From nobody Wed Jul 1 20:34:59 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31473A0ABD for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:34:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VDb5f0umFYjm for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jays-mbp.localdomain (unknown [158.140.230.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B4893A0BD4 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:34:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Daley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Message-Id: <5243185A-F562-4637-ACB3-D295C096C0ED@ietf.org> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 15:34:00 +1200 To: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-implementation] Archived content served by HTTP, rsync and FTP X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 03:34:12 -0000 Hi Your revival of the plan to turn off FTP (yay) reminded me to write up = what I learnt about our archived content served by HTTP, rsync and FTP, = which you might find useful = https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BfxF33MN_GNwEc_taZrCBPFRUz1nhyqouu-e88= ILuP4/edit?usp=3Dsharing I=E2=80=99ve suggested to Roman that if the pushback to turning off FTP = continues then perhaps this needs to be addressed by an overall rethink = of how we provide reference archives covering the full list of data and = all the access mechanisms. 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Thu, 2 Jul 2020 04:44:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.3.0-dev0-576-gfe2cd66-fm-20200629.001-gfe2cd668 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <339a7a01-d215-4506-9c95-33238a1f4ab7@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5243185A-F562-4637-ACB3-D295C096C0ED@ietf.org> References: <5243185A-F562-4637-ACB3-D295C096C0ED@ietf.org> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 09:42:27 +0100 From: "Alexey Melnikov" To: "Jay Daley" , tools-implementation@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-implementation] =?utf-8?b?PT9VVEYtOD9RP1JlOl9fQXJjaGl2?= =?utf-8?q?ed=5Fcontent=5Fserved=5Fby=5FHTTP=2C_=5Frs=3F=3D_ync_and_FTP?= X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 08:44:06 -0000 Hi Jay, On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 4:34 AM, Jay Daley wrote: > Hi >=20 > Your revival of the plan to turn off FTP (yay) reminded me to write up= =20 > what I learnt about our archived content served by HTTP, rsync and FTP= ,=20 > which you might find useful >=20 > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BfxF33MN_GNwEc_taZrCBPFRUz1nhyqou= u-e88ILuP4/edit?usp=3Dsharing Your list includes "iana-timezone". Is this something under control of I= ANA or is it just a historic archive? If it is under IANA's control, I don't think we (IETF) have the right ti= decide to turn off FTP for this part. Best Regards, Alexey > I=E2=80=99ve suggested to Roman that if the pushback to turning off FT= P=20 > continues then perhaps this needs to be addressed by an overall rethin= k=20 > of how we provide reference archives covering the full list of data an= d=20 > all the access mechanisms. >=20 > Jay >=20 > --=20 > Jay Daley > IETF Executive Director > jay@ietf.org >=20 > --=20 > Tools-implementation mailing list > Tools-implementation@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-implementation > From nobody Thu Jul 2 02:06:54 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7E83A0820 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 02:06:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UuNFy9eQJVTb; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 02:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.49] (unknown [158.140.230.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31D793A0823; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 02:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-37FBFAF1-BE8E-4F5E-A387-54B9AB95EA1A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jay Daley Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 21:06:44 +1200 Message-Id: References: <339a7a01-d215-4506-9c95-33238a1f4ab7@www.fastmail.com> Cc: tools-implementation@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <339a7a01-d215-4506-9c95-33238a1f4ab7@www.fastmail.com> To: Alexey Melnikov X-Mailer: iPad Mail (17F80) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Archived content served by HTTP, rsync and FTP X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 09:06:52 -0000 --Apple-Mail-37FBFAF1-BE8E-4F5E-A387-54B9AB95EA1A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alexey > On 2/07/2020, at 8:44 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFHi Jay, >=20 >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 4:34 AM, Jay Daley wrote: >> Hi >>=20 >> Your revival of the plan to turn off FTP (yay) reminded me to write up=20= >> what I learnt about our archived content served by HTTP, rsync and FTP,=20= >> which you might find useful >>=20 >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BfxF33MN_GNwEc_taZrCBPFRUz1nhyqouu= -e88ILuP4/edit?usp=3Dsharing >=20 > Your list includes "iana-timezone". Is this something under control of IAN= A or is it just a historic archive? > If it is under IANA's control, I don't think we (IETF) have the right ti d= ecide to turn off FTP for this part. It=E2=80=99s a mirror of the IANA timezone database at https://www.iana.org/= time-zones The protocol parameter registries are similarly mirrored.=20 Jay --=20 Jay Daley IETF Executive Director >=20 > Best Regards, > Alexey >=20 >> I=E2=80=99ve suggested to Roman that if the pushback to turning off FTP=20= >> continues then perhaps this needs to be addressed by an overall rethink=20= >> of how we provide reference archives covering the full list of data and=20= >> all the access mechanisms. >>=20 >> Jay >>=20 >> --=20 >> Jay Daley >> IETF Executive Director >> jay@ietf.org >>=20 >> --=20 >> Tools-implementation mailing list >> Tools-implementation@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-implementation >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-37FBFAF1-BE8E-4F5E-A387-54B9AB95EA1A Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alexey

=
On 2/07/2020, at 8:44 PM, Alexey Melnikov <aame= lnikov@fastmail.fm> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFHi Jay,

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 4:34 AM, Jay Daley wrote:
Hi

Your revival of the= plan to turn off FTP (yay) reminded me to write up
=
what I learnt about our archived content ser= ved by HTTP, rsync and FTP,
which you might find useful

 =  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BfxF33MN_GNwEc_taZrCBPFRUz1nhyqou= u-e88ILuP4/edit?usp=3Dsharing

= Your list includes "iana-timezone". Is this something under control of IANA o= r is it just a historic archive?
If it is under IANA's contr= ol, I don't think we (IETF) have the right ti decide to turn off FTP for thi= s part.

