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TEFSTQpFTkQ6VkVWRU5UCkVORDpWQ0FMRU5EQVIK ------=_Part_60181_188321243.1430899196658-- From nobody Wed May 6 01:31:34 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBBC1A9068 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 01:31:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EUdxp7W0N0G4 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 01:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F5591A6F13 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 01:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local ([109.144.209.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t468VTWx064662 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:31:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [109.144.209.35] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <5549D15C.2080506@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 09:31:24 +0100 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <1641948234.60183.1430899196658.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2tc415.webex.com> In-Reply-To: <1641948234.60183.1430899196658.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2tc415.webex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] WebEx meeting invitation: Tools Cmte X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 08:31:32 -0000 We have a few things to add to the agenda for this call from the IESG/IAB retreat: 1) We have a request from the IESG to modify the draft submission tool to allow authors to submit a draft in only xml2rfc form, generating the text for them. This is a first, experimental step towards dealing with the new format world, focusing on any issues that xml only submission might bring. 2) We have observations from the meeting that the path we're on with WG calendars will not meet the need, at least for making it easy for people to learn about interim meetings from other working groups. Specifically, a view of "all interim meetings" or "all interim meetings for these two areas" will not be easy to obtain. We should discuss alternatives. My initial suggestion is that we split keeping track of interim meetings from the other things a group might use a calendar resource for, and provide a view into upcoming interims from the datatracker directly (since it has to know about interim meetings anyhow). 3) There are concerns that it is not easy for a group to communicate what tooling it is using for a given draft. (Are they using only the list, are they using a trac tracker, are they using github). There may be a need to display additional information conveying that somewhere. I expect there will be more points that come up later this week that we should discuss - I'll send an update Friday. RjS From nobody Wed May 6 03:42:29 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5AC1A87CB for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:42:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MDfnVGiUNmOu for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638BE1A1BAF for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADDB9A401B; Wed, 6 May 2015 06:42:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hl1F6Znzi65X; Wed, 6 May 2015 06:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.67.45.39] (unknown [109.144.253.109]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AB79A402D; Wed, 6 May 2015 06:41:54 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <5549D15C.2080506@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 06:41:48 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1641948234.60183.1430899196658.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2tc415.webex.com> <5549D15C.2080506@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] WebEx meeting invitation: Tools Cmte X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 10:42:28 -0000 > 3) There are concerns that it is not easy for a group to communicate = what tooling it is using for a given draft. (Are they using only the = list, are they using a trac tracker, are they using github). There may = be a need to display additional information conveying that somewhere. Some authors include a paragraph that the I-D is being discussed on the = foobar mail list. Isn't it sufficient to include paragraphs on these = topics as well? Russ From nobody Wed May 6 03:44:43 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5C11A905E for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:44:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O1qlHB0mGSxP for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BA11A88B8 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9C69A403B for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 06:44:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LrKy+r8+rXsz for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 06:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.67.45.39] (unknown [109.144.253.109]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1595A9A401B for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 06:44:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 06:44:01 -0400 Message-Id: <6D339B68-A5E5-46BD-9025-9052CD82516B@vigilsec.com> To: IETF Tools Development Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 12 May 2015 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 10:44:41 -0000 Tools Call Agenda -- 12 May 2015 at 13:00 Eastern 1. Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan - Submission tool automatically generates text from XML -- Robert - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert - Agenda Tool enhancements -- Robert - Performance improvements -- Henrik - Review Tracking -- Robert - Automation for WG iCal creation and deletion -- Robert - Report on email handling in the datatracker -- Robert 2. Community & Other Projects - Present a directory view of active, archived, and unknown I-Ds -- Robert - Can we turning off the FTP service? -- Robert - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg - IETF Meeting App -- Alexa 3. RFC Services Projects - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik - DOI -- Alice and Heather - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert - Fonts for RFCs -- Heather - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org 5. Server Infrastructure - iCal servers -- AMS -- How can we support calendars for "all interim meetings"? -- How can we support calendars for "interim meetings in an area"? - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? -- All 6. IDIQ Contractors - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray 7. Parking Lot - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS - RFC Editor automatic stats and reporting RFP -- Heather - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert 8. AOB From nobody Wed May 6 03:52:00 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA551A1BB5 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:51:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CA3VeIPQc7Wa for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A90791A0149 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local ([109.144.209.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t46Aptht084725 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 05:51:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [109.144.209.35] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <5549F246.9020605@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 11:51:50 +0100 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <6D339B68-A5E5-46BD-9025-9052CD82516B@vigilsec.com> In-Reply-To: <6D339B68-A5E5-46BD-9025-9052CD82516B@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 12 May 2015 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 10:51:59 -0000 A question and one tweak below On 5/6/15 11:44 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > Tools Call Agenda -- 12 May 2015 at 13:00 Eastern > > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan > - Submission tool automatically generates text from XML -- Robert > - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert > - Agenda Tool enhancements -- Robert > - Performance improvements -- Henrik > - Review Tracking -- Robert > - Automation for WG iCal creation and deletion -- Robert I assume this is where we will talk about the calendar related stuff that came up during the retreat? > - Report on email handling in the datatracker -- Robert > > 2. Community & Other Projects > - Present a directory view of active, archived, and unknown I-Ds -- Robert > - Can we turning off the FTP service? -- Robert This should probably be renamed something like "Improving the infrastructure for publishing artifacts", as we've moved past the FTP question. > - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg > - IETF Meeting App -- Alexa > > 3. RFC Services Projects > - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik > - DOI -- Alice and Heather > - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather > - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert > - Fonts for RFCs -- Heather > - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather > > 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools > - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org > > 5. Server Infrastructure > - iCal servers -- AMS > -- How can we support calendars for "all interim meetings"? > -- How can we support calendars for "interim meetings in an area"? > - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert > - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert > - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? -- All > > 6. IDIQ Contractors > - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray > > 7. Parking Lot > - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS > - RFC Editor automatic stats and reporting RFP -- Heather > - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert > > 8. AOB > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Wed May 6 03:55:06 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E151A8829 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:55:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id egnQDqklbNvI for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A0E1A0149 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BB59A403D; Wed, 6 May 2015 06:54:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ll3RJwAmLxzO; Wed, 6 May 2015 06:54:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.67.45.39] (unknown [109.144.253.109]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA7A9A403B; Wed, 6 May 2015 06:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <5549F246.9020605@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 06:54:45 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <28D81AD6-C548-41BD-BCF9-14EF00872134@vigilsec.com> References: <6D339B68-A5E5-46BD-9025-9052CD82516B@vigilsec.com> <5549F246.9020605@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 12 May 2015 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 10:55:05 -0000 On May 6, 2015, at 6:51 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > A question and one tweak below >=20 > On 5/6/15 11:44 AM, Russ Housley wrote: >> Tools Call Agenda -- 12 May 2015 at 13:00 Eastern >>=20 >> 1. Datatracker Projects >> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan >> - Submission tool automatically generates text from XML -- Robert >> - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert >> - Agenda Tool enhancements -- Robert >> - Performance improvements -- Henrik >> - Review Tracking -- Robert >> - Automation