From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Thu Jan 3 10:47:08 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA04307 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA04528 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:47:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03854; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03824 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:35:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.neustar.com (oak.neustar.com [209.173.53.70]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA03989 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from dick.neustar.com (dmz1.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.65]) by oak.neustar.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g03FZFb09712 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:35:29 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020103103347.03af2e58@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 10:35:51 -0500 To: enum@ietf.org From: Richard Shockey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Enum] Revised ENUM Working Group Charter Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org After considerable discussions with the Area Directors the Co-Chairs have proposed the following new charter to the IESG for the WG. Comments are, of course, welcome. E.164 Number Mapping (enum) Chair(s): mailto:paf@cisco.com mailto:rich.shockey@neustar.com Transport Area Director(s): mailto:sob@harvard.edu mailto:mankin@isi.edu Transport Area Advisor: mailto:sob@harvard.edu Mailing Lists: General Discussion:enum@ietf.org To Subscribe: enum-request@ietf.org In Body: subscribe Archive: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/enum/ Description of Working Group: This working group has defined a DNS-based architecture and protocol [RFC 2916]by which an E.164 number, as defined in ITU Recommendation E.164, can be expressed as a Fully Qualified Domain Name in a specific Internet Infrastructure domain defined for this purpose (e164.apra). The result of the ENUM query is a series of DNS NAPTR resource records [RFC2915] which can be used to contact a resource (e.g.URI) associated with that number. The Working Group proposes to advance RFC 2916 from Draft Standard to Proposed Standard. Background: E.164 numbers are globally unique, language independent identifiers for resources on the Public Switched Telephone Network that can support many different services and protocols. E.164 numbers are used to identify ordinary phones, fax machines, pagers, data modems, email clients, text terminals for the hearing impaired, etc. Client applications can process DNS NAPTR resource records to discover protocols that are supported by end points, but may also require more information than just the telephone number to communicate with the terminal. The holder of an E.164 number or device may wish to control what URI's, are associated with that number. Implementation of RFC 2916 must allow for different service providers, competing openly, to provision the data base of end point information required by clients to reach the desired the terminal device or service named by a E.164 number. Working Group Revised Goals and Scope: 1. The working group will update RFC 2916 to reflect the ongoing revision of RFC 2915 and advance RFC 2916 to Standards Track. 2. The working group will examine the existing domain name registry / registrar model to determine how it may be applied to the registration and provisioning of E.164 numbers in e164.arpa as defined in RFC 2916 and document as Informational. 3. The working group will examine and document various aspects of ENUM administrative and/or operational procedures as Informational. Issues to be considered include privacy and security considerations in storing ENUM related data as well as validation and authentication of data, including RFC 2915 (and revisions) NAPTR records in the DNS. 4. The Working Group will continue maintain appropriate contact and liaison with standards bodies and groups, specifically ITU-T SG2, in order to provide technical or educational information as needed, such as the appropriate use of DNS. The Working Group will encourage the exchange of technical information within the emerging global ENUM community as well as documentation on practical experiences with implementations or administration of RFC 2916. Document deliverables: 1. Revise and update RFC 2916 appropriate to revision of RFC 2915 and advance to Standards Track June 2002 2. Document appropriate ENUM Registration and Provisioning Procedures (Informational) April 2002 3. Document appropriate ENUM Operational Security, Privacy Issues and Procedures (Informational) May 2002 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice 571.434.5651 Cell : 314.503.0640, Fax: 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Thu Jan 3 10:53:05 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA04512 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:53:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA04960 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04328; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04301 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.dynamicsoft.com ([63.113.44.69]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA04139 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:44:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from dynamicsoft.com ([63.113.46.113]) by mail3.dynamicsoft.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g03FiJVZ006237; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:44:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C347C36.2040001@dynamicsoft.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 10:43:50 -0500 From: Jonathan Rosenberg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Shockey CC: enum@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Enum] Revised ENUM Working Group Charter References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020103103347.03af2e58@popd.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard Shockey wrote: > The Working Group proposes to advance RFC 2916 from Draft Standard to > Proposed Standard. Taking a step backwards, are we? -Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 72 Eagle Rock Avenue Chief Scientist First Floor dynamicsoft East Hanover, NJ 07936 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PH: (973) 952-5000 http://www.dynamicsoft.com _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Thu Jan 3 10:55:57 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA04619 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:55:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA05377 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:55:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04585; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04555 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from heron.verisign.com (heron.verisign.com [216.168.233.95]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA04352 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from VSVAPOSTALGW1.prod.netsol.com (vsvapostalgw1.prod.netsol.com [216.168.234.201]) by heron.verisign.com (nsi_0.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25316 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by vsvapostalgw1.bkup1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:44:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3CD14E451751BD42BA48AAA50B07BAD60189B4EF@vsvapostal3.bkup6> From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: enum@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Enum] Revised ENUM Working Group Charter Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:37:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Shockey [mailto:rich.shockey@NeuStar.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:36 AM > To: enum@ietf.org > Subject: [Enum] Revised ENUM Working Group Charter > > > [snip] > The Working Group proposes to advance RFC 2916 from Draft Standard to > Proposed Standard. Shouldn't that be "from Proposed Standard to Draft Standard"? [snip] > Working Group Revised Goals and Scope: > > 1. The working group will update RFC 2916 to reflect the ongoing > revision of RFC 2915 and advance RFC 2916 to Standards Track. 2916 is already on the standards track. I'd suggest a change from "advance RFC 2916 to Standards Track" to either "advance RFC 2916 along the Standards Track" or "advance RFC 2916 to Draft Standard". -Scott- _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Thu Jan 3 10:56:26 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA04644 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:56:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA05479 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:56:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04633; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04599 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from cisco.com (nordic.cisco.com [64.103.48.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA04364 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:47:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ssh-ams1.cisco.com [144.254.74.55]) by cisco.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25318; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:47:02 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 16:46:51 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= To: Jonathan Rosenberg , Richard Shockey cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Enum] Revised ENUM Working Group Charter Message-ID: <12686613.1010076411@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3C347C36.2040001@dynamicsoft.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020103103347.03af2e58@popd.ix.netcom.com> <3C347C36.2040001@dynamicsoft.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.2 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --On 2002-01-03 10.43 -0500 Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: >> The Working Group proposes to advance RFC 2916 from Draft Standard to >> Proposed Standard. > > Taking a step backwards, are we? Regardless how many times one read a document like this, errors still exists....sigh... Thanks Jonathan! paf _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Thu Jan 3 11:03:10 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA04834 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:03:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA06254 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05091; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05059 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.neustar.com (oak.neustar.com [209.173.53.70]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA04546 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:54:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from dick.neustar.com (dmz1.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.65]) by oak.neustar.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g03FsPb10021; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:54:25 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020103105321.038f7118@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 10:54:50 -0500 To: Patrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4ltstr=F6m?= , Jonathan Rosenberg From: Richard Shockey Subject: Re: [Enum] Revised ENUM Working Group Charter Cc: enum@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <12686613.1010076411@localhost> References: <3C347C36.2040001@dynamicsoft.