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-- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:03:03 -0000 Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern 1. Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert - Review Tracking -- Robert - Author Statistics -- Russ 2. Community & Other Projects - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg 3. RFC Services Projects - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org 5. Server Infrastructure - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert 6. IDIQ Contractors - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray 7. Parking Lot - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub 8. AOB From nobody Thu Nov 12 16:54:51 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC8D1B3AAF for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:54:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.667 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.667 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wyQ880GT9TyQ for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.39.168]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C53EB1B39F0 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27172 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2015 00:54:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy6.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2015 00:54:47 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw3 with id gvue1r0062SSUrH01vuh4i; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 00:54:45 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Caqbutbl c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=-_JJqrS2NaAA:10 a=qtqOOiqGOCEA:10 a=hEh3JUyyAAAA:8 a=jSlt_MizAAAA:8 a=tGX7uwomAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=ir0z7U_d0t0qN1V_RZEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:To:From; bh=kxohCj3rvwnfMvSHPdmo/itAK8bQsNvkTw4uQxbx95U=; b=ZTnlFmQtBLxlZ6EFkv3WM9MvvjpfNoBxH9N5r9J2bS4W1CaiIlTxeGNyO5GeOtYjuSQe5yLzZYqpDM6v7SJcWfOmKKfIWmYRMyGXNvgxXtJ7buhirUDnJxsuYndcfIbG; Received: from [71.191.205.226] (port=40945 helo=[11.4.0.238]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Zx2dU-0006qa-3x; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:54:40 -0700 From: Lou Berger To: Russ Housley , IETF Tools Development Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:54:29 -0500 Message-ID: <150fe562188.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> References: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 AquaMail/1.5.9.14 (build: 22000040) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 71.191.205.226 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 00:54:50 -0000 Russ, I think it would be good to touch on mail archive access. Including : A. Plan for phasing out old system B. features gating A. C. Other feedback from ietf 94 To add to the discussion / thinking, I hacked a very old web imap interface to view the archives. Just a PoC of what's possible without changing infrastructure. Login using imap credentials, e.g., anonymous and user@mail.com - I like the threaded view myself: http://blabn.net/archive-teas Or http://blabn.net/archive-all (hit reload if/after getting the error message; select the group you are interested in). Thanks Lou On November 12, 2015 5:03:30 PM Russ Housley wrote: > Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern > > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan > - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert > - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert > - Review Tracking -- Robert > - Author Statistics -- Russ > > 2. Community & Other Projects > - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert > - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg > > 3. RFC Services Projects > - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather > - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather > - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather > - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert > > 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools > - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org > > 5. Server Infrastructure > - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik > - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert > > 6. IDIQ Contractors > - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray > > 7. Parking Lot > - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS > - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert > - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? > - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? > - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik > - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert > - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool > - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub > > 8. AOB > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From nobody Fri Nov 13 06:51:29 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4C91A9132 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:51:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iTvEgN-47sb9 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:51:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5D11A911B for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:51:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F03F2417B; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:51:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5h-+EJ0PMM00; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:49:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.104] (pool-108-51-128-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.51.128.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DF9F2417D; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:50:54 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <150fe562188.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:50:43 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <149C5306-9343-4C9F-A706-77DB4FDAEB36@vigilsec.com> References: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> <150fe562188.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> To: Lou Berger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 14:51:28 -0000 I've added it to the agenda. Russ On Nov 12, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > Russ, >=20 > I think it would be good to touch on mail archive access. Including : > A. Plan for phasing out old system > B. features gating A. > C. Other feedback from ietf 94 >=20 > To add to the discussion / thinking, I hacked a very old web imap = interface to view the archives. Just a PoC of what's possible without = changing infrastructure. Login using imap credentials, e.g., anonymous = and user@mail.com - I like the threaded view myself: > http://blabn.net/archive-teas > Or http://blabn.net/archive-all > (hit reload if/after getting the error message; select the group = you are interested in). >=20 > Thanks > Lou >=20 >=20 >=20 > On November 12, 2015 5:03:30 PM Russ Housley = wrote: >=20 >> Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern >>=20 >> 1. Datatracker Projects >> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan >> - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert >> - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert >> - Review Tracking -- Robert >> - Author Statistics -- Russ >>=20 >> 2. Community & Other Projects >> - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- = Robert >> - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg >>=20 >> 3. RFC Services Projects >> - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather >> - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather >> - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather >> - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert >>=20 >> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org >>=20 >> 5. Server Infrastructure >> - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik >> - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert >>=20 >> 6. IDIQ Contractors >> - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray >>=20 >> 7. Parking Lot >> - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS >> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert >> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? >> - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? >> - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik >> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >> - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool >> - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub >>=20 >> 8. AOB >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>=20 >=20 >=20 From nobody Fri Nov 13 06:54:11 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1741A9148 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:54:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.667 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.667 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R_xz_Xqr1X72 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:54:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.25.95]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CF09A1A9132 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17413 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2015 14:54:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2015 14:54:06 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by CMOut01 with id h2tz1r0052SSUrH012u2Z7; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:54:05 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=VOBOwb/X c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=-_JJqrS2NaAA:10 a=qtqOOiqGOCEA:10 a=tGX7uwomAAAA:8 a=hEh3JUyyAAAA:8 a=jSlt_MizAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=EA_e9VWGTvs35HcjJqUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:CC:To:From; bh=JgJOA1pbhjnxJs/41enJuldEBWqNhUDOkdh8VkRe+a0=; b=NvCdFJd0e/S1+AcxS+jXFGnQ9gdUdL7+9dKdvVYZJpO16G/qMkwigrmxZc7xJDqOw1HcG+qMdcyE0pxc1LkV111quMvX9bb4zn+7UlXHsG5pPVJzd+9cUtaXEsIwnOii; Received: from [71.191.205.226] (port=42345 helo=[11.4.0.238]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZxFjj-0008OU-Sv; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:54:00 -0700 From: Lou Berger To: Russ Housley Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:53:56 -0500 Message-ID: <1510156aba0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <149C5306-9343-4C9F-A706-77DB4FDAEB36@vigilsec.com> References: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> <150fe562188.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <149C5306-9343-4C9F-A706-77DB4FDAEB36@vigilsec.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 AquaMail/1.5.9.14 (build: 22000040) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 71.191.205.226 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 14:54:10 -0000 Thanks. Lou On November 13, 2015 9:51:54 AM Russ Housley wrote: > I've added it to the agenda. > > Russ > > > On Nov 12, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > >> Russ, >> >> I think it would be good to touch on mail archive access. Including : >> A. Plan for phasing out old system >> B. features gating A. >> C. Other feedback from ietf 94 >> >> To add to the discussion / thinking, I hacked a very old web imap interface >> to view the archives. Just a PoC of what's possible without changing >> infrastructure. Login using imap credentials, e.g., anonymous and >> user@mail.com - I like the threaded view myself: >> http://blabn.net/archive-teas >> Or http://blabn.net/archive-all >> (hit reload if/after getting the error message; select the group you are >> interested in). >> >> Thanks >> Lou >> >> >> >> On November 12, 2015 5:03:30 PM Russ Housley wrote: >> >>> Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern >>> >>> 1. Datatracker Projects >>> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >>> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan >>> - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert >>> - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert >>> - Review Tracking -- Robert >>> - Author Statistics -- Russ >>> >>> 2. Community & Other Projects >>> - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert >>> - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg >>> >>> 3. RFC Services Projects >>> - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather >>> - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather >>> - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather >>> - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert >>> >>> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >>> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org >>> >>> 5. Server Infrastructure >>> - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik >>> - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert >>> >>> 6. IDIQ Contractors >>> - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray >>> >>> 7. Parking Lot >>> - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS >>> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert >>> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? >>> - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? >>> - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik >>> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >>> - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool >>> - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub >>> >>> 8. AOB >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>> >> >> > > From nobody Mon Nov 16 08:04:33 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A961A1A15 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:04:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.214 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.214 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vtfiaaclK5dx for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929711A1A02 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6211E5A2B; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:03:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DEfHbtWrcSHp; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:03:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.254.0.9] (unknown [63.141.198.97]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C59AC1E5A1D; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:03:57 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Alexa Morris In-Reply-To: <1510156aba0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:04:25 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sendlaterdate: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:04:25 -0800 Message-Id: <1ED44AEF-45A2-425E-ACBB-B4E58DCBB491@amsl.com> References: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> <150fe562188.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <149C5306-9343-4C9F-A706-77DB4FDAEB36@vigilsec.com> <1510156aba0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> To: Russ Housley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:04:31 -0000 There=92s been some recent talk on the tools list about adding CND = support for tools.ietf.org (Cloudflare) =97 is this worth adding to = tomorrow=92s agenda? Alexa On Nov 13, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Thanks. > Lou >=20 >=20 > On November 13, 2015 9:51:54 AM Russ Housley = wrote: >=20 >> I've added it to the agenda. >>=20 >> Russ >>=20 >>=20 >> On Nov 12, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>=20 >>> Russ, >>>=20 >>> I think it would be good to touch on mail archive access. Including = : >>> A. Plan for phasing out old system >>> B. features gating A. >>> C. Other feedback from ietf 94 >>>=20 >>> To add to the discussion / thinking, I hacked a very old web imap = interface to view the archives. Just a PoC of what's possible without = changing infrastructure. Login using imap credentials, e.g., anonymous = and user@mail.com - I like the threaded view myself: >>> http://blabn.net/archive-teas >>> Or http://blabn.net/archive-all >>> (hit reload if/after getting the error message; select the group = you are interested in). >>>=20 >>> Thanks >>> Lou >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On November 12, 2015 5:03:30 PM Russ Housley = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern >>>>=20 >>>> 1. Datatracker Projects >>>> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >>>> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan >>>> - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert >>>> - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert >>>> - Review Tracking -- Robert >>>> - Author Statistics -- Russ >>>>=20 >>>> 2. Community & Other Projects >>>> - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- = Robert >>>> - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg >>>>=20 >>>> 3. RFC Services Projects >>>> - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather >>>> - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather >>>> - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather >>>> - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert >>>>=20 >>>> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >>>> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org >>>>=20 >>>> 5. Server Infrastructure >>>> - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik >>>> - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert >>>>=20 >>>> 6. IDIQ Contractors >>>> - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray >>>>=20 >>>> 7. Parking Lot >>>> - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS >>>> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- = Robert >>>> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? >>>> - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? >>>> - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik >>>> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >>>> - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool >>>> - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub >>>>=20 >>>> 8. AOB >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com From nobody Mon Nov 16 08:41:52 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71F31A6F53 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:41:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.241 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.241 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, KHOP_DYNAMIC=1.004, MISSING_HEADERS=1.021, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D2T9JOWF88Dh for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.149.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 241541A6F49 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0053301.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com (8.15.0.59/8.15.0.59) with SMTP id tAGGdNuu040893 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:41:30 -0500 Received: from alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (sbcsmtp6.sbc.com [144.160.229.23]) by mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 1y5ywe5ev9-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:41:30 -0500 Received: from enaf.aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tAGGfTTx025340 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:41:29 -0500 Received: from alpi132.aldc.att.com (alpi132.aldc.att.com [130.8.217.2]) by alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tAGGfLji025162 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:41:23 -0500 Received: from alpi153.aldc.att.com (alpi153.aldc.att.com [130.8.42.31]) by alpi132.aldc.att.com (RSA Interceptor) for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:41:14 GMT Received: from aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi153.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tAGGfEfa012448 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:41:14 -0500 Received: from dns.maillennium.att.com (maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by alpi153.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tAGGf7Um011988 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:41:07 -0500 Received: from txcdtl02md3295.itservices.sbc.com ([135.110.241.136]) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with ESMTP id <20151116164107gw100dvbjje>; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:41:07 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [135.110.241.136] References: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> <150fe562188.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <149C5306-9343-4C9F-A706-77DB4FDAEB36@vigilsec.com> <1510156aba0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <1ED44AEF-45A2-425E-ACBB-B4E58DCBB491@amsl.com> Cc: IETF Tools Development From: Tony Hansen Message-ID: <564A0721.5090408@att.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:41:05 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1ED44AEF-45A2-425E-ACBB-B4E58DCBB491@amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2015-11-16_12:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_policy_notspam policy=outbound_policy score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1507310000 definitions=main-1511160276 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:41:32 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:41:32 -0000 CND? or CDN? Both (Computer Network Defense and Content Distribution Network) seem interesting topics in their own rights. Tony On 11/16/15 11:04 AM, Alexa Morris wrote: > There’s been some recent talk on the tools list about adding CND support for tools.ietf.org (Cloudflare) — is this worth adding to tomorrow’s agenda? > > Alexa > > On Nov 13, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > >> Thanks. >> Lou >> >> >> On November 13, 2015 9:51:54 AM Russ Housley wrote: >> >>> I've added it to the agenda. >>> >>> Russ >>> >>> >>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>> >>>> Russ, >>>> >>>> I think it would be good to touch on mail archive access. Including : >>>> A. Plan for phasing out old system >>>> B. features gating A. >>>> C. Other feedback from ietf 94 >>>> >>>> To add to the discussion / thinking, I hacked a very old web imap interface to view the archives. Just a PoC of what's possible without changing infrastructure. Login using imap credentials, e.g., anonymous and user@mail.com - I like the threaded view myself: >>>> http://blabn.net/archive-teas >>>> Or http://blabn.net/archive-all >>>> (hit reload if/after getting the error message; select the group you are interested in). >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Lou >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On November 12, 2015 5:03:30 PM Russ Housley wrote: >>>> >>>>> Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern >>>>> >>>>> 1. Datatracker Projects >>>>> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >>>>> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan >>>>> - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert >>>>> - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert >>>>> - Review Tracking -- Robert >>>>> - Author Statistics -- Russ >>>>> >>>>> 2. Community & Other Projects >>>>> - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert >>>>> - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg >>>>> >>>>> 3. RFC Services Projects >>>>> - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather >>>>> - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather >>>>> - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather >>>>> - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert >>>>> >>>>> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >>>>> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org >>>>> >>>>> 5. Server Infrastructure >>>>> - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik >>>>> - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert >>>>> >>>>> 6. IDIQ Contractors >>>>> - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray >>>>> >>>>> 7. Parking Lot >>>>> - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS >>>>> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert >>>>> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? >>>>> - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? >>>>> - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik >>>>> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >>>>> - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool >>>>> - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub >>>>> >>>>> 8. AOB >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> > ---------- > Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF > 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 > Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 > Email: amorris@amsl.com > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > www.amsl.com > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Mon Nov 16 08:43:38 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961091A6F77 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:43:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.486 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.486 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fV9mF4SqS_LG for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:43:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4F51A6F6E for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:43:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8A61E5A2B; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:43:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5ElOaFor7uih; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:43:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.254.0.9] (unknown [63.141.198.97]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7CD2E1E5A26; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:43:02 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Alexa Morris In-Reply-To: <564A0721.5090408@att.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:43:29 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sendlaterdate: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:43:29 -0800 Message-Id: <43CF9839-1FEF-4B41-9FC9-A1CDBC53EAFB@amsl.com> References: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> <150fe562188.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <149C5306-9343-4C9F-A706-77DB4FDAEB36@vigilsec.com> <1510156aba0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <1ED44AEF-45A2-425E-ACBB-B4E58DCBB491@amsl.com> <564A0721.5090408@att.com> To: Tony Hansen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:43:36 -0000 Oops, typo =97 intended to write CDN. On Nov 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Tony Hansen wrote: > CND? or CDN? Both (Computer Network Defense and Content Distribution > Network) seem interesting topics in their own rights. >=20 > Tony >=20 > On 11/16/15 11:04 AM, Alexa Morris wrote: >> There=92s been some recent talk on the tools list about adding CND = support for tools.ietf.org (Cloudflare) =97 is this worth adding to = tomorrow=92s agenda? >>=20 >> Alexa >>=20 >> On Nov 13, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >>=20 >>> Thanks. >>> Lou >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On November 13, 2015 9:51:54 AM Russ Housley = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> I've added it to the agenda. >>>>=20 >>>> Russ >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Russ, >>>>>=20 >>>>> I think it would be good to touch on mail archive access. = Including : >>>>> A. Plan for phasing out old system >>>>> B. features gating A. >>>>> C. Other feedback from ietf 94 >>>>>=20 >>>>> To add to the discussion / thinking, I hacked a very old web imap = interface to view the archives. Just a PoC of what's possible without = changing infrastructure. Login using imap credentials, e.g., anonymous = and user@mail.com - I like the threaded view myself: >>>>> http://blabn.net/archive-teas >>>>> Or http://blabn.net/archive-all >>>>> (hit reload if/after getting the error message; select the group = you are interested in). >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Lou >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On November 12, 2015 5:03:30 PM Russ Housley = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 1. Datatracker Projects >>>>>> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >>>>>> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan >>>>>> - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert >>>>>> - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert >>>>>> - Review Tracking -- Robert >>>>>> - Author Statistics -- Russ >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 2. Community & Other Projects >>>>>> - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- = Robert >>>>>> - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 3. RFC Services Projects >>>>>> - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather >>>>>> - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather >>>>>> - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather >>>>>> - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >>>>>> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 5. Server Infrastructure >>>>>> - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik >>>>>> - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 6. IDIQ Contractors >>>>>> - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 7. Parking Lot >>>>>> - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS >>>>>> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- = Robert >>>>>> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? >>>>>> - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? >>>>>> - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik >>>>>> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >>>>>> - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool >>>>>> - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 8. AOB >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>>=20 >> ---------- >> Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF >> 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 >> Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 >> Email: amorris@amsl.com >>=20 >> Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) >> Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning >> www.amsl.com >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com From nobody Mon Nov 16 10:08:42 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D2D1B30B4 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:08:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mwp-yx4Cvida for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:08:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466B31B30B1 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:08:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E37F24183 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:08:28 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Oa4hrpko0xgE for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:06:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.104] (pool-108-51-128-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.51.128.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F14F2418B for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:08:08 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <564A1691.5030103@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:07:57 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <65D7A712-F13A-4777-936D-084989365BA5@vigilsec.com> References: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> <150fe562188.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <149C5306-9343-4C9F-A706-77DB4FDAEB36@vigilsec.com> <1510156aba0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <1ED44AEF-45A2-425E-ACBB-B4E58DCBB491@amsl.com> <84469798-281A-4E6C-8644-D83374266277@vigilsec.com> <564A1691.5030103@levkowetz.com> To: IETF Tools Development X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Updated Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:08:40 -0000 Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern 1. Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan - Make Django a dependency instead of using our own copy -- Henrik - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert - Review Tracking -- Robert - Author Statistics -- Russ 2. Community & Other Projects - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg 3. RFC Services Projects - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org 5. Server Infrastructure - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik - CDN support for tools.ietf.org -- Alexa - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert - Discontinue MonArch email archives -- Robert 6. IDIQ Contractors - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray 7. Parking Lot - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub 8. AOB From nobody Mon Nov 16 10:08:53 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DA21ACD2E for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:08:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oH5PV-zhBFzu for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2on0072.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.72]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAE8A1B30B8 for ; 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Suggestions for that work? Ray > On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > > Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern > > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan > - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert > - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert > - Review Tracking -- Robert > - Author Statistics -- Russ > > 2. Community & Other Projects > - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert > - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg > > 3. RFC Services Projects > - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather > - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather > - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather > - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert > > 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools > - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org > > 5. Server Infrastructure > - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik > - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert > > 6. IDIQ Contractors > - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray > > 7. Parking Lot > - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS > - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert > - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? > - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? > - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik > - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert > - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool > - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub > > 8. AOB > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Mon Nov 16 10:12:45 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B431B30C6 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:12:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.164 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.164 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KbjLSndR4oY2 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:12:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0421B30BD for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:12:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D2F1E5A2E for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com (mail-lb0-f178.google.com [209.85.217.178]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B1F41E5A2F for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:12:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by lbbkw15 with SMTP id kw15so93616208lbb.0 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:12:35 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.99.4 with SMTP id em4mr16334693lbb.87.1447697555209; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:12:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.162.65 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:12:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <43CF9839-1FEF-4B41-9FC9-A1CDBC53EAFB@amsl.com> References: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> <150fe562188.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <149C5306-9343-4C9F-A706-77DB4FDAEB36@vigilsec.com> <1510156aba0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <1ED44AEF-45A2-425E-ACBB-B4E58DCBB491@amsl.com> <564A0721.5090408@att.com> <43CF9839-1FEF-4B41-9FC9-A1CDBC53EAFB@amsl.com> From: Glen Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:12:15 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Alexa Morris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: glen@amsl.com List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:12:43 -0000 Alexa - This might have happened on a "tools list" that I am not on... but, no, I am not in favor of adding this to the agenda at this time. IMO, there are far too many questions that need to be answered first. For example... * The configuration and operation of Cloudflare's control panels are non-intuitive and non-trivial. Moreover, configuring rules requires a detailed knowledge of the various services, directories, and processes running on the target server. This mean, in essence, that Henrik would have to take responsibility for setting up and configuring Cloudflare appropriately for his servers. * The "speedup" aspect of Cloudflare here is, I would suspect, not as useful, since, I would guess, much if not all of the content on the Tools servers is dynamic (and would not benefit much if at all from caching rules.) * The "protection" aspect of Cloudflare is... cumbersome... at best. Behind Cloudflare, our ability to use on-our-own-server tools to detect and mitigate attacks becomes limited. We have to search our logs and then log in to Cloudflare (or send via Cloudflare tools) our firewall requests to their server. This adds difficulty and complexity to the defense process. Henrik would be faced with dealing with all of that himself as well. * It is unknown at this time how Cloudflare would handle one subdomain of one already-protected top domain. I suspect that the only way they could handle this would be to simply treat "tools" as a part of "ietf.org". This means that Henrik would have to log in to the Secretariat Cloudflare account to make changes and deal with issues on his servers. While Henrik is already (obviously) a trusted root user of AMS servers, this does not scale. We cannot have a situation where other volunteers or unknown individuals have access to this critical portal. What about a future in which the Tools servers are outsourced to another service or vendor? (I know Henrik plans to live forever, but *work* forever?) So I have security concerns with a future of that type. * Moreover, my understanding is that, eventually, most of the tools are to be moved to the Secretariat server? These are issues which are far too complex and specific to be dealt with on a tools call. Debate and speculation alone would easily consume the entire hour. If CDN services are wanted by Henrik, the first discussion should be between Russ, Henrik and myself, to work out the tactical possibilities. And once we do that, it would basically be done anyway. In the interest of time and speed, and to give Henrik time to consider what he actually wants and how he would like it to work, I recommend against adding this to the agenda for the Tools Call at this time. Glen On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Alexa Morris wrote: > Oops, typo =E2=80=94 intended to write CDN. > > On Nov 16, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Tony Hansen wrote: > >> CND? or CDN? Both (Computer Network Defense and Content Distribution >> Network) seem interesting topics in their own rights. >> >> Tony >> >> On 11/16/15 11:04 AM, Alexa Morris wrote: >>> There=E2=80=99s been some recent talk on the tools list about adding CN= D support for tools.ietf.org (Cloudflare) =E2=80=94 is this worth adding to= tomorrow=E2=80=99s agenda? >>> >>> Alexa >>> >>> On Nov 13, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> Lou >>>> >>>> >>>> On November 13, 2015 9:51:54 AM Russ Housley wr= ote: >>>> >>>>> I've added it to the agenda. >>>>> >>>>> Russ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Russ, >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it would be good to touch on mail archive access. Including = : >>>>>> A. Plan for phasing out old system >>>>>> B. features gating A. >>>>>> C. Other feedback from ietf 94 >>>>>> >>>>>> To add to the discussion / thinking, I hacked a very old web imap in= terface to view the archives. Just a PoC of what's possible without changi= ng infrastructure. Login using imap credentials, e.g., anonymous and user@= mail.com - I like the threaded view myself: >>>>>> http://blabn.net/archive-teas >>>>>> Or http://blabn.net/archive-all >>>>>> (hit reload if/after getting the error message; select the group y= ou are interested in). >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Lou >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On November 12, 2015 5:03:30 PM Russ Housley = wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Datatracker Projects >>>>>>> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >>>>>>> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan >>>>>>> - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert >>>>>>> - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert >>>>>>> - Review Tracking -- Robert >>>>>>> - Author Statistics -- Russ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Community & Other Projects >>>>>>> - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robe= rt >>>>>>> - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. RFC Services Projects >>>>>>> - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather >>>>>>> - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather >>>>>>> - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather >>>>>>> - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >>>>>>> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. Server Infrastructure >>>>>>> - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik >>>>>>> - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6. IDIQ Contractors >>>>>>> - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7. Parking Lot >>>>>>> - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS >>>>>>> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert >>>>>>> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? >>>>>>> - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? >>>>>>> - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik >>>>>>> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >>>>>>> - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool >>>>>>> - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8. AOB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>>>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>>> >>> ---------- >>> Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF >>> 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 >>> Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 >>> Email: amorris@amsl.com >>> >>> Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) >>> Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning >>> www.amsl.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> > > ---------- > Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF > 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 > Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 > Email: amorris@amsl.com > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > www.amsl.com > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Mon Nov 16 11:32:52 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765851A8889 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:32:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VzIe7eUdXWE8 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D905D1A8888 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from 78-68-120-205-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([78.68.120.205]:63989 helo=[192.168.1.128]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1ZyPWB-0001Uo-Ru; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:32:48 -0800 To: Ray Pelletier , Russ Housley References: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> <446357BB-EF4A-480C-AA1D-B7C14843656C@isoc.org> From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <564A2F4E.4020703@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:32:30 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <446357BB-EF4A-480C-AA1D-B7C14843656C@isoc.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7SmLWD3UMfuSnldbs4OxjcIgFlQj5rD18" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 78.68.120.205 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-development@ietf.org, housley@vigilsec.com, rpelletier@isoc.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 19:32:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --7SmLWD3UMfuSnldbs4OxjcIgFlQj5rD18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015-11-16 19:12, Ray Pelletier wrote: > Russ >=20 > On the Meetings Call today there was a suggestion that Agenda users > should be able to inout their timezone and have the Agenda reflect the = > schedule for that TZ. =20 Huh. We had that before the bootstrap upgrade. Looks like we lost it then. Should not be too hard to bring it back. Henrik > Suggestions for that work? >=20 > Ray >> On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Russ Housley wrote= : >>=20 >> Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern >>=20 >> 1. Datatracker Projects >> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan >> - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert >> - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert >> - Review Tracking -- Robert >> - Author Statistics -- Russ >>=20 >> 2. Community & Other Projects >> - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Rober= t >> - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg >>=20 >> 3. RFC Services Projects >> - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather >> - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather >> - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather >> - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert >>=20 >> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org >>=20 >> 5. Server Infrastructure >> - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik >> - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert >>=20 >> 6. IDIQ Contractors >> - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray >>=20 >> 7. Parking Lot >> - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS >> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert >> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? >> - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? >> - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik >> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >> - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool >> - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub >>=20 >> 8. AOB >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 --7SmLWD3UMfuSnldbs4OxjcIgFlQj5rD18 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWSi9dAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaL2wQALGq4nRLkmbfz3Ly0dBN6PGz 0smrEeyRqdVCEfmA1o8OHjNhtnGDFeBU+Bjilnd+2PyXdkBIuOeCVx7w+5aFpl22 VNdeduRSxQDWdNHAcPZYv74DK0C+jwfhRIzCAgZh6eWhrw13E9c5BD5y9gSICuUb 29kugyqPoGzmqzeQ7pgRPXky05aPHOh4yPttYgl6K2/9OXPbquxWCINynuOYLRd0 F64T5Mny2La4lFkXvhOcMSwHrJthnrI1x0jk9VqQhZ3D8he5QWTs5gCofCjSAAZS i/EwJEeNwdTReRK9SbeN184wZTXXZiJ3c5ixFCsfEN83kv1aBHAdaFXcixZkQNKI 5nz9Tcy4KSMRC7QJhRIJc9UELa8hQa6FJ9d5PUFEn4l3I45yr3vOLOL934aopGPP TXtmSIEjRZx2R5z7V0AE/61gXl+RzrJJdHXZHJ1sInaHxNSiPVEFYYCiPpQCTmwd wnprBC/yin4NzwKVdRRKCTSkg2hX/WMz9dYVeUZcQgDJkmTV+SIC1s7ciJYtPa+u vRhSL8VFL0txlmg8vUzX1YBASN8un2CcOg/cGxVpW9/NhrjCBt+zsougDgPngW0v U1X3wD9N30Yd9jpcKeWUWd0AaKBgZc2HgjLA+FT2jEz+6V5ZP7O2mo6o28bxF7CA Siqo7heET+ZuJelPn2G0 =gJNl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7SmLWD3UMfuSnldbs4OxjcIgFlQj5rD18-- From nobody Mon Nov 16 11:50:09 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA461A88E1 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:50:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.485 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.485 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 61ifrvS9ivGH for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2A001A88DA for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-71-164-199-31.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.164.199.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id tAGJo3bi013380 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:50:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-164-199-31.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.164.199.31] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> <150fe562188.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <149C5306-9343-4C9F-A706-77DB4FDAEB36@vigilsec.com> <1510156aba0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <1ED44AEF-45A2-425E-ACBB-B4E58DCBB491@amsl.com> <84469798-281A-4E6C-8644-D83374266277@vigilsec.com> <564A1691.5030103@levkowetz.com> <65D7A712-F13A-4777-936D-084989365BA5@vigilsec.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <564A3366.2060409@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:49:58 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <65D7A712-F13A-4777-936D-084989365BA5@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Updated Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 19:50:07 -0000 Some notes to help with the call duration On 11/16/15 12:07 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern > > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan Lots of progress here. Please be sure to look through the Oct/Nov release notes at https://datatracker.ietf.org/release (releases 6.6.0, 6.6.1, 6.7.0, 6.7.1, 6.7.2, 6.8.0, 6.9.0, and 6.10.0) As we went through the plan, we found things that needed to be split-out/deferred. Those are shown in the current version of the MergePlan page. > - Make Django a dependency instead of using our own copy -- Henrik done > - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert Ready to go - the next action is with Ray (I believe that's to ask for IDIQ bids) (Ray - let me know if I'm mistaken on any of these) > - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert Also ready to go - the next action is with Ray (I believe that's to ask for IDIQ bids) > - Review Tracking -- Robert Ready to go, also with Ray, but this should go out for general bid. > - Author Statistics -- Russ > > 2. Community & Other Projects > - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert nothing to report > - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg > > 3. RFC Services Projects > - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather > - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather > - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather > - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert RSOC is supposed to be done with their review this week. The IAB will get poked next, followed (or possibly in parallel) by a community comment period. This should put things in "ready to go our for bid" by end of year. > > 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools > - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org Pending glue code being tracked in the MergePlan > > 5. Server Infrastructure > - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik > - CDN support for tools.ietf.org -- Alexa > - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert This is working. Trouble reports are minimal, mostly related to broken messages in the archives. > - Discontinue MonArch email archives -- Robert > > 6. IDIQ Contractors > - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray > > 7. Parking Lot > - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS > - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert > - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? > - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? > - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik > - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert > - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool > - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub > > 8. AOB Meeting materials: I got a lot of input from Henrik and the secretariat and am still in the process of creating an SoW. I hope to have a good draft out in a week or so. > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Mon Nov 16 11:57:41 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87FC1A8904 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:57:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.485 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.485 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VmuqjT0FBMQX for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:57:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2ED1E1A88FF for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:57:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-71-164-199-31.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.164.199.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id tAGJvahX014096 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:57:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-164-199-31.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.164.199.31] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> <150fe562188.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <149C5306-9343-4C9F-A706-77DB4FDAEB36@vigilsec.com> <1510156aba0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <1ED44AEF-45A2-425E-ACBB-B4E58DCBB491@amsl.com> <84469798-281A-4E6C-8644-D83374266277@vigilsec.com> <564A1691.5030103@levkowetz.com> <65D7A712-F13A-4777-936D-084989365BA5@vigilsec.com> <564A3366.2060409@nostrum.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <564A352B.3060400@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:57:31 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <564A3366.2060409@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Updated Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 19:57:40 -0000 It would probably also be useful for folks to skim http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/query?owner=&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&group=priority&max=1999&col=id&col=summary&col=type&col=priority&col=component&col=reporter&report=29&desc=1&order=id before the call. On 11/16/15 1:49 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > Some notes to help with the call duration > > On 11/16/15 12:07 PM, Russ Housley wrote: >> Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern >> >> 1. Datatracker Projects >> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan > Lots of progress here. Please be sure to look through the Oct/Nov > release notes at https://datatracker.ietf.org/release > (releases 6.6.0, 6.6.1, 6.7.0, 6.7.1, 6.7.2, 6.8.0, 6.9.0, and 6.10.0) > > As we went through the plan, we found things that needed to be > split-out/deferred. Those are shown in the current version of the > MergePlan page. > >> - Make Django a dependency instead of using our own copy -- Henrik > done >> - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert > Ready to go - the next action is with Ray (I believe that's to ask for > IDIQ bids) > (Ray - let me know if I'm mistaken on any of these) >> - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert > Also ready to go - the next action is with Ray (I believe that's to > ask for IDIQ bids) >> - Review Tracking -- Robert > Ready to go, also with Ray, but this should go out for general bid. >> - Author Statistics -- Russ >> >> 2. Community & Other Projects >> - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- >> Robert > nothing to report >> - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg >> >> 3. RFC Services Projects >> - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather >> - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather >> - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather >> - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert > RSOC is supposed to be done with their review this week. The IAB will > get poked next, followed (or possibly in parallel) by a community > comment period. This should put things in "ready to go our for bid" > by end of year. >> >> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org > Pending glue code being tracked in the MergePlan >> >> 5. Server Infrastructure >> - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik >> - CDN support for tools.ietf.org -- Alexa >> - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert > This is working. Trouble reports are minimal, mostly related to broken > messages in the archives. >> - Discontinue MonArch email archives -- Robert >> >> 6. IDIQ Contractors >> - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray >> >> 7. Parking Lot >> - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS >> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert >> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? >> - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? >> - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik >> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >> - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool >> - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub >> >> 8. AOB > Meeting materials: I got a lot of input from Henrik and the > secretariat and am still in the process of creating an SoW. > I hope to have a good draft out in a week or so. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Mon Nov 16 13:47:37 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EAD1B3208 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:47:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GgQte875wbyL for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96D81B320D for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB37F24036; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:47:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 79IKUWOEM1Rr; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:45:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.104] (pool-108-51-128-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.51.128.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D6BF2402E; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:47:03 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <564A3366.2060409@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:17:02 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> <150fe562188.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <149C5306-9343-4C9F-A706-77DB4FDAEB36@vigilsec.com> <1510156aba0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <1ED44AEF-45A2-425E-ACBB-B4E58DCBB491@amsl.com> <84469798-281A-4E6C-8644-D83374266277@vigilsec.com> <564A1691.5030103@levkowetz.com> <65D7A712-F13A-4777-936D-084989365BA5@vigilsec.com> <564A3366.2060409@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Updated Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 21:47:36 -0000 Robert: >> 5. Server Infrastructure >> - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert > This is working. Trouble reports are minimal, mostly related to broken = messages in the archives. Do we have a plan for the needed cleanup? Is it so big that we need to = contract for help? Russ From nobody Mon Nov 16 13:47:39 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE751B3208 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:47:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7yumcuBvMORt for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:47:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A3D1B3210 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:47:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB143F2402E; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:47:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ThuQJPQUHoxc; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:45:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.104] (pool-108-51-128-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.51.128.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE91DF24035; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:47:03 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <564A2F4E.4020703@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:47:02 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <067A5990-C167-407D-B7E2-DE83CFB9A5F0@vigilsec.com> <446357BB-EF4A-480C-AA1D-B7C14843656C@isoc.org> <564A2F4E.4020703@levkowetz.com> To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 21:47:36 -0000 There is already a ticket for this: http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/959 Russ On Nov 16, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > On 2015-11-16 19:12, Ray Pelletier wrote: >> Russ >> >> On the Meetings Call today there was a suggestion that Agenda users >> should be able to inout their timezone and have the Agenda reflect the >> schedule for that TZ. > > Huh. We had that before the bootstrap upgrade. Looks like we lost it > then. Should not be too hard to bring it back. > > > Henrik > >> Suggestions for that work? >> >> Ray >>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Russ Housley wrote: >>> >>> Tools Call Agenda -- 17 November 2015 at 13:00 Eastern >>> >>> 1. Datatracker Projects >>> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >>> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan >>> - Tracking Internet-Draft Manual Post Requests -- Robert >>> - Interim Meeting Management -- Robert >>> - Review Tracking -- Robert >>> - Author Statistics -- Russ >>> >>> 2. Community & Other Projects >>> - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert >>> - IETF Website Makeover -- Joe and Greg >>> >>> 3. RFC Services Projects >>> - RFC Editor Website Makeover -- Alice and Heather >>> - RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics -- Heather >>> - RSE's Design Teams -- Heather >>> - RFC Format-related SOWs -- Robert >>> >>> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >>> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org >>> >>> 5. Server Infrastructure >>> - File sync from Sunnyvale to Orlando -- Henrik >>> - IMAP access to the email archives -- Robert >>> >>> 6. IDIQ Contractors >>> - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray >>> >>> 7. Parking Lot >>> - Mentor Support Tool -- AMS >>> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert >>> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? >>> - Can the test process for the NomCom Tool be more comprehensive? >>> - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik >>> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >>> - Add the YANG checker to the I-D Submission Tool >>> - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub >>> >>> 8. AOB >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> > From nobody Tue Nov 17 12:05:22 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206E51A879D for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 12:05:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cZOd6qelaMq2 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 12:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BF31A8799 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 12:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91A5F2403D for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:05:08 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b4uwFxx6c-Vw for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:03:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.104] (pool-108-51-128-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.51.128.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24246F2402E for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:04:48 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:04:37 -0500 Message-Id: <5C730FEB-BB9B-4977-B374-2FA72F337257@vigilsec.com> To: IETF Tools Development Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Priority on funded development tasks X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 20:05:21 -0000 We discussed eight chunks of work that the IAOC will need to fund. We need to attack them in priority order to ensure that we stay within the tools budget for 2016. Below is my view of the priority. Please tell me if you see things differently. (1) Repair the "broken" messages in the email archive The estimate is that there are 34,000 messages that need to be fixed. Ryan will repair the ones in the IETF Discussion list (ietf@ietf.org) in order to get a feel for the hours to do the whole job. Expect to award the work to AMS once the estimate is in hand. (2) Improvements to mail archive tool Current estime is 40 hours. Robert will write a short SOW. Expect to award to AMS since the original author can make the changes more quickly than anyone else. (3) Interim Meeting Management IDIQ bid; SOW: draft-sparks-genarea-interim-management-00.txt (4) Tracking Manual I-D Post Requests IDIQ bid; SOW: draft-sparks-genarea-manualpost-tracking-00.txt (5) Review Tracking RFP; SOW: draft-sparks-genarea-review-tracker-03.txt (6) RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics Expect this to be ready for bid in mid-December. (7) RFC Format-related Tools RFP; Six SOWs: http://www.nostrum.com/~rjsparks/rfced/ (8) Author Statistics IDIQ bid; SOW: draft-housley-sow-author-statistics-01.txt (9) Meeting Materials Management Robert is just beginning the SOW. Expect IDIQ bid in mid-2016. 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Estimating $25K.=20 Greg can elaborate.=20 Ray > On Nov 17, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Russ Housley wrote: >=20 > We discussed eight chunks of work that the IAOC will need to fund. We > need to attack them in priority order to ensure that we stay within the > tools budget for 2016. Below is my view of the priority. Please tell > me if you see things differently. >=20 > (1) Repair the "broken" messages in the email archive >=20 > The estimate is that there are 34,000 messages that need to be > fixed. Ryan will repair the ones in the IETF Discussion list > (ietf@ietf.org) in order to get a feel for the hours to do the > whole job. Expect to award the work to AMS once the estimate is > in hand. >=20 > (2) Improvements to mail archive tool >=20 > Current estime is 40 hours. Robert will write a short SOW. > Expect to award to AMS since the original author can make the > changes more quickly than anyone else. >=20 > (3) Interim Meeting Management >=20 > IDIQ bid; SOW: draft-sparks-genarea-interim-management-00.txt >=20 > (4) Tracking Manual I-D Post Requests >=20 > IDIQ bid; SOW: draft-sparks-genarea-manualpost-tracking-00.txt >=20 > (5) Review Tracking >=20 > RFP; SOW: draft-sparks-genarea-review-tracker-03.txt >=20 > (6) RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics >=20 > Expect this to be ready for bid in mid-December. >=20 > (7) RFC Format-related Tools >=20 > RFP; Six SOWs: http://www.nostrum.com/~rjsparks/rfced/ >=20 > (8) Author Statistics >=20 > IDIQ bid; SOW: draft-housley-sow-author-statistics-01.txt >=20 > (9) Meeting Materials Management >=20 > Robert is just beginning the SOW. Expect IDIQ bid in mid-2016. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Wed Nov 18 08:46:22 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383031A6FD9 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:46:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7FsA5WZl_NzM for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:46:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBA01A1B43 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:46:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659BA1E5A35 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:45:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LdapOXBc6sS3 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from Heathers-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [98.125.220.238]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3375C1E5A2E for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:45:37 -0800 (PST) To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <5C730FEB-BB9B-4977-B374-2FA72F337257@vigilsec.com> From: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Message-ID: <564CAB56.2040408@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 08:46:14 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5C730FEB-BB9B-4977-B374-2FA72F337257@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Priority on funded development tasks X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 16:46:21 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Out of curiosity, how does the TMC decide what goes for an IDIQ bid versus out for the open to the universe bid? On 11/17/15 12:04 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > We discussed eight chunks of work that the IAOC will need to fund. We > need to attack them in priority order to ensure that we stay within the > tools budget for 2016. Below is my view of the priority. Please tell > me if you see things differently. > > (1) Repair the "broken" messages in the email archive > > The estimate is that there are 34,000 messages that need to be > fixed. Ryan will repair the ones in the IETF Discussion list > (ietf@ietf.org) in order to get a feel for the hours to do the > whole job. Expect to award the work to AMS once the estimate is > in hand. > > (2) Improvements to mail archive tool > > Current estime is 40 hours. Robert will write a short SOW. > Expect to award to AMS since the original author can make the > changes more quickly than anyone else. > > (3) Interim Meeting Management > > IDIQ bid; SOW: draft-sparks-genarea-interim-management-00.txt > > (4) Tracking Manual I-D Post Requests > > IDIQ bid; SOW: draft-sparks-genarea-manualpost-tracking-00.txt > > (5) Review Tracking > > RFP; SOW: draft-sparks-genarea-review-tracker-03.txt > > (6) RFC Editor Statistics and Metrics > > Expect this to be ready for bid in mid-December. > > (7) RFC Format-related Tools > > RFP; Six SOWs: http://www.nostrum.com/~rjsparks/rfced/ > > (8) Author Statistics > > IDIQ bid; SOW: draft-housley-sow-author-statistics-01.txt > > (9) Meeting Materials Management > > Robert is just beginning the SOW. Expect IDIQ bid in mid-2016. > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWTKtWAAoJEER/xjINbZoGApgIAL4kFAKCVYRju77GoR3SA8HO zLjr/xHsdnPsijHKFVm4X1/fRGOtbVFC7xG9Yfe+W5l88/fxZEJLxGp3cXK3z1K7 inNo+6ChPgNiqb0cQdb3qvS2eV4DgGcAj06ZenV1+YyEhMicqCuyfIDlLyTgzMuV KVWfPM11L7eLAYqSNo2Qr6shPGXspwhhwhOXKIob5AGvggdYZjf44ICcdc08ocOr +sQjr1XJaSw6Aq6UTxA2FOZuqP6rRMnW7TgOKOeof4FaIBo7IBiunYWj8rumZUnQ DGTBuM/FdWP7rHwKSEo84iptW4j/lpAHwXB3InRPrfwNX8mvA8PqBEpRNdORNT0= =FkVK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Wed Nov 18 11:52:34 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C371A9237 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 11:52:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cJPCk_g6yyli for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 11:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9618E1A9173 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 11:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B0FF24041; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:52:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ijUj6xb87vLY; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:50:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.104] (pool-108-51-128-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.51.128.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A39F2402E; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:51:57 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <564CAB56.2040408@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:51:46 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5C730FEB-BB9B-4977-B374-2FA72F337257@vigilsec.com> <564CAB56.2040408@rfc-editor.org> To: Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Priority on funded development tasks X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:52:30 -0000 Heather: > Out of curiosity, how does the TMC decide what goes for an IDIQ bid > versus out for the open to the universe bid? The IDIQ bidders are pre-qualified for work in python, especially using = the django framework. If we need other skills, then we go for the wider = audience. When we do a full RFP, we make sure that the IDIQ venders = receive the RFP as well. 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RjS -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:27:51 -0800 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Robert Sparks A new version of I-D, draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Robert Sparks and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements Revision: 00 Title: Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email List Archiving, Web- based Browsing and Search Tool Document date: 2015-11-19 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 5 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00 Abstract: The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014. 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Name:		draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements
Revision:	00
Title:		Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email List Archiving, Web- based Browsing and Search Tool
Document date:	2015-11-19
Group:		Individual Submission
Pages:		5
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00


Abstract:
   The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the
   requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014.  This
   memo captures the requirements for a set of improvements that have
   been identified during its initial years of community use.

                                                                                  


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--------------090001060804030909030603-- From nobody Fri Nov 20 14:14:41 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D091B3EF4 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:14:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GRetlIRp09ha for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDCF1B3EEF for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EE9F2405B; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:14:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WPFlCfvO8wPn; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.104] (pool-108-51-128-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.51.128.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21963F2401F; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:14:06 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-185--548483490 From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <564E4D8E.2060803@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:13:55 -0500 Message-Id: <62CC5E35-6806-4B94-8570-2BB84C0697AC@vigilsec.com> References: <20151119222751.20123.78646.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <564E4D8E.2060803@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:14:40 -0000 --Apple-Mail-185--548483490 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Robert: Thanks for putting this together so quickly. You certainly beat the = date it was promised. I do not understand the 2nd paragraph of Section 2.3. I understand that = scroll bars are needed, but it is unclear when you expect addition = messages to be fetched and when you do not. I think that the Security Considerations should say that this tools is = primarily used anonymously to access public mail archives, and then go = on to say something about authentication for administrative access. Russ On Nov 19, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > Please review and comment. >=20 > RjS >=20 >=20 > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:27:51 -0800 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: Robert Sparks >=20 > A new version of I-D, = draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Robert Sparks and posted to the > IETF repository. >=20 > Name: draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements > Revision: 00 > Title: Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email = List Archiving, Web- based Browsing and Search Tool > Document date: 2015-11-19 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 5 > URL: = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improve= ments-00.txt > Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvement= s/ > Htmlized: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00 >=20 >=20 > Abstract: > The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the > requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014. = This > memo captures the requirements for a set of improvements that have > been identified during its initial years of community use. >=20 > = =20 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > The IETF Secretariat >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --Apple-Mail-185--548483490 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Robert:

Thanks for putting this together so quickly.  You certainly beat the date it was promised.

I do not understand the 2nd paragraph of Section 2.3.  I understand that scroll bars are needed, but it is unclear when you expect addition messages to be fetched and when you do not.

I think that the Security Considerations should say that this tools is primarily used anonymously to access public mail archives, and then go on to say something about authentication for administrative access.

Russ



On Nov 19, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Robert Sparks wrote:

Please review and comment.

RjS


-------- Forwarded Message --------
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:27:51 -0800
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To: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> 


A new version of I-D, draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Robert Sparks and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:		draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements
Revision:	00
Title:		Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email List Archiving, Web- based Browsing and Search Tool
Document date:	2015-11-19
Group:		Individual Submission
Pages:		5
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00


Abstract:
   The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the
   requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014.  This
   memo captures the requirements for a set of improvements that have
   been identified during its initial years of community use.

                                                                                  


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--Apple-Mail-185--548483490-- From nobody Fri Nov 20 14:24:27 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CBE1B3F1B for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:24:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.484 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.484 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3uC69U5ofxDu for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB2801B3F21 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-71-164-199-31.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.164.199.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id tAKMOL6u068402 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Fri, 20 Nov 2015 16:24:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-164-199-31.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.164.199.31] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: Russ Housley References: <20151119222751.20123.78646.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <564E4D8E.2060803@nostrum.com> <62CC5E35-6806-4B94-8570-2BB84C0697AC@vigilsec.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <564F9D8F.3080408@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 16:24:15 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <62CC5E35-6806-4B94-8570-2BB84C0697AC@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050708060105080506050604" Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:24:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050708060105080506050604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/20/15 4:13 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > Robert: > > Thanks for putting this together so quickly. You certainly beat the > date it was promised. > > I do not understand the 2nd paragraph of Section 2.3. I understand > that scroll bars are needed, but it is unclear when you expect > addition messages to be fetched and when you do not. I don't know how much detail to go into in the draft. The issue is fixing a bug in the current implementation that fetches more messages when the scrollbar reaches the bottom. > > I think that the Security Considerations should say that this tools is > primarily used anonymously to access public mail archives, and then go > on to say something about authentication for administrative access. 6778 talks to that, but I can pull it forward. > > Russ > > > > On Nov 19, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > >> Please review and comment. >> >> RjS >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: New Version Notification for >> draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt >> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:27:51 -0800 >> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> To: Robert Sparks >> >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt >> has been successfully submitted by Robert Sparks and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >> Name: draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements >> Revision: 00 >> Title: Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email List Archiving, Web- based Browsing and Search Tool >> Document date: 2015-11-19 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 5 >> URL:https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt >> Status:https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements/ >> Htmlized:https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00 >> >> >> Abstract: >> The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the >> requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014. This >> memo captures the requirements for a set of improvements that have >> been identified during its initial years of community use. >> >> >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available attools.ietf.org . >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > --------------050708060105080506050604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 11/20/15 4:13 PM, Russ Housley wrote:
Robert:

Thanks for putting this together so quickly.  You certainly beat the date it was promised.

I do not understand the 2nd paragraph of Section 2.3.  I understand that scroll bars are needed, but it is unclear when you expect addition messages to be fetched and when you do not.
I don't know how much detail to go into in the draft. The issue is fixing a bug in the current implementation that fetches more messages when the scrollbar reaches the bottom.

I think that the Security Considerations should say that this tools is primarily used anonymously to access public mail archives, and then go on to say something about authentication for administrative access.
6778 talks to that, but I can pull it forward.

Russ



On Nov 19, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Robert Sparks wrote:

Please review and comment.

RjS


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:27:51 -0800
From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
To: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> 


A new version of I-D, draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Robert Sparks and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:		draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements
Revision:	00
Title:		Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email List Archiving, Web- based Browsing and Search Tool
Document date:	2015-11-19
Group:		Individual Submission
Pages:		5
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00


Abstract:
   The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the
   requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014.  This
   memo captures the requirements for a set of improvements that have
   been identified during its initial years of community use.

                                                                                  


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--------------050708060105080506050604-- From nobody Fri Nov 20 14:32:39 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA851B3F41 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:32:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.667 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.667 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ypjFvXgrxa7s for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.39.168]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 17B831B3F3E for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 14:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16210 invoked by uid 0); 20 Nov 2015 22:32:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy6.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2015 22:32:33 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id jyYM1r00j2SSUrH01yYQre; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:32:31 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Jv9i8qIC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=uEJ9t1CZtbIA:10 a=qtqOOiqGOCEA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=Z80JlwQ0AAAA:8 a=779VAn8Ri5kvPyPsxswA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=qicTa592094A:10 a=nOEkaCOQDncA:10 a=__M3zFEqW_UA:10 a=sIVsILfLpIAA:10 a=A-eLXKH0zlIA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:Cc:References:To:Subject; bh=kEG/zPDAKf5arvXUTbpGPI3FwsBFZcAiMXLnJUkGIu0=; b=OEpOFm5SD5yB1outrZwZ4sw6PDffXo8NZhErIQSy3L51IqplwlgM3dV66er5x16z4mMrOizOvr6k/bHKpp0mx4eVvymthv+x0zGb+wKemyuOQpJZa+hh8WCzSrSGMYSQ; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:58286 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzuEB-0003Kr-77; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:32:23 -0700 To: Robert Sparks References: <20151119222751.20123.78646.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <564E4D8E.2060803@nostrum.com> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <564F9F71.3060206@labn.net> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:32:17 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <564E4D8E.2060803@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:32:37 -0000 Robert, Very useful draft - thank you! Some comments 1) I think it would be good to have the same function as the old archive in addition to what you already cover, namely what you see at the bottom of any message, e.g., http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/teas/current/msg00959.html * *References*: o *[Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-05.txt * + /From:/ internet-drafts * Prev by Date: *[Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-05.txt * * Next by Date: *Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-04.txt * * Previous by thread: *[Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-05.txt * * Index(es): o *Date* o *Thread* 2) I think small screen/mobile should also be added. For example the above link as well as indexes work pretty well on my phone while the new archive is pretty hard to use. 3) the link to the archive tool in the draft is wrong (missing ive) Thanks again, Lou On 11/19/2015 5:30 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > Please review and comment. > > RjS > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: New Version Notification for > draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:27:51 -0800 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: Robert Sparks > > > > A new version of I-D, draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Robert Sparks and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements > Revision: 00 > Title: Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email List Archiving, Web- based Browsing and Search Tool > Document date: 2015-11-19 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 5 > URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements/ > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00 > > > Abstract: > The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the > requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014. This > memo captures the requirements for a set of improvements that have > been identified during its initial years of community use. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Fri Nov 20 15:13:56 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC1B1B3FDA for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:13:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.485 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.485 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UsYbzvdMeRUk for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:13:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B31D1B3FC0 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:13:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-71-164-199-31.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.164.199.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id tAKNDpuk073129 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:13:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-71-164-199-31.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.164.199.31] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: Lou Berger References: <20151119222751.20123.78646.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <564E4D8E.2060803@nostrum.com> <564F9F71.3060206@labn.net> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <564FA92A.7020007@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 17:13:46 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <564F9F71.3060206@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 23:13:55 -0000 On 11/20/15 4:32 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > Robert, > > Very useful draft - thank you! > Some comments > > 1) I think it would be good to have the same function as the old > archive in addition to what you already cover, namely what you see at > the bottom of any message, e.g., > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/teas/current/msg00959.html > > * *References*: > o *[Teas] I-D Action: > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-05.txt > * > + /From:/ internet-drafts Do you actually use that one? Adding the equivalent functionality of all of the below are already in the draft (section 2.2 bullet 1, section 2.1 bullet 2) > > * Prev by Date: *[Teas] I-D Action: > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-05.txt > * > * Next by Date: *Re: [Teas] I-D Action: > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-04.txt > * > * Previous by thread: *[Teas] I-D Action: > draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-05.txt > * The two below are already in the deployed tool. > * Index(es): > o *Date* > > o *Thread* > > > 2) I think small screen/mobile should also be added. For example the > above link as well as indexes work pretty well on my phone while the new > archive is pretty hard to use. We can rephrase the bullet to use those terms, but that's what 2.4 bullet 4 is intended to accomplish. > > 3) the link to the archive tool in the draft is wrong (missing ive) ack. > > Thanks again, > Lou > > > On 11/19/2015 5:30 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> Please review and comment. >> >> RjS >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: New Version Notification for >> draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt >> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:27:51 -0800 >> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> To: Robert Sparks >> >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt >> has been successfully submitted by Robert Sparks and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >> Name: draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements >> Revision: 00 >> Title: Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email List Archiving, Web- based Browsing and Search Tool >> Document date: 2015-11-19 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 5 >> URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt >> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements/ >> Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00 >> >> >> Abstract: >> The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the >> requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014. This >> memo captures the requirements for a set of improvements that have >> been identified during its initial years of community use. >> >> >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From nobody Sun Nov 22 19:01:09 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F243F1B2C47 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 19:01:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.667 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.667 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HHksoKdp2_vz for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 19:01:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.33.93]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 366921B2B55 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 19:01:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30092 invoked by uid 0); 23 Nov 2015 03:01:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy8.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2015 03:01:03 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id kr0x1r00L2SSUrH01r107r; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 20:01:02 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Jv9i8qIC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=uEJ9t1CZtbIA:10 a=qtqOOiqGOCEA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=Z80JlwQ0AAAA:8 a=Pa7lewP4KFyyYRxKV5YA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=qicTa592094A:10 a=nOEkaCOQDncA:10 a=__M3zFEqW_UA:10 a=sIVsILfLpIAA:10 a=A-eLXKH0zlIA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:Cc:References:To:Subject; bh=HGcjkzzKMWGwlFERZN/ipWLO12KJknsJTiMHDj61d+M=; b=CZ3f2qEnECn386u+c+raHT/cO3YxCemQ5bO7rMaxDC6u3RN1i2Nr6IHdR+aGG/9E3AnRFQ/o38msXV/EjaHmnNbG8lEXWAhdIrw7AGRAWELPBKC3oM9aEKSlsKklEpNj; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:60294 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1a0hNC-0000YV-SN; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 20:00:58 -0700 To: Robert Sparks References: <20151119222751.20123.78646.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <564E4D8E.2060803@nostrum.com> <564F9F71.3060206@labn.net> <564FA92A.7020007@nostrum.com> From: Lou Berger X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56528164.30601@labn.net> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:00:52 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <564FA92A.7020007@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 03:01:08 -0000 Robert, On 11/20/2015 6:13 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > > On 11/20/15 4:32 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >> Robert, >> >> Very useful draft - thank you! >> Some comments >> >> 1) I think it would be good to have the same function as the old >> archive in addition to what you already cover, namely what you see at >> the bottom of any message, e.g., >> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/teas/current/msg00959.html >> >> * *References*: >> o *[Teas] I-D Action: >> draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-05.txt >> * >> + /From:/ internet-drafts > Do you actually use that one? not often, the server stats should be able to give you a feel if this is important. > Adding the equivalent functionality of all of the below are already in > the draft > (section 2.2 bullet 1, section 2.1 bullet 2) >> * Prev by Date: *[Teas] I-D Action: >> draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-05.txt >> * >> * Next by Date: *Re: [Teas] I-D Action: >> draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-04.txt >> * >> * Previous by thread: *[Teas] I-D Action: >> draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-05.txt >> * The difference between the above and how I read the current text is that the above are available *all the time* while the draft limits their available to the way the message was viewed. i.e., "when grouped by thread" and "previous/next in (search) list". The latter isn't supported in the old tool and is a nice addition. > The two below are already in the deployed tool. Sure, subject to the acknowledged limitations. >> * Index(es): >> o *Date* >> >> o *Thread* >> >> 2) I think small screen/mobile should also be added. For example the >> above link as well as indexes work pretty well on my phone while the new >> archive is pretty hard to use. > We can rephrase the bullet to use those terms, but that's what 2.4 > bullet 4 is intended > to accomplish. small screen/mobile support is orthogonal from no JS. -- My mobile browser (chrome) supports javascript just fine. -- I think there should be a requirements section even if the solution ends up being the same. Cheers, Lou >> 3) the link to the archive tool in the draft is wrong (missing ive) > ack. >> Thanks again, >> Lou >> >> >> On 11/19/2015 5:30 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >>> Please review and comment. >>> >>> RjS >>> >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: New Version Notification for >>> draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt >>> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:27:51 -0800 >>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >>> To: Robert Sparks >>> >>> >>> >>> A new version of I-D, draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt >>> has been successfully submitted by Robert Sparks and posted to the >>> IETF repository. >>> >>> Name: draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements >>> Revision: 00 >>> Title: Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email List Archiving, Web- based Browsing and Search Tool >>> Document date: 2015-11-19 >>> Group: Individual Submission >>> Pages: 5 >>> URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00.txt >>> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements/ >>> Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-00 >>> >>> >>> Abstract: >>> The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the >>> requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014. This >>> memo captures the requirements for a set of improvements that have >>> been identified during its initial years of community use. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>> >>> The IETF Secretariat >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From nobody Mon Nov 30 13:36:55 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F195A1B3767 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:36:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m9FLkzV0Tz9t for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:36:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 298C61B3722 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:36:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-173-57-210-37.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [173.57.210.37]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id tAULaoX5069728 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:36:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host pool-173-57-210-37.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [173.57.210.37] claimed to be unnumerable.local References: <20151130213318.24591.94158.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: IETF Tools Development From: Robert Sparks X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20151130213318.24591.94158.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: <565CC16D.9000101@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:36:45 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151130213318.24591.94158.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000506030806050107010306" Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 21:36:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000506030806050107010306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This attempts to incorporate Lou's comments - see the changelog for details. RjS -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:33:18 -0800 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Robert Sparks A new version of I-D, draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Robert Sparks and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements Revision: 01 Title: Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email List Archiving, Web- based Browsing and Search Tool Document date: 2015-11-30 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 6 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01 Abstract: The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014. This memo captures the requirements for a set of improvements that have been identified during its initial years of community use. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Title:		Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email List Archiving, Web- based Browsing and Search Tool
Document date:	2015-11-30
Group:		Individual Submission
Pages:		6
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   The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the
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--------------000506030806050107010306-- From nobody Mon Nov 30 13:59:41 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBF61A00D8 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:59:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wbRWIdply3j7 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:59:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8FA1A00A3 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:59:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E2EF2406E; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 16:59:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BaSKSaUsFzby; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 16:57:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.104] (pool-108-51-128-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.51.128.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B052F2403D; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 16:58:57 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-61-314607827 From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <565CC16D.9000101@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 16:58:46 -0500 Message-Id: <947C6135-C27F-406E-A8AD-2DACFECD735E@vigilsec.com> References: <20151130213318.24591.94158.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <565CC16D.9000101@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 21:59:40 -0000 --Apple-Mail-61-314607827 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks. Just one comment. I think it might be better to change the = section heading fro Section 2.5 to "Improve Use of Display Space". Russ On Nov 30, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > This attempts to incorporate Lou's comments - see the changelog for = details. >=20 > RjS >=20 >=20 > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:33:18 -0800 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: Robert Sparks >=20 > A new version of I-D, = draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt > has been successfully submitted by Robert Sparks and posted to the > IETF repository. >=20 > Name: draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements > Revision: 01 > Title: Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email = List Archiving, Web- based Browsing and Search Tool > Document date: 2015-11-30 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 6 > URL: = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improve= ments-01.txt > Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvement= s/ > Htmlized: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01 > Diff: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvem= ents-01 >=20 > Abstract: > The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the > requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014. = This > memo captures the requirements for a set of improvements that have > been identified during its initial years of community use. >=20 > = =20 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > The IETF Secretariat >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --Apple-Mail-61-314607827 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Thanks.  Just one comment.  I think it might be better to change the section heading fro Section 2.5 to "Improve Use of Display Space".

Russ


On Nov 30, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Robert Sparks wrote:

This attempts to incorporate Lou's comments - see the changelog for details.

RjS


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:33:18 -0800
From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
To: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> 


A new version of I-D, draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt
has been successfully submitted by Robert Sparks and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:		draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements
Revision:	01
Title:		Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email List Archiving, Web- based Browsing and Search Tool
Document date:	2015-11-30
Group:		Individual Submission
Pages:		6
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01
Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01

Abstract:
   The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the
   requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014.  This
   memo captures the requirements for a set of improvements that have
   been identified during its initial years of community use.

                                                                                  


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--Apple-Mail-61-314607827-- From nobody Mon Nov 30 14:24:28 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE8C1B318A for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:24:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.666 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.666 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jU5fFzDfrf3I for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.38.55]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D3C41B3165 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15814 invoked by uid 0); 30 Nov 2015 22:24:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2015 22:24:20 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id nyQB1r00k2SSUrH01yQEv5; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:24:19 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=dqRIVTQ4 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=ZtmoTmN-bWoA:10 a=qtqOOiqGOCEA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=tGX7uwomAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=Z80JlwQ0AAAA:8 a=V_uO-fcnT0kLpC8UkLoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4jrhFGp2PNK6TDoeI0YA:9 a=Z-mGAFBPF5sk8woc:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:CC:To:From; bh=zNQhVVQv1PLuPx51M6Kr3/XF1gsJ9W1MEjd6g7AhtEE=; b=LmD1ABhqXfb2YY+Ibz+L66BlgLaY7k5cOnD+r0a30H1OCP4OjHLNckHcZ3utyXcSrFeJphHc3bGIEboG31l2ZAWonAoJNKRMYe1edPN3euHuHwuW8xG39ErldO5IKgEv; Received: from [172.56.2.102] (port=27184 helo=[192.0.0.4]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1a3Wrk-0007L2-UL; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:24:13 -0700 From: Lou Berger To: Russ Housley , Robert Sparks Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 17:24:08 -0500 Message-ID: <1515a7eef58.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <947C6135-C27F-406E-A8AD-2DACFECD735E@vigilsec.com> References: <20151130213318.24591.94158.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <565CC16D.9000101@nostrum.com> <947C6135-C27F-406E-A8AD-2DACFECD735E@vigilsec.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 AquaMail/1.5.9.14 (build: 22000040) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------1515a7ef41e5782818430b1ba0" X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 172.56.2.102 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 22:24:27 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------------1515a7ef41e5782818430b1ba0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm okay with the changes, but note that my comment was requesting improved support for mobile devices. Lou On November 30, 2015 5:00:05 PM Russ Housley wrote: > Thanks. Just one comment. I think it might be better to change the > section heading fro Section 2.5 to "Improve Use of Display Space". > > Russ > > > On Nov 30, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > >> This attempts to incorporate Lou's comments - see the changelog for details. >> >> RjS >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: New Version Notification for >> draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt >> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:33:18 -0800 >> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> To: Robert Sparks >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt >> has been successfully submitted by Robert Sparks and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >> Name: draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements >> Revision: 01 >> Title: Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email List Archiving, >> Web- based Browsing and Search Tool >> Document date: 2015-11-30 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 6 >> URL: >> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt >> Status: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements/ >> Htmlized: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01 >> Diff: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01 >> >> Abstract: >> The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the >> requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014. This >> memo captures the requirements for a set of improvements that have >> been identified during its initial years of community use. >> >> >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > > > > ---------- > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > ------------1515a7ef41e5782818430b1ba0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I'm okay with the changes, but note that my comment was requesting improved support for mobile devices.

Lou

On November 30, 2015 5:00:05 PM Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:

Thanks.  Just one comment.  I think it might be better to change the section heading fro Section 2.5 to "Improve Use of Display Space".

Russ


On Nov 30, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Robert Sparks wrote:

This attempts to incorporate Lou's comments - see the changelog for details.

RjS


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:33:18 -0800
From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
To: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> 


A new version of I-D,
draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt
has been successfully submitted by Robert Sparks and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:		draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements
Revision:	01
Title:		Requirements for Improvements to the IETF Email List Archiving,
Web- based Browsing and Search Tool
Document date:	2015-11-30
Group:		Individual Submission
Pages:		6
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01
Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-improvements-01

Abstract:
   The Web-based IETF email archive search tool based on the
   requirements captured in RFC6778 was deployed in January 2014.  This
   memo captures the requirements for a set of improvements that have
   been identified during its initial years of community use.

                                                                           
      


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