From nobody Mon Apr 6 08:56:48 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37FE1A8AB9 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 08:56:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fSDrBddbeA7a for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 08:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473C81A8AAC for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 08:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D049A400D; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 11:56:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AiqkXKmpfGrz; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 11:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-96-255-133-185.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.133.185]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40109A4009; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 11:56:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 11:56:14 -0400 Message-Id: To: IETF Tools Development Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Cc: Greg Wood , Joe Hildebrand Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 14 April 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 15:56:48 -0000 Tools Call Agenda -- 14 April 2015 at 13:00 Eastern 1. Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert - Agenda Tool enhancements -- Robert - Performance improvements -- Henrik - Review Tracking -- Robert - Facelift -- Robert - Report on email handling in the datatracker -- Robert 2. Community & Other Projects - Present a directory view of active, archived, and unknown I-Ds -- Robert - Can we turning off the FTP service? -- Robert - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg - IETF Meeting App -- Alexa 3. RFC Services Projects - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik - DOI -- Alice and Heather - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert - Fonts for RFCs -- Heather - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org 5. Server Infrastructure - iCal servers -- AMS - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert 6. IDIQ Contractors - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray 7. Parking Lot - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS - RFC Editor automatic stats and reporting RFP -- Heather - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert 8. AOB From nobody Mon Apr 6 12:05:06 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDE71A90CD for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 12:05:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y8-5ya2LBhdS for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 12:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2on0060.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCD6F1A90CA for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 12:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.11] (96.247.193.52) by BY2PR06MB235.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.242.47.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.130.23; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 19:05:00 +0000 From: Ray Pelletier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_AB8091B5-8F89-4B22-ABEF-86BB1C62AE80" Message-ID: <05177998-FF3B-4B75-A810-D4B70A6211FF@isoc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:07:49 -0400 References: <930803850.90682.1428343574434.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2tc415.webex.com> To: IETF Tools Development X-Mail-Calendar-Part: Yes X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) X-Originating-IP: [96.247.193.52] X-ClientProxiedBy: CY1PR13CA0010.namprd13.prod.outlook.com (25.162.30.148) To BY2PR06MB235.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.242.47.16) Authentication-Results: ietf.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none; X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR06MB235; X-Microsoft-Antispam-PRVS: X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: BMV:1; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(6049001)(377454003)(51704005)(243025005)(16799955002)(57306001)(87976001)(77096005)(76176999)(69556001)(66066001)(512954002)(50226001)(50986999)(15975445007)(19617315012)(1720100001)(42186005)(36756003)(122386002)(92566002)(40100003)(77156002)(450100001)(62966003)(46102003)(83716003)(82746002)(84326002)(15395725005)(86362001)(19580395003)(575784001)(19580405001)(568964001)(16601075003)(110136001)(229853001)(33656002)(5890100001)(107886001)(24704002)(104396002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR06MB235; H:[10.0.1.11]; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(5005006)(5002010); SRVR:BY2PR06MB235; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BY2PR06MB235; X-Forefront-PRVS: 0538A71254 X-OriginatorOrg: isoc.org X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2015 19:05:00.4752 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BY2PR06MB235 Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda and WebEx X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 19:05:05 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_AB8091B5-8F89-4B22-ABEF-86BB1C62AE80 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" All; Tools Call Tuesday 14 April at 1:00 PM ET, GMT -04 Tools Call Agenda -- 14 April 2015 at 13:00 Eastern 1. Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan = - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert - Agenda Tool enhancements -- Robert - Performance improvements -- Henrik - Review Tracking -- Robert - Facelift -- Robert - Report on email handling in the datatracker -- Robert 2. Community & Other Projects - Present a directory view of active, archived, and unknown I-Ds = -- Robert - Can we turning off the FTP service? -- Robert - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg - IETF Meeting App -- Alexa 3. RFC Services Projects - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik - DOI -- Alice and Heather - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert - Fonts for RFCs -- Heather - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org = 5. Server Infrastructure - iCal servers -- AMS - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert 6. IDIQ Contractors - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray 7. Parking Lot - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS - RFC Editor automatic stats and reporting RFP -- Heather - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert 8. AOB > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > Date: April 6, 2015 at 2:06:14 PM EDT > From: Ray Pelletier > Reply-To: > To: > Subject: (Forward to others) WebEx meeting invitation: Tools Cmte >=20 > You can forward this invitation to others. > Hello, > Ray Pelletier invites you to join this WebEx meeting. > =20 > Tools Cmte > Tuesday, April 14, 2015 > 1:00 pm | Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00) | 1 hr > =20 > Join WebEx meeting = > Meeting number: 823 784 377 > =20 > Join by phone > 1-877-668-4490 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada) > 1-408-792-6300 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > Access code: 823 784 377 > Global call-in numbers = | Toll-free calling restrictions = > =20 > Add this meeting = to your calendar. > =20 > Can't join the meeting? Contact support. = > =20 > IMPORTANT NOTICE: Please note that this WebEx service allows audio and = other information sent during the session to be recorded, which may be = discoverable in a legal matter. By joining this session, you = automatically consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to being = recorded, discuss your concerns with the host or do not join the = session. --Apple-Mail=_AB8091B5-8F89-4B22-ABEF-86BB1C62AE80 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8244E1B6-3C56-4E21-9396-40124F4F463F" --Apple-Mail=_8244E1B6-3C56-4E21-9396-40124F4F463F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" All;

Tools = Call Tuesday 14 April at 1:00 PM ET, GMT -04

Tools Call Agenda -- 14 April 2015 at = 13:00 Eastern

1. Datatracker Projects
  - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and = Henrik
    -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan
  - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert
  - Agenda Tool enhancements -- Robert
  - Performance improvements -- Henrik
  - Review Tracking -- Robert
  - Facelift -- Robert
  - = Report on email handling in the datatracker -- Robert

2. Community & Other Projects
  - = Present a directory view of active, archived, and unknown I-Ds -- = Robert
  - Can we turning off the FTP service? = -- Robert
  - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and = Greg
  - IETF Meeting App -- Alexa

3. RFC Services Projects
  - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik
  - DOI -- Alice and Heather
  - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and = Heather
  - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert
  - Fonts for RFCs -- Heather
  - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather

4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools
  - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs = on ietf.org

5. = Server Infrastructure
  - iCal servers -- AMS
  - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert
  - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert

6. IDIQ Contractors
  - = RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray

7. = Parking Lot
  - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS
  - RFC Editor automatic stats and reporting RFP -- = Heather
  - Author information for very old I-Ds = in the datatracker -- Robert

8. AOB

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Date: = April 6, 2015 at 2:06:14 PM = EDT
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To: <rpelletier@isoc.org>
Subject: = (Forward to = others) WebEx meeting invitation: Tools Cmte

You can forward this = invitation to others.
Hello,
Ray Pelletier invites you to join this WebEx meeting.
 