for WG iCal creation and deletion -- Robert > I assume this is where we will talk about the calendar related stuff = that came up during the retreat? I was thinking that the interim and area calendars would be in section = 5, but the other topics would go here. >> - Report on email handling in the datatracker -- Robert >>=20 >> 2. Community & Other Projects >> - Present a directory view of active, archived, and unknown I-Ds = -- Robert >> - Can we turning off the FTP service? -- Robert > This should probably be renamed something like "Improving the = infrastructure for publishing artifacts", as we've moved past the FTP = question. Good point. >> - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg >> - IETF Meeting App -- Alexa >>=20 >> 3. RFC Services Projects >> - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik >> - DOI -- Alice and Heather >> - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather >> - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert >> - Fonts for RFCs -- Heather >> - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather >>=20 >> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org >>=20 >> 5. Server Infrastructure >> - iCal servers -- AMS >> -- How can we support calendars for "all interim meetings"? >> -- How can we support calendars for "interim meetings in an = area"? >> - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert >> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? -- All >>=20 >> 6. IDIQ Contractors >> - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray >>=20 >> 7. Parking Lot >> - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS >> - RFC Editor automatic stats and reporting RFP -- Heather >> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- = Robert >>=20 >> 8. AOB >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Wed May 6 03:59:24 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899A31A908B for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:59:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DACxDmsXsQlV for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF6731A905E for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 03:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local ([109.144.209.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t46AxIjp085428 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 6 May 2015 05:59:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [109.144.209.35] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <5549F401.4040307@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 11:59:13 +0100 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Housley References: <6D339B68-A5E5-46BD-9025-9052CD82516B@vigilsec.com> <5549F246.9020605@nostrum.com> <28D81AD6-C548-41BD-BCF9-14EF00872134@vigilsec.com> In-Reply-To: <28D81AD6-C548-41BD-BCF9-14EF00872134@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 12 May 2015 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 10:59:23 -0000 On 5/6/15 11:54 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > On May 6, 2015, at 6:51 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > >> A question and one tweak below >> >> On 5/6/15 11:44 AM, Russ Housley wrote: >>> Tools Call Agenda -- 12 May 2015 at 13:00 Eastern >>> >>> 1. Datatracker Projects >>> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >>> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan >>> - Submission tool automatically generates text from XML -- Robert >>> - Liaison Tool improvements -- Robert >>> - Agenda Tool enhancements -- Robert >>> - Performance improvements -- Henrik >>> - Review Tracking -- Robert >>> - Automation for WG iCal creation and deletion -- Robert >> I assume this is where we will talk about the calendar related stuff that came up during the retreat? > I was thinking that the interim and area calendars would be in section 5, but the other topics would go here. Ok - sorry - I read through the original message twice and still didn't see those. > > >>> - Report on email handling in the datatracker -- Robert >>> >>> 2. Community & Other Projects >>> - Present a directory view of active, archived, and unknown I-Ds -- Robert >>> - Can we turning off the FTP service? -- Robert >> This should probably be renamed something like "Improving the infrastructure for publishing artifacts", as we've moved past the FTP question. > Good point. > > >>> - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg >>> - IETF Meeting App -- Alexa >>> >>> 3. RFC Services Projects >>> - xml2rfc bug fixes -- Alice and Henrik >>> - DOI -- Alice and Heather >>> - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather >>> - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert >>> - Fonts for RFCs -- Heather >>> - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather >>> >>> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >>> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org >>> >>> 5. Server Infrastructure >>> - iCal servers -- AMS >>> -- How can we support calendars for "all interim meetings"? >>> -- How can we support calendars for "interim meetings in an area"? >>> - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert >>> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >>> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? -- All >>> >>> 6. IDIQ Contractors >>> - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray >>> >>> 7. Parking Lot >>> - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS >>> - RFC Editor automatic stats and reporting RFP -- Heather >>> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert >>> >>> 8. AOB >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Wed May 6 07:31:36 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518C41ACDA1 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ITj6AdXSZ9n5 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 07:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 796DA1ACD9E for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 07:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tannat.netnod.se ([77.72.226.96]:61198) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq0M9-0004DR-Q8; Wed, 06 May 2015 07:31:26 -0700 Message-ID: <554A25BA.4030400@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 16:31:22 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Housley , Robert Sparks References: <1641948234.60183.1430899196658.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2tc415.webex.com> <5549D15C.2080506@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XoSptqrhJtdf8kFIDbEJGPPPQ4G4TlQhe" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 77.72.226.96 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik-sent@levkowetz.com, tools-development@ietf.org, rjsparks@nostrum.com, housley@vigilsec.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] WebEx meeting invitation: Tools Cmte X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 14:31:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --XoSptqrhJtdf8kFIDbEJGPPPQ4G4TlQhe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015-05-06 12:41, Russ Housley wrote: >=20 >> 3) There are concerns that it is not easy for a group to communicate w= hat tooling it is using for a given draft. (Are they using only the list,= are they using a trac tracker, are they using github). There may be a ne= ed to display additional information conveying that somewhere. >=20 > Some authors include a paragraph that the I-D is being discussed on the= foobar mail list. Isn't it sufficient to include paragraphs on these to= pics as well? Starting with some background info, I have a comment on that below: The per-WG document overview pages on tools.ietf.org today show per-draft= issue status indications, see for instance https://tools.ietf.org/wg/dime/ Once we have moved the wg trackers to the main ietf server, it would make= sense to provide that kind of information on the equivalent datatracker p= age. Now, Benoit has recently (for the second time) asked if it's possible to provide links to non-trac issue trackers in the comment field (instead of= the ticket summary graphic) for each document, in order to point people i= n the right direction if a WG or a specific document doesn't use the wiki t= racker, but does use an external tracker. In order to be able to render such a link, it would be better to have the= information in a database table than to have it only in a paragraph in th= e document. Best regards, Henrik --XoSptqrhJtdf8kFIDbEJGPPPQ4G4TlQhe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVSiW6AAoJEE6bV0uPuxcamBMQANDiUFtWTN1RHLf8y0aCc1Kw 9gtg2xrSoRo5UMM3jgHsPkJReBGfuFgpeZfhWZYcpXXg5/uEzU3k5wsbI5Y2RRCW 5HrW5uwXLFEMp6U8L4TC0ivtRIpvSZFVSOw0i0ujkENekGtdMDyVMDNR4wom63fE a1PZLz1LA35vPAkT/aafzE5qt71lfoAlkniKZAQ26FCLupgTssszRXC/5/nWzcVk L+fldNsvSb4Xj2xLkWLahhGV7bUpWjmtGDt8uRDq1FQzT38mJoTCLD6YMnc4fzFS iSQiOQmWXVu5icvvGar1Kv1IIXXmGpGlRAADBGJ8uXtnepR4P6POYTkOYRyX55gj 3EF4MVybgA33tQZvJK9qljAjDvuQZ8uUE26R2yPXHouCUdic1avVwU1CjKYCAYme /FBPlRmwETZTBofVDXeHeJz5RfjKhXandkFEigD0lNDS9Jwr3KsGAimctkAKaBVB iHSoVZW8yMKdQIXK8ehInkPvjguCuliI6/bwu3N3knb9FmOX42Diy7XFpX9HGWdA PwA6flOj4XQf3SK7Mk3g8pPBamVLP2ecLLAe53ALzTnh6yO6hlMV1FxYxLjfmMqG 2uABJ8qjVEmVr0wAWmWwld3yhPZPq1elJidE1FeYbWbEmuPPyyuVgKDgQQCO/vrE CJbuirFfvvkfLPlWlgbW =aXyR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XoSptqrhJtdf8kFIDbEJGPPPQ4G4TlQhe-- From nobody Wed May 6 07:48:37 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9264F1ACDA1 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 07:48:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3T4UXje06z13 for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 07:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 412141A000F for ; Wed, 6 May 2015 07:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.158] ([217.91.35.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MFi1J-1Z4ZOy2tYj-00Ef92; Wed, 06 May 2015 16:44:13 +0200 Message-ID: <554A28BA.7080606@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 16:44:10 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz , Russ Housley , Robert Sparks References: <1641948234.60183.1430899196658.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2tc415.webex.com> <5549D15C.2080506@nostrum.com> <554A25BA.4030400@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <554A25BA.4030400@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:2xBz25be+FQFbzLfO3z4qj1gw8LsPc7qreEhHjmvHsSfXRQ6hk0 bXNk6KX+X+3vq43KJlVQ8lRKIwIfkVZ25J0HWKE2kShiwe3RckPaIMIZSmptBdHdq4t/b+o NfjyULarVoo3LSh8Z6HDIKVxKwfZsRMy1pp9pyTmRFXmNRx4bnxYTGWr6zadMAfo8TpDX1S niGGPDAI/sLMSOZopmrJQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] WebEx meeting invitation: Tools Cmte X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 14:48:36 -0000 On 2015-05-06 16:31, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > On 2015-05-06 12:41, Russ Housley wrote: >> >>> 3) There are concerns that it is not easy for a group to communicate what tooling it is using for a given draft. (Are they using only the list, are they using a trac tracker, are they using github). There may be a need to display additional information conveying that somewhere. >> >> Some authors include a paragraph that the I-D is being discussed on the foobar mail list. Isn't it sufficient to include paragraphs on these topics as well? > > Starting with some background info, I have a comment on that below: > > The per-WG document overview pages on tools.ietf.org today show per-draft > issue status indications, see for instance > > https://tools.ietf.org/wg/dime/ > > Once we have moved the wg trackers to the main ietf server, it would