From nobody Tue Oct 21 10:02:33 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154221A8BB4 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76vL4gt-x4t2 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mork.alvestrand.no (mork.alvestrand.no [IPv6:2001:700:1:2::117]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53901A8BBD for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mork.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4167C4F07 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:02:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at alvestrand.no Received: from mork.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mork.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id blZC4Kw_IxOF for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:02:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.121.43.220] (65.129-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com [84.14.129.65]) by mork.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C7FA7C4F04 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:02:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <54469198.4000204@alvestrand.no> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:02:16 +0200 From: Harald Alvestrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: video-codec@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/video-codec/RFCbi6y6ilo4xavN5eqzvtyiZNk Subject: [video-codec] Pointer to the NETVC BOF information? X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:02:32 -0000 Does anyone have the pointer to the netvc BOF's mailing list and discussion materials? Either it's not on this list, or I've fallen off it. -- Surveillance is pervasive. Go Dark. From nobody Tue Oct 21 10:11:12 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F3C1A049A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:11:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.621 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.621 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NvUs_rm-_H4M for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x22d.google.com (mail-la0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 966901A19EF for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id q1so1480776lam.4 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:10:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Wrly2DmYkem7MUdAnXeLZhEYCsJmzk/lZKmfze0KRbs=; b=CE5/mlT3x9SRUtzD2oqcXnwW3hnvFqQmdB8oWSNzW3ZDChGh0MoaBHsnz3h/J/raO1 SBWudqUdLbs4VRwvS7vR1ekiuPJy2604OjTlDBC5QlNkQLCuYGg22IrVFKFI3dbYMYR0 uDS6yrwd56mISOsvTYq96YzsIZyogHjeBBD01yNiusLJ/xm6jJHi7kYqIEkXr3xk9evO 1YmwSWgr6zjeKFpuEhxynYM7s/YeijdnDjocpb/qzVsXG9abUSMYAMTtr+h7Kf5iyPlA mP5rxz98MolOksmp5BY868Xchp03qq8qUi9PGgNVBlhdZ98cNgUJqnAHQpBnhPsbbVoo 9qGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.200.34 with SMTP id jp2mr36252020lbc.1.1413911408459; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Sender: metajack@gmail.com Received: by 10.25.207.1 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:10:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <54469198.4000204@alvestrand.no> References: <54469198.4000204@alvestrand.no> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:10:08 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fBoAAzeeUBA7zsJWBO16UlUIi5w Message-ID: From: Jack Moffitt To: Harald Alvestrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/video-codec/aMspnhA79YIKABZlhhGVWOqDc9o Cc: video-codec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [video-codec] Pointer to the NETVC BOF information? X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:11:09 -0000 > Does anyone have the pointer to the netvc BOF's mailing list and > discussion materials? The mailing list is awaiting approval. My apologies for submitting the request late. You can find the agenda and other materials here: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#NETVCApprovedforIETF91 The only change from that agenda is that Jingning Han from Google's VP9 team is slated to speak in the Engineering Progress section along with Mozilla. jack. From nobody Wed Oct 22 04:36:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E251A9038 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 04:36:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id evH9mquzUEMD for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 04:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mork.alvestrand.no (mork.alvestrand.no [IPv6:2001:700:1:2::117]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9263F1A9037 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 04:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mork.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D1C7C506A; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:35:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at alvestrand.no Received: from mork.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mork.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cL0Wq418Kzzj; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:35:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.121.43.57] (65.129-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com [84.14.129.65]) by mork.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 29F0F7C5068; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:35:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <54479694.7010705@alvestrand.no> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:35:48 +0200 From: Harald Alvestrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Moffitt References: <54469198.4000204@alvestrand.no> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/video-codec/KU6cmNKO8_NuegLA3LEl5PIT9aU Cc: video-codec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [video-codec] Pointer to the NETVC BOF information? X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 11:36:01 -0000 On 10/21/2014 07:10 PM, Jack Moffitt wrote: >> Does anyone have the pointer to the netvc BOF's mailing list and >> discussion materials? > The mailing list is awaiting approval. My apologies for submitting the > request late. Since the list obviously won't have many subscribers in time for the meeting, perhaps we should have pre-BOF discussions here? > > You can find the agenda and other materials here: > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#NETVCApprovedforIETF= 91 Thanks - the BOF request is missing some information, such as: - Who will chair the BOF? - Is there a draft charter (since the BOF is cited as "WG-forming")? > > The only change from that agenda is that Jingning Han from Google's > VP9 team is slated to speak in the Engineering Progress section along > with Mozilla. Good to know! > > jack. --=20 Surveillance is pervasive. Go Dark. From nobody Thu Oct 23 10:39:21 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F711A8AD3 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:39:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.278 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.278 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ytsRwkeS9YPt for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x229.google.com (mail-la0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78CE21A8AA9 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id pn19so1283143lab.14 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:39:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=94GI2wvXO6A/K+OI6ya2rOwvNSA/hEt/v7xRJ5Jccmg=; b=By6mGzTyYsikUE8LW8krVKbArU5h881rn49G/r1URdOAwnG0NihEVEO5H9eRFeneth 9foyh7bJadBw74/nfv/Ipz0IX7MysQ4lOQHpkc6lmOnsNf9FjFpetmIupqGc5Dg2jnLH DOq71SIuQOFbeg06dcIbijfACx9+jfYC8hy+385/ZCqEf+KWZoe8bLY0Mnm079JflK5D lmrebostTIBocXP1mrpWoPloxVwYV/cgcfSfMTyUueAf9bUhmuxdWb6u+kJJtSS+/KGX bj17q6K5B1cmjUrGBukP+phlhn64J+vLiq7jjRsrl42+o7wdIKWaIXxTT2NrWpzq3gWE yObQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.11.133 with SMTP id q5mr6617531lbb.77.1414085955718; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: metajack@gmail.com Received: by 10.25.207.1 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:39:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <54479694.7010705@alvestrand.no> References: <54469198.4000204@alvestrand.no> <54479694.7010705@alvestrand.no> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:39:15 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kXdLqgOyq_bk_cNOwPimixTJtfo Message-ID: From: Jack Moffitt To: Harald Alvestrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/video-codec/NxJvwGT8g3VBT7FTtEjRY-brMRM Cc: video-codec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [video-codec] Pointer to the NETVC BOF information? X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:39:19 -0000 > - Who will chair the BOF? Mark Nottingham has agreed to be one of the chairs. We are still finding a second. > - Is there a draft charter (since the BOF is cited as "WG-forming")? It is here: https://daala.etherpad.mozilla.org/video-codec-charter I'll update the wiki this this info as well. jack. From nobody Thu Oct 23 10:44:02 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7761A906F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:44:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.277 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.277 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_FAIL=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JnSfVJp7LkYt for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx2.corp.phx1.mozilla.com [63.245.216.70]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F9ED1A8AD3 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.119] (fs5.wan.abq.citylinkwireless.net [216.243.124.18]) (Authenticated sender: tterriberry@mozilla.com) by mx2.mail.corp.phx1.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54CCEF24C3 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54493E5D.9030807@xiph.org> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:43:57 -0700 From: "Timothy B. Terriberry" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: video-codec@ietf.org References: <54469198.4000204@alvestrand.no> <54479694.7010705@alvestrand.no> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/video-codec/M19BJS_zXOpWyV_lznj7Tx688nY Subject: Re: [video-codec] Pointer to the NETVC BOF information? X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:44:01 -0000 Jack Moffitt wrote: > It is here: https://daala.etherpad.mozilla.org/video-codec-charter This is the same copy we posted for the meeting in Toronto. I think at that meeting we agreed we should remove the language about collaborating with ITU-T and ISO, but those edits haven't been made yet. From nobody Fri Oct 24 14:29:34 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1681A06FD for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:29:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.278 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.278 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s2LpDqZ7fpgP for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-x229.google.com (mail-lb0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E25431A0461 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so3207502lbg.14 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:29:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gooUufVeCRQH0tb7MjB4NcbR9Nku0ijgfNtB+p2ueyw=; b=IMZNIwqnQe4jAb5IRoI2qE6izgv1EdVbHdtDM/fQkhs6hNV7y+Dsrfk0Rfb+cUXE1B fRhGbAYjPIvdwtQJylo6xouD9qebhrgoUy7YNuPJejckFF8eXDAg7rzGlS8p7lyOp2BC jsEZuLw/fBNG7yvFYRDy8dGiHAtuHrUZxhw4cvt3YnPE6N0w9oRQ9Xla+OQrm7GItU/f YEe8KCjzJnSrRVXfd7moVBkU9g3/IXtw8dMtKh7BF+LqAxJ/gXGYqJVkE/H0WsyhxhZG dSzv1QvdkGsdOiNuCFWS1Gj2Yz0j44f9ueoo6G+wV5jpyBlhywbJ4j8SdWh7U5dEswyO liyg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.11.133 with SMTP id q5mr6954238lbb.77.1414186170152; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: metajack@gmail.com Received: by 10.25.217.145 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 15:29:30 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9OLghS4LP7vYYnBDCmk4Ext4XJo Message-ID: From: Jack Moffitt To: video-codec@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/video-codec/ARcQSUIKNi2kV-x81GDbbS74qRk Subject: [video-codec] Postponing netvc BoF until IETF 91 X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 21:29:33 -0000 We are in the process of engaging with potential contributors to what we hope will be a future working group. This process is a little behind where we expected it to be at this point. We want to be sure to have a successful BoF, and to do that we think it would be prudent to let that engagement continue informally for awhile longer to make sure there is widespread interest in the IETF community. To allow for that discussion to continue, we will resubmit the BoF request for IETF 92. To get that discussion started, we posted a draft charter earlier to this list, and we'll be posting some drafts and things soon as well. jack. From nobody Sat Oct 25 14:56:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6F61A1B87 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:56:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pCZ80O3OiTqZ for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLU004-OMC2S26.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s26.hotmail.com [65.55.111.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C3F41A1A66 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLU436-SMTP208 ([65.55.111.72]) by BLU004-OMC2S26.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:56:35 -0700 X-TMN: [S0k3UWiLv2nST90AgPRNqyVcIgFs2hGS] X-Originating-Email: [coverdale@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: From: Paul Coverdale To: "'Jack Moffitt'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 17:56:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac/v0Zq4037R6iciQsqqWNQKqZ9ldAAzCnoA Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2014 21:56:35.0129 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B669A90:01CFF09E] Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/video-codec/izvAMP0arws8uVpot3wpGoB1EF8 Subject: Re: [video-codec] Postponing netvc BoF until IETF 91 X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 21:56:38 -0000 Just to clarify, because the subject heading indicates otherwise, the netvc codec BoF scheduled for November 13th at IETF 91 is now postponed until IETF 92? ...Paul >-----Original Message----- >From: video-codec [mailto:video-codec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >Jack Moffitt >Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 5:30 PM >To: video-codec@ietf.org >Subject: [video-codec] Postponing netvc BoF until IETF 91 > >We are in the process of engaging with potential contributors to what we >hope will be a future working group. This process is a little behind >where we expected it to be at this point. We want to be sure to have a >successful BoF, and to do that we think it would be prudent to let that >engagement continue informally for awhile longer to make sure there is >widespread interest in the IETF community. To allow for that discussion >to continue, we will resubmit the BoF request for IETF 92. > >To get that discussion started, we posted a draft charter earlier to >this list, and we'll be posting some drafts and things soon as well. > >jack. > >_______________________________________________ >video-codec mailing list >video-codec@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/video-codec From nobody Sat Oct 25 16:35:01 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3DD1A1ABC for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:34:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -114.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-114.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B4sG119CCsCM for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-4.cisco.com (alln-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.142.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6BF61A1A25 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:34:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1750; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1414280097; x=1415489697; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=/ddP0iYbQl1Fr2ELH9+pTY1lgqgX3H9FBx8Gl7gaI8I=; b=Hw7aZiPXaqx9zUZnDAYt21xNBEqU7E/OChKES63+E/+MKmFiQVdzeJc+ ZBeWSMDn6ayx7mvx49QlwCBzga4gtX8F/2bCyVoStf/l2pAjwOOdg7a7X zpB6Kvs9/UcMUrFEcsL2PCwpu5PEMruNMf6Zod1FgXUMYCEEcUlQZqPHN M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag0FAAQzTFStJA2B/2dsb2JhbABcgmsjVFgEzUgKh00CgQUWAX2EAgEBAQMBAQEBNzQLBQcEAgEIEQQBAR8JBycLFAkIAgQOBRSIJAkBDMgEAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBEwSQVTMHBoMngR4BBJIHi1qWLoN4bIFIgQMBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.04,788,1406592000"; d="scan'208";a="90341791" Received: from alln-core-9.cisco.com ([173.36.13.129]) by alln-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 25 Oct 2014 23:34:56 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x15.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x15.cisco.com [173.36.12.89]) by alln-core-9.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s9PNYuA2018725 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Sat, 25 Oct 2014 23:34:56 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com ([fe80::8c1c:7b85:56de:ffd1]) by xhc-aln-x15.cisco.com ([173.36.12.89]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:34:55 -0500 From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" To: Paul Coverdale Thread-Topic: [video-codec] Postponing netvc BoF until IETF 91 Thread-Index: AQHP79GfICiO+CG9QEaOVmi8VYIAdZxBsTwAgAAbgIA= Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 23:34:54 +0000 Message-ID: <68AB2A34-A5E3-47D2-9AE9-6AB17B3F05CF@cisco.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.20.249.164] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <8DE1160CAEA623468567FBC016672C89@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/video-codec/NhO-ZwhC71DDHoPiLKBvM5CaQ9Q Cc: Jack Moffitt , "video-codec@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [video-codec] Postponing netvc BoF until IETF 91 X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 23:34:59 -0000 Paul, yes my understanding is the plan is not to run it in Hawaii this nove= mber but instead do at the following IETF next spring. I think the subject = line is just a typo.=20 On Oct 25, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Paul Coverdale wrote: > Just to clarify, because the subject heading indicates otherwise, the net= vc > codec BoF scheduled for November 13th at IETF 91 is now postponed until I= ETF > 92? >=20 > ...Paul >=20 >=20 >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: video-codec [mailto:video-codec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >> Jack Moffitt >> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 5:30 PM >> To: video-codec@ietf.org >> Subject: [video-codec] Postponing netvc BoF until IETF 91 >>=20 >> We are in the process of engaging with potential contributors to what we >> hope will be a future working group. This process is a little behind >> where we expected it to be at this point. We want to be sure to have a >> successful BoF, and to do that we think it would be prudent to let that >> engagement continue informally for awhile longer to make sure there is >> widespread interest in the IETF community. To allow for that discussion >> to continue, we will resubmit the BoF request for IETF 92. >>=20 >> To get that discussion started, we posted a draft charter earlier to >> this list, and we'll be posting some drafts and things soon as well. >>=20 >> jack. >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> video-codec mailing list >> video-codec@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/video-codec >=20 > _______________________________________________ > video-codec mailing list > video-codec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/video-codec From nobody Sat Oct 25 18:13:12 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA67D1A1AF2 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:13:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.278 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.278 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vIe3QZALZc-B for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-x232.google.com (mail-lb0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31E681A1AFD for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f178.google.com with SMTP id f15so333531lbj.9 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:13:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6hx7csD3M6tkaKoIvkJeO8p+evNO+U9Pb20gyw/EEIc=; b=R2Wa9Si5+8A/2ebr6n8Pc6608FN9BHCbRJVjK+h5FMdcTmBYgjHD58nHf3JLbjl0Yz ylMy8H3fBT3047umFH82Wt7j53fO7XNr/ePUkcuibSuMTa/xlNvBdJcUhagXRDGOhJJM n+aZ6XGpOb6xZkVyQcbR0L9C8gCxS8kW1OUoqzP7NuDz9LhwJCQdQ/YemRDvoTnxPpdi T0LTA4dlUi7SKh6+aYxg8/K702PxGB3RFYUi2hXrOZ6zDsk214qcruBKc/brjM3XKDgc dL12r9BwUklAIjB8pJ4wdU8UBE6/4iMI1sMoZXxjPD3jCS5v1Gq/EmDZIM3zjKV/aWce nMMQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.148.130 with SMTP id ts2mr13985326lbb.43.1414285987448; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Sender: metajack@gmail.com Received: by 10.25.217.145 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:13:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <68AB2A34-A5E3-47D2-9AE9-6AB17B3F05CF@cisco.com> References: <68AB2A34-A5E3-47D2-9AE9-6AB17B3F05CF@cisco.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 19:13:07 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Japg2gztT0xhLqh22dO8lIWiyQE Message-ID: From: Jack Moffitt To: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/video-codec/aaqr4FpAR0txLcoKzfSsqWeJTpE Cc: Paul Coverdale , "video-codec@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [video-codec] Postponing netvc BoF until IETF 91 X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 01:13:11 -0000 Yes, I bothced the subject line. We will resubmit the BoF to IETF 92. jack. On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Cullen Jennings (fluffy) wrote: > > Paul, yes my understanding is the plan is not to run it in Hawaii this november but instead do at the following IETF next spring. I think the subject line is just a typo. > > > On Oct 25, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Paul Coverdale wrote: > >> Just to clarify, because the subject heading indicates otherwise, the netvc >> codec BoF scheduled for November 13th at IETF 91 is now postponed until IETF >> 92? >> >> ...Paul >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: video-codec [mailto:video-codec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >>> Jack Moffitt >>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 5:30 PM >>> To: video-codec@ietf.org >>> Subject: [video-codec] Postponing netvc BoF until IETF 91 >>> >>> We are in the process of engaging with potential contributors to what we >>> hope will be a future working group. This process is a little behind >>> where we expected it to be at this point. We want to be sure to have a >>> successful BoF, and to do that we think it would be prudent to let that >>> engagement continue informally for awhile longer to make sure there is >>> widespread interest in the IETF community. To allow for that discussion >>> to continue, we will resubmit the BoF request for IETF 92. >>> >>> To get that discussion started, we posted a draft charter earlier to >>> this list, and we'll be posting some drafts and things soon as well. >>> >>> jack. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> video-codec mailing list >>> video-codec@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/video-codec >> >> _______________________________________________ >> video-codec mailing list >> video-codec@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/video-codec > From nobody Sun Oct 26 06:27:23 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBEF1A8727 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 06:27:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hwjT5mFwDQWw for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 06:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLU004-OMC2S32.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s32.hotmail.com [65.55.111.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2EF21A8739 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 06:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLU437-SMTP25 ([65.55.111.72]) by BLU004-OMC2S32.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sun, 26 Oct 2014 06:27:18 -0700 X-TMN: [xNRIeNlxo4RlXjH9yZROCPdiuzUP5sWG] X-Originating-Email: [coverdale@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: From: Paul Coverdale To: "'Jack Moffitt'" References: <68AB2A34-A5E3-47D2-9AE9-6AB17B3F05CF@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 09:27:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac/wugN6hG8T+Zj2TQGGFRxJjTAhggAZe5bA Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2014 13:27:17.0414 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FFF1460:01CFF120] Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/video-codec/E1vur8ezG91p3Ec1TDLYNvtDkPo Cc: video-codec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [video-codec] Postponing netvc BoF until IETF 91 X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:27:21 -0000 Thanks for the clarification, Jack, I thought it might just be a typo. But do you envisage any kind of informal session, as was held in Toronto? ...Paul >-----Original Message----- >From: video-codec [mailto:video-codec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >Jack Moffitt >Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:13 PM >To: Cullen Jennings (fluffy) >Cc: Paul Coverdale; video-codec@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [video-codec] Postponing netvc BoF until IETF 91 > >Yes, I bothced the subject line. We will resubmit the BoF to IETF 92. > >jack. > >On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Cullen Jennings (fluffy) > wrote: >> >> Paul, yes my understanding is the plan is not to run it in Hawaii this >november but instead do at the following IETF next spring. I think the >subject line is just a typo. >> >> >> On Oct 25, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Paul Coverdale >wrote: >> >>> Just to clarify, because the subject heading indicates otherwise, the >>> netvc codec BoF scheduled for November 13th at IETF 91 is now >>> postponed until IETF 92? >>> >>> ...Paul >>> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: video-codec [mailto:video-codec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >>>> Jack Moffitt >>>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 5:30 PM >>>> To: video-codec@ietf.org >>>> Subject: [video-codec] Postponing netvc BoF until IETF 91 >>>> >>>> We are in the process of engaging with potential contributors to >>>> what we hope will be a future working group. This process is a >>>> little behind where we expected it to be at this point. We want to >>>> be sure to have a successful BoF, and to do that we think it would >>>> be prudent to let that engagement continue informally for awhile >>>> longer to make sure there is widespread interest in the IETF >>>> community. To allow for that discussion to continue, we will >resubmit the BoF request for IETF 92. >>>> >>>> To get that discussion started, we posted a draft charter earlier to >>>> this list, and we'll be posting some drafts and things soon as well. >>>> >>>> jack. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> video-codec mailing list >>>> video-codec@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/video-codec >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> video-codec mailing list >>> video-codec@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/video-codec >> > >_______________________________________________ >video-codec mailing list >video-codec@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/video-codec From nobody Tue Oct 28 10:04:11 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: video-codec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B2E1A9040 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:04:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.444 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.444 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, MISSING_HEADERS=1.021, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_FAIL=0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NGeT2hPMLG3u for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mozilla.org (mx2.corp.phx1.mozilla.com [63.245.216.70]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24AE71A89FF for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.252.26.205] (corp.mtv2.mozilla.com [63.245.221.32]) (Authenticated sender: tterriberry@mozilla.com) by mx2.mail.corp.phx1.mozilla.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 862ECF237B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <544FCC86.4030604@xiph.org> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:04:06 -0700 From: "Timothy B. Terriberry" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: video-codec@ietf.org References: <68AB2A34-A5E3-47D2-9AE9-6AB17B3F05CF@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/video-codec/l97HTVGhBn2iio7gtQDeIgTKisE Subject: Re: [video-codec] Postponing netvc BoF until IETF 92 X-BeenThere: video-codec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Video codec BoF discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 17:04:09 -0000 Paul Coverdale wrote: > Thanks for the clarification, Jack, I thought it might just be a typo. But > do you envisage any kind of informal session, as was held in Toronto? I don't think we're planning a session at the venue like we had last time, though if people wanted to get together for dinner some night to discuss drafts that need to be written and that sort of thing, that might be a good idea.