From nobody Tue Nov 1 14:49:25 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1D1129532 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:49:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HM0shS2QWpIQ for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D84CF12995A for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uA1LnKDT038163 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:49:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: IETF Tools Development From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <81e8f8af-398d-9328-d32f-bcf92cdd214e@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:49:20 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Post submit survey? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 21:49:24 -0000 Alia had an interesting idea in a conversation the other day that I wanted to capture before it gets away. Her suggestion was to add a survey to the draft submission process - the survey would ask what tool the submitter used to prepare the draft, how happy they were with that tool. The survey could end with a page pointing to the known authoring tools, allowing people to discover alternatives if they are frustrated. Does that sound worth doing (either by adding it directly to the tracker, or linking out to surveymonkey or something like it?) RjS From nobody Tue Nov 1 14:52:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CC9129A09 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:52:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id usdOy9UFawf3 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38EEF1298C1 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E43E1E55CC for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:51:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1YPr2aQU3soH for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Heathers-MacBook-Pro.local (c-50-135-43-191.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [50.135.43.191]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0FB8C1E55BE for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:51:50 -0700 (PDT) To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <81e8f8af-398d-9328-d32f-bcf92cdd214e@nostrum.com> From: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Message-ID: <15555a16-44af-f268-8388-c516fd200859@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:52:02 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <81e8f8af-398d-9328-d32f-bcf92cdd214e@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Post submit survey? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 21:52:05 -0000 On 11/1/16 2:49 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > Alia had an interesting idea in a conversation the other day that I > wanted to capture before it gets away. > > Her suggestion was to add a survey to the draft submission process - > the survey would ask what tool the submitter used to prepare the > draft, how happy they were with that tool. The survey could end with a > page pointing to the known authoring tools, allowing people to > discover alternatives if they are frustrated. > > Does that sound worth doing (either by adding it directly to the > tracker, or linking out to surveymonkey or something like it?) I like the idea, especially to get feedback on the new format tools, but I'd want to make it optional. An extra check box or something that says "Are you willing to take a short survey to provide feedback on your experience with the draft creation and submission process?" That might send them a link to the survey, and so avoid interrupting their workflow to get the draft submitted. -Heather From nobody Tue Nov 1 16:02:26 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02362129589 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:02:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id flHQweou3mG4 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EB2D1295B8 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.30] (cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uA1N2DRJ047185 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 1 Nov 2016 18:02:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22] claimed to be [10.0.1.30] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Ben Campbell X-Mailer: iPad Mail (14B100) In-Reply-To: <15555a16-44af-f268-8388-c516fd200859@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 18:02:13 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7745AB1E-7405-4933-95D1-75A3FEC58048@nostrum.com> References: <81e8f8af-398d-9328-d32f-bcf92cdd214e@nostrum.com> <15555a16-44af-f268-8388-c516fd200859@rfc-editor.org> To: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Post submit survey? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 23:02:25 -0000 > On Nov 1, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) wrote: >=20 >> On 11/1/16 2:49 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> Alia had an interesting idea in a conversation the other day that I >> wanted to capture before it gets away. >>=20 >> Her suggestion was to add a survey to the draft submission process - >> the survey would ask what tool the submitter used to prepare the >> draft, how happy they were with that tool. The survey could end with a >> page pointing to the known authoring tools, allowing people to >> discover alternatives if they are frustrated. >>=20 >> Does that sound worth doing (either by adding it directly to the >> tracker, or linking out to surveymonkey or something like it?) >=20 > I like the idea, especially to get feedback on the new format tools, but > I'd want to make it optional. An extra check box or something that says > "Are you willing to take a short survey to provide feedback on your > experience with the draft creation and submission process?" That might > send them a link to the survey, and so avoid interrupting their workflow > to get the draft submitted. +1 on liking the idea as long as it is optional, and reasonably unobtrusive.= I can imagine people getting frustrated with "yet one more step" when they a= re trying to submit a batch of drafts just-under-the-wire before the pre-mee= ting embargo starts. Not that people do that :-) >=20 > -Heather >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Wed Nov 2 03:57:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC1A129AE4 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2016 03:56:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oz48XDSDeF9a for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2016 03:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1461129584 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2016 03:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:62622 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1c1tE1-00010P-S8; Wed, 02 Nov 2016 03:56:58 -0700 Message-ID: <5819C667.2070007@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 11:56:39 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Sparks , IETF Tools Development References: <81e8f8af-398d-9328-d32f-bcf92cdd214e@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <81e8f8af-398d-9328-d32f-bcf92cdd214e@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uw6ajVrrJB96wusnO3bbWNxnfb94W07u5" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-development@ietf.org, rjsparks@nostrum.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Post submit survey? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 10:57:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --uw6ajVrrJB96wusnO3bbWNxnfb94W07u5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-11-01 22:49, Robert Sparks wrote: > Alia had an interesting idea in a conversation the other day that I=20 > wanted to capture before it gets away. >=20 > Her suggestion was to add a survey to the draft submission process - th= e=20 > survey would ask what tool the submitter used to prepare the draft, how= =20 > happy they were with that tool. The survey could end with a page=20 > pointing to the known authoring tools, allowing people to discover=20 > alternatives if they are frustrated. >=20 > Does that sound worth doing (either by adding it directly to the=20 > tracker, or linking out to surveymonkey or something like it?) Might be interesting, but should definitely (I think) be through an optional link out to an existing survey tool, rather than adding the survey functionality to the datatracker. Good survey support is not trivial. 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(I don't have a conclusive opinion on it, but agenda upload now is a trivially harder - as have to go fund the group rather than it being offered to you. ) Lou From nobody Wed Nov 2 08:41:14 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3000129699 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2016 08:41:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YgFkBhS_cbUx for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2016 08:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B215129524 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2016 08:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uA2FdIAw060609 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2016 10:39:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <15824ddced0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 10:39:18 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15824ddced0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] New materials manager interface X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 15:41:13 -0000 On 11/2/16 6:47 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Hi, > > Out of curiosity what was the reason and objective for the new upload > interface? There are many, ranging from support for multiple sessions at meetings, normalizing the way the files and Document objects are created, improving the materials page, automatically generating proceedings, and actually _simplifying_ upload. > > (I don't have a conclusive opinion on it, but agenda upload now is a > trivially harder - as have to go fund the group rather than it being > offered to you. ) I expect a few people to work on improving the navigation to the management pages before and during the sprint. One path you might find useful as a workaround in the meantime is to use the links to the WG pages you'll find for your working groups in the left navbar. Once there, click on the Meetings tab. From there select the appropriate session at IETF97. Yes, that's too many clicks, but it saves you from hunting through a list of all the working groups. > > Lou > > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Thu Nov 3 07:01:49 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CA4129A4B for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 07:01:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xJ_YKikkq1KD for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 07:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB6FB129A01 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 07:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D39300ACE for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:01:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 5W2kGj4hfN3N for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D5EB300A2B for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:01:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9272AD3B-6DFC-4063-A6FA-BD75196C6605@vigilsec.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 09:53:56 -0400 To: IETF Tools Development Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 14:01:47 -0000 Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 at 1:00 Eastern 1. Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan - Contracts for Datatracker Enhancements -- Robert -- Review Tracking -- Author Statistics 2. Community & Other Projects - Improvements to the mail archive application -- Robert and Ryan - IETF Website Makeover -- Greg and Joe 3. RFC Services Projects - Contracts for Improvements to RFC Services -- Heather and Robert -- CSS for the RFCs -- RFC Format-related Developments 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org -- Henrik 5. Server Infrastructure - Migrate toward Django 1.8, 1.9, and 1.10 -- Henrik - Database performance analysis -- Henrik 6. IDIQ Contractors - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray 7. Parking Lot - Libraries for HTML of I-Ds -- Henrik - CDN support for HTML and PDF I-Ds -- Henrik - Migrate from MySQL to PostgreSQL -- Henrik - Discontinue MonArch email archives -- Robert - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub - Mailman support for internationalized email addresses 8. AOB From nobody Thu Nov 3 08:05:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AE412962C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:04:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LLqQnO3hFAgc for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C3DA1294CA for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uA3F4tDv035817 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:04:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <9272AD3B-6DFC-4063-A6FA-BD75196C6605@vigilsec.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:04:55 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9272AD3B-6DFC-4063-A6FA-BD75196C6605@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 15:04:59 -0000 Agenda bash: The IESG is talking about the DMARC threads - please give Ben and me 5 minutes on this call to provide an update. On 11/3/16 8:53 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 at 1:00 Eastern > > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan > - Contracts for Datatracker Enhancements -- Robert > -- Review Tracking > -- Author Statistics > > 2. Community & Other Projects > - Improvements to the mail archive application -- Robert and Ryan > - IETF Website Makeover -- Greg and Joe > > 3. RFC Services Projects > - Contracts for Improvements to RFC Services -- Heather and Robert > -- CSS for the RFCs > -- RFC Format-related Developments > > 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools > - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org -- Henrik > > 5. Server Infrastructure > - Migrate toward Django 1.8, 1.9, and 1.10 -- Henrik > - Database performance analysis -- Henrik > > 6. IDIQ Contractors > - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray > > 7. Parking Lot > - Libraries for HTML of I-Ds -- Henrik > - CDN support for HTML and PDF I-Ds -- Henrik > - Migrate from MySQL to PostgreSQL -- Henrik > - Discontinue MonArch email archives -- Robert > - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert > - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert > - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? > - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik > - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert > - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub > - Mailman support for internationalized email addresses > > 8. AOB > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Thu Nov 3 11:44:17 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5015129479 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 11:44:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jvkCI2A7wJNp for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 11:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FDFA129431 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 11:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAA1300AAD for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 14:44:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id fjV3uEJitvny for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 14:44:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ABDC2300429 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 14:44:10 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <9272AD3B-6DFC-4063-A6FA-BD75196C6605@vigilsec.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 14:44:24 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <92439191-553B-4D59-86BA-27F93EFE7707@vigilsec.com> References: <9272AD3B-6DFC-4063-A6FA-BD75196C6605@vigilsec.com> To: IETF Tools Development X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 18:44:16 -0000 Updated item 5 to fill Robert=92s agenda bash =85. Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 at 1:00 Eastern 1. Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan - Contracts for Datatracker Enhancements -- Robert -- Review Tracking -- Author Statistics 2. Community & Other Projects - Improvements to the mail archive application -- Robert and Ryan - IETF Website Makeover -- Greg and Joe 3. RFC Services Projects - Contracts for Improvements to RFC Services -- Heather and Robert -- CSS for the RFCs -- RFC Format-related Developments 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org -- Henrik 5. Server Infrastructure - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Robert and Ben - Migrate toward Django 1.8, 1.9, and 1.10 -- Henrik - Database performance analysis -- Henrik 6. IDIQ Contractors - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray 7. Parking Lot - Libraries for HTML of I-Ds -- Henrik - CDN support for HTML and PDF I-Ds -- Henrik - Migrate from MySQL to PostgreSQL -- Henrik - Discontinue MonArch email archives -- Robert - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub - Mailman support for internationalized email addresses 8. AOB From nobody Thu Nov 3 11:47:12 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3AC1293EB for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 11:47:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nFEKoU9fy0y0 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 11:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8523127735 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 11:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uA3Il85U062926 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 13:47:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: IETF Tools Development References: <9272AD3B-6DFC-4063-A6FA-BD75196C6605@vigilsec.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <00662ad7-dca2-e14f-7f47-bbcd824d6fb9@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 13:47:07 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9272AD3B-6DFC-4063-A6FA-BD75196C6605@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 18:47:11 -0000 A short set of notes as of today - will update right before call if relevant. On 11/3/16 8:53 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 at 1:00 Eastern > > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan > - Contracts for Datatracker Enhancements -- Robert > -- Review Tracking Very close to deployment, but I'm going to delay it until after Seoul so that I can give the directorate secretaries other than Jean and Tero a little time to become familiar with the tool in a test environment. > -- Author Statistics Waiting to start on the Review tracker finishing. I expect work will start on this while we're in Seoul. > > 2. Community & Other Projects > - Improvements to the mail archive application -- Robert and Ryan Ryan will provide an update. > - IETF Website Makeover -- Greg and Joe > > 3. RFC Services Projects > - Contracts for Improvements to RFC Services -- Heather and Robert > -- CSS for the RFCs Had a kickoff meeting mid October. Real work on this is supposed to start this week. > -- RFC Format-related Developments In the bid evaluation phase. > > 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools > - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org -- Henrik > > 5. Server Infrastructure > - Migrate toward Django 1.8, 1.9, and 1.10 -- Henrik > - Database performance analysis -- Henrik > > 6. IDIQ Contractors > - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray > > 7. Parking Lot > - Libraries for HTML of I-Ds -- Henrik > - CDN support for HTML and PDF I-Ds -- Henrik > - Migrate from MySQL to PostgreSQL -- Henrik > - Discontinue MonArch email archives -- Robert > - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert > - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert > - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? > - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik > - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert > - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub > - Mailman support for internationalized email addresses > > 8. AOB > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Thu Nov 3 12:35:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5200F12956A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 12:35:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X7EHN8tBrKQK for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5F88129721 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 12:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:55993 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1c2Nn1-0001c6-K2; Thu, 03 Nov 2016 12:35:08 -0700 Message-ID: <581B9164.8030102@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 20:35:00 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Sparks , IETF Tools Development References: <9272AD3B-6DFC-4063-A6FA-BD75196C6605@vigilsec.com> <00662ad7-dca2-e14f-7f47-bbcd824d6fb9@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <00662ad7-dca2-e14f-7f47-bbcd824d6fb9@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="q0MF7PWrIviMamLkShmBGkpcJF5bViqI0" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-development@ietf.org, rjsparks@nostrum.