make > sense to provide that kind of information on the equivalent datatracker page. > > Now, Benoit has recently (for the second time) asked if it's possible to > provide links to non-trac issue trackers in the comment field (instead of > the ticket summary graphic) for each document, in order to point people in > the right direction if a WG or a specific document doesn't use the wiki tracker, > but does use an external tracker. > > In order to be able to render such a link, it would be better to have the > information in a database table than to have it only in a paragraph in the > document. > ... Is this something xml2rfcv3 should support directly (as metadata)? Best regards, Julian From nobody Fri May 8 05:00:55 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386831B29FA for ; Fri, 8 May 2015 05:00:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x_9pu6R84SGb for ; Fri, 8 May 2015 05:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D208A1B29DC for ; Fri, 8 May 2015 05:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E3D9A404F; Fri, 8 May 2015 08:00:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Sshz-VjUI0BA; Fri, 8 May 2015 08:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [5.5.33.166] (vpn.snozzages.com [204.42.252.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6DE9A4014; Fri, 8 May 2015 08:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <554A25BA.4030400@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 07:59:59 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <038EFA11-8EA2-47FA-A1B3-70B8DADD6E64@vigilsec.com> References: <1641948234.60183.1430899196658.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2tc415.webex.com> <5549D15C.2080506@nostrum.com> <554A25BA.4030400@levkowetz.com> To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] WebEx meeting invitation: Tools Cmte X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 12:00:54 -0000 Henrik: >>> 3) There are concerns that it is not easy for a group to communicate = what tooling it is using for a given draft. (Are they using only the = list, are they using a trac tracker, are they using github). There may = be a need to display additional information conveying that somewhere. >>=20 >> Some authors include a paragraph that the I-D is being discussed on = the foobar mail list. Isn't it sufficient to include paragraphs on = these topics as well? >=20 > Starting with some background info, I have a comment on that below: >=20 > The per-WG document overview pages on tools.ietf.org today show = per-draft > issue status indications, see for instance >=20 > https://tools.ietf.org/wg/dime/ >=20 > Once we have moved the wg trackers to the main ietf server, it would = make > sense to provide that kind of information on the equivalent = datatracker page. >=20 > Now, Benoit has recently (for the second time) asked if it's possible = to > provide links to non-trac issue trackers in the comment field (instead = of > the ticket summary graphic) for each document, in order to point = people in > the right direction if a WG or a specific document doesn't use the = wiki tracker, > but does use an external tracker. >=20 > In order to be able to render such a link, it would be better to have = the > information in a database table than to have it only in a paragraph in = the > document. Thanks. This context was really useful to me. Who will set this in the = database? WG chair? Doc author? Russ From nobody Tue May 12 13:10:30 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E96E1ACEDD for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 13:10:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EKKfE8Fun3PL for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 13:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1B041ACE87 for ; Tue, 12 May 2015 13:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h205n24-s-oev-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com ([78.68.120.205]:65156 helo=vigonier.tools.ietf.org) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1YsGVW-0006gf-EH; Tue, 12 May 2015 13:10:27 -0700 Message-ID: <55525E16.4010001@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 22:09:58 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Housley References: <1641948234.60183.1430899196658.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2tc415.webex.com> <5549D15C.2080506@nostrum.com> <554A25BA.4030400@levkowetz.com> <038EFA11-8EA2-47FA-A1B3-70B8DADD6E64@vigilsec.com> In-Reply-To: <038EFA11-8EA2-47FA-A1B3-70B8DADD6E64@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kp6E7dt9NOVutK0a4WbTLFms8wJfTFd6w" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 78.68.120.205 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: henrik-sent@levkowetz.com, tools-development@ietf.org, housley@vigilsec.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] WebEx meeting invitation: Tools Cmte X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 20:10:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --kp6E7dt9NOVutK0a4WbTLFms8wJfTFd6w Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015-05-08 13:59, Russ Housley wrote: > Henrik: >=20 >>>> 3) There are concerns that it is not easy for a group to communicate= what tooling it is using for a given draft. (Are they using only the lis= t, are they using a trac tracker, are they using github). There may be a = need to display additional information conveying that somewhere. >>>=20 >>> Some authors include a paragraph that the I-D is being discussed on t= he foobar mail list. Isn't it sufficient to include paragraphs on these = topics as well? >>=20 >> Starting with some background info, I have a comment on that below: >>=20 >> The per-WG document overview pages on tools.ietf.org today show per-dr= aft >> issue status indications, see for instance >>=20 >> https://tools.ietf.org/wg/dime/ >>=20 >> Once we have moved the wg trackers to the main ietf server, it would m= ake >> sense to provide that kind of information on the equivalent datatracke= r page. >>=20 >> Now, Benoit has recently (for the second time) asked if it's possible = to >> provide links to non-trac issue trackers in the comment field (instead= of >> the ticket summary graphic) for each document, in order to point peopl= e in >> the right direction if a WG or a specific document doesn't use the wik= i tracker, >> but does use an external tracker. >>=20 >> In order to be able to render such a link, it would be better to have = the >> information in a database table than to have it only in a paragraph in= the >> document. >=20 > Thanks. This context was really useful to me. Who will set this in > the database? WG chair? Doc author? I seem to have missed replying timely to this. I would expect it to be s= ettable by both Doc Authors and WG Chairs. Best regards, Henrik =20 --kp6E7dt9NOVutK0a4WbTLFms8wJfTFd6w Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVUl4dAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcabXMP+weTITZpu6nb1RchWWQ9XqiC 7XSLRR8iH5wufiCy22dLNbycX1x2cQoknrDmXOHoYRrvMdEWXMVlDIlSz6CnEjCl N2EGQEtSQ/9v0k4gv+I4+qw+lZZLHtkIAR6dUFs/Jcdf/uLv7wXFE8nSW6s/ohbH /4OYRgT1oAFGOUkXAGf5PbyoxYM6eREvXhQUvr/nwaDkP/QV4hZpaGWH6ZybisGE /5jmKFSt01Dw0Uo+X+N+c9ZrYvbMT2oPJOOnWp2ESX690xGEOdBhdDxrmVlY8gf9 oUiboq2vKhCGIJvIP+1BxSLpVdSuvXeZdEn72pz9ngCCLgf70Q6lsZjTOH6LOFbH wzP7cKiSxjpUZ8Ky1iHyN1vEUDxOFpF+MmjHBZ6YcAiQBGqLu2OQTmd9feN+mMQu XTYxqEFZR4sItVrIaRzjvn3EKQCcO19g9u4HUHe9PIXIU6YVwqz0IsUL39kZ+Pji YFvBvnwRKtJzoXdLvfUsGwwGAxWHen3zlBiY2aobjM8pdzIoUJZ6y5nfFh3WXSXv 3+NjwscD1OmX8JWk00OCScxI9rS7bft+RofOpBRRTdQRo7Ms2P0Dv7qnDN6CuNsn 2Wk0gd5Oh/CjFtwY9hszMRhjC0Wl1vLzdSYsh2I7aUe2DRcWQLCOniDOdArt6B/k ZjR41EITwRApqznBasrW =+J5r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kp6E7dt9NOVutK0a4WbTLFms8wJfTFd6w-- From nobody Wed May 13 11:08:45 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4D41ACCE8 for ; Wed, 13 May 2015 11:08:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pKzJO9sZlhZI for ; Wed, 13 May 2015 11:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CCA1A9117 for ; Wed, 13 May 2015 11:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C149A4046 for ; Wed, 13 May 2015 14:07:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rI-dRxRp30yM for ; Wed, 13 May 2015 14:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-96-255-145-93.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.145.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A779A4048 for ; Wed, 13 May 2015 14:07:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 14:06:52 -0400 References: To: IETF Tools Development Message-Id: <4686E1E4-D872-4F94-A907-BC643836717E@vigilsec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Proceedings X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 18:08:44 -0000 On the call yesterday, we were unsure about the level of automation for = proceedings. The datatracker release notes from today say: > * Merged in [9618] from rcross@amsl.com: > Make proceedings generation more robust. =20 Seems like there are some tools that are being worked at AMS. Russ From nobody Fri May 29 15:07:25 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2592F1B2DDA for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:05:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -98.588 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IfnOJoeBDm3W for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762D81B2DBC for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6997B1E41B7 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yk0-f180.google.com (mail-yk0-f180.google.com [209.85.160.180]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42EA91E4204 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yked142 with SMTP id d142so26290700yke.3 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:05:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.2.230 with SMTP id 66mr10537909yhf.129.1432937113590; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:05:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.91.139 with HTTP; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:04:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 15:04:53 -0700 Message-ID: To: Glen Barney Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0115eb70a4237e05173fabc9 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 29 May 2015 15:07:23 -0700 Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Circuit routing issues, IETF Sunnyvale X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: glen@amsl.com List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 22:05:17 -0000 --089e0115eb70a4237e05173fabc9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 All - Five minutes ago we started to observe circuit routing issues with our connection to Level3 in Sunnyvale. While fully responsive from many locations, it appears that traffic from other locations is not routing in to our data center facility correctly. Our servers are all up, and functioning correctly. However, there is still an intermittent packet loss situation happening from some parts of the world. We are in contact with Level 3 now and will monitor the situation to ensure that it gets resolved quickly. Feel free to let me know if there are any questions. Glen Glen Barney IT Director AMS (IETF Secretariat) --089e0115eb70a4237e05173fabc9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All -

Five= minutes ago we started to observe circuit routing issues with our connecti= on to Level3 in Sunnyvale.=C2=A0 While fully responsive from many locations= , it appears that traffic from other locations is not routing in to our dat= a center facility correctly.

Our servers are all up, and funct= ioning correctly.=C2=A0 However, there is still an intermittent packet loss= situation happening from some parts of the world.=C2=A0 We are in contact = with Level 3 now and will monitor the situation to ensure that it gets reso= lved quickly.

Feel free to let me know if there are any questi= ons.

Glen
Glen Barney
IT Director
A= MS (IETF Secretariat)

--089e0115eb70a4237e05173fabc9-- From nobody Fri May 29 17:09:41 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA281AC3D8 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 17:07:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.288 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.288 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id csIOjTrNVVaN for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 17:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEBD1AC3D7 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 17:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576C11E41B7 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 17:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-f42.google.com (mail-qg0-f42.google.com [209.85.192.42]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 250301E4204 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 17:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qgfa63 with SMTP id a63so35403517qgf.0 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 17:07:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.92.173 with SMTP id b42mr12853966qge.54.1432944437557; Fri, 29 May 2015 17:07:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.99.44 with HTTP; Fri, 29 May 2015 17:06:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:06:57 -0700 Message-ID: To: Glen Barney Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113971902f01530517416005 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:09:40 -0700 Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Update: Circuit routing issues, IETF Sunnyvale X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: glen@amsl.com List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 00:07:21 -0000 --001a113971902f01530517416005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 All - Two hours ago I reported that we were observing intermittent packet loss to the IETF main servers in Sunnyvale from several different geographic areas. The problem appeared to have been in the handoff router from Level 3 to us, which is Level 3's responsibility. A ticket was opened with Level 3 at that time. As of 30 minutes ago, all packet loss issues appear to have been resolved. All of my remote test locations (Orlando, Portland, San Diego, Fremont, Campbell) now show full connectivity to Sunnyvale with no packet loss, and have for the past 30 minutes or so. There is no further indication that any loss is occurring on any services with the IETF. I'm still seeing some strangeness on traceroutes from some locations, although there is no packet loss from those same locations, even in flood mode, even with larger packet sizes. And I still haven't heard anything from Level 3 yet, which makes me grumpy. So I will be watching this weekend and following up with them on these things; however, at least from a useability standpoint, it appears that all IETF services are completely up and running and "back to normal" at this time. If anything degrades again, or if the situation changes, I will send an update again. Thanks for your patience with this strange interruption. Best, Glen Glen Barney IT Director AMS (IETF Secretariat) --001a113971902f01530517416005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Two hours ago I reported that= we were observing intermittent packet loss to the IETF main servers in Sun= nyvale from several different geographic areas.=C2=A0 The problem appeared = to have been in the handoff router from Level 3 to us, which is Level 3'= ;s responsibility.=C2=A0 A ticket was opened with Level 3 at that time.

As of 30 minutes ago, all packet loss issues appear t= o have been resolved.=C2=A0 All of my remote test locations (Orlando, Portl= and, San Diego, Fremont, Campbell) now show full connectivity to Sunnyvale = with no packet loss, and have for the past 30 minutes or so.=C2=A0 There is= no further indication that any loss is occurring on any services with the = IETF.

I'm still seeing some strangeness on traceroute= s from some locations, although there is no packet loss from those same loc= ations, even in flood mode, even with larger packet sizes.=C2=A0 And I stil= l haven't heard anything from Level 3 yet, which makes me grumpy.
So I will be watching this weekend and following up with them = on these things; however, at least from a useability standpoint, it appears= that all IETF services are completely up and running and "back to nor= mal" at this time. If anything degrades again, or if the situation cha= nges, I will send an update again.

Thanks for your patien= ce with this strange interruption.

Best,
Gl= en
Glen Barney
IT Director
AMS (I= ETF Secretariat)


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