From nobody Thu May 2 11:14:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89974120099 for ; Thu, 2 May 2019 11:14:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cert.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PDzcN1Yo9zW2 for ; Thu, 2 May 2019 11:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from taper.sei.cmu.edu (taper.sei.cmu.edu [147.72.252.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D909012008F for ; Thu, 2 May 2019 11:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delp.sei.cmu.edu (delp.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.21.31]) by taper.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id x42IEKb1012178; Thu, 2 May 2019 14:14:20 -0400 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 taper.sei.cmu.edu x42IEKb1012178 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cert.org; s=yc2bmwvrj62m; t=1556820860; bh=JnY5I3F2qij6ARbUqobUG2fRDnQEieiYOYRbTyOkv1I=; h=From:To:CC:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=lJJZvQsXh6feH1jOoGYlT23WlQV29+rLBgqlraDMB+7HinUX95VnxZTWYUTFsCB9O j0ZGl56hmP2Tx3mZUczZdoR+dFmZfUizrqinOG1x8C2nCAZPgGjslzmPMe1IUVKim4 A/NATymczZ/cbMB5+7xOewgPDOiCRDpxVi5EuqkU= Received: from CASSINA.ad.sei.cmu.edu (cassina.ad.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.28.249]) by delp.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id x42IEJIM012152; Thu, 2 May 2019 14:14:19 -0400 Received: from MARATHON.ad.sei.cmu.edu ([10.64.28.250]) by CASSINA.ad.sei.cmu.edu ([10.64.28.249]) with mapi id 14.03.0439.000; Thu, 2 May 2019 14:14:19 -0400 From: Roman Danyliw To: Robert Sparks CC: Roman Danyliw , "tools-development@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Getting a list of recently adopted document Thread-Index: AdTv+exbqVZk8X+lSBOvVuGeujdpPQAlAYiABCEs/pA= Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 18:14:18 +0000 Message-ID: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B33530E1@marathon> References: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B33272D6@marchand> <64836652-8818-3aed-e807-f20c92e85e83@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <64836652-8818-3aed-e807-f20c92e85e83@nostrum.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.64.22.6] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Getting a list of recently adopted document X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 May 2019 18:14:24 -0000 Hi Rob! Sorry for the long delay. I missed you response. You have it right. The interest would be for the IETF WG stream only. Roman > -----Original Message----- > From: TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT [mailto:tools-development-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Robert Sparks > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:43 AM > To: tools-development@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Getting a list of recently adopted > document >=20 > It would not be hard to build, and Spencer gave us very early warning on = the > idea, so it's mostly thought through already. >=20 > But we need to be sure we build what's really wanted, and advertise it > correctly. >=20 > As stated, you want this list to be only _IETF_ WG adoptions, correct? > We would not include IRTF RG adoptions (or IAB or any other stream), > correct? >=20 > RjS >=20 > On 4/11/19 6:29 AM, Roman Danyliw wrote: > > Hi Tools Team! > > > > I'm helping Greg Wood launch an "IETF Notifications of Emerging Work" > project. The thinking is we'd like to have a way to easily summarize new > work the IETF is starting. To make this tractable, "new work" has been > defined as all of the drafts that have been recently adopted per a given = look- > back period by a WG (i.e., draft-ietf--*-00). > > > > The channels in which this would be summarized/announced is yet to be > determined, but the raw data required per -00 draft is the draft name, WG= , > title, and abstract. > > > > Doing this manually wouldn't be feasible, so we were looking for assist= ance > with automation. 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Alissa > On Apr 30, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Portia Wenze-Danley = wrote: >=20 > Hi Russ, >=20 > I have a conflict and must attend the LLC Board's F2F retreat on May = 7-8. =20 > ________________________________ > Portia Wenze-Danley > IETF Administration LLC Executive Director (Interim) > (Formerly IETF Administrative Director (IAD)=09 > Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) > pwdanley@ietf.org >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Apr 30, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Russ Housley > wrote: >>=20 >> Tools Call Agenda -- 7 May 2019 at 1:00 Eastern >>=20 >>=20 >> JOIN WEBEX MEETING >> = https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm440dd848726339c03e605b9956e38bac= = >> Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 >> Meeting password: tools >>=20 >> JOIN BY PHONE >> 1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free number (US/Canada)=20 >> 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) >> Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 >> Meeting password: tools >>=20 >>=20 >> 1. Datatracker Projects >> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >> -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN >> - Python2 to Python3 transition -- Henrik >> - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA -- Robert >> - IRSG balloting -- Proposals due on 16 May 2019 >>=20 >> 2. Community & Other Projects >> - Redirect cleanup after deploying Wagtail 2.0 -- Glen >> - Transfer operations of guides.ietf.org the Secretariat -- Robert >>=20 >> 3. RFC Services Projects >> - RPC testing of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Robert >> - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather >> - Rendering errata in more useful way -- Portia >> -- Proposals evaluated; winner recommended >>=20 >> 4. Server Infrastructure >> - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Henrik and Alexey >> -- When do we expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever? >>=20 >> 5. YANG Catalog >> - yangcatalog.org transfered to the IETF Trust -- Eric and Glen >> - Operations transferes to the IETF Secretariat -- Eric and Glen >> - Adding features from the yangvalidator project -- Eric >>=20 >> 6. Parking Lot >> - Discontinue pipermail email archives -- Robert and Ryan >> -- MHonArc URLs have be redirected to mail-archive >>=20 >> 7. AOB >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --Apple-Mail=_7991162C-37F0-4311-A8E8-FF6512678829 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Same = here.
Alissa

On Apr 30, 2019, at 4:36 PM, = Portia Wenze-Danley <pwdanley@ietf.org> wrote:

Hi Russ,

I have a conflict and = must attend the LLC Board's F2F retreat on May 7-8.  
________________________________
Portia = Wenze-Danley
IETF = Administration LLC Executive Director (Interim)
(Formerly IETF Administrative = Director (IAD)
Internet = Engineering Task Force (IETF)
pwdanley@ietf.org







On Apr 30, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Russ Housley = <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:

Tools = Call Agenda -- 7 May 2019 at 1:00 Eastern

JOIN WEBEX MEETING
https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm440dd848726339c03e605= b9956e38bac
Meeting number (access code): 640 103 = 570
Meeting password: tools

JOIN BY PHONE
1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free = number (US/Canada)
1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number = (US/Canada)
Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570
Meeting password: tools


1. Datatracker Projects
 - Expected = Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik
=    -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN=
 - Python2 to Python3 transition -- Henrik
 - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA -- = Robert
 - IRSG balloting -- Proposals due on 16 May = 2019

2. Community & Other Projects
 - Redirect cleanup after deploying Wagtail 2.0 -- = Glen
 - Transfer operations of guides.ietf.org the = Secretariat -- Robert

3. RFC Services = Projects
 - RPC testing of new RFC format tools -- = Heather and Robert
 - Security Review of RPC Tools = -- Robert and Heather
 - Rendering errata in more = useful way -- Portia
   -- Proposals = evaluated; winner recommended

4. Server = Infrastructure
 - IESG discussions of DMARC -- = Henrik and Alexey
   -- When do we expect = the next release of OpenARC? Ever?

5. YANG = Catalog
 - yangcatalog.org transfered to the IETF Trust -- Eric and = Glen
 - Operations transferes to the IETF = Secretariat -- Eric and Glen
 - Adding features from = the yangvalidator project -- Eric

6. = Parking Lot
 - Discontinue pipermail email archives = -- Robert and Ryan
   -- MHonArc URLs have = be redirected to mail-archive

7. AOB

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TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development

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= --Apple-Mail=_7991162C-37F0-4311-A8E8-FF6512678829-- From nobody Tue May 7 08:57:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7160D12011D for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 08:57:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OXGSbWt-pqIV for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 08:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1A8E120221 for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 08:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:53079 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hO2TV-0001zl-1l; Tue, 07 May 2019 08:57:50 -0700 To: Russ Housley , IETF Tools Development References: From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 17:57:40 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="w2kpsQ6PjqrPlh7JA1cj3tteLBqxtkUCE" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-development@ietf.org, housley@vigilsec.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 7 May 2019 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 15:57:56 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --w2kpsQ6PjqrPlh7JA1cj3tteLBqxtkUCE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="wlMrAQv4arDACvTexnUKMv2mkrWrxtjtT"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Russ Housley , IETF Tools Development Message-ID: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 7 May 2019 at 1:00 Eastern References: In-Reply-To: --wlMrAQv4arDACvTexnUKMv2mkrWrxtjtT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some notes inline: On 2019-04-30 20:11, Russ Housley wrote: > Tools Call Agenda -- 7 May 2019 at 1:00 Eastern >=20 >=20 > JOIN WEBEX MEETING > https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm440dd848726339c03e605b9956e38= bac > Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 > Meeting password: tools >=20 > JOIN BY PHONE > 1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free number (US/Canada)=20 > 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 > Meeting password: tools >=20 >=20 > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN The PLAN file is up-to-date. One substantial refactoring was released as 6.96.0, splitting out review assignments from review requests. Work is ongoing for the refactoring of DocAlias, which will make it possi= ble to correctly model multi-document BCPs, STDs etc., but it is complicated = by database limitations on unique constraint tables. > - Python2 to Python3 transition -- Henrik This is next up, once the DocAlias / BCP mapping work is done. > - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA -- Robert > - IRSG balloting -- Proposals due on 16 May 2019 >=20 > 2. Community & Other Projects > - Redirect cleanup after deploying Wagtail 2.0 -- Glen > - Transfer operations of guides.ietf.org the Secretariat -- Robert >=20 > 3. RFC Services Projects > - RPC testing of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Robert > - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather > - Rendering errata in more useful way -- Portia > -- Proposals evaluated; winner recommended >=20 > 4. Server Infrastructure > - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Henrik and Alexey The latest I've heard on this was on April 17th, after a nudge sent after= our previous Tools Call. One of the coders have indicated that the reque= sted changes are ready, but I've not gotten confirmation on this actually bein= g checked in and released. I've sent a new nudge to try to get firmer info= =2E > -- When do we expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever? >=20 > 5. YANG Catalog > - yangcatalog.org transfered to the IETF Trust -- Eric and Glen > - Operations transferes to the IETF Secretariat -- Eric and Glen > - Adding features from the yangvalidator project -- Eric >=20 > 6. Parking Lot > - Discontinue pipermail email archives -- Robert and Ryan > -- MHonArc URLs have be redirected to mail-archive >=20 > 7. 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On 2019-04-30 20:11, Russ Housley wrote: > Tools Call Agenda -- 7 May 2019 at 1:00 Eastern > > 5. YANG Catalog > > - yangcatalog.org transfered to the IETF Trust -- Eric and Glen > > - Operations transferes to the IETF Secretariat -- Eric and Glen We have successfully transferred the domain name. Name servers are still pointed to OVH. I'll change the name servers at the same time as we make the change to have the new server go live. From my understanding, Eric and team are still working on the new machine and it is not live yet. They have the token to advise us when to "switch over." We are completed on our side, and happily standing by. 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Tue, 7 May 2019 10:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f50.google.com with SMTP id a10so15716544otl.12 for ; Tue, 07 May 2019 10:33:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXphVkAhdq13f1Iym0mMWsdxB7htdmFLuVxEWn3f5lKnZaLQlkY 1TQI90/oaVM1lS5RInwLkPJ+Nsz+SMkyWKM8Cyg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzjiyeyYymGDpYJLCqR4VEhB1E81IYBDuem3Zlt9B+/ZClhx/ZdOJ1neNg0x1tz9yEMd/Dr9ZFUMWKizJ0H/zY= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:5cc6:: with SMTP id r6mr13920972oti.97.1557250398462; Tue, 07 May 2019 10:33:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Glen Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 10:33:06 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" Cc: IETF Tools Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 7 May 2019 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 17:33:24 -0000 Hello Eric - Thank you for this! Acknowledged, and will proceed! Glen On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 10:30 AM Eric Vyncke (evyncke) w= rote: > > Glen > > You were right to stand by, but, now, the contractor and myself think tha= t yang.amsl.com is ready to become the yangcatalog.org server. > > Please do it around your Tuesday evening time Pacific so if something is = really bad, Miroslav (the contractor) and I can try to fix it our Wednesday= morning time (just a couple of hours after). > > Currently, yang.amsl.com has the latest code, latest data and should be b= etter ;-) > > Thank you for your support > > -=C3=A9ric > > =EF=BB=BFOn 07/05/2019, 18:02, "TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT on behalf of Glen" wrote: > > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 8:57 AM Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > Some notes inline: > > Me too... > > On 2019-04-30 20:11, Russ Housley wrote: > > Tools Call Agenda -- 7 May 2019 at 1:00 Eastern > > > 5. YANG Catalog > > > - yangcatalog.org transfered to the IETF Trust -- Eric and Glen > > > - Operations transferes to the IETF Secretariat -- Eric and Gle= n > > We have successfully transferred the domain name. Name servers are > still pointed to OVH. I'll change the name servers at the same time > as we make the change to have the new server go live. From my > understanding, Eric and team are still working on the new machine and > it is not live yet. They have the token to advise us when to "switc= h > over." We are completed on our side, and happily standing by. > > Glen > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > From nobody Tue May 7 14:21:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E2E12014B for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 14:21:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m1PJ19xTAlEC for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 14:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C52071200EF for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 14:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A341C1C3A for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 14:21:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fjX4FwvB_bpJ for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 14:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D63A1C163C for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 14:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 173.13.91.41 (SquirrelMail authenticated user av1) by www.amsl.com with HTTP; Tue, 7 May 2019 14:21:18 -0700 Message-ID: <8b9734526dfe3919e1fb452e09b7702e.squirrel@www.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 14:21:18 -0700 From: "Amy Vezza" To: tools-development@ietf.org Reply-To: avezza@amsl.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Notes from the May 7 Tools X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 21:21:24 -0000 Hi All, Some short notes from the meeting earlier today. Best regards, Amy Tools Call Agenda -- 7 May 2019 at 1:00 Eastern Notes were taken by Amy Vezza 1. Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN The PLAN file is up-to-date. - Python2 to Python3 transition -- Henrik Next steps: Will work on this once the DocAlias / BCP mapping work is done. - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA -- Robert Robert will be the program manager for this item. IOLA has not started work yet. - IRSG balloting -- Proposals due on 16 May 2019 Proposals are due next week. Will follow-up after the proposals are received. Questions for Datatracker Projects? Heather: How does it relate to XML to RFC. Generation of TXT to v3 is still buggy it looks like? Sent a report about the bug I found. Henrik: Yes, I saw the report. Action Item: Henrik to bug hunt the reported bug to fix. Submissions for v3 documents is now open. Unknown whether people are using it yet. (Report from later on the call: there are currently 8 submissions in the queue submitted in v3). 2. Community & Other Projects - Redirect cleanup after deploying Wagtail 2.0 -- Glen Cleanup of redirects is completed. There have been a few follow-up items, which have been taken care of. - Transfer operations of guides.ietf.org the Secretariat The domain name has been transferred successfully. Name server changes and the new server will go live at the same time. The new machine is still being worked on and is not yet live. Waiting for confirmation to set the time to switch over. Standing by. The Secretariat is prepared to take on whatever configuration is needed. Transfer status is pending a report from Robert. 3. RFC Services Projects - RPC testing of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Robert The tools have been updated. RPC will test the tools. Working on implementation planning, and the timeline of switch over to production. Update to format FAQ. Alice is working on the format tools FAQ. - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather The decision was to postpone this until RPC is using only the v3 tools, instead of trying to test for both v2 and v3. On hold until at least August (Move item to the parking lot?). - Rendering errata in more useful way -- Portia -- Proposals evaluated; winner recommended The contract is being negotiated with the winner. Work is not yet started. 4. Server Infrastructure - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Henrik and Alexey -- When do we expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever? For the move to OpenARC. Henrik sent a nudge mid-April, and another nudge today looking for more information. The code may be done, but not released, still unknown. 5. YANG Catalog - yangcatalog.org transferred to the IETF Trust -- Eric and Glen - Operations transferred to the IETF Secretariat -- Eric and Glen It has code running on it, but all is pointing to the previous server. Should switch the DNS to the Canadian server ASAP. Switchover procedure should be just to switch. Sooner move the better. Glen to switch the DNS this evening Pacific time (May 7). Glen will confirm when completed. Eric Vyncke will check the switch May 8 in the morning (Central European Time) to see if it is working well. Will request rollback if needed. - Adding features from the yangvalidator project -- Eric Work has started on adding the features. IETF Tools want BSD3, its currently working with BSD2. The correct version for BSD3 will be deployed. 6. Parking Lot - Discontinue pipermail email archives -- Robert and Ryan -- MHonArc URLs have be redirected to mail-archive 7. AOB No other business. From nobody Thu May 16 06:31:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027EA120094 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 06:31:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.948 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.948 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DC_IMAGE_SPAM_HTML=0.81, DC_IMAGE_SPAM_TEXT=0.242, DC_PNG_UNO_LARGO=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cert.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W_1_miihlhyJ for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 06:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from taper.sei.cmu.edu (taper.sei.cmu.edu [147.72.252.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B2C1120045 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 06:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from korb.sei.cmu.edu (korb.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.21.30]) by taper.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id x4GDVqE8007912 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:31:52 -0400 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 taper.sei.cmu.edu x4GDVqE8007912 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cert.org; s=yc2bmwvrj62m; t=1558013512; bh=Z9Wc2yxmyTM107rklf4hR3bSH203uj4FPIZF+v/8JL4=; h=From:To:CC:Subject:Date:From; b=YAMgM5LxkvYlZsxbKsyd/27+r6cXypbidTYRyG3EpghcuVBnvG3Mi62mPi5Pu63l2 rA1WWwmBNqSfjeWTkmI1bNPotDKCI+4SpJHmhfasUqTLz7ErH5qbRYE44MqMyWcUsI Y8Uybg/IzJJqv5VwLSPOrUtXp7ncos0FYtXGeB4E= Received: from CASCADE.ad.sei.cmu.edu (cascade.ad.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.28.248]) by korb.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id x4GDVoHB001597 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:31:50 -0400 Received: from MARATHON.ad.sei.cmu.edu ([10.64.28.250]) by CASCADE.ad.sei.cmu.edu ([10.64.28.248]) with mapi id 14.03.0439.000; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:31:50 -0400 From: Roman Danyliw To: "tools-development@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: How do counters reset in the datatracker Thread-Index: AdUBEuo4FoCGVhV0SFan06BVl/vCxg== Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:31:49 +0000 Message-ID: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3367E08@marathon> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.64.22.6] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_002_359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3367E08marathon_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How do counters reset in the datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:31:55 -0000 --_002_359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3367E08marathon_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! At the IESG retreat, there was a confusion in the IESG about how the timer = listed next to the draft (e.g., "for xxx days") in the datatracker is rese= t when a state or sub-state changes (see screenshot). I was asked get clar= ity on the following: ** Which sub-state changes will trigger a reset to 0? ** Which state changes will trigger a reset to 0? 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l4cAAAAASUVORK5CYII= --_002_359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3367E08marathon_-- From nobody Thu May 16 06:36:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07FD120044 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 06:36:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Eop8PivoiLzS for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 06:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 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Danyliw" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.8) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How do counters reset in the datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:36:29 -0000 Roman: When the document moves to a new state, the counter is reset for that = new state. You are not the first AD to inherit a stale document. Russ > On May 16, 2019, at 9:31 AM, Roman Danyliw wrote: >=20 > Hi! >=20 > At the IESG retreat, there was a confusion in the IESG about how the = timer listed next to the draft (e.g., "for xxx days") in the = datatracker is reset when a state or sub-state changes (see screenshot). = I was asked get clarity on the following: >=20 > ** Which sub-state changes will trigger a reset to 0? >=20 > ** Which state changes will trigger a reset to 0? >=20 > Thanks, > Roman From nobody Thu May 16 06:40:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C4F12008C for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 06:40:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cert.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uc_0NCkujbT7 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 06:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veto.sei.cmu.edu (veto.sei.cmu.edu [147.72.252.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0834120044 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 06:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from korb.sei.cmu.edu (korb.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.21.30]) by veto.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id x4GDeF6p028574; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:40:15 -0400 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 veto.sei.cmu.edu x4GDeF6p028574 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cert.org; s=yc2bmwvrj62m; t=1558014015; bh=VaytxoWvKTOGlNzFH5BgPCwMRX3xR+LNBhKHMr0yAtU=; h=From:To:CC:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=SulS4VJFkQ2YGNAroxdeFDz8FLChnP2Sq6QXXUbDL6F6K2Giiw8ZLQ/YlQBxYs4Ho MYpQJPdXHUv+PlWl/lygqS+lMFxg2ooZNfwa1d3pBFztoEtYe3WxbqtG+dLelUdRTp yY/czs+c95EKZxF35D/cHJtWLCvYVYNsthB9YjUM= Received: from CASSINA.ad.sei.cmu.edu (cassina.ad.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.28.249]) by korb.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id x4GDeDop003463; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:40:13 -0400 Received: from MARATHON.ad.sei.cmu.edu ([10.64.28.250]) by CASSINA.ad.sei.cmu.edu ([10.64.28.249]) with mapi id 14.03.0439.000; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:40:12 -0400 From: Roman Danyliw To: Russ Housley CC: IETF Tools Development , Roman Danyliw Thread-Topic: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How do counters reset in the datatracker Thread-Index: AdUBEuo4FoCGVhV0SFan06BVl/vCxgK+vXOAAAhcSiA= Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:40:12 +0000 Message-ID: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3367E52@marathon> References: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3367E08@marathon> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.64.22.6] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How do counters reset in the datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:40:19 -0000 Hi Russ! > -----Original Message----- > From: Russ Housley [mailto:housley@vigilsec.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 9:36 AM > To: Roman Danyliw > Cc: IETF Tools Development > Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How do counters reset in the > datatracker >=20 > Roman: >=20 > When the document moves to a new state, the counter is reset for that new > state. =20 To be clear -- any change in sub-state will trigger a reset? > You are not the first AD to inherit a stale document. *chuckle* This wasn't me "asking for friend" ;-) Different ADs touted expe= riencing different behaviors but no one wanted to change states on the live= system to find out at the time. Roman > Russ >=20 >=20 > > On May 16, 2019, at 9:31 AM, Roman Danyliw wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > At the IESG retreat, there was a confusion in the IESG about how the ti= mer > listed next to the draft (e.g., "for xxx days") in the datatracker is re= set when > a state or sub-state changes (see screenshot). I was asked get clarity o= n the > following: > > > > ** Which sub-state changes will trigger a reset to 0? > > > > ** Which state changes will trigger a reset to 0? > > > > Thanks, > > Roman From nobody Thu May 16 06:43:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C4A1200A4 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 06:43:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fX4HXpm36X6k for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 06:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3ECE1120094 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 06:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45490300AB9 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:23:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id pQJDa5mgahwI for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:23:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.58.240] (unknown [94.107.234.206]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 023DD3001F1; Thu, 16 May 2019 09:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.8\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3367E52@marathon> Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 09:43:09 -0400 Cc: IETF Tools Development Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3367E08@marathon> <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3367E52@marathon> To: "Roman D. Danyliw" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.8) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How do counters reset in the datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:43:14 -0000 Roman: >> When the document moves to a new state, the counter is reset for that = new >> state. =20 >=20 > To be clear -- any change in sub-state will trigger a reset? My memory is that only the state, not the sub-state, will reset it. I = would have to look at the code to be 100% sure, but that is my memory = from my time as an AD. Russ From nobody Thu May 16 07:23:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EFC120094 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 07:23:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.678 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.678 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 46_ci-tM9P2n for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 07:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4E0B120033 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 07:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.39.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x4GENRa0061692 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 16 May 2019 09:23:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1558016608; bh=R3vXalIvH9BcQQwmI7njjj4HUHGWqXcQ9OE6FwNHUYQ=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ajfHA/4EdfFpMandK3ZpAFjxcMYsbw7hoGvlBL+WPi3D0caGpCBrGl4LfCVLfBITT BfsbQV2onyuOy7kFNNyO/49l61gVi6VScV6zPRthVs0ABIcQpavWFK+PUapzwZjJPB POXTr7i2EkdeD5MTWYz2vluCl3m+XeRCNwgPAXgk= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.39.7] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: Roman Danyliw , "tools-development@ietf.org" References: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3367E08@marathon> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <7fe8c740-90e8-895f-7ef8-321192de6502@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 09:23:27 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3367E08@marathon> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------72040EB5A374518055F20C71" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How do counters reset in the datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 14:23:36 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------72040EB5A374518055F20C71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Roman - Like Russ, I will have to look at the code to give you the exact answer you are looking for, and I hope to do that today or tomorrow. I fear the answer will be "it's complicated". For the moment, I can point to some history. Different ADs over time have had different opinions about what these "since" values should represent. Should it show time since last action, or accrued time in the where it is in the queue? Who is the metric there to help push along? I've occasionally been of the opinion that perhaps we should show state and sub-state staleness separately (as suggested by Adrian in one of the tickets below), but the display does get cluttered... See and RjS On 5/16/19 8:31 AM, Roman Danyliw wrote: > Hi! > > At the IESG retreat, there was a confusion in the IESG about how the timer listed next to the draft (e.g., "for xxx days") in the datatracker is reset when a state or sub-state changes (see screenshot). I was asked get clarity on the following: > > ** Which sub-state changes will trigger a reset to 0? > > ** Which state changes will trigger a reset to 0? > > Thanks, > Roman > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --------------72040EB5A374518055F20C71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Roman -

Like Russ, I will have to look at the code to give you the exact answer you are looking for, and I hope to do that today or tomorrow. I fear the answer will be "it's complicated".

For the moment, I can point to some history. Different ADs over time have had different opinions about what these "since" values should represent. Should it show time since last action, or accrued time in the where it is in the queue? Who is the metric there to help push along? I've occasionally been of the opinion that perhaps we should show state and sub-state staleness separately (as suggested by Adrian in one of the tickets below), but the display does get cluttered...

See

<https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/1371> and

<https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/1372>

RjS


On 5/16/19 8:31 AM, Roman Danyliw wrote:
Hi!

At the IESG retreat, there was a confusion in the IESG about how the timer listed next to the draft  (e.g., "for xxx days") in the datatracker is reset when a state or sub-state changes (see screenshot).  I was asked get clarity on the following:

** Which sub-state changes will trigger a reset to 0?

** Which state changes will trigger a reset to 0?

Thanks,
Roman








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--------------72040EB5A374518055F20C71-- From nobody Thu May 16 08:49:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7861200FC for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 08:49:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.978 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.978 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mXH7AXRWX2kQ for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 08:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D33C120074 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 08:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.39.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x4GFnZuZ075784 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 10:49:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1558021776; bh=U9p2j2cDqO1CG9CXv5J7uVJcDTl6ZJNSY2CdczuMmXM=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=CJxJ3jfBxe8UR4AFGx7ixChSAMh3rq/2YD9WVpLDdYtUf5y1wcJicLf38ShShnEBc WtF77o57p624W1Mj3WMKJi/4bttUVHfmJGJ6wF/3V/b7H7fOOcclyvGikq+B/UpLT+ kot2aCXRiz4F0Ql4So1VU1LGvdKStZbTkyJP5FVs= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.39.7] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3367E08@marathon> <7fe8c740-90e8-895f-7ef8-321192de6502@nostrum.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <2404589b-6eca-5524-f50f-0e26daca0b45@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 10:49:34 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7fe8c740-90e8-895f-7ef8-321192de6502@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------48BC195C2689199DB45C7BEA" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How do counters reset in the datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 15:49:39 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------48BC195C2689199DB45C7BEA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So the direct answer is simpler than I expected. It is the last change in iesg state (or the date iesg-evaluation started). The relevant code is here: at line 168. RjS On 5/16/19 9:23 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > > Hi Roman - > > Like Russ, I will have to look at the code to give you the exact > answer you are looking for, and I hope to do that today or tomorrow. I > fear the answer will be "it's complicated". > > For the moment, I can point to some history. Different ADs over time > have had different opinions about what these "since" values should > represent. Should it show time since last action, or accrued time in > the where it is in the queue? Who is the metric there to help push > along? I've occasionally been of the opinion that perhaps we should > show state and sub-state staleness separately (as suggested by Adrian > in one of the tickets below), but the display does get cluttered... > > See > > and > > > > RjS > > > On 5/16/19 8:31 AM, Roman Danyliw wrote: >> Hi! >> >> At the IESG retreat, there was a confusion in the IESG about how the timer listed next to the draft (e.g., "for xxx days") in the datatracker is reset when a state or sub-state changes (see screenshot). I was asked get clarity on the following: >> >> ** Which sub-state changes will trigger a reset to 0? >> >> ** Which state changes will trigger a reset to 0? >> >> Thanks, >> Roman >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --------------48BC195C2689199DB45C7BEA Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

So the direct answer is simpler than I expected. It is the last change in iesg state (or the date iesg-evaluation started).

The relevant code is here:

<https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/ietf/doc/templatetags/ballot_icon.py#L168>

at line 168.

RjS

On 5/16/19 9:23 AM, Robert Sparks wrote:

Hi Roman -

Like Russ, I will have to look at the code to give you the exact answer you are looking for, and I hope to do that today or tomorrow. I fear the answer will be "it's complicated".

For the moment, I can point to some history. Different ADs over time have had different opinions about what these "since" values should represent. Should it show time since last action, or accrued time in the where it is in the queue? Who is the metric there to help push along? I've occasionally been of the opinion that perhaps we should show state and sub-state staleness separately (as suggested by Adrian in one of the tickets below), but the display does get cluttered...

See

<https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/1371> and

<https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/1372>

RjS


On 5/16/19 8:31 AM, Roman Danyliw wrote:
Hi!

At the IESG retreat, there was a confusion in the IESG about how the timer listed next to the draft  (e.g., "for xxx days") in the datatracker is reset when a state or sub-state changes (see screenshot).  I was asked get clarity on the following:

** Which sub-state changes will trigger a reset to 0?

** Which state changes will trigger a reset to 0?

Thanks,
Roman








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Thanks for finding the code and the tickets. https://trac.tools.ietf= .org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/1371 seems to be the related issue/enhancement. I'll talk it through with them, but the interest was around the following s= tates: "AD Evaluation::AD Followup" "AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed" "IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed" "IESG Evaluation::AD Followup" Per the question of metrics and motivation, (one of the) identified drivers= was to implicitly distinguish between waiting on document authors (Revised= ID Needed) vs. waiting on AD/IESG (AD Followup) I'll get back to you, Roman From: TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT [mailto:tools-development-bounces@ietf.org] On Beha= lf Of Robert Sparks Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:50 AM To: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How do counters reset in the datatracker So the direct answer is simpler than I expected. It is the last change in i= esg state (or the date iesg-evaluation started). The relevant code is here: at line 168. RjS On 5/16/19 9:23 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: Hi Roman - Like Russ, I will have to look at the code to give you the exact answer you= are looking for, and I hope to do that today or tomorrow. I fear the answe= r will be "it's complicated". For the moment, I can point to some history. Different ADs over time have h= ad different opinions about what these "since" values should represent. Sho= uld it show time since last action, or accrued time in the where it is in t= he queue? Who is the metric there to help push along? I've occasionally bee= n of the opinion that perhaps we should show state and sub-state staleness = separately (as suggested by Adrian in one of the tickets below), but the di= splay does get cluttered... See and RjS On 5/16/19 8:31 AM, Roman Danyliw wrote: Hi! At the IESG retreat, there was a confusion in the IESG about how the timer = listed next to the draft (e.g., "for xxx days") in the datatracker is rese= t when a state or sub-state changes (see screenshot). I was asked get clar= ity on the following: ** Which sub-state changes will trigger a reset to 0? ** Which state changes will trigger a reset to 0? Thanks, Roman _______________________________________________ TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development _______________________________________________ TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --_000_359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B336955Fmarathon_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ack.  Thanks for finding the cod= e and the tickets.  https://tr= ac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/1371 seems to be the related issu= e/enhancement.

 

I’ll talk it through with them,= but the interest was around the following states:

 

"AD Evaluation::AD Followup"= ;

"AD Evaluation::Revised I-D Need= ed"

"IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Ne= eded"

"IESG Evaluation::AD Followup&qu= ot; 

 

Per the question of metrics and motiv= ation, (one of the) identified drivers was to implicitly distinguish betwee= n waiting on document authors (Revised ID Needed) vs. waiting on AD/IESG (AD Followup)

 

I’ll get back to you,

Roman

 

From: TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT [mailto:tools-development-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sparks
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:50 AM
To: tools-development@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] How do counters reset in the datatr= acker

 

So the direct answer is simpler than I expected. It is the last change i= n iesg state (or the date iesg-evaluation started).

The relevant code is here:

&= lt;https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/ietf/doc/template= tags/ballot_icon.py#L168>

at line 168.

 

RjS

 

On 5/16/19 9:23 AM, Robert Sparks wrote:<= /p>

Hi Roman -

Like Russ, I will have to look at the code to give you the exact answer = you are looking for, and I hope to do that today or tomorrow. I fear the an= swer will be "it's complicated".

For the moment, I can point to some history. Different ADs over time hav= e had different opinions about what these "since" values should r= epresent. Should it show time since last action, or accrued time in the whe= re it is in the queue? Who is the metric there to help push along? I've occasionally been of the opinion that perhaps we = should show state and sub-state staleness separately (as suggested by Adria= n in one of the tickets below), but the display does get cluttered...<= /o:p>

See

<htt= ps://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/1371> and

<htt= ps://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/1372>

RjS

 

On 5/16/19 8:31 AM, Roman Danyliw wrote:<= /p> 

Hi!
 
At the IESG retreat, there was a confusion in the IESG about how the t=
imer listed next to the draft  (e.g., "for xxx days") in the=
 datatracker is reset when a state or sub-state changes (see screenshot).&n=
bsp; I was asked get clarity on the following:
 
** Which sub-state changes will trigger a reset to 0?
 
** Which state changes will trigger a reset to 0?
 
Thanks,
Roman
 
 
 
 
 
 



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What I'd heard from Spencer was that we'd have a new list and other things could feed off that list. Do we need more? If not, has the IESG chosen a list name? RjS On 5/2/19 1:14 PM, Roman Danyliw wrote: > Hi Rob! > > Sorry for the long delay. I missed you response. > > You have it right. The interest would be for the IETF WG stream only. > > Roman > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT [mailto:tools-development-bounces@ietf.org] >> On Behalf Of Robert Sparks >> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:43 AM >> To: tools-development@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Getting a list of recently adopted >> document >> >> It would not be hard to build, and Spencer gave us very early warning on the >> idea, so it's mostly thought through already. >> >> But we need to be sure we build what's really wanted, and advertise it >> correctly. >> >> As stated, you want this list to be only _IETF_ WG adoptions, correct? >> We would not include IRTF RG adoptions (or IAB or any other stream), >> correct? >> >> RjS >> >> On 4/11/19 6:29 AM, Roman Danyliw wrote: >>> Hi Tools Team! >>> >>> I'm helping Greg Wood launch an "IETF Notifications of Emerging Work" >> project. The thinking is we'd like to have a way to easily summarize new >> work the IETF is starting. To make this tractable, "new work" has been >> defined as all of the drafts that have been recently adopted per a given look- >> back period by a WG (i.e., draft-ietf--*-00). >>> The channels in which this would be summarized/announced is yet to be >> determined, but the raw data required per -00 draft is the draft name, WG, >> title, and abstract. >>> Doing this manually wouldn't be feasible, so we were looking for assistance >> with automation. How far off is such a regular report from something that >> already exists? >>> Roman >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Thu May 16 12:05:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD9B12024F for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 12:05:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, 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<359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B33272D6@marchand> <64836652-8818-3aed-e807-f20c92e85e83@nostrum.com> <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B33530E1@marathon> <0a18ded2-8839-a8b2-dc84-b732beed1d61@nostrum.com> <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3369673@marathon> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <540975e1-681a-4039-cec9-a6fdfc9df55d@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 14:39:38 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <359EC4B99E040048A7131E0F4E113AFC01B3369673@marathon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Getting a list of recently adopted document X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 19:39:47 -0000 On 5/16/19 2:05 PM, Roman Danyliw wrote: > Hi Robert! > > Greg has the vision here. I thought it was more of a report that would be cherry-picked into other channels like Twitter, the web-site. I didn't think it was another mailing list. > > Greg: right? I don't think we discussed how this information would be delivered. Alternatives include a subscription feed or direct email to some address. > > Roman > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robert Sparks [mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com] >> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 2:41 PM >> To: Roman Danyliw >> Cc: tools-development@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Getting a list of recently adopted >> document >> >> Another thread to pick up - >> >> Have you decided on the "channels" below? What I'd heard from Spencer >> was that we'd have a new list and other things could feed off that list. >> Do we need more? If not, has the IESG chosen a list name? >> >> RjS >> >> >> On 5/2/19 1:14 PM, Roman Danyliw wrote: >>> Hi Rob! >>> >>> Sorry for the long delay. I missed you response. >>> >>> You have it right. The interest would be for the IETF WG stream only. >>> >>> Roman >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT [mailto:tools-development- >> bounces@ietf.org] >>>> On Behalf Of Robert Sparks >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:43 AM >>>> To: tools-development@ietf.org >>>> Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Getting a list of recently adopted >>>> document >>>> >>>> It would not be hard to build, and Spencer gave us very early warning >>>> on the idea, so it's mostly thought through already. >>>> >>>> But we need to be sure we build what's really wanted, and advertise >>>> it correctly. >>>> >>>> As stated, you want this list to be only _IETF_ WG adoptions, correct? >>>> We would not include IRTF RG adoptions (or IAB or any other stream), >>>> correct? >>>> >>>> RjS >>>> >>>> On 4/11/19 6:29 AM, Roman Danyliw wrote: >>>>> Hi Tools Team! >>>>> >>>>> I'm helping Greg Wood launch an "IETF Notifications of Emerging Work" >>>> project. The thinking is we'd like to have a way to easily summarize >>>> new work the IETF is starting. To make this tractable, "new work" >>>> has been defined as all of the drafts that have been recently adopted >>>> per a given look- back period by a WG (i.e., draft-ietf--*-00). >>>>> The channels in which this would be summarized/announced is yet to >>>>> be >>>> determined, but the raw data required per -00 draft is the draft >>>> name, WG, title, and abstract. >>>>> Doing this manually wouldn't be feasible, so we were looking for >>>>> assistance >>>> with automation. How far off is such a regular report from something >>>> that already exists? >>>>> Roman >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Thu May 16 12:48:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324BD1200B7 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 12:48:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, 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(Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4EA95300415; Sun, 26 May 2019 13:11:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 13:30:38 -0400 Cc: IESG , IETF Tools Development To: IETF Chair X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Team Report -- 26 May 2019 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 17:39:16 -0000 Tools Team Report -- 26 May 2019 1. Datatracker Projects - The plan was recently updated. -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN -- One thing to highlight is the increased the priority of the transition from Python 2 to Python 3. This increased priority is because Python 2 is being officially deprecated, and it will not receive maintenance starting January 2020. - A contract for Meeting Application Improvements was awarded to IOLA. Work will begin shortly. - An RFP for IRSG balloting was released and then the period to bid was extended to 4 June 2019. We expect work to begin in June 2019. 2. Community & Other Projects - The latest website deliverable from Torchbox is complete, including the cleanup of messy redirects between Wagtail and Apache. - Handling of 404 on the Wagtail website was improved, avoiding some problems that could occur with dynamic links. - The Tools Team and the Secretariat are working on a plan for the best way to handle static plaintext pages, such as appeals, appeal responses, and implementation reports. Current thinking is to manage these outside Wagtail, but the discussion is still ongoing. 3. RFC Services Projects - Support for the v3 schema has been enabled for I-D submission, and now the IESG needs to make a policy decision about when I-Ds in the new format can be submitted to the IESG for publication on the IETF stream. - The RFC Production Center continues to test the new format tools. - The Tools Team has a Statement of Work for the security of the tools used by the RFC Production Center. The new format tools will be reviewed once the tools related to the old format are put in mothballs. - A contract for rendering errata in a more useful was awarded to Soaring Hawk Consulting; work began in May 2019. 4. Server Infrastructure - The custom DMARC-handling software was deployed for all mail lists in June 2018, but there is a desire to move away from the custom software to ARC. The ARC software cannot be configured to handle just a few of our mail lists. Requirements were provided to the ARC developers, but so far, they have not offered a release date. Alexey continues to try to get a response from the ARC developers, but so far we are only getting silence. This has not changed in many months; maybe we will be using our custom code forever. - The guides.ietf.org has been deployed in its own container. In a few weeks we expect to move it to hardware controlled by the Secretariat. This experiment is allowing the Tools Team to determine whether other services can be containerized and put "in the cloud". 5. YANG Catalog - Operation of the yangcatalog.org was to transferred to the IETF Secretariat. A few significant things to highlight: -- The yangcatalog.org service is running on different hardware than ietf.org; it is on a server in Canada. This placement is allowing the Tools Team to determine whether other services can be containerized and put "in the cloud".