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020103103347.03af2e58@popd.ix.netcom.com> <3C347C36.2040001@dynamicsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by optimus.ietf.org id KAA05060 Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 04:46 PM 1/3/2002 +0100, Patrik Fältström wrote: >--On 2002-01-03 10.43 -0500 Jonathan Rosenberg >wrote: > > >> The Working Group proposes to advance RFC 2916 from Draft Standard to > >> Proposed Standard. > > > > Taking a step backwards, are we? > >Regardless how many times one read a document like this, errors still >exists....sigh... like DUH !! Thank you Jonathan ... >Thanks Jonathan! > > paf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice 571.434.5651 Cell : 314.503.0640, Fax: 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 7 03:44:33 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA11929 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 03:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id DAA27644 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 03:44:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA26834; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 03:23:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA26807 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 03:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.pts.se ([192.121.211.220]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA11775 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 03:23:45 -0500 (EST) From: Joakim.Stralmark@pts.se Received: from NT3.pts.se (unverified) by mail.pts.se (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:30:01 +0100 Received: by NT3.pts.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:23:02 +0100 Message-ID: <6913523FE9720C4A8778E1BB51755D2F12560C@NT3.pts.se> To: rich.shockey@NeuStar.com, enum@ietf.org Subject: SV: [Enum] Revised ENUM Working Group Charter Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:23:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by optimus.ietf.org id DAA26808 Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Some small comments: Will .e164.apra solve the problems that .e164.arpa have started or is it just a printing error? E.164-number are also resources in the ISDN, PLMN(GSM) and PLMN(UMTS), not just for the PSTN. Sincerely Joakim Strålmark National Post & Telecom Agency Sweden -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Richard Shockey [mailto:rich.shockey@NeuStar.com] Skickat: den 3 januari 2002 16:36 Till: enum@ietf.org Ämne: [Enum] Revised ENUM Working Group Charter After considerable discussions with the Area Directors the Co-Chairs have proposed the following new charter to the IESG for the WG. Comments are, of course, welcome. E.164 Number Mapping (enum) Chair(s): mailto:paf@cisco.com mailto:rich.shockey@neustar.com Transport Area Director(s): mailto:sob@harvard.edu mailto:mankin@isi.edu Transport Area Advisor: mailto:sob@harvard.edu Mailing Lists: General Discussion:enum@ietf.org To Subscribe: enum-request@ietf.org In Body: subscribe Archive: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/enum/ Description of Working Group: This working group has defined a DNS-based architecture and protocol [RFC 2916]by which an E.164 number, as defined in ITU Recommendation E.164, can be expressed as a Fully Qualified Domain Name in a specific Internet Infrastructure domain defined for this purpose (e164.apra). The result of the ENUM query is a series of DNS NAPTR resource records [RFC2915] which can be used to contact a resource (e.g.URI) associated with that number. The Working Group proposes to advance RFC 2916 from Draft Standard to Proposed Standard. Background: E.164 numbers are globally unique, language independent identifiers for resources on the Public Switched Telephone Network that can support many different services and protocols. E.164 numbers are used to identify ordinary phones, fax machines, pagers, data modems, email clients, text terminals for the hearing impaired, etc. Client applications can process DNS NAPTR resource records to discover protocols that are supported by end points, but may also require more information than just the telephone number to communicate with the terminal. The holder of an E.164 number or device may wish to control what URI's, are associated with that number. Implementation of RFC 2916 must allow for different service providers, competing openly, to provision the data base of end point information required by clients to reach the desired the terminal device or service named by a E.164 number. Working Group Revised Goals and Scope: 1. The working group will update RFC 2916 to reflect the ongoing revision of RFC 2915 and advance RFC 2916 to Standards Track. 2. The working group will examine the existing domain name registry / registrar model to determine how it may be applied to the registration and provisioning of E.164 numbers in e164.arpa as defined in RFC 2916 and document as Informational. 3. The working group will examine and document various aspects of ENUM administrative and/or operational procedures as Informational. Issues to be considered include privacy and security considerations in storing ENUM related data as well as validation and authentication of data, including RFC 2915 (and revisions) NAPTR records in the DNS. 4. The Working Group will continue maintain appropriate contact and liaison with standards bodies and groups, specifically ITU-T SG2, in order to provide technical or educational information as needed, such as the appropriate use of DNS. The Working Group will encourage the exchange of technical information within the emerging global ENUM community as well as documentation on practical experiences with implementations or administration of RFC 2916. Document deliverables: 1. Revise and update RFC 2916 appropriate to revision of RFC 2915 and advance to Standards Track June 2002 2. Document appropriate ENUM Registration and Provisioning Procedures (Informational) April 2002 3. Document appropriate ENUM Operational Security, Privacy Issues and Procedures (Informational) May 2002 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice 571.434.5651 Cell : 314.503.0640, Fax: 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 7 10:41:41 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA17642 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:41:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA09971 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09413; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:30:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09367 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.neustar.com (oak.neustar.com [209.173.53.70]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA17267 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from dick.neustar.com (dmz1.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.65]) by oak.neustar.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g07FUXb30795; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:30:34 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020107102607.027f4008@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 10:31:01 -0500 To: Joakim.Stralmark@pts.se, enum@ietf.org From: Richard Shockey Subject: Re: SV: [Enum] Revised ENUM Working Group Charter In-Reply-To: <6913523FE9720C4A8778E1BB51755D2F12560C@NT3.pts.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by optimus.ietf.org id KAA09368 Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 09:23 AM 1/7/2002 +0100, Joakim.Stralmark@pts.se wrote: >Hello > > >Some small comments: > >Will .e164.apra solve the problems that .e164.arpa have started or is it >just a printing error? again ..typing error that slipped past the 5 people that reviewed it. Its still .arpa and those issues still exist though we are aware that the next SG2 Rappatours meeting will be discussing these at some length we can certainly hope the remaining issues can be cleared up. I understand there is considerable interest in beginning testing in Sweden at the earliest possible date. >E.164-number are also resources in the ISDN, PLMN(GSM) and PLMN(UMTS), not >just for the PSTN. Well that is an excellent point ..is it your view that the scope should be restricted to only that part of the plan that involves resources in the E.164 plan related to the PSTN? >Sincerely > >Joakim Strålmark >National Post & Telecom Agency >Sweden > >-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >Från: Richard Shockey [mailto:rich.shockey@NeuStar.com] >Skickat: den 3 januari 2002 16:36 >Till: enum@ietf.org >Ämne: [Enum] Revised ENUM Working Group Charter > > > >After considerable discussions with the Area Directors the Co-Chairs have >proposed the following new charter to the IESG for the WG. > >Comments are, of course, welcome. > >E.164 Number Mapping (enum) > >Chair(s): >mailto:paf@cisco.com >mailto:rich.shockey@neustar.com > >Transport Area Director(s): >mailto:sob@harvard.edu >mailto:mankin@isi.edu > >Transport Area Advisor: >mailto:sob@harvard.edu > >Mailing Lists: >General Discussion:enum@ietf.org >To Subscribe: enum-request@ietf.org >In Body: subscribe >Archive: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/enum/ > >Description of Working Group: > >This working group has defined a DNS-based architecture and protocol [RFC >2916]by which an E.164 number, as defined in ITU Recommendation E.164, can >be expressed as a Fully Qualified Domain Name in a specific Internet >Infrastructure domain defined for this purpose (e164.apra). The result of >the ENUM query is a series of DNS NAPTR resource records [RFC2915] which >can be used to contact a resource (e.g.URI) associated with that number. > >The Working Group proposes to advance RFC 2916 from Draft Standard to >Proposed Standard. > >Background: > >E.164 numbers are globally unique, language independent identifiers for >resources on the Public Switched Telephone Network that can support many >different services and protocols. E.164 numbers are used to identify >ordinary phones, fax machines, pagers, data modems, email clients, text >terminals for the hearing impaired, etc. > >Client applications can process DNS NAPTR resource records to discover >protocols that are supported by end points, but may also require more >information than just the telephone number to communicate with the terminal. > >The holder of an E.164 number or device may wish to control what URI's, are >associated with that number. > >Implementation of RFC 2916 must allow for different service providers, >competing openly, to provision the data base of end point information >required by clients to reach the desired the terminal device or service >named by a E.164 number. > >Working Group Revised Goals and Scope: > >1. The working group will update RFC 2916 to reflect the ongoing >revision of RFC 2915 and advance RFC 2916 to Standards Track. > >2. The working group will examine the existing domain name registry / >registrar model to determine how it may be applied to the registration and >provisioning of E.164 numbers in e164.arpa as defined in RFC 2916 and >document as Informational. > >3. The working group will examine and document various aspects of ENUM >administrative and/or operational procedures as Informational. Issues to be >considered include privacy and security considerations in storing ENUM >related data as well as validation and authentication of data, including >RFC 2915 (and revisions) NAPTR records in the DNS. > >4. The Working Group will continue maintain appropriate contact and >liaison with standards bodies and groups, specifically ITU-T SG2, in order >to provide technical or educational information as needed, such as the >appropriate use of DNS. The Working Group will encourage the exchange of >technical information within the emerging global ENUM community as well as >documentation on practical experiences with implementations or >administration of RFC 2916. > >Document deliverables: > >1. Revise and update RFC 2916 appropriate to revision of RFC 2915 and >advance to Standards Track June 2002 > >2. Document appropriate ENUM Registration and Provisioning Procedures >(Informational) April 2002 > >3. Document appropriate ENUM Operational Security, Privacy Issues and >Procedures (Informational) May 2002 > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives >NeuStar Inc. >45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 >1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 >Voice 571.434.5651 Cell : 314.503.0640, Fax: 815.333.1237 > or > > > ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > >_______________________________________________ >enum mailing list >enum@ietf.org >http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum > >_______________________________________________ >enum mailing list >enum@ietf.org >http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice 571.434.5651 Cell : 314.503.0640, Fax: 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 7 12:26:37 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA21638 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:26:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id MAA14319 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13954; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13924 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:16:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from bnmail.Westbrooke.bango.net ([62.254.208.129]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA21267 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from RAY3480CT.bango.net (RAY3480CT [192.168.0.100]) by bnmail.Westbrooke.bango.