From nobody Tue Nov 5 11:50:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1158C1208AB for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 11:50:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Px7X5dzqt--J for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 11:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 269AE12011E for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 11:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C23300B23 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 14:50:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id dNZCMy2Oz2SD for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 14:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from [5.5.33.83] (unknown [204.194.23.17]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 27FA3300688; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 14:50:10 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Message-Id: <7AD68D2C-F154-4923-A1BA-C30299A84E05@vigilsec.com> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 14:50:10 -0500 Cc: IESG , IETF Tools Development , Jay Daley To: IETF Chair X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Team Report -- 5 November 2019 X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 19:50:16 -0000 Tools Team Report -- 5 November 2019 1. Datatracker Projects - The plan was recently updated: -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN - A contract for Meeting Application Improvements was awarded to IOLA. Work on this is delayed; trying to get an updated plan. - A contract for IRSG balloting was awarded to AKAYLA. Work is expected to finish around IETF 106. - A contract for the Datatracker Review Tool was awarded to DashCare. Work is expected to be finished before the end of this year. 2. Community & Other Projects - A prototyping server for the IETF web site now includes Matomo, and it has been integrated with our Wagtail website. It is not ready for production yet, but it appears to be collecting the desired analytics without collecting information that the community was told would not be collected. Recent versions of Firefox are configured by default to send the Do Not Track (DNT) header. At the moment, the DNT header is sent even if the user has configured Firefox not to send it. As a result, no Firefox users will be included in the aggregated statistics. 3. RFC Services Projects - The RFC Production Center is now using the new format tools to generate the most recent RFCs. - The IESG needs to make a policy decision about when I-Ds using the v3 schema format can be submitted to the IESG for publication on the IETF stream. - The Tools Team has a Statement of Work for the security of the tools used by the RFC Production Center. The RFP did not result in an award. 4. Server Infrastructure - The custom DMARC-handling software was deployed for all mail lists in June 2018, but there is a desire to move away from the custom software to ARC. The released ARC software cannot be configured to handle just a few of our mail lists, but this feature is available in the yet-to-be-released version. Alexey and Henrik continue to try to get a response from the ARC developers about a release date, but so far we are only getting silence. This has not changed in many months; maybe we will be using our custom code forever. 5. YANG Catalog - A sandbox of the YANGcatalog.org is running in a container. We expect deployment of the containerized version next year. 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Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA -- Robert - Datatracker maintenance by DashCare -- Robert - IRSG balloting by AKAYLA -- Robert - Deployment of Python3 datatracker -- Robert -- Impacts on related applications 2. Community & Other Projects - WWW search to provide additional pointers -- Greg -- Give pointers to datatracker and mailarchive - Host third-party subresources on mailarchive -- Ryan 3. RFC Services Projects - RPC use of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Henrik - Deploying in-line errata on rfc-editor.org? -- Alice - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather 4. Server Infrastructure - Expected Website Releases -- Robert - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Henrik and Alexey -- When do we expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever? 5. YANG Catalog - Putting yangcatalog.org in a Docker container -- Robert 6. Parking Lot - Search over www, datatracker, and mailarchive - Transition Datatracker to Django2 - Transition Website to Django2 7. AOB From nobody Fri Nov 8 07:55:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58D1120A16 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 07:55:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.98 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.98 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HFoedWnmsVTs for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 07:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 735061207FC for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 07:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id xA8FtHU1070286 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2019 09:55:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1573228518; bh=wlynM34RMGqbCL6lcNZhJtXsVImPDZQD1KKUTfqUHM8=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ubZPlQP2NAZgXOD3oHVB4c/Q5Zd4ZQF9/3N/ez0sqnGhFb5/FZFfmHd6bcI1K7Wpv Mg7j1TjZILRDzt77GeZgv3ksO0nDHcrtRkzr5mrrJx82dV8SoMS8YDzzDrnAHBbwqW F76o2PbSTxhxzZdshAgcasPvEF/mg5rL7szI9Kzo= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: tools-development@ietf.org References: From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 09:55:17 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 12 November 2019 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:55:22 -0000 My notes for the tools call: On 11/7/19 9:22 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > Tools Call Agenda -- 12 November 2019 at 1:00 Eastern > > > JOIN WEBEX MEETING > https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m440dd848726339c03e605b9956e38bac > Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 > Meeting password: tools > > JOIN BY PHONE > 1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free number (US/Canada) > 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 > Meeting password: tools > > > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN The PLAN has been stable for a few weeks. We've issued 7nreleases since the last call, which is a higher rate than usual. These reflect feature requests, the review tool maintenance work, and bugfixes coming in. > - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA -- Robert Still not started, and communication has stopped. This has been escalated to Jay and Portia. > - Datatracker maintenance by DashCare -- Robert This project continues to progress excellently. > - IRSG balloting by AKAYLA -- Robert I have started an acceptance review for this project. I expect to complete it before the Singapore meeting starts. > - Deployment of Python3 datatracker -- Robert Currently gated two things: 1) We need to wrap Trac in a container that can run Python 2.7, since Trac won't become Python 3 ready until next year. This is the second item on the PLAN. 2) We want to coordinate this move with the upgrade the OS of the underlying machines. We will be meeting later to work out a plan. > -- Impacts on related applications > > 2. Community & Other Projects > - WWW search to provide additional pointers -- Greg > -- Give pointers to datatracker and mailarchive > - Host third-party subresources on mailarchive -- Ryan > > 3. RFC Services Projects > - RPC use of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Henrik > - Deploying in-line errata on rfc-editor.org? -- Alice > - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather We had no acceptable bids to the RFP. > > 4. Server Infrastructure > - Expected Website Releases -- Robert We have a matomo instrumented version of the website under test. I don't expect major releases until well after the Singapore meeting. The next major release will involve removing much of the unused datatracker integration. > - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Henrik and Alexey > -- When do we expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever? > > 5. YANG Catalog > - Putting yangcatalog.org in a Docker container -- Robert I have a containerized instance of yangcatalog that starts (even if the start is very rough). It is not yet clear if it actually all _works_. Determining that will require some manual inspection / sanity testing, and I will need help from the yangcatalog enthusiasts (particularly Eric and Benoit), and Pantheon to complete that. > > 6. Parking Lot > - Search over www, datatracker, and mailarchive > - Transition Datatracker to Django2 > - Transition Website to Django2 > > 7. AOB > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Mon Nov 11 23:33:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD731200A4 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 23:33:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8j-kVlQ_K3Cg for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 23:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 340DF120178 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 23:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF35203A8F; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 23:32:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kBiKu59fGv4s; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 23:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.0.217] (h210.212.133.40.static.ip.windstream.net [40.133.212.210]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D5E5203A8E; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 23:32:49 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Ryan Cross In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 23:33:09 -0800 Cc: IETF Tools Development Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8ADE8FF1-1179-4FB3-8A33-A643C3CC0F3F@amsl.com> References: To: Russ Housley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 12 November 2019 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 07:33:14 -0000 Regrets, I will not be able to attend the call tomorrow. One note inline. > On Nov 7, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > > Tools Call Agenda -- 12 November 2019 at 1:00 Eastern > > > JOIN WEBEX MEETING > https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m440dd848726339c03e605b9956e38bac > Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 > Meeting password: tools > > JOIN BY PHONE > 1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free number (US/Canada) > 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 > Meeting password: tools > > > 1. Datatracker Projects > - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik > -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN > - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA -- Robert > - Datatracker maintenance by DashCare -- Robert > - IRSG balloting by AKAYLA -- Robert > - Deployment of Python3 datatracker -- Robert > -- Impacts on related applications > > 2. Community & Other Projects > - WWW search to provide additional pointers -- Greg > -- Give pointers to datatracker and mailarchive > - Host third-party subresources on mailarchive -- Ryan These changes are made in the Python 3 branch. > > 3. RFC Services Projects > - RPC use of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Henrik > - Deploying in-line errata on rfc-editor.org? -- Alice > - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather > > 4. Server Infrastructure > - Expected Website Releases -- Robert > - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Henrik and Alexey > -- When do we expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever? > > 5. YANG Catalog > - Putting yangcatalog.org in a Docker container -- Robert > > 6. Parking Lot > - Search over www, datatracker, and mailarchive > - Transition Datatracker to Django2 > - Transition Website to Django2 > > 7. 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Tue, 12 Nov 2019 11:02:00 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Alissa Cooper In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 11:01:59 -0500 Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3CD7BDC0-EC85-4DFB-94D3-F0618E77E0F8@cooperw.in> References: To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 12 November 2019 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:02:06 -0000 Hi Robert, > On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 > My notes for the tools call: >=20 > On 11/7/19 9:22 PM, Russ Housley wrote: >> Tools Call Agenda -- 12 November 2019 at 1:00 Eastern >>=20 >>=20 >> JOIN WEBEX MEETING >> = https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm440dd848726339c03e605b9956e38bac= >> Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 >> Meeting password: tools >>=20 >> JOIN BY PHONE >> 1-877-668-4493 Call-in toll free number (US/Canada) >> 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) >> Meeting number (access code): 640 103 570 >> Meeting password: tools >>=20 >>=20 >> 1. Datatracker Projects >> - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik >> -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN > The PLAN has been stable for a few weeks. We've issued 7nreleases = since the last call, which is a higher rate than usual. These reflect = feature requests, the review tool maintenance work, and bugfixes coming = in. >> - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA -- Robert > Still not started, and communication has stopped. This has been = escalated to Jay and Portia. >> - Datatracker maintenance by DashCare -- Robert > This project continues to progress excellently. >> - IRSG balloting by AKAYLA -- Robert > I have started an acceptance review for this project. I expect to = complete it before the Singapore meeting starts. >> - Deployment of Python3 datatracker -- Robert >=20 > Currently gated two things: >=20 > 1) We need to wrap Trac in a container that can run Python 2.7, since = Trac won't become Python 3 ready until next year. This is the second = item on the PLAN. >=20 > 2) We want to coordinate this move with the upgrade the OS of the = underlying machines. We will be meeting later to work out a plan. >=20 >> -- Impacts on related applications >>=20 >> 2. Community & Other Projects >> - WWW search to provide additional pointers -- Greg >> -- Give pointers to datatracker and mailarchive >> - Host third-party subresources on mailarchive -- Ryan >>=20 >> 3. RFC Services Projects >> - RPC use of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Henrik >> - Deploying in-line errata on rfc-editor.org? -- Alice >> - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather > We had no acceptable bids to the RFP. >>=20 >> 4. Server Infrastructure >> - Expected Website Releases -- Robert >=20 > We have a matomo instrumented version of the website under test. >=20 > I don't expect major releases until well after the Singapore meeting. Do you have an approximate timing in mind? For planning purposes with = Greg, I=E2=80=99m wondering when the analytics will go live. Thanks, Alissa >=20 > The next major release will involve removing much of the unused = datatracker integration. >=20 >> - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Henrik and Alexey >> -- When do we expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever? >>=20 >> 5. YANG Catalog >> - Putting yangcatalog.org in a Docker container -- Robert >=20 > I have a containerized instance of yangcatalog that starts (even if = the start is very rough). >=20 > It is not yet clear if it actually all _works_. >=20 > Determining that will require some manual inspection / sanity testing, = and I will need help from the yangcatalog enthusiasts (particularly Eric = and Benoit), and Pantheon to complete that. >=20 >>=20 >> 6. Parking Lot >> - Search over www, datatracker, and mailarchive >> - Transition Datatracker to Django2 >> - Transition Website to Django2 >>=20 >> 7. AOB >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development From nobody Tue Nov 12 08:09:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F85812006E for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 08:09:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.979 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.979 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2LpNNdHggG4V for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 08:09:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66C3C12004A for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 08:09:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id xACG9iOq066122 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:09:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1573574985; bh=0YajsepJ9GuZgMj/EFfB9NooeDh68kCnT4hhwDRx00I=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=qxmDatyuZOfrdzgHUiZEHT3TrkNnzQ96EmlCso5Glbq9ySi4mS/XF7n0ZoUOa+J5S 2NOBw0jtzOr5Ea6moLx5ictFgWDtKV750ud6EqQP/LKzkqud/7KOQ7SCZ4D1hHH/Xd iCrJD2AQHW5Dpt6VfuDxEjPmt6nSUf3Bg+dzuesM= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: Alissa Cooper Cc: tools-development@ietf.org References: <3CD7BDC0-EC85-4DFB-94D3-F0618E77E0F8@cooperw.in> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <98720de6-24d9-b041-bee9-7042da61d878@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:09:43 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3CD7BDC0-EC85-4DFB-94D3-F0618E77E0F8@cooperw.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Call Agenda -- 12 November 2019 at 1:00 Eastern X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:09:51 -0000 On 11/12/19 10:01 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > Hi Robert, > >> On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> >> (trimming) >>> 4. Server Infrastructure >>> - Expected Website Releases -- Robert >> We have a matomo instrumented version of the website under test. >> >> I don't expect major releases until well after the Singapore meeting. > Do you have an approximate timing in mind? For planning purposes with Greg, I’m wondering when the analytics will go live. > > Thanks, > Alissa I don't have an approximate time for taking analytics live in mind, but I don't think I'm the long-pole in figuring that out. On my end, I need to work out a deployment detail (I've been waiting for the matomo maintainers to build a new docker image, and they did so last week), but I need to know if the prototype site needs to stay up for the policy review before I start poking at it. If so, when do you expect that to take place? 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Best regards, Cindy -- Tools Call Notes -- 12 November 2019 at 1:00 Eastern 0. Attendance - Glen Barney - Alissa Cooper - Jay Daley - Roman Danyliw - Russ Housley - Henrik Levkowetz - Cindy Morgan - Alexa Morris - Alice Russo - Robert Sparks - Portia Wenze-Danley - Eric Vyncke 1. Datatracker Projects - Expected Datatracker Releases -- Robert and Henrik -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN Robert via email: The PLAN has been stable for a few weeks. We've issued = 7nreleases since the last call, which is a higher rate than usual. These = reflect feature requests, the review tool maintenance work, and bugfixes = coming in. Russ: Are we going to pause during the meeting? Robert: I don't think so, but the releases will focus on the sprint = work. - Meeting Application Improvements by IOLA -- Robert Robert via email: Still not started, and communication has stopped. This = has been escalated to Jay and Portia. Robert: IOLA reached out to me, and they've started again. They are = investigating the request we made to focus on the model changes, so that = we have the pre-reqs out of the way to start the automatic scheduling = project, so I expect to hear back in a couple of days whether they can = get that part of the project in the next couple of weeks. Also expect to = hear then if they still think they can finish the project this year. Russ: I hope that's the case, or else January, otherwise we have a = budget issue. If they don't think they can finish, we should get them to = do some kind of a milestone so as much as possible gets invoiced this = year. - Datatracker maintenance by DashCare -- Robert Robert via email: This project continues to progress excellently. Robert: You'll note that in the releases over the last 6 weeks, a large = portion of the code has been from this project. It's now down to the = really hard part, the issue with key rotation. Working out what the = thing is supposed to be doing and Sasha is refactoring the code so we = can see if it's doing what we want it to, and has started on the second = review queuing policy. Russ: I'm really pleased this is working out so well. - IRSG balloting by AKAYLA -- Robert Robert via email: I have started an acceptance review for this project. = I expect to complete it before the Singapore meeting starts. Robert: I found one use case that wasn't well-implemented so he is = working on this, and I still expect this to finish this week or early = next. Russ: That's good to hear. - Deployment of Python3 datatracker -- Robert -- Impacts on related applications Robert via email: Currently gated two things: 1) We need to wrap Trac in = a container that can run Python 2.7, since Trac won't become Python 3 = ready until next year. This is the second item on the PLAN. 2) We want = to coordinate this move with the upgrade the OS of the underlying = machines. We will be meeting later to work out a plan. Russ: We talked about this last month. The Datatracker code is running = Python3 but there are other applications that can't, such as Trac, and = so the plan was to put this into a container. Robert: Containerizing Trac is the second bullet of the plan. It's going = to be coming up very soon and we will coordinate that with when to = deploy all of the Python3 applications. Planning to coordinate that with = the update to the underlying OS to the machine. My best guess is that = we'll try to get this done during the lull after the meeting. Russ: Glen, does that work with your thoughts about the OS? Glen: I think so, tentatively yes. Still some details to work out. 2. Community & Other Projects - WWW search to provide additional pointers -- Greg -- Give pointers to datatracker and mailarchive Russ: Part of this was moved to the parking lot last time. Instead = putting pointers in the Datatracker and the mailarchive. Greg had the = lead here, but I don't see him on the call. Robert: He is still planning to get to what he wants changed on the www = site. I will make similar changes to the Datatracker and ask Ryan to for = the mailarchive once we know what he's looking for. Russ: Maybe we can shore that up during the code sprint. - Host third-party subresources on mailarchive -- Ryan Russ: This is a privacy issue DKG raised. Ryan via email: These changes are made in the Python 3 branch. Robert: This will be deployed with the rest of the Python 3 work.=20 3. RFC Services Projects - RPC use of new RFC format tools -- Heather and Henrik Russ: RPC is using the new format tools. RFCs are being produced with = them. I don't know if there is anything more to say. I know Henrik has = been issuing updates for bugs as they find them. Henrik: To a large extent it's adjustments and features and schema = changes requested by the RPC. They are finding that they need mostly = small adjustments to the rendering or the schema. It's gradually moved = from the red ring issues for changes to schema features. So there's a = change and a slowdown. Alice: =46rom a user perspective, it's not schema changes, but output = not as expected. It's Henrik's discernment about whether that needs a = schema change or not. Russ: Glad to see we're converging and it's getting better. Alice: Yes, we really appreciate all of the releases, Henrik. - Deploying in-line errata on rfc-editor.org? -- Alice Russ: I think that happened. Alice: There is some forward progress to get them hosted in a directory = that's not the beta directory, and a plan for where the links should go. Russ: My most recent rsync had all of the HTML files.=20 - Security Review of RPC Tools -- Robert and Heather Robert via email: We had no acceptable bids to the RFP. Robert: Unless we know that we can expand the scope of who is likely to = reply, I don't think just reissuing the RFP will result in anything = different.=20 Russ: Can anyone here point us to people who might be interested in = doing the work? If anyone has a friend or colleague, please send a = pointer to me and Robert. Jay: If you want the RFP reissued, I'm happy to do that. I may also be = able to identify people. If anyone has other suggestions, maybe send = them to me and and I'll manage the RFP. Russ: That would be super.=20 4. Server Infrastructure - Expected Website Releases -- Robert Robert via email: We have a matomo instrumented version of the website = under test. I don't expect major releases until well after the Singapore = meeting. The next major release will involve removing much of the unused = datatracker integration. Robert: We have the analytics under test on the staging. What will have = to happen before it goes into production, a bit of back end. There is a = policy review that needs to take place and I don't know who owns it or = declares it done. Alissa: I think Greg and I can work on that together, and I think we can = start it now based on the staging site. I'll talk to Greg about it in = Singapore. Robert; I'll leave the prototype site up and will do the work to deploy = it after the policy review is complete. Alissa: I don't think these need to be gating on each other. Maybe give = us a couple of days to make sure we have the list. Robert: I think that also resolves the thread Roman and I have been = going back and forth on, the policy review will answer that question. Alissa: The policy review is we decide what new data we have that we're = requesting, and we have the counsel go over it to make sure we're still = in compliance with any laws. I thought your thread with Roman was about = what we wanted? Roman: Right, there are the things we want counsel's help on, and the = things we have to align with the needs of the user, and are we doing = what we said we would do. Russ: Does it do what we said it would do and no more? Roman: =46rom the comms I put on the list, I think there is some = ambiguity between the raw data and the aggregate data. I think it would = require another discussion with this community, but I think it's a bit = of a judgement call. Does sanitizing the IP address change it. We = defined raw data but not aggregate. Robert: A bit to do with IP masking but also not being able tie the = walkthrough that a particular user does to any particular user. Part of = what we want is to be able to see how people use the site, what is the = chain of pages. I don't think the community would be upset (as a whole) = if we do that, but a few individuals might raise their eyebrows. But we = can't track it back to any one user unless there's an edge case. Roman: We learned a lot and we can crisply define what is raw data and = what is aggregate data and go back with the feedback from the policy = review. So I think when we do the policy review we assume clickstream = data. Alissa: I suggest since Greg isn't here we find some time on Saturday to = talk about this together.=20 Roman: Concur, we can do something Saturday afternoon.=20 Russ: If we need to do another round with the community it would be good = to prime that pump with some kind of a comment at plenary.=20 Alissa: One more question. Originally Robert said that the next set of = updates would be long after Singapore, but it sounds like this can be = done whenever you've done your one more day of work? Robert: Yes. Alissa: Good.=20 - IESG discussions of DMARC -- Henrik and Alexey -- When do we expect the next release of OpenARC? Ever? Henrik: They have done a release and they promise to have it packaged = for our current OS in addition to getting it packaged for the upcoming = OS. I haven't verified it, but if we want to deploy it, it's a beta = release. If we want to deploy it, it should be possible. I don't think = we want to touch it before the meeting. I think wait until the server = upgrade is done and then start testing it on one or two lists. Russ: My memory is we were told it was merged into master but not = released? You're saying it was released as beta? Henrik: Yes. But whether we want to go with that or wait for 1.0, I = can't decide. But I think we want to wait until after the server = upgrade. Russ: So we are looking at later this year before we can even test it. = It would be good to get off the bespoke code and onto = somewhat-maintained open source code.=20 Henrik: I still think it's better to use the proper solution rather than = our work around, even if it serves our purpose for the moment.=20 5. YANG Catalog - Putting yangcatalog.org in a Docker container -- Robert Robert via email: I have a containerized instance of yangcatalog that = starts (even if the start is very rough). It is not yet clear if it = actually all _works_. Determining that will require some manual = inspection / sanity testing, and I will need help from the yangcatalog = enthusiasts (particularly Eric and Benoit), and Pantheon to complete = that. Robert: I expect this to pause until we get the 2020 contract in place. = I do have a containerized version of the entire site, but it's not clear = yet whether it works. Some of the things I'll ask for in 2020 is = smoothing out the startup. We'll need work from the yangcatalog experts = to check that the containerized version is doing what it supposed to be = doing.=20 Eric: Can we do it on Saturday in Singapore? Robert: I can have the site up so that you can poke out it. I will not = be in Singapore, so I'm out of phase, so there is time zone math needed = for coordination. Eric: So we can synchronize by email before. Robert: I do plan to participate in the code sprint remotely, so we can = at least have synchronous email.=20 6. Parking Lot - Search over www, datatracker, and mailarchive - Transition Datatracker to Django2 - Transition Website to Django2 7. AOB