From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Feb 6 19:00:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C2321F85E7; Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:00:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.563 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.563 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.036, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ovc-RMFhJ7SZ; Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D705821F8527; Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:59:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64p1 Message-ID: <20120207025946.6163.64285.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:59:46 -0800 Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-05.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 03:00:02 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : Content Splicing for RTP Sessions Author(s) : Jinwei Xia Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-05.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2012-02-06 This memo outlines RTP splicing. Splicing is a process that replaces the content of the main multimedia stream with other multimedia content, and delivers the substitutive multimedia content to receiver for a period of time. This memo provides some RTP splicing use cases, then we enumerate a set of requirements and analyze whether an existing RTP level middlebox can meet these requirements, at last we provide concrete guidelines for how the chosen middlebox works to handle RTP splicing. 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Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:18:00 +0100 Message-ID: <4F3CC9C6.80701@ericsson.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:17:58 +0100 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120208 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xiajinwei References: <4F16E2B9.1000905@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: "avtext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [avtext] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiBDb21tZW50cyBvbiBkcmFmdC1pZXRmLWF2?= =?utf-8?q?text-splicing-for-rtp-04?= X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:18:15 -0000 Hi, I have reviewed the updates in the 05 version. Thanks those resolves my issues brought up against 04 version. However, I think we should fix this occurrence of a RFC 2119 keyword in a technical normative context in section 4.1: If the substitutive content comes from local media file storage, mixer SHOULD leave the CSRC list blank in the output stream. I think using lower case would fix this. As a result of this I do wonder if the RFC 2119 reference is appropriate at all. This as RFC 2119 definitions are actually not clear when used in a requirements context. Thus I wonder if one shouldn't simply remove the RFC 2119 reference and just leave the capatilized words in the requirements section. I will await answer on this and new version before doing the publication request. Cheers Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From xiajinwei@huawei.com Thu Feb 16 04:55:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54A121F870F for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2012 04:55:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.44 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.707, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fV4vzEo2NG7k for ; 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Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:08:38 +0100 Message-ID: <4F3D0DE5.9020802@ericsson.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:08:37 +0100 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120208 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xiajinwei References: <4F16E2B9.1000905@ericsson.com> <4F3CC9C6.80701@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: "avtext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [avtext] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiDnrZTlpI06IENvbW1lbnRzIG9uIGRyYWZ0?= =?utf-8?q?-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-04?= X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:08:40 -0000 On 2012-02-16 13:54, Xiajinwei wrote: > Hi Magnus, > > I would like to revise all RFC2119 keywords with lowercase throughout the draft in 06 version. Sure, that is one solution. I think the requirements could use capatilzied version without the RFC 2119 meaning to emphasis the relative importance of the requirements. But sure lower case is not an issues from my perspective. Cheers Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri Feb 17 00:52:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3A921F888C; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:52:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.012, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GIXiV-ArBjOi; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD36121F872F; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:52:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64p2 Message-ID: <20120217085206.11432.34640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:52:06 -0800 Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-06.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:52:07 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : Content Splicing for RTP Sessions Author(s) : Jinwei Xia Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-06.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2012-02-17 This memo outlines RTP splicing. Splicing is a process that replaces the content of the main multimedia stream with other multimedia content, and delivers the substitutive multimedia content to receiver for a period of time. This memo provides some RTP splicing use cases, then we enumerate a set of requirements and analyze whether an existing RTP level middlebox can meet these requirements, at last we provide concrete guidelines for how the chosen middlebox works to handle RTP splicing. 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Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:43:24 +0100 Message-ID: <4F3E213B.3000709@ericsson.com> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:43:23 +0100 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120208 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xiajinwei References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: "avtext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [avtext] =?utf-8?b?6L2s5Y+ROiBOZXcgVmVyc2lvbiBOb3RpZmljYXRpb24g?= =?utf-8?q?for_draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-06=2Etxt?= X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:43:27 -0000 Thanks, for the update, Can you please immediately push another update taking care of these ID nits: Miscellaneous warnings: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- == The document doesn't use any RFC 2119 keywords, yet has text resembling RFC 2119 boilerplate text. Checking references for intended status: Informational ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- == Unused Reference: 'RFC2250' is defined on line 666, but no explicit reference was found in the text '[RFC2250] Hoffman, D., Fernando, G., Goyal, V., and M. Civanlar, "R...' == Unused Reference: 'RFC3551' is defined on line 674, but no explicit reference was found in the text '[RFC3551] Schulzrinne, H. and S. Casner, "RTP Profile for Audio and...' == Unused Reference: 'RFC5117' is defined on line 691, but no explicit reference was found in the text '[RFC5117] Westerlund, M. and S. Wenger, "RTP Topologies", RFC 5117,...' == Unused Reference: 'RFC5760' is defined on line 708, but no explicit reference was found in the text '[RFC5760] Ott, J., Chesterfield, J., and E. Schooler, "RTP Control...' Thanks Magnus On 2012-02-17 10:32, Xiajinwei wrote: > Hi, > > I update splicing draft to 06 version to change all RFC2119 keyword to lowercase. The new version is available at here: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-06 > > > Thank you! > > Jinwei > > -----邮件原件----- > 发件人: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] > 发送时间: 2012年2月17日 16:52 > 收件人: Xiajinwei > 抄送: Xiajinwei > 主题: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-06.txt > > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-06.txt has been successfully submitted by Jinwei Xia and posted to the IETF repository. > > Filename: draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp > Revision: 06 > Title: Content Splicing for RTP Sessions > Creation date: 2012-02-17 > WG ID: avtext > Number of pages: 17 > > Abstract: > This memo outlines RTP splicing. Splicing is a process that replaces > the content of the main multimedia stream with other multimedia > content, and delivers the substitutive multimedia content to receiver > for a period of time. This memo provides some RTP splicing use > cases, then we enumerate a set of requirements and analyze whether an > existing RTP level middlebox can meet these requirements, at last we > provide concrete guidelines for how the chosen middlebox works to > handle RTP splicing. > > > > > The IETF Secretariat -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Feb 19 19:44:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1997821F8642; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:44:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.506 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.506 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.093, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ffObi73rLEik; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:44:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE95021F8587; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:43:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.64p2 Message-ID: <20120220034357.15196.68085.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:43:57 -0800 Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-07.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:44:21 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : Content Splicing for RTP Sessions Author(s) : Jinwei Xia Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-07.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2012-02-19 This memo outlines RTP splicing. Splicing is a process that replaces the content of the main multimedia stream with other multimedia content, and delivers the substitutive multimedia content to receiver for a period of time. This memo provides some RTP splicing use cases, then we enumerate a set of requirements and analyze whether an existing RTP level middlebox can meet these requirements, at last we provide concrete guidelines for how the chosen middlebox works to handle RTP splicing. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-07.t= xt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-07.txt From xiajinwei@huawei.com Sun Feb 19 21:39:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CBC21F863D for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:39:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.617 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.617 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.530, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 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(172.24.2.29) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:38:22 +0800 Received: from SZXEML511-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.86]) by szxeml405-hub.china.huawei.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:38:31 +0800 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 05:38:29 +0000 From: Xiajinwei In-reply-to: <4F3E213B.3000709@ericsson.com> X-Originating-IP: [10.138.41.97] To: Magnus Westerlund Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-language: zh-CN Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Thread-topic: =?utf-8?B?6L2s5Y+ROiBOZXcgVmVyc2lvbiBOb3RpZmljYXRpb24gZm9yIGRyYWZ0LWll?= =?utf-8?Q?tf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-06.txt?= Thread-index: AQHM7VFzz8CvPsoee0mABr3eAHKLuZZAyFiw//+IFoCABNepcA== X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected References: <4F3E213B.3000709@ericsson.com> Cc: "avtext@ietf.org" Subject: [avtext] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiDovazlj5E6IE5ldyBWZXJzaW9uIE5vdGlm?= 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-110.176 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.176 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.423, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5jO4NYo-Y9cY for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (mailgw10.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AF021F8598 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:25:09 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3d-b7bb7ae0000007b2-2b-4f4203644077 Received: from esessmw0237.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 61.50.01970.463024F4; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:25:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0237.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.91) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:25:08 +0100 Message-ID: <4F420364.9020806@ericsson.com> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:25:08 +0100 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120208 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "avtext@ietf.org" References: <20120220034357.15196.68085.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20120220034357.15196.68085.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-07.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:25:14 -0000 WG, I have requested publication of this document now. The writeup for the document is as follows: Shepherd writeup for Content Splicing for RTP Sessions (draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-07) requested to be published as Informational RFC. (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document and, in particular, does he or she believe this version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication? Magnus Westerlund is the document shepherd. (1.b) Has the document had adequate review both from key WG members and from key non-WG members? Does the Document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? The document has had okay number of reviews in the WG. There has been no review outside of the WG to my knowledge. No significant concern over the amount of review. (1.c) Does the Document Shepherd have concerns that the document needs more review from a particular or broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with AAA, internationalization or XML? No. (1.d) Does the Document Shepherd have any specific concerns or issues with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. Has an IPR disclosure related to this document been filed? If so, please include a reference to the disclosure and summarize the WG discussion and conclusion on this issue. No concerns and no IPR disclosure has been submitted. (1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? There was significant amount of discussion around the direction of the approach that is recommended. This resulted in the end a strong consensus and many active WG participants has particpated in that part. (1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is entered into the ID Tracker.) No. (1.g) Has the Document Shepherd personally verified that the document satisfies all ID nits? (See the Internet-Drafts Checklist and http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. Has the document met all formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB Doctor, media type and URI type reviews? Yes. (1.h) Has the document split its references into normative and informative? Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the strategy for their completion? Are there normative references that are downward references, as described in [RFC3967]? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure for them [RFC3967]. Yes, it has a split list. Although that isn't necessary considering it is an informational document. (1.i) Has the Document Shepherd verified that the document IANA consideration section exists and is consistent with the body of the document? If the document specifies protocol extensions, are reservations requested in appropriate IANA registries? Are the IANA registries clearly identified? If the document creates a new registry, does it define the proposed initial contents of the registry and an allocation procedure for future registrations? Does it suggest a reasonable name for the new registry? See [RFC5226]. If the document describes an Expert Review process has Shepherd conferred with the Responsible Area Director so that the IESG can appoint the needed Expert during the IESG Evaluation? Yes, it is correct. (1.j) Has the Document Shepherd verified that sections of the document that are written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc., validate correctly in an automated checker? No formal language. (1.k) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up? Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary This memo outlines how to perform RTP splicing. Splicing is a process that replaces the content of the main multimedia stream with other multimedia content, and delivers the substitutive multimedia content to receiver for a period of time. This memo provides some RTP splicing use cases, then we enumerate a set of requirements and analyze whether an existing RTP level middlebox can meet these requirements, at last we provide concrete guidelines for how the chosen middlebox works to handle RTP splicing. Working Group Summary This document has firm WG consensus behind it and has been advequate reviewed. Document Quality The sheperd is unaware of any specific implementation but expect this functionality to be implemented in the field. How well they follow the proposed method is unknown. On 2012-02-20 04:43, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Content Splicing for RTP Sessions > Author(s) : Jinwei Xia > Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-07.txt > Pages : 16 > Date : 2012-02-19 > > This memo outlines RTP splicing. Splicing is a process that replaces > the content of the main multimedia stream with other multimedia > content, and delivers the substitutive multimedia content to receiver > for a period of time. This memo provides some RTP splicing use > cases, then we enumerate a set of requirements and analyze whether an > existing RTP level middlebox can meet these requirements, at last we > provide concrete guidelines for how the chosen middlebox works to > handle RTP splicing. > > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-07.txt > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-07.txt > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Frgatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Wed Feb 22 07:31:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597E921F86AF for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:31:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.197 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.402, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yr7qrg5dICEa for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:31:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (mailgw10.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCC321F87D0 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:31:27 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3d-b7bb7ae0000007b2-84-4f450a4e9451 Received: from esessmw0197.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id A6.36.01970.E4A054F4; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:31:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0197.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.88) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:31:26 +0100 Message-ID: <4F450A4D.2050702@ericsson.com> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:31:25 +0100 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "avtext@ietf.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [avtext] Internet Draft check list and usage of ID-Nits tool X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:31:28 -0000 WG, This is intended to authors of WG Internet drafts. When a document is getting close to WG last call and in any later step it is important to have the document fulfill the ID Check list: http://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist.html Authors do need to read the above reference. The items that can be checked by machine on this list are checked by the ID-Nits tool. http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/ I recommend that one uses the verbose flag to get more detailed information about any issues. Please make it a habit to run the checks before submitting any new versions of IDs that are in the more mature stages of development. The tool is good at finding outdated references, missing or unused references and a number of other issues that is easy to forget to take care of when updating the document. Cheers Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Frgatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com Fri Feb 24 08:58:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E90A21F8802 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:58:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -109.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-109.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.950, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nf1yB7bx5Xy2 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from smail5.alcatel.fr (smail5.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.27]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E6621F867F for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.64]) by smail5.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q1OGwh1h027002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:58:43 +0100 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSC3.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.46]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.64]) with mapi; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:58:43 +0100 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: "avtext@ietf.org" Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:58:41 +0100 Thread-Topic: Initial slot for Paris meeting Thread-Index: AczzFY+7YDPUxGA/TD6olqTwYW5tCA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.13 Subject: [avtext] Initial slot for Paris meeting X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:58:45 -0000 (As WG cochair) The initial allocation for the Paris meeting for AVTEXT is: avtext Session 1 (1 hour) Tuesday, Afternoon Session II 1520-1700 Room Name: Maillot --------------------------------------------- Please be aware that this is the initial allocation, and things are subject= to change in the next few days as people attempt to eliminate discovered c= onflicts, etc. (We asked for an hour but got 1 hr 40) Regards Keith