From housley@vigilsec.com Wed May 12 14:13:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73593A6811 for ; Wed, 12 May 2010 14:13:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.113 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.113 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.486, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N76Q4LVN7FwP for ; Wed, 12 May 2010 14:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789FC3A67FD for ; Wed, 12 May 2010 14:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332579A473A for ; Wed, 12 May 2010 17:13:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r7L3kU1jqts3 for ; Wed, 12 May 2010 17:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.123] (pool-96-255-133-65.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.133.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FB59A472C for ; Wed, 12 May 2010 17:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4BEB19EE.1010301@vigilsec.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 17:13:18 -0400 From: Russ Housley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF Tools Development X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools change: IETF Announcements X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 21:13:25 -0000 Is this request an easy change or a hard one? Russ >>I really prefer viewing the datatracker version as compared to the >>documents in plain old text. Has there been any talk about replacing >>the link: >> >>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-foo.txt >> >>with >> >>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-foot >> >>in IETF-Announcement messages? From rpelletier@isoc.org Thu May 13 16:12:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321EF3A688F for ; Thu, 13 May 2010 16:12:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.381 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.381 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.383, BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yqEbdnzFeQNp for ; Thu, 13 May 2010 16:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp184.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp184.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.184]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7533A6901 for ; Thu, 13 May 2010 16:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6EEBC1B4105 for ; Thu, 13 May 2010 19:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay18.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 333C71B40F8 for ; Thu, 13 May 2010 19:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <22A9A806-D36B-45A0-8C94-A8EC2C963B63@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: tools-development@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-187--867601094 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) X-Priority: 1 Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 19:12:22 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Friday 14 May X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 23:12:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail-187--867601094 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All; There will be a Tools Committee call Friday at 11:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). WebEx details below. I will be attending my son's college graduation and will not be present. Draft Agenda: Tools Call 5-14-10 1. Bash the Agenda 2. Database Redesign 3. IT Work Plan - see below 4. WG & Author Front End Specs - status 5. Mission Critical Tools Transfer to Secretariat 6. Datatracker UI Updates: Screen Scraping Concerns 7. Maastricht Codesprint 8. Conte Update CafePress Store Code Sprint 9. Other Business ++++++++++ IT Projects Update 5-13-10 Q1 PM Starts Author & WG Spec Requirements RFP IDIQ MSAs executed with IOLA, Concentric Sky, Yaco Q2 Rolodex Development - AMS - DONE IESG Work Order (WO) - IOLA - In Work Author & WG WO - Awaiting Specs ID Submission Tool WO - Awaiting Bids Liaison Tool WO - Awaiting IAB input Area Management WO - AMS - Issued Group Management WO - AMS - approved, awaiting execution Proceedings WO - AMS Telechat Interface WO - AMS Alternate Streams Spec Dev RFP - under negotiation Q3 DB Conversion (Henrik) Database Conversion Tools WO IESG Update WO Draft Management WO - AMS RFC Management WO - AMS Meeting Management WO - AMS Q4 Author & WG Conversion Update WO Alternate Streams WO Session Management WO - AMS Announcement Management WO - AMS IDnits Interface WO - AMS IPR Interface WO - AMS Topic: Tools Cmte Date: Friday, May 14, 2010 Time: 11:00 am, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00) Meeting Number: 969 965 480 Meeting Password: (This meeting does not require a password.) ------------------------------------------------------- To join the online meeting (Now from iPhones too!) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=133839922&UID=0&RT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: (This meeting does not require a password.) 4. Click "Join". To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link: https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=133839922&UID=0&ORT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D ------------------------------------------------------- To join the audio conference only ------------------------------------------------------- To receive a call back, provide your phone number when you join the meeting, or call the number below and enter the access code. Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-699-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-792-6300 Global call-in numbers: https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/globalcallin.php?serviceType=MC&ED=133839922&tollFree=1 Toll-free dialing restrictions: http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf Access code:969 965 480 ------------------------------------------------------- For assistance ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". You can contact me at: rpelletier@isoc.org 1-703-652-9534 To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft Outlook), click this link: https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=133839922&UID=0&ICS=MI&LD=1&RD=2&ST=1&SHA2=Y1sSHrmIwb16LmUdiVLCdw2gfKZ9xFJfGiqI1DBWMww=&RT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D The playback of UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich media files requires appropriate players. To view this type of rich media files in the meeting, please check whether you have the players installed on your computer by going to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/systemdiagnosis.php Sign up for a free trial of WebEx http://www.webex.com/go/mcemfreetrial http://www.webex.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows audio and any documents and other materials exchanged or viewed during the session to be recorded. By joining this session, you automatically consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to the recording, do not join the session. --Apple-Mail-187--867601094 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All;

There = will be a Tools Committee call Friday at 11:00 AM EDT (UTC-4). =  WebEx details below.
I will be attending my son's = college graduation and will not be present. =  

Draft = Agenda:

Tools Call = 5-14-10

1.  Bash the = Agenda

2.  Database = Redesign

3.  IT Work Plan - see = below

4.  WG & Author Front End Specs = - status

5.  Mission Critical Tools = Transfer to Secretariat

6.  Datatracker UI = Updates: Screen Scraping Concerns

7. =  Maastricht Codesprint

8. Conte = Update
= CafePress Store
Code Sprint
=
9. Other = Business
++++++++++

IT Projects = Update 5-13-10

Q1
PM = Starts
= Author & WG Spec Requirements RFP
IDIQ MSAs = executed with IOLA, Concentric Sky, = Yaco

