From nobody Sun Aug 1 13:44:52 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301443A0EBD; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 13:44:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1cRBt7LDLC9u; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 13:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E08D3A0EB8; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 13:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E1238A1C; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 16:48:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id tr93Ry2MuKqi; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 16:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F9838A1B; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 16:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38106B24; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 16:44:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Brian E Carpenter , tools-discuss@ietf.org, emo-dir@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <407cb4bb-b1f3-b991-e198-0a04b1f6bd1b@gmail.com> References: <407cb4bb-b1f3-b991-e198-0a04b1f6bd1b@gmail.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emo-dir] [Tools-discuss] Tools info on the main IETF web site X-BeenThere: emo-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 20:44:47 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Who keeps an eye on the tools material on the IETF web site? AMSL can do updates, and emails to support@ietf.org work well for this. > While trying to assist a possible new contributor, I fell upon: > https://www.ietf.org/about/participate/tutorials/process/creating-int= ernet-drafts-and-rfcs/ > which looks badly in need of a refresh to me. For example, it misses = the excellent tutorial at: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-edu-ses= sf-how-to-create-an-internet-draft-using-xml-or-markdown-markdown-01 > We can have the best tools in the world, but they are no good to > newcomers unless the main IETF web site is actively maintained. I'd put the ietf.org contents on a gitlab and take pull requests. =2D- Michael Richardson . o O ( IPv6 I=C3=B8T consulti= ng ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAmEHB7UACgkQgItw+93Q 3WVJrAf+K+v75k6vAiW+ZpEKBWnhgLLhnguOunOyjDlYrUAnkVyWA40o/3iF259D pfnVJksUYLNkZ1BKJPyHRtV/6wDQ0+Z51fMDUQ+jXj/mlBkNkx4Y6GJpbFT3Fv8N 47ndJa4IwGVGxxE1TLMwMCNrIDURVsYPdRGqjffY0/CGMx17c85tQqqprHbS8nrW VX/jgf6y5GcK5f0YwW4a4eVG6CMa1hT59XoswAPU5N0552Sqf3EzUuQiJrS7thXT wZzSZIVCeJV3ftRp685WsKq/nS0OrvwbMUrwOuZzSINZiNxhp109tw7AbicJwNtj a3ZFdTfDPKKkYNutxn36btMMhu8bOQ== =AY0g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Sun Aug 1 14:39:58 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CAEA3A12BB; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 14:39:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cmuu9MeV3SqN; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 14:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-smtp.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-smtp.zfn.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:32::15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D11C3A12C0; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 14:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (p548dcc89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.204.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-smtp.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4GdF0J1x7nz31Nn; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 23:39:44 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <29840.1627850678@localhost> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 23:39:43 +0200 Cc: Brian E Carpenter , tools-discuss@ietf.org, emo-dir@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <407cb4bb-b1f3-b991-e198-0a04b1f6bd1b@gmail.com> <29840.1627850678@localhost> To: Michael Richardson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emo-dir] [Tools-discuss] Tools info on the main IETF web site X-BeenThere: emo-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 21:39:53 -0000 On 1. Aug 2021, at 22:44, Michael Richardson = wrote: >=20 > I'd put the ietf.org contents on a gitlab and take pull requests. This is the right model (s/gitlab/github/ because that=E2=80=99s the way = we do it). I=E2=80=99m afraid there may be some technical details in the way (a = description of which might need words like wagtail and streamfield, = which I=E2=80=99m not fluent in). We *do* want someone to exercise some editorial control (otherwise I=E2=80= =99d might dump my life story in there). 