From housley@vigilsec.com Fri Jan 10 12:24:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEAB1AE0EF for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:24:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id in5INyJCJVcd for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [209.135.209.4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC931AE02E for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E959A426F for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:23:42 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JaVFXFJKivfr for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.110] (pool-96-255-140-248.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.140.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA5E9A424D for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:23:21 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <77DEF7D6-DE4C-4A61-9CE5-4C8EA72773DC@isoc.org> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:23:10 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <34379C73-C778-45BF-B1E3-B9880DD29409@vigilsec.com> References: <77DEF7D6-DE4C-4A61-9CE5-4C8EA72773DC@isoc.org> To: IETF Tools Development X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 14 Jan 2014 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 20:24:03 -0000 Tools Call Agenda -- 14 January 2014 at 13:00 Eastern 1. Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik - Shim Layer Removal Work Orders (being developed by IOLA) - Agenda Scheduling Development (being developed by Sandalman) - IPR Tool improvements -- Robert - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert - Transition from Django 1.2 -- Robert and Henrik - Transition to Django authorization model -- Robert and Henrik 2. Community & Other Projects - Mail Search & Archive Tool -- AMS - Making IETF Website more friendly to mobile devices 3. RFC Services Projects - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik - RSE Design Team 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools - Moving mail aliases to ietf.org and link them to datatracker database - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org - Internet-Draft dependencies 5. AOB From rjsparks@nostrum.com Fri Jan 10 14:01:31 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0AE1AE212 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 14:01:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.036 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.036 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 58VXGvbPwnpD for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 14:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from shaman.nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48201AE20D for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 14:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-173-71-10-88.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [173.71.10.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by shaman.nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s0AM1K82017734 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:01:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <52D06DB3.5050306@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:01:23 -0600 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <77DEF7D6-DE4C-4A61-9CE5-4C8EA72773DC@isoc.org> <34379C73-C778-45BF-B1E3-B9880DD29409@vigilsec.com> In-Reply-To: <34379C73-C778-45BF-B1E3-B9880DD29409@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (shaman.nostrum.com: 173.71.10.88 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 14 Jan 2014 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 22:01:32 -0000 Inline On 1/10/14, 2:23 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > Tools Call Agenda -- 14 January 2014 at 13:00 Eastern > > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > - Shim Layer Removal Work Orders (being developed by IOLA) > - Agenda Scheduling Development (being developed by Sandalman) > - IPR Tool improvements -- Robert > - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert > - Transition from Django 1.2 -- Robert and Henrik > - Transition to Django authorization model -- Robert and Henrik > > 2. Community & Other Projects > - Mail Search & Archive Tool -- AMS > - Making IETF Website more friendly to mobile devices > > 3. RFC Services Projects > - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik > - RSE Design Team > > 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools We should spend a few moments on idnits here > - Moving mail aliases to ietf.org and link them to datatracker database > - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org > - Internet-Draft dependencies > > 5. AOB > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From jari.arkko@piuha.net Sun Jan 12 23:33:37 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6321AE04E for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:33:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.438 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.438 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7RbiKHY67o08 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [193.234.218.130]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1981AE043 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 23:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273A02CC5F; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:33:25 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tY9RkagrlXCJ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:33:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2a00:1d50:2::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFD02CC48; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:33:23 +0200 (EET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: Jari Arkko In-Reply-To: <34379C73-C778-45BF-B1E3-B9880DD29409@vigilsec.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:33:23 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3BA06351-6558-4670-B310-04F3755EE5FD@piuha.net> References: <77DEF7D6-DE4C-4A61-9CE5-4C8EA72773DC@isoc.org> <34379C73-C778-45BF-B1E3-B9880DD29409@vigilsec.com> To: Russ Housley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 14 Jan 2014 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:33:38 -0000 This is once again difficult time for me. Some comments inline though: On Jan 10, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > Tools Call Agenda -- 14 January 2014 at 13:00 Eastern >=20 > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > - Shim Layer Removal Work Orders (being developed by IOLA) > - Agenda Scheduling Development (being developed by Sandalman) =46rom my perspective the tool has been a significant improvement. I'd = like to understand what the ongoing/remaining work is, is it the more = automatic schedule-generation? > - IPR Tool improvements -- Robert > - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert > - Transition from Django 1.2 -- Robert and Henrik > - Transition to Django authorization model -- Robert and Henrik >=20 > 2. Community & Other Projects > - Mail Search & Archive Tool -- AMS > - Making IETF Website more friendly to mobile devices So we have an overall web redesign project that should tackle this as = well. Is the above that project or something different? >=20 > 3. RFC Services Projects > - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik > - RSE Design Team >=20 > 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools > - Moving mail aliases to ietf.org and link them to data tracker = database This is important. > - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org This too. > - Internet-Draft dependencies Jari From housley@vigilsec.com Mon Jan 13 06:16:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709AB1ACCE6 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 06:16:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m7Rgjp8hrY-F for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 06:16:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [209.135.209.4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744541AC85E for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 06:16:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4748A9A4270; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:16:16 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ya2SmsldsWCU; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.110] (pool-96-255-140-248.