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id W74XQAMQ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:19:58 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020107171750.00afd0a0@mail.bango.net> X-Sender: ray@mail.bango.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 17:19:56 +0000 To: Richard Shockey , enum@ietf.org From: Ray Anderson Subject: Re: [Enum] Revised ENUM Working Group Charter In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020103103347.03af2e58@popd.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Richard, At 10:35 03/01/2002 -0500, Richard Shockey wrote: >Background: > >E.164 numbers are globally unique, language independent identifiers for >resources on the Public Switched Telephone Network that can support many >different services and protocols. I'm fairly sure that E.164 numbering is used beyond the Public Switched Telephone Network, for example in areas like UMTS and GSM/GPRS (Mobile Networks) Ray Anderson Bango.net Limited www.bango.net/00454545 The Mobile Internet is for everyone. It must be very easy to use Tel +44 1223 472788 Fax +44 20 7692 5558 ray@bango.net TBM7 209 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 7 12:42:37 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA22206 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id MAA15086 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14884; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14855 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.neustar.com (oak.neustar.com [209.173.53.70]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA21896 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from dick.neustar.com (dmz1.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.65]) by oak.neustar.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g07HXUb00434; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:33:30 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020107123124.02886cd0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 12:34:39 -0500 To: Ray Anderson , enum@ietf.org From: Richard Shockey Subject: Re: [Enum] Revised ENUM Working Group Charter In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020107171750.00afd0a0@mail.bango.net> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020103103347.03af2e58@popd.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org At 05:19 PM 1/7/2002 +0000, Ray Anderson wrote: >Richard, > >At 10:35 03/01/2002 -0500, Richard Shockey wrote: >>Background: >> >>E.164 numbers are globally unique, language independent identifiers for >>resources on the Public Switched Telephone Network that can support many >>different services and protocols. > >I'm fairly sure that E.164 numbering is used beyond the Public Switched >Telephone Network, for example in areas like UMTS and GSM/GPRS (Mobile >Networks) I think I should just say that " are globally, unique language independent identifiers for resources on telephony networks that can ...." Sound better? >Ray Anderson Bango.net Limited www.bango.net/00454545 >The Mobile Internet is for everyone. It must be very easy to use >Tel +44 1223 472788 Fax +44 20 7692 5558 ray@bango.net TBM7 209 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice 571.434.5651 Cell : 314.503.0640, Fax: 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 7 13:01:01 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA22882 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:01:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id NAA16122 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15296; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:52:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15268 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.neustar.com (oak.neustar.com [209.173.53.70]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA22609 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from dick.neustar.com (dmz1.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.65]) by oak.neustar.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g07Hq4b00765 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:52:04 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020107124305.01e80268@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 12:49:53 -0500 To: enum@ietf.org From: Richard Shockey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Enum] Note to the List Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org As you can see we are wordsmithing the charter so it is reasonable to assume that the WG will recommence activity shortly. If there are drafts that folks want to have considered for possible discussion in Minneapolis, you should start to work on them now. We do not want to have a last minute rush of ID's coming in before March that have not had time for sufficient discussion or review on the list. Reminder: IETF meetings are NOT for new presentations of work. WG Meetings are for discussion and resolution of known problems and consensus building. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice 571.434.5651 Cell : 314.503.0640, Fax: 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 7 15:05:31 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA26512 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:05:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id PAA19801 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:05:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA19174; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:56:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA19143 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:56:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotnail.com ([61.248.182.102]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA26239 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:56:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200201071956.OAA26239@ietf.org> Reply-To: leefffgo@hotnail.com From: Lee To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 04:55:56 +0900 X-User: 2.11-figieliv-eqgjes-Ddigl Subject: [Enum] [È«º¸] È®½ÇÇÑ Á¤º¸°øÀ¯ »çÀÌÆ®! 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_______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 7 16:55:03 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA29127 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:55:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id QAA22873 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:55:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22630; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22599 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:44:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from btclick.com (mta02.btfusion.com [62.172.195.247]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA28817 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:44:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from RAY3480CT.bango.net ([213.120.116.62]) by btclick.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id GPL8DN03.N50; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:44:11 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020107214416.03391498@mail.bango.net> X-Sender: randerson001@mail.btclick.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 21:48:18 +0000 To: Richard Shockey , enum@ietf.org From: Ray Anderson Subject: Re: [Enum] Revised ENUM Working Group Charter In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020107123124.02886cd0@popd.ix.netcom.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020107171750.00afd0a0@mail.bango.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020103103347.03af2e58@popd.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_42986891==_.ALT" Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org --=====================_42986891==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Perhaps just say "Public Telecommunication Network" instead of PSTN, and say that the numbers are used as "identifiers" rather than as "identifiers for resources" E.164 is a numbering plan for Public Telecommunications Networks (as opposed to private ones) - not surprising, since it was devised by the "Public Telecommunications Operators" (PTO's) At 12:34 07/01/2002 -0500, Richard Shockey wrote: >At 05:19 PM 1/7/2002 +0000, Ray Anderson wrote: >>Richard, >> >>At 10:35 03/01/2002 -0500, Richard Shockey wrote: >>>Background: >>> >>>E.164 numbers are globally unique, language independent identifiers for >>>resources on the Public Switched Telephone Network that can support many >>>different services and protocols. >> >>I'm fairly sure that E.164 numbering is used beyond the Public Switched >>Telephone Network, for example in areas like UMTS and GSM/GPRS (Mobile >>Networks) > >I think I should just say that " are globally, unique language >independent identifiers for resources on telephony networks that can ...." > >Sound better? > > > > > >>Ray Anderson Bango.net Limited www.bango.net/00454545 >>The Mobile Internet is for everyone. It must be very easy to use >>Tel +44 1223 472788 Fax +44 20 7692 5558 ray@bango.net TBM7 209 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives >NeuStar Inc. >45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 >1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 >Voice 571.434.5651 Cell : 314.503.0640, Fax: 815.333.1237 > or > > > ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > >_______________________________________________ >enum mailing list >enum@ietf.org >http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum Ray Anderson T:+44 1223 472788 F:+44 20 7692 5558 mailto:ray@bango.net www.bango.net/00454545 TBM7-209 --=====================_42986891==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Perhaps just say "Public Telecommunication Network" instead of PSTN, and say that the numbers
are used as "identifiers" rather than as "identifiers for resources"

E.164 is a numbering plan for Public Telecommunications Networks (as opposed to private ones)
- not surprising, since it was devised by the "Public Telecommunications Operators" (PTO's)

At 12:34 07/01/2002 -0500, Richard Shockey wrote:
At 05:19 PM 1/7/2002 +0000, Ray Anderson wrote:
Richard,

At 10:35 03/01/2002 -0500, Richard Shockey wrote:
Background:

E.164 numbers are globally unique, language independent identifiers for resources on the Public Switched Telephone Network that can support many different services and protocols.

I'm fairly sure that E.164 numbering is used beyond the Public Switched Telephone Network, for example  in areas like UMTS and GSM/GPRS (Mobile Networks)

I think I should just say that  " are globally, unique language independent identifiers for resources on telephony networks that can ...."

Sound better?





Ray Anderson    Bango.net Limited  www.bango.net/00454545
The Mobile Internet is for everyone. It must be very easy to use
Tel +44 1223 472788  Fax +44 20 7692 5558   ray@bango.net  TBM7 209


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Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives
NeuStar Inc.
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1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005
Voice 571.434.5651 Cell : 314.503.0640,  Fax: 815.333.1237
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 --=====================_42986891==_.ALT-- _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Wed Jan 9 11:08:01 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA06247 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA08060 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07279; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07250 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from redstorm.unimessage.net (redstorm.unimessage.net [212.6.90.205]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA05972 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:57:00 -0500 (EST) From: steinle@smartvia.de Received: from mouse.unimessage.net (root@mouse.unimessage.net [212.6.90.252]) by redstorm.unimessage.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g09FtM408903 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:55:22 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:55:22 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <-447214046.1010591595768.JavaMail.root@mouse.unimessage.net> To: enum@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Canbox-Sender: steinle@smartvia.de X-Canbox-MsgType: email X-Canbox-SendDate: 1010591762776 X-Canbox-UserName: steinle X-Canbox-ServiceGroup: smartvia Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Enum] Non-Geographic NPAs Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit practical question: If I would be the owner of the of the vanity number 0700-0STEINLE (national service (Germany) and would have subscribed to ENUM services... could a requestor only type +4970007834653 into her/his browser bar or are there any other possibilities as outlined below? Could a requestor type in: a.) +49070007834653 ? (some users will type this into their browser in failure) b.) +497000STEINLE ? (Vanity numbers possible?) c.) 070007834653 ? (user located in Germany) d.) 70007834653 ? (user located in Germany) e.) 07000STEINLE ? (user located in Germany) f.) 7000STEINLE ? (user located in Germany) Thanks in advance! Simon _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Wed Jan 9 11:39:11 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA06885 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:39:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA09566 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08510; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08478 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:24:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.neustar.com (oak.neustar.com [209.173.53.70]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA06568 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:24:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from chiimc01.il.neustar.com (dmz1.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.65]) by oak.neustar.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g09GO0b30280; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:24:01 -0500 Received: by chiimc01.il.neustar.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:24:00 -0600 Message-ID: <23309E398D84D5119D0F00306E075139E8456B@dc02.npac.com> From: "Gallant, Andy" To: "'steinle@smartvia.de'" , enum@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Enum] Non-Geographic NPAs Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:23:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Hello, Simon. You raise three interesting points: 1. The E.164 number is +49070007834653, and that's what ENUM (RFC 2916) describes (a full international number). 2. The requestor's browser would presumably be ENUM-enabled, and might have such features, either directly or via an address book. 3. What happens inside +49 is a national matter, possibly including support for such non-geographic numbers. Actually, there's a fourth point of three: what URIs might you have subscribed for entry under your "number"? What are you expecting the requestor to assume? In other words, perhaps the requestor wants to visit your home page, or perhaps you offer some other IP-based "Application" for being reached. -Andy Gallant -andrew.gallant@neustar.biz -----Original Message----- From: steinle@smartvia.de [mailto:steinle@smartvia.de] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:55 AM To: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] Non-Geographic NPAs practical question: If I would be the owner of the of the vanity number 0700-0STEINLE (national service (Germany) and would have subscribed to ENUM services... could a requestor only type +4970007834653 into her/his browser bar or are there any other possibilities as outlined below? Could a requestor type in: a.) +49070007834653 ? (some users will type this into their browser in failure) b.) +497000STEINLE ? (Vanity numbers possible?) c.) 070007834653 ? (user located in Germany) d.) 70007834653 ? (user located in Germany) e.) 07000STEINLE ? (user located in Germany) f.) 7000STEINLE ? (user located in Germany) Thanks in advance! Simon _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Wed Jan 9 11:42:30 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA06981 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:42:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA09705 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:42:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09020; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:30:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08980 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pine.neustar.com (pine.neustar.com [209.173.57.70]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA06714 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:30:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from chiimc01.il.neustar.com (dmz1.il.neustar.com [209.173.57.65]) by pine.neustar.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g09GUTb14092; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:30:29 -0600 Received: by chiimc01.il.neustar.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:30:29 -0600 Message-ID: <23309E398D84D5119D0F00306E075139E8456D@dc02.npac.com> From: "Gallant, Andy" To: "'steinle@smartvia.de'" , enum@ietf.org Subject: oops - RE: [Enum] Non-Geographic NPAs Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:30:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Oops. The E.164 number is +497... and not +4907... . (I should have looked at your "a.") more carefully.) -Andy -----Original Message----- From: Gallant, Andy [mailto:andrew.gallant@neustar.biz] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:24 AM To: 'steinle@smartvia.de'; enum@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Enum] Non-Geographic NPAs Hello, Simon. You raise three interesting points: 1. The E.164 number is +49070007834653, and that's what ENUM (RFC 2916) describes (a full international number). 2. The requestor's browser would presumably be ENUM-enabled, and might have such features, either directly or via an address book. 3. What happens inside +49 is a national matter, possibly including support for such non-geographic numbers. Actually, there's a fourth point of three: what URIs might you have subscribed for entry under your "number"? What are you expecting the requestor to assume? In other words, perhaps the requestor wants to visit your home page, or perhaps you offer some other IP-based "Application" for being reached. -Andy Gallant -andrew.gallant@neustar.biz -----Original Message----- From: steinle@smartvia.de [mailto:steinle@smartvia.de] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:55 AM To: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] Non-Geographic NPAs practical question: If I would be the owner of the of the vanity number 0700-0STEINLE (national service (Germany) and would have subscribed to ENUM services... could a requestor only type +4970007834653 into her/his browser bar or are there any other possibilities as outlined below? Could a requestor type in: a.) +49070007834653 ? (some users will type this into their browser in failure) b.) +497000STEINLE ? (Vanity numbers possible?) c.) 070007834653 ? (user located in Germany) d.) 70007834653 ? (user located in Germany) e.) 07000STEINLE ? (user located in Germany) f.) 7000STEINLE ? (user located in Germany) Thanks in advance! Simon _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Wed Jan 9 13:36:44 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA09902 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id NAA15139 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:36:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14436; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:26:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14407 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:26:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from cisco.com (nordic.cisco.com [64.103.48.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA09150 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:26:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from dhcp-2sjc13-85-73.cisco.com (dhcp-2sjc13-85-73.cisco.com [171.70.85.73]) by cisco.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24355; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:25:39 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 09:52:58 -0800 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= To: steinle@smartvia.de, enum@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Enum] Non-Geographic NPAs Message-ID: <581128.1010569978@localhost> In-Reply-To: <-447214046.1010591595768.JavaMail.root@mouse.unimessage.net> References: <-447214046.1010591595768.JavaMail.root@mouse.unimessage.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.2 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --On 2002-01-09 16.55 +0100 steinle@smartvia.de wrote: > practical question: > > If I would be the owner of the of the vanity number 0700-0STEINLE > (national service (Germany) and would have subscribed to ENUM services... > could a requestor only type +4970007834653 into her/his browser bar or > are there any other possibilities as outlined below? > > Could a requestor type in: > a.) +49070007834653 ? (some users will type this into their browser in > failure) b.) +497000STEINLE ? (Vanity numbers possible?) > c.) 070007834653 ? (user located in Germany) > d.) 70007834653 ? (user located in Germany) > e.) 07000STEINLE ? (user located in Germany) > f.) 7000STEINLE ? (user located in Germany) Up to the application. Have nothing to do with the ENUM standard. All of the above is possible. ENUM is about finding URI's given (in your example) +4970007834653. If the application can convert from the above to +4970007834653, they you have a movie at 7. paf _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Thu Jan 10 12:15:53 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA19518 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id MAA06155 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06102; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:14:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06067 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:14:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([211.216.14.223]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA19490 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:14:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200201101714.MAA19490@ietf.org> Reply-To: acaba2@dreamwiz.com From: ÃÖ¼®ÈÆ To: enum@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 02:13:36 +0900 Subject: [Enum] [±¤°í]ÇϿ츮´õ ¼îÇθô¿ÀÇÂ! »ç¾÷±âȸÀ» ÀâÀÚ! 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_______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Fri Jan 11 11:29:38 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA20346 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:29:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA05200 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA04756; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:19:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA04673 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:19:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.neustar.com (oak.neustar.com [209.173.53.70]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA19993 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:19:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from dick.neustar.com (dmz1.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.65]) by oak.neustar.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0BGJ9b29666 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:19:09 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020111111818.02260df8@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:18:41 -0500 To: enum@ietf.org From: Richard Shockey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by optimus.ietf.org id LAA04674 Subject: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-freilich-overview-enum-forum-00.txt Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit FYI >To: IETF-Announce: ; >From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-freilich-overview-enum-forum-00.txt >Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:55:56 -0500 >Sender: nsyracus@cnri.reston.va.us > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > > > Title : Overview of the ENUM Forum > Author(s) : R. 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_______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Sun Jan 20 11:46:55 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA12996 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:46:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA20677 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:46:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA20471; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:37:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA20443 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:37:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from cundall.co.uk (dorfl.roke.co.uk [193.118.205.3]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA12821 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:37:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from [193.118.192.111] (HELO [158.152.16.98]) by cundall.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.7) with ESMTP id S.0000061762 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:37:42 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: lwc@127.0.0.1 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:38:59 +0000 To: enum@ietf.org From: Lawrence Conroy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: [Enum] Draft status Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Hi Folks, What is the status of draft-enum-operation? The copy I have is 02 (and has expired). It seems to me that this draft addresses points 2 & 3 in the revised charter. We are also looking at this area, and are not sure whether this doc is still under development. As an aside, IMHO some "cookbook" text could be useful - if only to help people in trying to check how the 3GPP IMS system will work in practice with ENUM. (I note in passing that recent comments from some on IN-based systems seem to have missed this little potential user-base). all the best, Lawrence -- lwc@roke.co.uk: +44 1794 833666::: _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Sun Jan 20 22:11:02 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA20188 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:11:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id WAA06968 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:11:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA06745; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA06707 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:01:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from cjstls3 ([61.38.87.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id WAA20099 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:01:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200201210301.WAA20099@ietf.org> Reply-To: cjstls3@hotmail.com From: ¿î»ê To: enum@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:02:41 +0900 Subject: [Enum] 1:1 »ó´ãÇØ µå¸³´Ï´Ù(È«º¸) Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org
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Its expired ... I've submitted what I think is the final draft of the recharter of WG based on the comments Patrik and I got back from the IESG. I'm hoping that it can be approved at the next IESG telecon. At that point the WG is essentially starting out fresh and contributions previously submitted need to be renewed ..though there has been some discussion on the Number Portability draft etc. We've been in hibernation so its time to dust off earlier submissions and revisit them in light of current events etc. >It seems to me that this draft addresses points 2 & 3 in the revised charter. >We are also looking at this area, and are not sure whether this doc is still >under development. > >As an aside, IMHO some "cookbook" text could be useful - if only to help >people >in trying to check how the 3GPP IMS system will work in practice with ENUM. >(I note in passing that recent comments from some on IN-based systems seem to >have missed this little potential user-base). I agree . you want to write one ?? >all the best, > Lawrence >-- >lwc@roke.co.uk: +44 1794 833666::: > >_______________________________________________ >enum mailing list >enum@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 21 10:29:14 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA12473 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:29:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA12525 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:29:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA12145; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:19:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA12113 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:19:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from zeus.anet-chi.com (root@zeus.anet-chi.com [207.7.4.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA12137 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from repligate (as1b-142.chi.il.dial.anet.com [198.92.157.142]) by zeus.anet-chi.com (8.12.1/8.12.0) with SMTP id g0LFJnW9001549; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:19:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <024c01c1a28f$20c63c10$8328fea9@repligate> From: "Jim Fleming" To: "Lawrence Conroy" , "Richard Shockey" Cc: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020121095923.0427d8a8@popd.ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [Enum] Draft status Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:20:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you use a 2002 prefix ? Jim Fleming http://www.RepliGate.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Fleming" To: Cc: ; ; Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 9:27 PM Subject: http://www.opensrs.org/archives/discuss-list/0201/0806.html > http://www.opensrs.org/archives/discuss-list/0201/0806.html > Subject: RE: Re[2]: .biz Transfer Policy > From: Tindal, Richard (richard.tindal@neulevel.biz) > ---- > > You missed a key point which is that you are just contracted > for the Proof-of-Concept registry operations on the "toy", legacy, > IPv4 Internet. That just helps to develop a base of names for the > production services on the Next Generation Internet. The 8 top > TLDs are shown below. .BIZ has a ways to go before it can > compete with .COM. > > 0:201 .COM > 1:158 .CLUB > 2:143 .FAMILY > 3:219 .INFO > 4:58 .LLC > > 5:194 .INC > > 6:171 .TV > > 7:195 .CHURCH > > > > The Next Generation DNS architecture, focuses on reliability, > higher transaction rates, database driven updates and the ability > to have "flavors" of a TLD. As an example, we will be able to > have a .COM zone with or without the adult content names. > http://www.dot-biz.com/IPv8/Papers/LameDCache/ > > Keep everyone posted on your Proof-of-Concept progress. > The 8 TLDs above should be enough for now to test the > production-grade designs. > > Jim Fleming > 2002:[IPv4]:000X:03DB > http://www.IPv8.info > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Shockey" To: "Lawrence Conroy" Cc: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [Enum] Draft status > At 04:38 PM 1/20/2002 +0000, you wrote: > >Hi Folks, > > What is the status of draft-enum-operation? > >The copy I have is 02 (and has expired). > > Its expired ... I've submitted what I think is the final draft of the > recharter of WG based on the comments Patrik and I got back from the IESG. > I'm hoping that it can be approved at the next IESG telecon. > > At that point the WG is essentially starting out fresh and contributions > previously submitted need to be renewed ..though there has been some > discussion on the Number Portability draft etc. > > We've been in hibernation so its time to dust off earlier submissions and > revisit them in light of current events etc. > > > >It seems to me that this draft addresses points 2 & 3 in the revised charter. > >We are also looking at this area, and are not sure whether this doc is still > >under development. > > > >As an aside, IMHO some "cookbook" text could be useful - if only to help > >people > >in trying to check how the 3GPP IMS system will work in practice with ENUM. > >(I note in passing that recent comments from some on IN-based systems seem to > >have missed this little potential user-base). > > I agree . you want to write one ?? > > > >all the best, > > Lawrence > >-- > >lwc@roke.co.uk: +44 1794 833666::: > > > >_______________________________________________ > >enum mailing list > >enum@ietf.org > >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives > NeuStar Inc. > 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 > 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 > Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 > or > > > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > _______________________________________________ > enum mailing list > enum@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum > _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@ns.ietf.org Tue Jan 22 13:57:47 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA04983 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:57:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id NAA04658 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04052; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:48:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04005 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from NS1.US.PRSERV.NET ([64.180.246.83]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA04391 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:48:10 -0500 (EST) From: sydney@vkistudios.org Message-Id: <200201221848.NAA04391@ietf.org> Reply-To: seo@vkistudios.org To: enum@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:51:44 -0800 Subject: [Enum] ADV: Professional Internet Marketing Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Professional Internet Marketing, VKI Studios 1-866-733-8899
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_______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Wed Jan 23 14:02:37 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA20816 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id OAA12353 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11323; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:53:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11291 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA20464 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:53:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-239-196-26.oak.jps.net ([209.239.196.26] helo=dick.ix.netcom.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16TSWD-0005TT-00 for enum@ietf.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:53:10 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020123120953.0431ba60@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: rshockey@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:10:02 -0500 To: enum@ietf.org From: Richard Shockey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-iab-itu-enum-notes-00.txt Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org >To: IETF-Announce: ; >Cc: iab@isi.edu >From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-iab-itu-enum-notes-00.txt >Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:57:23 -0500 >Sender: nsyracus@cnri.reston.va.us > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. >This draft is a work item of the Internet Architecture Board Working Group >of the IETF. > > Title : The History and Context of ENUM Operational > Decisions: > Informational Documents Contributed to ITU-T SG2 > Author(s) : J. Klensin > Filename : draft-iab-itu-enum-notes-00.txt > Pages : > Date : 21-Jan-02 > >RFC 2916 assigned responsibility for a number of administrative and >operational details of ENUM to the IAB. It also anticipated that ITU >would take responsibility for determining the legitimacy and >appropriateness of applicants for delegation of 'country code'-level >subdomains of the top-level ENUM domain. Recently, three memos have >been prepared for the ITU-T Study Group 2 to explain the background >of, and reasoning for, the relevant decisions. The IAB has also >supplied a set of procedural instructions to The RIPE NCC for >implementation of their part of the model. The content of the three >memos is provided in this document for the information of the IETF >community. > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-itu-enum-notes-00.txt > >To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to >ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username >"anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, >type "cd internet-drafts" and then > "get draft-iab-itu-enum-notes-00.txt". > >A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in >http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > >Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > >Send a message to: > mailserv@ietf.org. >In the body type: > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-iab-itu-enum-notes-00.txt". > >NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > how to manipulate these messages. > > >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the >Internet-Draft. >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-ID: <20020121082327.I-D@ietf.org> > >ENCODING mime >FILE /internet-drafts/draft-iab-itu-enum-notes-00.txt > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@ns.ietf.org Thu Jan 24 16:06:21 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA05907 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id QAA23272 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:06:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21997; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:55:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21968 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:55:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from heron.verisign.com (heron.verisign.com [216.168.233.95]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA05461 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from VSVAPOSTALGW1.prod.netsol.com (vsvapostalgw1.prod.netsol.com [216.168.234.201]) by heron.verisign.com (nsi_0.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10616; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from arutkowski-desk.verisign.com (ARUTKOWSKI-DESK [10.131.128.39]) by VSVAPOSTALGW1.prod.netsol.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id DD9AZ7JV; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:52:03 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020124151454.00b877b0@vsvapostal1.prod.netsol.com> X-Sender: trutkowski@vsvapostal1.prod.netsol.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:55:16 -0500 To: Richard Shockey , enum@ietf.org From: Tony Rutkowski Subject: Re: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-iab-itu-enum-notes-00.txt In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020123120953.0431ba60@popd.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org > Title : The History and Context of ENUM Operational > Decisions: > Informational Documents Contributed to ITU-T SG2 Hi Rich, Since the ISOC-IAB has asserted operational responsibility for the e164.arpa domain, how does it intend to meet its obligations, for example, under Council of the European Union Resolution of 17 January 1995 on the lawful interception of telecommunications (96/C 329/01)? This seems to have been omitted. Reference especially Requirements for network functions, ETSI ES 201 158. See, e.g., the numbering based triggers required at A.3.2 in ETSI EG 201 781. --tony _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@ns.ietf.org Thu Jan 24 16:13:29 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA06088 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:13:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id QAA23705 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:13:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22943; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:04:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22915 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from joy.songbird.com (IDENT:root@songbird.com [208.184.79.7]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA05834 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:04:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from bbprime.dcrocker.net (208.184.79.252.songbird.com [208.184.79.252] (may be forged)) by joy.songbird.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09934; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:04:16 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020124130138.01c34dc0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: dhc@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:04:00 -0800 To: Tony Rutkowski From: Dave Crocker Subject: Re: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-iab-itu-enum-notes-00.txt Cc: Richard Shockey , enum@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020124151454.00b877b0@vsvapostal1.prod.netsol .com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020123120953.0431ba60@popd.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org At 03:55 PM 1/24/2002 -0500, Tony Rutkowski wrote: Since the ISOC-IAB has asserted operational responsibility >for the e164.arpa domain, how does it intend to meet >its obligations, Hi, Tony. Since ISOC-IAB has always had responsibility for the .arpa domain, how is your question relevant? Further, please recall that this mailing list is for enum protocol specification. If you are proposing work that has not yet been done, please specify what it is and what you are proposing be done to resolve it. d/ ---------- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking tel +1.408.246.8253; fax +1.408.273.6464 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Fri Jan 25 00:50:39 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA17178 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id AAA16836 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:50:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA16334; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA16303 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:38:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from gosok.com ([211.215.9.143]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id AAA16946 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:38:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200201250538.AAA16946@ietf.org> Reply-To: abc@gosok.com From: ¹ÚÁöÇö To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:38:39 +0900 Subject: [Enum] ¿Í¿ì~ ¹«·á°æÇ°½ÅûÇϱâ!!!ÇÚµåÆùÀÌ °øÂ¥!!!,¿ù±ÞÁ¤º¸!!!¾Æ¸£¹ÙÀÌÆ® ±¸Çϱâ!!!(Á¤º¸) Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org

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I'd like to poll the list to see if there is consensus that this is appropriate for the WG to take on. It will meet the new charter requirements etc. >To: IETF-Announce: ; >From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 06:52:57 -0500 >Sender: nsyracus@cnri.reston.va.us > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > > > Title : Extensible Provisioning Protocol E.164 Number > Mapping > Author(s) : S. Hollenbeck > Filename : draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > Pages : 19 > Date : 24-Jan-02 > >This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) >extension mapping for the provisioning and management of E.164 numbers >representing domain names stored in a shared central repository. >Specified in XML, this mapping extends the EPP domain name mapping to >provide additional features required for the provisioning of E.164 >numbers. > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > >To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to >ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username >"anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Different MIME-compliant mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > how to manipulate these messages. > > >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the >Internet-Draft. >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-ID: <20020124150545.I-D@ietf.org> > >ENCODING mime >FILE /internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Fri Jan 25 11:04:24 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA06041 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:04:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA22761 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA21752; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA21721 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:54:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic-naa.net (216-220-241-232.midmaine.com [216.220.241.232]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA05596 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic-naa.net (localhost.nic-naa.net [127.0.0.1]) by nic-naa.net (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g0PIpMr40012; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:51:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Message-Id: <200201251851.g0PIpMr40012@nic-naa.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Richard Shockey cc: enum@ietf.org, brunner@nic-naa.net Subject: Re: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt In-Reply-To: Message from Richard Shockey of "Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:29:40 EST." <5.1.0.14.2.20020125102812.04280070@popd.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:51:22 -0800 From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Richard, I strongly support the ENUM WG taking up this item. Eric _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Fri Jan 25 11:22:47 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA06469 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:22:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA24163 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA23599; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA23565 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from heron.verisign.com (heron.verisign.com [216.168.233.95]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA06281 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:13:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from vsvapostalgw2.prod.netsol.com (vsvapostalgw2.prod.netsol.com [216.168.234.29]) by heron.verisign.com (nsi_0.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA13752 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by vsvapostalgw2.bkup1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:13:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3CD14E451751BD42BA48AAA50B07BAD60189B5CF@vsvapostal3.bkup6> From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: enum@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:13:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Shockey [mailto:rich.shockey@NeuStar.com] > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:30 AM > To: enum@ietf.org > Subject: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > > > FYI ... I'd like to poll the list to see if there is > consensus that this is > appropriate for the WG to take on. It will meet the new charter > requirements etc. I think it's appropriate, but my bias should be obvious... -Scott- _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@ns.ietf.org Fri Jan 25 14:53:12 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA12617 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id OAA06120 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA05471; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:39:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA05440 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA12233 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:39:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from 1cust27.tnt1.winchester.va.da.uu.net ([67.201.229.27] helo=z000679) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16UCC3-00015o-00; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:39:24 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Mark Harris" To: "Richard Shockey" , Subject: RE: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:39:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020125102812.04280070@popd.ix.netcom.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Richard and all: It seems to make sense to take this on in the WG. Mark -----Original Message----- From: enum-admin@ietf.org [mailto:enum-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Richard Shockey Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:30 AM To: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt FYI ... I'd like to poll the list to see if there is consensus that this is appropriate for the WG to take on. It will meet the new charter requirements etc. >To: IETF-Announce: ; >From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 06:52:57 -0500 >Sender: nsyracus@cnri.reston.va.us > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > > > Title : Extensible Provisioning Protocol E.164 Number > Mapping > Author(s) : S. Hollenbeck > Filename : draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > Pages : 19 > Date : 24-Jan-02 > >This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) >extension mapping for the provisioning and management of E.164 numbers >representing domain names stored in a shared central repository. >Specified in XML, this mapping extends the EPP domain name mapping to >provide additional features required for the provisioning of E.164 >numbers. > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > >To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to >ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username >"anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, >type "cd internet-drafts" and then > "get draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt". > >A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in >http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > >Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > >Send a message to: > mailserv@ietf.org. >In the body type: > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt". > >NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > how to manipulate these messages. > > >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the >Internet-Draft. >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-ID: <20020124150545.I-D@ietf.org> > >ENCODING mime >FILE /internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@ns.ietf.org Fri Jan 25 16:08:02 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA14383 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:07:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id QAA10120 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA09365; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA09341 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:58:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.neustar.com (oak.neustar.com [209.173.53.70]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA14144 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:58:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from dick.neustar.com (dmz1.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.65]) by oak.neustar.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0PKwQb05689; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:58:26 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020125155203.020bd6e8@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:00:05 -0500 To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" , enum@ietf.org From: Richard Shockey Subject: RE: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt In-Reply-To: <3CD14E451751BD42BA48AAA50B07BAD60189B5CF@vsvapostal3.bkup6 > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org A > > > > FYI ... I'd like to poll the list to see if there is > > consensus that this is > > appropriate for the WG to take on. It will meet the new charter > > requirements etc. > >I think it's appropriate, but my bias should be obvious... What is your view of the scope of work here? Just define schemas ... recommend transport options etc? BEEP SOAP? and a reminder to the list ... this work came out of protocols developed in PROVREG http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/provreg-charter.html >-Scott- > >_______________________________________________ >enum mailing list >enum@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@ns.ietf.org Fri Jan 25 17:57:54 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA17418 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id RAA16069 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA15514; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:48:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA15482 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:48:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from heron.verisign.com (heron.verisign.com [216.168.233.95]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA17115 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:48:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from vsvapostalgw2.prod.netsol.com (vsvapostalgw2.prod.netsol.com [216.168.234.29]) by heron.verisign.com (nsi_0.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA06351; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:47:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by vsvapostalgw2.bkup1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:47:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3CD14E451751BD42BA48AAA50B07BAD60189B5D9@vsvapostal3.bkup6> From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: "'Richard Shockey'" , enum@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:47:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Shockey [mailto:rich.shockey@NeuStar.com] > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:00 PM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott; enum@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > > What is your view of the scope of work here? > > Just define schemas ... recommend transport options etc? BEEP SOAP? Richard, If we work from the subject I-D, the scope for this WG should definitely include data format definition (the "schema" you described) and at least a look at the transport and security options. There are already two options documented in provreg: one riding on top of TCP, and one using BEEP. We're getting close to the "where do we go next" discussion in provreg, and other transport options are a distinct possibility. If it turns out that neither of those options will work in the ENUM context now is a very good time to provide inputs into what this WG needs. We've shied away from formally recommending any specific transport in provreg because it became clear very early on that no single option would work well for everyone. We may be in a similar situation with ENUM unless there are external requirements available to help narrow the focus a bit. -Scott- _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Sat Jan 26 09:36:58 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA07509 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:36:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id JAA23621 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA22623; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA22594 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:26:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from yahoo.com ([61.79.73.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id JAA07271 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:26:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200201261426.JAA07271@ietf.org> Reply-To: blue8skk8@yahoo.com From: blue8skk8 To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 23:26:06 +0900 X-User: 2.53-hkilfmlq-imimms-Ffkjr Subject: [Enum] ¾È³çÇϼ¼¿ä? 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_______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Sat Jan 26 10:14:28 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA07750 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:14:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA24762 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:14:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24532; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:05:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24483 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA07678 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16UUNw-000EFB-00; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 07:04:52 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine Cc: Richard Shockey , enum@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020125102812.04280070@popd.ix.netcom.com> <200201251851.g0PIpMr40012@nic-naa.net> Message-Id: Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 07:04:52 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I strongly support the ENUM WG taking up this item. but could you tell us WHY? i.e. what has this to do with the charter of the wg and why? randy _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Sat Jan 26 10:43:35 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA08065 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:43:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA25806 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25513; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:34:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25482 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:34:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA07937 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:34:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from user-2iverbl.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.109.117] helo=dick.ix.netcom.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16UUqU-0001hG-00; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:34:22 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020126103047.021aca78@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: rshockey@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:35:54 -0500 To: Randy Bush , Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine From: Richard Shockey Subject: Re: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt Cc: enum@ietf.org In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020125102812.04280070@popd.ix.netcom.com> <200201251851.g0PIpMr40012@nic-naa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org At 07:04 AM 1/26/2002 -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > > I strongly support the ENUM WG taking up this item. > >but could you tell us WHY? i.e. what has this to do with the charter of >the wg and why? I'll answer that ...the proposed new charter states.. 2. The working group will examine and document various aspects of ENUM administrative and/or operational procedures as Informational. Issues to be considered include privacy and security considerations in storing ENUM related data as well as validation and authentication of data, including DDDS NAPTR records in the DNS. The working group will coordinate activities in these areas with the DNSEXT WG and PROVREG WG when appropriate. Applications may need to be developed that provision NAPTR records among various operational elements in the e164.apra domain... discussions that assist in these admin issues are therefore "in scope". >randy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Sat Jan 26 11:05:16 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA08321 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:05:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA26866 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 11:05:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26192; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26161 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:56:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic-naa.net (216-220-241-232.midmaine.com [216.220.241.232]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA08171 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:56:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic-naa.net (localhost.nic-naa.net [127.0.0.1]) by nic-naa.net (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g0QIrXr45949; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:53:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Message-Id: <200201261853.g0QIrXr45949@nic-naa.net> To: Randy Bush cc: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine , Richard Shockey , enum@ietf.org, brunner@nic-naa.net Subject: Re: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 26 Jan 2002 07:04:52 PST." Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:53:32 -0800 From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Randy, Responsibility for schema is either ENUM or PROVREG. PROVREG isn't an application-independent extensible (abstract) registry provisioning protocol specification WG, yet. As a PROVREG author, i'd prefer specific apps, e.g., ENUM, to be responsible for their own schemas. IMHO, PROVREG is best left to grapple with issues like the statefullness of EPP-participant entities, the flavors of transport between EPP entities, and other amusing ICANN-esque nuances. Adding the market politics of enum _would_not_ be helpful if moved to PROVREG. --- Scott's draft doesn't fall into the current charter's statement of non-goals. The current charter calls for specification of "update". This function is not present in the WG's current documents. I've got a testbed, I populate it via EPP, I'm interested in updates. QED. 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_______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 28 07:45:00 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA23264 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 07:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA07671 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 07:44:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA07302; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 07:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA07273 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 07:34:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from fallback.nextra.at (qsm1.nextra.at [195.170.70.44]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA23115 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 07:34:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from oefeg-mail.oefeg.at (mail.oefeg.at [194.118.12.224]) by fallback.nextra.at (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g0SCYUtR008973; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:34:44 +0100 (MET) Received: by OEFEG-MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:12:43 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Stastny, Richard" To: "'Richard Shockey'" , enum@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:12:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Richard, I support that the ENUM group is taking up this item. Richard Richard STASTNY OeFEG Arsenal Objekt 24 P.O. Box 147 A-1103 Vienna, Austria Tel: +43 664 420 4100 Fax: +43 1 79780 13 richard.stastny@oefeg.at richard@stastny.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Shockey [mailto:rich.shockey@NeuStar.com] > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:30 PM > To: enum@ietf.org > Subject: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > > > FYI ... I'd like to poll the list to see if there is > consensus that this is > appropriate for the WG to take on. It will meet the new charter > requirements etc. > > > >To: IETF-Announce: ; > >From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org > >Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org > >Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 06:52:57 -0500 > >Sender: nsyracus@cnri.reston.va.us > > > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >directories. > > > > > > Title : Extensible Provisioning Protocol > E.164 Number > > Mapping > > Author(s) : S. Hollenbeck > > Filename : draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > Pages : 19 > > Date : 24-Jan-02 > > > >This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) > >extension mapping for the provisioning and management of > E.164 numbers > >representing domain names stored in a shared central repository. > >Specified in XML, this mapping extends the EPP domain name mapping to > >provide additional features required for the provisioning of E.164 > >numbers. > > > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > > >To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to > >ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body > of the message. > > > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login > with the username > >"anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, > >type "cd internet-drafts" and then > > "get draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt". > > > >A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in > >http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > >or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > > > > >Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > > > >Send a message to: > > mailserv@ietf.org. > >In the body type: > > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt". > > > >NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before > the "FILE" > > command. To decode the response(s), you will need > "munpack" or > > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different > MIME-compliant mail readers > > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which > have been split > > up into multiple messages), so check your local > documentation on > > how to manipulate these messages. > > > > > >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > >Internet-Draft. > >Content-Type: text/plain > >Content-ID: <20020124150545.I-D@ietf.org> > > > >ENCODING mime > >FILE /internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives > NeuStar Inc. > 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 > 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 > Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 > or > > > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > _______________________________________________ > enum mailing list > enum@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum > _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 28 10:27:11 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA29128 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:27:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA16648 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16178; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16147 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:15:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cundall.co.uk (dorfl.roke.co.uk [193.118.205.3]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA28824 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [193.118.192.41] ([193.118.192.41] verified) by cundall.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.7) with ESMTP id S.0000062016 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:15:55 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: lwc@193.118.192.24 (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:15:51 +0000 To: enum@ietf.org From: Lawrence Conroy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: [Enum] Who Is? Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Hi Folks, is it intended that there will be a Whois database associated with e164.arpa and the hierarchy underneath? best regards, Lawrence -- lwc@roke.co.uk: +44 1794 833666::: _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 28 11:00:42 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA00608 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA18857 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA18234; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA18195 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:51:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic-naa.net (216-220-241-232.midmaine.com [216.220.241.232]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA00171 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:51:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic-naa.net (localhost.nic-naa.net [127.0.0.1]) by nic-naa.net (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g0SImWr51641; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:48:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Message-Id: <200201281848.g0SImWr51641@nic-naa.net> To: Lawrence Conroy cc: enum@ietf.org, brunner@nic-naa.net Subject: Re: [Enum] Who Is? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:15:51 GMT." Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:48:32 -0800 From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Lawrence, Howdy, I don't think we've met. Forgive the laconic "whois" pun. From the number of times FooCorp legal vetted Hill-bound ENUM policy stuff with me ( n > 0 ) while I, ahem, enjoyed a mutually rewarding relationship with FooCorp engineering management, specific to the issue of "whois" and data protection, my guess is that the short answer to your question is "yes". Who has the intent, which "whois" (:43, !43, other) query mechanism, what the actual data repository is (a filofax is always a safe bet), and what if any part of these fairly operational questions are in-scope for the IETF ENUM WG is a WG consensus plus IESG consent question, and my crystal ball is cracked. Always being a fan of scope, and jurisdictionally scoped policies, I guess finding out have the customary ENUM nuances. Eric wampumpeag, llc _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 28 11:11:46 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA00955 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA19725 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA19143; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA19114 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA00710 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:02:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) id <0GQN00E01OJ5UJ@firewall.wcom.com> for enum@ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:01:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp01.