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([2406:e003:1188:5b01:80b2:5c79:2266:e431]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 30sm10661770pgq.31.2021.08.01.14.51.56 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Aug 2021 14:51:57 -0700 (PDT) To: Michael Richardson , tools-discuss@ietf.org, emo-dir@ietf.org References: <407cb4bb-b1f3-b991-e198-0a04b1f6bd1b@gmail.com> <29840.1627850678@localhost> From: Brian E Carpenter Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 09:51:53 +1200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <29840.1627850678@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emo-dir] [Tools-discuss] Tools info on the main IETF web site X-BeenThere: emo-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 21:52:05 -0000 On 02-Aug-21 08:44, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > Who keeps an eye on the tools material on the IETF web site? > > AMSL can do updates, and emails to support@ietf.org work well for this. Yes, but I think that they can't be expected to be proactive in identifying gaps and updates. When I was in the EDU team (the ancestor of EMO) I tried to do this, but I'm not sure we really have a mechanism for it. For example: > > While trying to assist a possible new contributor, I fell upon: > > https://www.ietf.org/about/participate/tutorials/process/creating-internet-drafts-and-rfcs/ > > which looks badly in need of a refresh to me. For example, it misses the excellent tutorial at: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-edu-sessf-how-to-create-an-internet-draft-using-xml-or-markdown-markdown-01 Who decides that this is the latest & best material to promote on the site? Not my job, and probably not AMSL's. > > We can have the best tools in the world, but they are no good to > > newcomers unless the main IETF web site is actively maintained. > > I'd put the ietf.org contents on a gitlab and take pull requests. I don't know if the content management system could work like that, but I agree that crowdsourcing of some kind would be handy. Brian From nobody Sun Aug 1 15:02:56 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DEB3A147F; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 15:02:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yC3eHQP7NPuP; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 15:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [158.140.230.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B68F3A147A; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 15:02:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Daley Message-Id: <19CFE784-F20A-42B8-929B-46CF7038280D@ietf.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_00A23AFE-992D-41CC-B1E0-84F611D2890E" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.100.0.2.22\)) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 10:02:42 +1200 In-Reply-To: Cc: Michael Richardson , tools-discuss@ietf.org, emo-dir@ietf.org To: Brian E Carpenter References: <407cb4bb-b1f3-b991-e198-0a04b1f6bd1b@gmail.com> <29840.1627850678@localhost> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emo-dir] [Tools-discuss] Tools info on the main IETF web site X-BeenThere: emo-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 22:02:50 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_00A23AFE-992D-41CC-B1E0-84F611D2890E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 2/08/2021, at 9:51 AM, Brian E Carpenter = wrote: >=20 > On 02-Aug-21 08:44, Michael Richardson wrote: >>=20 >> Brian E Carpenter wrote: >>> Who keeps an eye on the tools material on the IETF web site? >>=20 >> AMSL can do updates, and emails to support@ietf.org work well for = this. >=20 > Yes, but I think that they can't be expected to be proactive in > identifying gaps and updates. When I was in the EDU team (the ancestor > of EMO) I tried to do this, but I'm not sure we really have a = mechanism > for it. For example: >=20 >>> While trying to assist a possible new contributor, I fell upon: >>> = https://www.ietf.org/about/participate/tutorials/process/creating-internet= -drafts-and-rfcs/ >>> which looks badly in need of a refresh to me. For example, it misses = the excellent tutorial at: >>> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-edu-sessf-ho= w-to-create-an-internet-draft-using-xml-or-markdown-markdown-01 >=20 > Who decides that this is the latest & best material to promote > on the site? Not my job, and probably not AMSL's. >=20 >>> We can have the best tools in the world, but they are no good to >>> newcomers unless the main IETF web site is actively maintained. >>=20 >> I'd put the ietf.org contents on a gitlab and take pull requests. >=20 > I don't know if the content management system could work like that, > but I agree that crowdsourcing of some kind would be handy. The outline plan that a bunch of us are putting together for community = consultation is for a new wiki to be added at authors.ietf.org = that=20 - replaces the current info on www.ietf.org and = tools.ietf.org and so becomes the one stop shop = for authors (at this stage, not planning to recommend that AUTH48 = documentation also moves from rfc-editor.org )=20= - has a mix of 'official' and community content=20 - encourages the developers of tools to maintain a part of this site = about their tool so that we always have up to date info - uses wiki.js so that it can have it=E2=80=99s content synchronised = with GitHub as per all the discussions above, all written in markdown, = etc It would be useful to hear if this is on the right lines before the = proposal is fully fleshed out? Jay >=20 > Brian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Emo-dir mailing list > Emo-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir >=20 --=20 Jay Daley IETF Executive Director jay@ietf.org --Apple-Mail=_00A23AFE-992D-41CC-B1E0-84F611D2890E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

On 2/08/2021, at 9:51 AM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

On = 02-Aug-21 08:44, Michael Richardson wrote:

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
Who keeps an eye on the = tools material on the IETF web site?

AMSL can do updates, and emails to support@ietf.org work = well for this.

Yes, but I = think that they can't be expected to be proactive in
identifying gaps and updates. When I was in the EDU team (the = ancestor
of EMO) I tried to do this, but I'm not sure we = really have a mechanism
for it. For example:

While trying to assist a possible new = contributor, I fell upon:
https://www.ietf.org/about/participate/tutorials/process/creati= ng-internet-drafts-and-rfcs/
which looks badly in need = of a refresh to me. For example, it misses the excellent tutorial at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-e= du-sessf-how-to-create-an-internet-draft-using-xml-or-markdown-markdown-01=

Who decides that = this is the latest & best material to promote
on the = site? Not my job, and probably not AMSL's.

We can have the best tools in the world, but they are no good = to
newcomers unless the main IETF web site is actively = maintained.

I'd put the ietf.org contents on a gitlab = and take pull requests.

I = don't know if the content management system could work like that,
but I agree that crowdsourcing of some kind would be = handy.

The outline plan that a bunch of us are putting = together for community consultation is for a new wiki to be added at authors.ietf.org that 

- replaces the current info on www.ietf.org and tools.ietf.org and so = becomes the one stop shop for authors (at this stage, not planning to = recommend that AUTH48 documentation also moves from rfc-editor.org) 

-= has a mix of 'official' and community content 

- encourages the developers of tools to maintain a = part of this site about their tool so that we always have up to date = info

- uses wiki.js so that it can = have it=E2=80=99s content synchronised with GitHub as per all the = discussions above, all written in markdown, etc

It would be useful to hear if this is on the right = lines before the proposal is fully fleshed out?

Jay


=   Brian

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= --Apple-Mail=_00A23AFE-992D-41CC-B1E0-84F611D2890E-- From nobody Sun Aug 1 15:29:27 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93803A14BB; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 15:29:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WGktahreDOcy; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 15:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A9E03A15BB; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 15:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4921D38A25; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 18:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 7tsUPn17E9NN; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 18:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1598538A22; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 18:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2EBB24; Sun, 1 Aug 2021 18:29:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Jay Daley , Brian E Carpenter , tools-discuss@ietf.org, emo-dir@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <19CFE784-F20A-42B8-929B-46CF7038280D@ietf.org> References: <407cb4bb-b1f3-b991-e198-0a04b1f6bd1b@gmail.com> <29840.1627850678@localhost> <19CFE784-F20A-42B8-929B-46CF7038280D@ietf.org> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emo-dir] [Tools-discuss] Tools info on the main IETF web site X-BeenThere: emo-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 22:29:25 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay Daley wrote: > The outline plan that a bunch of us are putting together for community > consultation is for a new wiki to be added at authors.ietf.org > that I like it. > It would be useful to hear if this is on the right lines before the > proposal is fully fleshed out? 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([2406:e003:1188:5b01:80b2:5c79:2266:e431]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w5sm9616927pfq.130.2021.08.01.15.59.16 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Aug 2021 15:59:18 -0700 (PDT) To: Michael Richardson , Jay Daley , tools-discuss@ietf.org, emo-dir@ietf.org References: <407cb4bb-b1f3-b991-e198-0a04b1f6bd1b@gmail.com> <29840.1627850678@localhost> <19CFE784-F20A-42B8-929B-46CF7038280D@ietf.org> <29368.1627856955@localhost> From: Brian E Carpenter Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 10:59:13 +1200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <29368.1627856955@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Emo-dir] [Tools-discuss] Tools info on the main IETF web site X-BeenThere: emo-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 22:59:27 -0000 On 02-Aug-21 10:29, Michael Richardson wrote: >=20 > Jay Daley wrote: > > The outline plan that a bunch of us are putting together for comm= unity > > consultation is for a new wiki to be added at authors.ietf.org > > that >=20 > I like it. >=20 > > It would be useful to hear if this is on the right lines before t= he > > proposal is fully fleshed out? >=20 > I think so. I agree, for experienced users. My immediate concern is helping an absolute beginner, and they need something kinder and gentler such as an up to date tutorial. But I'm sure EMO is thinking about this. 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12:54:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9DC63A60-5C3F-4E44-BB94-113104BD14B1@ietf.org> In-Reply-To: <9DC63A60-5C3F-4E44-BB94-113104BD14B1@ietf.org> From: Joey Salazar Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 13:54:57 -0600 Message-ID: To: ietf-lac@lacnog.org Cc: emo-dir@ietf.org, Alvaro Retana , juliana@derechosdigitales.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009fd07805c898eed1" Archived-At: Subject: [Emo-dir] Fwd: IETF Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate (emodir) update and invitation X-BeenThere: emo-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2021 19:54:12 -0000 --0000000000009fd07805c898eed1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *** ESP Hola ietf-lac, Siguiendo el anuncio de Lars de la semana pasada, as=C3=AD como conversacio= nes previas con =C3=81lvaro y Juliana, queremos formalmente extender la invitac= i=C3=B3n a este grupo para que tod@s los que est=C3=A9n interesad@s en apoyar el traba= jo de emodir se unan a la lista de distribuci=C3=B3n emo-dir. Conforme a lo mencionado en el correo de Lars abajo, una de las audiencias en las que emodir se enfoca es la de =E2=80=9CParticipantes nuevos y potenc= iales en el IETF=E2=80=9D, por lo que estaremos iniciando actividades de divulgaci= =C3=B3n en algunos meses, donde su participaci=C3=B3n e ideas ser=C3=A1n muy bien reci= bidas y apreciadas. Esperando podamos trabajar junt@s pronto, emodir **** ENG Hi ietf-lac group, Following up on Lars=E2=80=99 announcement email last week, as well as on p= revious conversations with Alvaro and Juliana, we want to formally extend an invitation to this group so that all those interested in helping with the work of emodir can join our emo-dir mailing list. As mentioned in Lars=E2=80=99 email below, one of our core target audiences= is =E2=80=9CPotential and new IETF participants=E2=80=9D, for which we will be= starting on Outreach in the upcoming months, and we will very much welcome your participation and ideas. Looking forward to working together soon, emodir ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: IETF Chair Date: Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:23 PM Subject: [Emo-dir] IETF Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate (emodir) update and invitation To: IETF-Announce Cc: The IETF Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate (emodir) [0] strives to enhance the productivity of IETF work, expand the diversity and inclusiveness of the IETF, and enable the IETF to facilitate technical development and innovation in the Internet. The directorate is made up of invited individuals actively working on projects related to the mission of emodir. Directorate activities are structured around audiences, with specific activities tailored to per-audience requirements and desired outcomes. Over the past few years, emodir has been the home for a range of ongoing activities, including those of the EDU Team and Mentoring. Both of these will now be formally re-organized under emodir according to their specific audience. Current target audiences are: 1. Potential and new IETF participants, 2. Current IETF participants, and 3. IETF leadership. As previously announced [1], Joey Salazar has been ramping up in the role of co-coordinator with Karen O=E2=80=99Donoghue. Greg Wood has also jo= ined as a co-coordinator to ensure emodir activities are well supported by and coordinated with the IETF LLC. Going forward, emodir will hold recurring meetings that will be open to observers in addition to emodir members. The emodir mailing list itself is open to all IETF participants and you are invited to join by submitting a subscription request: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir/ I encourage anyone interested in helping the IETF work better to get involved in emodir, and take part in current and upcoming projects for potential, new, and current participants. Further detail about emodir, including about specific activities, is available at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/emodir/wiki Lars Eggert IETF Chair [0] https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/emodir/about/ [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/sreRwpVxsZd7OmsCelQ_Y7f= RpSs/ _______________________________________________ Emo-dir mailing list Emo-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir --0000000000009fd07805c898eed1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

*** ESP

Hola ietf-lac,
=


Siguiendo el anuncio de Lars de = la semana pasada, as=C3=AD como conversaciones previas con =C3=81lvaro y Ju= liana, queremos formalmente extender la invitaci=C3=B3n a este grupo para q= ue tod@s los que est=C3=A9n interesad@s en apoyar el trabajo de emodir se u= nan a la lista de distribuci=C3=B3n emo-dir.


Conforme a lo mencionado en el correo de L= ars abajo, una de las audiencias en las que emodir se enfoca es la de =E2= =80=9CParticipantes nuevos y potenciales en el IETF=E2=80=9D, por lo que es= taremos iniciando actividades de divulgaci=C3=B3n en algunos meses, donde s= u participaci=C3=B3n e ideas ser=C3=A1n muy bien recibidas y apreciadas.


Esperando poda= mos trabajar junt@s pronto,

emodir


**** ENG=

Hi ietf-lac gro= up,


<= /p>

Following up on Lars=E2= =80=99 announcement email last week, as well as on previous conversations w= ith Alvaro and Juliana, we want to formally extend an invitation to this gr= oup so that all those interested in helping with the work of emodir can joi= n our emo-dir mailing list.


As mentioned in Lars=E2=80=99 email below, one of our core = target audiences is =E2=80=9CPotential and new IETF participants=E2=80=9D, = for which we will be starting on Outreach in the upcoming months, and we wi= ll very much welcome your participation and ideas.


Looking forward to working together = soon,

emodir



---------- Forwarded message= ---------
From: IETF Ch= air <chair= @ietf.org>
Date: Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:23 PM
Subject: = [Emo-dir] IETF Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate (emodir) upd= ate and invitation
To: IETF-Announce <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
Cc: <emo-dir@ietf.org>


The IETF Education= , Mentoring & Outreach Directorate (emodir) [0]
strives to enhance the productivity of IETF work, expand the
diversity and inclusiveness of the IETF, and enable the IETF to
facilitate technical development and innovation in the Internet. The
directorate is made up of invited individuals actively working on
projects related to the mission of emodir.

Directorate activities are structured around audiences, with specific
activities tailored to per-audience requirements and desired outcomes.
Over the past few years, emodir has been the home for a range of
ongoing activities, including those of the EDU Team and Mentoring. Both
of these will now be formally re-organized under emodir according to
their specific audience. Current target audiences are:

=C2=A0 1. Potential and new IETF participants,
=C2=A0 2. Current IETF participants, and
=C2=A0 3. IETF leadership.

As previously announced [1], Joey Salazar has been ramping up in the
role of co-coordinator with Karen O=E2=80=99Donoghue. Greg Wood has also jo= ined
as a co-coordinator to ensure emodir activities are well supported by
and coordinated with the IETF LLC.

Going forward, emodir will hold recurring meetings that will be open to
observers in addition to emodir members. The emodir mailing list itself
is open to all IETF participants and you are invited to join by
submitting a subscription request:
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir/

I encourage anyone interested in helping the IETF work better to get
involved in emodir, and take part in current and upcoming projects for
potential, new, and current participants.

Further detail about emodir, including about specific activities, is
available at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/emodir/wiki

Lars Eggert
IETF Chair

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On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Joey Salazar wrote: > *** ESP > > Hola ietf-lac, > > > Siguiendo el anuncio de Lars de la semana pasada, as=C3=AD como conversac= iones > previas con =C3=81lvaro y Juliana, queremos formalmente extender la invit= aci=C3=B3n a > este grupo para que tod@s los que est=C3=A9n interesad@s en apoyar el tra= bajo > de emodir se unan a la lista de distribuci=C3=B3n emo-dir. > > Conforme a lo mencionado en el correo de Lars abajo, una de las audiencia= s > en las que emodir se enfoca es la de =E2=80=9CParticipantes nuevos y pote= nciales en > el IETF=E2=80=9D, por lo que estaremos iniciando actividades de divulgaci= =C3=B3n en > algunos meses, donde su participaci=C3=B3n e ideas ser=C3=A1n muy bien re= cibidas y > apreciadas. > > Esperando podamos trabajar junt@s pronto, > > emodir > > > **** ENG > > Hi ietf-lac group, > > > Following up on Lars=E2=80=99 announcement email last week, as well as on= previous > conversations with Alvaro and Juliana, we want to formally extend an > invitation to this group so that all those interested in helping with the > work of emodir can join our emo-dir mailing list. > > As mentioned in Lars=E2=80=99 email below, one of our core target audienc= es is > =E2=80=9CPotential and new IETF participants=E2=80=9D, for which we will = be starting on > Outreach in the upcoming months, and we will very much welcome your > participation and ideas. > > Looking forward to working together soon, > > emodir > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: IETF Chair > Date: Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:23 PM > Subject: [Emo-dir] IETF Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate > (emodir) update and invitation > To: IETF-Announce > Cc: > > > The IETF Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate (emodir) [0] > strives to enhance the productivity of IETF work, expand the > diversity and inclusiveness of the IETF, and enable the IETF to > facilitate technical development and innovation in the Internet. The > directorate is made up of invited individuals actively working on > projects related to the mission of emodir. > > Directorate activities are structured around audiences, with specific > activities tailored to per-audience requirements and desired outcomes. > Over the past few years, emodir has been the home for a range of > ongoing activities, including those of the EDU Team and Mentoring. Both > of these will now be formally re-organized under emodir according to > their specific audience. Current target audiences are: > > 1. Potential and new IETF participants, > 2. Current IETF participants, and > 3. IETF leadership. > > As previously announced [1], Joey Salazar has been ramping up in the > role of co-coordinator with Karen O=E2=80=99Donoghue. Greg Wood has also = joined > as a co-coordinator to ensure emodir activities are well supported by > and coordinated with the IETF LLC. > > Going forward, emodir will hold recurring meetings that will be open to > observers in addition to emodir members. The emodir mailing list itself > is open to all IETF participants and you are invited to join by > submitting a subscription request: > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir/ > > I encourage anyone interested in helping the IETF work better to get > involved in emodir, and take part in current and upcoming projects for > potential, new, and current participants. > > Further detail about emodir, including about specific activities, is > available at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/emodir/wiki > > Lars Eggert > IETF Chair > > [0] https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/emodir/about/ > [1] > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/sreRwpVxsZd7OmsCelQ_Y= 7fRpSs/ > _______________________________________________ > Emo-dir mailing list > Emo-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir > _____________________________________________ > Ietf-lac mailing list > Ietf-lac@lacnog.org > Cancelar suscripcion: ietf-lac-unsubscribe@lacnog.org > > --000000000000acecdf05c8aac708 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Excelente noticia Joey!

On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 3:54 PM Jo= ey Salazar <joeygsal@gmail.com= > wrote:

*** ESP

Hola ietf-lac,

=

=

Siguiendo el anuncio de Lars de la se= mana pasada, as=C3=AD como conversaciones previas con =C3=81lvaro y Juliana= , queremos formalmente extender la invitaci=C3=B3n a este grupo para que to= d@s los que est=C3=A9n interesad@s en apoyar el trabajo de emodir se unan a= la lista de distribuci=C3=B3n emo-dir.


Conforme a lo mencionado en el correo de Lars = abajo, una de las audiencias en las que emodir se enfoca es la de =E2=80=9C= Participantes nuevos y potenciales en el IETF=E2=80=9D, por lo que estaremo= s iniciando actividades de divulgaci=C3=B3n en algunos meses, donde su part= icipaci=C3=B3n e ideas ser=C3=A1n muy bien recibidas y apreciadas.

Esperando podamos tr= abajar junt@s pronto,

emodir

**** ENG

Hi ietf-lac group,


Following up on Lars=E2=80=99= announcement email last week, as well as on previous conversations with Al= varo and Juliana, we want to formally extend an invitation to this group so= that all those interested in helping with the work of emodir can join our = emo-dir mailing list.


As mentioned in Lars=E2=80=99 email below, one of our core target= audiences is =E2=80=9CPotential and new IETF participants=E2=80=9D, for wh= ich we will be starting on Outreach in the upcoming months, and we will ver= y much welcome your participation and ideas.


Looking forward to working together soon,<= /span>

emodir

-= --------- Forwarded message ---------
From: IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org>
Da= te: Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:23 PM
Subject: [Emo-dir] IETF Education, Ment= oring & Outreach Directorate (emodir) update and invitation
To: IETF= -Announce <i= etf-announce@ietf.org>
Cc: <emo-dir@ietf.org>


The IETF Edu= cation, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate (emodir) [0]
strives to enhance the productivity of IETF work, expand the
diversity and inclusiveness of the IETF, and enable the IETF to
facilitate technical development and innovation in the Internet. The
directorate is made up of invited individuals actively working on
projects related to the mission of emodir.

Directorate activities are structured around audiences, with specific
activities tailored to per-audience requirements and desired outcomes.
Over the past few years, emodir has been the home for a range of
ongoing activities, including those of the EDU Team and Mentoring. Both
of these will now be formally re-organized under emodir according to
their specific audience. Current target audiences are:

=C2=A0 1. Potential and new IETF participants,
=C2=A0 2. Current IETF participants, and
=C2=A0 3. IETF leadership.

As previously announced [1], Joey Salazar has been ramping up in the
role of co-coordinator with Karen O=E2=80=99Donoghue. Greg Wood has also jo= ined
as a co-coordinator to ensure emodir activities are well supported by
and coordinated with the IETF LLC.

Going forward, emodir will hold recurring meetings that will be open to
observers in addition to emodir members. The emodir mailing list itself
is open to all IETF participants and you are invited to join by
submitting a subscription request:
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir/

I encourage anyone interested in helping the IETF work better to get
involved in emodir, and take part in current and upcoming projects for
potential, new, and current participants.

Further detail about emodir, including about specific activities, is
available at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/emodir/wiki

Lars Eggert
IETF Chair

[0] https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/emodir/about/=
[1] https://mailarch= ive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/sreRwpVxsZd7OmsCelQ_Y7fRpSs/
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Having the authors guidance centralized is a very good step imo. I agree, for experienced users. My immediate concern is helping an > absolute beginner, and they need something kinder and gentler such > as an up to date tutorial. But I'm sure EMO is thinking about this. > Indeed emodir is thinking along those lines. We'll aim to complement what the community consultation focuses on. I agree guidance for beginners and first-time would-be-authors is very much needed. -- Joey Salazar IETF emodir Co-coordinator --000000000000aa18df05c8abcd41 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


=
On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 4:59 PM Brian = E Carpenter wrote:
On 02-Aug-21 10:29, Michael Richardson wrote:
>
> Jay Daley <jay@ie= tf.org> wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> The outline plan that a bunch of us are puttin= g together for community
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> consultation is for a new wiki to be added at = au= thors.ietf.org
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> <http://authors.ietf.org/> that
>
> I like it.
Me too, very looking forward to collab= orating on that.
=C2=A0
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> It would be useful to hear if this is on the r= ight lines before the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> proposal is fully fleshed out?
>
> I think so.
I think the 'mix of 'official= ' and community content' is a great idea as it gives flexibility on= approaching topics like "working as part of a team" and "ho= w to deal with dissent/disagreement" that new authors might find chall= enging. Having the authors guidance centralized is a very good step imo.

I agree= , for experienced users. My immediate concern is helping an
absolute beginner, and they need something kinder and gentler such
as an up to date tutorial. But I'm sure EMO is thinking about this.
=
Indeed emodir is thinking along those lines. We'll ai= m to complement what the community consultation focuses on. I agree guidanc= e for beginners and first-time would-be-authors is very much needed.
<= /div>

--
Joey = Salazar
IETF emodir
Co-coordinator
--000000000000aa18df05c8abcd41-- From nobody Wed Aug 25 05:35:41 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A493A0C92 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 05:35:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=eggert.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hzkR6Oc-xGx1 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 05:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.eggert.org (mail.eggert.org [IPv6:2a00:ac00:4000:400:211:32ff:fe22:186f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6D8F3A0C79 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 05:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [IPv6:2a00:ac00:4000:400:fc1e:b128:7311:dd1e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.eggert.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC168600354 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 15:34:42 +0300 (EEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=eggert.org; s=dkim; t=1629894882; bh=BqhZRGcig5hv9025UtUP/9aFpBlicZXL3DSHIdOvGC8=; h=From:Subject:Date:To; b=dIwo7Xs6q+Exzaxe9C3pe7bWrMzbBFKKSJ8xdqeJjWyn2DW8/MIRbnkblUaxpbgs5 6M892jYEsMAPjvgc+pjS6upB+fFx/Qmh2MCUc2zEJpezv8Sg/Tt79WV1YiGVd8HUtf 9uJwUTW0uSETnwPzNPW/XVy8E3mYlUf0TJb+JiAM= From: Lars Eggert Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_51C3F9C9-81DF-4E5C-ABCE-376813D275CB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 15:34:41 +0300 To: emo-dir@ietf.org X-MailScanner-ID: CC168600354.A2F54 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: lars@eggert.org Archived-At: Subject: [Emo-dir] Overview of EMODIR structure X-BeenThere: emo-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Education, Mentoring & Outreach Directorate" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:35:40 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_51C3F9C9-81DF-4E5C-ABCE-376813D275CB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, as I probably mentioned in the past, I think it would be helpful to the = community if there was an overview that listed the different activities = under EMODIR together with some bits of relevant information. This might = make it easier for new people to get involved in activities. This could for take the form of a wiki page with items listed e.g. along = these lines: Activity: [name, acronym] Description: [one high-level paragraph about the activity described] Main contact: [individual w/email] Cadence: [ongoing, as needed, Sunday of each meeting, etc.] Target group: [chairs, attendees, newcomers, etc.] Other information: [links to wiki, Slack, GitHub, etc.] [plus maybe other stuff?] Thoughts? 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charset=us-ascii Hi, On 2021-8-25, at 17:11, Salz, Rich = wrote: > (I see the old edu team still exists at https://dt.ietf.org/team/edu = and should be removed) yes - I was waiting for an indication that it is OK to do so. > Can we just put that information in the "about" tab for EMO-DIR? I'm = not thrilled with the idea of yet another place to hold information. = (YAPHI?) We could, except I don't actually know how to edit that text - the "Edit = Group" button doesn't let me. Datatracker bug? > Doe the www.ietf.org pages link to emo-dir or say anything about it? = If not, they should. Not sure. Greg would know. 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Can y= ou hold off until we=92ve finished with implementing that plan. Karen From: Emo-dir on behalf of Salz, Rich Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 10:40 AM To: Lars Eggert Cc: emo-dir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Emo-dir] Overview of EMODIR structure > Can we just put that information in the "about" tab for EMO-DIR? I'm= not thrilled with the idea of yet another place to hold information. (YAPH= I?) We could, except I don't actually know how to edit that text - the "Edi= t Group" button doesn't let me. Datatracker bug? Or feature. Time to page in Mr Sparks ( > Doe the www.ietf.org pages link to emo-dir or sa= y anything about it? If not, they should. Not sure. Greg would know. Yeah, and he's a co-chair and can fix it ( _______________________________________________ Emo-dir mailing list Emo-dir@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir --_000_PH0PR06MB7061CC38266EDFBDB2330B5EC2C69PH0PR06MB7061namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Before you go editing=85 we had a plan to leave some= pieces in place. Can you hold off until we=92ve finished with implementing= that plan.

 

Karen

 

From: Emo-dir <emo-dir-bounces@ietf.org>= on behalf of Salz, Rich <rsalz=3D40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 10:40 AM
To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
Cc: emo-dir@ietf.org <emo-dir@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Emo-dir] Overview of EMODIR structure

    > C= an we just put that information in the "about" tab for EMO-DIR?&n= bsp; I'm not thrilled with the idea of yet another place to hold informatio= n. (YAPHI?)

    We could, except I don't actually know how to edit that = text - the "Edit Group" button doesn't let me. Datatracker bug?
Or feature.  Time to page in Mr Sparks (

    > Doe the www.ietf.or= g pages link to emo-dir or say anything about it?  If not, they sh= ould.

    Not sure. Greg would know.

Yeah, and he's a co-chair and can fix it (


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Can you hold off until we=E2=80=99ve finished with implementing = that plan. hold off with what? 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I'm = not thrilled with the idea of yet another place to hold information. = (YAPHI?) >=20 > We could, except I don't actually know how to edit that text - the = "Edit Group" button doesn't let me. Datatracker bug? >=20 > Or feature. Time to page in Mr Sparks ( >=20 >> Doe the www.ietf.org pages link to emo-dir or say anything about it? = If not, they should. >=20 > Not sure. 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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hold off on datatracker changes. Thanks, Karen On 8/25/21, 11:04 AM, "Lars Eggert" wrote: Hi, On 2021-8-25, at 17:46, Karen O'Donoghue > wrote: > Before you go editing=85 we had a plan to leave some pieces in place. Can= you hold off until we=92ve finished with implementing that plan. hold off with what? Thanks, Lars --_000_PH0PR06MB70619B6B5EDE1C0AC651503FC2C69PH0PR06MB7061namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hold off on datatrack= er changes.

Thanks, Karen

On 8/25/21, 11:04 AM, "Lars Eggert" <lars@eggert.org> wrote= :

Hi,

 

On 2021-8-25, at 17:46, K= aren O'Donoghue <odonoghue@isoc.or= g> wrote:

> Before you go editin= g=85 we had a plan to leave some pieces in place. Can you hold off until we= =92ve finished with implementing that plan.

 

hold off with what?<= /o:p>

 

Thanks,

Lars

 

 

 

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