= Tools Cmte
Tuesday, April 14, 2015
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= = Join WebEx meeting =
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--Apple-Mail=_8244E1B6-3C56-4E21-9396-40124F4F463F-- --Apple-Mail=_AB8091B5-8F89-4B22-ABEF-86BB1C62AE80-- From nobody Tue Apr 7 13:03:22 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B421B3BBC for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 13:03:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YgYgWUs6Gs4J for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 13:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F07851B3BBA for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 13:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable-2.local (pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t37K3Ixh063447 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 15:03:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80] claimed to be unnumerable-2.local Message-ID: <55243802.6060004@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 15:03:14 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF Tools Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Impending Facelift deployment X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 20:03:21 -0000 All (as a heads up) - If things go as we think they will over the rest of the week, we will deploy the facelift next Monday. This will go like any other deployment, but the look change will, of course, be more noticeable. We have a fallback in place if we uncover any blocking issues after deployment. RjS From nobody Tue Apr 7 20:37:17 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37321ACE39 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 20:37:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UmsVH0TAT5RQ for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 20:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D194A1AD0CA for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 20:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F80E9A4015; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 23:36:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hlvEYF55q-ks; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 23:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-96-255-133-185.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.133.185]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D919A400D; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 23:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <55243802.6060004@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 23:36:25 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3EA4FE26-84A5-42A3-9543-8F99932ACEE7@vigilsec.com> References: <55243802.6060004@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Impending Facelift deployment X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 03:37:11 -0000 When will the IESG get a heads-up? Russ On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > All (as a heads up) - >=20 > If things go as we think they will over the rest of the week, we will = deploy the facelift next Monday. > This will go like any other deployment, but the look change will, of = course, be more noticeable. > We have a fallback in place if we uncover any blocking issues after = deployment. >=20 > RjS >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Wed Apr 8 05:53:46 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4981A1B2E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 05:53:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VsZsPm1seSQg for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 05:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BA0C1A1B34 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 05:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable-2.local (pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t38Crgu6063534 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 8 Apr 2015 07:53:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80] claimed to be unnumerable-2.local Message-ID: <552524D0.3070506@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 07:53:36 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Housley References: <55243802.6060004@nostrum.com> <3EA4FE26-84A5-42A3-9543-8F99932ACEE7@vigilsec.com> In-Reply-To: <3EA4FE26-84A5-42A3-9543-8F99932ACEE7@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Impending Facelift deployment X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 12:53:44 -0000 I forwarded the below message to them right after sending it here. On 4/7/15 10:36 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > When will the IESG get a heads-up? > > Russ > > > On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > >> All (as a heads up) - >> >> If things go as we think they will over the rest of the week, we will deploy the facelift next Monday. >> This will go like any other deployment, but the look change will, of course, be more noticeable. >> We have a fallback in place if we uncover any blocking issues after deployment. >> >> RjS >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Fri Apr 10 08:21:42 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18851A1B2A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:21:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SIp7AYyVPxsb for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC2CE1A1B34 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t3AFLYfZ025704 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:21:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <5527EA79.2060404@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:21:29 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-development@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 14 April 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:21:41 -0000 Some early notes to help keep the meeting on time. On 4/6/15 10:56 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > Tools Call Agenda -- 14 April 2015 at 13:00 Eastern > > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan I don't think we need to spend any time on this call talking about this item. (We'll talk about facelift later in the agenda). If anyone has questions about the other upcoming releases that aren't answered in the comments below, please bring them up before we get to Tuesday. > - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert In progress - finishing the mapping to groups and building the list of default contacts. > - Agenda Tool enhancements -- Robert In progress - nothing new to report since IETF92 > - Performance improvements -- Henrik > - Review Tracking -- Robert I hope to have a revised draft out mid-week next week. > - Facelift -- Robert We expect this will have been deployed before the meeting - I'm sure we'll have a few things to discuss. > - Report on email handling in the datatracker -- Robert We are working on the change to the ballot editing page that will let the ADs copy a working group (and will copy a working group by default). We have a script to scrub working group lists out of the Notify field and will be socializing that with the IESG and working group chairs early next week. It will run after the first maintenance release after the facelift is deployed. We are starting in on normalizing when and to who the tracker sends email (remember the large spreadsheet from just before the Dallas meeting). We're looking into making that more data-driven (as opposed to hard-coded) where it's feasible to do so. > > 2. Community & Other Projects > - Present a directory view of active, archived, and unknown I-Ds -- Robert This has become "normalizing the way artifacts are stored and presented". The draft Archive and the Repository are now exposed with http and rsync. We have been classifying the contents of the filesystem, and moving cruft aside. I expect we will complete the majority of restructuring where we are holding files before the next tools call. > - Can we turning off the FTP service? -- Robert I expect talking this down to take a noticeable fraction of our meeting time. > - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg > - IETF Meeting App -- Alexa > > 3. RFC Services Projects > - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik > - DOI -- Alice and Heather > - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather > - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert Nothing new to report here. We will cover the dependencies these are waiting on later in the call. > - Fonts for RFCs -- Heather > - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather > > 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools > - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org > > 5. Server Infrastructure > - iCal servers -- AMS > - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert We are testing with the full archive, adding testers slowly. We are starting to get some load data, but the number of users is still too low to extrapolate from (see http://devc.amsl.com/mrtg/) The testers we have are finding some fun issues that were pre-existing in the archive, but IMAP made easier to find. We are gathering information about how to configure clients at http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/tools/trac/wiki/ImapTesting Alexey is making some tweaks to how the server responds to subscription requests to induce the better behavior out of clients as we learn more about them. > - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert In progress - the above topics on normalizing where artifacts are kept and analyzing how and when email is sent and received are the active efforts. > > 6. IDIQ Contractors > - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray > > 7. Parking Lot > - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS > - RFC Editor automatic stats and reporting RFP -- Heather > - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert > > 8. AOB > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Mon Apr 13 06:28:30 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70651A00E2 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 06:28:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.79 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.79 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1KsNy6HHHVaI for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 06:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F2C91A00E0 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 06:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t3DDSQrY087192 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:28:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <552BC475.50604@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:28:21 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF Tools Development References: <55243802.6060004@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <55243802.6060004@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Impending Facelift deployment X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:28:29 -0000 An update - The facelift merge to trunk is going well, but there are a few remaining issues uncovered by the crawler to address. The deployment will most likely happen tomorrow. RjS On 4/7/15 3:03 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > All (as a heads up) - > > If things go as we think they will over the rest of the week, we will > deploy the facelift next Monday. > This will go like any other deployment, but the look change will, of > course, be more noticeable. > We have a fallback in place if we uncover any blocking issues after > deployment. > > RjS From nobody Mon Apr 13 12:15:14 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE8F1B31F3 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 12:15:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i8PVGTJIjPJW for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 12:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 400ED1B2FD3 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 12:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local (mobile-166-173-184-248.mycingular.net [166.173.184.248]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t3DJF8Mt078507 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 14:15:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host mobile-166-173-184-248.mycingular.net [166.173.184.248] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <552C15B6.2070701@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 14:15:02 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <5527EA79.2060404@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <5527EA79.2060404@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 14 April 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:15:13 -0000 I'd also like to add a short conversation about the codesprint and the hackathon to the AoB section. RjS On 4/10/15 10:21 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > Some early notes to help keep the meeting on time. > > On 4/6/15 10:56 AM, Russ Housley wrote: >> Tools Call Agenda -- 14 April 2015 at 13:00 Eastern >> >> 1. Datatracker Projects >> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan > I don't think we need to spend any time on this call talking about > this item. > (We'll talk about facelift later in the agenda). > If anyone has questions about the other upcoming releases that aren't > answered > in the comments below, please bring them up before we get to Tuesday. >> - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert > In progress - finishing the mapping to groups and building the list of > default contacts. >> - Agenda Tool enhancements -- Robert > In progress - nothing new to report since IETF92 >> - Performance improvements -- Henrik >> - Review Tracking -- Robert > I hope to have a revised draft out mid-week next week. >> - Facelift -- Robert > We expect this will have been deployed before the meeting - I'm sure > we'll have a few things to discuss. >> - Report on email handling in the datatracker -- Robert > We are working on the change to the ballot editing page that will let > the ADs copy a working group (and will > copy a working group by default). We have a script to scrub working > group lists out of the Notify field and > will be socializing that with the IESG and working group chairs early > next week. It will run after the > first maintenance release after the facelift is deployed. > > We are starting in on normalizing when and to who the tracker sends > email (remember the large spreadsheet > from just before the Dallas meeting). We're looking into making that > more data-driven (as opposed to hard-coded) > where it's feasible to do so. >> >> 2. Community & Other Projects >> - Present a directory view of active, archived, and unknown >> I-Ds -- Robert > This has become "normalizing the way artifacts are stored and presented". > The draft Archive and the Repository are now exposed with http and rsync. > We have been classifying the contents of the filesystem, and moving > cruft aside. > I expect we will complete the majority of restructuring where we are > holding files > before the next tools call. >> - Can we turning off the FTP service? -- Robert > I expect talking this down to take a noticeable fraction of our > meeting time. >> - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg >> - IETF Meeting App -- Alexa >> >> 3. RFC Services Projects >> - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik >> - DOI -- Alice and Heather >> - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather >> - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert > Nothing new to report here. We will cover the dependencies these are > waiting on later in the call. >> - Fonts for RFCs -- Heather >> - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather >> >> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org >> >> 5. Server Infrastructure >> - iCal servers -- AMS >> - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert > We are testing with the full archive, adding testers slowly. > We are starting to get some load data, but the number of users is > still too low to extrapolate from > (see http://devc.amsl.com/mrtg/) > The testers we have are finding some fun issues that were pre-existing > in the archive, but IMAP made easier to find. > We are gathering information about how to configure clients at > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/tools/trac/wiki/ImapTesting > Alexey is making some tweaks to how the server responds to > subscription requests to induce the better behavior out of clients as > we learn more about them. > >> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert > In progress - the above topics on normalizing where artifacts are kept > and analyzing how and when email is sent and received are the active > efforts. >> >> 6. IDIQ Contractors >> - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray >> >> 7. Parking Lot >> - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS >> - RFC Editor automatic stats and reporting RFP -- Heather >> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert >> >> 8. AOB >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Tue Apr 14 09:29:31 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5815E1B2E47 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 09:29:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lsmW8zm-CSdu for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 09:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1on0647.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fc10::647]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9A411B2E53 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 09:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.11] (96.247.193.52) by BN1PR06MB229.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.242.215.141) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.130.23; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 16:28:53 +0000 From: Ray Pelletier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_247BF86D-535D-4ACC-BFEE-1C80A8FEC1AB" Message-ID: <00BE0E23-144C-4194-9407-8301B6B848E8@isoc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 12:31:48 -0400 References: <930803850.90682.1428343574434.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2tc415.webex.com> To: IETF Tools Development X-Mail-Calendar-Part: Yes X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) X-Originating-IP: [96.247.193.52] X-ClientProxiedBy: DM2PR10CA0027.namprd10.prod.outlook.com (25.160.213.37) To BN1PR06MB229.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.242.215.141) Authentication-Results: ietf.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none; X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BN1PR06MB229; X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: BMV:1; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(6049001)(51704005)(243025005)(377454003)(87976001)(450100001)(568964001)(19580405001)(19580395003)(229853001)(57306001)(76176999)(77156002)(62966003)(50986999)(92566002)(107886001)(36756003)(33656002)(575784001)(82746002)(110136001)(84326002)(122386002)(50226001)(86362001)(512954002)(69556001)(16799955002)(42186005)(40100003)(15975445007)(83716003)(5890100001)(19617315012)(46102003)(66066001)(77096005)(24704002)(104396002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:BN1PR06MB229; H:[10.0.1.11]; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; X-Microsoft-Antispam-PRVS: X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(5002010)(5005006); SRVR:BN1PR06MB229; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BN1PR06MB229; X-Forefront-PRVS: 054642504A X-OriginatorOrg: isoc.org X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Apr 2015 16:28:53.0364 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN1PR06MB229 Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] WebEx meeting invitation: Tools Cmte X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 16:29:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_247BF86D-535D-4ACC-BFEE-1C80A8FEC1AB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > Date: April 6, 2015 at 2:06:14 PM EDT > From: Ray Pelletier > Reply-To: > To: > Subject: (Forward to others) WebEx meeting invitation: Tools Cmte >=20 > You can forward this invitation to others. > Hello, > Ray Pelletier invites you to join this WebEx meeting. > =20 > Tools Cmte > Tuesday, April 14, 2015 > 1:00 pm | Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00) | 1 hr > =20 > Join WebEx meeting = > Meeting number: 823 784 377 > =20 > Join by phone > 1-877-668-4490 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada) > 1-408-792-6300 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > Access code: 823 784 377 > Global call-in numbers = | Toll-free calling restrictions = > =20 > Add this meeting = to your calendar. > =20 > Can't join the meeting? 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--Apple-Mail=_C4AF2363-FD91-477B-9182-FEDBBFEFF8E2-- --Apple-Mail=_247BF86D-535D-4ACC-BFEE-1C80A8FEC1AB-- From nobody Tue Apr 14 11:25:03 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D547E1A8765 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.321 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.321 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id we651jysbgJI for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven.nostrum.com [69.55.229.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C974E1A802A for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t3EINiBB013981 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 13:23:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <552D5B2B.80803@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 13:23:39 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF Tools Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Short summary of status of the IMAP server X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 18:25:03 -0000 We are getting some good feedback from early testing. Here are a few highlights: * The server is very responsive - I'm finding the access to be incredibly useful in my own testing (mostly due to the organization and search features in the clients I'm using to test with. * We have a non-trivial number of malformed Date headers that we discussed during the call. I'll look into what will be involved in moving those to an X- header, preserving the original information and perhaps adding an explanation, and providing a well-formed Date header. * We have a _lot_ of spam, and a lot of lists (particularly mirrors of external, closed, lists) that are ingesting a significant number of new spam messages per day. These are easier to see with an IMAP client, and are more expensive to us when we expose the archives over IMAP (since clients will download them). * We are getting some traffic data, but not yet enough to interpolate from. That said, I made a client download the entire archive from a high-bandwidth location. You can see the result at http://devc.amsl.com/mrtg/ - look at the burst that lasted most of Friday and into Saturday. * We are knocking the server over with early testing, but Alexey thinks he's isolated and corrected the problem. We'll expand the tester base when we've checked that it's as stable as expected with the correction. RjS From nobody Tue Apr 14 11:39:02 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112331AC3CE for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:39:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HwgECST-N_W4 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B79B1AC3B5 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t3EIavoO015147 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 14 Apr 2015 13:36:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <552D5E44.4060802@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 13:36:52 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Larson References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development , Glen Barney Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] DAViCal Command Line X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 18:39:00 -0000 Thanks Matt - Adding tool-development to continue the conversation from the call. On 4/14/15 12:10 PM, Matt Larson wrote: > Greetings! > > I do not remember if I sent this out before, so I am sending it out again. Apologies if this is a duplicate. Here are the commands needed to create an account and calendar in DAViCal from the command line. > > Setting up a user > > /a/www/www6s/DAViCal/cmdlnutl/davical-cmdlnutl --user --create --fullname '' --email > --dateformat 'I' --principaltype Person --password > --locale en --defaultperm read There's a small mismatch between what that implies and what we said on the call. If I heard you correctly, the username above wouldn't be an individual's username, but would instead be something like "nvo3-chairs"? What do the usernames created in the system so far look like? > > Setting up a calendar > > /a/www/www6s/DAViCal/cmdlnutl/davical-cmdlnutl --user --create --collection '' --public Is the username provided here the one that will be set up to have access to the newly created calendar? (as opposed to some user that has permission to create new calendars - I assume that falls out from running this as root?) > > Matt > > ------------------------------------------- > Matthew Larson, Asst. IT Director > Association Management Solutions > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 > http://www.amsl.com > From nobody Tue Apr 14 11:42:33 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827701AC3D8 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:42:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kFW6qu3O8wUx for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613A81AC3E7 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665231E5DD8; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:41:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uzASvIDl2O41; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.21] (68-204-56-146.res.bhn.net [68.204.56.146]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 03D281E3EBE; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) From: Matt Larson In-Reply-To: <552D5E44.4060802@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 14:42:11 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <552D5E44.4060802@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development , Glen Barney Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] DAViCal Command Line X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 18:42:31 -0000 Hi Robert, Comments inline. > On Apr 14, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 > Thanks Matt - >=20 > Adding tool-development to continue the conversation from the call. >=20 > On 4/14/15 12:10 PM, Matt Larson wrote: >> Greetings! >>=20 >> I do not remember if I sent this out before, so I am sending it out = again. Apologies if this is a duplicate. Here are the commands needed = to create an account and calendar in DAViCal from the command line. >>=20 >> Setting up a user >>=20 >> /a/www/www6s/DAViCal/cmdlnutl/davical-cmdlnutl --user = --create --fullname '' --email >> --dateformat 'I' --principaltype Person --password = >> --locale en --defaultperm read > There's a small mismatch between what that implies and what we said on = the call. > If I heard you correctly, the username above wouldn't be an = individual's username, but would instead be something like = "nvo3-chairs"? > What do the usernames created in the system so far look like? The username is simply the WG acronym. Since the username ends up in = the subscription URLs, this produces nice, clean URLs. For example, the = 6MAN calendar account is "6MAN". >=20 >>=20 >> Setting up a calendar >>=20 >> /a/www/www6s/DAViCal/cmdlnutl/davical-cmdlnutl --user = --create --collection '' --public > Is the username provided here the one that will be set up to have = access to the newly created calendar? > (as opposed to some user that has permission to create new calendars - = I assume that falls out from running this as root?) The username here is the account the calendar belongs to. So to create = a calendar for 6MAN, the command was: /a/www/www6s/DAViCal/cmdlnutl/davical-cmdlnutl --user 6MAN --create = --collection 'calendar' --public The suggested default is to use 'calendar' as the name for the user's = primary calendar. This also ends up being a component in the URL. Matt >=20 ------------------------------------------- Matthew Larson, Asst. IT Director Association Management Solutions Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 http://www.amsl.com From nobody Tue Apr 14 12:33:53 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20F51B2F50 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 12:33:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lvcE7Xqg5avs for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 12:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BAF1B2F53 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 12:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F374CF240EB; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 15:33:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7Opqoefj2xMn; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-96-255-133-185.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.133.185]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4641AF240E6; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 15:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 15:33:02 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <552D5E44.4060802@nostrum.com> To: Matt Larson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Cc: Glen Barney , IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] DAViCal Command Line X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 19:33:53 -0000 For consistency with the mail list conventions, we should probably use = all lowercase for calendar names and usernames. Russ On Apr 14, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Matt Larson wrote: > Hi Robert, >=20 > Comments inline. >=20 >> On Apr 14, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >>=20 >> Thanks Matt - >>=20 >> Adding tool-development to continue the conversation from the call. >>=20 >> On 4/14/15 12:10 PM, Matt Larson wrote: >>> Greetings! >>>=20 >>> I do not remember if I sent this out before, so I am sending it out = again. Apologies if this is a duplicate. Here are the commands needed = to create an account and calendar in DAViCal from the command line. >>>=20 >>> Setting up a user >>>=20 >>> /a/www/www6s/DAViCal/cmdlnutl/davical-cmdlnutl --user = --create --fullname '' --email >>> --dateformat 'I' --principaltype Person --password = >>> --locale en --defaultperm read >> There's a small mismatch between what that implies and what we said = on the call. >> If I heard you correctly, the username above wouldn't be an = individual's username, but would instead be something like = "nvo3-chairs"? >> What do the usernames created in the system so far look like? >=20 > The username is simply the WG acronym. Since the username ends up in = the subscription URLs, this produces nice, clean URLs. For example, the = 6MAN calendar account is "6MAN". >=20 >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Setting up a calendar >>>=20 >>> /a/www/www6s/DAViCal/cmdlnutl/davical-cmdlnutl --user = --create --collection '' --public >> Is the username provided here the one that will be set up to have = access to the newly created calendar? >> (as opposed to some user that has permission to create new calendars = - I assume that falls out from running this as root?) >=20 > The username here is the account the calendar belongs to. So to = create a calendar for 6MAN, the command was: >=20 > /a/www/www6s/DAViCal/cmdlnutl/davical-cmdlnutl --user 6MAN --create = --collection 'calendar' --public >=20 > The suggested default is to use 'calendar' as the name for the user's = primary calendar. This also ends up being a component in the URL. >=20 > Matt >>=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------- > Matthew Larson, Asst. IT Director > Association Management Solutions > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 > http://www.amsl.