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I'm = not thrilled with the idea of yet another place to hold information. = (YAPHI?) >=20 > We could, except I don't actually know how to edit that text - the = "Edit Group" button doesn't let me. Datatracker bug? It seems the "About" text for a team requires secretariat intervention = to edit, so we should put something more stable there, and link to = often-changing materials. Does EMODIR want a GitHub org or repo? Or would a part of the new IETF = wiki be sufficient? I'd still like the directorate to start maintaining some general = overview information for its activities, maybe along the lines of what I = suggested in the first email in this thread: Activity: [name, acronym] Description: [one high-level paragraph about the activity described] Main contact: [individual w/email] Cadence: [ongoing, as needed, Sunday of each meeting, etc.] Target group: [chairs, attendees, newcomers, etc.] Other information: [links to wiki, Slack, GitHub, etc.] [plus maybe other stuff?] Thanks, Lars --Apple-Mail=_97A04599-19BA-47EF-81E2-BA0BC088377D Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEmpq0ZpSoejRmyhheVLXDCb9wwVcFAmE3FwkACgkQVLXDCb9w wVe5Tg//Vk5sYXxnfx1nAKd3miqzQjoMHO2OB9yqeOPVsrZpPUGmm81qzz931mWL ax1V0qUzI0q9v09956i7VidSjHb1UMMGRlt2sdqkB05/ybviEkxB20BsEnYlk94X U/uLekh87+1dr4obfKSf5L9mc4k5xUMXQp1uMAY2Ad7MiDCZ1td4RDtC4Ho0ueUQ RY7+lO88J7MUZhRD+K5REQj/4iiddwqhMxP/DSXfkkSSAxbG/3hXZ/BMwgYvIDCo mG306PsnlwOhR2RNf95pEVkeO4UFztMZ3r05W2ZDssQGTk3F296qBQlQdJrbz7rs P6Y6a2R7/94paJngco/SD6QIzmihgUZ5pBOOeaaFXhXmzDZcsPW4WIHbynMiavcC kJX6lMdsXRTZoQ1lkT1HZQ7HDA8bHrZIK2Bm0/ez6AKxL7bs6r9SVYu2nvqmq3ZL YdPHN6x497oAkQx0KA6c54DMJMUW/+bxMK0mvCs5KSwCgV6RH0XhOWIFyQvabZse BVx93L6iUrEOqqmqAZfpkEYvHv/8TFHq0e3h8vcG7sQfNvzg4VwQ2j2DXxFh4yLP wRAd6tsFk0q9s72r4cFu0mXkrQVE217cy5SGWxV/a8/fwsBTQDeRkiPzJZpQbY2O 6FR3YQl0NcPesid29Pq+tAlsWBSY5IU9yU9l0tM8SoLzYAZ4lIk= =OYKI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_97A04599-19BA-47EF-81E2-BA0BC088377D-- From nobody Tue Sep 7 07:36:26 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: emo-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B658C3A094D for ; 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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (apologies for committing the sin of top posting=85 ) Robert helped me investigate marking EDU =93concluded=94 in datatracker. I = wanted to confirm the implications of this and how to get to the materials = once it has been marked as thus. It makes more sense to me to take that rou= te (mark as concluded as opposed to editing text that is there). I have a r= egular call with Greg and Joey on Thursday (our last call was essentially c= ancelled so this was deferred), and I wanted to confirm a couple of things = with them prior to taking this action. Yes. We want a wiki and not a github space. We already have a wiki=85 It ju= st needs more work=85 https://trac.ietf.org/trac/emodir/wiki Karen From: Emo-dir on behalf of Lars Eggert Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:39 AM To: emo-dir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Emo-dir] Overview of EMODIR structure Hi, On 2021-8-25, at 17:37, Lars Eggert wrote: > On 2021-8-25, at 17:11, Salz, Rich = wrote: >> (I see the old edu team still exists at https://us-west-2.protection.sop= hos.com?d=3Dietf.org&u=3DaHR0cHM6Ly9kdC5pZXRmLm9yZy90ZWFtL2VkdQ=3D=3D&i=3DN= jExZDIyY2Q4NzUzZDIwZjVkYWQ4NWZl&t=3DZEhSSHB1b2dHcWFYM3h5cTFWUDRhbFpGTXBJbDd= ROFhlUTRjWkxZQ1lkND0=3D&h=3Dc2848a65439f471f89fbb48901599e1b and should be = removed) > > yes - I was waiting for an indication that it is OK to do so. is it OK to remove the EDU team now? >> Can we just put that information in the "about" tab for EMO-DIR? I'm no= t thrilled with the idea of yet another place to hold information. (YAPHI?) > > We could, except I don't actually know how to edit that text - the "Edit = Group" button doesn't let me. Datatracker bug? It seems the "About" text for a team requires secretariat intervention to e= dit, so we should put something more stable there, and link to often-changi= ng materials. Does EMODIR want a GitHub org or repo? Or would a part of the new IETF wiki= be sufficient? I'd still like the directorate to start maintaining some general overview i= nformation for its activities, maybe along the lines of what I suggested in= the first email in this thread: Activity: [name, acronym] Description: [one high-level paragraph about the activity described] Main contact: [individual w/email] Cadence: [ongoing, as needed, Sunday of each meeting, etc.] Target group: [chairs, attendees, newcomers, etc.] Other information: [links to wiki, Slack, GitHub, etc.] [plus maybe other stuff?] Thanks, Lars --_000_PH0PR06MB7061E7E2F3CAE6C592194A50C2D39PH0PR06MB7061namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

(apologies for committing the sin of top posting=85 = )

 

Robert helped me investigate marking EDU =93conclude= d=94 in datatracker. I wanted to confirm the implications of this and how t= o get to the materials once it has been marked as thus. It makes more sense= to me to take that route (mark as concluded as opposed to editing text that is there). I have a regular call with Greg= and Joey on Thursday (our last call was essentially cancelled so this was = deferred), and I wanted to confirm a couple of things with them prior to ta= king this action.

 

Yes. We want a wiki and not a github space. We alrea= dy have a wiki=85 It just needs more work=85

h= ttps://trac.ietf.org/trac/emodir/wiki

 

Karen

 

From: Emo-dir <emo-dir-bounces@ietf.org>= on behalf of Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 3:39 AM
To: emo-dir@ietf.org <emo-dir@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Emo-dir] Overview of EMODIR structure

Hi,

On 2021-8-25, at 17:37, Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> wrote:
> On 2021-8-25, at 17:11, Salz, Rich <rsalz=3D40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf= .org> wrote:
>> (I see the old edu team still exists at https://us-west-2.protection.sophos.com?d=3Dietf.org&u=3DaHR0cHM6Ly9kdC= 5pZXRmLm9yZy90ZWFtL2VkdQ=3D=3D&i=3DNjExZDIyY2Q4NzUzZDIwZjVkYWQ4NWZl&= ;t=3DZEhSSHB1b2dHcWFYM3h5cTFWUDRhbFpGTXBJbDdROFhlUTRjWkxZQ1lkND0=3D&h= =3Dc2848a65439f471f89fbb48901599e1b and should be removed)
>
> yes - I was waiting for an indication that it is OK to do so.

is it OK to remove the EDU team now?

>> Can we just put that information in the "about" tab for = EMO-DIR?  I'm not thrilled with the idea of yet another place to hold = information. (YAPHI?)
>
> We could, except I don't actually know how to edit that text - the &qu= ot;Edit Group" button doesn't let me. Datatracker bug?

It seems the "About" text for a team requires secretariat interve= ntion to edit, so we should put something more stable there, and link to of= ten-changing materials.

Does EMODIR want a GitHub org or repo? Or would a part of the new IETF wiki= be sufficient?

I'd still like the directorate to start maintaining some general overview i= nformation for its activities, maybe along the lines of what I suggested in= the first email in this thread:

Activity: [name, acronym]
Description: [one high-level paragraph about the activity described]
Main contact: [individual w/email]
Cadence: [ongoing, as needed, Sunday of each meeting, etc.]
Target group: [chairs, attendees, newcomers, etc.]
Other information: [links to wiki, Slack, GitHub, etc.]
[plus maybe other stuff?]

Thanks,
Lars

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