Q2
Rolodex Development - AMS - = DONE
= IESG Work Order (WO) - IOLA - In Work
Author = & WG WO - Awaiting Specs
ID Submission Tool WO - Awaiting = Bids
= Liaison Tool WO - Awaiting IAB = input

Area Management WO - AMS - = Issued
= Group Management WO - AMS - approved, awaiting = execution
Proceedings WO - = AMS
= Telechat Interface WO - AMS

Alternate = Streams Spec Dev RFP - under = negotiation

Q3
DB = Conversion (Henrik)
Database Conversion Tools = WO
= IESG Update WO

Draft = Management WO - AMS
RFC Management WO - = AMS
= Meeting Management WO - AMS
  =
Q4
Author & WG Conversion Update = WO
= Alternate Streams WO

Session = Management WO - AMS
Announcement Management WO - = AMS
= IDnits Interface WO - AMS
IPR Interface WO - = AMS





Topic: Tools Cmte 
Date: Friday, May 14, = 2010 
Time: 11:00 am, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, = GMT-04:00) 
Meeting Number: 969 965 480 
Meeting = Password: (This meeting does not require a = password.) 


----------------------------------------------= --------- 
To join the online meeting (Now from iPhones = too!) 
-------------------------------------------------------&nbs= p;
1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D1338399= 22&UID=3D0&RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D 
2. If requested, enter = your name and email address. 
3. If a password is required, = enter the meeting password: (This meeting does not require a = password.) 
4. Click "Join". 

To view in other time = zones or languages, please click the link: 
https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D1338399= 22&UID=3D0&ORT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D 

-------------------= ------------------------------------ 
To join the audio = conference = only 
------------------------------------------------------- = ;
To receive a call back, provide your phone number when you join the = meeting, or call the number below and enter the access = code. 
Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): = 1-866-699-3239 
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): = 1-408-792-6300 
Global call-in numbers: https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/globalcallin.php?s= erviceType=3DMC&ED=3D133839922&tollFree=3D1 
Toll-free= dialing restrictions: http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf&n= bsp;

Access code:969 965 = 480 

-------------------------------------------------------&n= bsp;
For = assistance 
------------------------------------------------------= - 
1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/mc 
2.= On the left navigation bar, click "Support". 

You can = contact me at: 
rpelletier@isoc.org 
1-703= -652-9534 

To add this meeting to your calendar program (for = example Microsoft Outlook), click this link: 
https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D1338399= 22&UID=3D0&ICS=3DMI&LD=3D1&RD=3D2&ST=3D1&SHA2=3DY1= sSHrmIwb16LmUdiVLCdw2gfKZ9xFJfGiqI1DBWMww=3D&RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D&nbs= p;

The playback of UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich = media files requires appropriate players. To view this type of rich = media files in the meeting, please check whether you have the players = installed on your computer by going to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/systemdiagnosis.ph= p 

Sign up for a free trial of WebEx 
http://www.webex.com/go/mcemfreetrial 

<= a href=3D"http://www.webex.com/" = target=3D"_blank">http://www.webex.com 



IMPORTANT = NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows audio and any = documents and other materials exchanged or viewed during the session to = be recorded. By joining this session, you automatically consent to such = recordings. If you do not consent to the recording, do not join the = session. 
= --Apple-Mail-187--867601094-- From glen@amsl.com Fri May 14 08:07:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578823A6B2F for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 08:07:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.277 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.277 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.722, BAYES_50=0.001, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZOvEZ8KRa6Pz for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 08:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [64.170.98.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8333C3A6B2B for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 08:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7FEE083A; Fri, 14 May 2010 08:06:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c1a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c1a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x2ChCn3RgyUK; Fri, 14 May 2010 08:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (173-8-133-91-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.133.91]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3860CE06A3; Fri, 14 May 2010 08:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <139EDE2C-D2A5-4DCB-8DE3-B1DA34D67358@amsl.com> From: "Glen Barney (AMS)" To: Ray Pelletier , Russ Housley , tools-development@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <173787980.1273767536588.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2wl011.webex.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--810337796; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" X-Priority: 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 08:06:45 -0700 References: <173787980.1273767536588.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2wl011.webex.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Meeting invitation: Tools Cmte X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:07:01 -0000 --Apple-Mail-3--810337796 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Still attempting to log in to the meeting, with no success. "I'm sorry, your entry 969965480 is not valid, or the meeting has not started yet." None of you are on iChat, so I'm wondering if this call got cancelled, and I didn't see it. I'll check back in in a bit. Glen On May 13, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > > Hello , > > Ray Pelletier invites you to attend this online meeting. > > Topic: Tools Cmte > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010 > Time: 11:00 am, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00) > Meeting Number: 969 965 480 > Meeting Password: (This meeting does not require a password.) > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > To join the online meeting (Now from iPhones too!) > ------------------------------------------------------- > 1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=133839922&UID=1124357247&RT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D > 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. > 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: (This > meeting does not require a password.) > 4. Click "Join". > > To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link: > https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=133839922&UID=1124357247&ORT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D > > ------------------------------------------------------- > To join the audio conference only > ------------------------------------------------------- > To receive a call back, provide your phone number when you join the > meeting, or call the number below and enter the access code. > Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-699-3239 > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-792-6300 > Global call-in numbers: https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/globalcallin.php?serviceType=MC&ED=133839922&tollFree=1 > Toll-free dialing restrictions: http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf > > Access code:969 965 480 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > For assistance > ------------------------------------------------------- > 1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/mc > 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". > > You can contact me at: > rpelletier@isoc.org > 1-703-652-9534 > > To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft > Outlook), click this link: > https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=133839922&UID=1124357247&ICS=MI&LD=1&RD=2&ST=1&SHA2=fPr1gIXNFqo9d2N/wUow5gj1jrXv/URWQla9Rrc2Tl0=&RT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D > > The playback of UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich media > files requires appropriate players. To view this type of rich media > files in the meeting, please check whether you have the players > installed on your computer by going to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/systemdiagnosis.php > > Sign up for a free trial of WebEx > http://www.webex.com/go/mcemfreetrial > > http://www.webex.com > > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows > audio and any documents and other materials exchanged or viewed > during the session to be recorded. 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<139EDE2C-D2A5-4DCB-8DE3-B1DA34D67358@amsl.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 08:11:10 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <82D680EA-67D0-44B6-A3CB-831C55A340B7@gmail.com> References: <173787980.1273767536588.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2wl011.webex.com> <139EDE2C-D2A5-4DCB-8DE3-B1DA34D67358@amsl.com> To: "Glen Barney (AMS)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Meeting invitation: Tools Cmte X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:11:33 -0000 Try again. Should be OK now. Bob On May 14, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Glen Barney (AMS) wrote: > Still attempting to log in to the meeting, with no success. >=20 > "I'm sorry, your entry 969965480 is not valid, or the meeting has not = started yet." >=20 > None of you are on iChat, so I'm wondering if this call got cancelled, = and I didn't see it. >=20 > I'll check back in in a bit. >=20 > Glen >=20 > On May 13, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> Hello , >>=20 >> Ray Pelletier invites you to attend this online meeting. >>=20 >> Topic: Tools Cmte >> Date: Friday, May 14, 2010 >> Time: 11:00 am, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00) >> Meeting Number: 969 965 480 >> Meeting Password: (This meeting does not require a password.) >>=20 >>=20 >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> To join the online meeting (Now from iPhones too!) >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> 1. Go to = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D133839922&UID=3D112435724= 7&RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D >> 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. >> 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: (This = meeting does not require a password.) >> 4. 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Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/mc >> 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". >>=20 >> You can contact me at: >> rpelletier@isoc.org >> 1-703-652-9534 >>=20 >> To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft = Outlook), click this link: >> = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D133839922&UID=3D112435724= 7&ICS=3DMI&LD=3D1&RD=3D2&ST=3D1&SHA2=3DfPr1gIXNFqo9d2N/wUow5gj1jrXv/URWQla= 9Rrc2Tl0=3D&RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D >>=20 >> The playback of UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich media = files requires appropriate players. To view this type of rich media = files in the meeting, please check whether you have the players = installed on your computer by going to = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/systemdiagnosis.php >>=20 >> Sign up for a free trial of WebEx >> http://www.webex.com/go/mcemfreetrial >>=20 >> http://www.webex.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows = audio and any documents and other materials exchanged or viewed during = the session to be recorded. By joining this session, you automatically = consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to the recording, do = not join the session. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From conte@isoc.org Fri May 14 08:52:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2158D3A6B29 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 08:52:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, GB_I_LETTER=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kGx3kGxjikaZ for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 08:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp124.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp124.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.124]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41DF3A68DF for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 08:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay32.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay32.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4EA0C1B622A for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 11:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay32.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: conte-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 362CF1B6200 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 11:52:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Conte Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 08:52:26 -0700 Message-Id: To: tools-development@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Team Teleconference Notes - 14 May 2010 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:52:38 -0000 Tools Call - 14 May 2010 Attendees: Bob Hinden Julian Reschke Steve Conte Henrik Levkowetz Russ Housley AMS Secretariat Glenn Barney Robert Sparks 1. Bash the Agenda - No Changes 2. Database Redesign HL: Not much change since last call. Mostly working with contractors. = Should continue within a week or so. RH: Status of if Henrik is right or Pasi HL: Work has mostly strengthened that Henrik is right, but not complete = yet 3. IT Work Plan - see below RH: IAOC updated based on IAOC retreat: broke it down to quarters=20 1st Q: - Henrik as Project Manager - Ed J on contract -- Docs delivered this week, updated yesterday - Entered into IDIQ contracts with 3 Django developers 2nd Q:=20 - AMS provided Rolodex project, two waves, only charged for one - IOLA first contract=20 - New work order to complete ID submissions tool, awaiting bids -- Question from a bidder, request Henrik to answer. HL ACKs - Work order bid to liaison tool -- originally planned for next year, but budget/time says we can move = forward - AMS: Area mgmt, group mgme, telechat=20 - RFP out to develop specs for IAOC, IAB and IRTF (alternate streams) Q3:=20 - Expecting DB conversion to be complete - Changes to IESG tracker -- IOLA working on converting from PERL to Django - AMS advance their contract to provide more support to IESG and IETF = functions Q4:=20 - Ed's work to get under work order - Alternate streams under work order -- moved to Q4 so conversion is complete, may be able to move these = forward if=20 conversion happens sooner - Additional work for AMS 4. WG & Author Front End Specs - status RH: mostly covered above 2 Drafts posted. Docs make up support of the frontend for the = datatracker 5. Mission Critical Tools Transfer to Secretariat GB: idnits complete, standing by for more rfcdiff and nomcom should be next can probably do them in parallel RH would like nomcom to be up and running before voting members of = nomcom are seated should be seated before Maastricht meeting GB: perception of idsubmission is mostly done, and work to vendors is = primarly to=20 finish it up. RH says mostly right, but work is a bit more than = originally thought. Django versions are different, etc HL: Conversion also has a number of flaws which haven't been addressed = yet. GB: AMS experiencing pain over existing tool and asks for expedite. RH = agrees 6. Datatracker UI Updates: Screen Scraping Concerns RH: when datatracker changed, no one has contacted RH about screen = scraping tool being damaged. Agreed to add interfaces if people complained. Jari's tools = broke, but didn't complain (unknown resolution). HL: Contacted by Jari about some things that couldn't be scraped. HL = added interfaces which should be out next release. RS: message from Jari that new tools will be out soon. =20 One comment back is that URI patterns may change as we move more and = more to datatracker style URIs. People don't necessarily want that and would like to see = the traditional URIs (even if handled by redirects) GB: Would be nice if we can keep it to a minimum as it may become = difficult to manage RH: Biggest concern is that people may point to things like msg archives = and want to=20 ensure that the legacy URLs continue to work HL: thinks ways can be worked out to continue to have legacy URLs = working. Biggest challenge will be to not regenerate mailman archives as it may renumber = messages BH: Useful to publish a list of redirects? GB: Maybe.. there's a few = ways to do it 7. Maastricht Codesprint Announcement made Wiki website up added sprint to list of events near IETF meeting SC to use his punchlist to coordinate room HL concerned that it may be too close to "dining area" which may impact = the ability to=20 stay focused RH it's the same room that will be used for Terminal Room and will push = back if there's=20 issues surrounding that 8. Conte Update CafePress Store SC: storeID still not available. Jorge Contreras drafted a = letter to Cafepress and SC provided dates and information. Letter to be sent soon. = Many dissatisfied with=20 Cafepress' lack of response/action as well as print limitations = and suggested that=20 it may be wise to look for alternative printing facilities. =09 Code Sprint Notes above in Item 7 =09 Asian Server Server in Japan should be up in the next few weeks. Masafumi = Oe-san said it should be ready mid-May and we're now entering that period =09 Deep Inventory application inventory will be posted to the wiki today. SC will = coordinate with HL where to associate the URL within the wiki =09 9. Other Business No AOB ++++++++++ IT Projects Update 5-13-10 Q1 PM Starts Author & WG Spec Requirements RFP IDIQ MSAs executed with IOLA, Concentric Sky, Yaco Q2 Rolodex Development - AMS - DONE IESG Work Order (WO) - IOLA - In Work Author & WG WO - Awaiting Specs ID Submission Tool WO - Awaiting Bids Liaison Tool WO - Awaiting IAB input Area Management WO - AMS - Issued Group Management WO - AMS - approved, awaiting execution Proceedings WO - AMS Telechat Interface WO - AMS Alternate Streams Spec Dev RFP - under negotiation Q3 DB Conversion (Henrik) Database Conversion Tools WO IESG Update WO Draft Management WO - AMS RFC Management WO - AMS Meeting Management WO - AMS =09 Q4 Author & WG Conversion Update WO Alternate Streams WO Session Management WO - AMS Announcement Management WO - AMS IDnits Interface WO - AMS IPR Interface WO - AMS ----- Steve Conte conte@isoc.org From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri May 14 11:30:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3506A28C147 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 11:30:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rCK-i6U1-Xru for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 11:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41F228C136 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 11:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-170-53.a212.priv.bahnhof.se ([85.24.170.53]:56062) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OCzdv-0003gH-4l; Fri, 14 May 2010 20:29:52 +0200 Message-ID: <4BED969E.10905@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 20:29:50 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Housley References: <4BEB19EE.1010301@vigilsec.com> In-Reply-To: <4BEB19EE.1010301@vigilsec.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 85.24.170.53 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: housley@vigilsec.com, tools-development@ietf.org, glen@amsl.com, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools change: IETF Announcements X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 18:30:16 -0000 Hi Russ, On 2010-05-12 23:13 Russ Housley said the following: > Is this request an easy change or a hard one? If I can find out where the text is composed before addition to the scheduled_announcements DB table, it's probably easy. I've been searching for this for a bit now, without success. I have managed to find code which is labelled as old unused with what appears to be part of the template for this, but not any actual code which has the template. Glen, do you happen to know where this lives? Henrik > Russ > > >>> I really prefer viewing the datatracker version as compared to the >>> documents in plain old text. Has there been any talk about replacing >>> the link: >>> >>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-foo.txt >>> >>> with >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-foot >>> >>> in IETF-Announcement messages? > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From glen@amsl.com Fri May 14 11:53:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFD93A6BF7 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 11:53:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.818 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.818 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.782, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3xiZrr-Kgw3k for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 11:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [64.170.98.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56773A687E for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 11:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DAEE08A8; Fri, 14 May 2010 11:53:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c1a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c1a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tHW0t3tCR7um; Fri, 14 May 2010 11:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.104] (173-8-133-91-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.133.91]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B7E50E072B; Fri, 14 May 2010 11:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BED9C3A.5070302@amsl.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 11:53:46 -0700 From: Glen Barney Organization: AMS User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <4BEB19EE.1010301@vigilsec.com> <4BED969E.10905@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4BED969E.10905@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools change: IETF Announcements X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 18:53:59 -0000 I do not know. I wonder if this is a secretariat cut-and-paste rather than an in-code thing. I'll ask them and let you know if I get any info on it. :-) Glen On 5/14/2010 11:29 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Russ, > > On 2010-05-12 23:13 Russ Housley said the following: >> Is this request an easy change or a hard one? > > If I can find out where the text is composed before addition to the > scheduled_announcements DB table, it's probably easy. I've been > searching for this for a bit now, without success. I have managed > to find code which is labelled as old unused with what appears to be > part of the template for this, but not any actual code which has > the template. > > Glen, do you happen to know where this lives? > > > Henrik > >> Russ >> >> >>>> I really prefer viewing the datatracker version as compared to the >>>> documents in plain old text. Has there been any talk about replacing >>>> the link: >>>> >>>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-foo.txt >>>> >>>> with >>>> >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-foot >>>> >>>> in IETF-Announcement messages? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From glen@amsl.com Fri May 14 16:04:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBA23A68AF for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 16:04:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.806 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.806 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.621, BAYES_40=-0.185, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3sZAEIgw+eQm for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 16:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [64.170.98.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070833A68AB for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 16:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D599E08A0; Fri, 14 May 2010 16:04:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c1a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c1a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yvb08wdYbTFK; Fri, 14 May 2010 16:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (173-8-133-91-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.133.91]) by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1C6DBE073B; Fri, 14 May 2010 16:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BEDD6F9.1050609@amsl.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 16:04:25 -0700 From: Glen Barney Organization: AMS User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <4BEB19EE.1010301@vigilsec.com> <4BED969E.10905@levkowetz.com> <4BED9C3A.5070302@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <4BED9C3A.5070302@amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools change: IETF Announcements X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 23:04:36 -0000 The messages come from two places. The ID Submission Tool sends one of the messages out, via auto_post.cgi and status.cgi. The Secretariat Tool sends the other message out via EmailAnnouncement.cfm and generatenotification.cfm. We could change the text in the ColdFusion code rather easily. However, in the case of the ID Submission Tool, the variables used to generate the email messages are also used for other things, and the code is not particularly clear as to what is done where. Since this is a wish, and not a crisis, and since new versions of both systems are coming soon, I recommend holding this request and making this change in the new code bases, rather than risking breakage now. Glen On 5/14/2010 11:53 AM, Glen Barney wrote: > I do not know. I wonder if this is a secretariat cut-and-paste rather > than an in-code thing. > > I'll ask them and let you know if I get any info on it. > > :-) > > Glen > > On 5/14/2010 11:29 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Hi Russ, >> >> On 2010-05-12 23:13 Russ Housley said the following: >>> Is this request an easy change or a hard one? >> >> If I can find out where the text is composed before addition to the >> scheduled_announcements DB table, it's probably easy. I've been >> searching for this for a bit now, without success. I have managed >> to find code which is labelled as old unused with what appears to be >> part of the template for this, but not any actual code which has >> the template. >> >> Glen, do you happen to know where this lives? >> >> >> Henrik >> >>> Russ >>> >>> >>>>> I really prefer viewing the datatracker version as compared to the >>>>> documents in plain old text. Has there been any talk about replacing >>>>> the link: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-foo.txt >>>>> >>>>> with >>>>> >>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-foot >>>>> >>>>> in IETF-Announcement messages? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> From lars.eggert@NOKIA.COM Fri May 14 23:39:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DD63A6813 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 23:39:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.39 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.39 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.650, BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BXoJ35Hoauwd for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 23:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-mx09.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.105.134]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD4D3A6407 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 23:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh105.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.211]) by mgw-mx09.nokia.com (Switch-3.3.3/Switch-3.3.3) with ESMTP id o4F6dbDd021428 for ; Sat, 15 May 2010 01:39:39 -0500 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 15 May 2010 09:39:38 +0300 Received: from mgw-sa02.ext.nokia.com ([147.243.1.48]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 15 May 2010 09:39:38 +0300 Received: from mail.fit.nokia.com (esdhcp030222.research.nokia.com [172.21.30.222]) by mgw-sa02.ext.nokia.com (Switch-3.3.3/Switch-3.3.3) with ESMTP id o4F6daXj022302 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 15 May 2010 09:39:37 +0300 From: Lars Eggert X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at fit.nokia.