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Wed Apr 15 14:00:31 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949391A8F3A for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:00:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JUUhc6uAEj0l for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09541A8F39 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62829F240EE for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 17:00:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c6eCXS9+qH8F for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-96-255-133-185.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.133.185]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A1DF240E9 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:59:47 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: To: IETF Tools Development X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] New datatracker release: v6.0.1 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:00:30 -0000 Thanks for all of the work! The Datatracker v6.0.1 release notes include: > * Replaced google-served fonts with self-hosted ones. After a testing > period with the current 'access plus 4 hours' Cache-Control setting, > we should probably increase the cache control for external static files. How does this get handled? Russ From nobody Wed Apr 15 14:24:50 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5861A907D for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:24:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3aqqVhDj95of for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 393DD1A9079 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h205n24-s-oev-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com ([78.68.120.205]:62502 helo=vigonier.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1YiUnb-0005EN-EX; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:24:44 -0700 Message-ID: <552ED712.7040100@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 23:24:34 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Housley , IETF Tools Development References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UV3pWCQaJQKjsA6m3gvmnjg12Ljo6w0TK" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 78.68.120.205 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik-sent@levkowetz.com, tools-development@ietf.org, housley@vigilsec.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] New datatracker release: v6.0.1 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:24:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --UV3pWCQaJQKjsA6m3gvmnjg12Ljo6w0TK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Russ, On 2015-04-15 22:59, Russ Housley wrote: > Thanks for all of the work! >=20 > The Datatracker v6.0.1 release notes include: >=20 >> * Replaced google-served fonts with self-hosted ones. After a testin= g >> period with the current 'access plus 4 hours' Cache-Control setting= , >> we should probably increase the cache control for external static f= iles. >=20 > How does this get handled? I expect to change the layout in one of the next releases so that all external files are in one tree of the static files area, with names that include version strings, while our own files (which can change from release to release to release without being renamed), are served from another tree under the static files area. That should let us set a very long (4 weeks or more) Cache-Control: max-age setting for the version-named external files. I expect to handle the necessary changes to the Apache config at release time in cooperation with Glen and Jermaine. (This is not something we can easily fix at once, because external files and own static files are commingled in the same trees in many cases, even if I've tried to move external files into 'lib' directories -- that's not enough to let us easily set different max-age values.) Best regards, Henrik --UV3pWCQaJQKjsA6m3gvmnjg12Ljo6w0TK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVLtcZAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaBkgQAL4ycZ0ky/WxVabxiPFVeopA DgL6ALy/A3HnlBiIh29unpOBkCiENiTd+6H9ycmoYhbd8iTJdC+K+wlQccT+fsYl mIqeR0Un/ywtS95Fz+eU4KGqUvIOgRUhMGrBIC4FeM6OmIwoS04UWmd2Ll5yoNjg bjOwBj0mX1F+m0i/gQElY9ZWKcxSZrWdTm/Pqm1tP0pJJ0CNpYuGqt5XaXBRfk/0 Z8vjT7AR0JMi7W20CusREekUfXgdqI8uOs6WmUcka6ATCNa005HullDVML47iV0z 1YafLEwho50auxF8kqIJqGPcAgmSIdfh2kPFr4bMV30vQghBnL2502T/FQT4ispg qIoI1eVg6qulTrFQvZQt04Qb/qNothgsb4oyvfPMO+rjQzDOuqe1ufnuYtefCO25 Ndz1XxBTOwEvP5QbqyVOWZrVpHnx+yA9X0iJW06S9UkcPM8Bpjhub56KgCZt94NF gnvcXBRcYJhhMFborpc9pvCLe8M0ww+Y430rQ2W73m0PX7SDetcNP5/kRih+PHha SGpcGlLINTEbkOElqe8dmvLFeQMNFVX3/WVbaycbvQKPn9dGJrD34/TC+Az6Jcle aSO1f9H59Q8Zus0QR2WSPsvL7JYsHQvV358p9NKx+GUI8Sva64qfriq/fHLBPQl1 HXrnLbnNOhPkSyTH77X5 =zlqL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UV3pWCQaJQKjsA6m3gvmnjg12Ljo6w0TK-- From nobody Mon Apr 20 09:28:22 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B790C1B2FF1 for ; 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Mon, 20 Apr 2015 09:26:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexa Morris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 09:28:19 -0700 Message-Id: To: IETF Tools Development Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Sendlaterdate: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 09:28:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] IETF Android App X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 16:28:20 -0000 Hi Everyone, The IETF Android app code is now available on GitHub, at = https://github.com/d-ellebasi/ietfsched.=20 Alexa ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com From nobody Mon Apr 20 10:15:59 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DC31B2B85 for ; 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Lou On 4/20/2015 12:28 PM, Alexa Morris wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > The IETF Android app code is now available on GitHub, at https://github.com/d-ellebasi/ietfsched. > > Alexa > > ---------- > Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF > 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 > Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 > Email: amorris@amsl.com > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > www.amsl.com > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From nobody Wed Apr 22 15:50:01 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CD51B3B01 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 15:50:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.888 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.888 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G2jSJSZAaMuF for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 15:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6F01B3B08 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 15:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073231E5D94 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 15:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6FB91E5D92 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 15:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qcyk17 with SMTP id k17so559048qcy.1 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 15:49:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.55.21.17 with SMTP id f17mr53565947qkh.41.1429742992534; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 15:49:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.96.140.201 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 15:49:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 15:49:32 -0700 Message-ID: To: IETF Tools Development Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1147f24830b1e9051457fb64 Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Proceedings optimizations? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: glen@amsl.com List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 22:50:00 -0000 --001a1147f24830b1e9051457fb64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dear Tools-Development... Recently there has been some discussion about optimizing various parts of the server filesystem, especially in regards to the placement and location of Internet-Drafts. I note that we now have a one-stop location for all Internet-Drafts we know about "/archive/id/". But there is one additional location that contains Internet-Drafts that we didn't consider - and that's the proceedings directories. As you may know, each proceedings subdirectory for each meeting contains actual copies of all of the Internet-Drafts referenced during that particular meeting. # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/91/id | wc -l 719 # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/90/id | wc -l 1273 In the past, when we "burned CDs" of each meeting's proceedings, that might have made sense. But we no longer do that, and I'm wondering if perhaps there might be a better way of handling this - such as hard- or sym-linking - in the future? Submitted for your consideration.... Thanks! Glen --001a1147f24830b1e9051457fb64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Tools-Development...