It=E2=80=99s a mirror of= the IANA timezone database at https://www.iana.org/time-zones

The protocol parameter regist= ries are similarly mirrored. 

Jay
--&nbs= p;
Jay= Daley
IETF Executive Director

=

Best Regards,
Alexey=

I=E2=80=99ve sug= gested to Roman that if the pushback to turning off FTP
continues then perhaps this needs to be a= ddressed by an overall rethink
of how we provide reference archives covering the full list of da= ta and
all the acces= s mechanisms.
=
Jay
=

--
Jay D= aley
IETF Executive D= irector
jay@ietf.org<= /span>

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https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinf= o/tools-implementation


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Thu, 2 Jul 2020 05:45:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.3.0-dev0-576-gfe2cd66-fm-20200629.001-gfe2cd668 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <09d2149b-beae-42db-9a6e-077e766b621a@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <339a7a01-d215-4506-9c95-33238a1f4ab7@www.fastmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 10:44:37 +0100 From: "Alexey Melnikov" To: "Jay Daley" Cc: tools-implementation@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=a1ef6caa43584c419d154a0de3844c01 Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-implementation] =?utf-8?b?PT9VVEYtOD9RP1JlOl9fQXJjaGl2?= =?utf-8?q?ed=5Fcontent=5Fserved=5Fby=5FHTTP=2C_=5Frs=3F=3D_ync_and_FTP?= X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 09:45:15 -0000 --a1ef6caa43584c419d154a0de3844c01 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Jay Daley wrote: > Alexey >=20 >> On 2/07/2020, at 8:44 PM, Alexey Melnikov wr= ote: >> Hi Jay, >>=20 >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 4:34 AM, Jay Daley wrote: >>> Hi >>>=20 >>> Your revival of the plan to turn off FTP (yay) reminded me to write = up=20 >>> what I learnt about our archived content served by HTTP, rsync and F= TP,=20 >>> which you might find useful >>>=20 >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BfxF33MN_GNwEc_taZrCBPFRUz1nhyq= ouu-e88ILuP4/edit?usp=3Dsharing >>=20 >> Your list includes "iana-timezone". Is this something under control o= f IANA or is it just a historic archive? >> If it is under IANA's control, I don't think we (IETF) have the right= ti decide to turn off FTP for this part. >=20 > It=E2=80=99s a mirror of the IANA timezone database at https://www.ian= a.org/time-zones >=20 > The protocol parameter registries are similarly mirrored.=20 Ok. So I think this means that IANA can decide by themselves whether the= y want to keep FTP access, but IETF can decide whether to keep FTP acces= s to the mirrored data. I think this is fair. >=20 > Jay > --=20 > Jay Daley > IETF Executive Director >=20 >>=20 >> Best Regards, >> Alexey >>=20 >>> I=E2=80=99ve suggested to Roman that if the pushback to turning off = FTP=20 >>> continues then perhaps this needs to be addressed by an overall reth= ink=20 >>> of how we provide reference archives covering the full list of data = and=20 >>> all the access mechanisms. >>>=20 >>> Jay >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Jay Daley >>> IETF Executive Director >>> jay@ietf.org >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Tools-implementation mailing list >>> Tools-implementation@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-implementation >>>=20 >>=20 --a1ef6caa43584c419d154a0de3844c01 Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Jul 2, = 2020, at 10:06 AM, Jay Daley wrote:
Alexey

On 2/07/2020, at 8:44 PM, Alexey Me= lnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> wrote:
=EF=BB=BFHi Jay,<= /span>

On Thu, Jul 2, 20= 20, at 4:34 AM, Jay Daley wrote:
Hi

Your revival of the p= lan to turn off FTP (yay) reminded me to write up
what I learnt about our archived conte= nt served by HTTP, rsync and FTP,
which you might find useful

   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BfxF33MN_G= NwEc_taZrCBPFRUz1nhyqouu-e88ILuP4/edit?usp=3Dsharing

Your list includes "iana-time= zone". Is this something under control of IANA or is it just a historic = archive?
If it is under IANA's control, I don= 't think we (IETF) have the right ti decide to turn off FTP for this par= t.

It=E2=80=99s a= mirror of the IANA timezone database at https://www.iana.org/time-zones

=
The protocol parameter registries are similarly mirrored.&nbs= p;

Ok. So I think this m= eans that IANA can decide by themselves whether they want to keep FTP ac= cess, but IETF can decide whether to keep FTP access to the mirrored dat= a. I think this is fair.


Jay
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IETF Executive Director


Best Rega= rds,
Alexey

I=E2=80=99ve suggested to Rom= an that if the pushback to turning off FTP
continues then perhaps this needs to be addre= ssed by an overall rethink
of how we provide reference archives covering the full list o= f data and
all t= he access mechanisms.
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Jay<= br>