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 09:38:11 +0300 Message-Id: To: IETF Tools Development Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2010 06:39:38.0107 (UTC) FILETIME=[63D944B0:01CAF3F9] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] hi there X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 06:39:50 -0000 Hi, during Anaheim, I took over for Pasi as the IESG person on the team. It = took us a while to sort the list subscription, etc., out, so I'm not up = to speed yet with current projects. I do have a question, though: Would it be possible to find a different = time/day for the call? As far as I understand it, it's Friday evening = (my time), and any day would be better than Friday... Thanks, Lars= From henrik@levkowetz.com Sat May 15 04:54:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9443A6A60 for ; Sat, 15 May 2010 04:54:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.855 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.855 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.745, BAYES_05=-1.11, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yDYYG4V-RTBO for ; Sat, 15 May 2010 04:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286DC3A6A4C for ; Sat, 15 May 2010 04:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-170-53.a212.priv.bahnhof.se ([85.24.170.53]:49378) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ODFwO-00045E-Jf; Sat, 15 May 2010 13:54:00 +0200 Message-ID: <4BEE8B51.4000405@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 13:53:53 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eggert References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 85.24.170.53 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: lars.eggert@NOKIA.COM, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] hi there X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 11:54:20 -0000 On 2010-05-15 08:38 Lars Eggert said the following: > Hi, > > during Anaheim, I took over for Pasi as the IESG person on the team. > It took us a while to sort the list subscription, etc., out, so I'm > not up to speed yet with current projects. > > I do have a question, though: Would it be possible to find a > different time/day for the call? As far as I understand it, it's > Friday evening (my time), and any day would be better than Friday... That would be appreciated by me too. Although for me the call is one hour earlier local time than for Lars, it's still late on Friday, and sometimes one wants to get out of the city to some weekend activities a bit earlier Friday. Best, Henrik From henrik@levkowetz.com Mon May 17 05:44:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3AC3A6D0A for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 05:44:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1gqUKD89fJMr for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 05:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F0B3A6C95 for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 05:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:65361 helo=dyn-fg117.sth.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ODzbf-0001qR-UI; Mon, 17 May 2010 14:39:40 +0200 Message-ID: <4BF13904.7060604@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 14:39:32 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barney References: <4BEB19EE.1010301@vigilsec.com> <4BED969E.10905@levkowetz.com> <4BED9C3A.5070302@amsl.com> <4BEDD6F9.1050609@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <4BEDD6F9.1050609@amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0021E17CCB4E1FFC3D176052" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: glen@amsl.com, housley@vigilsec.com, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools change: IETF Announcements X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 12:44:39 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0021E17CCB4E1FFC3D176052 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Glen, Russ, On 2010-05-15 01:04 Glen Barney said: > The messages come from two places. The ID Submission Tool sends one of= > the messages out, via auto_post.cgi and status.cgi. The Secretariat > Tool sends the other message out via EmailAnnouncement.cfm and > generatenotification.cfm. >=20 > We could change the text in the ColdFusion code rather easily. However= , > in the case of the ID Submission Tool, the variables used to generate > the email messages are also used for other things, and the code is not > particularly clear as to what is done where. >=20 > Since this is a wish, and not a crisis, and since new versions of both > systems are coming soon, I recommend holding this request and making > this change in the new code bases, rather than risking breakage now. Agreed. If it was only the IDST I could change that, but coordinating the changes of both at this time seems the wrong place to spend energy. Best, Henrik > Glen >=20 > On 5/14/2010 11:53 AM, Glen Barney wrote: >> I do not know. I wonder if this is a secretariat cut-and-paste rather= >> than an in-code thing. >> >> I'll ask them and let you know if I get any info on it. >> >> :-) >> >> Glen >> >> On 5/14/2010 11:29 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>> Hi Russ, >>> >>> On 2010-05-12 23:13 Russ Housley said the following: >>>> Is this request an easy change or a hard one? >>> >>> If I can find out where the text is composed before addition to the >>> scheduled_announcements DB table, it's probably easy. I've been >>> searching for this for a bit now, without success. I have managed >>> to find code which is labelled as old unused with what appears to be >>> part of the template for this, but not any actual code which has >>> the template. >>> >>> Glen, do you happen to know where this lives? >>> >>> >>> Henrik >>> >>>> Russ >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I really prefer viewing the datatracker version as compared to the= >>>>>> documents in plain old text. Has there been any talk about replac= ing >>>>>> the link: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-foo.txt >>>>>> >>>>>> with >>>>>> >>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-foot >>>>>> >>>>>> in IETF-Announcement messages? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>> >=20 --------------enig0021E17CCB4E1FFC3D176052 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAkvxOQsACgkQeVhrtTJkXCPZXgCdFp+Vw+2oi1hre5VheABqgNL3 KVEAn3QFnGfGJCNBxQ6SGXMumYuTTjwD =nBo2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0021E17CCB4E1FFC3D176052-- From rpelletier@isoc.org Mon May 17 07:18:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0B93A6CEF for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 07:18:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.392 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.392 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.394, BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CSjcOXNb6BAM for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 07:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp174.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp174.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.174]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B89A28C0CE for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 07:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1193C1DEB28; Mon, 17 May 2010 10:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay7.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id BD6AB1DDB39; Mon, 17 May 2010 10:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <85226965-305A-40E4-A9C3-334BBEB37016@isoc.org> From: Ray Pelletier To: Henrik Levkowetz In-Reply-To: <4BEE8B51.4000405@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-212--554146580 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 10:16:36 -0400 References: <4BEE8B51.4000405@levkowetz.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: IETF Tools Development , Lars Eggert Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] hi there X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 14:18:51 -0000 --Apple-Mail-212--554146580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All; Let's see which day of the week and hour might work best for June. http://doodle.com/czat385wmt6imm9x Ray On May 15, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > > On 2010-05-15 08:38 Lars Eggert said the following: >> Hi, >> >> during Anaheim, I took over for Pasi as the IESG person on the team. >> It took us a while to sort the list subscription, etc., out, so I'm >> not up to speed yet with current projects. >> >> I do have a question, though: Would it be possible to find a >> different time/day for the call? As far as I understand it, it's >> Friday evening (my time), and any day would be better than Friday... > > That would be appreciated by me too. Although for me the call is one > hour earlier local time than for Lars, it's still late on Friday, and > sometimes one wants to get out of the city to some weekend activities > a bit earlier Friday. > > > Best, > > Henrik > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --Apple-Mail-212--554146580 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All;

