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The IETF Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) plans to issue a Request for Proposal (RFP) in November for a
vendor to develop the IETF Meeting Agenda Scheduling Tool.  To that end the IAOC invites community comments on the 
draft Statement of Work (SOW) that is located at <http://iaoc.ietf.org/rfpsrfis.html>.

The community comment period ends 14 November 2011. The IAOC will consider all comments it receives during that period.

The SOW describes the requirements for a Secretariat Meeting Agenda creation tool. The agenda tool will handle all meeting 
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REMINDER

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draft Statement of Work (SOW) that is located at <http://iaoc.ietf.org/rfpsrfis.html>.

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The IAOC published an RFP for the development of functional specifications for Remote Participation Services on 19 October 
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More information about the project can be found in the SOW at:  <http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/RPS-Specifications-RFP-2011-10-19.pdf>.

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Hi,

I suspect this problem cut in at a specific recent date.

The recently published RFCs show in a new "Old Drafts" section rather than as
published RFCs. 

I'm guessing some link from I-D to RFC (or vice versa) is missing.

Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> All,
> 
> there is something odd with the mpls wg datatracker page.
> 
> We have a new heading "Old Internet Drafts", all them pointing
> to published RFCs, but when u click on the RFC number you
> get to a "Not found page". Everyone of our latest published
> RFCs are missing.
> 
> What happened?
> 
> /Loa
> --
> 
> 
> Loa Andersson                         email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com
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Hi,

I've looked at these:

  http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls/
  http://tools.ietf.org/wg/mpls/

without finding the phenomenon you mention.  Could you clue me in on
where (which URL) you're seeing this?


	Henrik


On 2011-11-08 23:02 Adrian Farrel said:
> Hi,
>=20
> I suspect this problem cut in at a specific recent date.
>=20
> The recently published RFCs show in a new "Old Drafts" section rather t=
han as
> published RFCs.=20
>=20
> I'm guessing some link from I-D to RFC (or vice versa) is missing.
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> Adrian
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Sent: 08 November 2011 21:11
>> To: IETF-IESG via RT; Adrian Farrel; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; Marti=
n
> Vigoureux
>> Subject: What is this???
>>
>> All,
>>
>> there is something odd with the mpls wg datatracker page.
>>
>> We have a new heading "Old Internet Drafts", all them pointing
>> to published RFCs, but when u click on the RFC number you
>> get to a "Not found page". Everyone of our latest published
>> RFCs are missing.
>>
>> What happened?
>>
>> /Loa
>> --
>>
>>
>> Loa Andersson                         email: loa.andersson@ericsson.co=
m
>> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager            loa@pi.nu
>> Ericsson Inc                          phone: +46 10 717 52 13
>>                                               +46 767 72 92 13
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Oh, very interesting!

I was at http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls/

The problem has "cured itself"

This is clearly a transitory problem as I-Ds move from auth-48 to published
RFCs.

A


> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 09 November 2011 14:40
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've looked at these:
> 
>   http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls/
>   http://tools.ietf.org/wg/mpls/
> 
> without finding the phenomenon you mention.  Could you clue me in on
> where (which URL) you're seeing this?
> 
> 
> 	Henrik
> 
> 
> On 2011-11-08 23:02 Adrian Farrel said:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I suspect this problem cut in at a specific recent date.
> >
> > The recently published RFCs show in a new "Old Drafts" section rather than
as
> > published RFCs.
> >
> > I'm guessing some link from I-D to RFC (or vice versa) is missing.
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu]
> >> Sent: 08 November 2011 21:11
> >> To: IETF-IESG via RT; Adrian Farrel; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; Martin
> > Vigoureux
> >> Subject: What is this???
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> there is something odd with the mpls wg datatracker page.
> >>
> >> We have a new heading "Old Internet Drafts", all them pointing
> >> to published RFCs, but when u click on the RFC number you
> >> get to a "Not found page". Everyone of our latest published
> >> RFCs are missing.
> >>
> >> What happened?
> >>
> >> /Loa
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> Loa Andersson                         email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com
> >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager            loa@pi.nu
> >> Ericsson Inc                          phone: +46 10 717 52 13
> >>                                               +46 767 72 92 13
> >
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Hi Loa,

On 2011-11-17 15:31 Loa Andersson said the following:
> Henrik,
>
> u can look at the mpls page now

Didn't catch it, sorry.  I should be able to work out what the problem
is if you can take a screen dump for me next time you see it?

Best regards,

	Henrik

> /Loa
>
> On 2011-11-09 22:40, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've looked at these:
>>
>>     http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls/
>>     http://tools.ietf.org/wg/mpls/
>>
>> without finding the phenomenon you mention.  Could you clue me in on
>> where (which URL) you're seeing this?
>>
>>
>> 	Henrik
>>
>>
>> On 2011-11-08 23:02 Adrian Farrel said:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I suspect this problem cut in at a specific recent date.
>>>
>>> The recently published RFCs show in a new "Old Drafts" section rather than as
>>> published RFCs.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing some link from I-D to RFC (or vice versa) is missing.
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu]
>>>> Sent: 08 November 2011 21:11
>>>> To: IETF-IESG via RT; Adrian Farrel; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; Martin
>>> Vigoureux
>>>> Subject: What is this???
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> there is something odd with the mpls wg datatracker page.
>>>>
>>>> We have a new heading "Old Internet Drafts", all them pointing
>>>> to published RFCs, but when u click on the RFC number you
>>>> get to a "Not found page". Everyone of our latest published
>>>> RFCs are missing.
>>>>
>>>> What happened?
>>>>
>>>> /Loa
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Loa Andersson                         email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com
>>>> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager            loa@pi.nu
>>>> Ericsson Inc                          phone: +46 10 717 52 13
>>>>                                                 +46 767 72 92 13
>>>
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Hi Cindy,

On 2011-11-17 17:21 Cindy Morgan said the following:
> There were three RFCs that were announced a couple of hours ago (6427,
> 6428, 6435).  Were those the docs showing up under "Old Drafts"?
> Because if that's the case, it may be that that's how the drafts are
> listed in the time between when the draft is announced and when the
> secretariat changes the doc state to RFC Published and creates the RFC
> record (which I have just done).

That makes sense, and narrows the area I need to look at.  Thanks!

>  Since that's a manual process, the
> time between when the RFC is announced and when we create the record
> can vary, especially if RFCs are announced during non-regular business
> hours.

Understood.

Best regards,

	Henrik

> Best regards,
> Cindy
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>
>> Hi Loa,
>>
>> On 2011-11-17 15:31 Loa Andersson said the following:
>>> Henrik,
>>>
>>> u can look at the mpls page now
>>
>> Didn't catch it, sorry.  I should be able to work out what the problem
>> is if you can take a screen dump for me next time you see it?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> 	Henrik
>>
>>> /Loa
>>>
>>> On 2011-11-09 22:40, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I've looked at these:
>>>>
>>>>     http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls/
>>>>     http://tools.ietf.org/wg/mpls/
>>>>
>>>> without finding the phenomenon you mention.  Could you clue me in on
>>>> where (which URL) you're seeing this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 	Henrik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2011-11-08 23:02 Adrian Farrel said:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect this problem cut in at a specific recent date.
>>>>>
>>>>> The recently published RFCs show in a new "Old Drafts" section
>>>>> rather than as
>>>>> published RFCs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm guessing some link from I-D to RFC (or vice versa) is missing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu]
>>>>>> Sent: 08 November 2011 21:11
>>>>>> To: IETF-IESG via RT; Adrian Farrel; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org;
>>>>>> Martin
>>>>> Vigoureux
>>>>>> Subject: What is this???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> there is something odd with the mpls wg datatracker page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have a new heading "Old Internet Drafts", all them pointing
>>>>>> to published RFCs, but when u click on the RFC number you
>>>>>> get to a "Not found page". Everyone of our latest published
>>>>>> RFCs are missing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happened?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Loa
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Loa Andersson                         email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com
>>>>>> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager            loa@pi.nu
>>>>>> Ericsson Inc                          phone: +46 10 717 52 13
>>>>>>                                                 +46 767 72 92 13
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development
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