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Hi,

This is an automatic notification about a new xml2rfc release, 
v3.7.0, generated when running the mkrelease script.

Release notes:

xml2rfc (3.7.0) ietf; urgency=medium

  * Updated manpage.txt and docfiles

  * Remove mention of Python2.7 from the README. Add pointer to
    self-generated documentation.

  * Merged in [3922] from jennifer@painless-security.com:
    Restore xref format for cref target from r3890 (was accidentally
    reverted in r3910).  Fixes #431.

  * Merged in [3924] from jennifer@painless-security.com:
    Handle iref items starting with special characters when constructing
    index. Fixes #603.

  * Merged in [3925] from jennifer@painless-security.com:
    Include the index in the toc and retain index in prepped XML. 
    Fixes #607.

  * Merged in [3926] from jennifer@painless-security.com:
    Correctly gather irefs by item/subitem. Improve index rendering. Use
    section numbers for xref text in index. Fixes #418. Fixes #610.  

  * Changed the Makefile's use of bash builtin read to only test for
    non-zero responses, instead of looking for responses higher than 128.
    Not all bash, and in particular not the bash available on osx, return
    error codes higher than 1 for the read builtin.

 -- Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>  05 Apr 2021 22:07:29 +0200

The preferred way to install xml2rfc is by doing 'pip install xml2rfc',
and 'pip install --upgrade xml2rfc' to upgrade.  If there are system-
installed python modules which pip will not upgrade, you may have to
use 'pip install --upgrade --no-deps xml2rfc' and install dependencies
manually.

The new version is also available through SVN checkout, with
  'svn checkout https://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/tags/cli/3.7.0'

Documentation for this release is built-in, and also available at:
  https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/xml2rfc-doc-3.7.0.html

Regards,

	Robert Sparks
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Hello, on 3/24/2021 I submitted two new -00 ID's found here:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-aero/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-omni/

The drafts have since undergone a couple of version updates since the
initial submission. When I try to cite them in an XML draft, however,
xml2rfc flags an error and reports:

Unable to resolve external request: "reference.I-D.templin-6man-aero"
Unable to resolve external request: "reference.I-D.templin-6man-omni"

Does xml2rfc need to be updated to pick up the new draft citations?

Thanks - Fred



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On 2021-04-06, at 19:39, Templin (US), Fred L =
<Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-aero/
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-omni/

You might be running into issues around tools.ietf.org, which is not =
always updating at the rate needed.

You can use

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bibxml3/draft-templin-6man-aero/xml
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bibxml3/draft-templin-6man-omni/xml

as your bibxml references instead.

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten


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I hope someone who is more familiar with xml2rfc can answer this =
authoritatively.

When I was still using xml2rfc directly, I used the canonical way based =
on XML entities as described on slide 37 of
https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/tools_ids_rfcs_94.pdf

Replace the URI after the SYSTEM with the one I gave below.

(Of course, I have been authoring I-Ds with kramdown-rfc for a decade =
now, and all this is handled behind the scene.)

However, I don=E2=80=99t know how much of the PI stuff (<?rfc=E2=80=A6) =
survived into the RFCXMLv3 age, so maybe you want to switch to entities =
anyway.

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten




> On 2021-04-06, at 23:59, Templin (US), Fred L =
<Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote:
>=20
> Thanks Carsten, but I am not familiar with working directly with the =
bibxml3
> files. Currently in my draft xml source file I have:
>=20
>      <?rfc include=3D"reference.I-D.templin-6man-aero"?>
>      <?rfc include=3D"reference.I-D.templin-6man-omni"?>
>=20
> which are failing to find the references at the default locations. How =
do I
> revise those entries to point to the alternate locations you provided?
>=20
> Fred
>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carsten Bormann [mailto:cabo@tzi.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 2:10 PM
>> To: Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
>> Cc: xml2rfc-dev@ietf.org; xml2rfc@ietf.org
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [xml2rfc] xml2rfc unable to resolve =
recently-submitted IDs
>>=20
>> EXT email: be mindful of links/attachments.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 2021-04-06, at 19:39, Templin (US), Fred L =
<Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-aero/
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-omni/
>>=20
>> You might be running into issues around tools.ietf.org, which is not =
always updating at the rate needed.
>>=20
>> You can use
>>=20
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bibxml3/draft-templin-6man-aero/xml
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bibxml3/draft-templin-6man-omni/xml
>>=20
>> as your bibxml references instead.
>>=20
>> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
>=20


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