From rpelletier@isoc.org Fri Jun 8 08:42:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5960D21F8932 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 08:42:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.329 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.329 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.270, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ALNvGTU149Nu for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 08:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp164.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp164.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.164]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB51621F85F7 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 08:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp46.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 38DF0E854E for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:42:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp46.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 21629E8549 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:42:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Ray Pelletier Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:42:40 -0400 Message-Id: <4767781B-0478-4E3A-9628-4F916A868613@isoc.org> To: tools-development@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call 13 June X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:42:42 -0000 All A reminder that the Tools Call will be held Wednesday 13 June at 11:00 = AM ET. WebEx details to follow. Draft Agenda: 1. Vancouver Code Sprint - Robert 2. DB Cutover Update - Henrik 3. Tools Awaiting Deployment - Henrik Community ID Tracking Tool WG Charter 4. Projects in Work Update - Henrik Charter Milestone Management Development - IOLA Back End Development - IOLA NomCom Tool Specs - Suresh Remote Participation Services Spec Dev - Hoffman 4. RFPs - Agenda Scheduling and Mail Archive - Ray 5. AOB Ray From rpelletier@isoc.org Mon Jun 11 01:11:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B675F21F8522 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:11:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IxCVLMQ5Q8Xz for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.134]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCF321F8516 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp23.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0C1BE34814E for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:11:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp23.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id D2F4F34812F for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:11:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Ray Pelletier Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-122-317853774 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:11:46 -0400 X-Priority: 3 References: <21580100.1339379113004.JavaMail.nobody@jva2wl002.webex.com> To: tools-development@ietf.org Message-Id: <09523A2A-1DA4-45A9-8868-C79D595DF7D7@isoc.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: (Forward to attendees) Meeting invitation: Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:11:49 -0000 --Apple-Mail-122-317853774 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Begin forwarded message: > From: Ray Pelletier > Date: June 10, 2012 9:45:13 PM EDT > To: rpelletier@isoc.org > Subject: (Forward to attendees) Meeting invitation: Tools Call > Reply-To: rpelletier@isoc.org >=20 >=20 > **** You can forward this email invitation to attendees ****=20 >=20 > Hello ,=20 >=20 > Ray Pelletier invites you to attend this online meeting.=20 >=20 > Topic: Tools Call=20 > Date: Wednesday, June 13, 2012=20 > Time: 11:00 am, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)=20 > Meeting Number: 645 201 468=20 > Meeting Password: Tools=20 >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------=20 > To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)=20 > -------------------------------------------------------=20 > 1. Go to = https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?ED=3D154898072&UID=3D0&PW=3DNNWZlOTczZmI= 5&RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D=20 > 2. If requested, enter your name and email address.=20 > 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Tools=20 > 4. Click "Join".=20 >=20 > To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link:=20 > = https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?ED=3D154898072&UID=3D0&PW=3DNNWZlOTczZmI= 5&ORT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------=20 > To join the audio conference only=20 > -------------------------------------------------------=20 > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1-408-600-3600=20 >=20 > Access code:645 201 468=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------=20 > For assistance=20 > -------------------------------------------------------=20 > 1. Go to https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/mc=20 > 2. 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= --Apple-Mail-122-317853774-- From housley@vigilsec.com Mon Jun 11 09:40:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472A721F856D for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:40:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1Oy5iZs1FcBi for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7A821F85A5 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C23B9A4724 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:40:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OznBalKHBktS for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.110] (pool-96-255-37-161.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.37.161]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DA89A470F for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:40:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:39:59 -0400 Message-Id: <85E52302-8F96-4DE2-99A5-0DC3DF9B7ED4@vigilsec.com> To: IETF Tools Development Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Bug Report: Incorrectly determines if the document is on a telechat agenda X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:40:10 -0000 h= ttps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farrresnickel-ipr-sanctions/edit/bal= lotwriteupnotes/ When I went to issues the ballot, I was told that the document was not = on any agenda. However, it is. Russ From henrik@levkowetz.com Mon Jun 11 13:09:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD51111E808F for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:09:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VFGEFroH2B7R for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31::14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06AF611E808E for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h225n11-s-oev-d2.ias.bredband.telia.com ([2.248.171.225]:63985 helo=vigonier.lan) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SeAvV-0007Af-H6; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:09:26 +0200 Message-ID: <4FD6506D.7060208@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:09:17 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Housley References: <85E52302-8F96-4DE2-99A5-0DC3DF9B7ED4@vigilsec.com> In-Reply-To: <85E52302-8F96-4DE2-99A5-0DC3DF9B7ED4@vigilsec.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2.248.171.225 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: housley@vigilsec.com, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:57:07 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Bug Report: Incorrectly determines if the document is on a telechat agenda X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:09:39 -0000 Hi Russ, On 2012-06-11 18:39 Russ Housley said the following: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farrresnickel-ipr-sanctions/edit/ballotwriteupnotes/ > > When I went to issues the ballot, I was told that the document was > not on any agenda. However, it is. Ok, that sounds like a bug, all right. I've just deployed a new release, v4.20; could I ask you to check whether the bug is still present? Best regards, Henrik From rjsparks@nostrum.com Mon Jun 11 14:00:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F49921F8573 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:00:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.45 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.151, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bf4tr4UVLXZx for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC20C21F856D for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dn3-177.estacado.net (vicuna-alt.estacado.net [75.53.54.121]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5BL09DU039858 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:00:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <4FD65C56.9090307@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:00:06 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <85E52302-8F96-4DE2-99A5-0DC3DF9B7ED4@vigilsec.com> <4FD6506D.7060208@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4FD6506D.7060208@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 75.53.54.121 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Bug Report: Incorrectly determines if the document is on a telechat agenda X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:00:16 -0000 I can recreate it - it's still there. Will follow up with you and Russ directly. RjS On 6/11/12 3:09 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Russ, > > On 2012-06-11 18:39 Russ Housley said the following: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farrresnickel-ipr-sanctions/edit/ballotwriteupnotes/ >> >> When I went to issues the ballot, I was told that the document was >> not on any agenda. However, it is. > Ok, that sounds like a bug, all right. > > I've just deployed a new release, v4.20; could I ask you to check whether > the bug is still present? > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From rjsparks@nostrum.com Thu Jun 28 14:35:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1662121F857A for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:35:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PFIxoCqvESD5 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E974C21F8573 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unexplicable.local (pool-173-71-51-177.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [173.71.51.177]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5SLZihb087849 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:35:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <4FECCE31.3060502@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:35:45 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-development@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 173.71.51.177 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Urgent tickets in [ietfdb]: What's the current situation with these and how do we keep them from getting this old? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:35:49 -0000 There are two tickets in the ietfdb system that shouldn't be as old as they are: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/842 http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/843 Is there activity on getting them resolved being tracked somewhere else? I'm trying to follow up on them. 843 is probably OBE. Cindy says Matt was trying to post before 4.21 was deployed, and the draft he was trying to post is posted now. 842 is still a problem - I get a crash from the server trying to look at the sunset4 charter. What can we do to make sure reports like these land in a place where they get prompt attention? RjS From henrik@levkowetz.com Thu Jun 28 15:21:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0109621F85D6 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:21:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.328 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.328 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.271, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nELa8TvX84yg for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31::14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7028421F85D2 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h225n11-s-oev-d2.ias.bredband.telia.com ([2.248.171.225]:61408 helo=vigonier.lan) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SkN4e-0004XZ-3r; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:20:29 +0200 Message-ID: <4FECD8A5.3080401@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:20:21 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Sparks References: <4FECCE31.3060502@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <4FECCE31.3060502@nostrum.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2.248.171.225 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rjsparks@nostrum.com, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:57:07 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Urgent tickets in [ietfdb]: What's the current situation with these and how do we keep them from getting this old? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:21:16 -0000 Hi Robert, On 2012-06-28 23:35 Robert Sparks said the following: > There are two tickets in the ietfdb system that shouldn't be as old as > they are: > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/842 > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/843 > > Is there activity on getting them resolved being tracked somewhere else? > I'm trying to follow up on them. > > 843 is probably OBE. Cindy says Matt was trying to post before 4.21 was > deployed, and the > draft he was trying to post is posted now. > > 842 is still a problem - I get a crash from the server trying to look at > the sunset4 charter. For both of these, (and whenever there's a 500 error) notification of the failure, together with stack traces, go directly to the people listed in settings.ADMINS. For #843 I saw the notifications, fixed the problem and wrote back to Matthew within an hour of his first posting attempt. I didn't remember to go and close the Trac ticket (but not closed it) though (I do get email notifications of any new trac tickets, too). The crash for /wg/sunset4/charter is a regression between 4.20 and 4.21. I patched in the patches from production to trunk, but apparently this one didn't take quite as it should have. Fixing that now; then I'll go back and have a look at the situation behind #842. Best regards, Henrik From rjsparks@nostrum.com Thu Jun 28 15:53:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CED711E8093 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:53:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ay5ewvFg8qhP for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C2E11E8088 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unexplicable.local (pool-173-71-51-177.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [173.71.51.177]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5SMrbxe091986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:53:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <4FECE073.8080802@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:53:39 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <4FECCE31.3060502@nostrum.com> <4FECD8A5.3080401@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4FECD8A5.3080401@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 173.71.51.177 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Urgent tickets in [ietfdb]: What's the current situation with these and how do we keep them from getting this old? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:53:41 -0000 Thanks Henrik - Summarizing: 843 was fixed in a timely fashion, we just didn't capture that in the tracker. 842 was fixed in a timely fashion, but another problem came up later that coincidentally looked to be similar. Can you think of anything that would make it easier/more likely to capture the closure on these? One more to think about: earlier this week I found which was 4 weeks old. The error there wasn't a crash, it was just a data entry problem. What can we do to make it more likely those get caught quickly? RjS On 6/28/12 5:20 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Robert, > > On 2012-06-28 23:35 Robert Sparks said the following: >> There are two tickets in the ietfdb system that shouldn't be as old as >> they are: >> >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/842 >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/843 >> >> Is there activity on getting them resolved being tracked somewhere else? >> I'm trying to follow up on them. >> >> 843 is probably OBE. Cindy says Matt was trying to post before 4.21 was >> deployed, and the >> draft he was trying to post is posted now. >> >> 842 is still a problem - I get a crash from the server trying to look at >> the sunset4 charter. > For both of these, (and whenever there's a 500 error) notification of > the failure, together with stack traces, go directly to the people listed > in settings.ADMINS. For #843 I saw the notifications, fixed the problem > and wrote back to Matthew within an hour of his first posting attempt. > > I didn't remember to go and close the Trac ticket (but not closed it) though > (I do get email notifications of any new trac tickets, too). > > > The crash for /wg/sunset4/charter is a regression between 4.20 and 4.21. > I patched in the patches from production to trunk, but apparently this > one didn't take quite as it should have. Fixing that now; then I'll go > back and have a look at the situation behind #842. > > > Best regards, > > Henrik From henrik@levkowetz.com Thu Jun 28 16:43:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7107B21F8650 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:43:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.353 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.353 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.246, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MMQiuxTgSh1F for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31::14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5507D21F864B for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h225n11-s-oev-d2.ias.bredband.telia.com ([2.248.171.225]:63650 helo=vigonier.lan) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SkOMQ-0007IJ-SC; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:42:56 +0200 Message-ID: <4FECEBF8.8090403@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:42:48 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Sparks References: <4FECCE31.3060502@nostrum.com> <4FECD8A5.3080401@levkowetz.com> <4FECE073.8080802@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <4FECE073.8080802@nostrum.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2.248.171.225 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rjsparks@nostrum.com, tools-development@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:57:07 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Urgent tickets in [ietfdb]: What's the current situation with these and how do we keep them from getting this old? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:43:07 -0000 Hi Robert, On 2012-06-29 00:53 Robert Sparks said the following: > Thanks Henrik - > > Summarizing: > > 843 was fixed in a timely fashion, we just didn't capture that in the > tracker. > > 842 was fixed in a timely fashion, but another problem came up later > that coincidentally looked to be similar. > > Can you think of anything that would make it easier/more likely to > capture the closure on these? > > One more to think about: earlier this week I found > which was 4 weeks > old. The error there wasn't > a crash, it was just a data entry problem. What can we do to make it > more likely those get caught > quickly? Put more people on the notification list of the issue tracker? I actually don't think we have a problem with catching important things; but we do have a problem with following up on some of the issues which aren't urgent. I do get email copies of all the issues (as well as stack traces for each and every 500 error that occurs on the production server), and I always do try to catch the serious issue tracker tickets as soon as I can; I remember seeing #832 and concluding it was not serious and probably a data entry error; but with the amount of load I've had lately I've been triaging rather ruthlessly, and that one I just dropped. I guess my priority list for handling things go something like this * Server 500 email traces -- analyse and handle ASAP * Requests from ADs -- handle ASAP if errors, handle as time permits for features * Requests from the secretariat -- handle ASAP if the issue is blocking secretariat work, otherwise urgently as time permits. * Direct email questions -- handle as time permits, may backlog * Tracker issues and email list messages -- handle as time permits, will backlog if not triaged to urgent. The amount of time I have for each of my 3 areas of responsibility (Netnod software development, IETF Program Manager [i.e., most of the datatracker stuff], and IETF Tools Maintenance) varies a lot depending on how many urgent things pop up in each of the areas. During the first half of this year there's been serveral urgent projects internally at Netnod, and there's been the datatracker database schema conversion and merging and deployment of the projects which were ready and waiting for the new schema to be deployed. Tools has been fairly calm, except for the Trac server crash where an urgent change-over to another server had to be arranged. On both the Netnod side and the Datatracker side things are looking better now, with several urgent projects completed and/or deployed, but I don't see that I'll reach the point where I don't need to triage quite yet. Best regards, Henrik > > RjS > > On 6/28/12 5:20 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Hi Robert, >> >> On 2012-06-28 23:35 Robert Sparks said the following: >>> There are two tickets in the ietfdb system that shouldn't be as old as >>> they are: >>> >>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/842 >>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/843 >>> >>> Is there activity on getting them resolved being tracked somewhere else? >>> I'm trying to follow up on them. >>> >>> 843 is probably OBE. Cindy says Matt was trying to post before 4.21 was >>> deployed, and the >>> draft he was trying to post is posted now. >>> >>> 842 is still a problem - I get a crash from the server trying to look at >>> the sunset4 charter. >> For both of these, (and whenever there's a 500 error) notification of >> the failure, together with stack traces, go directly to the people listed >> in settings.ADMINS. For #843 I saw the notifications, fixed the problem >> and wrote back to Matthew within an hour of his first posting attempt. >> >> I didn't remember to go and close the Trac ticket (but not closed it) though >> (I do get email notifications of any new trac tickets, too). >> >> >> The crash for /wg/sunset4/charter is a regression between 4.20 and 4.21. >> I patched in the patches from production to trunk, but apparently this >> one didn't take quite as it should have. Fixing that now; then I'll go >> back and have a look at the situation behind #842. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Henrik > > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >