From nobody Mon Sep 9 07:02:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D60612025D; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 07:02:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.997 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.997 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nohats.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IxnB-p48attm; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 07:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nohats.ca (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:2a03:6000:1004:1::68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10B8E120047; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 07:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46Rqc56271z1K0; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 16:02:29 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nohats.ca; s=default; t=1568037749; bh=1v7mUMBfgVpchFoGsNP+Pcl57W95EMfgKtU3CYQRRXM=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=TyyJttkzRKD7g+LaSxXwDHl94AEsOVh7x5HykEmrEY28rzhJSAMRQDiQGG2ujp35J HkxX8PMqiEvsBIVAmR78owX3GcwmAPppUfS0zTOYZwMnhzpBfc5VoFRhKWhYv7Mi4b vCwsuCOsNGUKPtZpPQ1bTyinZGpNQ7QSvCyNhUKk= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.nohats.ca Received: from mx.nohats.ca ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iTMVytkC8wRV; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 16:02:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 16:02:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 786C6933; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:02:26 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 bofh.nohats.ca 786C6933 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7B54001699; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:02:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Wouters To: Willem Toorop cc: dnsop , tools-development@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <97f8b8fb-91ad-ca74-b65b-d82698517203@nlnetlabs.nl> Message-ID: References: <156802477017.28268.17780089460480647573@ietfa.amsl.com> <86ff56cd-c936-0a81-b276-f4fd61635c7f@nlnetlabs.nl> <97f8b8fb-91ad-ca74-b65b-d82698517203@nlnetlabs.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] tools issue? was Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 14:02:34 -0000 On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, Willem Toorop wrote: > No, Client IP is still included in *Server* Cookie generation, just not > in Client Cookie construction. So the re-user from different network > protection is still there. Ohh, I misunderstood that. Perhaps note this down in the to be Security Section :) >> I cannot see a diff because you didn't instruct the data tracker that >> this adopted document continues from the individual submission :( > > Oh, sorry. I indicated that it replaced the previous draft (and > Donald's) that is not correct? That normally ensures the datatracker does the tracking and the diffs, but it does not look like that happened for this document. It appears as a fresh submit without any history. Even weirder, it seems that the old document indeed got the update reference: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sury-toorop-dnsop-server-cookies-00 but the new document does not link back to the old one and misses the diff. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00 I CC:ed the tools team on this who might be able to see/fix what happened? Paul From nobody Mon Sep 9 07:19:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D492C120801 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 07:19:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N6NCAuNQ2cqq for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 07:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E752F1207FF for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 07:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5743F300B15 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:19:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id QSds7RZoR89H for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (unknown [138.88.156.37]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 294BA3005D5; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:19:51 -0400 Cc: Willem Toorop , dnsop , IETF Tools Development Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <156802477017.28268.17780089460480647573@ietfa.amsl.com> <86ff56cd-c936-0a81-b276-f4fd61635c7f@nlnetlabs.nl> <97f8b8fb-91ad-ca74-b65b-d82698517203@nlnetlabs.nl> To: Paul Wouters X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] tools issue? was Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 14:19:57 -0000 Paul: The replaces and replaced-by information comes from the submitter. In = this case: Set submitter to "Willem Toorop ", replaces = to draft-sury-toorop-dnsop-server-cookies, = draft-eastlake-dnsop-server-cookies >> Oh, sorry. I indicated that it replaced the previous draft (and >> Donald's) that is not correct? >=20 > That normally ensures the datatracker does the tracking and the diffs, > but it does not look like that happened for this document. It appears > as a fresh submit without any history. Even weirder, it seems that the > old document indeed got the update reference: >=20 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sury-toorop-dnsop-server-cookies-00 >=20 > but the new document does not link back to the old one and misses the > diff. >=20 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00 >=20 > I CC:ed the tools team on this who might be able to see/fix what = happened? It looks like there are four drafts in the replaced-by history: draft-sury-toorop-dns-cookies-algorithms draft-sury-toorop-dnsop-server-cookies draft-eastlake-dnsop-server-cookies draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies The history tab of draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies shows all four, = allowing the comparison of the last one to any of the earlier ones. Russ From nobody Mon Sep 9 07:41:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9100B12008B for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 07:41:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1TFHWlAKq2A9 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 07:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 455B2120033 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 07:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDDD300AF3 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:41:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id smfZiUwxjH9w for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (unknown [138.88.156.37]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 541E63005D5 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:41:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Message-Id: <57225470-D9D0-4066-91D8-26BCF66C67D6@vigilsec.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:41:35 -0400 To: IETF Tools Development X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 10 September 2019 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 14:41:40 -0000 Tools Call Agenda -- 10 September 2019 at 1:00 Eastern JOIN WEBEX MEETING https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m440dd848726339c03e605b9956e38bac Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 Meeting password: tools JOIN BY PHONE 1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free number (US/Canada) 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 Meeting password: tools 1. Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN - Python2 to Python3 transition -- Henrik - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA -- Robert - Datatracker maintenance by DashCare -- Robert - IRSG balloting -- Robert 2. Community & Other Projects - WWW search to provide additional pointers -- Greg -- Give pointers to datatracker and mailarchive 3. RFC Services Projects - RPC testing of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Robert - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather - Rendering errata in more useful way -- Robert -- How will it be deployed on rfc-editor.org? 4. Server Infrastructure - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Henrik and Alexey -- When do we expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever? 5. YANG Catalog - Putting yangcatalog.org in a Docker container -- Robert - Adding features from the yangvalidator project -- Eric 6. SustainIETF.org - It redirects to ietf.org 7. Parking Lot - Search over www, datatracker, and mailarchive 8. AOB From nobody Mon Sep 9 08:33:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615C71200B5 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 08:33:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.979 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.979 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mR6WW2ZwV5Wd for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 08:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 215A812008B for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 08:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x89FXfjJ004907 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:33:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1568043223; bh=enF8sCKcujAoFeJKyI0D86EFq4tOoh9zerr23MIlAzg=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=FrKBGeOB9e/7QArjlkYh+au/okogM3vL+3QUtyTwcfXs8m3x23/iJ1qknhWX6W+IC Gk3aQMV+c1GAGv9sZsMe/KKA4zbha1hnzlEL9fh7PE83P4t9UiItwkdwkD0abXS4qU I9oILpQv0eOJ1IoRRwqK8oq5dPgIL9w4mZ/3Dyxo= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: tools-development@ietf.org References: <57225470-D9D0-4066-91D8-26BCF66C67D6@vigilsec.