Rece= ntly there has been some discussion about optimizing various parts of the s= erver filesystem, especially in regards to the placement and location of In= ternet-Drafts.=C2=A0 I note that we now have a one-stop location for all In= ternet-Drafts we know about "/archive/id/".

But= there is one additional location that contains Internet-Drafts that we did= n't consider - and that's the proceedings directories.=C2=A0 As you= may know, each proceedings subdirectory for each meeting contains actual c= opies of all of the Internet-Drafts referenced during that particular meeti= ng.

# ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/91/id | wc -l
719

# ls /= a/www/www6s/proceedings/90/id | wc -l
1273

In the past= , when we "burned CDs" of each meeting's proceedings, that mi= ght have made sense.=C2=A0 But we no longer do that, and I'm wondering = if perhaps there might be a better way of handling this - such as hard- or = sym-linking - in the future?

Submitted for your considera= tion....

Thanks!
Glen

--001a1147f24830b1e9051457fb64-- From nobody Wed Apr 22 18:38:23 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7861B2D03 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:38:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6xTbtC2Zkx9J for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68EB1B2D01 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24A59A4029; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 21:38:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c6Zs24Uyl++L; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 21:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-96-255-133-185.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.133.185]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91249A4021; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 21:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 21:37:37 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7D537F73-03D8-409A-940E-3DBEC9272C83@vigilsec.com> References: To: glen@amsl.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Proceedings optimizations? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 01:38:21 -0000 Glen: Thanks for the suggestion. Back when we burned CD-ROMs for the proceedings, it made sense to have = an actual copy. We do not do that any more, so it seems to me that = links to the archive copy is completely fine. What do others think? Russ On Apr 22, 2015, at 6:49 PM, Glen wrote: > Dear Tools-Development... >=20 > Recently there has been some discussion about optimizing various parts = of the server filesystem, especially in regards to the placement and = location of Internet-Drafts. I note that we now have a one-stop = location for all Internet-Drafts we know about "/archive/id/". >=20 > But there is one additional location that contains Internet-Drafts = that we didn't consider - and that's the proceedings directories. As = you may know, each proceedings subdirectory for each meeting contains = actual copies of all of the Internet-Drafts referenced during that = particular meeting. >=20 > # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/91/id | wc -l > 719 >=20 > # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/90/id | wc -l > 1273 >=20 > In the past, when we "burned CDs" of each meeting's proceedings, that = might have made sense. But we no longer do that, and I'm wondering if = perhaps there might be a better way of handling this - such as hard- or = sym-linking - in the future? >=20 > Submitted for your consideration.... >=20 > Thanks! > Glen >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Wed Apr 22 18:40:49 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140811B2D04 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:40:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.895 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.895 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hgoHSQ6LHAam for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sobco.sobco.com (unknown [136.248.127.164]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0621B2D01 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sobco.sobco.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC2A1A4FFF5; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 21:40:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sobco.com Received: from sobco.sobco.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sobco.sobco.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5B6F3nnlrZUM; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 21:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from golem.sobco.com (golem.sobco.com [136.248.127.162]) by sobco.sobco.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 566251A4FFDB; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 21:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) From: "Scott O. Bradner" In-Reply-To: <7D537F73-03D8-409A-940E-3DBEC9272C83@vigilsec.com> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 21:40:41 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <16DC0B19-9744-4194-BFDF-AF6ECAECBB92@sobco.com> References: <7D537F73-03D8-409A-940E-3DBEC9272C83@vigilsec.com> To: Russ Housley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development , glen@amsl.com Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Proceedings optimizations? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 01:40:46 -0000 links make sense to me Scott > On Apr 22, 2015, at 9:37 PM, Russ Housley = wrote: >=20 > Glen: >=20 > Thanks for the suggestion. >=20 > Back when we burned CD-ROMs for the proceedings, it made sense to have = an actual copy. We do not do that any more, so it seems to me that = links to the archive copy is completely fine. >=20 > What do others think? >=20 > Russ >=20 >=20 > On Apr 22, 2015, at 6:49 PM, Glen wrote: >=20 >> Dear Tools-Development... >>=20 >> Recently there has been some discussion about optimizing various = parts of the server filesystem, especially in regards to the placement = and location of Internet-Drafts. I note that we now have a one-stop = location for all Internet-Drafts we know about "/archive/id/". >>=20 >> But there is one additional location that contains Internet-Drafts = that we didn't consider - and that's the proceedings directories. As = you may know, each proceedings subdirectory for each meeting contains = actual copies of all of the Internet-Drafts referenced during that = particular meeting. >>=20 >> # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/91/id | wc -l >> 719 >>=20 >> # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/90/id | wc -l >> 1273 >>=20 >> In the past, when we "burned CDs" of each meeting's proceedings, that = might have made sense. But we no longer do that, and I'm wondering if = perhaps there might be a better way of handling this - such as hard- or = sym-linking - in the future? >>=20 >> Submitted for your consideration.... >>=20 >> Thanks! >> Glen >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Wed Apr 22 19:29:43 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2571B2CBC for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:29:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.666 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.666 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b5y7O5lNnE_E for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.226]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 848651A00DB for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10549 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 2015 02:29:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy10.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2015 02:29:34 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id KEVP1q00e2SSUrH01EVScD; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 20:29:31 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=FPmImYYs c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=gaoa-Wm5cTEA:10 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=AqI0xvK1tnMA:10 a=e9J7MTPGsLIA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=jGqiy6jZAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=WLOqxRTidt4-yr12GhIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=5MhciiGFPljZ9CNJtTIA:9 a=qCvKLcfJlrPYZuhW:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:To:From; bh=y2rJIY3vUQkeodNOpadHFZ5d+jB0iqMKgff48qZnoXQ=; b=BTcLq7EuC9JuBQ1+/DM6F6/WXZWvnh+5ILz9N6INme/AY2igaf7Q039DDS2O/Yqv0DB/nWA58xGKhwYc0X0n0KRXNutkgmAegD0Nb4OzbzPYwC2K2eWHxdidHUiANVLu; Received: from [74.96.190.213] (port=58000 helo=[11.4.0.117]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Yl6tI-0005XB-VW; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 20:29:25 -0600 From: Lou Berger To: , IETF Tools Development Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 22:29:24 -0400 Message-ID: <14ce41ba030.27e9.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 AquaMail/1.5.5.19 (build: 21050019) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------14ce41bb93c543d27e942ff6050" X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 74.96.190.213 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Proceedings optimizations? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 02:29:42 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------------14ce41bb93c543d27e942ff6050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Glen, I think links are fine (and am pressed to contrive a scenario where hard links would have been an issue even when cds were produced. ) That said, what are you trying to optimize? I suspect that the bytes saved on disk will be quite small, perhaps 5-7G, when evaluated against modern disk sizes and labor to optimize.... Lou On April 22, 2015 6:50:26 PM Glen wrote: > Dear Tools-Development... > > Recently there has been some discussion about optimizing various parts of > the server filesystem, especially in regards to the placement and location > of Internet-Drafts. I note that we now have a one-stop location for all > Internet-Drafts we know about "/archive/id/". > > But there is one additional location that contains Internet-Drafts that we > didn't consider - and that's the proceedings directories. As you may know, > each proceedings subdirectory for each meeting contains actual copies of > all of the Internet-Drafts referenced during that particular meeting. > > # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/91/id | wc -l > 719 > > # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/90/id | wc -l > 1273 > > In the past, when we "burned CDs" of each meeting's proceedings, that might > have made sense. But we no longer do that, and I'm wondering if perhaps > there might be a better way of handling this - such as hard- or sym-linking > - in the future? > > Submitted for your consideration.... > > Thanks! > Glen > > > > ---------- > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > ------------14ce41bb93c543d27e942ff6050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Glen,

I think links are fine (and am pressed to contrive a scenario where hard links would have been an issue even when cds were produced. )

That said, what are you trying to optimize? I suspect that the bytes saved on disk will be quite small, perhaps 5-7G,  when evaluated against modern disk sizes and labor to optimize....