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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-implementation] Beginnings of a sketch to help with tomorrow's brainstorming session X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 18:33:56 -0000 Please ferociously add to, edit, and or restructure https://codimd.ietf.org/ti-brainstorming-2020-07 RjS From nobody Tue Jul 7 10:50:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627493A07E5 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 10:50:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-implementation] Setting up the next set of calls X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 17:50:54 -0000 As discussed today, we're currently thinking of having our next calls on 21Jul : 1500-1600 UTC 10Aug: 1500-1700 UTC Roman - would you be able to make those times? From nobody Tue Jul 7 13:17:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836F73A0A27 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:17:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wSHMtuRCHs6M for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 430BD3A0A25 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 067KH1qW040560 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 15:17:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1594153022; bh=u/RZUBXrOBJyox7Hx6QPSX4BQ670uWgWbf3CWeSoBng=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=lo8HL4DHd8IpqExV+q5gh3Kw+e6jwCWuQg4rElec1zdH9mShUGGppVMc10uDIiVeD ojQDOQnNkWbr5SehBVSyTjIZOUb0F6PxWHlFlyGWHpFqUFGCPX12mmrnTJ8BCmmfDH mWLPBjGrwjb/yA9IKOw0XJc2gP3s1wbNQNthqxuk= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: tools-implementation@ietf.org References: <1ffe6ec5-2021-eab8-4932-b31097b2f9d9@nostrum.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 15:17:01 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1ffe6ec5-2021-eab8-4932-b31097b2f9d9@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Dispatch for https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/2695 X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 20:17:05 -0000 Any opinions here? If you don't know enough to have an opinion, what information can I provide that would help? RjS On 6/30/20 5:29 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > Please read through https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/2695 > > The key issue here is that, right now, we can't use markdown for > charters. > > To allow it, and keep the workflow similar to what we have now, we > would need to add controls to the form that lets the AD edit so the AD > can tell us if the charter is plain text or markdown. > > The alternative is to only allow uploads as Tom suggests. If I were an > AD that would irritate me mightily. > > It also might mean a model addition to keep the intended type (or some > surgery if we want to keep the type in a file extension). > > Consideration to diffs when things change from text to md need to be > considered. I suspect we diff text against md source (and md source > against md source for that kind of revision). > > What else am I missing? > > RjS > From nobody Wed Jul 8 13:01:36 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B403A07A2 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:01:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BnEqLT2XcDH3 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B14763A07A1 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 068K1S5r093290 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:01:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1594238490; bh=mUAMpDK3j2UBUgDmJcJimaevnKD/zJii+jd+VXN33Nw=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=W4QkOjhebbbDzdAQghpDxrGUb13DkFpZWZa+4Vcne/A3SEBd4npQtdm1MmKSsPsoU OEUuQ44aVddaSP5T8dcQbKXPWQD8CUOcJjf8LF1PelHv/GfBqGQBvC4zjZxFIcIeZu NU9cHgtFBz5ng3uCvTS3HNl28LGH/pTJXUmp3Xo8= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: "tools-implementation@ietf.org" From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:01:28 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-implementation] Github backups X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 20:01:34 -0000 Glen - I'd like to try to get a first round of wg github repository backups made before next Tuesday's tools call. I'm planning to do this manually at first, and use what I learn to decide where to put the automation. What directory should I put these in? Assume they will be large-ish (quic's was ~20Mb when I last looked). RjS From nobody Wed Jul 8 13:37:16 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969AD3A07B3 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:37:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HmFvaj2BW6cZ for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 810B23A07B0 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 068KbCZv001983 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:37:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1594240634; bh=zDSbvoMVON9V4rdjqEPQD2vBAhYLykLWVWSmxQCEf10=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=vndtttxhaXVRfzSIiAn8d0xQB6FIrhcprhJnMxk5gqWx4avEY+3BgLjuJTB2sEng8 kifGb5PrTy9SXtWmVS0N45vMcYQSjYceYBNrF8RDvETS3Mkj3/TaPsYrYn5gVygHMw JthhaPDg5oDrcfr7xkl4N103CIQIdH6z7O3rDrZQ= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: "tools-implementation@ietf.org" From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:37:12 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-implementation] Datadog docker integration X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 20:37:16 -0000 I'm looking at datadog. From a few minutes of playing with it, I think the docker integration monitoring it does could be useful to us. See https://www.nostrum.com/~rjsparks/datadog_example.png for an example of it monitoring docker on my laptop for a little while. Does anyone (particularly Glen) object to me running an agent on ietfa? It entails just running another docker image, and can easily be stopped at any time. RjS From nobody Wed Jul 8 14:25:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5133A0063 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:25:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n9qPyLCzr-U3 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 151D43A0044 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B229300B2B for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:24:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id tMmJG05BhLkf for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (pool-72-66-113-56.washdc.fios.verizon.net [72.66.113.56]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 60FEA300B70; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.14\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:24:56 -0400 Cc: "tools-implementation@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8AC0170F-B58D-4FBF-A71B-2522CBEF73EB@vigilsec.com> References: To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.14) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Github backups X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:25:09 -0000 My assumption is that these will not be public. That is a ticket will = be needed for the Secretarit do do anything with the backup copy. Russ > On Jul 8, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 > Glen - >=20 > I'd like to try to get a first round of wg github repository backups = made before next Tuesday's tools call. I'm planning to do this manually = at first, and use what I learn to decide where to put the automation. >=20 > What directory should I put these in? Assume they will be large-ish = (quic's was ~20Mb when I last looked). >=20 > RjS >=20 > --=20 > Tools-implementation mailing list > Tools-implementation@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-implementation From nobody Wed Jul 8 14:26:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910CD3A0044 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:26:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CogZdCmv7MFH for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C0F83A003E for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 068LQ4lO013742 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:26:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1594243565; bh=ihB1l/7K41AYFputXqwJ07ruO9ggYKb+OoSmASpRoK0=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=fBXuqhk+F9ji+LhRJFmpfY9DoSu+LRfzeRU1iCYg1yBVaHaPLqfaDsmMOpGNhaKa9 YQFIppAuKYQKfYF+6oWz/zZGnwGnfswkfOy6EaFZBZNEvVG5CNPdmM/b8ihLmTSkO1 VnHbrvC9+Nrjty+9j3rSyB1T1VihCVAn+0aI/z0o= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: Russ Housley Cc: "tools-implementation@ietf.org" References: <8AC0170F-B58D-4FBF-A71B-2522CBEF73EB@vigilsec.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <7fbcccb8-4c4a-b943-083b-d7a680112d9a@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:26:04 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8AC0170F-B58D-4FBF-A71B-2522CBEF73EB@vigilsec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Github backups X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:26:10 -0000 That matches my expectation. On 7/8/20 4:24 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > My assumption is that these will not be public. That is a ticket will be needed for the Secretarit do do anything with the backup copy. > > Russ > > >> On Jul 8, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> >> Glen - >> >> I'd like to try to get a first round of wg github repository backups made before next Tuesday's tools call. I'm planning to do this manually at first, and use what I learn to decide where to put the automation. >> >> What directory should I put these in? Assume they will be large-ish (quic's was ~20Mb when I last looked). >> >> RjS >> >> -- >> Tools-implementation mailing list >> Tools-implementation@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-implementation From nobody Wed Jul 8 15:03:38 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D983A083D for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:03:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OQHTRYQ3mTPW for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60DBC3A0831 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BC47202174 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi1-f169.google.com (mail-oi1-f169.google.com [209.85.167.169]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1B83C2020D6 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 14:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi1-f169.google.com with SMTP id x83so212197oif.10 for ; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5300/R9Wc29CYA+dIfylmvF1f563K3eNvpcvQ3jzuO9pjYNHU+C/ Kj7Ntwd9v6SZbvplby04AMIeezAog6gqxu+Qn9M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzJPZI6rOMiiQVreo8T2Z2a5I0ki2Tk1Y8gakNvT94qLrGtZg6eTO9GAmPMbaWGAJaR+u/lLHGC5ZuFrFUjDek= X-Received: by 2002:aca:4754:: with SMTP id u81mr8966700oia.29.1594245813601; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 15:03:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Glen Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:03:22 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: "tools-implementation@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Github backups X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 22:03:37 -0000 How about /a/githubbackup - I've created it and assigned it to you. Glen On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:01 PM Robert Sparks wrote: > > Glen - > > I'd like to try to get a first round of wg github repository backups > made before next Tuesday's tools call. I'm planning to do this manually > at first, and use what I learn to decide where to put the automation. > > What directory should I put these in? Assume they will be large-ish > (quic's was ~20Mb when I last looked). > > RjS > > -- > Tools-implementation mailing list > Tools-implementation@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-implementation > From nobody Wed Jul 8 15:04:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06ECD3A0896 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:04:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id saw7wxZS_vvd for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D63003A0889 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1D1E203328 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi1-f180.google.com (mail-oi1-f180.google.com [209.85.167.180]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 96815203325 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi1-f180.google.com with SMTP id k4so252735oik.2 for ; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 15:04:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5321xVs6JnnrvxaHCgH8QooGt9P6xrSaLsT0aNmuO90E02x1Fcou vF3HySkeBacHj0HbIxns4/mvMZMZ1MBDxQKoAJY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwciZsglsmXApFkjRo3Xgu/rR+50+ROAvQNYujWN5Edtbey9lU/JpSyQ3f17g8jI6rsScpMQ2X0l3wpL/QKMy0= X-Received: by 2002:a54:4486:: with SMTP id v6mr8440648oiv.138.1594245856127; Wed, 08 Jul 2020 15:04:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Glen Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:04:05 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: "tools-implementation@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Datadog docker integration X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 22:04:24 -0000 On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:37 PM Robert Sparks wrote: > I'm looking at datadog. From a few minutes of playing with it, I think > the docker integration monitoring it does could be useful to us. > Does anyone (particularly Glen) object to me running an agent on ietfa? No objection, thank you! Glen From nobody Thu Jul 9 02:08:49 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECC93A0974 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:08:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.096 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.096 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fastmail.fm header.b=ahri47RS; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=p+CKPDI2 Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bumG224TnGDk for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44F673A0975 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 02:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874FA60D; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 05:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 09 Jul 2020 05:08:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=fm3; bh=6 sxEur1D2HaRyWsotMLX34PwCe5I9fWj5CvblyOHh10=; b=ahri47RSbnVt+DnSH eL3VlQZFpq7+yXFmU9YZbyohJ0JmJ2oiO1L3NKPI8ImObqc//ccGb6r3NZFgiew4 lyTiw0qQYW1p7mbgKvMyklnhHxJwVkRITo6yKsdAr5pyOkFFZ8jFb7FeU/hFNHMY xsU8ZWh+TLzHthY1wHqzg7yfg7ZWMOFd27IcETAFoIbnAlEvygNLQ4iyJMviEe4z zLv9zmQx96KPV88Rit693zdAQTfYxL7StZT+3q45xaqun6CbgggyZp1Es5Rfmv0j j2U/RLys73Lg/1RspN/35SGIzdKESrsyxeM3Zwd19rKdRrLjqQfZX5FSDkAnIeGn qkM/Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=6sxEur1D2HaRyWsotMLX34PwCe5I9fWj5CvblyOHh 10=; b=p+CKPDI2kgrezkscN1B4gAwPB3L4Glp9ciaZXuSzXmIDEKquyvswSEn6t ciJlX45pQG0N+aPQ4LgeSxD+U4RcqMRUfaC4f+URKJW/phBkeay3BIfR350isriU RPY4fXD8aABqu19V9OxQgXbhR6yUm9O4PJph1D6alaODWUugjaOFru4Pxm7zU/8Q le4fAJCozDsS6M4Zacg93JFx2/WoVsBJDH2aQCO+gjY626bvhP+mFXExeIPft6Gj OYAnCmCBDkCpwNVKGgtvaCmOaQndzEVDqPPzXOWqP8E4esgvz0GnTeb8usYooiB8 66OqAZKF8OH4vLWP6/MiYzw7brm5Q== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduiedrudelgdduudcutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpefuvfhfhffkffgfgggjtgfgsehtjeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpeetlhgvgigv hicuofgvlhhnihhkohhvuceorggrmhgvlhhnihhkohhvsehfrghsthhmrghilhdrfhhmqe enucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeejtdffvdeufedvgfdtkefhteevtdfgleegvdfffeetieeh ueelueefvdfhhefhtdenucffohhmrghinhepnhhoshhtrhhumhdrtghomhenucfkphepke durdduhedurdefjedrudejvdenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhep mhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegrrghmvghlnhhikhhovhesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrdhfmh X-ME-Proxy: Received: from [192.168.1.222] (host81-151-37-172.range81-151.btcentralplus.com [81.151.37.172]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 990B2328005D; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 05:08:45 -0400 (EDT) To: Robert Sparks , "tools-implementation@ietf.org" References: From: Alexey Melnikov Message-ID: <44d08052-d245-0fe8-389e-ce2be948c18b@fastmail.fm> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 10:08:20 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Datadog docker integration X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 09:08:48 -0000 On 08/07/2020 21:37, Robert Sparks wrote: > I'm looking at datadog. From a few minutes of playing with it, I think > the docker integration monitoring it does could be useful to us. > > See https://www.nostrum.com/~rjsparks/datadog_example.png for an > example of it monitoring docker on my laptop for a little while. > > Does anyone (particularly Glen) object to me running an agent on > ietfa? It entails just running another docker image, and can easily be > stopped at any time. It looks nice, so worth trying. From nobody Thu Jul 9 12:48:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4660E3A0E6C for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:48:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GMZYM2NQVIm6 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0ECD83A03F6 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 069JmJ5u017714 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:48:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1594324101; bh=0iuRQLLQreobSl7+ryhLX1dRexYeF97/fsI+JUGFBHQ=; h=To:Cc:From:Subject:Date; b=wLi+UOmcPEiSJ5BpQescMPdGECHbTXLigWcn9/XfTx714mbUg0n64Repwhk0hd945 6zGEzx3S15WG+kkdH4cjE/zv/o1uxNqA2KLydiJY/CZugZXKQPPMAEIm3r39EOK02S 34snIg7v47M1KQ5fBory0z0u925oTNFeEs4WELHY= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: "tools-implementation@ietf.org" Cc: ryan Cross From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <6e570627-6035-8cd8-d47d-800b2de6a671@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:48:19 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-implementation] Workflow change for requesting meetings (ticket #3005) X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 19:48:23 -0000 See Does anyone want to argue for not making the change proposed there? RjS From nobody Thu Jul 9 12:56:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04403A0112 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:56:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WFXIO5tORX-D for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8373E3A00E0 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 069JuJsK019468 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:56:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1594324580; bh=zd2SgM/55ngOrAoi4e3QHpBJ6puq6QoFc2NdTqT1rSo=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=nKno9j5Yz7leOYWtNUw0yO76iI8nzgMbPzMCbkVvGMQOpCJ4dPHb5DfbRlc0oSOCQ bzSOaOLiLSJ+Txqr0uFTEHwanlJ5Hss5rh1j6QElU7c3KhOBd/WfnGRteNUkoZEJdN WQjhjCVPKyUnzp6N+Mts/LRHzQ1rak3OE5BVsHiA= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: "tools-implementation@ietf.org" From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <256690cd-288e-e18f-8fbb-2d8180df1733@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:56:19 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-implementation] Two tickets related to interim-requests in pending or awaiting announcement state X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 19:56:24 -0000 See and . I propose we always show pending meeting requests to everyone (as noted in 2929) and given the logic argued there, also show any that are in the waiting-to-be-announced queue to anyone. If anyone thinks otherwise, please say so now. RjS From nobody Thu Jul 9 12:57:31 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD8A3A011B for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:57:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cMCVnA_hQvCS for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 110C33A0365 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228A1300B5B for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 15:57:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id qNXOCbwHBCdB for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 15:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (pool-72-66-113-56.washdc.fios.verizon.net [72.66.113.56]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 89E9D3005C6; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 15:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.14\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <6e570627-6035-8cd8-d47d-800b2de6a671@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 15:57:20 -0400 Cc: "tools-implementation@ietf.org" , ryan Cross Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <6e570627-6035-8cd8-d47d-800b2de6a671@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.14) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Workflow change for requesting meetings (ticket #3005) X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 19:57:30 -0000 > On Jul 9, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 > See >=20 > Does anyone want to argue for not making the change proposed there? Right now, there are a huge number of interims. Will that go back? = Will it make this change awkward if it does? Russ From nobody Thu Jul 9 12:58:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18AC3A03FA for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:58:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 77_73EaMQTvm for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E94A3A03F3 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CFC300B70 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 15:58:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 7LoJVUuXHONu for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 15:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (pool-72-66-113-56.washdc.fios.verizon.net [72.66.113.56]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 321E13005C6; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 15:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.14\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <256690cd-288e-e18f-8fbb-2d8180df1733@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 15:57:59 -0400 Cc: "tools-implementation@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <85CD3C44-BDF3-4864-BAFA-1DE37CCD0F80@vigilsec.com> References: <256690cd-288e-e18f-8fbb-2d8180df1733@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.14) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Two tickets related to interim-requests in pending or awaiting announcement state X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 19:58:04 -0000 > On Jul 9, 2020, at 3:56 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 > See and = . >=20 > I propose we always show pending meeting requests to everyone (as = noted in 2929) and given the logic argued there, also show any that are = in the waiting-to-be-announced queue to anyone. >=20 > If anyone thinks otherwise, please say so now. That seems very reasonable. Russ From nobody Thu Jul 9 13:00:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7BC3A0407 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:00:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.403 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.403 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.276, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5iU2QdOqbc_f for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 722493A0403 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 069Jxveq020320 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:59:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1594324798; bh=wOq7aktxUDoLlMFDu5H+1HYFf0Fq6PFuhJvYCIkYFUM=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=r1ORrJ+913U+t5vxAQ2OjYAqmsOH86LlwffDB6o5hz8kLi9TX8TpLmlxMqtIUcLfr t2q+d1NWRnyPBhS28rwRZ6+u3l5yPeRTbi9xmeknLRnDrKjKDVk9/qbGfHaZA2fEbD K2kP1IK5zVgpAwQypu+CkimFr5DYi0KDRrdNKN88= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: Russ Housley Cc: "tools-implementation@ietf.org" , ryan Cross References: <6e570627-6035-8cd8-d47d-800b2de6a671@nostrum.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <205ad1e1-3e58-95b1-c44f-3446978861fa@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:59:57 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Workflow change for requesting meetings (ticket #3005) X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 20:00:03 -0000 On 7/9/20 2:57 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > >> On Jul 9, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> >> See >> >> Does anyone want to argue for not making the change proposed there? > Right now, there are a huge number of interims. Will that go back? Will it make this change awkward if it does? I don't think the volume of requests makes a difference. It doesn't change implementation complexity, and I don't think it makes things harder for chairs - it may even make it easier. > > Russ > From nobody Thu Jul 9 13:16:16 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CA53A07C2 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:16:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dK8WEXq4F2NC for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A35133A07A2 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A51300B71 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 16:16:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id uvslqh4ifKq6 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 16:16:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (pool-72-66-113-56.washdc.fios.verizon.net [72.66.113.56]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9BD86300AA6; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 16:16:08 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.14\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <205ad1e1-3e58-95b1-c44f-3446978861fa@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 16:16:10 -0400 Cc: "tools-implementation@ietf.org" , ryan Cross Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <698BA466-1DBC-40EC-BA82-1F7E95652079@vigilsec.com> References: <6e570627-6035-8cd8-d47d-800b2de6a671@nostrum.com> <205ad1e1-3e58-95b1-c44f-3446978861fa@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.14) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Workflow change for requesting meetings (ticket #3005) X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 20:16:15 -0000 > On Jul 9, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 7/9/20 2:57 PM, Russ Housley wrote: >>=20 >>> On Jul 9, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >>>=20 >>> See >>>=20 >>> Does anyone want to argue for not making the change proposed there? >> Right now, there are a huge number of interims. Will that go back? = Will it make this change awkward if it does? >=20 > I don't think the volume of requests makes a difference. It doesn't = change implementation complexity, and I don't think it makes things = harder for chairs - it may even make it easier. As long as it is easier for the WG chairs in both cases, I am fine. Russ= From nobody Thu Jul 9 14:11:06 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6F43A0886 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:11:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cert.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AD31yim_w2Uf for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veto.sei.cmu.edu (veto.sei.cmu.edu [147.72.252.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AB5C3A0885 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delp.sei.cmu.edu (delp.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.21.31]) by veto.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 069LB0EC042667; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:11:00 -0400 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 veto.sei.cmu.edu 069LB0EC042667 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cert.org; s=yc2bmwvrj62m; t=1594329060; bh=toMIPqSAxFdG8lDmklh6bn64LLM2JtQ8LoU627XjL2s=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=p1fWNj9S+yTMWJrbXuYI/NcfxjEy4/gJTLq5NwZIbyXIVhkTIcRKLYLQeXXU/iSLM DhJ+vESxOEO28qvT/GgL+LyylowC7h6Bzc8UG+r1drSaKtqFVaWzW8Ef+RJDh/8TCr QPgHSNLH7xD6e60ZLwBmQxzyKJypV81jSut+Voy8= Received: from CASCADE.ad.sei.cmu.edu (cascade.ad.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.28.248]) by delp.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 069LAqjA011455; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:10:52 -0400 Received: from MURIEL.ad.sei.cmu.edu (147.72.252.47) by CASCADE.ad.sei.cmu.edu (10.64.28.248) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.487.0; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:10:52 -0400 Received: from MORRIS.ad.sei.cmu.edu (147.72.252.46) by MURIEL.ad.sei.cmu.edu (147.72.252.47) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.1979.3; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:10:52 -0400 Received: from MORRIS.ad.sei.cmu.edu ([fe80::555b:9498:552e:d1bb]) by MORRIS.ad.sei.cmu.edu ([fe80::555b:9498:552e:d1bb%13]) with mapi id 15.01.1979.003; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:10:52 -0400 From: Roman Danyliw To: Robert Sparks , "tools-implementation@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Tools-implementation] Setting up the next set of calls Thread-Index: AQHWVIcwkwhQUxN6BkODdPfZmXW2Q6j/wbfg Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 21:10:51 +0000 Message-ID: <8ca9539bb7984507af02f79d6cb2b247@cert.org> References: <6f143998-a33c-fb02-2159-4b287fb3abf5@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <6f143998-a33c-fb02-2159-4b287fb3abf5@nostrum.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.64.202.182] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Setting up the next set of calls X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 21:11:04 -0000 Hi! > -----Original Message----- > From: Tools-implementation On > Behalf Of Robert Sparks > Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 1:50 PM > To: tools-implementation@ietf.org > Subject: [Tools-implementation] Setting up the next set of calls >=20 > As discussed today, we're currently thinking of having our next calls on >=20 > 21Jul : 1500-1600 UTC >=20 > 10Aug: 1500-1700 UTC >=20 > Roman - would you be able to make those times? Yes, those work for me. 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Fri, 10 Jul 2020 06:08:44 -0400 (EDT) To: Robert Sparks , "tools-implementation@ietf.org" References: <256690cd-288e-e18f-8fbb-2d8180df1733@nostrum.com> From: Alexey Melnikov Message-ID: <10139830-e60f-b5c0-f103-435073fefa57@fastmail.fm> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:08:05 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <256690cd-288e-e18f-8fbb-2d8180df1733@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Two tickets related to interim-requests in pending or awaiting announcement state X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 10:08:49 -0000 On 09/07/2020 20:56, Robert Sparks wrote: > See and > . > > I propose we always show pending meeting requests to everyone (as > noted in 2929) and given the logic argued there, also show any that > are in the waiting-to-be-announced queue to anyone. > > If anyone thinks otherwise, please say so now. These look very sensible to me. From nobody Sat Jul 11 09:36:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1AB3A1050 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:36:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XT9UCscPjgCb for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [64.170.98.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E71B3A104E for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:62139 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1juIUY-000254-70; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:36:46 -0700 To: Robert Sparks , "tools-implementation@ietf.org" References: <256690cd-288e-e18f-8fbb-2d8180df1733@nostrum.com> From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <145621ea-3a0a-d085-7f18-660e17738059@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 18:36:37 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <256690cd-288e-e18f-8fbb-2d8180df1733@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CXIlcaWFFu8E76XrWWtVrtNJX6GTqiKnJ" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-implementation@ietf.org, rjsparks@nostrum.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Two tickets related to interim-requests in pending or awaiting announcement state X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 16:36:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --CXIlcaWFFu8E76XrWWtVrtNJX6GTqiKnJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="pcAlMSvubCkWgNgTqGXGLmBk2weulofs4"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Robert Sparks , "tools-implementation@ietf.org" Message-ID: <145621ea-3a0a-d085-7f18-660e17738059@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Two tickets related to interim-requests in pending or awaiting announcement state References: <256690cd-288e-e18f-8fbb-2d8180df1733@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <256690cd-288e-e18f-8fbb-2d8180df1733@nostrum.com> --pcAlMSvubCkWgNgTqGXGLmBk2weulofs4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seems right to me. Henrik On 2020-07-09 21:56, Robert Sparks wrote: > See and=20 > . >=20 > I propose we always show pending meeting requests to everyone (as noted= =20 > in 2929) and given the logic argued there, also show any that are in th= e=20 > waiting-to-be-announced queue to anyone. >=20 > If anyone thinks otherwise, please say so now. >=20 > RjS >=20 --pcAlMSvubCkWgNgTqGXGLmBk2weulofs4-- --CXIlcaWFFu8E76XrWWtVrtNJX6GTqiKnJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEifjc5+rnL1MJBcZSTptXS4+7FxoFAl8J6pUACgkQTptXS4+7 Fxrg+A/9EpGCG6rYgpoCLUv3T6HTyIrxRDAF5oVSTeCQ2UoBo69nYL5hFlh04zsm GpzS7MaeG6TAoEPa6uOkZiaTM5K2qNVRQ6LZCQXibAmkTeJFQ88+caU9KZvnY2hu N+tGl8HSiDQEI9Vt+Rv2cZkUTdw9mRt9pCq8u0LlnoVb/bvD9y1Bv4y9yKv4kShS 7zbCa0ov4l+ki0222E8N1Ryxduht0EKHO/7KDwoCZca6neyJZXcb8tvj6rD2Uhm5 aCxxkjnww338N++cUbYZT1vfDKzTCiHb6tjclJXNN4UzJP/JCPjEuoCZQeTcL5CJ CLxtglE+Wam75cVnyblrUurGaaaBZFZzAX+mccv5wDVhMJuhPKqc9YhEKgaS8YFo jMj1ARr6sg7twAkSG95/NM28dXl4LREG/Fk4H9XAJnqOSGp8bumYxgJ0eYOxrCrp FT17Ja05MJIJ6qOOvT1Y3jKjdWSndj9Co5BjmswutCfgU+7HCPgHdDLJNG5avgD2 yXPaKUCRQVfZ9eV3aQZHaYYnqAYliGMYhZ2B+ykTEgPxNvH8FtcNB2fDWdnhPtz8 DHfBMgET7SWhtM2HRAHRtHofCZ2eowp2Cra5WLRDOQ75mzID1As+gDUigZElnjXV bblfxlkergZz5Zms73vC3juPFl1vYaXVKpmqN9KWo6LN/mkdT9E= =64Zm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CXIlcaWFFu8E76XrWWtVrtNJX6GTqiKnJ-- From nobody Sat Jul 11 09:37:13 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F265F3A104E for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:37:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mEzz5zc6Cz16 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [64.170.98.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2DC63A1050 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:62140 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1juIUv-0003u3-Rv; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:37:10 -0700 To: Robert Sparks , "tools-implementation@ietf.org" References: <6e570627-6035-8cd8-d47d-800b2de6a671@nostrum.com> Cc: ryan Cross From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 18:37:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6e570627-6035-8cd8-d47d-800b2de6a671@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WBdFaMAAqfa4Rqhhg7ogpO3qJ2s1CATJo" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rcross@amsl.com, tools-implementation@ietf.org, rjsparks@nostrum.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Workflow change for requesting meetings (ticket #3005) X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 16:37:12 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --WBdFaMAAqfa4Rqhhg7ogpO3qJ2s1CATJo Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="3dlHnRERO4c88kUvLOtFSWHatrNNkSkIF"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Robert Sparks , "tools-implementation@ietf.org" Cc: ryan Cross Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Workflow change for requesting meetings (ticket #3005) References: <6e570627-6035-8cd8-d47d-800b2de6a671@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <6e570627-6035-8cd8-d47d-800b2de6a671@nostrum.com> --3dlHnRERO4c88kUvLOtFSWHatrNNkSkIF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2020-07-09 21:48, Robert Sparks wrote: > See >=20 > Does anyone want to argue for not making the change proposed there? Nope, works for me. 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Tue, 14 Jul 2020 07:25:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.3.0-dev0-613-g8a73ad6-fm-20200709.001-g8a73ad6e Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <48b49f3d-6b44-4a43-b541-ecf3c64e765a@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1ffe6ec5-2021-eab8-4932-b31097b2f9d9@nostrum.com> References: <1ffe6ec5-2021-eab8-4932-b31097b2f9d9@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 12:25:11 +0100 From: "Alexey Melnikov" To: "Robert Sparks" , "tools-implementation@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] =?utf-8?q?Dispatch_for_https=3A//trac=2Et?= =?utf-8?q?ools=2Eietf=2Eorg/tools/ietfdb/ticket/2695?= X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:25:40 -0000 Hi Robert, On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > Please read through https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/2695 > > The key issue here is that, right now, we can't use markdown for charters. > > To allow it, and keep the workflow similar to what we have now, we would > need to add controls to the form that lets the AD edit so the AD can > tell us if the charter is plain text or markdown. Sounds reasonable. > The alternative is to only allow uploads as Tom suggests. If I were an > AD that would irritate me mightily. If I were still an AD, that would have irritated me as well :-). > It also might mean a model addition to keep the intended type (or some > surgery if we want to keep the type in a file extension). Being able to flip between "this is text" and "this is markdown" would be useful. > Consideration to diffs when things change from text to md need to be > considered. I suspect we diff text against md source (and md source > against md source for that kind of revision). Yes, diffing should be straightforward. As markdown is mostly text, diffing it as such is sensible. I hope the above was helpful! > What else am I missing? Best Regards, Alexey From nobody Tue Jul 21 09:24:19 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768F03A0B88 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 09:23:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JvIeAISlLok9 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 09:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 694753A0B8A for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 09:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0A86204538 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 09:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi1-f175.google.com (mail-oi1-f175.google.com [209.85.167.175]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A4E90204539 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 09:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi1-f175.google.com with SMTP id l63so17676637oih.13 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 09:23:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532TsGUTmZ6se3QV8QLLLUsIURIXfEqc/hKtpdt5R/s/rdPmM9LA NJtejFiVy5vOaVGUyrRbWmXA7/geZ2i/RTM8ss8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzOikK5GIBSNO41hsZPNJ+2rFp3kkH9TLwJ2zx2mZm2a5/thOVvWh26cfm/sHR3jB+xcTX2CAkIDqV+64BLgzY= X-Received: by 2002:aca:4754:: with SMTP id u81mr3721646oia.29.1595348598569; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 09:23:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Glen Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 09:23:05 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Alexa Morris Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000082c02805aaf60aa0" Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 09:24:17 -0700 Subject: [Tools-implementation] CODIMD for IETF108 X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:23:23 -0000 --00000000000082c02805aaf60aa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Alexa (BCC Secretariat Staff, Tools Implementation) - In the past the IETF have used Etherpad, which is kind of a Googe-Docs-like shared editing system, to take notes during IETF meetings. The IETF is planning to migrate from Etherpad to a new system called CODIMD ("Ko-dee-emm-DEE") which does similar things. I have just learned that CODIMD will be in production use during IETF108. However, CODIMD has not yet been handed off to AMS IT for Operations - it is not yet on our managed cloud setup nor is it something we've got operational familiarity with yet. It is still under Robert's care. So, any complaints or issues with CODIMD, during IETF108, should be forwarded directly to Robert for handling and management. We'll be working on transitioning it to AMS operational management post IETF-108. Thank you, Glen --00000000000082c02805aaf60aa0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alexa (BCC Secretariat Staff, Tools Implementation) -=

In the past the IETF have used Etherpad, which is= kind of a Googe-Docs-like shared editing system, to take notes during IETF= meetings.

The IETF is planning to migrate from Et= herpad to a new system called CODIMD ("Ko-dee-emm-DEE") which doe= s similar things.=C2=A0 I have just learned that CODIMD will be in producti= on use during IETF108.

However, CODIMD has not yet= been handed off to AMS IT for Operations - it is not yet on our managed cl= oud setup nor is it something we've got operational familiarity with ye= t.=C2=A0=C2=A0 It is still under Robert's care.

So, any complaints or issues with CODIMD, during IETF108, should be forwa= rded directly to Robert for handling and management.=C2=A0=C2=A0
=

We'll be working on transitioning it to AMS operati= onal management post IETF-108.

Thank you,
Glen

--00000000000082c02805aaf60aa0-- From nobody Tue Jul 21 12:03:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-implementation@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA7F3A07D0 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:03:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Y9lDqupvq9N for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B92243A07D1 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 06LJ3V1Q024287 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 14:03:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1595358212; bh=5qDcS1IGasFbVR36F3c9zZBdYGMmG8RW7y+Mxpge4/8=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=Ei51EBftfNco7TpUJ1knAgnzzGidmiM25BGwmqWz87gYXxQS7oM8+7MehnpCqzMMQ 5pmQg0ZfEl4toJyps1IUCZ3/5fGCTF7MDScFlystxU1ITfmNinqD3pkVZkfiA9LCTy Xrl5Oiogxu2dHZxfQl8ke6YrqwjMQfGY3C1sbF2Y= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: "tools-implementation@ietf.org" From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <7391979e-2577-1241-cab4-8421fc452b01@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 14:03:30 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-implementation] Docker deployment notes X-BeenThere: tools-implementation@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Implementation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:03:37 -0000 (Driven by some of today's discussion) To start to build a more common understanding of what we've currently deployed and how we're deploying it, I've started https://codimd.ietf.org/ti-docker-notes. Eventually we can use this as input to a small set of common patterns to follow when building new docker containers we plan to run. RjS