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <4b712824-1ce0-6a47-d512-685c11aac67b@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:33:41 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <57225470-D9D0-4066-91D8-26BCF66C67D6@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 10 September 2019 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 15:33:46 -0000 My notes for the call. On 9/9/19 9:41 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > Tools Call Agenda -- 10 September 2019 at 1:00 Eastern > > > JOIN WEBEX MEETING > https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m440dd848726339c03e605b9956e38bac > Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 > Meeting password: tools > > JOIN BY PHONE > 1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free number (US/Canada) > 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 > Meeting password: tools > > > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN Please note 6.101.0 at https://datatracker.ietf.org/release > - Python2 to Python3 transition -- Henrik > - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA -- Robert We met with IOLA on Aug 21. They indicated that they were still backlogged and intended to start late Sep/ early Oct. I have a query out to IOLA for an update. > - Datatracker maintenance by DashCare -- Robert We had a kick-off call for the review tool improvement project with DashCare on Aug 19. The developer is off to a quick start with many improvements already committed, showing a quickly obtained and very solid understanding of the datatracker overall. > - IRSG balloting -- Robert Akayla had a slow start on the IRSG balloting project, but is now making regular progress. We expect the project to be substantially complete before IETF106 in November. > > 2. Community & Other Projects > - WWW search to provide additional pointers -- Greg > -- Give pointers to datatracker and mailarchive The www project got a lot of attention from me this month, with a release (v0.9.7) that moved the IESG statement to live under the IESG pages instead of with the blog pages. The site also had some significant performance issues that took time to diagnose and address. While diagnosing, we identified several major changes that need to be made to the way the website currently serves blog pages. These are being tracked at https://github.com/ietf-tools/wagtail_website/issues (in particular issues 10 and 11) and will be addressed in upcoming releases. Greg will be entering several other requests (including analytics integration) as issues soon. > > 3. RFC Services Projects > - RPC testing of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Robert This has mostly been going well. The questions and change requests are showing convergence, and I think we're ready to go. That said, there was a memory-exhaustion issue noted last night with rfc-xmldiff. Glen and SoaringHawk are discussing it. I expect it will be addressed quickly. > - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather On hold until after the swtichover. > - Rendering errata in more useful way -- Robert > -- How will it be deployed on rfc-editor.org? This is deployed at https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/beta/errata. We will be working at adding links from the datatracker to it (when appropriate) in the next few weeks. > > 4. Server Infrastructure > - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Henrik and Alexey > -- When do we expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever? > > 5. YANG Catalog > - Putting yangcatalog.org in a Docker container -- Robert This, and the rest of Yangcatalog development is proceeding, and quickly given the LOE (1.5 day/week) we have from the current contractor. The architecture of the containerized yangcatalog project improved significantly this month, addressing several places where we were exposing network interfaces that we didn't need to. We're trying using a github project to visualize progress on the yangcatalog project. It's available at https://github.com/orgs/YangCatalog/projects/1. For work on containerization only, filter the results to https://github.com/orgs/YangCatalog/projects/1?card_filter_query=repo%3Ayangcatalog%2Fdeployment > - Adding features from the yangvalidator project -- Eric > > 6. SustainIETF.org > - It redirects to ietf.org > > 7. Parking Lot > - Search over www, datatracker, and mailarchive > > 8. AOB The automatic agenda builder SoW should go out for bids. > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Mon Sep 9 08:41:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C6112008B; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 08:41:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.28 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.28 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.399, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pDLY-zXpoQsM; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 08:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC85412002F; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 08:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x89FflYB006465 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:41:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1568043709; bh=N10rZ5fdvnCjjFHqA8cM5NyMoS7m+mZ1wQRcbSaPXKg=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=FIUpjnizMlqt9x7bfw97EuAYWE/y6imGB4GvrtStCjanpf+6MnBscaNPmeIawhZKs GD9stPsbbztbR5iDBELi6liOroQERhvegiALv/+JxxDxsUweSEQjTrD/TgrHGL2B8U jpkQ1j/JT8oBWOzWaMSfUi1BZID1P3uDUz9Tsubo= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: Russ Housley , Paul Wouters Cc: Willem Toorop , dnsop , IETF Tools Development References: <156802477017.28268.17780089460480647573@ietfa.amsl.com> <86ff56cd-c936-0a81-b276-f4fd61635c7f@nlnetlabs.nl> <97f8b8fb-91ad-ca74-b65b-d82698517203@nlnetlabs.nl> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:41:47 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] tools issue? was Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 15:41:51 -0000 This looks correct to me both on the datatracker and at tools.ietf.org. If there's still something that's not right, please bring focus to it. RjS On 9/9/19 9:19 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > Paul: > > The replaces and replaced-by information comes from the submitter. In this case: > > Set submitter to "Willem Toorop ", replaces to draft-sury-toorop-dnsop-server-cookies, draft-eastlake-dnsop-server-cookies > > >>> Oh, sorry. I indicated that it replaced the previous draft (and >>> Donald's) that is not correct? >> That normally ensures the datatracker does the tracking and the diffs, >> but it does not look like that happened for this document. It appears >> as a fresh submit without any history. Even weirder, it seems that the >> old document indeed got the update reference: >> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sury-toorop-dnsop-server-cookies-00 >> >> but the new document does not link back to the old one and misses the >> diff. >> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00 >> >> I CC:ed the tools team on this who might be able to see/fix what happened? > It looks like there are four drafts in the replaced-by history: > > draft-sury-toorop-dns-cookies-algorithms > draft-sury-toorop-dnsop-server-cookies > draft-eastlake-dnsop-server-cookies > draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies > > The history tab of draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies shows all four, allowing the comparison of the last one to any of the earlier ones. > > Russ > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Mon Sep 9 09:26:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1C212007A for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:26:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uEzMscKxxLa7 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65931120041 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF736300AED for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:26:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 6XZtpx-mORQO for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:26:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (unknown [138.88.156.37]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D894A300470; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <4b712824-1ce0-6a47-d512-685c11aac67b@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:26:46 -0400 Cc: IETF Tools Development Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <57225470-D9D0-4066-91D8-26BCF66C67D6@vigilsec.com> <4b712824-1ce0-6a47-d512-685c11aac67b@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 10 September 2019 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:26:52 -0000 Robert: >> 2. Community & Other Projects >> - WWW search to provide additional pointers -- Greg >> -- Give pointers to datatracker and mailarchive >=20 > The www project got a lot of attention from me this month, with a = release (v0.9.7) that moved the IESG statement to live under the IESG = pages instead of with the blog pages. >=20 > The site also had some significant performance issues that took time = to diagnose and address. While diagnosing, we identified several major = changes that need to be made to the way the website currently serves = blog pages. These are being tracked at = https://github.com/ietf-tools/wagtail_website/issues (in particular = issues 10 and 11) and will be addressed in upcoming releases. Greg will = be entering several other requests (including analytics integration) as = issues soon. Re: Issue #11 I assume there are two sides to this. First, the Wagtail side needs to = stop making the queries, and second, the now extraneous APIs can be = removed from the datatracker. Is that right? Russ From nobody Mon Sep 9 09:28:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3969112007A for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:28:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XxtmxHI8a9sY for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19335120041 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CE4300AE0 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:28:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id fFLhfr6ATKQf for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (unknown [138.88.156.37]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 918AE300470; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:28:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Message-Id: <61C5B0EC-17DE-46A2-BBF6-CF5E9F952289@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7A898FC9-E6D5-46A6-9B8B-701B7D729B56" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:28:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4b712824-1ce0-6a47-d512-685c11aac67b@nostrum.com> Cc: IETF Tools Development To: Robert Sparks References: <57225470-D9D0-4066-91D8-26BCF66C67D6@vigilsec.com> <4b712824-1ce0-6a47-d512-685c11aac67b@nostrum.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 10 September 2019 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:28:58 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_7A898FC9-E6D5-46A6-9B8B-701B7D729B56 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Sep 9, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 >> 3. RFC Services Projects >> - RPC testing of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Robert >=20 > This has mostly been going well. The questions and change requests are = showing convergence, and I think we're ready to go. >=20 > That said, there was a memory-exhaustion issue noted last night with = rfc-xmldiff. Glen and SoaringHawk are discussing it. I expect it will be = addressed quickly. >=20 >> - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather > On hold until after the swtichover. Yes, I am aware. I wonder if we should put the RFP out soon, so that we = have a contractor selected to do the work before the end of the year. Russ --Apple-Mail=_7A898FC9-E6D5-46A6-9B8B-701B7D729B56 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

On Sep 9, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:

3. = RFC Services Projects
   - RPC testing of = new RFC format tools -- Heather and Robert

This has mostly been going well. = The questions and change requests are showing convergence, and I think = we're ready to go.

That said, there was a memory-exhaustion issue noted last = night with rfc-xmldiff. Glen and SoaringHawk are discussing it. I expect = it will be addressed quickly.

   - Security Review = of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather
On hold until after the = swtichover.

Yes, = I am aware.  I wonder if we should put the RFP out soon, so that we = have a contractor selected to do the work before the end of the = year.

Russ

= --Apple-Mail=_7A898FC9-E6D5-46A6-9B8B-701B7D729B56-- From nobody Mon Sep 9 09:29:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D8212007A; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:29:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.997 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.997 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nohats.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n7hgDYiILDPh; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nohats.ca (mx.nohats.ca [193.110.157.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C841120041; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46RtsW3cg7zD0q; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 18:29:19 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nohats.ca; s=default; t=1568046559; bh=awYN5xdHfs2Nyt+QWkWoPnDa4ohdRuY2ufdykcnN69U=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=F6AlgyFGDHbU3UDqcRvpLnUS1hIzxTMAz9tWvjFm8iuSWCYcm8wOZrHprT/oIacHM MMfh+XrMoCpF3LQhdN3YFWUIobokUfXdjtGDbhI3ftaLJuKDDG0EeRwc/e5YOOAmcn XxLd8J/ckxb0C4QWjRqtDTiLAUPv6gh3L8C6KqSU= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.nohats.ca Received: from mx.nohats.ca ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ObsuXVKgsUEr; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 18:29:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 18:29:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 039417010E; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:29:16 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 bofh.nohats.ca 039417010E Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007454001699; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:29:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Wouters To: Robert Sparks cc: Russ Housley , Willem Toorop , dnsop , IETF Tools Development In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <156802477017.28268.17780089460480647573@ietfa.amsl.com> <86ff56cd-c936-0a81-b276-f4fd61635c7f@nlnetlabs.nl> <97f8b8fb-91ad-ca74-b65b-d82698517203@nlnetlabs.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [DNSOP] tools issue? was Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:29:24 -0000 On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, Robert Sparks wrote: > This looks correct to me both on the datatracker and at tools.ietf.org. > > If there's still something that's not right, please bring focus to it. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00 In the top bar, there is no mention of the previous or current version, despite that if you click "diff2", you see a diff to a previous version. Compare it to a random other document: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-ipsecme-ike-yang-00 There is no previous document here, yet the top bar shows: Versions: 00 Paul From nobody Mon Sep 9 09:32:01 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7254D12084F for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:31:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.98 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.98 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kBKfyGTxHTyR for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0D1B12083C for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x89GVmIU015352 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:31:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1568046713; bh=RtTVEeoIK7ja8yaY8UNA1U42QwzQ8U5YgSHUfb3kSH4=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=n4N0pm5BpUgDvgFeqpD51Szh6XXizpa3tXs8CdqZeGtvXTUUXms+CWY3axt9FTTfd JUxzokCWlXYjyG9oHHCxfKKUZDsfbyWGPKmdarvXwSzatl4HKl2Hq8XHEeFlsS6P0r 6fY7rVZlrksBug0LqvSpbKimFzrOfzceMZu+M5So= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: Russ Housley Cc: IETF Tools Development References: <57225470-D9D0-4066-91D8-26BCF66C67D6@vigilsec.com> <4b712824-1ce0-6a47-d512-685c11aac67b@nostrum.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <6aff33da-b297-ce0d-9429-63a5d1089597@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:31:48 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 10 September 2019 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:32:00 -0000 On 9/9/19 11:26 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > Robert: > >>> 2. Community & Other Projects >>> - WWW search to provide additional pointers -- Greg >>> -- Give pointers to datatracker and mailarchive >> The www project got a lot of attention from me this month, with a release (v0.9.7) that moved the IESG statement to live under the IESG pages instead of with the blog pages. >> >> The site also had some significant performance issues that took time to diagnose and address. While diagnosing, we identified several major changes that need to be made to the way the website currently serves blog pages. These are being tracked at https://github.com/ietf-tools/wagtail_website/issues (in particular issues 10 and 11) and will be addressed in upcoming releases. Greg will be entering several other requests (including analytics integration) as issues soon. > Re: Issue #11 > > I assume there are two sides to this. First, the Wagtail side needs to stop making the queries, and second, the now extraneous APIs can be removed from the datatracker. Is that right? Those are different things - the second is tracked in #12. The first thing is more like what you were addressing at the last codesprint - the view needs to do better work so the template doesn't hit the database so many times. The only overlap between the two is that some of the queries the template is currently making will change (since they'll be going after something other than the locally-cached datatracker information). > > Russ > > From nobody Mon Sep 9 09:34:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCD512007A for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:34:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.978 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.978 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yuIxWfM65h4L for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF4021201EA for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x89GYrhX015771 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:34:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1568046895; bh=0Wdmbb0yo0qayTkBqkfjMRwjl4Zs3TI5sBGSlTA3SR8=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=KtL6nYA+6mBsLLmBuRMv55rv9+S1b3sDCbg67Z6AJj+JEv+mRNfQME/N9Mh+BpSgP 5l5ZuQxnagkrizuP+51Q9s+eu32SFU3YB7vd6ui0yOwE6aLoOtOSWXgeXb+vWEc2nw YmgqeVcaQoFfEvhUQQ8GY6XLKW4kY0GYq0P/wBhI= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: Russ Housley Cc: IETF Tools Development References: <57225470-D9D0-4066-91D8-26BCF66C67D6@vigilsec.com> <4b712824-1ce0-6a47-d512-685c11aac67b@nostrum.com> <61C5B0EC-17DE-46A2-BBF6-CF5E9F952289@vigilsec.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:34:53 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <61C5B0EC-17DE-46A2-BBF6-CF5E9F952289@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------AB90A62A00A4344FAA441A26" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 10 September 2019 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:34:57 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AB90A62A00A4344FAA441A26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 9/9/19 11:28 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > > >> On Sep 9, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Robert Sparks > > wrote: >> >>> 3. RFC Services Projects >>>    - RPC testing of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Robert >> >> This has mostly been going well. The questions and change requests >> are showing convergence, and I think we're ready to go. >> >> That said, there was a memory-exhaustion issue noted last night with >> rfc-xmldiff. Glen and SoaringHawk are discussing it. I expect it will >> be addressed quickly. >> >>>    - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather >> On hold until after the swtichover. > > Yes, I am aware.  I wonder if we should put the RFP out soon, so that > we have a contractor selected to do the work before the end of the year. The concern earlier was that questions related to the RFP would distract the RPC during the changeover. But since that changeover is expected next week, perhaps we can get this issued immediately after? > > Russ > --------------AB90A62A00A4344FAA441A26 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


On 9/9/19 11:28 AM, Russ Housley wrote:


On Sep 9, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:

3. RFC Services Projects
   - RPC testing of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Robert

This has mostly been going well. The questions and change requests are showing convergence, and I think we're ready to go.

That said, there was a memory-exhaustion issue noted last night with rfc-xmldiff. Glen and SoaringHawk are discussing it. I expect it will be addressed quickly.

   - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather
On hold until after the swtichover.

Yes, I am aware.  I wonder if we should put the RFP out soon, so that we have a contractor selected to do the work before the end of the year.
The concern earlier was that questions related to the RFP would distract the RPC during the changeover. But since that changeover is expected next week, perhaps we can get this issued immediately after?

Russ

--------------AB90A62A00A4344FAA441A26-- From nobody Mon Sep 9 09:38:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F6A120872 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:38:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5IAJLbn-2T37 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2379C12081D for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B13300B11 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:38:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id z0binvndKljk for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (unknown [138.88.156.37]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C335300470; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:38:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CC9691FB-E49C-4788-90E1-3B0BD41E57CA" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 12:38:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: Cc: Robert Sparks , Willem Toorop , dnsop , IETF Tools Development To: Paul Wouters References: <156802477017.28268.17780089460480647573@ietfa.amsl.com> <86ff56cd-c936-0a81-b276-f4fd61635c7f@nlnetlabs.nl> <97f8b8fb-91ad-ca74-b65b-d82698517203@nlnetlabs.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [DNSOP] tools issue? was Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:38:32 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_CC9691FB-E49C-4788-90E1-3B0BD41E57CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Sep 9, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, Robert Sparks wrote: >=20 >> This looks correct to me both on the datatracker and at = tools.ietf.org. >>=20 >> If there's still something that's not right, please bring focus to = it. >=20 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00 >=20 > In the top bar, there is no mention of the previous or current = version, > despite that if you click "diff2", you see a diff to a previous = version. That is a volunteer maintained tool. Please look here: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies/ = Russ= --Apple-Mail=_CC9691FB-E49C-4788-90E1-3B0BD41E57CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

On Sep 9, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> = wrote:

On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, Robert Sparks wrote:

This looks correct to me = both on the datatracker and at tools.ietf.org.

If there's = still something that's not right, please bring focus to it.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00<= /a>

In the top bar, there is no mention of = the previous or current version,
despite that if you click = "diff2", you see a diff to a previous version.

That is a = volunteer maintained tool.


Russ
= --Apple-Mail=_CC9691FB-E49C-4788-90E1-3B0BD41E57CA-- From nobody Mon Sep 9 09:39:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04549120803; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:39:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.279 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.279 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.399, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H2Qiy34yi7Pt; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A96212007A; Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x89GdZlF016659 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:39:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1568047177; bh=n0fjjsi3vWz+MeNpRLSZYgNKicehWQG1NMuDrpA1Vrs=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=qUEt7DDezcYbdVvHHyMrriR2920QTdBlCoB7BRBu6Hh6jOg91IzKGdaLR73UOW3Q1 DuMpsM2uCeyKvQ1b/qCoZTs2XBLJr1GEAprWS1zJVU1E74A4JcHlo0O/35EzRuefzJ gI/edomZjaZIHYavPkM8GIl0Nv8MHlAATSMlzoms= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: Paul Wouters Cc: Russ Housley , Willem Toorop , dnsop , IETF Tools Development References: <156802477017.28268.17780089460480647573@ietfa.amsl.com> <86ff56cd-c936-0a81-b276-f4fd61635c7f@nlnetlabs.nl> <97f8b8fb-91ad-ca74-b65b-d82698517203@nlnetlabs.nl> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <8255d1ea-35fb-a0ed-d9c7-a93195baca03@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 11:39:35 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0FB5C596C3A4538AA697BB7F" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [DNSOP] tools issue? was Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00.txt X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:39:39 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0FB5C596C3A4538AA697BB7F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Paul - At https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00, I see Versions: (draft-sury-toorop-dnsop-server-cookies ) 00 RjS On 9/9/19 11:29 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, Robert Sparks wrote: > >> This looks correct to me both on the datatracker and at tools.ietf.org. >> >> If there's still something that's not right, please bring focus to it. > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00 > > In the top bar, there is no mention of the previous or current version, > despite that if you click "diff2", you see a diff to a previous version. > > Compare it to a random other document: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-ipsecme-ike-yang-00 > > There is no previous document here, yet the top bar shows: > >     Versions: 00 > > Paul --------------0FB5C596C3A4538AA697BB7F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi Paul -

At https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00, I see

Versions: (draft-sury-toorop-dnsop-server-cookies) 00

RjS

On 9/9/19 11:29 AM, Paul Wouters wrote:
On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, Robert Sparks wrote:

This looks correct to me both on the datatracker and at tools.ietf.org.

If there's still something that's not right, please bring focus to it.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-00

In the top bar, there is no mention of the previous or current version,
despite that if you click "diff2", you see a diff to a previous version.

Compare it to a random other document:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-ipsecme-ike-yang-00

There is no previous document here, yet the top bar shows:

    Versions: 00

Paul
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charset=utf-8 Hi Russ, I=E2=80=99ve had a slight schedule change and must join another meeting = at 1:30 today. Thanks. ________________________________ Portia Wenze-Danley IETF Administration LLC Executive Director (Interim) (Formerly IETF Administrative Director (IAD)=09 Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) pwdanley@ietf.org > On Sep 9, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Russ Housley = wrote: >=20 > Tools Call Agenda -- 10 September 2019 at 1:00 Eastern >=20 >=20 > JOIN WEBEX MEETING > = https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm440dd848726339c03e605b9956e38bac= > Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 > Meeting password: tools >=20 > JOIN BY PHONE > 1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free number (US/Canada)=20 > 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 > Meeting password: tools >=20 >=20 > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN > - Python2 to Python3 transition -- Henrik > - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA -- Robert > - Datatracker maintenance by DashCare -- Robert > - IRSG balloting -- Robert >=20 > 2. Community & Other Projects > - WWW search to provide additional pointers -- Greg > -- Give pointers to datatracker and mailarchive >=20 > 3. RFC Services Projects > - RPC testing of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Robert > - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather > - Rendering errata in more useful way -- Robert > -- How will it be deployed on rfc-editor.org? >=20 > 4. Server Infrastructure > - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Henrik and Alexey > -- When do we expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever? >=20 > 5. YANG Catalog > - Putting yangcatalog.org in a Docker container -- Robert > - Adding features from the yangvalidator project -- Eric >=20 > 6. SustainIETF.org > - It redirects to ietf.org >=20 > 7. Parking Lot > - Search over www, datatracker, and mailarchive >=20 > 8. AOB >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --Apple-Mail=_312C0C37-D76E-4241-AB7E-A098C453FC1A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Hi Russ,

I=E2=80=99ve= had a slight schedule change and must join another meeting at 1:30 = today.

Thanks.
________________________________
Portia Wenze-Danley
IETF Administration LLC Executive Director (Interim)
(Formerly IETF Administrative = Director (IAD)
Internet = Engineering Task Force (IETF)







On Sep 9, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:

Tools = Call Agenda -- 10 September 2019 at 1:00 Eastern


JOIN WEBEX MEETING
https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm440dd848726339c03e605= b9956e38bac
Meeting number (access code): 640 103 = 570
Meeting password: tools

JOIN BY PHONE
1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free = number (US/Canada)
1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number = (US/Canada)
Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570
Meeting password: tools


1. Datatracker Projects
  - Expected = Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik
=     -- = https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN
=   - Python2 to Python3 transition -- Henrik
=   - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA -- Robert
  - Datatracker maintenance by DashCare -- = Robert
  - IRSG balloting -- Robert

2. Community & Other Projects
=   - WWW search to provide additional pointers -- Greg
    -- Give pointers to datatracker and = mailarchive

3. RFC Services Projects
  - RPC testing of new RFC format tools -- Heather = and Robert
  - Security Review of RPC Tools -- = Robert and Heather
  - Rendering errata in more = useful way -- Robert
    -- How will = it be deployed on rfc-editor.org?

4. Server = Infrastructure
  - IESG discussions of DMARC -- = Henrik and Alexey
    -- When do we = expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever?

5. = YANG Catalog
  - Putting yangcatalog.org in a = Docker container -- Robert
  - Adding features = from the yangvalidator project -- Eric

6. = SustainIETF.org
  - It redirects to ietf.org

7. Parking Lot
  - = Search over www, datatracker, and mailarchive

8. AOB

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Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN - Python2 to Python3 transition =E2=80=93 Henrik Henrik: The next step will be taken when we have transitioned to the = next version OS on the servers and when we have everything containerized = or running under Python 3. The main waiting point is Trac, which we = still don=E2=80=99t know if it will be released under 3 in time for us. = Most likely the next work item is to containerize Trac.=20 - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA =E2=80=93 Robert Robert: IOLA is still planning to complete the project by the date they = had bid but they have been short on time. - Datatracker maintenance by DashCare =E2=80=93 Robert The developer is in a good place and they expect to have the project = completed on time. - IRSG balloting -- Robert Akayla has been working on this and had a slow start. We=E2=80=99ve = turned the bend and started with a reasonable pace of progress. We=E2=80=99= ve updated the delivery time to be right around the time of IETF 106.=20 2. Community & Other Projects - WWW search to provide additional pointers -- Greg -- Give pointers to datatracker and mailarchive Russ: Last time we talked about doing search over WWW, the datatracker, = and the mail archive. That has been moved to the parking lot. Now, when = you do a search on WWW you=E2=80=99ll get pointers to additional = information in the datatracker and mail archive. This was fairly quick = and the other thing is a tougher project. It will be implemented very = shortly if it hasn=E2=80=99t been already.=20 Robert: It will be in the next release or two of the website.=20 3. RFC Services Projects - RPC testing of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Robert Heather: There is only one outstanding piece to test, re the metadata = when a document has been obsoleted. Next week we=E2=80=99ll be ready to = publish in v3. XML to RFC output is so close that we=E2=80=99re still on = target for next week.=20 Russ: Idea is that starting with documents approved by a stream next = week, those will be v3 through the whole process? The ones already = approved will be v2? Alice: Documentss that are in auth48 will go into an auth48 round 2 and = move to v3. There are less than a handful of docs that will be = published in v2.=20 = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rfc-interest/yEsDj8BR6AwtLi6UduKOPVc= 9SIo) points to transition details = (https://www.rfc-editor.org/rse/wiki/doku.php?id=3Dv3implementation) - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather Robert: The directory structure in the details of the SOW needs to be = updated. I will talk with Priyanka and re-circulate the SOW. - Rendering errata in more useful way -- Robert -- How will it be deployed on rfc-editor.org? The beta of rfc-editor.org now includes errata. They can be linked from = the Datatracker soon. Heather will talk to Alice and Sandy about the = format of the errata and the URL; if =E2=80=9Cbeta=E2=80=9D should stay = in the URL, which will require redirects later, or if the URL should be = changed now. The errata pages can always be regenerated if people have a = lot of suggestions for feature requests. 4. Server Infrastructure - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Henrik and Alexey -- When do we expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever? Henrik: We will probably see OpenARC but maybe not soon. During the last = IETF the code we need was written. It=E2=80=99s maybe being tested and = it=E2=80=99s maybe been committed, but there=E2=80=99s no release. I = will poke them again. 5. YANG Catalog - Putting yangcatalog.org in a Docker container =E2=80=93 Robert The main developer does not have more time available for us but is = making progress. See https://github.com/orgs/YangCatalog/projects/1 for = progress. Containerization is in the middle of the list of priorities. - Adding features from the yangvalidator project =E2=80=93 Eric Eric: We have someone committed for .5 day a week to build unit tests. = Work is underway. I=E2=80=99ve done nothing regarding yang validator yet.=20 6. SustainIETF.org - It redirects to ietf.org Right now this is just being redirected to ietf.org. It=E2=80=99s up to = the LLC to decide if they want to do something else with it. This will = be taken off the agenda for future calls unless there is something new = to do with it.=20 7. Parking Lot - Search over www, datatracker, and mailarchive 8. AOB > On Sep 10, 2019, at 7:13 AM, Greg Wood wrote: >=20 > I may not make the call today, so some further update on these items: >=20 >> On Sep 9, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>> 2. Community & Other Projects >>> - WWW search to provide additional pointers -- Greg >>> -- Give pointers to datatracker and mailarchive >=20 > Robert and Russ and I discussed an approach. This Google Doc provides = additional details: >=20 > = https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jE0GnaIsfasTggr3DymJkbDzFKU1VLxTj36PO-= uGhq4/edit?usp=3Dsharing >=20 >>=20 >> The www project got a lot of attention from me this month, with a = release (v0.9.7) that moved the IESG statement to live under the IESG = pages instead of with the blog pages. >>=20 >> The site also had some significant performance issues that took time = to diagnose and address. While diagnosing, we identified several major = changes that need to be made to the way the website currently serves = blog pages. These are being tracked at = https://github.com/ietf-tools/wagtail_website/issues (in particular = issues 10 and 11) and will be addressed in upcoming releases. Greg will = be entering several other requests (including analytics integration) as = issues soon. >=20 > I=E2=80=99ve added several items. Once the analytics proposal has = finished up community review, I=E2=80=99ll add that, too. >=20 > Let me know if more info would be helpful. >=20 > -Greg >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --Apple-Mail=_53CBDD30-E08D-4DE9-A191-F41F0AF3E9DC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi everyone,