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 19:35:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --q0MF7PWrIviMamLkShmBGkpcJF5bViqI0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some additional notes: On 2016-11-03 19:47, Robert Sparks wrote: > A short set of notes as of today - will update right before call if=20 > relevant. >=20 >=20 > On 11/3/16 8:53 AM, Russ Housley wrote: >> Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 at 1:00 Eastern >> >> 1. Datatracker Projects >> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan WG Wiki glue released, for the actual move see below under 4 >> - Contracts for Datatracker Enhancements -- Robert >> -- Review Tracking > > Very close to deployment, but I'm going to delay it until after Seoul s= o=20 > that I can give the directorate secretaries other than Jean and Tero a = > little time to become familiar with the tool in a test environment. > >> -- Author Statistics > > Waiting to start on the Review tracker finishing. I expect work will=20 > start on this while we're in Seoul. > >> >> 2. Community & Other Projects >> - Improvements to the mail archive application -- Robert and Ryan > > Ryan will provide an update. > >> - IETF Website Makeover -- Greg and Joe >> >> 3. RFC Services Projects >> - Contracts for Improvements to RFC Services -- Heather and Robert= >> -- CSS for the RFCs > > Had a kickoff meeting mid October. Real work on this is supposed to=20 > start this week. > >> -- RFC Format-related Developments > > In the bid evaluation phase. > >> >> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org -- Henr= ik I'm ready to do the move, either Saturday Nov. 5th or the week after Seou= l. >> >> 5. Server Infrastructure >> - Migrate toward Django 1.8, 1.9, and 1.10 -- Henrik I've started working on this, looking at the backwards incompatible changes in Django 1.8. This doesn't look too onerous (so far; it's early days yet), but there definitely are some incompatible changes that require work. >> - Database performance analysis -- Henrik I think this is a duplicate of the parking lot item about performance improvements? Anyway, this is now in place # 11. in my PLAN file. >> 6. IDIQ Contractors >> - RFP for more IDIQ contractors -- Ray >> >> 7. Parking Lot >> - Libraries for HTML of I-Ds -- Henrik Now item #12 >> - CDN support for HTML and PDF I-Ds -- Henrik Now item #13 >> - Migrate from MySQL to PostgreSQL -- Henrik >> - Discontinue MonArch email archives -- Robert >> - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Rob= ert >> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Rober= t >> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? >> - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik >> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >> - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub >> - Mailman support for internationalized email addresses Waiting for MM 3.1 >> >> 8. AOB >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 --q0MF7PWrIviMamLkShmBGkpcJF5bViqI0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJYG5FkAAoJEE6bV0uPuxca/+cQAKbXASa/TBvzfJLYz7a6PLSQ WWplTdubOaMum0ByU5Yxy4MuJ0q410zhGh4qu6hezTxTTfQGirELpEUJeykOZAoj UjYa1udxR2zUdnd5SesvYxGT+mGgayvb8t72oHSZZsteVRMqnFOxRsEHs8khrKEm LCDC/62EnYbJxfzetOJJ/lTS2CPFwyAVjM2OsE0jX+cmP2ToL2ZDqipeQicIZlPp 5hx84WXzPeBaqazzilNok30DyI/Nsl3XBFUcajjH7lEN2vpJYz5nMr97XL2AXlVU S4rRg8SHpWgbbYCEHzuOQTbBfqgotcMgI4F9k7kZGqMUmO2TE92VQm9BCaRmyiXH +gCNNAgJ9yKdOQO3zry9bv7x5Sa6o6mRidiuKBvSCVtlb57H57RZoAusR/1RdyeU Q8BaLqt6op73VM6n1r8wqfjXmvRD5s7S6WEVMUro/dc4W/2WyxDyn3k/6MzYBykP ia7/VRjsOuIrXpAjJloy1Josjcnksjsnp61MMdyR/H4yt1iC7QorgvtnsXjVpjQN DXk4q5615jgNq+CZ5mypUhco0UT919gJY4rydMfetH0JSsf2lukBZA09MCyHDbrh inIr6vQGtZWCgPqIqjTIstt3fdtNTBWm7kB0w/ZUBC/70Cb/+IcppVFLQNINfjYm a1K6RsF+CjWnIJW8Q1Jt =LgqP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --q0MF7PWrIviMamLkShmBGkpcJF5bViqI0-- From nobody Fri Nov 4 08:20:59 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A486F129573 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 08:20:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id abkjYTckEfqL for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 08:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D444312956C for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 08:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162DB300AA5 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 11:20:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id ynjF3JYu8fu7 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 11:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 01834300A2A; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 11:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_79919D14-CC5C-4C98-908D-78DF64415C12"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <581B9164.8030102@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 11:21:13 -0400 Message-Id: <94C70049-342D-4541-9CD7-841B873CD757@vigilsec.com> References: <9272AD3B-6DFC-4063-A6FA-BD75196C6605@vigilsec.com> <00662ad7-dca2-e14f-7f47-bbcd824d6fb9@nostrum.com> <581B9164.8030102@levkowetz.com> To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016 15:20:58 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_79919D14-CC5C-4C98-908D-78DF64415C12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Henrik: >>> 4. Transition of Mission Critical Tools >>> - Moving issue trackers and wikis for IETF WGs on ietf.org -- = Henrik >=20 > I'm ready to do the move, either Saturday Nov. 5th or the week after = Seoul. Yes. Since the risk is low, we are going forward with it this weekend. >>> 5. Server Infrastructure >>> - Migrate toward Django 1.8, 1.9, and 1.10 -- Henrik >>> - Database performance analysis -- Henrik >=20 > I think this is a duplicate of the parking lot item about performance > improvements? Anyway, this is now in place # 11. in my PLAN file. It has been removed from this section of the agenda. It remains in the = parking lot. Russ --Apple-Mail=_79919D14-CC5C-4C98-908D-78DF64415C12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAlgcp24ACgkQiuTu0PWcEcvAWACguPL3U0MoTTY1Akm4XiugXCvL IxwAoLrJ1Y7OwEKAEE5Tz9HRZvU4aRWd =KtyJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_79919D14-CC5C-4C98-908D-78DF64415C12-- From nobody Fri Nov 4 10:49:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA10129601 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 10:48:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uyaj2I0q7cxK for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 10:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.226]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A7FFA1295F3 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 10:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7615 invoked by uid 0); 4 Nov 2016 17:48:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy10.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2016 17:48:39 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by CMOut01 with id 3toa1u00o2SSUrH01todg0; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 11:48:37 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=beT4Do/B c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=L24OOQBejmoA:10 a=OUXY8nFuAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=wm_388EajU5dYjzbRb8A:9 a=ES0Psq3DlFzl4QVZ:21 a=Eg8xsPChVa68svh1:21 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=cAcMbU7R10T-QSRYIcO_:22 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject; bh=152YNt1MlBD4QAbPvcwCtTEMMMAznkFucqlstmJDTm8=; b=dbWV9mtJjDRgUAHA8igbgVfP8x wpfSnIy0B8xN2D10mgB9J9v/zKC3yBf1kjMRxdto+ExvKYIgI4Iqy4X4lWEhnbnNR8LkvoGjAR/pX EPhQb5reg6bHeyw4pW3f0gXZE; Received: from pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.85.191]:49003 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1c2ibU-0000jb-4K for tools-development@ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 11:48:36 -0600 References: To: IETF Tools Development From: Lou Berger X-Forwarded-Message-Id: Message-ID: <5efb14d2-e2f3-1281-8d1e-043f1f5b9aeb@labn.net> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 13:48:34 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.85.191 X-Exim-ID: 1c2ibU-0000jb-4K X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.85.191]:49003 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: agendas/meeting materials X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016 17:48:45 -0000 fyi more on the new interface (did I miss a response to my message?) -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: agendas/meeting materials Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 13:27:03 -0400 From: John G. Scudder To: WG Chairs Hi Everybody, At earlier meetings, working group agendas had a stable name, and updating my working group's agenda would overwrite the old version. This doesn't seem to be the case any more, my first revision was published as -00 and my current revision is -01. While access to the revision history is nice for transparency, I think it's a significantly bad thing if there is no URL that means "just give me the current agenda". We have this for Internet drafts, if I leave the -XX off, I get whatever the latest revision is. Trying to do the same with my agenda, though, it just doesn't resolve. As far as I can tell, there is no way to publish a URL that takes you straight to the head version of my agenda, only to a particular revision. While I'm asking for things, the behavior for referencing an Internet draft without a version number is not quite the desirable one for agendas and other meeting materials, in my opinion. When I leave the version number off an Internet draft, I get redirected to the latest revision, so if I reload that page, I'm anchored to that revision, even if the draft has subsequently been updated. For agendas, I think it would be desirable for a reload to cause the current revision to be loaded. I'm not sure when the change was made, or why, or if it was announced, but I hope we can fix it. Thanks, --John From nobody Fri Nov 4 11:27:35 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836B6129626 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 11:27:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hWTFbqT-yn1I for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 11:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB2D11295ED for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 11:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uA4IRVUv011698 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 13:27:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <5efb14d2-e2f3-1281-8d1e-043f1f5b9aeb@labn.net> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <45576fa8-5c91-4af4-7689-f888cb9be037@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 13:27:31 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5efb14d2-e2f3-1281-8d1e-043f1f5b9aeb@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: agendas/meeting materials X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016 18:27:34 -0000 I did respond to your earlier question (though I see the reply went 'reply list' not 'reply all'). I follow WG chairs and will respond to John. RjS On 11/4/16 12:48 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > fyi more on the new interface (did I miss a response to my message?) > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: agendas/meeting materials > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 13:27:03 -0400 > From: John G. Scudder > To: WG Chairs > > > > Hi Everybody, > > At earlier meetings, working group agendas had a stable name, and updating my working group's agenda would overwrite the old version. This doesn't seem to be the case any more, my first revision was published as -00 and my current revision is -01. > > While access to the revision history is nice for transparency, I think it's a significantly bad thing if there is no URL that means "just give me the current agenda". We have this for Internet drafts, if I leave the -XX off, I get whatever the latest revision is. Trying to do the same with my agenda, though, it just doesn't resolve. As far as I can tell, there is no way to publish a URL that takes you straight to the head version of my agenda, only to a particular revision. > > While I'm asking for things, the behavior for referencing an Internet draft without a version number is not quite the desirable one for agendas and other meeting materials, in my opinion. When I leave the version number off an Internet draft, I get redirected to the latest revision, so if I reload that page, I'm anchored to that revision, even if the draft has subsequently been updated. For agendas, I think it would be desirable for a reload to cause the current revision to be loaded. > > I'm not sure when the change was made, or why, or if it was announced, but I hope we can fix it. > > Thanks, > > --John > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Fri Nov 4 15:52:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4581299D0 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 15:52:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kp4eN4KpQo1Q for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 15:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.39.168]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 74095129952 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 15:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10030 invoked by uid 0); 4 Nov 2016 22:52:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy6.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2016 22:52:05 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw4 with id 3ys21u00t2SSUrH01ys5az; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 16:52:05 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=fZg+lSgF c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=L24OOQBejmoA:10 a=Z80JlwQ0AAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=VtVOxG0g4MZradVZtGIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Zz-tw7mMPhxMdvFcggwQ:22 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:To:From; bh=OTzRasqUIy2Q8JtlouoEVBTy5K+pNNHrx2r2K0Yzrc4=; b=QlM7EjC9vh13dAFzTMstzcBDSu yUOUtFumjfEthn5ovq0w19tcxNeJk8lwMktyia+LYjNhq9MxXeblU7yQhTuXnfHl6UQeNb+/i18bu F71sadSAd6nBEplsZoJ1uZ+7y; Received: from [172.58.185.65] (port=62594 helo=[192.0.0.4]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1c2nL7-0007st-Vn; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 16:52:02 -0600 From: Lou Berger To: Robert Sparks , Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016 18:51:59 -0400 Message-ID: <158318aa298.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: References: <15824ddced0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> User-Agent: AquaMail/1.6.2.9 (build: 27000209) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 172.58.185.65 X-Exim-ID: 1c2nL7-0007st-Vn X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.0.0.4]) [172.58.185.65]:62594 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 10 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] New materials manager interface X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016 22:52:14 -0000 Thanks robert..I'll just keep using my browser search to find the edit string. Glad to hear about the planned improvements in the sprint. Lou On November 2, 2016 11:41:45 AM Robert Sparks wrote: > > > On 11/2/16 6:47 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Out of curiosity what was the reason and objective for the new upload >> interface? > There are many, ranging from support for multiple sessions at meetings, > normalizing the way the files and Document objects are created, > improving the materials page, automatically generating proceedings, and > actually _simplifying_ upload. >> >> (I don't have a conclusive opinion on it, but agenda upload now is a >> trivially harder - as have to go fund the group rather than it being >> offered to you. ) > I expect a few people to work on improving the navigation to the > management pages before and during the sprint. > One path you might find useful as a workaround in the meantime is to use > the links to the WG pages you'll find for your working groups in the > left navbar. Once there, click on the Meetings tab. From there select > the appropriate session at IETF97. Yes, that's too many clicks, but it > saves you from hunting through a list of all the working groups. > >> >> Lou >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From nobody Mon Nov 7 15:56:44 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99D1129522 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 15:56:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vBZs6B7-e3Nu for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 15:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF92F1296A6 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 15:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601621E55DE; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 15:56:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uHV3j7NLRulF; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 15:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.128.230] (50-248-196-145-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.248.196.145]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1AF991E55DD; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 15:56:06 -0800 (PST) From: Ryan Cross Message-Id: <4F4FC95A-178E-491A-A74F-CC73BEB48F3F@amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_52E0C670-CD8A-4138-984E-881A55BDFCFF" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.1 \(3251\)) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 15:56:41 -0800 In-Reply-To: <92439191-553B-4D59-86BA-27F93EFE7707@vigilsec.com> To: Russ Housley References: <9272AD3B-6DFC-4063-A6FA-BD75196C6605@vigilsec.com> <92439191-553B-4D59-86BA-27F93EFE7707@vigilsec.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3251) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 23:56:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_52E0C670-CD8A-4138-984E-881A55BDFCFF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Current estimates on the the archive improvements releases. > On Nov 3, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > > Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 at 1:00 Eastern > > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan > - Contracts for Datatracker Enhancements -- Robert > -- Review Tracking > -- Author Statistics > > 2. Community & Other Projects > - Improvements to the mail archive application -- Robert and Ryan Release 1 (RFC 7842 section 2.5, 2.6) - deployed Release 2 (RFC 7842 section 2.1) - pending Release 3 (RFC 7842 section 2.2, 2.3) early December Release 4 (RFC 7842 section 2.4, 2.7) mid / late December > - IETF Website Makeover -- Greg and Joe --Apple-Mail=_52E0C670-CD8A-4138-984E-881A55BDFCFF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Current estimates on the the archive improvements = releases.

