From nobody Mon Dec 5 07:40:57 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768BC129B1F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 07:40:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r2yr0FSiqxOt for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 07:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FCC8129B43 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 07:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263D1300261 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 10:28:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id H2HxoxGx_G5w for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 10:28:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [172.22.248.36] (unknown [65.132.39.157]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2572330025F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 10:28:00 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 10:38:15 -0500 To: IETF Tools Development Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2016 15:40:56 -0000 Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern 1. Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan - Contracts for Datatracker Enhancements -- Robert -- Review Tracking -- Author Statistics 2. Community & Other Projects - Improvements to the mail archive application -- Robert and Ryan - IETF Website Makeover -- Greg and Joe 3. RFC Services Projects - Contracts for Improvements to RFC Services -- Heather and Robert -- CSS for the RFCs -- RFC Format-related Developments 4. Server Infrastructure - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Robert and Ben - Migrate toward Django 1.8, 1.9, and 1.10 -- Henrik 5. Parking Lot - Libraries for HTML of I-Ds -- Henrik - CDN support for HTML and PDF I-Ds -- Henrik - Migrate from MySQL to PostgreSQL -- Henrik - Discontinue MonArch email archives -- Robert - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub - Mailman support for internationalized email addresses -- Requires Mailman 3.1, which is expected in early 2017 - Meeting registration support for internationalized email addresses -- Mailman must be done first; user is added to meeting mail lists 6. AOB From nobody Mon Dec 12 07:30:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4E1129C85 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 07:30:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GRC5GT10xPFQ for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 07:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D94C129C7F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 07:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uBCFU45q020139 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:30:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:30:04 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:30:08 -0000 Some notes for tomorrows meeting: On 12/5/16 9:38 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern > > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan The plan is updated. We'll be talking about much of it in later sections. Note that I've up-leveled what's on the MergePlan page - I'm trying to make it's focus more on the near-term high-level big changes that might disrupt people working in other parts of the system. There are more details (and a longer view) in the PLAN file that page links to. For this part of the call, please skim those pages to make sure we have are reflecting relative priorities correctly. > - Contracts for Datatracker Enhancements -- Robert > -- Review Tracking This is accepted and deployed. We are getting lots of change requests and requests for new features, and have been working through them rapidly. See for the currently open tickets. shows a summary of what we've recently closed (in all components, not just the /review component) > -- Author Statistics Started - awaiting a status update from IOLA. > > 2. Community & Other Projects > - Improvements to the mail archive application -- Robert and Ryan > - IETF Website Makeover -- Greg and Joe > > 3. RFC Services Projects > - Contracts for Improvements to RFC Services -- Heather and Robert > -- CSS for the RFCs > -- RFC Format-related Developments > > 4. Server Infrastructure > - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Robert and Ben Alexey is still gathering information and the IESG is still discussing what decision they are willing to make. Given the impending holidays, I don't expect we will do anything to production until mid-January. I don't think we need to spend time on this during tomorrow's call. > - Migrate toward Django 1.8, 1.9, and 1.10 -- Henrik > > 5. Parking Lot > - Libraries for HTML of I-Ds -- Henrik Bring this one out of the parking lot. Note that it is currently on the mergeplan. > - CDN support for HTML and PDF I-Ds -- Henrik > - Migrate from MySQL to PostgreSQL -- Henrik > - Discontinue MonArch email archives -- Robert > - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Robert > - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert > - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? > - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik > - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert > - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub > - Mailman support for internationalized email addresses > -- Requires Mailman 3.1, which is expected in early 2017 > - Meeting registration support for internationalized email addresses > -- Mailman must be done first; user is added to meeting mail lists > > 6. AOB > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Mon Dec 12 08:14:56 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C48012951D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 08:14:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7GhVVe-pYYoz for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 08:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6E4A129CD7 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 08:14:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from h-43-30.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.43.30]:49387 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1cGTF6-0004l7-NU; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 08:14:21 -0800 Message-ID: <584ECCCD.5070909@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 17:14:05 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Sparks , tools-development@ietf.org References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FVKdO4XvRMGPdqt5jt5pK26uU2CSHSXsR" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.43.30 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-development@ietf.org, rjsparks@nostrum.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 16:14:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --FVKdO4XvRMGPdqt5jt5pK26uU2CSHSXsR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Additional notes inline: On 2016-12-12 16:30, Robert Sparks wrote: > Some notes for tomorrows meeting: >=20 >=20 > On 12/5/16 9:38 AM, Russ Housley wrote: >> Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern >> >> 1. Datatracker Projects >> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan > > The plan is updated. We'll be talking about much of it in later section= s. > Note that I've up-leveled what's on the MergePlan page - I'm trying to = make > it's focus more on the near-term high-level big changes that might disr= upt > people working in other parts of the system. There are more details (an= d a > longer view) in the PLAN file that page links to. > For this part of the call, please skim those pages to make sure we have= > are reflecting relative priorities correctly. > >> - Contracts for Datatracker Enhancements -- Robert >> -- Review Tracking > > This is accepted and deployed. We are getting lots of change requests a= nd > requests for new features, and have been working through them rapidly. > See > for the currently = > open tickets. >=20 > shows a summary of= =20 > what we've recently closed (in all components, not just the /review=20 > component) >=20 >> -- Author Statistics > > Started - awaiting a status update from IOLA. > >> >> 2. Community & Other Projects >> - Improvements to the mail archive application -- Robert and Ryan >> - IETF Website Makeover -- Greg and Joe >> >> 3. RFC Services Projects >> - Contracts for Improvements to RFC Services -- Heather and Robert= >> -- CSS for the RFCs >> -- RFC Format-related Developments >> >> 4. Server Infrastructure >> - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Robert and Ben > > Alexey is still gathering information and the IESG is still discussing = > what decision they are willing to make. Given the impending holidays, I= =20 > don't expect we will do anything to production until mid-January. I=20 > don't think we need to spend time on this during tomorrow's call. > >> - Migrate toward Django 1.8, 1.9, and 1.10 -- Henrik The migration to Django 1.8 is pretty much done; I've merged the work to trunk and I'm running final tests now, before committing and releasing= =2E In addition to deprecations and backward-incompatible changes, Django 1.8= introduced type checking of foreign-key and many-to-many-key arguments wh= en doing database queries. This brought to light a number of places where we provided the wrong argument types (or multiple inconsistent argument types) to queries. These have all been fixed, and the code is more solid= as a result. Next up is migration to Django 1.9. >> >> 5. Parking Lot >> - Libraries for HTML of I-Ds -- Henrik > Bring this one out of the parking lot. Note that it is currently on the= =20 > mergeplan. >> - CDN support for HTML and PDF I-Ds -- Henrik >> - Migrate from MySQL to PostgreSQL -- Henrik >> - Discontinue MonArch email archives -- Robert >> - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- Rob= ert >> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Rober= t >> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? >> - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik >> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >> - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub >> - Mailman support for internationalized email addresses >> -- Requires Mailman 3.1, which is expected in early 2017 >> - Meeting registration support for internationalized email address= es >> -- Mailman must be done first; user is added to meeting mail lis= ts >> >> 6. AOB >> --FVKdO4XvRMGPdqt5jt5pK26uU2CSHSXsR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJYTszUAAoJEE6bV0uPuxca1b0P/254EPVZoAo9t1+tWARSrDr3 4cQdOLjgixtY9YtEcdZKHCp/3yS0cYSt+zzDSApX4nrUEZFo0gtwVRSU04TOACFR x76Lkrh8Yl4vyi3D1gyaR3vrtBOdN9QlDIIQtADDR7QkC/iJVcrxSg6b3rEFmgtP udwK3HeAm7BH3dii0umAU6puOkuJKo+Jj+oxLlcneYkd2GxT/yhDNJQ5/2dBPQDi BJM02tip9j1ke1rOE6Lr0xHxklyOIZ9i1iHQDqvZkfjTkWdDAGEYYuHoVwXu1SbL Af+/IBgvm6IFdO1zTMYoarQaI9Izh8cUBsDQMfiQgy16MKq3XVyGhwMSo40Jclax o0DVGFjtlhD9HNLLv6wuuCTcyZjsisaUzxUlMxgUm1lzMlfKvCWyGoWxIK4wjNIi 