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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
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	Title           : Considerations for Deploying the Rapid Acquisition of Mu=
lticast RTP Sessions (RAMS) Method
	Author(s)       : Ali Begen
	Filename        : draft-ietf-avtext-rams-scenarios-04.txt
	Pages           : 12
	Date            : 2012-04-18

   The Rapid Acquisition of Multicast RTP Sessions (RAMS) solution is a
   method based on RTP and RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) that enables an
   RTP receiver to rapidly acquire and start consuming the RTP multicast
   data.  Upon a request from the RTP receiver, an auxiliary unicast RTP
   retransmission session is set up between a retransmission server and
   the RTP receiver, over which the reference information about the new
   multicast stream the RTP receiver is about to join is transmitted at
   an accelerated rate.  This often precedes, but may also accompany,
   the multicast stream itself.  When there is only one multicast stream
   to be acquired, the RAMS solution works in a straightforward manner.
   However, when there are two or more multicast streams to be acquired
   from the same or different multicast RTP sessions, care should be
   taken to configure each RAMS session appropriately.  This document
   provides example scenarios and discusses how the RAMS solution could
   be used in such scenarios.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
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	Title           : Support for multiple clock rates in an RTP session
	Author(s)       : Marc Petit-Huguenin
                          Glen Zorn
	Filename        : draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-03.txt
	Pages           : 13
	Date            : 2012-04-22

   This document clarifies the RTP specification when different clock
   rates are used in an RTP session.  It also provides guidance on how
   to interoperate with legacy RTP implementations that use multiple
   clock rates.


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	Title           : Support for Multiple Clock Rates in an RTP Session
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                          Glen Zorn
	Filename        : draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-04.txt
	Pages           : 11
	Date            : 2012-04-23

   This document clarifies the RTP specification when different clock
   rates are used in an RTP session.  It also provides guidance on how
   to interoperate with legacy RTP implementations that use multiple
   clock rates.


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I talked with Marc about this draft in Paris.  I believe that he was of 
the opinion that it would be ready for WGLC with a few editorial 
changes; Ive made those changes (and a few others) and I think that it 
is, indeed, ready.

> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working Group of the IETF.
>
> 	Title           : Support for Multiple Clock Rates in an RTP Session
> 	Author(s)       : Marc Petit-Huguenin
>                            Glen Zorn
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-04.txt
> 	Pages           : 11
> 	Date            : 2012-04-23
>
>     This document clarifies the RTP specification when different clock
>     rates are used in an RTP session.  It also provides guidance on how
>     to interoperate with legacy RTP implementations that use multiple
>     clock rates.
>
>
> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
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I talked with Marc about this draft in Paris.  I believe that he was of 
the opinion that it would be ready for WGLC with a few editorial 
changes; I've made those changes (and a few others) and I think that it 
is, indeed, ready.

> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working Group of the IETF.
>
> 	Title           : Support for Multiple Clock Rates in an RTP Session
> 	Author(s)       : Marc Petit-Huguenin
>                            Glen Zorn
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-04.txt
> 	Pages           : 11
> 	Date            : 2012-04-23
>
>     This document clarifies the RTP specification when different clock
>     rates are used in an RTP session.  It also provides guidance on how
>     to interoperate with legacy RTP implementations that use multiple
>     clock rates.
>
>
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I have reviewed the document, and have the following comments:

- Since section 4.1 (the core recommendation) consists of 2 different 
cases with very different recommendations, I suggest the "with-RTCP" 
case and the "without-RTCP" case should be separate subsections.

- Since I only care about the "with-RTCP" case, I suggest that this 
should be listed first :-)

- The security considerations should be updated to say "This document is 
not believed to affect the security of the RTP sessions described here 
in any way". (and then let's see if someone challenges this statement).

- There are still a couple of [[comment sections]] that should probably 
be removed before the Last Calls start rolling in.

Apart from that, I think it's ready.

              Harald


On 04/23/2012 03:46 PM, Glen Zorn wrote:
> I talked with Marc about this draft in Paris.  I believe that he was 
> of the opinion that it would be ready for WGLC with a few editorial 
> changes; I've made those changes (and a few others) and I think that 
> it is, indeed, ready.
>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>> directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport 
>> Extensions Working Group of the IETF.
>>
>>     Title           : Support for Multiple Clock Rates in an RTP Session
>>     Author(s)       : Marc Petit-Huguenin
>>                            Glen Zorn
>>     Filename        : draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-04.txt
>>     Pages           : 11
>>     Date            : 2012-04-23
>>
>>     This document clarifies the RTP specification when different clock
>>     rates are used in an RTP session.  It also provides guidance on how
>>     to interoperate with legacy RTP implementations that use multiple
>>     clock rates.
>>
>>
>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-04.txt 
>>
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
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>> This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at:
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-04.txt 
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On 04/27/2012 09:34 PM, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
> I have reviewed the document, and have the following comments:
>
> - Since section 4.1 (the core recommendation) consists of 2 different 
> cases with very different recommendations, I suggest the "with-RTCP" 
> case and the "without-RTCP" case should be separate subsections. .

>
> - Since I only care about the "with-RTCP" case, I suggest that this 
> should be listed first :-)

Seems reasonable.

>
> - The security considerations should be updated to say "This document 
> is not believed to affect the security of the RTP sessions described 
> here in any way". (and then let's see if someone challenges this 
> statement).

OK.

>
> - There are still a couple of [[comment sections]] that should 
> probably be removed before the Last Calls start rolling in.

Actually, I was hoping for some comments on the comments since they are 
all questions.

>
> Apart from that, I think it's ready.
>
>              Harald
>
>
...