On Nov 3, 2016, at 11:44 AM, = Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:

Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 at 1:00 = Eastern

1. Datatracker = Projects
  - Expected Datatracker Releases -- = Robert and Henrik
    -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan
  - Contracts for Datatracker = Enhancements -- Robert
    -- Review = Tracking
    -- Author = Statistics

2. Community & = Other Projects
  - Improvements to the mail archive = application -- Robert and Ryan
Release 1 (RFC 7842 section = 2.5, 2.6) - deployed
Release 2 (RFC 7842 section 2.1) - = pending
Release 3 (RFC 7842 section 2.2, 2.3) early = December
Release 4 (RFC 7842 section 2.4, 2.7) mid / late = December

  - IETF Website Makeover -- = Greg and Joe

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([2601:647:4d00:abf0:b045:7e50:6e75:e6ef]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b198sm3572682qkc.42.2016.11.08.07.10.55 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Nov 2016 07:10:55 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F51A1794-F47D-4B57-973F-807CA3CD988E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <4F4FC95A-178E-491A-A74F-CC73BEB48F3F@amsl.com> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 07:10:56 -0800 Message-Id: References: <9272AD3B-6DFC-4063-A6FA-BD75196C6605@vigilsec.com> <92439191-553B-4D59-86BA-27F93EFE7707@vigilsec.com> <4F4FC95A-178E-491A-A74F-CC73BEB48F3F@amsl.com> To: Russ Housley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 15:11:05 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F51A1794-F47D-4B57-973F-807CA3CD988E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Russ, Something came up, I won=E2=80=99t be able to make the call today. See = you in Seoul. Bob > On Nov 7, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Ryan Cross wrote: >=20 > Current estimates on the the archive improvements releases. >=20 >> On Nov 3, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Russ Housley = wrote: >>=20 >> Tools Call Agenda -- 8 Nov 2016 at 1:00 Eastern >>=20 >> 1. Datatracker Projects >> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan >> - Contracts for Datatracker Enhancements -- Robert >> -- Review Tracking >> -- Author Statistics >>=20 >> 2. Community & Other Projects >> - Improvements to the mail archive application -- Robert and Ryan > Release 1 (RFC 7842 section 2.5, 2.6) - deployed > Release 2 (RFC 7842 section 2.1) - pending > Release 3 (RFC 7842 section 2.2, 2.3) early December > Release 4 (RFC 7842 section 2.4, 2.7) mid / late December >=20 >> - IETF Website Makeover -- Greg and Joe >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --Apple-Mail=_F51A1794-F47D-4B57-973F-807CA3CD988E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJYIesAAAoJEK7rdBF357uosoQH/RLcpl7c0zx2YnBbwaIjXBP9 h4ifzPBzlBYEAEmduj7RYnggXRPuDj3eVN8hKtop4KfP2FNLicMz7hOcVewWcxSI ICkF9wG6DQart8tyxYfzgtFtraibDIaK546m6/GQu+AkUd0KY+7t4ajSzBPtk/d+ 4SelXgRwtoRBjh93O/dcQZy0GipVGrH+prC2M5ezdw3ezvKAIynTpABn/7O3ICBN Eb5rx2pxcEMBPDkOrFwOBPKF+gNsOlDfHx66Ou9YMeLiXWePcJ2rzH+VAMINE3u4 V0Q90lvqB3qvghXQYiArynz792igCmPo8h9t+MGgFPm5KxvhoQvVKs4n7JKKjRk= =6aSf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_F51A1794-F47D-4B57-973F-807CA3CD988E-- From nobody Tue Nov 8 12:25:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D97129514 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:25:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wKni4ZBDm2Da for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:24:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 411F01293EE for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:24:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72477300ADA for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 15:24:58 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id kp4HOxUHnH2r for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 15:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AEC50300A3E for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 15:24:57 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 15:24:12 -0500 To: IETF Tools Development Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] December Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:25:00 -0000 The December Tools Call is currently scheduled for December 6th. I will = be attending a conference on the 5th and 6th, so I would lilt to = reschedule the call. Does December 13th at the usual time work for = everyone? Russ From nobody Tue Nov 8 12:32:17 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0055129685 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:32:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u5OGMD7IIVFr for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 583E11298CF for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.21] (cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uA8KW9sk076871 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Nov 2016 14:32:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22] claimed to be [10.0.1.21] From: "Ben Campbell" To: "Russ Housley" Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 14:32:08 -0600 Message-ID: <0DBF8CC7-514B-490A-8EE7-81DDC2F5AEE6@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.5r5263) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] December Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:32:16 -0000 It works for me (likely better than the 6th). On 8 Nov 2016, at 14:24, Russ Housley wrote: > The December Tools Call is currently scheduled for December 6th. I > will be attending a conference on the 5th and 6th, so I would lilt to > reschedule the call. Does December 13th at the usual time work for > everyone? > > Russ > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Tue Nov 8 12:33:25 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA6C1298CF for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:33:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d0qP0gCWDUes for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:33:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10C801295A7 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505E11E55C3 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:32:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R_nfIhylHAt6 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:32:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from Heathers-MacBook-Pro.local (c-50-135-43-191.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [50.135.43.191]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 292C71E55BB for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:32:42 -0800 (PST) To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <0DBF8CC7-514B-490A-8EE7-81DDC2F5AEE6@nostrum.com> From: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:33:21 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0DBF8CC7-514B-490A-8EE7-81DDC2F5AEE6@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] December Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:33:24 -0000 Same same. I'm attending a conference in London the week of the 6th; 13th is definitely a better date. -hf On 11/8/16 12:32 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > It works for me (likely better than the 6th). > > On 8 Nov 2016, at 14:24, Russ Housley wrote: > >> The December Tools Call is currently scheduled for December 6th. I >> will be attending a conference on the 5th and 6th, so I would lilt to >> reschedule the call. Does December 13th at the usual time work for >> everyone? >> >> Russ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From nobody Tue Nov 8 12:42:54 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350B7129436 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:42:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JdsU_x61C3yZ for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-it0-x22c.google.com (mail-it0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A0F0129514 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-it0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id q124so231337131itd.1 for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2016 12:42:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=hEYVbK3zzPl6Wr5lISBbEuBCy3qBxJUFqHoSqJ22CtE=; b=CgsFjpPNJ1rQXwh0vQd8U2l5xX5vEW9Y/nlpSxwIvWE6b6P8J1RtregXNNZe1WpKBD Glg1UJB/onVM7TwuyJ/TuZQQ3Hj31RofBb9+nwPkZAAv7Is4KjBB0D1Agdbte2BXZBbx oFst4ydu3aQPV7aLkOkR/6lBR5mqEIE4pgc5qVjcyhZPRH3wKqNsTyC/gE+W2ndOT8V4 t+zVwjHINezC5zcf7toXzd5CsDIayfPb8fO1SGgWO5Kt8+gmMbLbGAW0tR3iKJMpUuD6 jDad5EJw1FzKtq2LwFfE4xf9R//qJ+AjndYLJrXp2p5BwhPMxC1ME2cxXM6zTTkqpOCZ ChxA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=hEYVbK3zzPl6Wr5lISBbEuBCy3qBxJUFqHoSqJ22CtE=; b=SmQ3iU0EChPvTUXk1L22Ns7InqzKJhPGPgWzNNJmDYB90JHajZ+wbDj6+wJJaZCz/b GY7l4nDAH6XHa+rAggJ+WOSjL1Me3Lj6gKlObZ88UziAHh8UT5xCNcNCm7QfoyWh2jMd tmIcryBlKjQpp1S6piImQFo/Zpt8XYq4Msjm688hucXcJBhj+K0PRK5RaX829MuWqNUc V8mxZUIoNkKl7BLUHLBlvNjb1dXrEujOssARiVr2ZeSO3OgUDqbC5eRQkDWe+TgnNI2D eZkicaHlT6FA0JoQ4V0edPj/Zmf/Xznkkl2Qy5NO6RR5evSxyFnNvwOeIgLXXKWD61Fe IgWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvde1ixoAHgFAMJ7eEfEUAELvL/KWIXHKGA1Nkwtai++BfhyayeEh3lY5QxN2yaRwA== X-Received: by 10.107.17.6 with SMTP id z6mr14086899ioi.1.1478637770635; Tue, 08 Nov 2016 12:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.224.219] ([209.97.127.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i75sm4864250itf.10.2016.11.08.12.42.49 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Nov 2016 12:42:49 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_ED35A242-D1B5-4C6F-A4D0-3C07932CC4D4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:42:49 -0800 Message-Id: References: To: Russ Housley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] December Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:42:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_ED35A242-D1B5-4C6F-A4D0-3C07932CC4D4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The 13th is fine for me. Bob > On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Russ Housley = wrote: >=20 > The December Tools Call is currently scheduled for December 6th. I = will be attending a conference on the 5th and 6th, so I would lilt to = reschedule the call. Does December 13th at the usual time work for = everyone? >=20 > Russ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --Apple-Mail=_ED35A242-D1B5-4C6F-A4D0-3C07932CC4D4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJYIjjJAAoJEK7rdBF357uocLoIALH5hqX4MrTrxro6cBIw7KeN +RIbJG2BHkpOb6zE5nzS/UHjZumyE4EOVky7ViPYi+Hwa72bs7P8rCMSlZUlt6aX h3yI16ayx7Pp4FJSZLpDDxaniCjmAMATE1er4HGBCPgQandLs5URlsesdH7QpnCE Y9xjv+BjK7Oqyg9FHSrPy/4Zc98cRbvLIG+oLxauWUxNwW/oXDkf2uyFGBR+Jg8W e/lzoilYiegpjsZspYVwb6es13waTb0djE1mmObQs+eD+KPyggfjbQm6mBKPNHwL s20weafmHDJngOY3nRHDq+JI9mOPYR0JodFdFvdAiOwkZSInkgpJyB3xMeOO8eg= =fJNx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_ED35A242-D1B5-4C6F-A4D0-3C07932CC4D4-- From nobody Tue Nov 8 12:57:35 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103571299AE for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:57:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T74SSehUOM8r for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:57:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02C15129958 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:57:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:52399 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1c4DSW-0004d9-8o; Tue, 08 Nov 2016 12:57:32 -0800 Message-ID: <58223C33.7020909@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 21:57:23 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" , tools-development@ietf.org References: <0DBF8CC7-514B-490A-8EE7-81DDC2F5AEE6@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="v60Sor6iSMFgVAHaO1bKx9w5Ar8wXuoQE" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-development@ietf.org, rse@rfc-editor.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] December Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:57:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --v60Sor6iSMFgVAHaO1bKx9w5Ar8wXuoQE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, the 13th works for me. Henrik On 2016-11-08 21:33, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) wrote: > Same same. I'm attending a conference in London the week of the 6th; > 13th is definitely a better date. >=20 > -hf > On 11/8/16 12:32 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: >> It works for me (likely better than the 6th). >> >> On 8 Nov 2016, at 14:24, Russ Housley wrote: >> >>> The December Tools Call is currently scheduled for December 6th. I >>> will be attending a conference on the 5th and 6th, so I would lilt to= >>> reschedule the call. Does December 13th at the usual time work for >>> everyone? >>> >>> Russ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 --v60Sor6iSMFgVAHaO1bKx9w5Ar8wXuoQE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJYIjwzAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaiqcQALQ86We0TjKTsmOCCiVR7g33 /iIxUggsjX3uyUGB+jtPScZC0dugw5/Bgy4RrAiIzfBjV98sExqNzdroBWUO+fys V2nxyb6ZQn0zwa43zcVAF3mulYtdO2crn4zzyk6lNuFI6S26GkcQ5Tg9hky4jhZD 822ZJnVR6KTBIPCA3hGI44hOFAWYshcm0iNKN20GwX60xpXBT4Tkj3WoSAYpJYCl KcpiNtJWEFCWwU7jt7GogT+xrAPf5AGtukemaiMSLcn/6Qsc187S9jnTlPS/q3eF 943jcb3/AJrVmpRSX+UCJs+T8SzXdytXq/nE1uitiyuzW7qPYSkgbXnVYIWl4i62 TmM8Y+/XbDH6kUsL1pUdTWT4RCFpg9eCFVworfhRnamctSCAmx3TwviAnHoLS428 aHP5lTOFvWo/ZVNQ7NCG4sdQOxHNgxFfcu1se27s2CtPxKH2hRujy7AJAWeRLxq+ T4Xygtg/4a8DaMfPx0ptoRuaMQkmN/a+IEryG09GyK/LHZh4DQouxrTW4i9Jdbuo hnlPTv/gh/a0B07J2tt/bPVtUeCiusLOcQDjVqLnJPNI2//dgJBW2dhMw1nXcDJo dF5ut3Tn+s16wx+U6UqkWyqD3s5L9u6UedYhroXyMJ9N99FvZCQZ1LmZUB3X+i16 0qhbFgNOMjsJfbkws3lK =4pCm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --v60Sor6iSMFgVAHaO1bKx9w5Ar8wXuoQE-- From nobody Tue Nov 8 13:17:18 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FBC129493 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:17:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v5_JKGippdly for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44217129C1A for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C9D1E55BA; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:16:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4aZNrI9D4aay; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from amss-mbp-2.lan (c-67-171-18-146.