5O3pVwhp3xQCVkq6R7dbcRvao09T6PcbR1rF+kYAmKTgu4Q6WSZ3pRoAHqccQ4QB Dp8Oh9t5n+8IyJrc3Yw43JTb4WmSAgxRxD82mKFK81i+vUjkYVa2TPQK8mOqOXOk qkseFNO2uIye09lCoeqR+1zgTN5r75vbEILf+Pi3LfirTrkxf0oFiVvbq5YkhwGU bIYRd72FiwXt4/FrmBCC8tj81r4jQmAfM4E+3vo40KGvl+UJZ6XrvVIeWp+LyGrB emZYxSt1xuzN3y112BBX =N/3l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FVKdO4XvRMGPdqt5jt5pK26uU2CSHSXsR-- From nobody Mon Dec 12 10:10:22 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BB112975C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:10:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lsiphm3n9i8W for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:10:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 682341296A2 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:10:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uBCIAIaF035236 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:10:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:10:18 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 18:10:21 -0000 On 12/12/16 9:30 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > Some notes for tomorrows meeting: > > > On 12/5/16 9:38 AM, Russ Housley wrote: >> Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern >> >> 1. Datatracker Projects >> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan > The plan is updated. We'll be talking about much of it in later sections. > Note that I've up-leveled what's on the MergePlan page - I'm trying to > make > it's focus more on the near-term high-level big changes that might > disrupt > people working in other parts of the system. There are more details > (and a > longer view) in the PLAN file that page links to. > For this part of the call, please skim those pages to make sure we have > are reflecting relative priorities correctly. I meant to mention: Thre new-ish things that are on the list to check the relative priorities for: * The IESG would like the downref registry moved into the datatracker and to have it integrated with last call generation * The IESG would like a view of recent ballots by telechat to help * We should add an API to allow meetecho to associate recordings with sessions as soon as they become available. We currently have these prioritized as seen at , after the htmlization of document views and the next round of improvements to the Yang checker. >> - Contracts for Datatracker Enhancements -- Robert >> -- Review Tracking > This is accepted and deployed. We are getting lots of change requests and > requests for new features, and have been working through them rapidly. > See > for the currently > open tickets. > > shows a summary > of what we've recently closed (in all components, not just the /review > component) > >> -- Author Statistics > Started - awaiting a status update from IOLA. >> >> 2. Community & Other Projects >> - Improvements to the mail archive application -- Robert and Ryan >> - IETF Website Makeover -- Greg and Joe >> >> 3. RFC Services Projects >> - Contracts for Improvements to RFC Services -- Heather and Robert >> -- CSS for the RFCs >> -- RFC Format-related Developments >> >> 4. Server Infrastructure >> - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Robert and Ben > Alexey is still gathering information and the IESG is still discussing > what decision they are willing to make. Given the impending holidays, > I don't expect we will do anything to production until mid-January. I > don't think we need to spend time on this during tomorrow's call. >> - Migrate toward Django 1.8, 1.9, and 1.10 -- Henrik >> >> 5. Parking Lot >> - Libraries for HTML of I-Ds -- Henrik > Bring this one out of the parking lot. Note that it is currently on > the mergeplan. >> - CDN support for HTML and PDF I-Ds -- Henrik >> - Migrate from MySQL to PostgreSQL -- Henrik >> - Discontinue MonArch email archives -- Robert >> - Improve infrastructure for finding and fetching artifacts -- >> Robert >> - Author information for very old I-Ds in the datatracker -- Robert >> - Replace I-Ds in proceedings with links to archive copy? >> - Performance improvements and transition to Postgres -- Henrik >> - VM Architecture for Servers -- Robert >> - Submit an I-D directly from GitHub >> - Mailman support for internationalized email addresses >> -- Requires Mailman 3.1, which is expected in early 2017 >> - Meeting registration support for internationalized email addresses >> -- Mailman must be done first; user is added to meeting mail lists >> >> 6. 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Mon, 12 Dec 2016 14:35:36 -0500 From: "HANSEN, TONY L" To: "tools-development@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern Thread-Index: AQHSVKMGcwGuh2zcsE6QTqQE2GGwFaEEtIuA Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:35:35 +0000 Message-ID: References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.110.240.14] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <6DBCBCBF86AD3C4E9A996E9C7EDA39CC@LOCAL> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2016-12-12_13:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_policy_notspam policy=outbound_policy score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 impostorscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1609300000 definitions=main-1612120291 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:35:55 -0000 SSBoYXZlbuKAmXQgc2VlbiBhbnkgd2ViZXggZGV0YWlscyBsYXRlbHkuIA0KDQoJVG9ueQ0KDQpP biAxMi8xMi8xNiwgMToxMCBQTSwgIlRPT0xTLURFVkVMT1BNRU5UIG9uIGJlaGFsZiBvZiBSb2Jl cnQgU3BhcmtzIiA8dG9vbHMtZGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQtYm91bmNlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyBvbiBiZWhhbGYg b2YgcmpzcGFya3NAbm9zdHJ1bS5jb20+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQogICAgT24gMTIvMTIvMTYgOTozMCBB TSwgUm9iZXJ0IFNwYXJrcyB3cm90ZToNCiAgICA+IFNvbWUgbm90ZXMgZm9yIHRvbW9ycm93cyBt ZWV0aW5nOg0KDQoNCg== From nobody Mon Dec 12 11:56:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C39129464 for ; 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Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:56:15 -0000 should be at the calendar at https://ical.ietf.org/public.php/IAOC/Tools This is what I see there: ----- JOIN WEBEX MEETING https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?MTID=mc345fa798d129bbbe1a89dcce8df76aa Meeting number (access code): 829 074 044 JOIN BY PHONE 1-877-668-4490 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada) 1-408-792-6300 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) Global call-in numbers: https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/globalcallin.php?serviceType=MC&ED=353607892&tollFree=1 Toll-free dialing restrictions: https://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf Can't join the meeting? https://help.webex.com/docs/DOC-5412 IMPORTANT NOTICE: Please note that this WebEx service allows audio and other information sent during the session to be recorded, which may be discoverable in a legal matter. 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On 12/12/16 1:35 PM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: > I haven’t seen any webex details lately. > > Tony > > On 12/12/16, 1:10 PM, "TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT on behalf of Robert Sparks" wrote: > > On 12/12/16 9:30 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > > Some notes for tomorrows meeting: > > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Mon Dec 12 11:57:51 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41C312975C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:57:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qhcPSh_WuBjP for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:57:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-io0-x236.google.com (mail-io0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CAF412978B for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:57:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-io0-x236.google.com with SMTP id d9so186930881ioe.0 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:57:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=tHRFkYoclWTVCEuIEOsKn8MJX+pbKv6tJgNhUcvHIUo=; b=Wl2v+mpQYIAWX7cfwpXvwYlBq28ePIMF2l6sXAHCUlURfWu2dc2D1quxO/5iBxDCU6 z3atxDN6IM5fZzuMHdMYnT7xo/KohSC24n3vz9y8wb3TGuRWYf/8SDmQFrNP/kBqmTbT qq2DGFtNXmxxAETS3y4R3fjSV1wDbrDfRpX+KjBGWZTVqXrLqQuxFesmd+DzesLQfkZZ dtZGlKyrTubv+2kHtWGPgr0LV3aRrWXZDXXDFHhB9LSVvIzsAibxdbAcSYpS5Dr9U5Ke wqQGgunN8TCzGFZ7iI/RxO+RsEvBABOT4vgOuUu7hWyweacl6tbrlSWdaY4o7q/yq5r1 2mfQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=tHRFkYoclWTVCEuIEOsKn8MJX+pbKv6tJgNhUcvHIUo=; b=JDRFFOENt1psU4G4iAi0q5J+QiqJBbqs5G+9eTJ9uDNE1Y++XoCrhCIH7u8gujePoz gS2LRw45YNrsPzORcmhcwPotcroo+DBEeTUnIHbfKLY4/SJ7fMUJQanBZ0yqlN696c6F r9UbKvEaRQIA0ag0o+zSd27N0GrqNc0f4xOIvZtHHKubaeAZ/2D1tFfYoZb/dnuMVo2c EQ9FJeRi85W4Kx+pGG4+C1M7v4BmXzUUR35jzPHQkYqN0m7Ioy88iQoOAJGIkl00CwHP RsVfaicIM259sgaMWyvqQ24KJV7/TJOSNVIhyc/5NK0MwKftPXBLV24gHfTywprbbVc8 cong== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01zrNJnHKMRqMAi9/zuUWJqfQJo/Gg5FaLPWlhoA4ksu8+HbXnaeykgWd3eUm3PzA== X-Received: by 10.36.13.82 with SMTP id 79mr11221890itx.66.1481572648144; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.160.52] ([209.97.127.10]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g32sm10632753ioj.36.2016.12.12.11.57.27 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:57:27 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C2652C27-D9B9-47CF-8AD1-A5BAD7C5B281"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:51:31 -0800 Message-Id: <336450E6-3D19-450E-AD3A-4FF5718DC704@gmail.com> References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:57:43 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C2652C27-D9B9-47CF-8AD1-A5BAD7C5B281 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Robert, > On Dec 12, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 12/12/16 9:30 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> Some notes for tomorrows meeting: >>=20 >>=20 >> On 12/5/16 9:38 AM, Russ Housley wrote: >>> Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern >>>=20 >>> 1. Datatracker Projects >>> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >>> -- http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan >> The plan is updated. We'll be talking about much of it in later = sections. >> Note that I've up-leveled what's on the MergePlan page - I'm trying = to make >> it's focus more on the near-term high-level big changes that might = disrupt >> people working in other parts of the system. There are more details = (and a >> longer view) in the PLAN file that page links to. >> For this part of the call, please skim those pages to make sure we = have >> are reflecting relative priorities correctly. > I meant to mention: Thre new-ish things that are on the list to check = the relative priorities for: >=20 > * The IESG would like the downref registry moved into the datatracker = and to have it integrated with last call generation > * The IESG would like a view of recent ballots by telechat to help > * We should add an API to allow meetecho to associate recordings with = sessions as soon as they become available. >=20 > We currently have these prioritized as seen at = , after the = htmlization of document views and the next round of improvements to the = Yang checker. One thing I have been thinking about is to send an email notice to = document shepherd when one of their documents in on an IESG agenda. = This would save them having to check each IESG agenda themselves. Or is = there already a way to do this? Thanks, Bob --Apple-Mail=_C2652C27-D9B9-47CF-8AD1-A5BAD7C5B281 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJYTv/DAAoJEK7rdBF357uo22EIAIfwy/3HBjcdCtoZuQwZ28aM ZsZTbqjwklqRkQ92CATgBks3ivCzWZ2doeafu1UKiMk/EbkyuB6AYzKhToaNo+K/ vLp7UPYM24mfGLIgZqvACuwBP6hONOR+4n0xigxYJOI0WxFX6aTU/emkx0OtTNi1 gUqS0xNBhJeLGdmNuDFPLZnBhe3vWXg6B0wkwwGo8QvYaTSfR4+6pZY+RsCK/5Pv xnGCiEMJnorJvmEL3YrNxo7jUENN926X8Y90mlKPNJgVK+JkmktDFnKNDStFScH9 9uYC0QCBxbBDJplCUTp4ioavTgniLMR4XQfuUxpCfOVp7Md6ev7YOsMaTW9kL1g= =pmKh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_C2652C27-D9B9-47CF-8AD1-A5BAD7C5B281-- From nobody Mon Dec 12 12:07:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5551312947A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:07:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SIS0mSHSZU3D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:07:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAB491294D5 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:07:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uBCK7Kee046632 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Mon, 12 Dec 2016 14:07:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: Bob Hinden References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> <336450E6-3D19-450E-AD3A-4FF5718DC704@gmail.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <4b7ad027-8d12-32f2-ae46-60c74eb7fbb7@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 14:07:20 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <336450E6-3D19-450E-AD3A-4FF5718DC704@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Notifying shepherds of telechat scheduling (was Re: Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern) X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:07:23 -0000 On 12/12/16 1:51 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: > One thing I have been thinking about is to send an email notice to document shepherd when one of their documents in on an IESG agenda. This would save them having to check each IESG agenda themselves. Or is there already a way to do this? > > Thanks, > Bob They should be getting a message as soon as the document is scheduled on a telechat already. See : I did a quick skim through the code and all the paths that set a telechat date are using that unless I missed something. Do you have an example where a shepherd _didn't_ get notified recently? RjS From nobody Mon Dec 12 12:16:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E86712940F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:16:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RDQpZe9IiV6a for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qt0-x233.google.com (mail-qt0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CAEC1293EC for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qt0-x233.google.com with SMTP id c47so87330126qtc.2 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:16:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=Osa86jBBzzpPnEZkpBuOtS1suDtvnFiGBoivT/1pfO4=; b=y12TXa8wBPoJFHFRVYW95ZPZ7PFoIMs26nZ9RycWWwZUxYfRocviRnSlu9DXMqJz5p AxP54T0Iw+QhOFAmAVEKzJShaJ3oM7o6UQNmJDDHyBWBwsTagAV4vtyWPP21gZY7LYFe ZqiL2PtoudIZBXgQBDFTvQXlS2epX7Lyio4QJcaw6fGgA1kVdAyr/KvVdfHzN89f+SBZ gh5sB4p69hhMz80knE5D3zv3P3eD6TKRuGdjks7pb/YunA0FZXA/ifQ+Hi274RCqwNA5 IErcP1CoMKbgNjRozkWh4W5PggtPB+TqbHkr+ptbiyhPjIaohVm9fKO9fpWz6FPgDD6G OLww== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=Osa86jBBzzpPnEZkpBuOtS1suDtvnFiGBoivT/1pfO4=; b=IeHlcpXQbwB/Z11igb6OcaRYVSXhWEoANjxSy1wOIDq5itkP8baA2S+FPj9+EF8RLX g/DAr6db88/bwxBvj7kdJ7CkXF0274RfNcqfFxAKTAig/hl/fEALxvhTonZAuh45PMJM koJm5/qbdnVAZdSwqE6bsSDseofCoIpf0aV/4QHsZOKMiAk4Oyg258iANEBum7xHSO2r 5gv4cRkXIQdbpYhnQGRnf+j1zRB1QTyb6kDZ4troy742oU33ePeVqlMS3V0LxSp9yYqp W3GoYd3gPWVZQOn8BhueVrfG8jBNDVti2mtV62FRH4xMfUZJo0jTeFb4sIPtRrX3FN6O XB5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC02PqsdVd0Sm0f4HQJm9K2QbnTOuk6agTA7x6t/xUZJxjUkqTTiDQtvdQtB/gOxpHw== X-Received: by 10.237.44.67 with SMTP id f61mr91064234qtd.244.1481573802353; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:16:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.224.219] ([209.97.127.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y17sm20740852qkb.24.2016.12.12.12.16.40 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:16:41 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_629D1B26-59AD-4C8B-8E6A-8552D5EE3FBF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <4b7ad027-8d12-32f2-ae46-60c74eb7fbb7@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:16:37 -0800 Message-Id: <2AF93980-FDE8-4186-AC7D-EFCDDF2F547F@gmail.com> References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> <336450E6-3D19-450E-AD3A-4FF5718DC704@gmail.com> <4b7ad027-8d12-32f2-ae46-60c74eb7fbb7@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Notifying shepherds of telechat scheduling (was Re: Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern) X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:16:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_629D1B26-59AD-4C8B-8E6A-8552D5EE3FBF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 12/12/16 1:51 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: > >> One thing I have been thinking about is to send an email notice to = document shepherd when one of their documents in on an IESG agenda. = This would save them having to check each IESG agenda themselves. Or is = there already a way to do this? >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Bob >=20 > They should be getting a message as soon as the document is scheduled = on a telechat already. > See : = >=20 > I did a quick skim through the code and all the paths that set a = telechat date are using that unless I missed something. > Do you have an example where a shepherd _didn't_ get notified = recently? I don=92t remember having received one. For example, = draft-ietf-6man-default-iids is on the IESG agenda for 12/15/2016. I = chair 6MAN, but I don=92t think I have received a notice for that = meeting. Reading the trigger page, I assume I should have received an = email. Thanks, Bob >=20 > RjS --Apple-Mail=_629D1B26-59AD-4C8B-8E6A-8552D5EE3FBF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJYTwWmAAoJEK7rdBF357uoVoMIAK3mc3H3SOn9jIfcyQktA4R1 w8vXya1okFIgNvjTQTCQwb9T8d5Gs6eWBKip27DuJSWC1JT2rPQCoIhwXun7iCKJ irvo8jeJh2dtem4diLnGKLa70LDLPtoxi7y64r3ZWluyO1BBa5bY+FWWS9rxUUhL MS84JVjtRU40SDLh6UsBRgtQl3nGXKdfPyknXDVNwyKE/UeWUD4wJ9Geu9D60mpV sfmqhJnaYqgIQOnsDlZ2ElTyOqDcB+AapPmL0u+Qx35erYYZZGZ3gJ+vWFS7xO+U xB4l48rjm5U8BtQfxYQyVUbIVL4kL034BRtD0DquDV8iqQtfYORmeo0CJpLqv+w= =Dsi3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_629D1B26-59AD-4C8B-8E6A-8552D5EE3FBF-- From nobody Mon Dec 12 12:25:56 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7537D1297AC for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:25:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pXVo4EPMmCqE for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:25:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 518D512948D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:25:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uBCKPi84048338 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Mon, 12 Dec 2016 14:25:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: Bob Hinden References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> <336450E6-3D19-450E-AD3A-4FF5718DC704@gmail.com> <4b7ad027-8d12-32f2-ae46-60c74eb7fbb7@nostrum.com> <2AF93980-FDE8-4186-AC7D-EFCDDF2F547F@gmail.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <0321b5f3-b38d-ad58-0b1d-718bcadd1ac9@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 14:25:44 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2AF93980-FDE8-4186-AC7D-EFCDDF2F547F@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Notifying shepherds of telechat scheduling (was Re: Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern) X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:25:54 -0000 It was sent to you on 17 Nov (when the document was placed on that telechat. The subject was "Telechat update notice: This was the To: line - To: "Robert M. Hinden" , , , , "The IESG" , <6man-chairs@ietf.org> and if it helps, this was the Message-ID - Message-ID: <147934358584.14891.14320888951871207274.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> RjS On 12/12/16 2:16 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: >> On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> >> >> >> On 12/12/16 1:51 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: >> >>> One thing I have been thinking about is to send an email notice to document shepherd when one of their documents in on an IESG agenda. This would save them having to check each IESG agenda themselves. Or is there already a way to do this? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bob >> They should be getting a message as soon as the document is scheduled on a telechat already. >> See : >> >> I did a quick skim through the code and all the paths that set a telechat date are using that unless I missed something. >> Do you have an example where a shepherd _didn't_ get notified recently? > I don’t remember having received one. For example, draft-ietf-6man-default-iids is on the IESG agenda for 12/15/2016. I chair 6MAN, but I don’t think I have received a notice for that meeting. Reading the trigger page, I assume I should have received an email. > > Thanks, > Bob > >> RjS From nobody Mon Dec 12 12:48:38 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115741297B8 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:48:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ulG83GdYLKHm for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qt0-x236.google.com (mail-qt0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31F621294D3 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qt0-x236.google.com with SMTP id p16so88108328qta.0 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:48:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=EjKWu+7Uk5EezQmZbA43UDG4uFs9UNMBEd+VVd3ZWbY=; b=WvAQ09g9uRCllvuERy5XAOY4nkwH9MKja34M9VuQQmAp/RJDpbAtJyQbHd/yNp01tW 0oLlyng0f67/MVWx+AJdwSalB/+3+KdXVBkdOIOR68w+rpISCIiE5bg3Y3e7bPWuv5P0 eVxvXnh2sV1vOPv+Uwf0aDRFB8NylvdeA4Kjp4Q9OVV4aisAcGoGXJP/icebtQL1eL6o ni8kKXmrCOTASTDAckEN+ijBRb0PqpWsQ+h6TTgHEgQ4kBRfj5uVydkd7Xq2pvYVUkS0 HOKqZJNwPFoAF+kJ9E6CAIeYMs+nehEnhpICn7347UUBTJW05wZhIw8IW1+J9L2zvLJs KMGg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=EjKWu+7Uk5EezQmZbA43UDG4uFs9UNMBEd+VVd3ZWbY=; b=l/LVf+YPRYHGdpUKKiLu1LsbCzR4hJx0ZKRqbKdShz+dRxy5/uhZVfA0eyl5N0Tc+5 uDVm22XBJ9OktewXqw766EQHkLrJqkliVESGs6Wv7DY1UIhMDNZsmYxLvlCLwZW63cnV Rwu1JIGHMBW/edYwTI/9lEVTtp+wBxsQXKzFfUqw1al/JOza9wmdkjKTr46nOyZzFEs0 rQ+CjfJlUv7aDCRauIQrHwSRiscyc2oEwroY4X163N84x0ZawswIizebXBCqfPHi//Pi /5ugJQH71yHQQlUY/ltLz3g2OR1JxBpnNZB01ISidyULU5v9Eyl5JFhXr5TrYG1uRaC+ 1ipA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC024kfh5+8EaTFsYAdLcPfzH4yUMCiCNl8d/7qxJX1v8FVlkWAi2fBJ8I/JFBHkBxA== X-Received: by 10.200.47.204 with SMTP id m12mr94191602qta.79.1481575714356; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:48:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.224.219] ([209.97.127.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f7sm27250375qtf.48.2016.12.12.12.48.33 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:48:33 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CC4CFADE-4FA9-42BE-BDA8-B330A197985C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <0321b5f3-b38d-ad58-0b1d-718bcadd1ac9@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:48:30 -0800 Message-Id: <6A7517CF-E05D-4747-9ED4-C76BD9B4CD8A@gmail.com> References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> <336450E6-3D19-450E-AD3A-4FF5718DC704@gmail.com> <4b7ad027-8d12-32f2-ae46-60c74eb7fbb7@nostrum.com> <2AF93980-FDE8-4186-AC7D-EFCDDF2F547F@gmail.com> <0321b5f3-b38d-ad58-0b1d-718bcadd1ac9@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Notifying shepherds of telechat scheduling (was Re: Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern) X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:48:37 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_CC4CFADE-4FA9-42BE-BDA8-B330A197985C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Robert, Not sure why I missed it, but I did find it. Too much email I guess :-( Thanks, Bob > On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 > It was sent to you on 17 Nov (when the document was placed on that = telechat. >=20 > The subject was "Telechat update notice: = >=20 > This was the To: line - >=20 > To: "Robert M. Hinden" , = , , = , "The IESG" , = <6man-chairs@ietf.org> >=20 > and if it helps, this was the Message-ID - >=20 > Message-ID: = <147934358584.14891.14320888951871207274.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> >=20 > RjS >=20 > On 12/12/16 2:16 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: >>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 12/12/16 1:51 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: >>> >>>> One thing I have been thinking about is to send an email notice to = document shepherd when one of their documents in on an IESG agenda. = This would save them having to check each IESG agenda themselves. Or is = there already a way to do this? >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bob >>> They should be getting a message as soon as the document is = scheduled on a telechat already. >>> See : = >>>=20 >>> I did a quick skim through the code and all the paths that set a = telechat date are using that unless I missed something. >>> Do you have an example where a shepherd _didn't_ get notified = recently? >> I don=92t remember having received one. For example, = draft-ietf-6man-default-iids is on the IESG agenda for 12/15/2016. I = chair 6MAN, but I don=92t think I have received a notice for that = meeting. Reading the trigger page, I assume I should have received an = email. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Bob >>=20 >>> RjS >=20 --Apple-Mail=_CC4CFADE-4FA9-42BE-BDA8-B330A197985C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJYTw0eAAoJEK7rdBF357uoqMUIAJALX8amdOrVn9pzfzpjCv4x 426TqoGjZH+J8Zvx0COsufBBT3cq+r8BRt5MGyxoYUeSNXHKhD3/kBSl8h0RHSJf 1Fxeb0Pjq4OaPLjWynZuKS/Luk+KCf7Rg0WO+SLLQPYAXax46MhMZKH4tG6+N26U XyYeAuI8f9DeVRZTIJGOyC0rZjEZjzpkIu8qGkRtAmUpZH7tTxz7iaXIq/G2MQmb M1NyQpWD00AslrZPuz5PGEfCsebNZi7+VRboTwMVae6MUylH/ocNIo3gJldVXy3X KYtI4JaiV2WXWS8H+e/2uJFK2MWee0txrMfqepmYp7jN0ZtDapHxfsYgEAk2Pbk= =ubhC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_CC4CFADE-4FA9-42BE-BDA8-B330A197985C-- From nobody Mon Dec 12 13:00:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2CF1294EB for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:59:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7KBPhjGIAK0b for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:59:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 789D41294E0 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:59:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4487B300288 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:49:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Tr7ZkUW-oKhY for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:49:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3F6C63000DC; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:49:40 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 16:00:07 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 21:00:00 -0000 Robert: > I meant to mention: Thre new-ish things that are on the list to check = the relative priorities for: >=20 > * The IESG would like the downref registry moved into the datatracker = and to have it integrated with last call generation > * The IESG would like a view of recent ballots by telechat to help > * We should add an API to allow meetecho to associate recordings with = sessions as soon as they become available. These need to be volunteer efforts. Can you give a feeling about their = scope? Russ From nobody Mon Dec 12 13:32:28 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB913129CF4 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:32:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zfneKwjSX7-U for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41659129C55 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uBCLWFLw054077 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:32:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: Bob Hinden References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> <336450E6-3D19-450E-AD3A-4FF5718DC704@gmail.com> <4b7ad027-8d12-32f2-ae46-60c74eb7fbb7@nostrum.com> <2AF93980-FDE8-4186-AC7D-EFCDDF2F547F@gmail.com> <0321b5f3-b38d-ad58-0b1d-718bcadd1ac9@nostrum.com> <6A7517CF-E05D-4747-9ED4-C76BD9B4CD8A@gmail.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <6de0997d-404b-5e45-f6d6-8fb16d374223@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:32:15 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6A7517CF-E05D-4747-9ED4-C76BD9B4CD8A@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Notifying shepherds of telechat scheduling (was Re: Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern) X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 21:32:19 -0000 On 12/12/16 2:48 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: > Robert, > > Not sure why I missed it, but I did find it. Too much email I guess :-( Before we give up on the thread, maybe we should poke at whether you really missed it, or if it was so long ago it wasn't relevant? (Are we sending the information you really want at the right time?) RjS > > Thanks, > Bob > >> On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> >> It was sent to you on 17 Nov (when the document was placed on that telechat. >> >> The subject was "Telechat update notice: >> >> This was the To: line - >> >> To: "Robert M. Hinden" , , , , "The IESG" , <6man-chairs@ietf.org> >> >> and if it helps, this was the Message-ID - >> >> Message-ID: <147934358584.14891.14320888951871207274.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> >> >> RjS >> >> On 12/12/16 2:16 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: >>>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/12/16 1:51 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: >>>> >>>>> One thing I have been thinking about is to send an email notice to document shepherd when one of their documents in on an IESG agenda. This would save them having to check each IESG agenda themselves. Or is there already a way to do this? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Bob >>>> They should be getting a message as soon as the document is scheduled on a telechat already. >>>> See : >>>> >>>> I did a quick skim through the code and all the paths that set a telechat date are using that unless I missed something. >>>> Do you have an example where a shepherd _didn't_ get notified recently? >>> I don’t remember having received one. For example, draft-ietf-6man-default-iids is on the IESG agenda for 12/15/2016. I chair 6MAN, but I don’t think I have received a notice for that meeting. Reading the trigger page, I assume I should have received an email. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bob >>> >>>> RjS From nobody Mon Dec 12 13:36:12 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7F81294AF for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:36:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9ec0YrjcJpRN for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:36:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9425F1289C4 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:36:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uBCLa8la054420 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:36:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: Russ Housley References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <8be570aa-cdc1-8ef2-354f-6453c9291925@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:36:08 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 21:36:11 -0000 On 12/12/16 3:00 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > Robert: > >> I meant to mention: Thre new-ish things that are on the list to check the relative priorities for: >> >> * The IESG would like the downref registry moved into the datatracker and to have it integrated with last call generation >> * The IESG would like a view of recent ballots by telechat to help >> * We should add an API to allow meetecho to associate recordings with sessions as soon as they become available. > These need to be volunteer efforts. Can you give a feeling about their scope? Yes, I expected we would wrangle volunteers or maintenance time to do these. I don't think any of them are _big_. The downref registry move is the largest, and only because importing the information that's in the wiki (history) will require some research. If I were to do it, I think it would take less than a week. The other two are probably a day or so each. > > Russ > From nobody Mon Dec 12 13:51:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62BA129D99 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:51:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NUI4WIPL6lrV for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-io0-x22e.google.com (mail-io0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0629512945C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-io0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id h30so195338691iod.2 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:51:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=lJ0bE8PBc9wSNRNZzmrIZ7eqa2jfyMG5wVCVTFoXu9c=; b=06ycyDX+pVACDfrihRjxnkitPTS93+FZnGOLluTxyoW3Qq8CZi6x61bGEOEMSdyv07 +MmfLbmPWgKghXpN9xL9pwtDdXx6P2L1KynhPeHnDy2ryZl24gjbWCWNvaZrwEQGQ62z 3GJtoNVS+QM3BpLorhB8gZv6lh3Ff5/xD+g2jlKf6xa86uouFcWKpkGbSB3b1675H9kH octhosjjkI2AJ1zvynLiSVE51fAptpvCH5Q0zwAi7InDXwQ4dgEqWGiTqTKSienaytqp JBvEd2QWQJ8df2O26UOeBvVk9OL359hTlCmE8wHeqbBUC7KCW1ZlfM4BmGZPhYcCsUH9 HezA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=lJ0bE8PBc9wSNRNZzmrIZ7eqa2jfyMG5wVCVTFoXu9c=; b=m+f+kPmlUJGSJNvf7uMcluCGg1deyJ6jkc03xXF47bpTlKQojXgHErEsvXD11718mY TKO4A97uxIHyquSd/ksjtLDUBa5+cj3nHfoLsY2tKwORCjoSpKHhPSA364bQKiCJQ5Dq tU1/ZuptgHW1X6mMQHRC5jltyoIdd/XWpjHY1YVrbtn5CxOKkP3gzLE0jxPEpgCowQ/m /e04ntfFuJ1itp8jmgNy0L6TdYuzmGSEGQxAKwzMTmRuHayBlQPAFX3NbLsZY37ZhPxJ ZQ1lgO19dU/xVxSfd7nBN+ckApYX97jblAiHT12+RjVk4BJuaLu6k6dLdFpISZL66PGM 7BEw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC02rTxbyvjaHpE7sTQkgStfLQ2rOCP+kSWo2snyFUkFRoQYECXGLo4EI0H5gYFzx8g== X-Received: by 10.36.120.131 with SMTP id p125mr11630351itc.15.1481579503207; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:51:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.224.219] ([209.97.127.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e13sm12574805itd.4.2016.12.12.13.51.41 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:51:42 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D8F2C76C-BBB7-488A-BEA6-98CB126AAD34"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <6de0997d-404b-5e45-f6d6-8fb16d374223@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:51:39 -0800 Message-Id: <077A76C5-176F-4C80-AEAA-E4ECF82BCE1E@gmail.com> References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> <336450E6-3D19-450E-AD3A-4FF5718DC704@gmail.com> <4b7ad027-8d12-32f2-ae46-60c74eb7fbb7@nostrum.com> <2AF93980-FDE8-4186-AC7D-EFCDDF2F547F@gmail.com> <0321b5f3-b38d-ad58-0b1d-718bcadd1ac9@nostrum.com> <6A7517CF-E05D-4747-9ED4-C76BD9B4CD8A@gmail.com> <6de0997d-404b-5e45-f6d6-8fb16d374223@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Notifying shepherds of telechat scheduling (was Re: Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern) X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 21:51:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D8F2C76C-BBB7-488A-BEA6-98CB126AAD34 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Robert, > On Dec 12, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 12/12/16 2:48 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: >> Robert, >>=20 >> Not sure why I missed it, but I did find it. Too much email I guess = :-( > Before we give up on the thread, maybe we should poke at whether you = really missed it, or if it was so long ago it wasn't relevant? > (Are we sending the information you really want at the right time?) It would be helpful if it included something to make it easier to add to = my calendar. Ideally an .ics file that included the webex info. Thanks, Bob >=20 > RjS >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Bob >>=20 >>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >>>=20 >>> It was sent to you on 17 Nov (when the document was placed on that = telechat. >>>=20 >>> The subject was "Telechat update notice: = >>>=20 >>> This was the To: line - >>>=20 >>> To: "Robert M. Hinden" , = , , = , "The IESG" , = <6man-chairs@ietf.org> >>>=20 >>> and if it helps, this was the Message-ID - >>>=20 >>> Message-ID: = <147934358584.14891.14320888951871207274.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> >>>=20 >>> RjS >>>=20 >>> On 12/12/16 2:16 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: >>>>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On 12/12/16 1:51 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> One thing I have been thinking about is to send an email notice = to document shepherd when one of their documents in on an IESG agenda. = This would save them having to check each IESG agenda themselves. Or is = there already a way to do this? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Bob >>>>> They should be getting a message as soon as the document is = scheduled on a telechat already. >>>>> See : = >>>>>=20 >>>>> I did a quick skim through the code and all the paths that set a = telechat date are using that unless I missed something. >>>>> Do you have an example where a shepherd _didn't_ get notified = recently? >>>> I don=92t remember having received one. For example, = draft-ietf-6man-default-iids is on the IESG agenda for 12/15/2016. I = chair 6MAN, but I don=92t think I have received a notice for that = meeting. Reading the trigger page, I assume I should have received an = email. >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bob >>>>=20 >>>>> RjS >=20 --Apple-Mail=_D8F2C76C-BBB7-488A-BEA6-98CB126AAD34 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJYTxvsAAoJEK7rdBF357uoZ6EH/j6MOjprazcaSEWc6N9qrzKZ qyO0GT20Z68uoqxn5qlvarQGb/8DK9as7QbplzNmZVpxeakeM4akveIHK73tcMyG TEQp7/5tled6ezYxco8858UjjaX7SDs4ETNuNN+fUVbehDcqUKT1cNiffWO4jd5O JYxTIB/JP2sfHVWhZGTiD5zT49hpI7CiX2qQAjqg4fcEPl1L5VLYzysxNzG7eZzk 9L2wWAlIzron5W8w/uNc7WSEzDPPohgxtrfxeA5eOF0EOE8yspV7fYXiGG5tLlRm OsHN+It9wxS9DYQVYkEzQr4V2p3f9WRqsregdUH22ApS0GbZo/R7DAX5132/Pbw= =fDLr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_D8F2C76C-BBB7-488A-BEA6-98CB126AAD34-- From nobody Mon Dec 12 14:08:27 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F97712945C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 14:08:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.602 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7PcImZAIlZgF for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 14:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.157.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C957212951E for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 14:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0049458.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049458.ppops.net-00191d01. 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Mon, 12 Dec 2016 17:08:05 -0500 From: "HANSEN, TONY L" To: Robert Sparks , "tools-development@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern Thread-Index: AQHSVKMGcwGuh2zcsE6QTqQE2GGwFaEEtIuAgABZlAD//9EGAA== Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 22:08:04 +0000 Message-ID: <4C67AFB1-BA21-4904-A01D-8B9D95BD3E38@att.com> References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> <25b42df1-9a3a-e8a1-8c75-7d7292769a71@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <25b42df1-9a3a-e8a1-8c75-7d7292769a71@nostrum.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.110.240.122] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <9B1743C0E8BC884C84FD78BC4B6227AF@LOCAL> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2016-12-12_15:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_policy_notspam policy=outbound_policy score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 impostorscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1609300000 definitions=main-1612120323 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 22:08:25 -0000 VGhhbmtzLCBSb2JlcnQuDQoNCglUb255DQoNCk9uIDEyLzEyLzE2LCAyOjU2IFBNLCAiVE9PTFMt REVWRUxPUE1FTlQgb24gYmVoYWxmIG9mIFJvYmVydCBTcGFya3MiIDx0b29scy1kZXZlbG9wbWVu dC1ib3VuY2VzQGlldGYub3JnIG9uIGJlaGFsZiBvZiByanNwYXJrc0Bub3N0cnVtLmNvbT4gd3Jv dGU6DQoNCiAgICBzaG91bGQgYmUgYXQgdGhlIGNhbGVuZGFyIGF0IGh0dHBzOi8vaWNhbC5pZXRm Lm9yZy9wdWJsaWMucGhwL0lBT0MvVG9vbHMNCg0KDQo= From nobody Tue Dec 13 09:58:34 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE538129525 for ; 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Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4C67AFB1-BA21-4904-A01D-8B9D95BD3E38@att.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:58:33 -0000 Hrmm - looks like the calendar didn't get updated with a good webex - the link that's there is for a meeting last week Anyone have better coordinates? On 12/12/16 4:08 PM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: > Thanks, Robert. > > Tony > > On 12/12/16, 2:56 PM, "TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT on behalf of Robert Sparks" wrote: > > should be at the calendar at https://ical.ietf.org/public.php/IAOC/Tools > > From nobody Tue Dec 13 10:02:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D873129453 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:02:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zHUiVqpf-Pcy for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:02:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F229212962C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.39] (cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uBDI23Za081828 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Dec 2016 12:02:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22] claimed to be [10.0.1.39] From: "Ben Campbell" To: "Robert Sparks" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 12:02:02 -0600 Message-ID: <8F8803BE-9F5E-45EA-AD1D-FE8BDDFF515D@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <4fc9571e-8546-aa67-303d-664ab9faeca7@nostrum.com> References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> <25b42df1-9a3a-e8a1-8c75-7d7292769a71@nostrum.com> <4C67AFB1-BA21-4904-A01D-8B9D95BD3E38@att.com> <4fc9571e-8546-aa67-303d-664ab9faeca7@nostrum.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.6r5310) Archived-At: Cc: "tools-development@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:02:09 -0000 Mine shows Dec 6, which was the originally scheduled date. But the join button is greyed-out. Any chance we could get a recurring meeting scheduled with the same webex info? On 13 Dec 2016, at 11:58, Robert Sparks wrote: > Hrmm - looks like the calendar didn't get updated with a good webex - > the link that's there is for a meeting last week > > Anyone have better coordinates? > > > > On 12/12/16 4:08 PM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: >> Thanks, Robert. >> >> Tony >> >> On 12/12/16, 2:56 PM, "TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT on behalf of Robert Sparks" >> > rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote: >> >> should be at the calendar at >> https://ical.ietf.org/public.php/IAOC/Tools >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Tue Dec 13 10:03:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332631294F4 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:03:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F0kcttz0qe4R for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:03:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BAFB31293E9 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:03:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23220 invoked by uid 0); 13 Dec 2016 18:03:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2016 18:03:38 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw4 with id KW2e1u0232SSUrH01W2hG1; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 11:02:43 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=DKocvU9b c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=n5n_aSjo0skA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=Z80JlwQ0AAAA:8 a=kxn2DO-pfSYjw_5hEv4A:9 a=OY3P-x82VsPssK85:21 a=odLbCUCeRc-PENs8:21 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=G9WWXeuLwC8A:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 a=Zz-tw7mMPhxMdvFcggwQ:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject; bh=pQ16yGhOnBq/KzUS0p4HQd+bEn81zFcSCPZowOSBBoA=; b=rsGP7D/xYc+orLhIE4DuOjgJ93 N2vf55QL4Md7p/CfWcohgzk7VfZzNAAWkur99xVHLoUq3HJlsURJzppkIiHLXNJ/RUy72FTLdHj6o D6yDU+QyRtNVVjlYNSIfjoqqb; Received: from pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.85.191]:42598 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1cGrPS-0000bS-NW for tools-development@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 11:02:38 -0700 To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> <25b42df1-9a3a-e8a1-8c75-7d7292769a71@nostrum.com> <4C67AFB1-BA21-4904-A01D-8B9D95BD3E38@att.com> <4fc9571e-8546-aa67-303d-664ab9faeca7@nostrum.com> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:02:37 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4fc9571e-8546-aa67-303d-664ab9faeca7@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.85.191 X-Exim-ID: 1cGrPS-0000bS-NW X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.85.191]:42598 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:03:41 -0000 ray is on the road, does anyone else have the credentials to start the call... On 12/13/2016 12:58 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > Hrmm - looks like the calendar didn't get updated with a good webex - > the link that's there is for a meeting last week > > Anyone have better coordinates? > > > > On 12/12/16 4:08 PM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: >> Thanks, Robert. >> >> Tony >> >> On 12/12/16, 2:56 PM, "TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT on behalf of Robert Sparks" wrote: >> >> should be at the calendar at https://ical.ietf.org/public.php/IAOC/Tools >> >> > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From nobody Tue Dec 13 10:04:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851D61293E9 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:04:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9aTZIpupOn5P for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD566129453 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66E51E565B; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:03:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wyWSv05kkEgs; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [64.170.98.130] (unknown [64.170.98.130]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AF3D61E565A; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:03:06 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Alexa Morris In-Reply-To: <8F8803BE-9F5E-45EA-AD1D-FE8BDDFF515D@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:04:03 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sendlaterdate: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:04:03 -0800 Message-Id: <8442EEE8-7B61-4472-B53A-E41C78733627@amsl.com> References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> <25b42df1-9a3a-e8a1-8c75-7d7292769a71@nostrum.com> <4C67AFB1-BA21-4904-A01D-8B9D95BD3E38@att.com> <4fc9571e-8546-aa67-303d-664ab9faeca7@nostrum.com> <8F8803BE-9F5E-45EA-AD1D-FE8BDDFF515D@nostrum.com> To: Ben Campbell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Cc: "tools-development@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:04:05 -0000 We can use my personal meeting room: https://ietf.webex.com/join/amorris = for today. Alexa On Dec 13, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Ben Campbell wrote: > Mine shows Dec 6, which was the originally scheduled date. But the = join button is greyed-out. >=20 > Any chance we could get a recurring meeting scheduled with the same = webex info? >=20 > On 13 Dec 2016, at 11:58, Robert Sparks wrote: >=20 >> Hrmm - looks like the calendar didn't get updated with a good webex - = the link that's there is for a meeting last week >>=20 >> Anyone have better coordinates? >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 12/12/16 4:08 PM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: >>> Thanks, Robert. >>>=20 >>> Tony >>>=20 >>> On 12/12/16, 2:56 PM, "TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT on behalf of Robert Sparks" = = wrote: >>>=20 >>> should be at the calendar at = https://ical.ietf.org/public.php/IAOC/Tools >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com From nobody Tue Dec 13 10:06:50 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0F61295B8 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:06:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6Xwj96M-4XBK for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B153F129473 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uBDI6W6i082587 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Tue, 13 Dec 2016 12:06:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: Alexa Morris , Ben Campbell References: <33652179-87AD-4723-8F32-3AE87EBD7D64@vigilsec.com> <205b8ea2-147e-cf70-6ee0-c99dd4c5364f@nostrum.com> <605ef5c6-7024-c92e-8876-58f476c5201d@nostrum.com> <25b42df1-9a3a-e8a1-8c75-7d7292769a71@nostrum.com> <4C67AFB1-BA21-4904-A01D-8B9D95BD3E38@att.com> <4fc9571e-8546-aa67-303d-664ab9faeca7@nostrum.com> <8F8803BE-9F5E-45EA-AD1D-FE8BDDFF515D@nostrum.com> <8442EEE8-7B61-4472-B53A-E41C78733627@amsl.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 12:06:32 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8442EEE8-7B61-4472-B53A-E41C78733627@amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "tools-development@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 13 Dec 2016 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:06:48 -0000 Russ and I are at https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/e.php?MTID=m13da73a14043c273131cf626b098691c On 12/13/16 12:04 PM, Alexa Morris wrote: > We can use my personal meeting room: https://ietf.webex.com/join/amorris for today. > > Alexa > > On Dec 13, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Ben Campbell wrote: > >> Mine shows Dec 6, which was the originally scheduled date. But the join button is greyed-out. >> >> Any chance we could get a recurring meeting scheduled with the same webex info? >> >> On 13 Dec 2016, at 11:58, Robert Sparks wrote: >> >>> Hrmm - looks like the calendar didn't get updated with a good webex - the link that's there is for a meeting last week >>> >>> Anyone have better coordinates? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/12/16 4:08 PM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: >>>> Thanks, Robert. >>>> >>>> Tony >>>> >>>> On 12/12/16, 2:56 PM, "TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT on behalf of Robert Sparks" wrote: >>>> >>>> should be at the calendar at https://ical.ietf.org/public.php/IAOC/Tools >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> > ---------- > Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF > +1.510.492.4001 > Email: amorris@amsl.com > > > From nobody Tue Dec 13 15:14:11 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8447F129C67 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:14:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2W8mkuUpaB-I for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.25.95]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27A5F129C71 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:13:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from CMOut01 (cmgw2 [10.0.90.82]) by gproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637BA17D20E for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 16:09:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by CMOut01 with id Kb9Q1u00w2SSUrH01b9TkF; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 16:09:28 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=U4oBU4bu c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=n5n_aSjo0skA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=xskcdSivAAAA:8 a=PG3ZnjZRTHLHWewMECsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=EH38xv1xwhkA:10 a=1UrHcX4zoTIA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 a=B8SJYIqRPU5_XtF5Z38x:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To; bh=raXvhC7bEWca4j3dDPelTu3svdbTriFOP8awRNfp6Hw=; b=YxQJ+s5i9At7SuxKTV8vCr4Q2XO/GUrOcnYwzzZnEaHT7Z++sdO+BYIVSdWy1/GYra5IPeFlKu xQqb71d47iflBLj4MqOglU9OBOAkT3bWYT/+Ss/Zv1DWthhqxDvOpo; Received: from pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.85.191]:42872 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1cGwCM-0003Qf-5B for tools-development@ietf.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 16:09:26 -0700 To: IETF Tools Development From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <3228ecfe-1926-c338-6083-8d3fb12fe2ce@labn.net> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:09:24 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.85.191 X-Exim-ID: 1cGwCM-0003Qf-5B X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.85.191]:42872 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Differences in thread view in archives X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 23:14:08 -0000 Hi, I took a quick look at the thread view in the new archive tool and am a bit confused at what I'm seeing. I'm comparing: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=netconf&gbt=1&q=netmod+wg and https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netmod/current/threads.html The latter provides threading that is pretty aligned with what you'd see in a mailer thread view (and what folks used to see). The former has threading for some messages but not others, as an example check out how the following shows in both: * /Subject/: Re: [netmod] [Netconf] WG adoption poll draft-nmdsdt-netmod-revised-datastores-00 * /From/: Andy Bierman > * /Date/: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:51:50 -0800 Is the current view expected behavior and if so can someone explain what's going on. (If not, where's the right place to open a ticket?) Thanks, Lou From nobody Tue Dec 13 15:33:02 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B1A129C32 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:33:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pBCWMk4bfcyk for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8A42129C01 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017DE1E565B; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:32:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wubftaKYtIBD; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.128.230] (50-248-196-145-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.248.196.145]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3A201E5659; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:32:01 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.1 \(3251\)) From: Ryan Cross In-Reply-To: <3228ecfe-1926-c338-6083-8d3fb12fe2ce@labn.net> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 15:32:58 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <3228ecfe-1926-c338-6083-8d3fb12fe2ce@labn.net> To: Lou Berger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3251) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Differences in thread view in archives X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 23:33:01 -0000 Hi Lou, I would expect the new archive tool to have a thread view more in line = with that displayed in MHonArc. I am not sure why some messages aren=E2=80=99t = being indented but I will investigate. Thank you for reporting this issue.=20 Regards, Ryan > On Dec 13, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I took a quick look at the thread view in the new archive tool and > am a bit confused at what I'm seeing. I'm comparing: >=20 >=20 > = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=3Dnetconf&gbt=3D1&q=3D= netmod+wg >=20 >=20 > and >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netmod/current/threads.html >=20 > The latter provides threading that is pretty aligned with what you'd = see > in a mailer thread view (and what folks used to see). The former has > threading for some messages but not others, as an example check out = how > the following shows in both: >=20 > * /Subject/: Re: [netmod] [Netconf] WG adoption poll > draft-nmdsdt-netmod-revised-datastores-00 > * /From/: Andy Bierman > > * /Date/: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:51:50 -0800 >=20 > Is the current view expected behavior and if so can someone explain > what's going on. (If not, where's the right place to open a ticket?) >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Lou >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Wed Dec 14 06:12:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9729A12969E for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 06:12:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gLHhemymSlxk for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 06:12:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A007A129699 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2016 06:12:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uBEEBrUF010550 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:11:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: Ryan Cross , Lou Berger References: <3228ecfe-1926-c338-6083-8d3fb12fe2ce@labn.net> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 08:11:54 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Differences in thread view in archives X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 14:12:07 -0000 And if you find anything else that should be captured as a ticket, we're currently capturing those issues in the same instance of trac that we're using for the datatracker (the 'report a bug' link on the datatracker will get you there) using the 'MailArchive: User Interface' component. RjS On 12/13/16 5:32 PM, Ryan Cross wrote: > Hi Lou, > > I would expect the new archive tool to have a thread view more in line with that > displayed in MHonArc. I am not sure why some messages aren’t being indented but > I will investigate. Thank you for reporting this issue. > > Regards, > Ryan > >> On Dec 13, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I took a quick look at the thread view in the new archive tool and >> am a bit confused at what I'm seeing. I'm comparing: >> >> >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=netconf&gbt=1&q=netmod+wg >> >> >> and >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netmod/current/threads.html >> >> The latter provides threading that is pretty aligned with what you'd see >> in a mailer thread view (and what folks used to see). The former has >> threading for some messages but not others, as an example check out how >> the following shows in both: >> >> * /Subject/: Re: [netmod] [Netconf] WG adoption poll >> draft-nmdsdt-netmod-revised-datastores-00 >> * /From/: Andy Bierman > >> * /Date/: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:51:50 -0800 >> >> Is the current view expected behavior and if so can someone explain >> what's going on. (If not, where's the right place to open a ticket?) >> >> Thanks, >> >> Lou >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Thu Dec 15 14:47:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64431296BD for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 14:47:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KSnxybA-g6JC for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 14:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1943712953F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 14:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DFF1E566B; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 14:46:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id goHiNsz7wdqF; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 14:46:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.128.230] (50-248-196-145-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.248.196.145]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D91F71E5667; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 14:46:13 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.1 \(3251\)) From: Ryan Cross In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 14:47:20 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <3228ecfe-1926-c338-6083-8d3fb12fe2ce@labn.net> To: Lou Berger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3251) Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Differences in thread view in archives X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 22:47:22 -0000 I identified an issue with some recent messages that were sent to more = then one IETF list not being indented properly in the thread view. This problem = has been resolved. Regards, Ryan > On Dec 13, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Ryan Cross wrote: >=20 > Hi Lou, >=20 > I would expect the new archive tool to have a thread view more in line = with that > displayed in MHonArc. I am not sure why some messages aren=E2=80=99t = being indented but > I will investigate. Thank you for reporting this issue.=20 >=20 > Regards, > Ryan >=20 >> On Dec 13, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> I took a quick look at the thread view in the new archive tool and >> am a bit confused at what I'm seeing. I'm comparing: >>=20 >>=20 >> = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=3Dnetconf&gbt=3D1&q=3D= netmod+wg >>=20 >>=20 >> and >>=20 >> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netmod/current/threads.html >>=20 >> The latter provides threading that is pretty aligned with what you'd = see >> in a mailer thread view (and what folks used to see). The former has >> threading for some messages but not others, as an example check out = how >> the following shows in both: >>=20 >> * /Subject/: Re: [netmod] [Netconf] WG adoption poll >> draft-nmdsdt-netmod-revised-datastores-00 >> * /From/: Andy Bierman > >> * /Date/: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:51:50 -0800 >>=20 >> Is the current view expected behavior and if so can someone explain >> what's going on. (If not, where's the right place to open a ticket?) >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> Lou >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Fri Dec 16 03:11:19 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30220127078 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 03:11:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WUae1rMBiTTz for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 03:11:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.38.55]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EDDCF1299BC for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 03:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13630 invoked by uid 0); 16 Dec 2016 11:11:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2016 11:11:09 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw3 with id LbB51u01D2SSUrH01bB8D4; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 04:11:09 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=G8WPTbU5 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=n5n_aSjo0skA:10 a=jGqiy6jZAAAA:8 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=xskcdSivAAAA:8 a=Y4nq-yODvzMV8eDZ8QEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=EH38xv1xwhkA:10 a=1UrHcX4zoTIA:10 a=jHrLhlbFqA1ZHZAWynec:22 a=Yz9wTY_ffGCQnEDHKrcv:22 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 a=B8SJYIqRPU5_XtF5Z38x:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:CC:To:From; bh=dyPVRybpN8KlRZDY4zEM4omvnvVoaCYmwtN/kWCH8eU=; b=qApVSY3c67V9jRmDD899BY4eR/ Y5nx+C2EBzRX7zOsna610mAZZAekB5xwiBeEmP/cK3Dt93Bj28BfccKN6U3dbAPk0pm3EyB1IlsP5 kwCro2K1hboU19IlFCC4SkF16; Received: from pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.85.191]:38255 helo=[11.4.0.238]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1cHqPp-0004Dq-Mf; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 04:11:05 -0700 From: Lou Berger To: Ryan Cross Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 06:11:04 -0500 Message-ID: <15907540540.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: References: <3228ecfe-1926-c338-6083-8d3fb12fe2ce@labn.net> User-Agent: AquaMail/1.7.1-88 (build: 100700100) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.85.191 X-Exim-ID: 1cHqPp-0004Dq-Mf X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-85-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([11.4.0.238]) [100.15.85.191]:38255 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: Cc: IETF Tools Development Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Differences in thread view in archives X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 11:11:18 -0000 Thanks ryan. It looks better. The "next" navigation is broken at least in mobile view 1) go to wg 2) select thread view 3) select last message 4) navigate to message via arrow Question: is there a reason to being able to select message without navigating the link? 5) select thread view at bottom of message 6) select next at bottom of list Result is you end up back on the same page. Lou On December 15, 2016 5:47:50 PM Ryan Cross wrote: > I identified an issue with some recent messages that were sent to more then one > IETF list not being indented properly in the thread view. This problem has > been resolved. > > Regards, > Ryan > >> On Dec 13, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Ryan Cross wrote: >> >> Hi Lou, >> >> I would expect the new archive tool to have a thread view more in line with >> that >> displayed in MHonArc. I am not sure why some messages aren’t being >> indented but >> I will investigate. Thank you for reporting this issue. >> >> Regards, >> Ryan >> >>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I took a quick look at the thread view in the new archive tool and >>> am a bit confused at what I'm seeing. I'm comparing: >>> >>> >>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=netconf&gbt=1&q=netmod+wg >>> >>> >>> and >>> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netmod/current/threads.html >>> >>> The latter provides threading that is pretty aligned with what you'd see >>> in a mailer thread view (and what folks used to see). The former has >>> threading for some messages but not others, as an example check out how >>> the following shows in both: >>> >>> * /Subject/: Re: [netmod] [Netconf] WG adoption poll >>> draft-nmdsdt-netmod-revised-datastores-00 >>> * /From/: Andy Bierman > >>> * /Date/: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:51:50 -0800 >>> >>> Is the current view expected behavior and if so can someone explain >>> what's going on. (If not, where's the right place to open a ticket?) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Lou >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > From nobody Fri Dec 16 06:10:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BC1129DA8 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 06:10:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9ZWAis3ptHEu for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 06:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9C74129C69 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 06:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local ([47.186.56.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uBGEA6Rc018412 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 08:10:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.56.40] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <3228ecfe-1926-c338-6083-8d3fb12fe2ce@labn.net> <15907540540.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <7cd0a50d-4eca-a447-2000-9d02a1306d88@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 08:10:08 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15907540540.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Differences in thread view in archives X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 14:10:18 -0000 On 12/16/16 5:11 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > Thanks ryan. It looks better. > > The "next" navigation is broken at least in mobile view > > 1) go to wg > 2) select thread view > 3) select last message > 4) navigate to message via arrow You can go straight to the arrow - you don't have to select the message first. > Question: is there a reason to being able to select message without > navigating the link? Yes - rapid scanning of messages in the preview pane below. Using the up and down arrows on your keyboard will go from message to message. (But it looks like this morning, something's not right - reporting the issue to Ryan). > 5) select thread view at bottom of message > 6) select next at bottom of list > > Result is you end up back on the same page. > > Lou > > > On December 15, 2016 5:47:50 PM Ryan Cross wrote: > >> I identified an issue with some recent messages that were sent to >> more then one >> IETF list not being indented properly in the thread view. This >> problem has been resolved. >> >> Regards, >> Ryan >> >>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Ryan Cross wrote: >>> >>> Hi Lou, >>> >>> I would expect the new archive tool to have a thread view more in >>> line with that >>> displayed in MHonArc. I am not sure why some messages aren’t being >>> indented but >>> I will investigate. Thank you for reporting this issue. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ryan >>> >>>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I took a quick look at the thread view in the new archive tool and >>>> am a bit confused at what I'm seeing. I'm comparing: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=netconf&gbt=1&q=netmod+wg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> and >>>> >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netmod/current/threads.html >>>> >>>> The latter provides threading that is pretty aligned with what >>>> you'd see >>>> in a mailer thread view (and what folks used to see). The former has >>>> threading for some messages but not others, as an example check out >>>> how >>>> the following shows in both: >>>> >>>> * /Subject/: Re: [netmod] [Netconf] WG adoption poll >>>> draft-nmdsdt-netmod-revised-datastores-00 >>>> * /From/: Andy Bierman >>> > >>>> * /Date/: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 13:51:50 -0800 >>>> >>>> Is the current view expected behavior and if so can someone explain >>>> what's going on. (If not, where's the right place to open a ticket?) >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Lou >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Tue Dec 20 14:15:21 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAD1129588 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:15:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.903 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.903 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Please let us know if we can provide additional information. Thanks, -Greg www.ietf.org revamp update 2016-12-19 1) Acceptance from Torchbox Recommendation: Acceptance from Torchbox (i.e. payment of final invoice) should be tied = to the deliver of a CMS, site architecture, and page templates that = meets the functional and technical requirements in the SOW. That is: a) Templates and CMS editing system work as designed and meet the needs = of content editors, as determined by the Secretariat. There are = currently several bugs filed with Torchbox that must be resolved before = this is satisfied. See:=20 https://github.com/ietf/www.ietf.org/labels/cms%20bug=20 b) HTML pages produced by the CMS: i) are valid HTML 5 ii) are available by both HTTP and HTTPS iii) comply with Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG)=20 iv) render on a variety of devices as expected The specific tools and methods for confirming the revamped site meets = these criteria should be guided by input from the Community Review = Committee (CRC), and will be finished by a specified date. Notifing the = CRC by 12 January with input and final validation complete by 25 January = seems reasonable. Beyond acceptance from Torchbox, testing will be conducted to ensure the = revamped website content meets functional requirements for key = audiences. These requirements, as specified in the SOW, include the = ability to understand how to complete common tasks, and the number of = clicks needed to reach often used resources. Further detail is provided = in the Community Rollout section below. 2) Performance There are two areas of performance have been identified for further = attention:=20 a) Server resources Concerns about server resource usage by Elastiscearch, have been raised = by AMS. Suggested steps to remedy this: i) Ask Torchbox for guidance regarding configuring Elasticsearch (early = January) ii) AMS will investigate Elasticsearch (early January) b) User experience In parallel, concerns about page load times have been raised. Recent = testing shows that the load times for https://www7.ietf.org have been = much improved. However, we will continue to focus on this as a key area = of improved by: i) optimizing images and other assets used by the CMS ii) investigating further possibilities for user experience improvement = during the community testing phase 3) Content transition update Further content has been transitioned and work continues to complete = creation of new content. Some CMS bugs have created slight further = delays to the schedule. We will conduct a status inventory during the = first week of January to assess next steps. The status of the content = transition can be found here: = https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LCk9Fn2kdeJPNPg5z5yIDmHs8KM_HEKbDS= 4k2PVLNSo/edit?usp=3Dsharing (This is updated nearly daily.) In parallel, documentation is being created for maintaining the content = in the new CMS: = https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jBrml8Ub9TJs_lXg831FivUkLKa4xav8sm2Arc= wMNpI/edit?usp=3Dsharing (This is updated as new kinds tasks are completed, roughly weekly.) 4) Community rollout plans The general approach to rollout remains: a) IETF/IAOC leadership update b) Revampers review c) preview to IETF community d) Task testing with key audience groups e) Testing with IETF Community The project is still on track to complete rollout to the IETF community = before IETF 98. 5) 2017 development and maintenance During the testing and rollout process, requested feature enhancements = will be collected. For the current list, see: https://github.com/ietf/www.ietf.org/labels/enhancement A particular focus will be on ensuring the IETF Wagtail installation = remains on the current stable production release version. There is currently a modest budget allocated for 2017 to anticipate = further development requests for Torchbox. The feature requests should = be prioritized and by the Tools team to match the highest value = improvements to the available resources.= From nobody Thu Dec 22 07:55:23 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E8E12964E for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 07:55:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uWy_6Nb6-hWO for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 07:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CDA312941A for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 07:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0793002C3 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:45:03 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id y21k_ggOkrKj for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:45:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26FC9300098 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:45:02 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:52:27 -0500 To: IETF Tools Development Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] session_request_developers@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 15:55:21 -0000 When a WG Chair requests a meeting session, the datatracker sends a note = to the WG mail list as session_request_developers@ietf.org. 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