Below are my notes from yesterday=E2=80=99s tools = call. 

Liz Flynn
Project Manager / IETF


=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


Tools Call Notes -- 10 September 2019 at 1:00 Eastern


1. Datatracker = Projects
  - Expected Datatracker Releases -- = Robert and Henrik
    -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN=
  - Python2 to Python3 transition =E2=80=93 = Henrik

Henrik: = The next step will be taken when we have transitioned to the next = version OS on the servers and when we have everything containerized or = running under Python 3. The main waiting point is Trac, which we still = don=E2=80=99t know if it will be released under 3 in time for us. Most = likely the next work item is to containerize Trac. 

  - Meeting = Application Improvements by IOLA =E2=80=93 Robert
Robert: IOLA is still planning to = complete the project by the date they had bid but they have been short = on time.

  = - Datatracker maintenance by DashCare =E2=80=93 Robert

The developer is in a = good place and they expect to have the project completed on = time.

  - = IRSG balloting -- Robert

Akayla has been working on this and had a slow start. We=E2=80=99= ve turned the bend and started with a reasonable pace of progress. = We=E2=80=99ve updated the delivery time to be right around the time of = IETF 106. 




2. Community & Other = Projects
  - WWW search to provide additional = pointers -- Greg
    -- Give pointers to = datatracker and mailarchive

Russ: Last time we talked about doing search over WWW, the = datatracker, and the mail archive. That has been moved to the parking = lot. Now, when you do a search on WWW you=E2=80=99ll get pointers to = additional information in the datatracker and mail archive. This was = fairly quick and the other thing is a tougher project. It will be = implemented very shortly if it hasn=E2=80=99t been = already. 

Robert: It will be in the next release or two of the = website. 


3. RFC Services = Projects
  - RPC testing of new RFC format = tools -- Heather and Robert

Heather: There is only one outstanding piece to test, re the = metadata when a document has been obsoleted. Next week we=E2=80=99ll be = ready to publish in v3. XML to RFC output is so close that we=E2=80=99re = still on target for next week. 

Russ: Idea is that starting with = documents approved by a stream next week, those will be v3 through the = whole process? The ones already approved will be v2?

Alice: Documentss that = are in auth48 will go into an auth48 round 2 and move to v3.  There = are less than a handful of docs that will be published in = v2. 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rfc-interest/yEsDj8BR6Awt= Li6UduKOPVc9SIo) points to transition details (https://www.rfc-editor.org/rse/wiki/doku.php?id=3Dv3implementat= ion)


  - Security Review of RPC Tools = -- Robert and Heather

Robert: The directory structure in the details of the SOW = needs to be updated. I will talk with Priyanka and re-circulate the = SOW.


  - Rendering errata in more = useful way -- Robert
    -- How will it = be deployed on rfc-editor.org?

The beta of rfc-editor.org now = includes errata. They can be linked from the Datatracker soon. Heather = will talk to Alice and Sandy about the format of the errata and the URL; = if =E2=80=9Cbeta=E2=80=9D should stay in the URL, which will require = redirects later, or if the URL should be changed now. The errata pages = can always be regenerated if people have a lot of suggestions for = feature requests.




4. Server = Infrastructure
  - IESG discussions of DMARC = -- Henrik and Alexey
    -- When do we = expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever?

Henrik: We will probably see OpenARC = but maybe not soon. During the last IETF the code we need was written. = It=E2=80=99s maybe being tested and it=E2=80=99s maybe been committed, = but there=E2=80=99s no release. I will poke them again.


5. YANG Catalog
  - Putting yangcatalog.org in a = Docker container =E2=80=93 Robert

The main developer does not have more = time available for us but is making progress. See https://github.com/orgs/YangCatalog/projects/1 for = progress. Containerization is in the middle of the list of = priorities.

  - Adding features from the yangvalidator project =E2=80=93= Eric

Eric: We = have someone committed for .5 day a week to build unit tests. Work is = underway.
I=E2=80=99ve done nothing regarding yang = validator yet. 

6. SustainIETF.org
  - It = redirects to ietf.org

Right now this is just = being redirected to ietf.org. = It=E2=80=99s up to the LLC to decide if they want to do something else = with it. This will be taken off the agenda for future calls unless there = is something new to do with it. 



7. Parking Lot
  - Search over www, datatracker, and = mailarchive

8. = AOB



On Sep 10, 2019, at 7:13 AM, Greg Wood <wood@isoc.org> = wrote:

I may not make the call today, so some further update on = these items:

On Sep 9, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:


2. = Community & Other Projects
  - WWW search = to provide additional pointers -- Greg
=     -- Give pointers to datatracker and = mailarchive

Robert = and Russ and I discussed an approach. This Google Doc provides = additional details:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jE0GnaIsfasTggr3DymJkbDzFKU= 1VLxTj36PO-uGhq4/edit?usp=3Dsharing


The www = project got a lot of attention from me this month, with a release = (v0.9.7) that moved the IESG statement to live under the IESG pages = instead of with the blog pages.

The site = also had some significant performance issues that took time to diagnose = and address. While diagnosing, we identified several major changes that = need to be made to the way the website currently serves blog pages. = These are being tracked at = https://github.com/ietf-tools/wagtail_website/issues (in particular = issues 10 and 11) and will be addressed in upcoming releases. Greg will = be entering several other requests (including analytics integration) as = issues soon.

I=E2=80=99ve = added several items. Once the analytics proposal has finished up = community review, I=E2=80=99ll add that, too.

Let me know if more info would be helpful.

-Greg

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= --Apple-Mail=_53CBDD30-E08D-4DE9-A191-F41F0AF3E9DC-- From nobody Fri Sep 13 14:08:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E2F1200FA for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 14:08:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.98 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.98 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zFuS_JzUW6fN for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 14:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C22A912006E for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 14:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x8DL8CrS046837 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 16:08:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1568408893; bh=Ar80KacWwSY+zftKVqXRqafYRkHXd5P4bYBgYO838jc=; h=Subject:References:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=jUQHc5M90cpM+75CNwhF8iOJuzFQJHHNOZwI1r15QuAeL1IWykEHM06vQFDzmSx9Z hHILArdkMxHG2syoJj6sH1BOh5ITK0sqAvVYlVygfJPvYZercI3+RQ5Pc0LjngERGP uMV0+gwKjTcaQT1qXpT2LOtMEShY2l6yi7u2HM8Q= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local References: <49b2b878-9700-1147-e00c-e90de3fdfd9b@network-heretics.com> To: IETF Tools Development From: Robert Sparks X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <49b2b878-9700-1147-e00c-e90de3fdfd9b@network-heretics.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 16:08:12 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49b2b878-9700-1147-e00c-e90de3fdfd9b@network-heretics.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Planned experiment: A new mailing list for last-call discussions X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 21:08:16 -0000 For conversation: Keith Moore is looking for something more than currently proposed for the last-call experiment. He'd like to be able to subscribe to messages about a given document (or topic) by clicking on things in the last-call announcement message, and not get traffic for anything he didn't opt-in to. Thoughts? (Relevant bits from three messages in reverse chronological order pasted below) RjS -------- Forwarded Message -------- On 9/13/19 9:40 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > So this is the "Topics" configuration under mailman. > > I could see automating adding topics, where the topic was a draft > name, or perhaps drafts matching the group prefix. But I think there > needs to be some analysis of how mailman behaves when the set of > topics gets large. Yes, I had the same question in my mind. > Mind if I forward this thread so far to the tools development team for > get their input? I don't mind at all. > I don't think a custom list expander is something we should take on. Well, I've written one before.   Back when everyone used sendmail, people used to use my bulk_mailer tool to improve performance because sendmail (at that time, at least) delivered mail to all recipients in an envelope in a serial fashion, so every time an SMTP server was slow to respond it delayed mail delivery for everyone else.   Bulk_mailer split things up so that no envelope contained more than N recipient addresses, and addresses at the same mail domain ended up in the same envelope.   These days I suspect/hope that MTAs are smarter, and that nobody uses sendmail anymore, or at least that sendmail bears no resemblance to what it used to. Anyway the list expander is pretty much an ordinary list expander except that the recipient list comes from a database query, or a different database query than normal. The real trick might be arranging for every message to be classified so that something can tell which Last Call the message pertains to and which topic to assign to it. Keith -------- Forwarded Message -------- On 9/12/19 5:43 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> Mailman already supports a very similar feature so it might just be a >> matter of adding some UI bits. > > I don't think I'm familiar with the mailman feature you are pointing > to - can you send a link or more description? I've never tried using it, but mailman does seem to have some support for letting subscribers opt-in or opt-out to specific "topics". Alternatively, the mechanism could be implemented outside of mailman by doing the processing in the list expansion software and having the lastcall list use a different list expander.   The list expander would do a database lookup to see which recipients had opted-in to a particular last-call action, and only forward the message to those individuals. (or have a separate lastcall-optin list with its own expander) Anyway I'm pretty sure this would be easy to write, and suspect some people would want to use it.   But there's no point in writing it if there's no chance IETF would use it. Keith -------- Forwarded Message -------- What I'd like to see is a way to easily and selectively opt-in to particular last call discussions with a single button press. For example:  Once a week the list sends out an HTML message with all currently open Last Calls.   For each of these Last Call actions, there is a button in the message that can be used to subscribe or unsubscribe to the specific discussion associated with that last call.    That button launches a web page which has the side-effect of changing the user's subscription.    Perhaps there should also be a link to the tools page for that action, and to archives of discussion of that action. Also for any Last Call discussion message sent, there's a link in that message to allow unsubscribing from the topic (as opposed to the whole list). Mailman already supports a very similar feature so it might just be a matter of adding some UI bits. Probably willing to contribute code as long as I'm not swamped with paying work. Keith From nobody Sat Sep 14 08:28:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA3E12006D for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:28:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gzh07cwdRRG3 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E30CA12004C for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:52646 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1i99yF-0003SB-Nj; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:28:20 -0700 To: Robert Sparks , IETF Tools Development References: <49b2b878-9700-1147-e00c-e90de3fdfd9b@network-heretics.com> From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 17:28:12 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wpDxJNTL8OJv1IlNgosGIdcbgfQdJEhdM" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-development@ietf.org, rjsparks@nostrum.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Planned experiment: A new mailing list for last-call discussions X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 15:28:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --wpDxJNTL8OJv1IlNgosGIdcbgfQdJEhdM Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="L8F7JPpCUGj2gE1Xf7dfKtBQHGKqkfPkM"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Robert Sparks , IETF Tools Development Message-ID: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Planned experiment: A new mailing list for last-call discussions References: <49b2b878-9700-1147-e00c-e90de3fdfd9b@network-heretics.com> In-Reply-To: --L8F7JPpCUGj2gE1Xf7dfKtBQHGKqkfPkM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2019-09-13 23:08, Robert Sparks wrote: > For conversation: >=20 > Keith Moore is looking for something more than currently proposed for=20 > the last-call experiment. He'd like to be able to subscribe to messages= =20 > about a given document (or topic) by clicking on things in the last-cal= l=20 > announcement message, and not get traffic for anything he didn't opt-in= to. >=20 > Thoughts? If we can use Mailman's 'topics' feature for this, it would be good. We'= d still need to write glue code between the datatracker and Mailman to add and retire such topics, but that seems like a smaller task than writing t= he entire functionality from scratch. The proposed feature seems worthwhile to me. Best regards, Henrik >=20 > (Relevant bits from three messages in reverse chronological order paste= d=20 > below) >=20 > RjS >=20 >=20 >=20 > -------- Forwarded Message -------- >=20 > On 9/13/19 9:40 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: >=20 >> So this is the "Topics" configuration under mailman. >> >> I could see automating adding topics, where the topic was a draft=20 >> name, or perhaps drafts matching the group prefix. But I think there=20 >> needs to be some analysis of how mailman behaves when the set of=20 >> topics gets large.=20 > Yes, I had the same question in my mind. >> Mind if I forward this thread so far to the tools development team for= =20 >> get their input? > I don't mind at all. >> I don't think a custom list expander is something we should take on. > Well, I've written one before. Back when everyone used sendmail,=20 > people used to use my bulk_mailer tool to improve performance because=20 > sendmail (at that time, at least) delivered mail to all recipients in a= n=20 > envelope in a serial fashion, so every time an SMTP server was slow to = > respond it delayed mail delivery for everyone else. Bulk_mailer split= =20 > things up so that no envelope contained more than N recipient addresses= ,=20 > and addresses at the same mail domain ended up in the same envelope. = > These days I suspect/hope that MTAs are smarter, and that nobody uses=20 > sendmail anymore, or at least that sendmail bears no resemblance to wha= t=20 > it used to. >=20 > Anyway the list expander is pretty much an ordinary list expander excep= t=20 > that the recipient list comes from a database query, or a different=20 > database query than normal. >=20 > The real trick might be arranging for every message to be classified so= =20 > that something can tell which Last Call the message pertains to and=20 > which topic to assign to it. >=20 > Keith >=20 > -------- Forwarded Message -------- >=20 > On 9/12/19 5:43 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >=20 >>> Mailman already supports a very similar feature so it might just be a= =20 >>> matter of adding some UI bits.=20 >> >> I don't think I'm familiar with the mailman feature you are pointing=20 >> to - can you send a link or more description? >=20 > I've never tried using it, but mailman does seem to have some support=20 > for letting subscribers opt-in or opt-out to specific "topics". >=20 > Alternatively, the mechanism could be implemented outside of mailman by= =20 > doing the processing in the list expansion software and having the=20 > lastcall list use a different list expander. The list expander would = > do a database lookup to see which recipients had opted-in to a=20 > particular last-call action, and only forward the message to those=20 > individuals. >=20 > (or have a separate lastcall-optin list with its own expander) >=20 > Anyway I'm pretty sure this would be easy to write, and suspect some=20 > people would want to use it. But there's no point in writing it if=20 > there's no chance IETF would use it. >=20 > Keith >=20 > -------- Forwarded Message -------- >=20 >=20 > What I'd like to see is a way to easily and selectively opt-in to=20 > particular last call discussions with a single button press. >=20 > For example: Once a week the list sends out an HTML message with all=20 > currently open Last Calls. For each of these Last Call actions, there= =20 > is a button in the message that can be used to subscribe or unsubscribe= =20 > to the specific discussion associated with that last call. That=20 > button launches a web page which has the side-effect of changing the=20 > user's subscription. Perhaps there should also be a link to the tool= s=20 > page for that action, and to archives of discussion of that action. >=20 > Also for any Last Call discussion message sent, there's a link in that = > message to allow unsubscribing from the topic (as opposed to the whole = > list). >=20 > Mailman already supports a very similar feature so it might just be a=20 > matter of adding some UI bits. >=20 > Probably willing to contribute code as long as I'm not swamped with=20 > paying work. >=20 > Keith >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 --L8F7JPpCUGj2gE1Xf7dfKtBQHGKqkfPkM-- --wpDxJNTL8OJv1IlNgosGIdcbgfQdJEhdM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEifjc5+rnL1MJBcZSTptXS4+7FxoFAl19BwwACgkQTptXS4+7 FxpByg//XRA4gAre3wtj13umqoVhtONYAwZCSxUv9SMf3cDs3IPqRfTvbDv/I1xM 14ETVKArziODHAVxPDTFoAXa+GfQrLXalIzmssHtiJjJBsg8TOdd/N7Z1RoKKZwD gsjzRAO0+P2J1e2Vb/X6WYqDtF3xO0Icx0gdQBNsAjIwhc4XOsCf+IMVcsunp8cm LHBkqNyVjpsdHjwNMTtpv9qXj6+5lVJsUcJokUWWCEDFL8FGbHgJZ5DZC2GMLAap wb0JoOVG9dE5Tpl6jephD3ux5zlIX+3ys5eURuaGMHH/lxT6Gbo4tX2fiOANaLjQ h0RwB90kNqULFMZEo/nkJCILWHkq629X2jI3KIL+onXSXFpi2biGLBoH5RcvxWCy QC6d/2pC+am6T8D1QxQboxcu33VSUVGAAoiFIq7lCYEK8xxTKXE74XF/XBChqhhj axL6lShYoVG42UAIEU+Tk0HH+WDbXt/ioXIKbfzjx6FJYamutWM7JekkLJLLg4Qh xPqZowmFsV5kdLwwppDW7oOPlqMJQfekAkhOefojQot8wdh9ZE+oXHkAMHbvfiC+ QSFfRCM58NW+q7JjsarbiVDb2hz30W+zx2qGrIBDmY6xGQHkY99Mk5u++eND/hDT nBIXr6HHyeQznjALbdGZc2xazRzeRYeR3DzhikMKtrEBIZiD7Y4= =dXWG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wpDxJNTL8OJv1IlNgosGIdcbgfQdJEhdM-- From nobody Mon Sep 23 14:14:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844AD12002E for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 14:14:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CCzawjFWX4n4 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 14:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54DA912022C for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 14:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BED7300B05 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 17:14:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 9z6kbOcdWcwI for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 17:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (unknown [138.88.156.37]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B38F300595; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 17:14:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 17:14:34 -0400 Cc: IESG , IETF Tools Development To: IETF Chair X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Team Report -- 23 September 2019 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 21:14:40 -0000 Tools Team Report -- 23 September 2019 1. Datatracker Projects - The plan was recently updated: -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN -- Need to put Trac and other programs that need Python 2 into containers in order to deploy the Python 3 version of the Datatracker. - A contract for Meeting Application Improvements was awarded to IOLA. Work will begin shortly. - A contract for IRSG balloting was awarded to AKAYLA. Work began in June 2019, and it is expected to be finished before IETF 106. - A contract for the Datatracker Review Tool was awarded to DashCare in August 2019, and it is expected to be finished before the end of this year. 2. Community & Other Projects - The IETF web site now does a better job with static plaintext or PDF pages, such as appeals, appeal responses, and implementation reports. We moved the IESG Statements out of the blog section of the web site for example. -- See https://www.ietf.org/standards/process/appeals/. 3. RFC Services Projects - The RFC Production Center is now using the new format tools. -- However, xmlrfcdiff is consuming a huge amount of memory, so the RFC Production Center is using other tools until this can be resolved. - Support for the v3 schema was enabled for I-D submission last July. - The IESG needs to make a policy decision about when I-Ds using the v3 schema format can be submitted to the IESG for publication on the IETF stream. - The Tools Team has a Statement of Work for the security of the tools used by the RFC Production Center. Expect to release an RFP in the next few weeks for this review. 4. Server Infrastructure - The custom DMARC-handling software was deployed for all mail lists in June 2018, but there is a desire to move away from the custom software to ARC. The released ARC software cannot be configured to handle just a few of our mail lists, but this feature is available in the yet-to-be-released version. Alexey and Henrik continue to try to get a response from the ARC developers about a release date, but so far we are only getting silence. This has not changed in many months; maybe we will be using our custom code forever. 5. YANG Catalog - A sandbox of the YANGcatalog.org is running in a container. We expect deployment of the containerized version soon. 6. SustainIETF.org - This domain name has been transferred from ISOC to the IETF Trust. - It is now being redirected to ietf.org.