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.171.18.146]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3491A1E4BC5; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:16:36 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.1 \(3251\)) From: Ryan Cross In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:17:15 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <44E71834-5DA5-442F-92A0-9BF8B0B30953@amsl.com> References: To: Russ Housley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3251) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] December Tools Call X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 21:17:17 -0000 The 13th is good for me. > On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Russ Housley = wrote: >=20 > The December Tools Call is currently scheduled for December 6th. I = will be attending a conference on the 5th and 6th, so I would lilt to = reschedule the call. Does December 13th at the usual time work for = everyone? >=20 > Russ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Thu Nov 10 11:18:39 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01141295A3 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 11:18:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vHzDN88n5Kdr for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 11:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 90F8312941C for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 11:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17293 invoked by uid 0); 10 Nov 2016 19:18:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2016 19:18:31 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw3 with id 6KJT1u00S2SSUrH01KJWeZ; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 12:18:31 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=WL/sABcR c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=L24OOQBejmoA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=8T2uhpbMjJwSEREy_hcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=kpdlNqETcXAA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To; bh=Q4y0MB3odWdySg0pnYBKGjqjfyEbVC33QNtmXvak3RI=; b=tubJD/qNU26ra9qvt6JpJ0HPD1uftf1ZwPu6EKATGiamMQCIvgf+Ri9So6NRyBPwewdXPq3wXz EC6t3MFGU9Z7YeaNYfrpbW6r2ECBc3K1rK/5gmEn0Fk1q80TW84fU3; Received: from pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.85.191]:45774 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1c4urj-00065p-C3 for tools-development@ietf.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 12:18:27 -0700 To: IETF Tools Development From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 14:18:25 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.85.191 X-Exim-ID: 1c4urj-00065p-C3 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.85.191]:45774 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 5 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] fyi -linkage between data tracker and tools agendas are broken X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 19:18:37 -0000 e.g., https://tools.ietf.org/wg/teas/agenda says IETF-97 teas agenda Sorry, no agenda available as of today. Either no meeting was held, or the document has not yet been submitted. but https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/97/agenda/agenda-97-teas-01 has an html agenda. the same issue is present for detnet which uses a text agenda... From nobody Thu Nov 10 13:54:36 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7C112965A for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 13:54:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6F51AsBzMc7G for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 13:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 864321295CA for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 13:54:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [104.153.224.169] (port=56747 helo=[172.19.248.112]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1c4xIY-0007bJ-5E; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 13:54:32 -0800 Message-ID: <5824EC76.1050706@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 22:53:58 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lou Berger , IETF Tools Development References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SKBIlI7GFdD85I1Kjm4fWK4pkpwKcvWpP" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 104.153.224.169 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-development@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] fyi -linkage between data tracker and tools agendas are broken X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:54:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --SKBIlI7GFdD85I1Kjm4fWK4pkpwKcvWpP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lou, Looking at this now. Henrik On 2016-11-10 20:18, Lou Berger wrote: > e.g., https://tools.ietf.org/wg/teas/agenda says >=20 >=20 > IETF-97 teas agenda >=20 > Sorry, no agenda available as of today. Either no meeting was held, or > the document has not yet been submitted. >=20 >=20 > but https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/97/agenda/agenda-97-teas-01 has an= > html agenda. >=20 > the same issue is present for detnet which uses a text agenda... >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 --SKBIlI7GFdD85I1Kjm4fWK4pkpwKcvWpP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJYJOx3AAoJEE6bV0uPuxcagX0P/i/0OI7+NfmnmR1ePlPAfvld YnUDNyS2lX9wnW8xEEeC25q1hbelU+cO8acFTEwk2HFy7TKrudXvfGUm3E0WYz4v aELQYFZfjFEMJoyZDw8qEP/4eJwIYVkPVxKUab6jL4KSgy2vhp+dbcF+LxnRn7uw jcEPX0KXbN+MzhDdY18RJuwYlFChNWEz36FG8CJWahLANrHBRNhB9KFtXYRlOYQt x+baRZ94ns3vrEXJZ5wD+WUWutDOayeDzu7bWe3j9IZX7Jo4zeNJHIdDUN8jsZ2P 5Lp8APwvvHDb5FybbdILV+xd/F89zsZ22H8/ewIgywXyqwilgVL4geXKOl+Bi6g8 Cw305cp06G17EJgzqT7g/H/j0vV+bI7wZycwC6GhnTAR9Ae6m59HtfiXpv0GPp3X 6iqNel7Q4jDtpVw/B/rdFntdgOdEB+xRs7uvRnjODHhj3OcakmJbhOEy504fzxVM oSRdrTtUrBAzD72sKiqpwORtpi4CAyyHHX9jVzQOqSaNRRNS8TlEOo6H4Iow9JpG GMCcBxTeRnzN0LI5667qfJFVFztN9vF1XEpJLMX15A6WL+8H9AuPv/0AuTBvgtgi zxwrljXcWu0WTM7Xy5Tuok2khwFCwxhocTSURxi0EUaxMAF8dg7NHj2KucOSu93e kikL6yiPEvgOElpjrgbY =J2tk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SKBIlI7GFdD85I1Kjm4fWK4pkpwKcvWpP-- From nobody Thu Nov 10 14:08:33 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81B21293EE for ; 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Thu, 10 Nov 2016 15:07:32 -0700 To: Henrik Levkowetz , IETF Tools Development References: <5824EC76.1050706@levkowetz.com> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <455ab5e4-3cea-80ca-d7c0-607f596a45a9@labn.net> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:07:29 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5824EC76.1050706@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.85.191 X-Exim-ID: 1c4xVM-00055l-7W X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.85.191]:45151 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] fyi -linkage between data tracker and tools agendas are broken X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 22:08:32 -0000 Hi Henrik, Prioritization is your call - it's not critical for me... Lou PS Still getting used to the new materials management front end... On 11/10/2016 4:53 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Lou, > > Looking at this now. > > Henrik > > On 2016-11-10 20:18, Lou Berger wrote: >> e.g., https://tools.ietf.org/wg/teas/agenda says >> >> >> IETF-97 teas agenda >> >> Sorry, no agenda available as of today. Either no meeting was held, or >> the document has not yet been submitted. >> >> >> but https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/97/agenda/agenda-97-teas-01 has an >> html agenda. >> >> the same issue is present for detnet which uses a text agenda... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> From nobody Sat Nov 12 17:22:18 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFD91296BC for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 17:22:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bKR_Zh_whWcr for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 17:22:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.122]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B5E23129695 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 17:22:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29626 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2016 01:22:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2016 01:22:13 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by CMOut01 with id 7DN81u00E2SSUrH01DNBRv; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 18:22:11 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=beT4Do/B c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=L24OOQBejmoA:10 a=038Y0pLFEDr0XB_9FWgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To; bh=fvz+4q0KMP3yVjrcUJj91roh9EMISin9uykYA0AfFBg=; b=sf0DR2p9JmJa+96AL1lkMkT+4O16NmhtZUb8+3BznJDP619vrR5LjBzCf53yA3vQLK5tLmn5bv Osu+pxEuTy1zpXFte8OlpLZIP7miLOojNuJQr5GME2fYt6O8RV0dMf; Received: from pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.85.191]:40490 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1c5jUn-0003L4-MN for tools-development@ietf.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 18:22:09 -0700 To: IETF Tools Development From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <7289f1fe-c0fc-bb73-e5f0-f54c9fb8d05f@labn.net> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 10:22:04 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.85.191 X-Exim-ID: 1c5jUn-0003L4-MN X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.85.191]:40490 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 13 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Question on new materials manager interface X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 01:22:17 -0000 Hi, How do you rename a presentation without uploading? Thanks, Lou From nobody Sat Nov 12 17:32:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61851296EF for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 17:32:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lpBcfRgcp7UT for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 17:32:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BD161296E1 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 17:32:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-856b.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-856b.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.133.107]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uAD1W4FZ077152 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2016 19:32:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <7289f1fe-c0fc-bb73-e5f0-f54c9fb8d05f@labn.net> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <3e8a9ad3-a9a6-1125-8853-e2e956ac3c47@nostrum.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 10:32:04 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7289f1fe-c0fc-bb73-e5f0-f54c9fb8d05f@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Question on new materials manager interface X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 01:32:09 -0000 It is the Title of the slides Document. If you click on the slide document name (the thing in parenthesis on the materials upload page), you'll go to something that starts datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-97-(group)-old-name You can edit the Title from that page. It won't change the filename. RjS On 11/13/16 10:22 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Hi, > > How do you rename a presentation without uploading? > > Thanks, > > Lou > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Sun Nov 13 05:35:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4F0129464 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:35:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9itOwL4dwuTs for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:35:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.38.55]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D095B129488 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:35:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 6910 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2016 13:35:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2016 13:35:23 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by CMOut01 with id 7RbK1u00D2SSUrH01RbNHV; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 06:35:22 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=QtDNgzCd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=L24OOQBejmoA:10 a=3aqj3sJ-pgBPh2SQ-PMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=rKrVYePj7rwA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To; bh=99iyeh+o46VvFEyaePrGEwwcDbKU8fZ2GGtH+lNMoLs=; b=E2QXJKgY2BdrdEfUaylBN1Z6WssJZe0ZPTmf0NLvEUxNNhWXHaCHEA+8n903oya9VMrf6MiiN+ 7sIAAn+5QODvZquxhaAIOKoDT4CMSCYsgPAw8dMeDyCY1Z7n2SA5XZ; Received: from pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.85.191]:46876 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1c5uwK-0003wH-IV for tools-development@ietf.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 06:35:20 -0700 To: IETF Tools Development From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <262d27f5-b7a1-f0c4-f62c-0757e9df91be@labn.net> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 22:35:15 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.85.191 X-Exim-ID: 1c5uwK-0003wH-IV X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.85.191]:46876 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 4 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] http no longer working on ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:35:28 -0000 Is there a reason that http requests are being redirected to https? (e.g., http://www.ietf.org/audio) There are certainly valid use cases for unencrypted traffic - why are we breaking these? Thanks, Lou From nobody Sun Nov 13 05:53:54 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659621294BC for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:53:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8mZaSaRgXN-y for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [70.40.196.235]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A46B4129488 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32468 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2016 13:53:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2016 13:53:47 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id 7Rti1u0042SSUrH01RtltE; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 06:53:45 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=YNIMl32x c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=L24OOQBejmoA:10 a=NwrwzVc4YVJcdAaXYzYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To; bh=cbm/n3sdSJYCI4HPdFkdZd06avW5oQ+ea5dXxLE49/g=; b=VWtONYoRDxEqX/HM23KIhLKP67DltdfA1Ba7zNbLGnjDo5CO/8inkrYyhyS4HSnVynOpO+Rlrb ahWEzO+daZG7BfvrGpaXx8DUzQodU6HsvBSSkRiPaaqsfNziwS2i08; Received: from pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.85.191]:40958 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1c5vE7-0005qL-Aj for tools-development@ietf.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 06:53:43 -0700 To: IETF Tools Development From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <7ed6c3af-5da5-b802-e86b-79fe57daba08@labn.net> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 22:53:37 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.85.191 X-Exim-ID: 1c5vE7-0005qL-Aj X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.85.191]:40958 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 9 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] new material manager workflow complaint X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:53:53 -0000 Hi, The new materials manager doesn't give a consolidated history view like the old tool. A very common workflow (at least in my experience) is to receive last minute updates of slides -- in this case scattered over the last couple of days -- and needing to check if your cochair (or secretary) have uploaded the new slides. This used to be trivial, particularly for multiple slide sets, by simply scrolling to the bottom of the screen. Now you have to click each slide set, then on history. This costs real time if doing it for many slide sets (5 at the moment for tomorrow AM!) Lou From nobody Sun Nov 13 06:27:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEEF1295C7 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 06:27:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id haAVw_UeqMZs for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 06:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.122]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BA50129586 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 06:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 31326 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2016 14:27:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2016 14:27:31 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id 7STS1u0032SSUrH01STVDX; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 07:27:29 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=YNIMl32x c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=L24OOQBejmoA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=f9L3zPN4xKahD2-ds28A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To; bh=A/pcv7MjRPycm+Y3TdjN52W8RVrCWIQWRS++XUuW9UA=; b=B/lM7GQmE9W9+E3hSYXAM4OfTGJUa/WJsoj7BAhatmXniIMYglZltdOiUeXwdXnlaFY54r+lDI cQuQHzhMDFTilXqy4CMxsiezQBK1gWjFcXGkoQ1yjYLoAXMsr4jnYN; Received: from pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.85.191]:49438 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1c5vkl-0001cp-A9 for tools-development@ietf.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 07:27:27 -0700 To: IETF Tools Development From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <57649e57-3e7a-cb65-2dab-26692978f034@labn.net> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 23:27:21 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.85.191 X-Exim-ID: 1c5vkl-0001cp-A9 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.85.191]:49438 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] new materials manager: feature request X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 14:27:39 -0000 *please* please* please Can you add a way to have *downloaded* slides sortable based on order listed (e.g., on https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/97/session/teas)? Why you ask?, so that when a chair downloads the slides there's an easy way to sort them on the local machine -- consider the above link. the chair (me or my co-chiar) downloads 15 decks and then during the session has to figure out each which is next based on the uploaded file name! (Download is needed due to periodic wifi issues.) One solution is to add the order to the slide name, e.g., slides-97--<##>- Thanks, Lou From nobody Sun Nov 13 07:53:49 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D331812951D for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 07:53:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id avMTAB1Ni3QR for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 07:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EBC3129413 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 07:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 324A51E55CC for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 07:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-it0-f43.google.com (mail-it0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 08C621E55BE for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 07:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-it0-f43.google.com with SMTP id q124so55400804itd.1 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 07:53:46 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvf5WZCuZklWFzIzOegoakynU3Yhv90ehs76Ek8TZiDHOllW35dv54J4JF9m24qbIsuAebGPtp73wBwIVQ== X-Received: by 10.107.18.39 with SMTP id a39mr19562542ioj.45.1479052425907; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 07:53:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.119.142 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 07:53:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <262d27f5-b7a1-f0c4-f62c-0757e9df91be@labn.net> References: <262d27f5-b7a1-f0c4-f62c-0757e9df91be@labn.net> From: Glen Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 07:53:25 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: IETF Tools Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] http no longer working on ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: glen@amsl.com List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 15:53:48 -0000 On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Is there a reason that http requests are being redirected to https? > (e.g., http://www.ietf.org/audio) There are certainly valid use cases > for unencrypted traffic - why are we breaking these? Lou - The IETF servers are not doing this, so it appears to be a CloudFlare thing. I've asked our system administrator, Matt Larson, to look into this and find out why this is happening, We'll get back with a report and options as soon as he figures this out. Glen From nobody Sun Nov 13 13:13:19 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CE4129591 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:13:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UAg-2QSFuRgi for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:13:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.25.95]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD80612957D for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:13:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from cmgw4 (cmgw5 [10.0.90.85]) by gproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FF71764F6 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 14:12:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw4 with id 7ZCX1u00V2SSUrH01ZCaU9; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 14:12:34 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Zpp+dbLG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=L24OOQBejmoA:10 a=jGqiy6jZAAAA:8 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=Iwfjk7JjBRf-kOsxQpUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 a=jHrLhlbFqA1ZHZAWynec:22 a=Yz9wTY_ffGCQnEDHKrcv:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:To:From; bh=SBISqgMAcaiF+d9xUtSTAAwOOmelIWhHTrOn1oi6tOs=; b=agEepyuu35ZfvT4TJHsckuTdyp sJbx6nRJv+4joZEQ/Vap6d15h6J2ScqDWTnylWfh3vBdL6bGVVAhipd3LvrC20n+cpwxemIdlOT0O lNo6u6WncxXEUb+JaMoXviKVR; Received: from dhcp-91d8.meeting.ietf.org ([31.133.145.216]:36549) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1c624l-0001hF-0V; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 14:12:31 -0700 From: Lou Berger To: , IETF Tools Development Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 06:12:25 +0900 Message-ID: <1585f88b6a8.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: References: <262d27f5-b7a1-f0c4-f62c-0757e9df91be@labn.net> User-Agent: AquaMail/1.6.2.9 (build: 27000209) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 31.133.145.216 X-Exim-ID: 1c624l-0001hF-0V X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: dhcp-91d8.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.145.216]:36549 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] http no longer working on ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 21:13:17 -0000 Thanks Glenn! Lou On November 14, 2016 12:54:23 AM Glen wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >> Is there a reason that http requests are being redirected to https? >> (e.g., http://www.ietf.org/audio) There are certainly valid use cases >> for unencrypted traffic - why are we breaking these? > > Lou - > > The IETF servers are not doing this, so it appears to be a CloudFlare > thing. I've asked our system administrator, Matt Larson, to look into > this and find out why this is happening, We'll get back with a report > and options as soon as he figures this out. > > Glen > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From nobody Sun Nov 13 13:14:15 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96C1129591 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:14:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wicn79vwHlm0 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3DCD129417 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8AC51E55CC for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-it0-f52.google.com (mail-it0-f52.google.com [209.85.214.52]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 82BF91E55BE for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-it0-f52.google.com with SMTP id q124so74635407itd.1 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:14:12 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvdFxtT/W1gsdYfxo5IJTIxeS1mhDm80up3NpbtwvsBzW+9FUjdFwxLEaNxD1+BFAXEIv40puOeaUbMOOw== X-Received: by 10.36.16.130 with SMTP id 124mr4107687ity.112.1479071652183; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:14:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.119.142 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:13:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <262d27f5-b7a1-f0c4-f62c-0757e9df91be@labn.net> References: <262d27f5-b7a1-f0c4-f62c-0757e9df91be@labn.net> From: Glen Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:13:51 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: IETF Tools Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] http no longer working on ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: glen@amsl.com List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 21:14:14 -0000 On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Is there a reason that http requests are being redirected to https? > (e.g., http://www.ietf.org/audio) There are certainly valid use cases > for unencrypted traffic - why are we breaking these? Hi Lou, everyone - Sorry for the delay in responding. So, I couldn't find an explicit redirect in either our server or Cloudflare... and neither could Matt. But in looking at the config, I am reminded that we have implemented HSTS back last year, at the direction of the IETF. That is the IETF standard referenced in RFC 6797 ( https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6797.txt ) and implemented on all of our servers at ths time. That is why all connections are being redirected. Actually we found some browsers that are less-than-compliant, alas, but the point remains that we are now running HSTS, and that is why HTTP requests are being redirected to HTTPS. I hope this information is helpful! Glen From nobody Sun Nov 13 13:38:51 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86291295F6 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:38:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d3ZSYuN3omGT for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.38.55]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 86840129421 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16337 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2016 21:38:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2016 21:38:44 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by CMOut01 with id 7Zef1u00a2SSUrH01Zei3u; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 14:38:43 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=QtDNgzCd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=L24OOQBejmoA:10 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=BqEg4_3jAAAA:8 a=09f1wQeOqft5hkiToDQA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 a=Yz9wTY_ffGCQnEDHKrcv:22 a=0mFWnFbQd5xWBqmg7tTt:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject; bh=FMiPK6HjGIeKEfNmuliZ4kQp8FN4smZ0L+iDSuk62lo=; b=t4kP+bxJwHc1dIJ/BhmHUiqMr9 W3523QxntP16rVlZy9MaI52eoiCqrArFVAohTYzReftsuj5vN+MsOz8N7m8+41B+V9Ypi+161TvRu NcZi0FEznHwV+E8EQYn8hjlXg; Received: from pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.85.191]:55452 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1c62U5-0004Ug-3y; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 14:38:41 -0700 To: glen@amsl.com, IETF Tools Development References: <262d27f5-b7a1-f0c4-f62c-0757e9df91be@labn.net> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 06:38:35 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.85.191 X-Exim-ID: 1c62U5-0004Ug-3y X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.85.191]:55452 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 6 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] http no longer working on ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 21:38:50 -0000 Thanks Glenn. I bet I heard about this in the IAOC and forgot - Do you know who made the request? Lou On 11/14/2016 6:13 AM, Glen wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >> Is there a reason that http requests are being redirected to https? >> (e.g., http://www.ietf.org/audio) There are certainly valid use cases >> for unencrypted traffic - why are we breaking these? > Hi Lou, everyone - > > Sorry for the delay in responding. > > So, I couldn't find an explicit redirect in either our server or > Cloudflare... and neither could Matt. > > But in looking at the config, I am reminded that we have implemented > HSTS back last year, at the direction of the IETF. That is the IETF > standard referenced in RFC 6797 ( > https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6797.txt ) and implemented on all of > our servers at ths time. > > That is why all connections are being redirected. Actually we found > some browsers that are less-than-compliant, alas, but the point > remains that we are now running HSTS, and that is why HTTP requests > are being redirected to HTTPS. > > I hope this information is helpful! > > Glen > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From nobody Sun Nov 13 13:41:51 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729041294F3 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:41:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RM6Nzfk0F5T2 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C01F1293D6 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A337B1E55BA for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:40:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-it0-f45.google.com (mail-it0-f45.google.com [209.85.214.45]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C11A1E55B9 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:40:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-it0-f45.google.com with SMTP id q124so75601860itd.1 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:41:47 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvc/jWQoCrq4zUvJw4cnVu4DjCq2a/O1f9PbVv4kxYu8llnd53/W3714iWNnNGn6I7ZtyyP7Fw/KlwrCMw== X-Received: by 10.36.228.194 with SMTP id o185mr4093405ith.112.1479073307302; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:41:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.119.142 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:41:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <262d27f5-b7a1-f0c4-f62c-0757e9df91be@labn.net> From: Glen Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:41:27 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: IETF Tools Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] http no longer working on ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: glen@amsl.com List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 21:41:49 -0000 Hi Lou - I do not recall who started the original discussion - but the original discussion itself was about the fact that the IETF's website was getting a very low score on various SSL test sites such as SSL Labs. Enabling HSTS was something required to increase the score, and the Tools Team made the determination to proceed. How that went through the various I*** chains is beyond my vision. Perhaps Russ or Robert could shed light on that for you; alas, I cannot. Hope this helps! Glen On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > Thanks Glenn. I bet I heard about this in the IAOC and forgot - Do you > know who made the request? > > Lou > > On 11/14/2016 6:13 AM, Glen wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >>> Is there a reason that http requests are being redirected to https? >>> (e.g., http://www.ietf.org/audio) There are certainly valid use cases >>> for unencrypted traffic - why are we breaking these? >> Hi Lou, everyone - >> >> Sorry for the delay in responding. >> >> So, I couldn't find an explicit redirect in either our server or >> Cloudflare... and neither could Matt. >> >> But in looking at the config, I am reminded that we have implemented >> HSTS back last year, at the direction of the IETF. That is the IETF >> standard referenced in RFC 6797 ( >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6797.txt ) and implemented on all of >> our servers at ths time. >> >> That is why all connections are being redirected. Actually we found >> some browsers that are less-than-compliant, alas, but the point >> remains that we are now running HSTS, and that is why HTTP requests >> are being redirected to HTTPS. >> >> I hope this information is helpful! >> >> Glen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Tue Nov 15 19:28:31 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C151D129566 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:28:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LvAOpwrMKpIY for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:28:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DC5F1293FC for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:28:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [31.133.138.173] (port=57486) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1c6qtg-0006DG-V9; Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:28:29 -0800 Message-ID: <582BD25A.8010600@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 04:28:26 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lou Berger , IETF Tools Development References: <5824EC76.1050706@levkowetz.com> <455ab5e4-3cea-80ca-d7c0-607f596a45a9@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <455ab5e4-3cea-80ca-d7c0-607f596a45a9@labn.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Xb2Kvv0F56sotr1q0R1X9Mj3oUrcCiw3r" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 31.133.138.173 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-development@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] fyi -linkage between data tracker and tools agendas are broken X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:28:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Xb2Kvv0F56sotr1q0R1X9Mj3oUrcCiw3r Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So the agenda files now have acquired revision numbers, and that broke the scripts which updates these pages. Fixed. Thanks for the alert! Henrik=20 On 2016-11-10 23:07, Lou Berger wrote: > Hi Henrik, >=20 > Prioritization is your call - it's not critical for me... >=20 > Lou >=20 > PS Still getting used to the new materials management front end... >=20 >=20 > On 11/10/2016 4:53 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Hi Lou, >> >> Looking at this now. >> >> Henrik >> >> On 2016-11-10 20:18, Lou Berger wrote: >>> e.g., https://tools.ietf.org/wg/teas/agenda says >>> >>> >>> IETF-97 teas agenda >>> >>> Sorry, no agenda available as of today. Either no meeting was held, o= r >>> the document has not yet been submitted. >>> >>> >>> but https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/97/agenda/agenda-97-teas-01 has = an >>> html agenda. >>> >>> the same issue is present for detnet which uses a text agenda... >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>> >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 --Xb2Kvv0F56sotr1q0R1X9Mj3oUrcCiw3r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJYK9JaAAoJEE6bV0uPuxca67YP/Ajr/CmCrv64KwVKI4b/5Ia8 3xo0X0yC9XLVbRSPRdQRugCJTq+g806yvQiebFqmSuEE/O2LLOCY5zka60la6z5L QewcBgwJwrEs9XWAmarA87KlrJ98vPm6rHApV5GxIdK4k8TpUtjysP/v+UrKtSRI sHZ34X5sckk9xxqDKNaeA3pnhqAmDFhcu4E9NdVTLkJjnqhv2D10UCnmZ14N1Dhy TVDYIIsPwOGoB97E2MrkZKgxmFLv9RnbmBXUf1Ocs2ZaOt9fejev3lNfvbgIYrQH 4zV676SWYeXNJJHc0Gcs3NGIBmUDoS9F5g/L0Rq7HbzmMhtBtACMnQ/ZrWD3SwKo 2Udr2u7dntalO56COvk/wwgA3np2IqptUmi/SLCDoTaZrpZWhztFwY/kcbxoP2VM e/wEORD0iNWC73aRmZfTrXyYLyHgaiNgVDjfsOVKaHHilB+BEOsoVilj/7S3wsOJ k9Qph07vApy3zQdnnHS5u80rM2Np8GDcef6qKL8beKrAq1GR4EZjrOjIGCCPUm/J eL+u7bEjjuqUjcOcZdYPBD2wyUvrnjf2b1F4x6qw2BZRC57Ir+OIf2c4VVfh7eS2 y4bEy2t66YqmREkczyYpb1LgdRVPSPhAKplGLd8Jp39mbZDHhnbV929WuFAcnTwa +kVCpU4eAAk7laboJScf =QlTl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Xb2Kvv0F56sotr1q0R1X9Mj3oUrcCiw3r-- From nobody Tue Nov 15 19:37:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2434612961F for ; 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Tue, 15 Nov 2016 20:37:32 -0700 From: Lou Berger To: Henrik Levkowetz , IETF Tools Development Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:37:27 +0900 Message-ID: <1586b344328.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <582BD25A.8010600@levkowetz.com> References: <5824EC76.1050706@levkowetz.com> <455ab5e4-3cea-80ca-d7c0-607f596a45a9@labn.net> <582BD25A.8010600@levkowetz.com> User-Agent: AquaMail/1.6.2.9 (build: 27000209) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 31.133.137.60 X-Exim-ID: 1c6r2R-0004wd-RF X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: dhcp-893c.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.137.60]:58251 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] fyi -linkage between data tracker and tools agendas are broken X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 03:37:39 -0000 Thank you! On November 16, 2016 12:29:04 PM Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > So the agenda files now have acquired revision numbers, and that broke > the scripts which updates these pages. Fixed. Thanks for the alert! > > > Henrik > > On 2016-11-10 23:07, Lou Berger wrote: >> Hi Henrik, >> >> Prioritization is your call - it's not critical for me... >> >> Lou >> >> PS Still getting used to the new materials management front end... >> >> >> On 11/10/2016 4:53 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>> Hi Lou, >>> >>> Looking at this now. >>> >>> Henrik >>> >>> On 2016-11-10 20:18, Lou Berger wrote: >>>> e.g., https://tools.ietf.org/wg/teas/agenda says >>>> >>>> >>>> IETF-97 teas agenda >>>> >>>> Sorry, no agenda available as of today. Either no meeting was held, or >>>> the document has not yet been submitted. >>>> >>>> >>>> but https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/97/agenda/agenda-97-teas-01 has an >>>> html agenda. >>>> >>>> the same issue is present for detnet which uses a text agenda... >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> > From nobody Mon Nov 28 12:48:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D62D129459 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:48:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yrT_UlWacy8j for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.122]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A6E78129492 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10900 invoked by uid 0); 28 Nov 2016 20:48:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2016 20:48:03 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by CMOut01 with id DYny1u00J2SSUrH01Yo1t3; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:48:01 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=E8Je+8tl c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=L24OOQBejmoA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=E1R-V3ATAAAA:8 a=i0EeH86SAAAA:8 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=ARNkrULPAAAA:20 a=9NGMx_FYxYFJ65ExDk4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=52VCaqs5eeMA:10 a=6kGIvZw6iX1k4Y-7sg4_:22 a=Yz9wTY_ffGCQnEDHKrcv:22 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 a=BQiZhFUHZ1rCP-FNh-iw:22 a=02toJ7V-nxh73JlV0Smw:22 a=nJcEw6yWrPvoIXZ49MH8:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:To:From; bh=vnOCbU1GBrb+kYWhI2bJm378i/5nSJz5tdsDAX3Y1cc=; b=XUwCZkalBuo/SXwieOgblGb9bm qMjqGboxetlLsjhoWJAw2Jt7LKm/opVSSvR+qVBWeXZt4JGepaMiEt2HKpjfty2sT5R4mtZ5KlCnX hSnmwOJ3YIelpEwLV30IUHpGs; Received: from [172.58.184.194] (port=53146 helo=[192.0.0.4]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1cBSqF-0004QM-NK; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:47:59 -0700 From: Lou Berger To: IETF Tools Development , IETF Secretariat Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:47:58 -0500 Message-ID: <158acb1b830.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <2A0FBB19-60BA-47E7-8F0C-34A38CD986AC@gmail.com> References: <29b0d4a6-2c07-3b32-3936-c3f414b53e4e@labn.net> <2A0FBB19-60BA-47E7-8F0C-34A38CD986AC@gmail.com> User-Agent: AquaMail/1.6.2.9 (build: 27000209) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 172.58.184.194 X-Exim-ID: 1cBSqF-0004QM-NK X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.0.0.4]) [172.58.184.194]:53146 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 13 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 20:48:07 -0000 FYI - not sure if this falls under Tools or Secretariat... --- Forwarded message --- From: Bob Hinden Date: November 28, 2016 3:21:14 PM Subject: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? To: Lou Berger CC: 97attendees@ietf.org, IETF Secretariat , ietf-team@meetecho.com, Bob Hinden , linda.dunbar@huawei.com, morrowc@google.com, Meetecho IETF support Lou, It would be good to have a link pointing to the youtube video’s organized like the Meetecho one: http://ietf97.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recordings Getting along list of youtube video’s isn’t very easy to navigate. Having these on the ietf.org site as part of the proceedings is important. Only having them on Meetecho or youtube means they could be lost. Further, have videos in a directory called https://www.ietf.org/audio/ is not very user friendly. This all needs some work. Thanks, Bob > On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > > youtube video can be found at https://www.youtube.com/user/ietf/videos > > The meetecho video is supposed to be archived at > https://www.ietf.org/audio/ but is missing for the past 2 meetings. > I've opened a ticket on these. > > Lou > > PS (I'm sure there's a link somewhere on the IETF page to the links > listed above, but I don't know where.) > > On 11/27/2016 2:54 PM, Meetecho IETF support wrote: >> All, >> >> the official recordings of all IETF meeting sessions are available on >> the IETF YouTube channel. >> >> The web-based player available at the link reported in the email below >> is an additional resource offered by us on a best effort basis. >> Unfortunately our IT infrastructure is currently down for maintenance. >> It should be back in a few hours. >> >> We apologise for the inconvenience. >> >> Best regards, >> the Meetecho team >> >> Da: "97attendees" 97attendees-bounces@ietf.org >> A: "Chris Morrow" morrowc@google.com >> Cc: "97attendees@ietf.org" 97attendees@ietf.org, >> ietf-team@meetecho.com,"Bob Hinden" bob.hinden@gmail.com,"Linda >> Dunbar" linda.dunbar@huawei.com >> Data: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:29:19 -0800 >> Oggetto: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for >> the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? >> >> Not working for me either. >> >> Bob >> >>> On Nov 27, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Chris Morrow wrote: >>> >>> replying to myself... (and adding the meetecho folk) >>> >>> From this: >>> http://ietf97.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recordings >>> >>> all of the recording links go to something like: >>> >> http://recs.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/watch.jsp?recording=IETF97_6MAN&chapter=chapter_1 >>> >>> The host there is offline (not pingable, not http-able ... why http >> and not https? also v4 only, Y U no V6?) >>> >>> clearly some local ops problem ... (reachability I mean, the other >> httpS && ipv6 are other choices) >>> >>> -chris >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Chris Morrow >> wrote: >>> which link isn't working? (or which session) >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Linda Dunbar >> wrote: >>> Does anyone have luck watching the IETF97 recording? I can’t make it >> work on Google Chrome nor Microsoft Internet Explorer. >>> >>> >>> >>> Any advice is appreciated. >>> >>> Linda >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 97attendees mailing list >>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 97attendees mailing list >>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 97attendees mailing list >> 97attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 97attendees mailing list >> 97attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees > ---------- _______________________________________________ 97attendees mailing list 97attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees From nobody Mon Nov 28 15:09:09 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F41212A121 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:09:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pDE9VxAtp4EG for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:09:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00D2F12A0C2 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:08:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC6F300AF5 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 17:58:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id O2ABV_pomG06 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 17:57:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 870EC300687; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 17:57:58 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <158acb1b830.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 18:08:16 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <280A95F6-580E-4A6C-B099-E81BC5718CD1@vigilsec.com> References: <29b0d4a6-2c07-3b32-3936-c3f414b53e4e@labn.net> <2A0FBB19-60BA-47E7-8F0C-34A38CD986AC@gmail.com> <158acb1b830.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> To: Lou Berger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Secretariat , IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 23:09:07 -0000 My understanding is that the youtube links become part of the = proceedings. Russ On Nov 28, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > FYI - not sure if this falls under Tools or Secretariat... >=20 >=20 > --- Forwarded message --- > From: Bob Hinden > Date: November 28, 2016 3:21:14 PM > Subject: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for = the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? > To: Lou Berger > CC: 97attendees@ietf.org, IETF Secretariat = , ietf-team@meetecho.com, Bob Hinden = , linda.dunbar@huawei.com, morrowc@google.com, = Meetecho IETF support >=20 > Lou, >=20 > It would be good to have a link pointing to the youtube video=92s = organized like the Meetecho one: >=20 > http://ietf97.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recordings >=20 > Getting along list of youtube video=92s isn=92t very easy to navigate. >=20 > Having these on the ietf.org site as part of the proceedings is = important. Only having them on Meetecho or youtube means they could be = lost. >=20 > Further, have videos in a directory called https://www.ietf.org/audio/ = is not very user friendly. >=20 > This all needs some work. >=20 > Thanks, > Bob >=20 >> On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >>=20 >> youtube video can be found at = https://www.youtube.com/user/ietf/videos >>=20 >> The meetecho video is supposed to be archived at >> https://www.ietf.org/audio/ but is missing for the past 2 meetings. >> I've opened a ticket on these. >>=20 >> Lou >>=20 >> PS (I'm sure there's a link somewhere on the IETF page to the links >> listed above, but I don't know where.) >>=20 >> On 11/27/2016 2:54 PM, Meetecho IETF support wrote: >>> All, >>>=20 >>> the official recordings of all IETF meeting sessions are available = on >>> the IETF YouTube channel. >>>=20 >>> The web-based player available at the link reported in the email = below >>> is an additional resource offered by us on a best effort basis. >>> Unfortunately our IT infrastructure is currently down for = maintenance. >>> It should be back in a few hours. >>>=20 >>> We apologise for the inconvenience. >>>=20 >>> Best regards, >>> the Meetecho team >>>=20 >>> Da: "97attendees" 97attendees-bounces@ietf.org >>> A: "Chris Morrow" morrowc@google.com >>> Cc: "97attendees@ietf.org" 97attendees@ietf.org, >>> ietf-team@meetecho.com,"Bob Hinden" bob.hinden@gmail.com,"Linda >>> Dunbar" linda.dunbar@huawei.com >>> Data: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:29:19 -0800 >>> Oggetto: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for >>> the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? >>>=20 >>> Not working for me either. >>>=20 >>> Bob >>>=20 >>>> On Nov 27, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Chris Morrow = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> replying to myself... (and adding the meetecho folk) >>>>=20 >>>> =46rom this: >>>> http://ietf97.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recordings >>>>=20 >>>> all of the recording links go to something like: >>>>=20 >>> = http://recs.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/watch.jsp?recording=3DIETF97_6MAN&ch= apter=3Dchapter_1 >>>>=20 >>>> The host there is offline (not pingable, not http-able ... why http >>> and not https? also v4 only, Y U no V6?) >>>>=20 >>>> clearly some local ops problem ... (reachability I mean, the other >>> httpS && ipv6 are other choices) >>>>=20 >>>> -chris >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Chris Morrow >>> wrote: >>>> which link isn't working? (or which session) >>>>=20 >>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Linda Dunbar >>> wrote: >>>> Does anyone have luck watching the IETF97 recording? I can=92t make = it >>> work on Google Chrome nor Microsoft Internet Explorer. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Any advice is appreciated. >>>>=20 >>>> Linda >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 97attendees mailing list >>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 97attendees mailing list >>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ---------- > _______________________________________________ > 97attendees mailing list > 97attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Mon Nov 28 15:14:19 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC5D12A0D4; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:14:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P2UUDAyMbypp; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B558F12A0B0; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uASNDSXJ031603 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Mon, 28 Nov 2016 17:13:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: Russ Housley , Lou Berger References: <29b0d4a6-2c07-3b32-3936-c3f414b53e4e@labn.net> <2A0FBB19-60BA-47E7-8F0C-34A38CD986AC@gmail.com> <158acb1b830.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <280A95F6-580E-4A6C-B099-E81BC5718CD1@vigilsec.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 17:13:28 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <280A95F6-580E-4A6C-B099-E81BC5718CD1@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: IETF Secretariat , IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 23:14:17 -0000 They should have already - look at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/96/proceedings for example from a past meeting. They _should_ have been showing up automatically as they were uploaded. We've found the place where that got broken, and it should be fixed in the next couple of days. RjS On 11/28/16 5:08 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > My understanding is that the youtube links become part of the proceedings. > > Russ > > > On Nov 28, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > >> FYI - not sure if this falls under Tools or Secretariat... >> >> >> --- Forwarded message --- >> From: Bob Hinden >> Date: November 28, 2016 3:21:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? >> To: Lou Berger >> CC: 97attendees@ietf.org, IETF Secretariat , ietf-team@meetecho.com, Bob Hinden , linda.dunbar@huawei.com, morrowc@google.com, Meetecho IETF support >> >> Lou, >> >> It would be good to have a link pointing to the youtube videos organized like the Meetecho one: >> >> http://ietf97.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recordings >> >> Getting along list of youtube videos isnt very easy to navigate. >> >> Having these on the ietf.org site as part of the proceedings is important. Only having them on Meetecho or youtube means they could be lost. >> >> Further, have videos in a directory called https://www.ietf.org/audio/ is not very user friendly. >> >> This all needs some work. >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> >>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >>> >>> youtube video can be found at https://www.youtube.com/user/ietf/videos >>> >>> The meetecho video is supposed to be archived at >>> https://www.ietf.org/audio/ but is missing for the past 2 meetings. >>> I've opened a ticket on these. >>> >>> Lou >>> >>> PS (I'm sure there's a link somewhere on the IETF page to the links >>> listed above, but I don't know where.) >>> >>> On 11/27/2016 2:54 PM, Meetecho IETF support wrote: >>>> All, >>>> >>>> the official recordings of all IETF meeting sessions are available on >>>> the IETF YouTube channel. >>>> >>>> The web-based player available at the link reported in the email below >>>> is an additional resource offered by us on a best effort basis. >>>> Unfortunately our IT infrastructure is currently down for maintenance. >>>> It should be back in a few hours. >>>> >>>> We apologise for the inconvenience. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> the Meetecho team >>>> >>>> Da: "97attendees" 97attendees-bounces@ietf.org >>>> A: "Chris Morrow" morrowc@google.com >>>> Cc: "97attendees@ietf.org" 97attendees@ietf.org, >>>> ietf-team@meetecho.com,"Bob Hinden" bob.hinden@gmail.com,"Linda >>>> Dunbar" linda.dunbar@huawei.com >>>> Data: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:29:19 -0800 >>>> Oggetto: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for >>>> the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? >>>> >>>> Not working for me either. >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>>> On Nov 27, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Chris Morrow wrote: >>>>> >>>>> replying to myself... (and adding the meetecho folk) >>>>> >>>>> From this: >>>>> http://ietf97.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recordings >>>>> >>>>> all of the recording links go to something like: >>>>> >>>> http://recs.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/watch.jsp?recording=IETF97_6MAN&chapter=chapter_1 >>>>> The host there is offline (not pingable, not http-able ... why http >>>> and not https? also v4 only, Y U no V6?) >>>>> clearly some local ops problem ... (reachability I mean, the other >>>> httpS && ipv6 are other choices) >>>>> -chris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Chris Morrow >>>> wrote: >>>>> which link isn't working? (or which session) >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Linda Dunbar >>>> wrote: >>>>> Does anyone have luck watching the IETF97 recording? I cant make it >>>> work on Google Chrome nor Microsoft Internet Explorer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any advice is appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Linda >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >> >> >> >> ---------- >> _______________________________________________ >> 97attendees mailing list >> 97attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Mon Nov 28 15:55:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EC412A168 for ; 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X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 23:55:41 -0000 On 11/28/2016 6:13 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > They should have already - look at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/96/proceedings for example from a > past meeting. > > They _should_ have been showing up automatically as they were uploaded. > We've found the place where that got broken, and it should be fixed in > the next couple of days. Great! Do you want to send a response to Bob's mail? Lou > > RjS > > > > On 11/28/16 5:08 PM, Russ Housley wrote: >> My understanding is that the youtube links become part of the proceedings. >> >> Russ >> >> >> On Nov 28, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >> >>> FYI - not sure if this falls under Tools or Secretariat... >>> >>> >>> --- Forwarded message --- >>> From: Bob Hinden >>> Date: November 28, 2016 3:21:14 PM >>> Subject: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? >>> To: Lou Berger >>> CC: 97attendees@ietf.org, IETF Secretariat , ietf-team@meetecho.com, Bob Hinden , linda.dunbar@huawei.com, morrowc@google.com, Meetecho IETF support >>> >>> Lou, >>> >>> It would be good to have a link pointing to the youtube videos organized like the Meetecho one: >>> >>> http://ietf97.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recordings >>> >>> Getting along list of youtube videos isnt very easy to navigate. >>> >>> Having these on the ietf.org site as part of the proceedings is important. Only having them on Meetecho or youtube means they could be lost. >>> >>> Further, have videos in a directory called https://www.ietf.org/audio/ is not very user friendly. >>> >>> This all needs some work. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bob >>> >>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >>>> >>>> youtube video can be found at https://www.youtube.com/user/ietf/videos >>>> >>>> The meetecho video is supposed to be archived at >>>> https://www.ietf.org/audio/ but is missing for the past 2 meetings. >>>> I've opened a ticket on these. >>>> >>>> Lou >>>> >>>> PS (I'm sure there's a link somewhere on the IETF page to the links >>>> listed above, but I don't know where.) >>>> >>>> On 11/27/2016 2:54 PM, Meetecho IETF support wrote: >>>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> the official recordings of all IETF meeting sessions are available on >>>>> the IETF YouTube channel. >>>>> >>>>> The web-based player available at the link reported in the email below >>>>> is an additional resource offered by us on a best effort basis. >>>>> Unfortunately our IT infrastructure is currently down for maintenance. >>>>> It should be back in a few hours. >>>>> >>>>> We apologise for the inconvenience. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> the Meetecho team >>>>> >>>>> Da: "97attendees" 97attendees-bounces@ietf.org >>>>> A: "Chris Morrow" morrowc@google.com >>>>> Cc: "97attendees@ietf.org" 97attendees@ietf.org, >>>>> ietf-team@meetecho.com,"Bob Hinden" bob.hinden@gmail.com,"Linda >>>>> Dunbar" linda.dunbar@huawei.com >>>>> Data: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:29:19 -0800 >>>>> Oggetto: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for >>>>> the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? >>>>> >>>>> Not working for me either. >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 27, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Chris Morrow wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> replying to myself... (and adding the meetecho folk) >>>>>> >>>>>> From this: >>>>>> http://ietf97.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recordings >>>>>> >>>>>> all of the recording links go to something like: >>>>>> >>>>> http://recs.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/watch.jsp?recording=IETF97_6MAN&chapter=chapter_1 >>>>>> The host there is offline (not pingable, not http-able ... why http >>>>> and not https? also v4 only, Y U no V6?) >>>>>> clearly some local ops problem ... (reachability I mean, the other >>>>> httpS && ipv6 are other choices) >>>>>> -chris >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Chris Morrow >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> which link isn't working? (or which session) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Linda Dunbar >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Does anyone have luck watching the IETF97 recording? I cant make it >>>>> work on Google Chrome nor Microsoft Internet Explorer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any advice is appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Linda >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>> >>> >>> ---------- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 97attendees mailing list >>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From nobody Tue Nov 29 07:46:22 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5321293FF for ; 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X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 15:46:21 -0000 Fyi --- Forwarded message --- From: Mikael Abrahamsson Date: November 29, 2016 3:18:02 AM Subject: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? To: Lou Berger CC: Meetecho IETF support , IETF Secretariat , 97attendees@ietf.org, ietf-team@meetecho.com On Mon, 28 Nov 2016, Lou Berger wrote: > youtube video can be found at https://www.youtube.com/user/ietf/videos For me the Youtube video is a sub-par version to the native HTML5 Meetecho recording. I'm surprised Meetecho says these are offered on a "best effort" service. I would really like IETF to have these saved permanently and make sure they're available going forward, as they gather multiple video and text feeds into single experience that is superiour to the Youtube one. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se From nobody Tue Nov 29 08:53:51 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1621293FD; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:53:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4vtR29aeYNSD; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x244.google.com (mail-wm0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 057C1129604; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wm0-x244.google.com with SMTP id a20so25385819wme.2; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:53:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=Q0d4JWoEQLU0Darmj15Zh7jngyjp9XF9fsW8EhdUOuU=; b=iwDe3qm0py80tNruptrDdDRoLTTv2gQ0YPvMsQw2H1+xJo8Z0rhY4f4gA1Wf0wvtaF 1O6OnHTTiYhsGQYDf9dPFd6R8DEwGqsUeYVe4kmNFcdhRMu8QNd7j2cvlVE4WviCw9eA UAzre8JpKKSOjqSL/XonUORVkN+EyvkmZhhjPNiHhX/RwKbUrFXlbg/gHQF0gC247ejn DKLK3IqxMWUAvIPfiVrQXe3BusIB8dDJkY8T4wNVm644FTpNip/oWl4L0fB0Wj8QnDY+ nF8YUOR9eG8GIu2HJ9dH8A0hzz6dw1S2HkczmiPtIX0JN9cNOheypR2xBCdkqw9+kvGB WwIw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=Q0d4JWoEQLU0Darmj15Zh7jngyjp9XF9fsW8EhdUOuU=; b=i4QrMdZ/0AlrAS5FM0ANcL3BYeUMXYGX53xy6IsCM/qHJN8qSoBczQkPI9k5HvYO1D EMcoGDWjr5CzOo/yYXOAzlGo7zqEkL6cEDpln4rkwFmMrRxeylA/AG1Zr1wFFNtgLLCx CVtxyTLT+O2zZ3QUlmrafG6ANbKuTdrN06//xjOdONbioKZXjUTzsLMTn1fD+LpzqfHz 3w9839R02inJ8aEbXnSK3O+hC3oc+GL7GWDczncVfmmx8QuBopJytctPGMFMEBEN1yP2 dGfOyxiH3+ePCcE4/2WLvKBCNxv1qFdoU1pOA0Di/ajLogmucMVbqSBxcfDcW/8O5Xlx aDsQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC00WHa/IBykqo4qAqWvdAmf86nVjX8b+2Ivr9+sOaHy3IrAnNI7CCGOLvtnq+VvzFA== X-Received: by 10.28.187.67 with SMTP id l64mr23873948wmf.114.1480438426555; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.23] (c-71-202-18-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [71.202.18.198]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id jm6sm68729533wjb.27.2016.11.29.08.53.44 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:53:45 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0A64CD22-3B96-446A-8F2E-9089D68B48DC"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:53:44 -0800 Message-Id: References: <29b0d4a6-2c07-3b32-3936-c3f414b53e4e@labn.net> <2A0FBB19-60BA-47E7-8F0C-34A38CD986AC@gmail.com> <158acb1b830.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <280A95F6-580E-4A6C-B099-E81BC5718CD1@vigilsec.com> To: Lou Berger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Secretariat , IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 16:53:50 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_0A64CD22-3B96-446A-8F2E-9089D68B48DC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Lou, > On Nov 28, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 11/28/2016 6:13 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> They should have already - look at >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/96/proceedings for example from = a >> past meeting. >>=20 >> They _should_ have been showing up automatically as they were = uploaded. >> We've found the place where that got broken, and it should be fixed = in >> the next couple of days. > Great! Do you want to send a response to Bob's mail? I am on the tools list :-) Bob > Lou >=20 >>=20 >> RjS >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 11/28/16 5:08 PM, Russ Housley wrote: >>> My understanding is that the youtube links become part of the = proceedings. >>>=20 >>> Russ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>>=20 >>>> FYI - not sure if this falls under Tools or Secretariat... >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --- Forwarded message --- >>>> From: Bob Hinden >>>> Date: November 28, 2016 3:21:14 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho = for the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? >>>> To: Lou Berger >>>> CC: 97attendees@ietf.org, IETF Secretariat = , ietf-team@meetecho.com, Bob Hinden = , linda.dunbar@huawei.com, morrowc@google.com, = Meetecho IETF support >>>>=20 >>>> Lou, >>>>=20 >>>> It would be good to have a link pointing to the youtube video=92s = organized like the Meetecho one: >>>>=20 >>>> http://ietf97.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recordings >>>>=20 >>>> Getting along list of youtube video=92s isn=92t very easy to = navigate. >>>>=20 >>>> Having these on the ietf.org site as part of the proceedings is = important. Only having them on Meetecho or youtube means they could be = lost. >>>>=20 >>>> Further, have videos in a directory called = https://www.ietf.org/audio/ is not very user friendly. >>>>=20 >>>> This all needs some work. >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bob >>>>=20 >>>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Lou Berger wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> youtube video can be found at = https://www.youtube.com/user/ietf/videos >>>>>=20 >>>>> The meetecho video is supposed to be archived at >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/audio/ but is missing for the past 2 = meetings. >>>>> I've opened a ticket on these. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Lou >>>>>=20 >>>>> PS (I'm sure there's a link somewhere on the IETF page to the = links >>>>> listed above, but I don't know where.) >>>>>=20 >>>>> On 11/27/2016 2:54 PM, Meetecho IETF support wrote: >>>>>> All, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> the official recordings of all IETF meeting sessions are = available on >>>>>> the IETF YouTube channel. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> The web-based player available at the link reported in the email = below >>>>>> is an additional resource offered by us on a best effort basis. >>>>>> Unfortunately our IT infrastructure is currently down for = maintenance. >>>>>> It should be back in a few hours. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> We apologise for the inconvenience. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> the Meetecho team >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Da: "97attendees" 97attendees-bounces@ietf.org >>>>>> A: "Chris Morrow" morrowc@google.com >>>>>> Cc: "97attendees@ietf.org" 97attendees@ietf.org, >>>>>> ietf-team@meetecho.com,"Bob Hinden" bob.hinden@gmail.com,"Linda >>>>>> Dunbar" linda.dunbar@huawei.com >>>>>> Data: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:29:19 -0800 >>>>>> Oggetto: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho = for >>>>>> the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Not working for me either. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Bob >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Nov 27, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Chris Morrow = wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> replying to myself... (and adding the meetecho folk) >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> =46rom this: >>>>>>> http://ietf97.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recordings >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> all of the recording links go to something like: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>> = http://recs.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/watch.jsp?recording=3DIETF97_6MAN&ch= apter=3Dchapter_1 >>>>>>> The host there is offline (not pingable, not http-able ... why = http >>>>>> and not https? also v4 only, Y U no V6?) >>>>>>> clearly some local ops problem ... (reachability I mean, the = other >>>>>> httpS && ipv6 are other choices) >>>>>>> -chris >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Chris Morrow = >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> which link isn't working? (or which session) >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Linda Dunbar >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Does anyone have luck watching the IETF97 recording? I can=92t = make it >>>>>> work on Google Chrome nor Microsoft Internet Explorer. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Any advice is appreciated. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Linda >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>>>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>>>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> ---------- >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 97attendees mailing list >>>> 97attendees@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/97attendees >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --Apple-Mail=_0A64CD22-3B96-446A-8F2E-9089D68B48DC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJYPbKYAAoJEK7rdBF357uocdgH/2zRElqCCIM/LTnh6a4JkYPJ 7/rOQC3wvi5ZyJiGngBsFktJXAsPLcX5ottY6cLVKAKfPAZxnsIbbSUhNB6pQbU5 y9QnmGrC6TJoNCsVWxnKnUEAGwpq3c/qSr1duydKikkat/PBQmzCDNIPiPAuWMjm CoN9OfsD01rgwC0KBGDYbKH3pj6OgaAMcgTQaB0Tdwb+Vv8pLt+hN9datIxvzrIL nhwHAEf6cE62cA53Dy8vBxBsa8KXybXG7c65Ai5YZosNFpxupk1kOoLof5d/Ej0B 8G2LYAoLMYP0H8MryMi5VQBll+ivLCm7WzqJ6XVc1MrkfEUaHP7poeHRWaArgAo= =wvHy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_0A64CD22-3B96-446A-8F2E-9089D68B48DC-- From nobody Tue Nov 29 09:09:57 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD5C129C14 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:09:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pu5XvusqPMpA for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:09:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF39B1295FC for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:09:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CC31E5655 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:07:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FFAJ8WSBO0WM for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from Heathers-MacBook-Pro.local (c-50-159-75-65.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [50.159.75.65]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D8721E5653 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:07:49 -0800 (PST) To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <29b0d4a6-2c07-3b32-3936-c3f414b53e4e@labn.net> <158b0c3aa78.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> From: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Message-ID: <3fa3a83c-bf4a-795b-7a56-d6c920714c58@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:09:49 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <158b0c3aa78.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:09:56 -0000 Out of curiosity, and not implying any criticism, is the tools list the right place for these kinds of issues, or should they go through the secretariat so they have a formal trouble ticket attached? -Heather On 11/29/16 7:46 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Fyi > > > --- Forwarded message --- > From: Mikael Abrahamsson > Date: November 29, 2016 3:18:02 AM > Subject: Re: [97attendees] I can't watch the video from Meetecho for > the IETF97 sessions. anyone has luck watching the sessions ? > To: Lou Berger > CC: Meetecho IETF support , IETF Secretariat > , 97attendees@ietf.org, ietf-team@meetecho.com > > On Mon, 28 Nov 2016, Lou Berger wrote: > >> youtube video can be found at https://www.youtube.com/user/ietf/videos > > For me the Youtube video is a sub-par version to the native HTML5 > Meetecho > recording. > > I'm surprised Meetecho says these are offered on a "best effort" service. > I would really like IETF to have these saved permanently and make sure > they're available going forward, as they gather multiple video and text > feeds into single experience that is superiour to the Youtube one. > From nobody Wed Nov 30 16:33:53 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D874A129BC8 for ; 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Received: from [172.56.2.249] (port=37630 helo=[192.0.0.4]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1cCFJa-0005iU-OY for tools-development@ietf.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 17:33:30 -0700 From: Lou Berger To: IETF Tools Development Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:33:26 -0500 Message-ID: <158b7ccdbf0.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5B59D597-DA3F-48C3-AED2-208210AF1DF9@amsl.com> References: <5B59D597-DA3F-48C3-AED2-208210AF1DF9@amsl.com> User-Agent: AquaMail/1.6.2.9 (build: 27000209) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 172.56.2.249 X-Exim-ID: 1cCFJa-0005iU-OY X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.0.0.4]) [172.56.2.249]:37630 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 5 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Re: datatracker and mailarchive showing mail previews from issue tracker?? X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 00:33:51 -0000 Seems like a more disciplined changing of filenames/url could be used to address this recent spat of caching / cdn issues... Lou --- Forwarded message --- From: Ryan Cross Date: November 30, 2016 7:11:42 PM Subject: Re: datatracker and mailarchive showing mail previews from issue tracker?? To: jouni.nospam CC: wgchairs@ietf.org, Henrik Levkowetz , Robert Sparks Hi Jouni, I have confirmed that the specific erroneous message content in the image you provided would be the result of running an old version of the resource file, https://mailarchive.ietf.org/static/mlarchive/js/mailarch-1.0.js. Furthermore, the fact that incognito mode works properly also points to a cache issue. Are you able to confirm, at the OS level, that the Chrome cache files are being deleted? Thanks, Ryan > On Nov 30, 2016, at 2:36 PM, jouni.nospam wrote: > > Reloading (and clearing browsing data) did not help. Same browser > “session” but in incognito window mails show up as they should. > > - Jouni > > >> On Nov 29, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> >> Hi Jouni - >> >> The picture suggests a stale bit of css and javascript - does it clear up >> if you do a full reload of the page? >> >> RjS >> >> >> On 11/29/16 2:37 PM, jouni.nospam wrote: >>> Folks, >>> >>> I got this weird thing going.. see the linked picture >>> (http://www.deadcoderssociety.net/mailarchive.png) - about 319KB. I seem to >>> get mailarchive reviews from issue tracker or some other random working >>> group mailing list but not from the dmm mailing list I was checking ;) When >>> I double click any mail I get the proper content. What is more interesting >>> to me is that it is only Chrome having this issue. Both Safari and FF are >>> ok. Anyone else experienced this? >>> >>> - Jouni >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >