of 25), which makes the browser's "Find" (inside a page) function much more useful. - The public version of the IESG telechat agenda now includes the "list of remaining action items" (Section 1.4), and proposed charters (Sections 4.*). - Did some clean-up for the Trac ticket system, so we can use it again for keeping track of bugs and requested enhancements What I plan to do in the next 2 months or so: - Get authentication/authorization working according to the revised plans. Authentication part is quite simple with Django 1.1. Authorization (who is in IESG/who is chairing what WG/etc.) needs some work. =20 - Implement missing pieces (text agenda, moderator script) needed to retire all Perl code related to IESG telechat agendas (3,500+ lines). - Try to get the "new tracker UI for drafts/RFCs" completed and deployed (replacing the old pages). (And I look forward to seeing some kind of of minutes from the call :-) Best regards, Pasi > -----Original Message----- > From: tools-development-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tools-development- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Ray Pelletier > Sent: 14 November, 2009 22:19 > To: tools-development@ietf.org > Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call >=20 > All; >=20 > The next tools call is on 20 November at 12:00 PM EST, 9:00PM PST. >=20 > I will resend WebEx meeting details with correct time. >=20 > Ray >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From housley@vigilsec.com Wed Nov 18 12:51:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A653A6891 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:51:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.804 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.804 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.795, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FLfDEgDiCcRj for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68D43A69C8 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595D3F24022 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:51:54 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7Adjq4etY-b9 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:51:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from THINKPADR52.vigilsec.com (pool-173-66-67-45.washdc.fios.verizon.net [173.66.67.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841729A4724 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:51:52 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:49:52 -0500 To: tools-development@ietf.org From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20091118205152.841729A4724@odin.smetech.net> Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Stable URLs X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:51:42 -0000 >>> The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at >>> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt. >> >>This URL is redirected to >>http://www.ietf.org/ietf-ftp/1id-abstracts.txt , which then >>produces a 404 error. I get a different redirection. It gets redirected to http://www.ietf.org/download/id-abstract.txt >>> The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at >>> http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html. >> >>This URL redirects to http://www.ietf.org/old/2009/shadow.html, >>which has a list of some FTP sites. Among those: >> >>* ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/ietf/ has a bunch of stuff but not >>actually any IDs (as far as I can tell) >> >>* ftp.nic.it doesn't respond >> >>* ftp://ftp.fccn.pt/pub/IETF/Internet-Drafts/ doesn't respond >> >>* munnari.oz.au doesn't have anything newer than March 2006 >> >>* ftp.ietf.rnp.br doesn't exist in the DNS anymore >> >>* ftp.kaist.ac.kr is listed twice I'm going to ask Steve Conte to look into this situation. Maybe no one worries about shadow sites any more. Russ From housley@vigilsec.com Wed Nov 18 12:52:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6DD3A6A8D for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:52:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.163 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.163 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.436, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ex7F7MxPQ8ri for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEF73A681C for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3351F24001; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:53:05 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VRm9vZopbiYB; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from THINKPADR52.vigilsec.com (pool-173-66-67-45.washdc.fios.verizon.net [173.66.67.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F599A4724; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:53:04 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:52:43 -0500 To: Ray Pelletier ,tools-development@ietf.org From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20091118205305.01F599A4724@odin.smetech.net> Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:52:51 -0000 I have 10:00 Eastern on my calendar for this call. When was the time changed? Russ At 03:18 PM 11/14/2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: >All; > >The next tools call is on 20 November at 12:00 PM EST, 9:00PM PST. > >I will resend WebEx meeting details with correct time. > >Ray > >_______________________________________________ >TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From rpelletier@isoc.org Wed Nov 18 14:00:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D0F3A67D6 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:00:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.569 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dSCI8y6LcNkU for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:00:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp234.