Lou

On April 22, 2015 6:50:26 PM Glen <glen@amsl.com> wrote:

Dear Tools-Development...

Recently there has been some discussion about optimizing various parts of the server filesystem, especially in regards to the placement and location of Internet-Drafts.  I note that we now have a one-stop location for all Internet-Drafts we know about "/archive/id/".

But there is one additional location that contains Internet-Drafts that we didn't consider - and that's the proceedings directories.  As you may know, each proceedings subdirectory for each meeting contains actual copies of all of the Internet-Drafts referenced during that particular meeting.

# ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/91/id | wc -l
719

# ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/90/id | wc -l
1273

In the past, when we "burned CDs" of each meeting's proceedings, that might have made sense.  But we no longer do that, and I'm wondering if perhaps there might be a better way of handling this - such as hard- or sym-linking - in the future?

Submitted for your consideration....

Thanks!
Glen


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------------14ce41bb93c543d27e942ff6050-- From nobody Wed Apr 22 19:45:56 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7AF1B2DFF for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:45:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.288 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.288 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iD-Qy-vffAwc for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A3D1B2E0F for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E602A1E5D8A for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-f42.google.com (mail-qg0-f42.google.com [209.85.192.42]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D6CF1E5D89 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qgeb100 with SMTP id b100so2458369qge.3 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:45:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.108.201 with SMTP id j67mr631303qgf.79.1429757144798; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:45:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.96.140.201 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:45:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14ce41ba030.27e9.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> References: <14ce41ba030.27e9.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> From: Glen Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 19:45:24 -0700 Message-ID: To: IETF Tools Development Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1139b2c2bb1ea205145b469d Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Proceedings optimizations? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: glen@amsl.com List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 02:45:55 -0000 --001a1139b2c2bb1ea205145b469d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Lou - I am not necessarily trying to drive anything specific here, but I am rather supporting the efforts of the Tools Team whenever I possibly can. In this case, I *think* (but he will correct me) that it was Robert who originally began working on optimizing things - not only for space but also for efficiency and manageability - so I'll defer to him on any commentary as to the reasoning. Thanks! :-) Glen On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > Glen, > > I think links are fine (and am pressed to contrive a scenario where hard > links would have been an issue even when cds were produced. ) > > That said, what are you trying to optimize? I suspect that the bytes saved > on disk will be quite small, perhaps 5-7G, when evaluated against modern > disk sizes and labor to optimize.... > > Lou > > On April 22, 2015 6:50:26 PM Glen wrote: > >> Dear Tools-Development... >> >> Recently there has been some discussion about optimizing various parts of >> the server filesystem, especially in regards to the placement and location >> of Internet-Drafts. I note that we now have a one-stop location for all >> Internet-Drafts we know about "/archive/id/". >> >> But there is one additional location that contains Internet-Drafts that >> we didn't consider - and that's the proceedings directories. As you may >> know, each proceedings subdirectory for each meeting contains actual copies >> of all of the Internet-Drafts referenced during that particular meeting. >> >> # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/91/id | wc -l >> 719 >> >> # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/90/id | wc -l >> 1273 >> >> In the past, when we "burned CDs" of each meeting's proceedings, that >> might have made sense. But we no longer do that, and I'm wondering if >> perhaps there might be a better way of handling this - such as hard- or >> sym-linking - in the future? >> >> Submitted for your consideration.... >> >> Thanks! >> Glen >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> >> > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > --001a1139b2c2bb1ea205145b469d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lou -

I am not necessaril= y trying to drive anything specific here, but I am rather supporting the ef= forts of the Tools Team whenever I possibly can.

In this case,= I *think* (but he will correct me) that it was Robert who originally began= working on optimizing things - not only for space but also for efficiency = and manageability - so I'll defer to him on any commentary as to the re= asoning.

Thanks!=C2=A0 :-)

Glen

=


=
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Lou Berger <lbe= rger@labn.net> wrote:

Glen,

I think links are fine (and am pressed to contrive a scenario where hard links would have been an issue even when cds were produced. )

That said, what are you trying to optimize? I suspect that the bytes saved on disk will be quite small, perhaps 5-7G,=C2=A0 when evaluated against modern disk sizes and labor to optimize....

Lou

On April 22, 2015 6:50:26 PM Glen <glen@amsl.com> wrote:

=
Dear Tools-Development...

Recently there has been some discussion about optimizing various parts of the server filesystem, especially in regards to the placement and location of Internet-Drafts.=C2=A0 I note that we now have a one-stop location for all Internet-Drafts we know about "/archive/id/".

But there is one additional location that contains Internet-Drafts that we didn't consider - and that's the proceedings directories.=C2=A0 As you may know, each proceed= ings subdirectory for each meeting contains actual copies of all of the Internet-Drafts referenced during that particular meeting.

# ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/91/id | wc -l
719

# ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/90/id | wc -l
1273

In the past, when we "burned CDs" of each meeting's proceedings, that might have made sense.=C2=A0 But we no longer do that, and I'm wondering if perhaps there might be a better way of handling this - such as hard- or sym-linking - in the future?

Submitted for your consideration....

Thanks!
Glen


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X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 03:05:45 -0000 Me too.=20 Bob > On Apr 22, 2015, at 18:40, Scott O. Bradner wrote: >=20 > links make sense to me >=20 > Scott >=20 >> On Apr 22, 2015, at 9:37 PM, Russ Housley wrote: >>=20 >> Glen: >>=20 >> Thanks for the suggestion. >>=20 >> Back when we burned CD-ROMs for the proceedings, it made sense to have an= actual copy. We do not do that any more, so it seems to me that links to t= he archive copy is completely fine. >>=20 >> What do others think? >>=20 >> Russ >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 6:49 PM, Glen wrote: >>>=20 >>> Dear Tools-Development... >>>=20 >>> Recently there has been some discussion about optimizing various parts o= f the server filesystem, especially in regards to the placement and location= of Internet-Drafts. I note that we now have a one-stop location for all In= ternet-Drafts we know about "/archive/id/". >>>=20 >>> But there is one additional location that contains Internet-Drafts that w= e didn't consider - and that's the proceedings directories. As you may know= , each proceedings subdirectory for each meeting contains actual copies of a= ll of the Internet-Drafts referenced during that particular meeting. >>>=20 >>> # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/91/id | wc -l >>> 719 >>>=20 >>> # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/90/id | wc -l >>> 1273 >>>=20 >>> In the past, when we "burned CDs" of each meeting's proceedings, that mi= ght have made sense. But we no longer do that, and I'm wondering if perhaps= there might be a better way of handling this - such as hard- or sym-linking= - in the future? >>>=20 >>> Submitted for your consideration.... >>>=20 >>> Thanks! >>> Glen >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Thu Apr 23 03:23:51 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075571ACD2C for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 03:23:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JlXxoVnBimsW for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 03:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED1F31A90EB for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 03:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2a01:3f0:1:0:c460:c3ec:9eeb:841f] (port=55093 helo=tannat.netnod.se) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1YlEIB-0000PL-Ni; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 03:23:36 -0700 Message-ID: <5538C824.4060001@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:23:32 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Housley , glen@amsl.com References: <7D537F73-03D8-409A-940E-3DBEC9272C83@vigilsec.com> In-Reply-To: <7D537F73-03D8-409A-940E-3DBEC9272C83@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mI4Pw0arqpiJvowt7nPD8R6MU46Jx7tqR" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:c460:c3ec:9eeb:841f X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik-sent@levkowetz.com, tools-development@ietf.org, glen@amsl.com, housley@vigilsec.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Proceedings optimizations? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:23:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --mI4Pw0arqpiJvowt7nPD8R6MU46Jx7tqR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015-04-23 03:37, Russ Housley wrote: > Glen: >=20 > Thanks for the suggestion. >=20 > Back when we burned CD-ROMs for the proceedings, it made sense to > have an actual copy. We do not do that any more, so it seems to me > that links to the archive copy is completely fine. Yup, agreed, with a preference for hardlinks in this case, if the files are on the same filesystem. Henrik >=20 > What do others think? >=20 > Russ >=20 >=20 > On Apr 22, 2015, at 6:49 PM, Glen wrote: >=20 >> Dear Tools-Development... >> >> Recently there has been some discussion about optimizing various parts= of the server filesystem, especially in regards to the placement and loc= ation of Internet-Drafts. I note that we now have a one-stop location fo= r all Internet-Drafts we know about "/archive/id/". >> >> But there is one additional location that contains Internet-Drafts tha= t we didn't consider - and that's the proceedings directories. As you ma= y know, each proceedings subdirectory for each meeting contains actual co= pies of all of the Internet-Drafts referenced during that particular meet= ing. >> >> # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/91/id | wc -l >> 719 >> >> # ls /a/www/www6s/proceedings/90/id | wc -l >> 1273 >> >> In the past, when we "burned CDs" of each meeting's proceedings, that = might have made sense. But we no longer do that, and I'm wondering if pe= rhaps there might be a better way of handling this - such as hard- or sym= -linking - in the future? >> >> Submitted for your consideration.... >> >> Thanks! >> Glen >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 --mI4Pw0arqpiJvowt7nPD8R6MU46Jx7tqR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVOMgkAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaQz0QAKDepvbYMXAEKY1IEoBIO17P uSBzLw2ZYpHgjAeaaYWzWm1RyMweEFyB24T0daZomh0wCr1vX2vfyu1NmorhB3f7 FwtC9sG9vT1kexf6St44KRKCLcE0k8vAqIlvu6HTj26Cyb+aVNfdZGQ6y2IqkqD5 m0ThYarR6a6qBQ3w5wlUsCxII7hqsrZYDVl5W1KQptnPLryKxj5r332OL50nTeKA jIMPMrLL5di0dAyizADoeLyUuiIgaJX1lv1vBKIYVjU8kK10mT4ZHf1b3c6Cc7oU kDkWwBk9lbllIUD57dfIzZbwA+yExsX4TIaASHatkshiiaq+l5LLwo3AVrL8f9lU qMpaaXGKBeJxNgTOjh1F6XMoD52Jg2BviiIIHRpEPV83s91LAOV7j1HWbtgyn2/F Z9afpeJNGvW/U7juXi+ssIcUneexW4kWU/gMF8iwExZ68srb9t64pp19/E8voK3k lIrbFrXxqXPbpe51pGaCEeEMS0MDlPE0bnt9XZ4DZjr0UGqCknruRdMGA0Web8Ow P4Cf2cDJNu+m8IkCTw+Z4t7Q3Cz/klFCiOhzw34gARQT76K3PQLFPbYnNOL58Ez/ NS2cB1NopaJT5LWqZMiHzzImjDqJEYNWGwUu7MH6S3cZMsrVAMoO5qSpQ4Ha79ox GQeCR7I7FhCL2owDDCql =9xCO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mI4Pw0arqpiJvowt7nPD8R6MU46Jx7tqR-- From nobody Thu Apr 23 06:37:32 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83571B309C for ; 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CM=0.500; S=0.200(2014051901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.229.23] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Proceedings optimizations? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 13:37:31 -0000 On 4/23/15 6:23 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > On 2015-04-23 03:37, Russ Housley wrote: >> Glen: >> >> Thanks for the suggestion. >> >> Back when we burned CD-ROMs for the proceedings, it made sense to >> have an actual copy. We do not do that any more, so it seems to me >> that links to the archive copy is completely fine. > Yup, agreed, with a preference for hardlinks in this case, if the > files are on the same filesystem. +1 From nobody Fri Apr 24 09:21:06 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30521B37A5 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 09:21:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UZxsBfrWbNWc for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 09:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53AE41B3769 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 09:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t3OGKa5U031972 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 11:20:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-170-237-80.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.237.80] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <553A6D4F.1050309@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 11:20:31 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF Tools Development References: In-Reply-To: X-Forwarded-Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030705020005090806000400" Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Storing Large WG-related Artifacts X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 16:21:05 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030705020005090806000400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit FYI -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Storing Large WG-related Artifacts Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 11:15:53 -0500 From: Adam W. Montville To: wgchairs@ietf.org Hi, Has anyone here ever needed to post large artifacts for their WG? We have that need in sacm - meeting recordings are the largest we have (the collection is over 1GB now), otherwise, a few MB of data per file, which can probably be posted to the wiki. At present, I’m using Dropbox to store, and make available, meeting recordings (so as not to clog our available space on WebEx). Unfortunately, this can’t be accessed by everyone all the time, so I’m hoping to find some IETF-related home for such files. I had originally wanted the wiki to be their home, but, upload size is limited. Regards, Adam --------------030705020005090806000400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit FYI


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Storing Large WG-related Artifacts
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 11:15:53 -0500
From: Adam W. Montville <adam.w.montville@gmail.com>
To: wgchairs@ietf.org 


Hi,

Has anyone here ever needed to post large artifacts for their WG?  We have that need in sacm - meeting recordings are the largest we have (the collection is over 1GB now), otherwise, a few MB of data per file, which can probably be posted to the wiki.  

At present, I’m using Dropbox to store, and make available, meeting recordings (so as not to clog our available space on WebEx).  Unfortunately, this can’t be accessed by everyone all the time, so I’m hoping to find some IETF-related home for such files.  I had originally wanted the wiki to be their home, but, upload size is limited.

Regards,

Adam


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