From rpelletier@isoc.org Sun Dec 6 02:19:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09ACA3A6844 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 02:19:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.42 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.42 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.179, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BbqKdWQUDG6Y for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 02:19:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.134]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB2628C0CE for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 02:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BA9EF44C01A for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id A4BC544C016 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: Ray Pelletier To: tools-development@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Call Time Doodle Poll X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:19:38 -0000 All; I've set up a poll to identify an optimal time for our regularly scheduled calls on the 2nd Friday of the month. Please advise what works for you: http://doodle.com/dud4cxu4cnkp323t Thanks Ray From rpelletier@isoc.org Mon Dec 7 07:41:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301883A6843 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:41:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.423 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.176, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dCOpYA7eggz0 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp154.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp154.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.154]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A163A6A6F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 53A6F5C1EA7 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:41:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay5.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 42E8F5C1EC0 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:41:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <8759F92A-61E5-4057-BB46-93C916CB36A5@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: tools-development@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) X-Priority: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:41:16 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] New Call Schedule X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:41:28 -0000 All; Thanks for completing the Doodle poll. Future calls, beginning this Friday 11 Dec, will begin at 11:00 AM EST. Russ will be sending out WebEx details for Friday's call. Thanks Ray From housley@vigilsec.com Mon Dec 7 11:51:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E3628C1DD for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:51:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.528 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.528 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.387, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jm0UqQ2LvGKa for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:51:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DD828C1D6 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:51:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096039A4770 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:52:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1FE4KvI5KenY for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:51:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from THINKPADR52.vigilsec.com (pool-173-66-67-45.washdc.fios.verizon.net [173.66.67.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2909A473F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:52:27 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:51:16 -0500 To: tools-development@ietf.org From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <8759F92A-61E5-4057-BB46-93C916CB36A5@isoc.org> References: <8759F92A-61E5-4057-BB46-93C916CB36A5@isoc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20091207195227.1A2909A473F@odin.smetech.net> Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] New Call Schedule X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:51:36 -0000 Topic: Tools Call
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At 10:41 AM 12/7/2009, Ray Pelletier wrote:
All;

Thanks for completing the Doodle poll.

Future calls, beginning this Friday 11 Dec, will begin at 11:00 AM EST.

Russ will be sending out WebEx details for Friday's call.

Thanks

Ray

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From housley@vigilsec.com Wed Dec 9 13:41:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B0C3A6937 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:41:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.333 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.333 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.266, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gkaL1CO5uYbO for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4513A690C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC5D9A471B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:42:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9qt4iph8lus7 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:41:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from THINKPADR52.vigilsec.com (pool-173-66-67-45.washdc.fios.verizon.net [173.66.67.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75279A477D for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:42:15 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:41:14 -0500 To: tools-development@ietf.org From: Russ Housley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20091209214215.D75279A477D@odin.smetech.net> Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Left column of datatracker.ietf.org is not the same as www.ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:41:32 -0000 I just noticed this... Shouldn't these two systems have the same left column content? Russ From Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com Thu Dec 10 09:56:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4723A6B4E for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:56:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yQbZePx7q0Al for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:56:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-mx06.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.122.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506563A68A4 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (vaebh106.europe.nokia.com [10.160.244.32]) by mgw-mx06.nokia.com (Switch-3.3.3/Switch-3.3.3) with ESMTP id nBAHu2MN019958; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:56:19 +0200 Received: from vaebh104.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.160.244.30]) by vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:55:59 +0200 Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.6]) by vaebh104.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:55:50 +0200 Received: from NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.86]) by nok-am1mhub-02.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.6]) with mapi; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:55:50 +0100 From: To: , Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:55:49 +0100 Thread-Topic: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Left column of datatracker.ietf.org is not the same as www.ietf.org Thread-Index: Acp5GGNhhsuBD8NFRIi5FhtsA16nXgApqxGQ Message-ID: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB774F31DEA8E8@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> References: <20091209214215.D75279A477D@odin.smetech.net> In-Reply-To: <20091209214215.D75279A477D@odin.smetech.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2009 17:55:50.0760 (UTC) FILETIME=[0297CE80:01CA79C2] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Left column of datatracker.ietf.org is not the same as www.ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:56:36 -0000 Russ Housley wrote: > I just noticed this... Shouldn't these two systems have the same > left column content? Well... that's a good question. My personal opinion (at this time) is that they probably should not. I view www.ietf.org as "hypertext documentation about IETF", and datatracker.ietf.org as a "document management application". The best UI for the former probably isn't the same as best UI for the latter. But datatracker.ietf.org actually has two different left columns: http://datatracker.ietf.org/idtracker/ http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/ I think one should be enough (and it's probably needless to say which version I prefer :-). And of course, http://tools.ietf.org/ has a different left column.. Best regards, Pasi From Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com Fri Dec 11 08:09:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DC03A68C4 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:09:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p9gXzevqyIl0 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:09:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-mx09.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.105.134]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1763A67DF for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh105.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.211]) by mgw-mx09.nokia.com (Switch-3.3.3/Switch-3.3.3) with ESMTP id nBBG8sT5018133 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:08:58 -0600 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:08:56 +0200 Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.5]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:08:56 +0200 Received: from NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.86]) by nok-am1mhub-01.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.5]) with mapi; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:08:55 +0100 From: To: Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:08:54 +0100 Thread-Topic: Tools status update Thread-Index: AcplZ7SslORXYaN2TCK638lD6PySDAC/gXjABIVZfKA= Message-ID: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB774F31E7EBA1@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2009 16:08:56.0907 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E0D41B0:01CA7A7C] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools status update X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:09:12 -0000 A short status update from me: On 18 November 2009, Pasi Eronen wrote: =20 > What I plan to do in the next 2 months or so: >=20 > - Get authentication/authorization working according to the revised > plans. Authentication part is quite simple with Django 1.1. > Authorization (who is in IESG/who is chairing what WG/etc.) needs > some work. New authentication code was deployed on December 1. It also includes authorization roles/groups for IESG and secretariat, but not yet WG chairs. Next step is to add authorization for WG/BOF/etc. chairs, but since we don't yet have any code that would need it, it's currently not very high on my priority list. > - Implement missing pieces (text agenda, moderator script) needed to > retire all Perl code related to IESG telechat agendas (3,500+ lines). Code written and deployed. If Amy and Cindy agree, the moderator script code might be tested for the next (December 17) telechat. =20 Text agenda/IESG agenda package emails will hopefully be tested for the January 7 telechat (also depending on Amy and Cindy). Work on retiring the old code will start when we're satisfied with the testing results (hopefully after the January 7 telechat). > - Try to get the "new tracker UI for drafts/RFCs" completed and > deployed (replacing the old pages). Some small progress, but no finished code yet. This will be my top=20 tools priority during the next 1-2 months. Best regards, Pasi From housley@vigilsec.com Fri Dec 11 08:36:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F923A69B6 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:36:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.36 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.36 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.239, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j3DBFRXPMgpq for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:36:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB213A6405 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:36:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BE49A4743 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:36:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D5MYAiFcMa2v for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from THINKPADR52.vigilsec.com (pool-173-66-67-45.washdc.fios.verizon.net [173.66.67.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8349A4728 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:36:34 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:36:08 -0500 To: tools-development@ietf.org From: Russ Housley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20091211163634.DF8349A4728@odin.smetech.net> Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Database Redesign Status X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:36:28 -0000 I'm passing this on. Russ = = = = = = = = = Now, 4 1/2 days into this effort, I've come some ways, but also found new (although not particularly unexpected) problems due to the inconsistencies of the old database. I've completed one full pass of converting all drafts and their authors, ADs, email addresses etc. to the new format, and found that one of the few aspects of the old schema I'd kept was also broken -- the idea of storing people's names as: name_prefix, first_name, middle_initials, last_name, name_suffix ... Some names just don't fit into that model, and the model also makes it hard to undo the breakage (some persons existing in a large number of instances in the database, with variations in how the fields are set). I've now changed the model to having one table of known name aliases, which can be both ascii and unicode, and should be used to look up people, these aliases point to one and only one instance of a person record. This record contains a preferred ascii and utf-8 full name string, which can be edited if preferences change, without breaking lookups and document author relationships. I've also added more programmatic support for resolving broken author information, (using the draft author module from the incomplete idsubmit rewrite) which lets me handle most of the many instances of multiple person records for the same author which exist. I hope that the second full conversion should be complete (with all known broken author relationships resolved) this afternoon, before our call. After that, the next step (I think) will be to convert the email address information which has not been automatically pulled in by the draft & author conversion; then I'll probably look at converting the document history information. After that, group membership conversion/creation, which should cover most of the models in http://merlot.tools.ietf.org/src/db/new/redesign/models.png I hope to manage the above, possibly with the exception of the groups, during next week. Best, Henrik From conte@isoc.org Fri Dec 11 08:53:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4507D3A67A4 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:53:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ey-mqUvEMjO5 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp194.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp194.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170F63A69FD for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3A07313D3F20 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:53:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay9.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: conte-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id DF70413D3F26 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:53:27 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Conte Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:53:26 -0800 Message-Id: <03E309D5-1C3A-4F94-B7C5-C6672B8B20B0@isoc.org> To: tools-development@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Notes from 11 Dec Telechat X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:53:41 -0000 Please feel free to make corrections: ----- Notes for Tools Call - 11 Dec 2009 Attendees: Russ=20 Bob=20 Henrik=20 Magnus=20 Pasi=20 Steve=20 Karen Glen 1. Database Redesign Update Henrik: - OK for Henrik to dedicate 2 weeks - Note sent to Russ with description where things stand. Russ to = forward to list - All documents converted and associated authors/email address - not complete email set - discovered major issues with how names are handled (now redesigned) - next part will be to convert historic document information - create groups for people=20 - lots of replication in new schema in regards to names Can Secretariat help? - issue is more complex Data cleanup should be done by AMSL so Henrik can focus on design Core tables should be done by end of next week (with a few possible = exceptions) 2. Secretariat Tools for Redesigned DB Glen: - moving forward with redesign of all Sec Tools - Rolodex work has been started - Proceedings Generation System is the big project Proceedings are being re-worked as well (part of the Proceedings Tool = rewrite) 3. WG Chairs & Authors Front End Russ: - Ed Juskevicius working on specification on that part of the System - Has begun - RFP written to find out who will finish this work - Target date is shortly after Anaheim IETF - Ed has updated work by Henrik and Allison Mankin 4. TLP 4.0 Russ: - Trust has update out for comment to close on 27 Dec - Important to remove block on rfc and irtf stream - no negative comments - only tool impacted (near term) is idnits to allow for an alternate = copyright paragraph - ISI wanting to publish if approved for pre-2010 publication When to update idnits? - idnits won't prevent ISI from publishing - is OK for a graceful transition (early in the year) 5. Mission Critical Tools Xfer to Secretariat Henrik: rfcdif - install in another place in Dec idnits - install in another place in Dec - send Glen a page to put up=20 - would like to see if Glen can use the infrastructure that Henrik is = using 6. RFC Production Center and RFC Publisher to AMS Transition Update Karen: - have environment set up - RFC team was in town to test tools , going well - minor issues, but corrected quickly Russ: - RFC Editor has 6 domians=20 - only 1 used (rfc-editor.org) - other 5 transistioned from ISI to IETF Trust - operational one difficult to transitition - additional locks on rfc-editor.org - ICANN board needed to approve domain move=20 Glen: - attempting transition around 04 Jan - there are other factors causing delays too, but not insurmountable=20 -- ISI unable to get all data available for the sync=20 -- RFC Editor previously