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.140.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87C09A424D; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:15:54 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-532--1001516406; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <3BA06351-6558-4670-B310-04F3755EE5FD@piuha.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:15:43 -0500 Message-Id: References: <77DEF7D6-DE4C-4A61-9CE5-4C8EA72773DC@isoc.org> <34379C73-C778-45BF-B1E3-B9880DD29409@vigilsec.com> <3BA06351-6558-4670-B310-04F3755EE5FD@piuha.net> To: Jari Arkko X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 14 Jan 2014 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:16:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail-532--1001516406 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jari: > This is once again difficult time for me. Some comments inline though: >=20 > On Jan 10, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Russ Housley = wrote: >=20 >> Tools Call Agenda -- 14 January 2014 at 13:00 Eastern >>=20 >> 1. Datatracker Projects >> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >> - Shim Layer Removal Work Orders (being developed by IOLA) >> - Agenda Scheduling Development (being developed by Sandalman) >=20 > =46rom my perspective the tool has been a significant improvement. I'd = like to understand what the ongoing/remaining work is, is it the more = automatic schedule-generation? I hope those will be covered tomorrow. >> - IPR Tool improvements -- Robert >> - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert >> - Transition from Django 1.2 -- Robert and Henrik >> - Transition to Django authorization model -- Robert and Henrik >>=20 >> 2. Community & Other Projects >> - Mail Search & Archive Tool -- AMS >> - Making IETF Website more friendly to mobile devices >=20 > So we have an overall web redesign project that should tackle this as = well. Is the above that project or something different? They are the same. The mobile device was the first thing identified, = and it has grown. I'll update my agenda item wording. >>=20 >> 3. RFC Services Projects >> - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik >> - RSE Design Team >>=20 >> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >> - Moving mail aliases to ietf.org and link them to data tracker = database >=20 > This is important. >=20 >> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org >=20 > This too. >=20 >> - Internet-Draft dependencies Robert tells me that we need to talk about idnits too. 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Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:44:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.035 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.035 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VHC6gVZyCle0 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from shaman.nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7C61ADFDC for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-173-71-10-88.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [173.71.10.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by shaman.nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s0DGiQMw088450 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:44:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <52D417C3.6080805@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:43:47 -0600 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <77DEF7D6-DE4C-4A61-9CE5-4C8EA72773DC@isoc.org> <34379C73-C778-45BF-B1E3-B9880DD29409@vigilsec.com> <3BA06351-6558-4670-B310-04F3755EE5FD@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020806030902040205030306" Received-SPF: pass (shaman.nostrum.com: 173.71.10.88 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 14 Jan 2014 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:44:40 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020806030902040205030306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 1/13/14, 8:15 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > Jari: > >> This is once again difficult time for me. Do we need to try a different baseline time? >> Some comments inline though: >> >> On Jan 10, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Russ Housley wrote: >> >>> Tools Call Agenda -- 14 January 2014 at 13:00 Eastern >>> >>> 1. Datatracker Projects >>> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >>> - Shim Layer Removal Work Orders (being developed by IOLA) >>> - Agenda Scheduling Development (being developed by Sandalman) >> From my perspective the tool has been a significant improvement. I'd like to understand what the ongoing/remaining work is, is it the more automatic schedule-generation? > I hope those will be covered tomorrow. Yes. Here's a summary now so we can focus on questions tomorrow. As we discussed in Vancouver, we have accepted the automatic schedule generating code, but are not going to deploy it in its current form. We will use it as a base for research into ways to make it more useful. We have accepted a set of tests that automate exercising the javascript parts of this code (using the Selenium framework under Django 1.2). Creating these automated tests has already had high payback in the form of correcting bugs discovered in the javascript code as the tests were being developed. Trunk is in the process of moving to Django 1.6, which has a _much_ richer integration with Selenium. I am planning for the tools team to port these tests into the updated framework rather than merging them directly. Michael is currently addressing a set of bugs and feature requests identified while scheduling the Vancouver meeting. These include * Improving how conflicts both to and from a group are displayed * Improving navigation between multiple sessions for a given group * Explicitly tracking the resources (projectors, meetecho, etc.) needed for a session * Including the need for specific people (such as ADs) to be present in conflict resolution * Addressing minor UI issues This work should be checked in this week. We will need to work out timing on deploying these. We will bring them in as quickly as we can, but we are going to avoid the kind of disruption we had in the meeting/agenda apps that we experienced before Vancouver. >>> - IPR Tool improvements -- Robert >>> - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert >>> - Transition from Django 1.2 -- Robert and Henrik >>> - Transition to Django authorization model -- Robert and Henrik >>> >>> 2. Community & Other Projects >>> - Mail Search & Archive Tool -- AMS >>> - Making IETF Website more friendly to mobile devices >> So we have an overall web redesign project that should tackle this as well. Is the above that project or something different? > They are the same. The mobile device was the first thing identified, and it has grown. I'll update my agenda item wording. > >>> 3. RFC Services Projects >>> - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik >>> - RSE Design Team >>> >>> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >>> - Moving mail aliases to ietf.org and link them to data tracker database >> This is important. >> >>> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org >> This too. >> >>> - Internet-Draft dependencies > Robert tells me that we need to talk about idnits too. > > Russ > > > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --------------020806030902040205030306 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 1/13/14, 8:15 AM, Russ Housley wrote:
Jari:


This is once again difficult time for me.
Do we need to try a different baseline time?
Some comments inline though:

On Jan 10, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:


Tools Call Agenda -- 14 January 2014 at 13:00 Eastern

1. Datatracker Projects
 - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik
 - Shim Layer Removal Work Orders (being developed by IOLA)
 - Agenda Scheduling Development (being developed by Sandalman)

>From my perspective the tool has been a significant improvement. I'd like to understand what the ongoing/remaining work is, is it the more automatic schedule-generation?

I hope those will be covered tomorrow.
Yes.
Here's a summary now so we can focus on questions tomorrow.

As we discussed in Vancouver, we have accepted the automatic schedule generating code, but are not going to deploy it in its current form. We will use it as a base for research into ways to make it more useful.

We have accepted a set of tests that automate exercising the javascript parts of this code (using the Selenium framework under Django 1.2). Creating these automated tests has already had high payback in the form of correcting bugs discovered in the javascript code as the tests were being developed. Trunk is in the process of moving to Django 1.6, which has a _much_ richer integration with Selenium. I am planning for the tools team to port these tests into the updated framework rather than merging them directly.

Michael is currently addressing a set of bugs and feature requests identified while scheduling the Vancouver meeting. These include
* Improving how conflicts both to and from a group are displayed
* Improving navigation between multiple sessions for a given group
* Explicitly tracking the resources (projectors, meetecho, etc.) needed for a session
* Including the need for specific people (such as ADs) to be present in conflict resolution
* Addressing minor UI issues
This work should be checked in this week. We will need to work out timing on deploying these. We will bring them in as quickly as we can, but we are going to avoid the kind of disruption we had in the meeting/agenda apps that we experienced before Vancouver.


 - IPR Tool improvements -- Robert
 - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert
 - Transition from Django 1.2 -- Robert and Henrik
 - Transition to Django authorization model -- Robert and Henrik

2. Community & Other Projects
 - Mail Search & Archive Tool -- AMS
 - Making IETF Website more friendly to mobile devices

So we have an overall web redesign project that should tackle this as well. Is the above that project or something different?

They are the same.  The mobile device was the first thing identified, and it has grown.  I'll update my agenda item wording.


3. RFC Services Projects
 - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik
 - RSE Design Team

4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools
 - Moving mail aliases to ietf.org and link them to data tracker database

This is important.


 - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org

This too.


 - Internet-Draft dependencies

Robert tells me that we need to talk about idnits too.

Russ




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--------------020806030902040205030306-- From jari.arkko@piuha.net Mon Jan 13 09:36:23 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B2C1ADF28 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:36:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.438 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.438 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4g_mNzYOMwJC for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [193.234.218.130]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC6F1ADE84 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BD42CC61; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:36:09 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EEJCEtzPAz1k; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:36:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2a00:1d50:2::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CA82CC48; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:36:08 +0200 (EET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: Jari Arkko In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:36:09 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <604E00D2-8350-44FA-BDE1-912553DF1011@piuha.net> References: <77DEF7D6-DE4C-4A61-9CE5-4C8EA72773DC@isoc.org> <34379C73-C778-45BF-B1E3-B9880DD29409@vigilsec.com> <3BA06351-6558-4670-B310-04F3755EE5FD@piuha.net> To: Russ Housley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 14 Jan 2014 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:36:24 -0000 >>> - Agenda Scheduling Development (being developed by Sandalman) >>=20 >> =46rom my perspective the tool has been a significant improvement. = I'd like to understand what the ongoing/remaining work is, is it the = more automatic schedule-generation? >=20 > I hope those will be covered tomorrow. Yes. So my question was whether there is some point where additional = work on automation will come at a higher cost than the benefit that = Stephanie gets from automation. I'm sure we need to do some more work, = but there will be a point where we're done. >=20 >>> - IPR Tool improvements -- Robert >>> - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert >>> - Transition from Django 1.2 -- Robert and Henrik >>> - Transition to Django authorization model -- Robert and Henrik >>>=20 >>> 2. Community & Other Projects >>> - Mail Search & Archive Tool -- AMS >>> - Making IETF Website more friendly to mobile devices >>=20 >> So we have an overall web redesign project that should tackle this as = well. Is the above that project or something different? >=20 > They are the same. The mobile device was the first thing identified, = and it has grown. =20 Ok, good. 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= --Apple-Mail=_7EA3FF39-1F96-4B76-93CB-2294170AB64C-- From rjsparks@nostrum.com Tue Jan 14 11:16:36 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF77E1AE1E6 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:16:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.035 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.035 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5h-wYphFRGZc for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from shaman.nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6277E1ADF90 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-173-71-10-88.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [173.71.10.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by shaman.nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s0EJGMaw074959 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 13:16:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <52D58CB5.2080407@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 13:15:01 -0600 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF Tools Development References: <91106A1C-13CE-425B-AC00-A3F6ADAA9379@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <91106A1C-13CE-425B-AC00-A3F6ADAA9379@amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000202050203010805000702" Received-SPF: pass (shaman.nostrum.com: 173.71.10.88 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] suggestion for dependencies page X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 19:16:37 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000202050203010805000702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 1/14/14, 12:45 PM, Alice Russo wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Suggest defining the "(???)". > Seems to be for Status under Referred-To Document. > Not sure what it is for Type. > > example: > http://www.fenron.net/~fenner/ietf/deps/index.cgi?dep=draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis > Ah - that's Bill's old tool. These new views we were talking about are at the next two links to the right of where you found that one. (look for References and Referred By). The newer implementation doesn't use the question marks - ??? won't appear on the new pages - what they were trying to convey got encoded into the reference type. You'll see some difference between documents Bill's old tool identifies and what the new tool identifies - there are heuristics involved. The new tool uses a stronger set of heuristics refined by Bill and Henrik and should have fewer false positives. RjS > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Documents that depend on: draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis > > > Referring Document Referred-To Document Type > draft-lhotka-netmod-yang-json-02 (active) draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis > > (???) normative (???) > draft-vanderstok-core-comi-02 (active) draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis > > (???) normative (???) > draft-bierman-netconf-restconf-03 (active) draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis > > (???) normative (???) > draft-bierman-netconf-efficiency-extensions-00 (active) > draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis > > (???) normative (???) > draft-ietf-jose-json-web-signature-19 (active) > draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis > > (???) normative (???) > draft-bierman-netconf-yang-patch-00 (active) > draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis > > (???) normative (???) > > > > Documents that are depended on by: draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis > > Referring Document Referred-To Document Type > draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) bcp14 > > normative > draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) rfc0020 (ASCII format for network > interchange) > > (Unknown) normative (???) > draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) rfc20 (ASCII format for network > interchange) > > (Unknown) normative (???) > draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) rfc2119 (Key words for use in > RFCs to Indicate Requirement Levels) > > (Best Current Practice) normative > draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) rfc5234 (Augmented BNF for Syntax > Specifications: ABNF) > > (Internet Standard) normative (???) > draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) std68 > > normative > draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) rfc4627 (The application/json > Media Type for JavaScript Object Notation (JSON)) > > (Informational) informative > draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) bcp78 > unknown > draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) bcp79 > unknown > > > --------------000202050203010805000702 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 1/14/14, 12:45 PM, Alice Russo wrote:
Hi Robert,

Suggest defining the "(???)". 
Seems to be for Status under Referred-To Document.
Not sure what it is for Type.
<snip/>
Ah - that's Bill's old tool. These new views we were talking about are at the next two links to the right of where you found that one.
(look for References and Referred By). The newer implementation doesn't use the question marks - ??? won't appear on the new pages
 - what they were trying to convey got encoded into the reference type.

You'll see some difference between documents Bill's old tool identifies and what the new tool identifies - there are heuristics involved.
The new tool uses a stronger set of heuristics refined by Bill and Henrik and should have fewer false positives.

RjS


Documents that depend on: draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis


Referring Document Referred-To Document Type
draft-lhotka-netmod-yang-json-02 (active) draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis (???) normative (???)
draft-vanderstok-core-comi-02 (active) draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis (???) normative (???)
draft-bierman-netconf-restconf-03 (active) draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis (???) normative (???)
draft-bierman-netconf-efficiency-extensions-00 (active) draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis (???) normative (???)
draft-ietf-jose-json-web-signature-19 (active) draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis (???) normative (???)
draft-bierman-netconf-yang-patch-00 (active) draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis (???) normative (???)


Documents that are depended on by: draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis

Referring Document Referred-To Document Type
draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) bcp14 normative
draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) rfc0020 (ASCII format for network interchange) (Unknown) normative (???)
draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) rfc20 (ASCII format for network interchange) (Unknown) normative (???)
draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) rfc2119 (Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate Requirement Levels) (Best Current Practice) normative
draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) rfc5234 (Augmented BNF for Syntax Specifications: ABNF) (Internet Standard) normative (???)
draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) std68 normative
draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) rfc4627 (The application/json Media Type for JavaScript Object Notation (JSON)) (Informational) informative
draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) bcp78 unknown
draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-10 (???) bcp79 unknown



--------------000202050203010805000702-- From housley@vigilsec.com Wed Jan 15 11:39:55 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B851AE112 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:39:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0IFsaluLik7j for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [209.135.209.4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA5E1AE0FD for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126009A4273 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 14:39:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nr7MfOX9fZtg for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 14:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.110] (pool-71-178-10-80.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.178.10.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746F89A4217 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 14:39:10 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 14:38:58 -0500 Message-Id: To: IETF Tools Development Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools call just after London X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 19:39:55 -0000 The schedule has a tools call on the Tuesday after IETF 89, 11 Mar 2014. = Let's move that to 18 Mar 2014. Russ From arusso@amsl.com Wed Jan 15 11:56:32 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F6C1AE128 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:56:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.439 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.439 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lDovDHqtQIhb for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F571AE112 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c9a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7264CA6177; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:54:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c9a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c9a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E764TE3o_Cxu; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [64.170.98.203] (unknown [64.170.98.203]) by c9a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5885CA60A9; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:54:07 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Alice Russo In-Reply-To: <52D58CB5.2080407@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:56:18 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <91106A1C-13CE-425B-AC00-A3F6ADAA9379@amsl.com> <52D58CB5.2080407@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] suggestion for dependencies page X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 19:56:32 -0000 Robert, OK; thanks for the pointer. Suggestion for the table on = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/help/relationships/reference/ -- update the descriptions to quote or paraphrase the IESG statement = (http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/normative-informative.html). For = example: "Normative references specify documents that must be read to understand = or implement the technology in the new RFC, or whose technology must be = present for the technology in the new RFC to work." "An informative reference [...] provides additional information. For = example, [it] might provide background or historical information. = Informative references are not required to implement the technology in = the RFC."=20 Thanks, Alice On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > On 1/14/14, 12:45 PM, Alice Russo wrote: >> Hi Robert, >>=20 >> Suggest defining the "(???)".=20 >> Seems to be for Status under Referred-To Document. >> Not sure what it is for Type. > >>=20 >> example: >> = http://www.fenron.net/~fenner/ietf/deps/index.cgi?dep=3Ddraft-ietf-json-rf= c4627bis > Ah - that's Bill's old tool. These new views we were talking about are = at the next two links to the right of where you found that one. > (look for References and Referred By). The newer implementation = doesn't use the question marks - ??? won't appear on the new pages > - what they were trying to convey got encoded into the reference = type.=20 >=20 > You'll see some difference between documents Bill's old tool = identifies and what the new tool identifies - there are heuristics = involved. > The new tool uses a stronger set of heuristics refined by Bill and = Henrik and should have fewer false positives. >=20 > RjS >=20 From rjsparks@nostrum.com Fri Jan 31 11:58:07 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6D41A0292; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:58:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.035 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.035 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IEyfxFNWJAf5; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from shaman.nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08E61A03F5; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-173-71-10-88.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [173.71.10.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by shaman.nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s0VJw01o054628 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:58:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <52EC0048.7000706@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:58:00 -0600 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF Tools Development , IAOC References: In-Reply-To: X-Forwarded-Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030704060004070301090206" Received-SPF: pass (shaman.nostrum.com: 173.71.10.88 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: New datatracker release: v5.0.0 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:58:07 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030704060004070301090206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IAOC members: I wanted to make sure you were aware of this release in case you weren't on one of the lists that gets these announcements. It is a major milestone. I'd like to add to what's below that Henrik deserves special thanks - he has been at the heart of this progress from the beginning. RjS -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New datatracker release: v5.0.0 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 22:11:51 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz To: codesprints@ietf.org CC: amorris@amsl.com, avezza@amsl.com, cmorgan@amsl.com, fenner@fenron.net, glen@amsl.com, henrik@levkowetz.com, housley@vigilsec.com, iesg@ietf.org, kmoreland@amsl.com, olau@iola.dk, rjs@nostrum.com, smccammon@amsl.com Hi, This is an automatic notification about a new datatracker release, v5.0.0, generated when running the mkrelease script. Release notes: ietfdb (5.0.0) ietf; urgency=medium With this release, a journey which started in 2008 with a *major* redesign of the IETF database schema has reached its goal. We've now converted the datatracker completely to the schema designed then, swapping out all the models that were changed, converted the database, swapped out all the GUI code that was built against the old models, and polished off a host of minor issues arising from the conversion. All this while completing and integrating 10 major functionality enhancement projects and releasing more than 50 minor releases, with not a single day of downtime. A history of release notes is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/release/ In addition to bringing in the last scheduled polish of the conversion, this release also brings in an upgrade of the Django framework from version 1.2 to 1.6, which gives us a number of new tools and possibilities for future work. A particular mention goes to Ole Laursen , an outstanding programmer at the small Danish firm IOLA, who has been doing a lot of the heavy lifting in coding the shim-layer which made it possible to change the database schema without a total re-write in the spring of 2012, followed by the major code re-write which has taken place since then to get rid of all the parts which were written to the old database schema. Thanks also goes to all the IETF code sprint participants who have contributed, and to Robert Sparks in particular who has contributed *a lot* to make it all come together. There are still some parts of the schema that need an overhaul, and plans exist for addressing those, but overall we should be in good shape for the near future, with some room to grow :-) Detailed change information is available at: - http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk - http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/branch/iola/djangoport - http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/branch/iola/shimfree -- Henrik Levkowetz 28 Jan 2014 0:04:11 +0100 The new version is available through SVN checkout, with 'svn checkout http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/5.0.0' Regards, Henrik (via the mkrelease script) --------------030704060004070301090206 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IAOC members:

I wanted to make sure you were aware of this release in case you weren't on one of the lists that gets these announcements.
It is a major milestone.

I'd like to add to what's below that Henrik deserves special thanks - he has been at the heart of this progress from the beginning.

RjS


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: New datatracker release: v5.0.0
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 22:11:51 +0100
From: Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@tools.ietf.org>
To: codesprints@ietf.org
CC: amorris@amsl.com, avezza@amsl.com, cmorgan@amsl.com, fenner@fenron.net, glen@amsl.com, henrik@levkowetz.com, housley@vigilsec.com, iesg@ietf.org, kmoreland@amsl.com, olau@iola.dk, rjs@nostrum.com, smccammon@amsl.com 


Hi,

This is an automatic notification about a new datatracker release, 
v5.0.0, generated when running the mkrelease script.

Release notes:

ietfdb (5.0.0) ietf; urgency=medium

  With this release, a journey which started in 2008 with a *major* redesign
  of the IETF database schema has reached its goal.  We've now converted the
  datatracker completely to the schema designed then, swapping out all the
  models that were changed, converted the database, swapped out all the GUI
  code that was built against the old models, and polished off a host of minor
  issues arising from the conversion.  All this while completing and
  integrating 10 major functionality enhancement projects and releasing more
  than 50 minor releases, with not a single day of downtime.  A history of
  release notes is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/release/

  In addition to bringing in the last scheduled polish of the conversion,
  this release also brings in an upgrade of the Django framework from version
  1.2 to 1.6, which gives us a number of new tools and possibilities for
  future work.
  
  A particular mention goes to Ole Laursen <olau@iola.dk>, an outstanding
  programmer at the small Danish firm IOLA, who has been doing a lot of the
  heavy lifting in coding the shim-layer which made it possible to change the
  database schema without a total re-write in the spring of 2012, followed by
  the major code re-write which has taken place since then to get rid of all
  the parts which were written to the old database schema.

  Thanks also goes to all the IETF code sprint participants who have
  contributed, and to Robert Sparks in particular who has contributed *a lot*
  to make it all come together.

  There are still some parts of the schema that need an overhaul, and plans
  exist for addressing those, but overall we should be in good shape for the
  near future, with some room to grow :-)

  Detailed change information is available at:
  - http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk
  - http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/branch/iola/djangoport
  - http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/branch/iola/shimfree

 -- Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>  28 Jan 2014 0:04:11 +0100

The new version is available through SVN checkout, with
  'svn checkout http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/5.0.0'

Regards,

	Henrik
	(via the mkrelease script)


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