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All;

Please suggest any Agenda items you'd like to see discussed.

Thanks
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All

A reminder of Wednesday's call at 11:00 AM EDT, UTC-4.  WebEx Details =
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Draft Agenda

0.  Code Sprint Results
1.  DB Conversion Update
2.  XML2RFC RFP
3.  Agenda Scheduling Tool
4.  Tool Cmte Tool WishList
5.  IT Projects Update
6.  Other

Ray


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I may be late (~15 min).  Please go ahead without me.

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On Apr 19, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote:

> All
>=20
> A reminder of Wednesday's call at 11:00 AM EDT, UTC-4.  WebEx Details =
below.
>=20
> Draft Agenda
>=20
> 0.  Code Sprint Results
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> 2.  XML2RFC RFP
> 3.  Agenda Scheduling Tool
> 4.  Tool Cmte Tool WishList
> 5.  IT Projects Update
> 6.  Other
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> Ray
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> Topic: Tools Cmte=20
> Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011=20
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Henrik:

I was looking forward to an update on the DB Conversion on this call.  =
Since you were not on the call, can you please post a status.

Russ


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Greetings,=20

Below is the notes from the tools call.  If you could look closely at =
item 5 to make sure I captured correctly the discussion of the WG =
Charter Tool v. the Milestone Management, I would appreciate it. =20

Thanks,

Steve


-----

IETF Tools Call - 20 April 2011

Attendees:

Ray Pelletier
Steve Conte
Alexa Morris
Julian Reschke
Glen Barney
Ryan Cross
Robert Sparks
Karen Moreland
Peter Saint-Andre
Russ Housley
Alice Hagens
Bob Hinden
Tony Hansen

Agenda:

0.  Code Sprint Results

RjS: No list prepared, can send a list of items achieved if needed
significant amount of new functionality
lots of work post-code sprint=20
10-12 participants
JR: Tony and JR worked on xml2rfc and made changes on that day=20
RH: Tony worked a long time after to get xml2rfc out=20
RP: would like to see a public update.. email or website for tools to =
get more
visibility
RH: Yes..  SC to get data from HL and RjS and build mockup

1.  DB Conversion Update

RH: IOLA is doing update.. broken the the work into several task orders. =
 All in so far
have been on schedule and under dollar
should be done (tooling) prior to Quebec City.  As it gets closer, =
decision on=20
conversion timeline will be decided
RP: Just began work order #4=20


2.  XML2RFC RFP

RP: RFP has been awarded and expecting work to begin in next week or so
HL to meet with team and set up time line for work=20

3.  Agenda Scheduling Tool

GB: working on specs for this
AM: specs are in progress, shouldn't be much longer. Spec draft should =
be ready=20
next week=20
defining boundries on what sched tool is supposed to do=20
RjS: Adam has a PoC built to show moving items within a schedule and =
reflecting
conflicts

4.  Tool Cmte Tool WishList

Current wishlist is maintained at AMS and some of it in the code sprint =
pages


5.  IT Projects Update

RP: completed: 4, In work: 10
In work: Front end is under contract, waiting for acceptance from WG =
chairs
RH: will deploy real soon.
RP: WG Charter Tool specs: milestones management..=20
RH: during development of iesg charter tool, it became clear that there =
were different
models on how a charter works.  Composed of 2 parts; 1) description of =
work (prose), and
2) milestones.. managed by AD.  the database behind is that for each =
milestone there is a=20
db record and a db record for prose.  chartering is all about prose.  AD =
can manage=20
milestones without other AD approval. to develop separate spec for =
milestone management=20
as second step to allow milestone management to be done by WG chairs.
RP: initial scope of work will go to development, will not be waiting =
for charter milestone
management work to delay tool development=20
Back End Spec Req: in last call=20


6.  Other



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On today's call, there was a request for what was accomplished at/after =
the codesprint.

You can see summary of what was accepted into the datatracker at
<http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/changelog>

The majority of the activity of the sprint is at v3.14 - you can also =
derive a subset of the
participants of the sprint from that log. Note that some of the content =
in later releases
were a direct result of sprinter contributions during and after the IETF =
meeting.

As Julian pointed out, it does _not_ capture non-datatracker oriented =
contributions.

Julian or Tony - is there a similar log to point to for xml2rfc =
development work?

Henrik - was there activity on any other projects that the logs from the =
ietfdb system and the xml2rfc project won't reflect?

RjS

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> 3.  Agenda Scheduling Tool
> 4.  Tool Cmte Tool WishList
> 5.  IT Projects Update
> 6.  Other
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Steve:

I guess my main point did not come through.  Current specification will =
manage the prose part of the charter -- and its approval process.  =
Another spec will be developed for the management of milestones, which =
will probably include more delegation to WG chairs

Russ


On Apr 20, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Steve Conte wrote:

> Greetings,=20
>=20
> Below is the notes from the tools call.  If you could look closely at =
item 5 to make sure I captured correctly the discussion of the WG =
Charter Tool v. the Milestone Management, I would appreciate it. =20
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Steve
>=20
>=20
> -----
>=20
> IETF Tools Call - 20 April 2011
>=20
> Attendees:
>=20
> Ray Pelletier
> Steve Conte
> Alexa Morris
> Julian Reschke
> Glen Barney
> Ryan Cross
> Robert Sparks
> Karen Moreland
> Peter Saint-Andre
> Russ Housley
> Alice Hagens
> Bob Hinden
> Tony Hansen
>=20
> Agenda:
>=20
> 0.  Code Sprint Results
>=20
> RjS: No list prepared, can send a list of items achieved if needed
> significant amount of new functionality
> lots of work post-code sprint=20
> 10-12 participants
> JR: Tony and JR worked on xml2rfc and made changes on that day=20
> RH: Tony worked a long time after to get xml2rfc out=20
> RP: would like to see a public update.. email or website for tools to =
get more
> visibility
> RH: Yes..  SC to get data from HL and RjS and build mockup
>=20
> 1.  DB Conversion Update
>=20
> RH: IOLA is doing update.. broken the the work into several task =
orders.  All in so far
> have been on schedule and under dollar
> should be done (tooling) prior to Quebec City.  As it gets closer, =
decision on=20
> conversion timeline will be decided
> RP: Just began work order #4=20
>=20
>=20
> 2.  XML2RFC RFP
>=20
> RP: RFP has been awarded and expecting work to begin in next week or =
so
> HL to meet with team and set up time line for work=20
>=20
> 3.  Agenda Scheduling Tool
>=20
> GB: working on specs for this
> AM: specs are in progress, shouldn't be much longer. Spec draft should =
be ready=20
> next week=20
> defining boundries on what sched tool is supposed to do=20
> RjS: Adam has a PoC built to show moving items within a schedule and =
reflecting
> conflicts
>=20
> 4.  Tool Cmte Tool WishList
>=20
> Current wishlist is maintained at AMS and some of it in the code =
sprint pages
>=20
>=20
> 5.  IT Projects Update
>=20
> RP: completed: 4, In work: 10
> In work: Front end is under contract, waiting for acceptance from WG =
chairs
> RH: will deploy real soon.
> RP: WG Charter Tool specs: milestones management..=20
> RH: during development of iesg charter tool, it became clear that =
there were different
> models on how a charter works.  Composed of 2 parts; 1) description of =
work (prose), and
> 2) milestones.. managed by AD.  the database behind is that for each =
milestone there is a=20
> db record and a db record for prose.  chartering is all about prose.  =
AD can manage=20
> milestones without other AD approval. to develop separate spec for =
milestone management=20
> as second step to allow milestone management to be done by WG chairs.
> RP: initial scope of work will go to development, will not be waiting =
for charter milestone
> management work to delay tool development=20
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Hi Russ,

On 2011-04-20 17:27 Russ Housley said the following:
> Henrik:
>
> I was looking forward to an update on the DB Conversion on this call.
> Since you were not on the call, can you please post a status.

Ahh.  I'm sorry.  (I was on a scheduled trip at this time, but actually
thought the reminder from my phone was related toanother meeting.)

I don't have much news from IOLA, as they are just getting started with
the next work order (#4).  They estimate that at 100 hours, which should
mean ~3 weeks.

I have been working on the remaining models (those for meetings and proceedings)
and have a rough idea of how things should look.  I will complete that work this
week, and commit the new models to the repository and send them to IOLA.

I've also gone over the remaining active scripts, and sorted out some of
those as very likely *not* in use any more; I've also turned over a list
of scripts which need verification to Glen and Cindy.  I hope to get a
reply to that, indicating which of the active scripts are actually active
also during this week.


Best,

	Henrik


> Russ
>
>
> On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote:
>
>> All
>>
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>>
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>>
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>> 2.  XML2RFC RFP
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>> 4.  Tool Cmte Tool WishList
>> 5.  IT Projects Update
>> 6.  Other
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
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On 20.04.2011 17:28, Robert Sparks wrote:
> On today's call, there was a request for what was accomplished at/after the codesprint.
>
> You can see summary of what was accepted into the datatracker at
> <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/changelog>
>
> The majority of the activity of the sprint is at v3.14 - you can also derive a subset of the
> participants of the sprint from that log. Note that some of the content in later releases
> were a direct result of sprinter contributions during and after the IETF meeting.
>
> As Julian pointed out, it does _not_ capture non-datatracker oriented contributions.
>
> Julian or Tony - is there a similar log to point to for xml2rfc development work?
> ...

<http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/timeline>, leading to the 
release of 1.36, which is online at <http://xml.resource.org/>.

Best regards, Julian

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Thanks for the update.


On Apr 20, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:

> Hi Russ,
>=20
> On 2011-04-20 17:27 Russ Housley said the following:
>> Henrik:
>>=20
>> I was looking forward to an update on the DB Conversion on this call.
>> Since you were not on the call, can you please post a status.
>=20
> Ahh.  I'm sorry.  (I was on a scheduled trip at this time, but =
actually
> thought the reminder from my phone was related toanother meeting.)
>=20
> I don't have much news from IOLA, as they are just getting started =
with
> the next work order (#4).  They estimate that at 100 hours, which =
should
> mean ~3 weeks.
>=20
> I have been working on the remaining models (those for meetings and =
proceedings)
> and have a rough idea of how things should look.  I will complete that =
work this
> week, and commit the new models to the repository and send them to =
IOLA.
>=20
> I've also gone over the remaining active scripts, and sorted out some =
of
> those as very likely *not* in use any more; I've also turned over a =
list
> of scripts which need verification to Glen and Cindy.  I hope to get a
> reply to that, indicating which of the active scripts are actually =
active
> also during this week.
>=20
>=20
> Best,
>=20
> 	Henrik
>=20
>=20
>> Russ
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote:
>>=20
>>> All
>>>=20
>>> A reminder of Wednesday's call at 11:00 AM EDT, UTC-4.  WebEx =
Details below.
>>>=20
>>> Draft Agenda
>>>=20
>>> 0.  Code Sprint Results
>>> 1.  DB Conversion Update
>>> 2.  XML2RFC RFP
>>> 3.  Agenda Scheduling Tool
>>> 4.  Tool Cmte Tool WishList
>>> 5.  IT Projects Update
>>> 6.  Other
>>>=20
>>> Ray
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Topic: Tools Cmte
>>> Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011
>>> Time: 11:00 am, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)
>>> Meeting Number: 960 837 026
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>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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MxMQ%3D%3D
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>>> 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: (This =
meeting does not require a password.)
>>> 4. Click "Join".
>>>=20
>>> To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link:
>>> =
https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D152402617&UID=3D0&ORT=3DM=
iMxMQ%3D%3D
>>>=20
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>>> CCP:+14087926300x960837026#
>>>=20
>>> IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows =
audio and any documents and other materials exchanged or viewed during =
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recordings may be subject to discovery in the event of litigation.
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>=20
>>=20


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Hi,

An oddity.

Have a look at the history at
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-explicit-resource-control-bundle
/history/

You'll see that a new revision was posted "just in time" but the dastardly
tracker decided to time out the previous version and mark the whole thing Dead.

Now the "current" version is the previous one.

Cheers,
Adrian


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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:11:14 +0100
From: Adrian Farrel <Adrian.Farrel@huawei.com>
To: 'Henrik Levkowetz' <henrik@levkowetz.com>, "'Emilio A. Sanchez Lopez'" <esanchez@yaco.es>
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Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Oh dear, Another tracker defect?
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draft-ietf-roll-security-framework was in IESG Evaluation::Revised ID Needed 

A new version was posted, and I would have expected the state to automatically
transition to IESG Evaluation::AD Followup

But the I-D seems to be stuck in the previous state.

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-security-framework/history/

Thanks,
Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henrik Levkowetz [mailto:henrik@levkowetz.com]
> Sent: 29 April 2011 14:52
> To: Emilio A. Sanchez Lopez
> Cc: 'Adrian Farrel'
> Subject: Fwd: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tracker defect
> 
> Hi Emilio,
> 
> See the message below, and the page referred.  Could it be that drafts
> posted using the new submission tool don't re-set the time at which a
> draft will expire?
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> 	Henrik
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tracker defect
> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:52:54 +0100
> From: Adrian Farrel <Adrian.Farrel@huawei.com>
> Reply-To: Adrian.Farrel@huawei.com
> To: tools-development@ietf.org
> CC: iesg@ietf.org, action@ietf.org
> 
> Hi,
> 
> An oddity.
> 
> Have a look at the history at
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-explicit-resource-control-
> bundle/history/
> 
> You'll see that a new revision was posted "just in time" but the dastardly
> tracker decided to time out the previous version and mark the whole thing
Dead.
> 
> Now the "current" version is the previous one.
> 
> Cheers,
> Adrian
> 
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