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Our meeting slot is currently Monday, July 27th, 14:10 - 15:50 UTC.  =
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Note that, as usual, we do not have a tools call scheduled in August.
The next call after this one is currently scheduled for 8 September.

Please bash this agenda by email before we get to the meeting.

I've added my notes to the message below instead of replying separately 
this time.
If you have notes to add, please do so.

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1. Hot Topics
    - RFC Production blocking issues - Alice / Henrik
    - IETF 108 tooling support - Robert / Alexa / Henrik
    - Using the OpenID Connect / OAUTH2 provider - Robert
    - Addressing larger infrastructure and architectural issues - Robert
    - Are there any other priority tool changes needed?

2. Development Projects
    - Reimplementing the IETF website wagtail templates - Robert
    - Meeting Application Improvements (IOLA) - Robert
    - Automated Scheduler Part II (DashCare) - Robert
    - RPC Security Code Review (ZX Security) - Robert
    - YangCatalog (Pantheon) - Éric / Robert
    - Moving the datatracker to Django 2.2 - Robert
    - DMARC/SPF for aliases - Henrik
    - Capturing external resources in the datatracker - Robert
    - Github backups - Robert

3. Operations Projects
    - Are there any upcoming operations changes that need
      coordination with this team?

4. Planning for upcoming projects
    - Improving customization of calendars - Robert
    - Exploring fronting web services with nginx - Robert
    - Revising html/css/template structure for the website - Greg
    - Moving the datatracker to postgresql - Robert

5. Are there any unmet needs?
    - Open discussion

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My notes to help move the call along

 > 1. Hot Topics
 >    - RFC Production blocking issues - Alice / Henrik
 >    - IETF 108 tooling support - Robert / Alexa / Henrik

This has been the primary focus the last several weeks for many of us.
Between this and bufixes and contracted projects compeleting, there have
been six releases of the datatracker since the last call.

We are set up to use codimd instead of etherpad. We changed where codimd
was deployed to provide ipv6. We've modified it (and the datatracker) to
facilitate embedding codimd in frames in meetecho.

Having many activities the week before the meeting "starts" (from the
datatracker's perspective) has required manual work and creative solutions
so that things appear on the agenda as we want them to.

We have changed the configuration and a little code at the datatracker so
that meeting materials (agenda, slides, minutes, etc) will be served through
cloudflare.

 >   - Using the OpenID Connect / OAUTH2 provider - Robert

Now that we are running an identity provider, we're starting to get requests
to add clients.

So far, the clients we've added have been driven by meeting support. 
Meetecho
and codimd are set up. The programmers at gather.town are looking to see if
they can integrate. We're getting queries from the community on how to 
integrate,
including suggestions to use the provider for ietf.slack.com (which 
would involve
adding a SAML provider). The way we plan to deal with requests to add 
clients is
to have the tools implementation team vet the request, then make a 
recommendation
to the IESG for approval or rejection.

 >   - Addressing larger infrastructure and architectural issues - Robert

There are a set of things long in need of attention that we plan to work on
between IETF 108 and 109. These include:

   * Measuring and improving performance, particularly of the datatracker.
   * Simplifying the filesystem structure that is used across applications.
   * Removing the last dependencies on the www6 website pages.
   * Adjusting the way the www.ietf.org url namespace is used.

 >   - Are there any other priority tool changes needed?

 > 2. Development Projects
 >    - Reimplementing the IETF website wagtail templates - Robert

We have an RFP outstanding. It is about to enter the Q/A period with
questions due 13Jul, and answers due 20Jul. Bids are due 27Jul.
See: 
https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/RFP-WagtailDevelopment-20200629.pdf

 >    - Meeting Application Improvements (IOLA) - Robert

IOLA continues to make steady progress, but still has several deliverables
to complete.

 >    - Automated Scheduler Part II (DashCare) - Robert

This is complete and deployed. Early testing shows there are a few rule
additions we can make (easily) that would improve the algorithm. I am 
waiting
until after 108 to show the secretariat how to use it.

 >    - RPC Security Code Review (ZX Security) - Robert

The review is complete, and a (final?) report has been provided. The report
doesn't cover how issues were resolved since the RPC will be doing that 
work,
and have not yet completed it.

 >    - YangCatalog (Pantheon) - Éric / Robert

Yangcatalog is now running as a set of Docker containers. Development of web
frontends for the administration tasks that previously required shell access
is well underway. We expect to see this deployed into amazon's cloud in the
next few weeks.

 >    - Moving the datatracker to Django 2.2 - Robert

This is complete.

 >    - DMARC/SPF for aliases - Henrik
 >    - Capturing external resources in the datatracker - Robert

This should be ready to merge soon, possibly before the meeting.