staged on 3 machines, only one of which = controlled by ISI 7. Conte Update Steve: - Document/Revision Control is currently only taking place for Django = environment - Steve to work with Glen to best determine how to make sure that no = PERL code is overlooked during migration (No Code Left Behind!) - Also working on building a storefront within Cafe Press to provide = IETF and IETF Meeting logoed items for sale. =20 - Storefront to be presented to IAOC prior to their next meeting (early = Jan) 8. Python-Django IDIQ Contract Update Russ: - goal is to pre-qualify vendors - received many proposals, Henrik helping to evaluate - Data Dracker Project Manager position - Henrik to fill this role (10 hours a week) - Contract represents the pool of pre-approved talent to draw upon = non-Secretariat and non-datatracker initiatives 9. Other Business=20 Pasi: - updated new authentication code on 01 Dec - IESG telechat code to possibly test on 17 Dec=20 ----- Steve Conte conte@isoc.org From housley@vigilsec.com Fri Dec 11 08:56:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968823A69FE for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:56:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.363 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.363 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.236, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2mJJ2-PRHVV8 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:56:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D6B3A69FD for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B039A4743; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:56:56 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QOWrtyhr-zF6; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:56:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from THINKPADR52.vigilsec.com (pool-173-66-67-45.washdc.fios.verizon.net [173.66.67.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77059A4728; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:56:55 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:56:10 -0500 To: Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB774F31E7EBA1@NOK-EUMSG-01.mg dnok.nokia.com> References: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB774F31E7EBA1@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20091211165655.E77059A4728@odin.smetech.net> Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools status update X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:56:25 -0000 Pasi: > > - Try to get the "new tracker UI for drafts/RFCs" completed and > > deployed (replacing the old pages). > >Some small progress, but no finished code yet. This will be my top >tools priority during the next 1-2 months. I think it would be useful to put a text box on the ietf.org front page that does the same search as https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/ Is this easy or hard? Russ From Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com Fri Dec 11 09:10:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431B63A69FD for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:10:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.548 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.548 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.051, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LOiHeBQ+0vpQ for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-mx09.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.105.134]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49A23A69FB for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (vaebh106.europe.nokia.com [10.160.244.32]) by mgw-mx09.nokia.com (Switch-3.3.3/Switch-3.3.3) with ESMTP id nBBHAQw6006452; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:10:28 -0600 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:09:53 +0200 Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.8]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:09:54 +0200 Received: from NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.86]) by nok-am1mhub-04.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.8]) with mapi; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:09:53 +0100 From: To: Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:09:52 +0100 Thread-Topic: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools status update Thread-Index: Acp6gturDefG370IRXedOY15v+54HwAAa5RA Message-ID: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB774F31E7EBF2@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> References: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB774F31E7EBA1@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> <20091211165655.E77059A4728@odin.smetech.net> In-Reply-To: <20091211165655.E77059A4728@odin.smetech.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2009 17:09:54.0212 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1F9B640:01CA7A84] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools status update X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:10:46 -0000 Russ Housley wrote: > I think it would be useful to put a text box on the ietf.org front > page that does the same search as https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/ >=20 > Is this easy or hard? This is very easy (no code needed), but see my reply to Glen=20 and Alexa below: Best regards, Pasi > -----Original Message----- > From: Eronen Pasi (Nokia-NRC/Helsinki) > Sent: 08 December, 2009 10:11 > To: 'ext Glen'; Alexa Morris > Cc: Russ Housley > Subject: RE: [IETF WEBSITE] New home page >=20 > This doesn't really need any code; the form on the main > page could just have an URL pointing to datatracker: >=20 >
> > > > >
>=20 > However, I'm NOT 100% sure if we want to advertise the "new tracker > UI" very widely yet. >=20 > There are couple of changes (at least making it work better without > JavaScript enabled, and caching the HTMLized draft texts to avoid > overloading the server) that I'd like to make before we announce > it for general use. I hope to have these done within the next > month or so. >=20 > Best regards, > Pasi > From housley@vigilsec.com Fri Dec 11 11:41:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144C23A69DA for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:41:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.345 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.345 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.254, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9f7D3mfSF63B for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:41:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2377E3A69A0 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:41:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A008CF24008; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:41:52 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0QuphCWSEiDI; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:41:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from THINKPADR52.vigilsec.com (pool-173-66-67-45.washdc.fios.verizon.net [173.66.67.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F715F24013; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:41:48 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:41:23 -0500 To: From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB774F31E7EBF2@NOK-EUMSG-01.mg dnok.nokia.com> References: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB774F31E7EBA1@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> <20091211165655.E77059A4728@odin.smetech.net> <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB774F31E7EBF2@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20091211194148.1F715F24013@odin.smetech.net> Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools status update X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:41:44 -0000 I'm not sure we want to expose this yet, but I have found it very useful. From the front page of the ietf.org website, I think that it should probably not provide a list of documents that are on tools.ietf.org, but rather the ones on ietf.org itself. Russ At 12:09 PM 12/11/2009, Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com wrote: >Russ Housley wrote: > > > I think it would be useful to put a text box on the ietf.org front > > page that does the same search as https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/ > > > > Is this easy or hard? > >This is very easy (no code needed), but see my reply to Glen >and Alexa below: > >Best regards, >Pasi > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Eronen Pasi (Nokia-NRC/Helsinki) > > Sent: 08 December, 2009 10:11 > > To: 'ext Glen'; Alexa Morris > > Cc: Russ Housley > > Subject: RE: [IETF WEBSITE] New home page > > > > This doesn't really need any code; the form on the main > > page could just have an URL pointing to datatracker: > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > However, I'm NOT 100% sure if we want to advertise the "new tracker > > UI" very widely yet. > > > > There are couple of changes (at least making it work better without > > JavaScript enabled, and caching the HTMLized draft texts to avoid > > overloading the server) that I'd like to make before we announce > > it for general use. I hope to have these done within the next > > month or so. > > > > Best regards, > > Pasi > > From housley@vigilsec.com Fri Dec 18 08:52:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0E03A680B for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:52:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.368 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.368 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.231, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iYtIEXx9vfwx for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:52:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493A33A67F1 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:52:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDCBF24004; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:31:28 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OaLhhvd221bk; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from THINKPADR52.vigilsec.com (pool-173-66-67-45.washdc.fios.verizon.net [173.66.67.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7867FF24008; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:31:27 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:31:15 -0500 To: tools-development@ietf.org From: Russ Housley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20091218163127.7867FF24008@odin.smetech.net> Cc: Julian Reschke , Carl Malamud , Marshall Rose Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Need volunteer for continued support of xml2rfc X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:52:12 -0000 We need a volunteer to take over the maintenance of xml2rfc. Is someone on this list interested? If not, where should we look for a volunteer? Russ >From: Marshall Rose >To: marshall.eubanks@gmail.com >Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:40:35 -0800 >Cc: trustees@ietf.org, Julian Reschke , > Carl Malamud >Subject: [Trustees] continued support of xml2rfc > >greetings. > >the 10 year anniversary of xml2rfc arrived this summer. it is fair to >say that i am no longer interested in supporting it. however, i am >informed that there are substantive number of incremental changes to >the boilerplate forthcoming. > >this may be problematic given that a substantive number of I-D (and >subsequent RFC) submissions are made using the tool. > >it is, of course, the trust's prerogative to make changes to the >boilerplate whenever you want; however, in the absence of changes to >the tool, to do so will dramatically increase manual processing of >submissions, reducing productivity and introducing errors. > >accordingly, i suggest that you identify alternative technical >resources to maintain xml2rfc, and that those resources are in place >prior to any change of the boilerplate. > >/mtr From julian.reschke@gmx.de Fri Dec 18 08:34:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152F33A6801 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:34:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.626 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.626 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.027, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O7J-EyuenPBS for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E06683A67A2 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:34:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Dec 2009 16:33:55 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.105]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp068) with SMTP; 18 Dec 2009 17:33:55 