Let's = see which day of the week and hour might work best for = June.


Ray


On May 15, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Henrik Levkowetz = wrote:



On 2010-05-15 08:38 Lars Eggert said the = following:
Hi,

during Anaheim, = I took over for Pasi as the IESG person on the = team.
It took us a while to = sort the list subscription, etc., out, so = I'm
not up to speed yet with = current projects.

I do have a = question, though: Would it be possible to find = a
different time/day for the = call? As far as I understand it, it's
Friday evening (my time), and any day would be better than = Friday...

That would be appreciated by me too. =  Although for me the call is one
hour earlier local time than = for Lars, it's still late on Friday, and
sometimes one wants to get = out of the city to some weekend activities
a bit earlier = Friday.


Best,

= Henrik
_______________________________________________
TOOLS-= DEVELOPMENT mailing list
TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org<= br>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development

= --Apple-Mail-212--554146580-- From henrik@levkowetz.com Mon May 17 08:11:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A403A6A76 for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 08:11:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.093 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.093 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.093, BAYES_40=-0.185, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LeciXjqhVzc3 for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 08:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB08E28C0FF for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 08:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:54160 helo=dyn-fg117.sth.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OE1y1-0007kA-AF; Mon, 17 May 2010 17:10:56 +0200 Message-ID: <4BF15C7C.8090109@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 17:10:52 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Pelletier References: <4BEE8B51.4000405@levkowetz.com> <85226965-305A-40E4-A9C3-334BBEB37016@isoc.org> In-Reply-To: <85226965-305A-40E4-A9C3-334BBEB37016@isoc.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rpelletier@isoc.org, lars.eggert@NOKIA.COM, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: IETF Tools Development , Lars Eggert Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] hi there X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 15:11:40 -0000 Hi Ray, I'm going to be on vacation from June 4th to June 18th, so no date in the June 7 - 9 range is going to be particularly good. I'm going to answer this as if the dates were for the week May 31st to June 4th, so that the poll can still be helpful in finding a time which would work for Lars and all more generally. Best, Henrik On 2010-05-17 16:16 Ray Pelletier said: > All; > > Let's see which day of the week and hour might work best for June. > > http://doodle.com/czat385wmt6imm9x > > Ray > > > On May 15, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > >> >> >> On 2010-05-15 08:38 Lars Eggert said the following: >>> Hi, >>> >>> during Anaheim, I took over for Pasi as the IESG person on the team. >>> It took us a while to sort the list subscription, etc., out, so I'm >>> not up to speed yet with current projects. >>> >>> I do have a question, though: Would it be possible to find a >>> different time/day for the call? As far as I understand it, it's >>> Friday evening (my time), and any day would be better than Friday... >> >> That would be appreciated by me too. Although for me the call is one >> hour earlier local time than for Lars, it's still late on Friday, and >> sometimes one wants to get out of the city to some weekend activities >> a bit earlier Friday. >> >> >> Best, >> >> Henrik >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > From bob.hinden@gmail.com Mon May 17 08:26:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89F428C19D for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 08:26:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.42 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.42 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.235, BAYES_40=-0.185] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rNTk2yr-r2f0 for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 08:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com (mail-ew0-f216.google.com [209.85.219.216]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8EB3A6A76 for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 08:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy8 with SMTP id 8so1925068ewy.28 for ; Mon, 17 May 2010 08:20:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=9xWkLU3iabvpzLzJUeIvYJRUQlwcZBI1TV+0U86F6C8=; b=Kh1rkzX8UJtX+LLs3uppWEStecODEnRAUV27xOW679pl+zM8W4iqzKDdDhCcF1vCzJ JKAHp+0oMjvFr9AgBSnjiJb0hOI5zmY3bBjCEX2csY8hESF49ZolKQ9ODIOVwo8JFQzV MHAacMXHEv7XGHHy6BchUsG8MiBSTPfgQwcDk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=ZLhUOk3WbZ4HnHqCiV5z4brldjYcNuxs+5eECYYvJ2+/pPh4HNrq7TM0DsufGRyxau 6u4mPm3cM3wO+htr2n2XbCudvK3ulqBVjoHCDMspb1E1BPrbQt+eKsnygQ1a+JvTgoVw VH2E4dbEJBBZKlF2+Ps+QiRSnRuE5U3/ZAGv8= Received: by 10.213.52.201 with SMTP id j9mr2587252ebg.87.1274109657353; Mon, 17 May 2010 08:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.37] (c-98-234-48-54.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [98.234.48.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm2840105ewy.13.2010.05.17.08.20.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 17 May 2010 08:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <85226965-305A-40E4-A9C3-334BBEB37016@isoc.org> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 08:20:50 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9E781246-C9B2-499A-954C-6C5063698384@gmail.com> References: <4BEE8B51.4000405@levkowetz.com> <85226965-305A-40E4-A9C3-334BBEB37016@isoc.org> To: Ray Pelletier X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: Henrik Levkowetz , Lars Eggert , IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] hi there X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 15:26:15 -0000 Ray, I responded to the poll, but also wanted to say that that week was = already busy for me. I would have more available time, if it was = another week or the next month. =20 Bob On May 17, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All; >=20 > Let's see which day of the week and hour might work best for June. >=20 > http://doodle.com/czat385wmt6imm9x >=20 > Ray >=20 >=20 > On May 15, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 2010-05-15 08:38 Lars Eggert said the following: >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> during Anaheim, I took over for Pasi as the IESG person on the team. >>> It took us a while to sort the list subscription, etc., out, so I'm >>> not up to speed yet with current projects. >>>=20 >>> I do have a question, though: Would it be possible to find a >>> different time/day for the call? As far as I understand it, it's >>> Friday evening (my time), and any day would be better than Friday... >>=20 >> That would be appreciated by me too. Although for me the call is one >> hour earlier local time than for Lars, it's still late on Friday, and >> sometimes one wants to get out of the city to some weekend activities >> a bit earlier Friday. >>=20 >>=20 >> Best, >>=20 >> Henrik >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Mon May 24 07:37:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20F53A688B for ; Mon, 24 May 2010 07:37:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.003, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N931Yf5--0ay for ; Mon, 24 May 2010 07:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (Hoffman.Proper.COM [207.182.41.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD923A6816 for ; Mon, 24 May 2010 07:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.158] (75-101-30-90.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [75.101.30.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4OEbYeq021350 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 24 May 2010 07:37:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 07:37:34 -0700 To: tools-development@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How can I find out what an address @tools.ietf.org is and maybe chage it? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 14:37:44 -0000 does not say what is stored in addresses like -chairs@tools.ietf.org or how to change it. I believe that one of them might be out of date, but have no way to verify. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue May 25 03:05:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976DC3A701E for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 03:05:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.648 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.648 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.952, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dU45aKgzsOAA for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 03:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCCC3A7078 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 03:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:55943 helo=dyn-fg117.sth.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OGr0d-0002sd-Dr; Tue, 25 May 2010 12:05:16 +0200 Message-ID: <4BFBA0DA.9020509@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 12:05:14 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hoffman References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: paul.hoffman@vpnc.org, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How can I find out what an address @tools.ietf.org is and maybe chage it? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 10:05:37 -0000 Hi Paul, On 2010-05-24 16:37 Paul Hoffman said: > does not say what is stored in addresses like -chairs@tools.ietf.org or how to change it. I believe that one of them might be out of date, but have no way to verify. Mmm. Right. Ok, it does now. The link for "Email aliases to draft authors and chairs" now points to the alias list. Best, Henrik From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Tue May 25 07:44:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B793A6B3B for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 07:44:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.42 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.42 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.974, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4VclNY2WrDD0 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 07:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (Hoffman.Proper.COM [207.182.41.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EA83A7148 for ; Tue, 25 May 2010 07:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.158] (75-101-30-90.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [75.101.30.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4PEh8gI094524 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 25 May 2010 07:43:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4BFBA0DA.9020509@levkowetz.com> References: <4BFBA0DA.9020509@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 07:40:15 -0700 To: Henrik Levkowetz From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How can I find out what an address @tools.ietf.org is and maybe chage it? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 14:44:32 -0000 At 12:05 PM +0200 5/25/10, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >Hi Paul, > >On 2010-05-24 16:37 Paul Hoffman said: > > does not say what is stored in addresses like -chairs@tools.ietf.org or how to change it. I believe that one of them might be out of date, but have no way to verify. > >Mmm. Right. Ok, it does now. The link for >"Email aliases to draft authors and chairs" now points to the >alias list. Excellent, thanks! --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From henrik@levkowetz.com Wed May 26 05:34:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166A83A68E9 for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 05:34:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XXaNdJOTFv50 for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 05:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC363A68CE for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 05:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:57959 helo=dyn-fg117.sth.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OHFoZ-0005Zz-Sj; Wed, 26 May 2010 14:34:29 +0200 Message-ID: <4BFD1553.2080301@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 14:34:27 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hoffman References: <4BFBA0DA.9020509@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: paul.hoffman@vpnc.org, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How can I find out what an address @tools.ietf.org is and maybe chage it? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 12:34:48 -0000 On 2010-05-25 16:40 Paul Hoffman said: > At 12:05 PM +0200 5/25/10, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Hi Paul, >> >> On 2010-05-24 16:37 Paul Hoffman said: >>> does not say what is stored in addresses like -chairs@tools.ietf.org or how to change it. I believe that one of them might be out of date, but have no way to verify. >> >> Mmm. Right. Ok, it does now. The link for >> "Email aliases to draft authors and chairs" now points to the >> alias list. I've removed the links again. Oonly hours after I created the links, a huge spam run targeted many of the aliases. It seems that at least some spam harvesters go wild at the sight of somehting formatted as an alias list. Henrik From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Wed May 26 07:18:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F943A66B4 for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 07:18:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WoBsZA8+tvL6 for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 07:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (Hoffman.Proper.COM [207.182.41.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74113A683F for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 07:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.158] (75-101-30-90.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [75.101.30.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4QEITgW011968 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 May 2010 07:18:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4BFD1553.2080301@levkowetz.com> References: <4BFBA0DA.9020509@levkowetz.com> <4BFD1553.2080301@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 07:18:29 -0700 To: Henrik Levkowetz From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How can I find out what an address @tools.ietf.org is and maybe chage it? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 14:18:41 -0000 At 2:34 PM +0200 5/26/10, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >On 2010-05-25 16:40 Paul Hoffman said: >> At 12:05 PM +0200 5/25/10, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> On 2010-05-24 16:37 Paul Hoffman said: >>>> does not say what is stored in addresses like -chairs@tools.ietf.org or how to change it. I believe that one of them might be out of date, but have no way to verify. >>> >>> Mmm. Right. Ok, it does now. The link for >>> "Email aliases to draft authors and chairs" now points to the >>> alias list. > >I've removed the links again. Oonly hours after I created the links, a huge >spam run targeted many of the aliases. It seems that at least some spam >harvesters go wild at the sight of somehting formatted as an alias list. Understood. Possibly put it behind a trivial program that makes one type in the name of the WG / draft in order to see the names that are expanded. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From henrik@levkowetz.com Wed May 26 08:42:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896543A68F2 for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 08:42:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Il4NcBVCsy5R for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 08:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8150C3A659A for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 08:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:64626 helo=dyn-fg117.sth.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OHIk3-0003Sn-5T; Wed, 26 May 2010 17:42:00 +0200 Message-ID: <4BFD4146.7090402@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:41:58 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hoffman References: <4BFBA0DA.9020509@levkowetz.com> <4BFD1553.2080301@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: paul.hoffman@vpnc.org, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How can I find out what an address @tools.ietf.org is and maybe chage it? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:42:18 -0000 > At 2:34 PM +0200 5/26/10, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: ... >> I've removed the links again. Oonly hours after I created the links, a huge >> spam run targeted many of the aliases. It seems that at least some spam >> harvesters go wild at the sight of somehting formatted as an alias list. > > Understood. > > Possibly put it behind a trivial program that makes one type in the > name of the WG / draft in order to see the names that are expanded. Yes, I thought of that, but that also takes time. I've now reverted again, to showing the links, but requiring users to log in to see them. Best, Henrik