 >    - Github backups - Robert

Martin's CI tool and the extra script to capture metadata from repositories
that are not using Marting's tool continue to improve. We are not yet making
our own backups of repositories, but expect to be doing so within the next
couple of weeks.

 >
 > 3. Operations Projects
 >    - Are there any upcoming operations changes that need
 >      coordination with this team?
 >
 > 4. Planning for upcoming projects
 >    - Improving customization of calendars - Robert

We are gathering quotes from several contractors to improve the customized
calendars on the main agenda page and to provide customized calendars for
upcoming meetings.

 >    - Exploring fronting web services with nginx - Robert

No progress this cycle.

 >    - Moving the datatracker to postgresql - Robert

This will be included in the optimization work mentioned above.
 >
 > 5. Are there any unmet needs?
 >    - Open discussion
 >
 > 6. Any Other Business


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Hi everyone,

Please see below for notes from yesterday=E2=80=99s tools call. A couple =
of reminders:=20

- There is no meeting in August, so our next call will be Tuesday 8 =
September.=20
- We will be using a new Webex bridge starting with the September call. =
I=E2=80=99ve updated the calendar and either Robert or I will make sure =
to send out the new link shortly before the meeting as well.=20

Thanks,

Liz Flynn
Project Manager / IETF
lflynn@amsl.com

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1. Hot Topics
   - RFC Production blocking issues - Alice / Henrik

Alice: We are having some ongoing discussions but nothing is blocking.

   - IETF 108 tooling support - Robert / Alexa / Henrik

This has been the primary focus the last several weeks for many of us.
Between this and bufixes and contracted projects compeleting, there have
been six releases of the datatracker since the last call.

We are set up to use codimd instead of etherpad. We changed where codimd
was deployed to provide ipv6. We've modified it (and the datatracker) to
facilitate embedding codimd in frames in meetecho.

Having many activities the week before the meeting "starts" (from the
datatracker's perspective) has required manual work and creative =
solutions
so that things appear on the agenda as we want them to.

We have changed the configuration and a little code at the datatracker =
so
that meeting materials (agenda, slides, minutes, etc) will be served =
through
cloudflare.


   - Using the OpenID Connect / OAUTH2 provider - Robert

Now that we are running an identity provider, we're starting to get =
requests
to add clients.

So far, the clients we've added have been driven by meeting support. =
Meetecho
and codimd are set up. The programmers at gather.town are looking to see =
if
they can integrate. We're getting queries from the community on how to =
integrate,
including suggestions to use the provider for ietf.slack.com (which =
would involve
adding a SAML provider). The way we plan to deal with requests to add =
clients is
to have the tools implementation team vet the request, then make a =
recommendation
to the IESG for approval or rejection.


   - Addressing larger infrastructure and architectural issues - Robert

There are a set of things long in need of attention that we plan to work =
on
between IETF 108 and 109. These include:

  * Measuring and improving performance, particularly of the =
datatracker.
  * Simplifying the filesystem structure that is used across =
applications.
  * Removing the last dependencies on the www6 website pages.
  * Adjusting the way the www.ietf.org url namespace is used.


   - Are there any other priority tool changes needed?
None mentioned.


2. Development Projects
   - Reimplementing the IETF website wagtail templates - Robert

An RFP is out now. See: =
https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/RFP-WagtailDevelopment-20200629.pdf

   - Meeting Application Improvements (IOLA) - Robert

IOLA continues to make steady progress, but still has several =
deliverables
to complete.

   - Automated Scheduler Part II (DashCare) - Robert

This has been completed and after IETF 108 will do a session with the =
Secretariat to show how it can be used. First set of testing we did in =
tools implementation group pointed out some improvements.=20

   - RPC Security Code Review (ZX Security) - Robert

The review is complete, and a (final?) report has been provided. The =
report
doesn't cover how issues were resolved since the RPC will be doing that =
work,
and have not yet completed it.

Alice estimates two months for their work.=20


   - YangCatalog (Pantheon) - =C3=89ric / Robert

Yangcatalog is now running as a set of Docker containers. Development of =
web
frontends for the administration tasks that previously required shell =
access
is well underway. We expect to see this deployed into amazon's cloud in =
the
next few weeks.

Web interface to administrative part. Things are progressing. Re =
containerized version,=20
First estimate to run on AWS is very expensive.


   - Moving the datatracker to Django 2.2 - Robert

This is complete.

   - DMARC/SPF for aliases - Henrik

Meeting work has overtaken this for now.

   - Capturing external resources in the datatracker - Robert

Ready to merge.=20

   - Github backups - Robert

Martin's CI tool and the extra script to capture metadata from =
repositories
that are not using Martin's tool continue to improve. We are not yet =
making
our own backups of repositories, but expect to be doing so within the =
next
couple of weeks.


3. Operations Projects
   - Are there any upcoming operations changes that need
     coordination with this team?

None mentioned.


4. Planning for upcoming projects
   - Improving customization of calendars - Robert

We are gathering quotes from several contractors to improve the =
customized
calendars on the main agenda page and to provide customized calendars =
for
upcoming meetings.=20

   - Exploring fronting web services with nginx - Robert

No progress this cycle.

   - Revising html/css/template structure for the website - Greg
   - Moving the datatracker to postgresql - Robert

This will be included in the optimization work mentioned above.

5. Are there any unmet needs?

None mentioned.



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class=3D"">Hi everyone,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Please see below for notes from yesterday=E2=80=99s tools =
call. A couple of reminders:&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
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next call will be Tuesday 8 September.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">- We =
will be using a new Webex bridge starting with the September call. =
I=E2=80=99ve updated the calendar and either Robert or I will make sure =
to send out the new link shortly before the meeting as =
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href=3D"mailto:lflynn@amsl.com" class=3D"">lflynn@amsl.com</a></div><div =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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class=3D""></div>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">1. Hot Topics</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;=
 &nbsp;- RFC Production blocking issues - Alice / Henrik</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Alice: We are having =
some ongoing discussions but nothing is blocking.</div><div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- IETF 108 tooling =
support - Robert / Alexa / Henrik</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">This has been the =
primary focus the last several weeks for many of us.</div><div =
class=3D"">Between this and bufixes and contracted projects compeleting, =
there have</div><div class=3D"">been six releases of the datatracker =
since the last call.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">We are set up to use codimd instead of etherpad. We changed =
where codimd</div><div class=3D"">was deployed to provide ipv6. We've =
modified it (and the datatracker) to</div><div class=3D"">facilitate =
embedding codimd in frames in meetecho.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Having many activities the week before =
the meeting "starts" (from the</div><div class=3D"">datatracker's =
perspective) has required manual work and creative solutions</div><div =
class=3D"">so that things appear on the agenda as we want them =
to.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">We have =
changed the configuration and a little code at the datatracker =
so</div><div class=3D"">that meeting materials (agenda, slides, minutes, =
etc) will be served through</div><div =
class=3D"">cloudflare.</div></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- Using the OpenID Connect / OAUTH2 provider - =
Robert</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Now =
that we are running an identity provider, we're starting to get =
requests</div><div class=3D"">to add clients.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">So far, the clients we've added have =
been driven by meeting support. Meetecho</div><div class=3D"">and codimd =
are set up. The programmers at gather.town are looking to see =
if</div><div class=3D"">they can integrate. We're getting queries from =
the community on how to integrate,</div><div class=3D"">including =
suggestions to use the provider for <a href=3D"http://ietf.slack.com" =
class=3D"">ietf.slack.com</a> (which would involve</div><div =
class=3D"">adding a SAML provider). The way we plan to deal with =
requests to add clients is</div><div class=3D"">to have the tools =
implementation team vet the request, then make a =
recommendation</div><div class=3D"">to the IESG for approval or =
rejection.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- Addressing larger =
infrastructure and architectural issues - Robert</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">There are a set of things long in need =
of attention that we plan to work on</div><div class=3D"">between IETF =
108 and 109. These include:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D"">&nbsp; * Measuring and improving performance, particularly =
of the datatracker.</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; * Simplifying the =
filesystem structure that is used across applications.</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; * Removing the last dependencies on the www6 website =
pages.</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; * Adjusting the way the <a =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org" class=3D"">www.ietf.org</a> url namespace =
is used.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- Are there any other =
priority tool changes needed?</div><div class=3D"">None =
mentioned.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">2. Development Projects</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- Reimplementing the IETF website wagtail =
templates - Robert</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">An RFP is out now. See: <a =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/RFP-WagtailDevelopment-202006=
29.pdf" =
class=3D"">https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/RFP-WagtailDevelopment-202=
00629.pdf</a></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- Meeting Application Improvements (IOLA) - =
Robert</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">IOLA continues to make steady progress, but still has several =
deliverables</div><div class=3D"">to complete.</div></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- Automated =
Scheduler Part II (DashCare) - Robert</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This has been completed and after IETF =
108 will do a session with the Secretariat to show how it can be used. =
First set of testing we did in tools implementation group pointed out =
some improvements.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- RPC Security Code Review (ZX Security) - =
Robert</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The =
review is complete, and a (final?) report has been provided. The =
report</div><div class=3D"">doesn't cover how issues were resolved since =
the RPC will be doing that work,</div><div class=3D"">and have not yet =
completed it.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Alice estimates two months for their work.&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- YangCatalog (Pantheon) - =C3=89ric / =
Robert</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Yangcatalog is now running as a set of Docker containers. =
Development of web</div><div class=3D"">frontends for the administration =
tasks that previously required shell access</div><div class=3D"">is well =
underway. We expect to see this deployed into amazon's cloud in =
the</div><div class=3D"">next few weeks.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Web interface to administrative part. =
Things are progressing. Re containerized version,&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"">First estimate to run on AWS is very expensive.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- Moving the datatracker to Django 2.2 - =
Robert</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This is =
complete.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;=
 &nbsp;- DMARC/SPF for aliases - Henrik</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Meeting work has overtaken this for =
now.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; =
&nbsp;- Capturing external resources in the datatracker - =
Robert</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Ready =
to merge.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- Github backups - Robert</div><div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Martin's CI tool and the extra script =
to capture metadata from repositories</div><div class=3D"">that are not =
using Martin's tool continue to improve. We are not yet making</div><div =
class=3D"">our own backups of repositories, but expect to be doing so =
within the next</div><div class=3D"">couple of weeks.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">3. Operations Projects</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- =
Are there any upcoming operations changes that need</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;coordination with this team?</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">None =
mentioned.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">4. Planning for upcoming =
projects</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- Improving customization of =
calendars - Robert</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">We are gathering quotes from several contractors to improve =
the customized</div><div class=3D"">calendars on the main agenda page =
and to provide customized calendars for</div><div class=3D"">upcoming =
meetings.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- Exploring fronting web services with nginx - =
Robert</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">No =
progress this cycle.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- Revising html/css/template structure for the =
website - Greg</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;- Moving the =
datatracker to postgresql - Robert</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This will be included in the =
optimization work mentioned above.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">5. Are there any unmet needs?</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">None =
mentioned.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div>
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Hello Tools Team & TAS Team,

During the IAB Open meeting at IETF 108, the IAB shared its proposal for =
a program on Evolvability, Deployability, and Maintainability (EDM). =
This is a program aimed at looking at how we design, develop, and =
maintain IETF protocols, and how these processes impact the flexibility =
and evolvability of the protocols.

As part of the program, we want to talk about how we can have various =
IETF tools provide or hook into resources working groups provide for =
tracking implementation status, interoperability testing, and =
coordinating experimentation plans. These are items that some groups =
provide in their own GitHub pages and Google docs, but we=E2=80=99d like =
to discuss a =E2=80=9Cpreferred=E2=80=9D way that has low overhead for =
setup.

For this, it will be important to have input and thoughts from your =
teams.

Slides can be found here:
=
https://github.com/intarchboard/iabopen/blob/master/ietf108/IETF-108-IABOP=
EN.pdf =
<https://github.com/intarchboard/iabopen/blob/master/ietf108/IETF-108-IABO=
PEN.pdf>

If you=E2=80=99re interested in joining these discussions, please let me =
know, and join the mailing list:
edm@iab.org <mailto:edm@iab.org>
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hello=
 Tools Team &amp; TAS Team,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">During the IAB Open meeting at IETF 108, the IAB shared its =
proposal for a program on Evolvability, Deployability, and =
Maintainability (EDM). This is a program aimed at looking at how we =
design, develop, and maintain IETF protocols, and how these processes =
impact the flexibility and evolvability of the protocols.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">As part of the program, =
we want to talk about how we can have various IETF tools provide or hook =
into resources working groups provide for tracking implementation =
status, interoperability testing, and coordinating experimentation =
plans. These are items that some groups provide in their own GitHub =
pages and Google docs, but we=E2=80=99d like to discuss a =
=E2=80=9Cpreferred=E2=80=9D way that has low overhead for =
setup.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">For =
this, it will be important to have input and thoughts from your =
teams.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Slides =
can be found here:</div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://github.com/intarchboard/iabopen/blob/master/ietf108/IETF-1=
08-IABOPEN.pdf" =
class=3D"">https://github.com/intarchboard/iabopen/blob/master/ietf108/IET=
F-108-IABOPEN.pdf</a></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">If you=E2=80=99re interested in joining these discussions, =
please let me know, and join the mailing list:</div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:edm@iab.org" class=3D"">edm@iab.org</a></div><div =
class=3D""><a href=3D"https://www.iab.org/mailman/listinfo/edm" =
class=3D"">https://www.iab.org/mailman/listinfo/edm</a></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Best,</div><div =
class=3D"">Tommy</div></div></body></html>=

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