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp234.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.234]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EA23A67F3 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:00:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay13.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay13.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 058AA1CF1E9; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay13.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id E3B811D4C3B; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:00:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3A6F3CA1-DBD9-4771-8384-64334120C67C@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <20091118205305.01F599A4724@odin.smetech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:00:13 -0500 References: <20091118205305.01F599A4724@odin.smetech.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:00:17 -0000 On Nov 18, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > I have 10:00 Eastern on my calendar for this call. When was the > time changed? Henrik reminded me that in deference to the early hour for the west coast USA we had concluded to hold the call 2 hours later. Ray > > Russ > > At 03:18 PM 11/14/2009, Ray Pelletier wrote: >> All; >> >> The next tools call is on 20 November at 12:00 PM EST, 9:00PM PST. >> >> I will resend WebEx meeting details with correct time. >> >> Ray >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From conte@isoc.org Thu Nov 19 12:02:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9706F3A6778 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:02:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l2cOZlKRM6zo for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp154.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp154.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.154]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842F13A6405 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay5.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay5.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 861893EF3E6; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay5.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: conte-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 1FC933EF316; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:02:20 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Steve Conte In-Reply-To: <20091118205152.841729A4724@odin.smetech.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:02:18 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20091118205152.841729A4724@odin.smetech.net> To: Russ Housley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Stable URLs X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:02:27 -0000 Russ, There is another URL that points to the mirror sites called http://www.ietf.org/mirror.html that seems to take the new site look into consideration. This url was = last touched Oct 20 There is also a mirror instructions link: http://www.ietf.org/mirror-instructions.html My guess is that the shadow.html is being found via the search tool = (it's the first result). ./old/2009/shadow.html was last touched Jan 16 2008 I'm not seeing where the redirect is taking place (I looked in = /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/ietf-www6.common for the redirect) SUGGEST: copy or link the current mirror.html to shadow.html to capture = the current look/feel of that file. SUGGEST: provide the URL to mirror-instructions (assuming they're still = valid) on the mirror.html site SUGGEST: provide details on how to be listed as a mirror site on = mirror-instructions.html In the mirror file, the following mirrors are listed: - Africa: ftp.is.co.za - Sweden: ftp.nordu.net - Switzerland: ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/ietf/ - Italy: ftp.nic.it - Portugal: ftp://ftp.fccn.pt/pub/IETF/Internet-Drafts/ - Pacific Rim: munnari.oz.au - US West Coast ftp.isi.edu - South America: ftp.ietf.rnp.br - Republic of Korea: ftp.kaist.ac.kr - (Republic of Korea: http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr) The following sites appear to be active: ftp.is.co.za -=20 Remote directory: /mirror/ietf-internet-drafts looks active (last = updated Nov 19) They also have a /mirror/ietf.org directory that looks like it may be = stale (Last updated Jan 19 2009) ftp.nordu.net - Remote directory: /internet-drafts looks active (last update Nov 19) they also have: /ietf-mail-archive (last updated Nov 4) /ietf-online-proceedings (last updated Feb 23 2008) mirror.switch.ch -=20 Remote directory: /pool/1/mirror/ietf This appears to be WG directories and it does seem to be updating (tsvwg = was updated Nov 19) Remote directory: /pool/1/mirror/internet-drafts (last update Nov 19) SUGGEST: change FTP on website to just point to mirror.switch.ch ftp.nic.it - Remote directory: /mirrors/internet-drafts (last update Nov 19) ftp.isi.edu - Remote directory: /internet-drafts (last update Nov 19) Remote directory: /ietf WG directories (tsvwg updated Nov 18) ftp.kaist.ac.kr -=20 Remote directory: /internet-drafts (last update Nov 13) SUGGEST: remove the duplicate http entry Sites with issues: ftp.fccn.pt - Not Responding SUGGEST: remove from website munnari.oz.au - Remote directory: /i-d but last updated Mar 15 2006 SUGGEST: remove from website ftp.ietf.rnp.br - ftp: Can't lookup `ftp.ietf.rnp.br': nodename nor servname provided, or = not known SUGGEST: remove from website Steve On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Russ Housley wrote: >=20 >>>> The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at >>>> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt. >>>=20 >>> This URL is redirected to = http://www.ietf.org/ietf-ftp/1id-abstracts.txt , which then produces a = 404 error. >=20 > I get a different redirection. It gets redirected to = http://www.ietf.org/download/id-abstract.txt >=20 >=20 >>>> The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at >>>> http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html. >>>=20 >>> This URL redirects to http://www.ietf.org/old/2009/shadow.html, >>> which has a list of some FTP sites. Among those: >>>=20 >>> * ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/ietf/ has a bunch of stuff but not >>> actually any IDs (as far as I can tell) >>>=20 >>> * ftp.nic.it doesn't respond >>>=20 >>> * ftp://ftp.fccn.pt/pub/IETF/Internet-Drafts/ doesn't respond >>>=20 >>> * munnari.oz.au doesn't have anything newer than March 2006 >>>=20 >>> * ftp.ietf.rnp.br doesn't exist in the DNS anymore >>>=20 >>> * ftp.kaist.ac.kr is listed twice >=20 > I'm going to ask Steve Conte to look into this situation. Maybe no = one worries about shadow sites any more. >=20 > Russ=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development ----- Steve Conte conte@isoc.org From housley@vigilsec.com Thu Nov 19 13:23:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2FD3A672F; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:23:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.399, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fKt38eJHt-fT; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040A03A67F5; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB349A4728; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:23:57 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RZzPhoE7vVPN; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from THINKPADR52.vigilsec.com (pool-173-66-67-45.washdc.fios.verizon.net [173.66.67.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3559A4727; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:23:53 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:23:37 -0500 To: amorris@amsl.com From: Russ Housley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20091119212353.5A3559A4727@odin.smetech.net> Cc: tools-development@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Re: Stable URLs X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:23:47 -0000 Alexa: Steve's suggestions make sense to me. The URL comes from the front page of ever Internet-Draft: The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html So, making this the primary name (instead of mirror.html) makes sense to me. Russ >Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Stable URLs >From: Steve Conte >Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:02:18 -0800 >Cc: tools-development@ietf.org >To: Russ Housley > >Russ, > >There is another URL that points to the mirror sites called > >http://www.ietf.org/mirror.html > >that seems to take the new site look into consideration. This url >was last touched Oct 20 > >There is also a mirror instructions link: > >http://www.ietf.org/mirror-instructions.html > >My guess is that the shadow.html is being found via the search tool >(it's the first result). > >./old/2009/shadow.html was last touched Jan 16 2008 > >I'm not seeing where the redirect is taking place (I looked in >/etc/apache2/vhosts.d/ietf-www6.common for the redirect) > >SUGGEST: copy or link the current mirror.html to shadow.html to >capture the current look/feel of that file. >SUGGEST: provide the URL to mirror-instructions (assuming they're >still valid) on the mirror.html site >SUGGEST: provide details on how to be listed as a mirror site on >mirror-instructions.html > >In the mirror file, the following mirrors are listed: > >- Africa: ftp.is.co.za >- Sweden: ftp.nordu.net >- Switzerland: ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/ietf/ >- Italy: ftp.nic.it >- Portugal: ftp://ftp.fccn.pt/pub/IETF/Internet-Drafts/ >- Pacific Rim: munnari.oz.au >- US West Coast ftp.isi.edu >- South America: ftp.ietf.rnp.br >- Republic of Korea: ftp.kaist.ac.kr >- (Republic of Korea: http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr) > >The following sites appear to be active: > >ftp.is.co.za - >Remote directory: /mirror/ietf-internet-drafts looks active (last >updated Nov 19) >They also have a /mirror/ietf.org directory that looks like it may >be stale (Last updated Jan 19 2009) > >ftp.nordu.net - >Remote directory: /internet-drafts looks active (last update Nov 19) >they also have: >/ietf-mail-archive (last updated Nov 4) >/ietf-online-proceedings (last updated Feb 23 2008) > >mirror.switch.ch - >Remote directory: /pool/1/mirror/ietf >This appears to be WG directories and it does seem to be updating >(tsvwg was updated Nov 19) >Remote directory: /pool/1/mirror/internet-drafts (last update Nov 19) >SUGGEST: change FTP on website to just point to mirror.switch.ch > >ftp.nic.it - >Remote directory: /mirrors/internet-drafts (last update Nov 19) > >ftp.isi.edu - >Remote directory: /internet-drafts (last update Nov 19) >Remote directory: /ietf WG directories (tsvwg updated Nov 18) > >ftp.kaist.ac.kr - >Remote directory: /internet-drafts (last update Nov 13) >SUGGEST: remove the duplicate http entry > > >Sites with issues: > >ftp.fccn.pt - Not Responding >SUGGEST: remove from website > >munnari.oz.au - >Remote directory: /i-d but last updated Mar 15 2006 >SUGGEST: remove from website > >ftp.ietf.rnp.br - >ftp: Can't lookup `ftp.ietf.rnp.br': nodename nor servname provided, >or not known >SUGGEST: remove from website > > >Steve > >On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > > > > >>>> The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at > >>>> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt. > >>> > >>> This URL is redirected to > http://www.ietf.org/ietf-ftp/1id-abstracts.txt , which then > produces a 404 error. > > > > I get a different redirection. It gets redirected to > http://www.ietf.org/download/id-abstract.txt > > > > > >>>> The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at > >>>> http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html. > >>> > >>> This URL redirects to http://www.ietf.org/old/2009/shadow.html, > >>> which has a list of some FTP sites. Among those: > >>> > >>> * ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/ietf/ has a bunch of stuff but not > >>> actually any IDs (as far as I can tell) > >>> > >>> * ftp.nic.it doesn't respond > >>> > >>> * ftp://ftp.fccn.pt/pub/IETF/Internet-Drafts/ doesn't respond > >>> > >>> * munnari.oz.au doesn't have anything newer than March 2006 > >>> > >>> * ftp.ietf.rnp.br doesn't exist in the DNS anymore > >>> > >>> * ftp.kaist.ac.kr is listed twice > > > > I'm going to ask Steve Conte to look into this situation. Maybe > no one worries about shadow sites any more. > > > > Russ From rpelletier@isoc.org Fri Nov 20 03:04:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44113A68C9 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:04:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.561 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.561 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id icZmU1AUeab2 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:04:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADE63A6887 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:04:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 93C441B4044; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:04:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay19.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 7C0471B402B; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:04:30 -0500 (EST) From: Ray Pelletier To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 1 References: Message-Id: <7AB33E34-94C5-4ED1-B4EB-7C4AD2069880@isoc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:04:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] AGENDA was Re: Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:04:35 -0000 All; Draft Agenda for 11-20 Call. Ray Tools Call 11-20-09 1. Database Redesign Update 2. Secretariat Tools for Redesigned DB 3. WG Chairs & Authors Front End 4. TLP 4.0 - Changes to accommodate Alternative Streams Timeline - December TLP 4.0 ready for adoption (Maybe) 5. Mission Critical Tools Xfer to Secretariat - Status rfcdif - install in another place in Dec idnits - install in another place in Dec 6. RFC Production Center and RFC Publisher to AMS Transition Update 8. Hiroshima Code Sprint Results 9. Conte Update 10. Python IDIQ Contract Update On Nov 14, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All; > > The next tools call is on 20 November at 12:00 PM EST, 9:00PM PST. > > I will resend WebEx meeting details with correct time. > > Ray > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From rpelletier@isoc.org Fri Nov 20 08:55:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A898D3A6982 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:55:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.564 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.564 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.034, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0kSXxlcDprxz for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:55:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp144.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp144.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.144]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416F03A6358 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:55:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 62775C8AE; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 37F1EC894; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:54:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <7D706633-B5C1-489E-AC50-30BFFFCC6B33@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: <7AB33E34-94C5-4ED1-B4EB-7C4AD2069880@isoc.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-21--891460068 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) X-Priority: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:54:57 -0500 References: <7AB33E34-94C5-4ED1-B4EB-7C4AD2069880@isoc.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] AGENDA was Re: Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:55:02 -0000 --Apple-Mail-21--891460068 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WebEx Details: Hello , Ray Pelletier invites you to attend this online meeting. 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On Nov 20, 2009, at 6:04 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All; > > Draft Agenda for 11-20 Call. > > Ray > > Tools Call 11-20-09 > > 1. Database Redesign Update > > 2. Secretariat Tools for Redesigned DB > > 3. WG Chairs & Authors Front End > > 4. TLP 4.0 - > Changes to accommodate Alternative Streams > Timeline - December TLP 4.0 ready for adoption (Maybe) > > 5. Mission Critical Tools Xfer to Secretariat - Status > rfcdif - install in another place in Dec > idnits - install in another place in Dec > > 6. RFC Production Center and RFC Publisher to AMS > Transition Update > > 8. Hiroshima Code Sprint Results > > 9. Conte Update > > 10. Python IDIQ Contract Update > > > > On Nov 14, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> All; >> >> The next tools call is on 20 November at 12:00 PM EST, 9:00PM PST. >> >> I will resend WebEx meeting details with correct time. >> >> Ray >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > --Apple-Mail-21--891460068 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WebEx = Details:

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On Nov 20, 2009, at 6:04 AM, Ray = Pelletier wrote:

All;

Draft Agenda for 11-20 = Call.

Ray

Tools Call 11-20-09

1.  Database = Redesign Update

2.  Secretariat Tools for Redesigned = DB

3.  WG Chairs & Authors Front End

4.  TLP = 4.0 -
= = Changes to accommodate Alternative Streams
Timeline = - December TLP 4.0 ready for adoption (Maybe)

5.  Mission = Critical Tools Xfer to Secretariat - Status
rfcdif - = install in another place in Dec
idnits - install in another place = in Dec

6.  RFC Production Center and RFC Publisher to = AMS
= Transition Update

8.  Hiroshima Code Sprint = Results

9.  Conte Update

10.  Python IDIQ = Contract Update



On Nov 14, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Ray = Pelletier wrote:

All;

The next tools = call is on 20 November at 12:00 PM EST, 9:00PM = PST.

I will resend = WebEx meeting details with correct time.

Ray

_______________________________________________
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TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org<= br>
https://w= ww.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development


= --Apple-Mail-21--891460068-- From rpelletier@isoc.org Fri Nov 20 09:52:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9673A67C2 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:52:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.566 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.566 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ft1Uz-B7BwIL for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp144.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp144.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.144]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FFE3A67A7 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 89DCBC940; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:52:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay4.r5.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 54230C698; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:52:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <96CE345E-B52E-43BD-8429-F6E3A25E6C08@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: <7D706633-B5C1-489E-AC50-30BFFFCC6B33@isoc.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-22--888027854 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) X-Priority: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:52:09 -0500 References: <7AB33E34-94C5-4ED1-B4EB-7C4AD2069880@isoc.org> <7D706633-B5C1-489E-AC50-30BFFFCC6B33@isoc.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] NOTES was Re: AGENDA was Re: Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:52:15 -0000 --Apple-Mail-22--888027854 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tools Call 11-20-09 Attendees Henrik Russ Magnus Bob Steve Ray Alexa 1. Database Redesign Update Henrik - not a lot has changed since last update; Russ - Kurtis discussion, 2 weeks dedicated possible Henrik - says its doable 2. Secretariat Tools for Redesigned DB Glen - technical perspective started rewriting tools in Django framework; clearly the way to go because IETF community using; started writing tools for things that were absent, like adding liaisons to liaisons db. Next tackling: Rolodex Proceeding with work. 3. WG Chairs & Authors Front End Russ - Ed Juskevicius volunteered and began updating Henrik effort of 2 years ago met with WG chairs in Hiroshima and will have next iteration out soon RFP for completion of work will be out Nov/Dec; Expect specs to be ready for Anaheim mtg for final comments Expect specs to be published in May Development to be awarded against the IDIQ contract 4. TLP 4.0 - Changes to accommodate Alternative Streams Timeline - December TLP 4.0 should be ready for adoption Boilerplate will change for IRTF and IS, so changes to xml2rfc needed 5. Mission Critical Tools Xfer to Secretariat - Status rfcdif - install in another place in Dec idnits - install in another place in Dec Henrik to handle with Glen. 6. RFC Production Center and RFC Publisher to AMS Transition Update Glen - everything under control; no surprises at this point In progress; staged all basics; reviewing all material received; on track for 15 Dec Website - transfer next week to Trust, then update the domains Russ - any potholes? Glen - not right now; volume of scripts less than from NeuStar; however live programs and scripts about 4x that from NeuStar; messy, but nothing of concern; comfortable 8. Hiroshima Code Sprint Results Henrik - completed transition to Django 1.1 from 0.96 means authentication handling inside and outside of Dango all in one place Successful code sprint: Clear goal and accomplished it 9. Conte Update Steve - Inventorying AMS core system; ID Tracker directory; 400 files - active and not. Python directory 2.38 review? May not review. Next step to see where Web links are pointing to. See what's live and getting rid of the orphans. Henrik - current release of Django data tracker is that 2.38 directory. No inventory needed. All under version control. 10. Python-Django IDIQ Contract Update Ray - RFP out. Closes 11 Dec. More than 6 responses so far; one company at least among the group. Some more interesting than others. Expect contract awards in Q1 On Nov 20, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > WebEx Details: > > Hello , > > Ray Pelletier invites you to attend this online meeting. > > Topic: Tools Cmte > Date: Friday, November 20, 2009 > Time: 12:00 pm, Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00) > Meeting Number: 969 103 188 > Meeting Password: (This meeting does not require a password.) > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > To join the online meeting (Now from iPhones too!) > ------------------------------------------------------- > 1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=130324467&UID=0&RT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D > 2. Enter your name and email address. > 3. Enter the meeting password: (This meeting does not require a > password.) > 4. Click "Join Now". > > To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link: > https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=130324467&UID=0&ORT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D > > ------------------------------------------------------- > To join the audio conference only > ------------------------------------------------------- > To receive a call back, provide your phone number when you join the > meeting, or call the number below and enter the access code. > Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 866-699-3239 > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-792-6300 > Global call-in numbers: https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/globalcallin.php?serviceType=MC&ED=130324467&tollFree=1 > Toll-free dialing restrictions: http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf > > Access code:969 103 188 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > For assistance > ------------------------------------------------------- > 1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/mc > 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". > > You can contact me at: > rpelletier@isoc.org > 1-703-652-9534 > > To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft > Outlook), click this link: > https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=130324467&UID=0&ICS=MI&LD=1&RD=2&ST=1&SHA2=UkBaCJw0WkQZXvCtvK4cBlTPbRGHpOmxAzaYfTFSAro=&RT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D > > The playback of UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich media > files requires appropriate players. To view this type of rich media > files in the meeting, please check whether you have the players > installed on your computer by going to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/systemdiagnosis.php > > Sign up for a free trial of WebEx > http://www.webex.com/go/mcemfreetrial > > http://www.webex.com > > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows > audio and any documents and other materials exchanged or viewed > during the session to be recorded. By joining this session, you > automatically consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to > the recording, do not join the session. > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 6:04 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> All; >> >> Draft Agenda for 11-20 Call. >> >> Ray >> >> Tools Call 11-20-09 >> >> 1. Database Redesign Update >> >> 2. Secretariat Tools for Redesigned DB >> >> 3. WG Chairs & Authors Front End >> >> 4. TLP 4.0 - >> Changes to accommodate Alternative Streams >> Timeline - December TLP 4.0 ready for adoption (Maybe) >> >> 5. Mission Critical Tools Xfer to Secretariat - Status >> rfcdif - install in another place in Dec >> idnits - install in another place in Dec >> >> 6. RFC Production Center and RFC Publisher to AMS >> Transition Update >> >> 8. Hiroshima Code Sprint Results >> >> 9. Conte Update >> >> 10. Python IDIQ Contract Update >> >> >> >> On Nov 14, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: >> >>> All; >>> >>> The next tools call is on 20 November at 12:00 PM EST, 9:00PM PST. >>> >>> I will resend WebEx meeting details with correct time. >>> >>> Ray >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> > --Apple-Mail-22--888027854 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tools Call = 11-20-09

Attendees
Henrik
Rus= s
Magnus
Bob
Steve
Ray
A= lexa

1.  Database Redesign = Update
= Henrik - not a lot has changed since last = update; 
Russ - Kurtis discussion, 2 weeks = dedicated possible
Henrik - says its = doable

2.  Secretariat Tools for = Redesigned DB
Glen - technical perspective = started rewriting tools in Django framework; clearly the way to go = because IETF community using; started writing tools for things that were = absent, like adding liaisons to liaisons db.
= Next tackling: Rolodex
Proceeding with = work.

3.  WG Chairs & Authors Front = End
= Russ - Ed Juskevicius volunteered and began updating Henrik = effort of 2 years ago
met with WG = chairs in Hiroshima and will have next iteration out = soon
= RFP for completion of work will be out = Nov/Dec; 
Expect specs to = be ready for Anaheim mtg for final = comments
Expect specs to = be published in May
Development to be = awarded against the IDIQ contract

4.  TLP = 4.0 - 
Changes to accommodate = Alternative Streams
Timeline - December TLP = 4.0 should be ready for adoption
Boilerplate will change = for IRTF and IS, so changes to xml2rfc needed
=
5.  Mission Critical Tools Xfer to Secretariat - = Status
= rfcdif - install in another place in = Dec
= idnits - install in another place in Dec
= Henrik to handle with Glen.

6.  RFC = Production Center and RFC Publisher to AMS
= Transition Update
Glen - everything under control; = no surprises at this point
In progress; staged all = basics; reviewing all material received; on track for 15 = Dec
= Website - transfer next week to Trust, then update the = domains
Russ - any = potholes?
Glen - not right now; volume of = scripts less than from NeuStar; however live programs and scripts about = 4x that from NeuStar; messy, but nothing of concern; = comfortable

8.  Hiroshima Code Sprint = Results
Henrik - completed transition to = Django 1.1 from 0.96
means authentication = handling inside and outside of Dango all in one place
= Successful code sprint: Clear goal and accomplished = it

9.  Conte Update
Steve - = Inventorying AMS core system; ID Tracker directory; 400 files - active = and not. = Python directory 2.38 review?  May not review.  Next = step to see where Web links are pointing to.  See what's live and = getting rid of the orphans.

Henrik - = current release of Django data tracker is that 2.38 directory.  No = inventory needed.  All under version = control.

10.  Python-Django IDIQ Contract = Update

Ray - RFP out.  Closes 11 = Dec.
= More than 6 responses so far; one company at least among the = group.
= Some more interesting than others.
Expect = contract awards in = Q1




O= n Nov 20, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote:

WebEx = Details:

Hello , 

Ray Pelletier invites you to = attend this online meeting. 

Topic: Tools = Cmte 
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009 
Time: 12:00 pm, = Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00) 
Meeting Number: 969 = 103 188 
Meeting Password: (This meeting does not require a = password.) 


----------------------------------------------= --------- 
To join the online meeting (Now from iPhones = too!) 
-------------------------------------------------------&nbs= p;
1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D1303244= 67&UID=3D0&RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D 
2. Enter your name and = email address. 
3. Enter the meeting password: (This meeting = does not require a password.) 
4. Click "Join = Now". 

To view in other time zones or languages, please = click the link: 
https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D1303244= 67&UID=3D0&ORT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D 

-------------------= ------------------------------------ 
To join the audio = conference = only 
------------------------------------------------------- = ;
To receive a call back, provide your phone number when you join the = meeting, or call the number below and enter the access = code. 
Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): = 866-699-3239 
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): = 1-408-792-6300 
Global call-in numbers: https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/globalcallin.php?s= erviceType=3DMC&ED=3D130324467&tollFree=3D1 
Toll-free= dialing restrictions: http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf&n= bsp;

Access code:969 103 = 188 

-------------------------------------------------------&n= bsp;
For = assistance 
------------------------------------------------------= - 
1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/mc 
2.= On the left navigation bar, click "Support". 

You can = contact me at: 
rpelletier@isoc.org 
1-703= -652-9534 

To add this meeting to your calendar program (for = example Microsoft Outlook), click this link: 
https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D1303244= 67&UID=3D0&ICS=3DMI&LD=3D1&RD=3D2&ST=3D1&SHA2=3DUk= BaCJw0WkQZXvCtvK4cBlTPbRGHpOmxAzaYfTFSAro=3D&RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D&nbs= p;

The playback of UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich = media files requires appropriate players. To view this type of rich = media files in the meeting, please check whether you have the players = installed on your computer by going to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/systemdiagnosis.ph= p 

Sign up for a free trial of WebEx 
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IMPORTANT = NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows audio and any = documents and other materials exchanged or viewed during the session to = be recorded. By joining this session, you automatically consent to such = recordings. If you do not consent to the recording, do not join the = session. 


On Nov 20, 2009, at 6:04 AM, Ray = Pelletier wrote:

All;

Draft Agenda for 11-20 = Call.

Ray

Tools Call 11-20-09

1.  Database = Redesign Update

2.  Secretariat Tools for Redesigned = DB

3.  WG Chairs & Authors Front End

4.  TLP = 4.0 -
= = Changes to accommodate Alternative Streams
Timeline = - December TLP 4.0 ready for adoption (Maybe)

5.  Mission = Critical Tools Xfer to Secretariat - Status
rfcdif - = install in another place in Dec
idnits - install in another place = in Dec

6.  RFC Production Center and RFC Publisher to = AMS
= Transition Update

8.  Hiroshima Code Sprint = Results

9.  Conte Update

10.  Python IDIQ = Contract Update



On Nov 14, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Ray = Pelletier wrote:

All;

The next tools = call is on 20 November at 12:00 PM EST, 9:00PM = PST.

I will resend = WebEx meeting details with correct time.

Ray

_______________________________________________
TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing = list
TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org<= br>
https://w= ww.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development



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