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18ILp89rk0IzhMzLUHxyIG2z25OT8Sab0yjD6ZX6Z js05v1mK8FT7fn Message-ID: <4B2BAEE9.8000106@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:33:45 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Housley References: <20091218163127.7867FF24008@odin.smetech.net> In-Reply-To: <20091218163127.7867FF24008@odin.smetech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.71 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:47:26 -0800 Cc: Carl Malamud , tools-development@ietf.org, Marshall Rose Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Need volunteer for continued support of xml2rfc X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:34:12 -0000 Russ Housley wrote: > We need a volunteer to take over the maintenance of xml2rfc. Is someone > on this list interested? If not, where should we look for a volunteer? > ... In particular, what's needed now is somebody with TCL skills; I can help maintaining the vocabulary (for instance, wrt the boilerplate changes). BR, Julian From lars.eggert@nokia.com Mon Dec 28 00:57:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2843A6863; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:57:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.497 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.497 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.102, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kqCv07hpUekU; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:57:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.tele.fi (smtp.tele.fi [192.89.123.25]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DF23A67EA; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:57:32 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-Ip: [212.213.221.241] Received: from host-241.nrln.net (host-241.nrln.net [212.213.221.241]) by smtp.tele.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED613BA; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:57:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.fit.nokia.com ([212.213.221.40]) by host-241.nrln.net (Lotus Domino Release 6.5) with ESMTP id 2009122811031613-2048 ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:03:16 +0200 Received: from lars.fritz.box (p54AE0733.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.174.7.51]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.fit.nokia.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBS8v491020730 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:57:05 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from lars.eggert@nokia.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) From: Lars Eggert In-Reply-To: <946839D1-D2BE-43CB-AA53-16A00D45D37C@nokia.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:57:04 +0100 Message-Id: <00417236-E6B2-4A88-9A97-C4D93FC6E2E5@nokia.com> References: <5CE10282-9BD0-40D8-BBC7-E6186DDD02F0@nokia.com> <69E1A0D7C5984894A0A717BF86ACE29A@your029b8cecfe> <53BD8FED9A654AD589F6A402CBFA7D12@your029b8cecfe> <4B2A2FB8.50705@cisco.com> <46B3D0E607249A8BCF187A11@PST.JCK.COM> <4B2A6A7A.8080902@cisco.com> <21A747EB-83DE-4B6E-B015-8391CACA8CB7@nokia.com> <8EF177F5-8247-4268-A804-B82C8BA3F737@nokia.com> <946839D1-D2BE-43CB-AA53-16A00D45D37C@nokia.com> To: tools-development@ietf.org, IESG Secretary X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (mail.fit.nokia.com [195.148.124.194]); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:57:06 +0200 (EET) X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on host-241/srv/nrln(Release 6.5|September 26, 2003) at 12/28/2009 11:03:16 AM, Serialize by Router on host-241/srv/nrln(Release 6.5|September 26, 2003) at 12/28/2009 11:03:16 AM, Serialize complete at 12/28/2009 11:03:16 AM Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-17-215583323; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Cc: "iesg@ietf.org IESG" Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] liaison tool X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:57:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail-17-215583323 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, tools team, last I checked, I could only sent on behalf of the IESG, but now it = looks like I can send on behalf of *anybody*, including other many SDOs = (huge list of groups in the popup, incl. many duplicates.) Tools issue? 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Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:17:35 -0800 (PST) References: <5CE10282-9BD0-40D8-BBC7-E6186DDD02F0@nokia.com> <69E1A0D7C5984894A0A717BF86ACE29A@your029b8cecfe> <53BD8FED9A654AD589F6A402CBFA7D12@your029b8cecfe> <4B2A2FB8.50705@cisco.com> <46B3D0E607249A8BCF187A11@PST.JCK.COM> <4B2A6A7A.8080902@cisco.com> <21A747EB-83DE-4B6E-B015-8391CACA8CB7@nokia.com> <8EF177F5-8247-4268-A804-B82C8BA3F737@nokia.com> <946839D1-D2BE-43CB-AA53-16A00D45D37C@nokia.com> <00417236-E6B2-4A88-9A97-C4D93FC6E2E5@nokia.com> Message-Id: <4AD7FC07-09A8-4DDC-B38F-18836D68D4AB@amsl.com> From: Glen To: Lars Eggert In-Reply-To: <00417236-E6B2-4A88-9A97-C4D93FC6E2E5@nokia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7D11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7D11) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:17:29 -0800 Cc: IESG Secretary , "tools-development@ietf.org" , "iesg@ietf.org IESG" Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] liaison tool X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:18:04 -0000 This one is ours. Can you email me privately with your current login/ pw so we can see what you see? I will have a programmer check it when we reopen next week. Thanks! Glen On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:57 AM, Lars Eggert wrote: > Hi, tools team, > > last I checked, I could only sent on behalf of the IESG, but now it > looks like I can send on behalf of *anybody*, including other many > SDOs (huge list of groups in the popup, incl. many duplicates.) > Tools issue? > > Lars > > On 2009-12-28, at 9:54, Lars Eggert wrote: >> On 2009-12-27, at 13:56, Adrian Farrel wrote: >>> There is a web tool for sending liaisons... >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/cgi-bin/ls/liaison_manager.cgi >> >> I know, but last I checked I could only sent on behalf of TSV and >> not on behalf of the entire IESG... > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development