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.141]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GQN00E9MOJ42Z@firewall.wcom.com>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:01:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp01.wcomnet.com by dgismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GQN00301OITUK@dgismtp01.wcomnet.com>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:01:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rfreilich1 ([166.35.147.76]) by dgismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GQN0036BOIS9K@dgismtp01.wcomnet.com>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:01:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:54:33 -0600 From: Rob Freilich Subject: RE: [Enum] Who Is? In-reply-to: To: "'Lawrence Conroy'" , enum@ietf.org Reply-to: robert.freilich@wcom.com Message-id: <001001c1a814$14de2680$4c9323a6@wcomnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lawrence, I would suggest you view some of the output from the ENUM Forum's Security & Privacy Task group. http://www.enum-forum.org/ (look at the contributions section) http://www.enum-forum.org/documents/sec/SEC0011R0_Freilich_WHOIS_and_ENUM.do c At its Oct 23 meeting they discussed just this questions. The results can be summarized in three basic points agreed to by the Forum: 1. There is no current requirement for a Whois function in e164.arpa domain 2. There will be No Whois function provided in e164.arpa in order provide privacy for ENUM registrants (customers) personal. 3. And if there was an operational/maintenance need for a Whois like function then there would not be any Registrant data in the operational protocol. The main rationale for these decisions is to protect the privacy of customers. A Whois database would possibly match a customers phone number to their name and possible address. This association has serious privacy implications for this service and was the driving force on the Forum's recommendations. Rob Freilich 972-729-5139 -----Original Message----- From: enum-admin@ietf.org [mailto:enum-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence Conroy Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:16 AM To: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] Who Is? Hi Folks, is it intended that there will be a Whois database associated with e164.arpa and the hierarchy underneath? best regards, Lawrence -- lwc@roke.co.uk: +44 1794 833666::: _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 28 11:16:49 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA01179 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:16:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA20019 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:16:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA19515; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:08:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA19485 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA00865 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from user-2ivelm5.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.86.197] helo=dick.ix.netcom.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16VEJW-0005if-00; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:07:22 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020128104445.041ea0b0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: rshockey@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:46:32 -0500 To: Lawrence Conroy , enum@ietf.org From: Richard Shockey Subject: Re: [Enum] Who Is? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org At 03:15 PM 1/28/2002 +0000, Lawrence Conroy wrote: >Hi Folks, > is it intended that there will be a Whois database associated with > e164.arpa and the hierarchy underneath? IMHO there is no requirement for a WHOIS database here since it resides under a domain and not at TLD ..should nation-states want one for their portion of the E.164 plan that is their business. >best regards, > Lawrence >-- >lwc@roke.co.uk: +44 1794 833666::: > >_______________________________________________ >enum mailing list >enum@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 28 11:54:42 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA02252 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:54:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA22116 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:54:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21554; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21523 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmesmtp02.wcom.com (pmesmtp02.wcom.com [199.249.20.2]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA02027 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #42257) id <0GQN00F01QG48Q@firewall.wcom.com> for enum@ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:43:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp01.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.141]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #42257) with ESMTP id <0GQN00EEUQG40U@firewall.wcom.com>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:43:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp01.wcomnet.com by dgismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GQN00101QFWXY@dgismtp01.wcomnet.com>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:43:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rfreilich1 ([166.35.147.76]) by dgismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GQN000GBQFNQ5@dgismtp01.wcomnet.com>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:43:00 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:35:25 -0600 From: Rob Freilich Subject: RE: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.2.20020125102812.04280070@popd.ix.netcom.com> To: "'Richard Shockey'" , enum@ietf.org Reply-to: robert.freilich@wcom.com Message-id: <001801c1a819$ca443140$4c9323a6@wcomnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard, I support the ENUM WG take on this work item on. IMHO, this work item should define extensions to the EPP data schemes that would allow for the provisioning of E.164 numbers within e164.arpa domain. I am not sure how much this work item should diverge or appear to diverge from standard EPP. In addition, I would also recommend that it accept inputs from other ENUM Fora that are emerging, since they are better suited to define the content/data items that should be included in the extensions. These additional data items go beyond the fields described in RFCs 2915 and 2916. Just my 2 cents.. Rob Freilich 972-729-5139 -----Original Message----- From: enum-admin@ietf.org [mailto:enum-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Richard Shockey Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:30 AM To: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt FYI ... I'd like to poll the list to see if there is consensus that this is appropriate for the WG to take on. It will meet the new charter requirements etc. >To: IETF-Announce: ; >From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 06:52:57 -0500 >Sender: nsyracus@cnri.reston.va.us > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > > > Title : Extensible Provisioning Protocol E.164 Number > Mapping > Author(s) : S. Hollenbeck > Filename : draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > Pages : 19 > Date : 24-Jan-02 > >This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) >extension mapping for the provisioning and management of E.164 numbers >representing domain names stored in a shared central repository. >Specified in XML, this mapping extends the EPP domain name mapping to >provide additional features required for the provisioning of E.164 >numbers. > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > >To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to >ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username >"anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, >type "cd internet-drafts" and then > "get draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt". > >A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in >http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > >Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > >Send a message to: > mailserv@ietf.org. >In the body type: > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt". > >NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > how to manipulate these messages. > > >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the >Internet-Draft. >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-ID: <20020124150545.I-D@ietf.org> > >ENCODING mime >FILE /internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 28 11:57:15 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA02394 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA22257 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21810; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:48:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21781 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:48:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic-naa.net (216-220-241-232.midmaine.com [216.220.241.232]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA02140 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:48:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic-naa.net (localhost.nic-naa.net [127.0.0.1]) by nic-naa.net (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g0SJj9r51806; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:45:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Message-Id: <200201281945.g0SJj9r51806@nic-naa.net> To: robert.freilich@wcom.com cc: "'Lawrence Conroy'" , enum@ietf.org, brunner@nic-naa.net Subject: Re: [Enum] Who Is? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:54:33 CST." <001001c1a814$14de2680$4c9323a6@wcomnet.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:45:09 -0800 From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Morning Robert, ... > At its Oct 23 meeting they discussed just this questions. The results can > be summarized in three basic points agreed to by the Forum: > > 1. There is no current requirement for a Whois function in e164.arpa domain > 2. There will be No Whois function provided in e164.arpa in order provide > privacy for ENUM registrants (customers) personal. > 3. And if there was an operational/maintenance need for a Whois like > function then there would not be any Registrant data in the operational > protocol. > > The main rationale for these decisions is to protect the privacy of > customers. A Whois database would possibly match a customers phone number > to their name and possible address. This association has serious privacy > implications for this service and was the driving force on the Forum's > recommendations. These are all consistent with my recommendations at the time, though I've no idea if I even waved the tail of the flea on the tail of the dog on ... I circulated a obsolete-954 on the whois:43 mailing list around the time of the MdR ICANN meeting. Now that I think about it, Jim Reid, Clive Feather, Dan Wing, Dave Crocker, myself, and some others were close to this (the gravamen or the rational of the ENOREGISTRANTDATA design choice) in early November. See http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/enum/current/msg01291.html In that item I mentioned http://europa.eu.int/comm/internal_market/en/dataprot/wpdocs/wp33en.htm The policy expressed in that cite is EU-scoped. Not OECD- nor FTC-scoped. Oblig other-hat waving: The P3P Spec WG published An RDF Schema for P3P in on the 25th of January, and any day thereafter the W3C will make another progress announcement concerning the P3P Specification. Eric _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 28 12:10:45 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA02774 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:10:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id MAA24007 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23461; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:01:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23421 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:01:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic-naa.net (216-220-241-232.midmaine.com [216.220.241.232]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA02493 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic-naa.net (localhost.nic-naa.net [127.0.0.1]) by nic-naa.net (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g0SJwUr51833; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:58:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Message-Id: <200201281958.g0SJwUr51833@nic-naa.net> To: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine cc: robert.freilich@wcom.com, "'Lawrence Conroy'" , enum@ietf.org, brunner@nic-naa.net Subject: Re: [Enum] Who Is? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:45:09 PST." <200201281945.g0SJj9r51806@nic-naa.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:58:29 -0800 From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Sigh. A diaper call interrupted me. The point I intend to make was that all the (personally pleasing) consensus towards a EU-esque no PII view in "modern era" (post NSI monopoly) policy groveling, at least outside of the scope of "trademark infringement", including in ENUM registries and operational practice, was pre-911. The MdR ICANN meeting may have scotched the easy striping of regsitrant data, at least where the two fundamental directives (general and isdn) aren't controlling. Eric _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 28 12:17:35 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA02957 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:17:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id MAA24396 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:17:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23833; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:08:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23804 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:08:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.itu.ch (mail1.itu.ch [156.106.192.17]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA02645 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:08:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail1.itu.ch with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:08:09 +0100 Message-ID: <49ED700A32CFD511B72900508B959DFEB6E72D@mailsrv4.itu.ch> From: "Shaw, Robert" To: "'robert.freilich@wcom.com'" Cc: enum@ietf.org, "'Lawrence Conroy'" Subject: RE: [Enum] Who Is? Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:49:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Huh? danger danger... The US ENUM Forum may/could offer up views on whether they believe there is a requirement for whois underneath the United States portion of the integrated numbering plan for 1 but only within that scope (and sub-zone cut). Therefore, it'd be more appropriate to express the views below within that narrower context. I don't see how the US ENUM forum could make statements like "There is no current requirement for a Whois function in e164.arpa domain" since a) it would not be responsible for delegation at that level nor b) at any other level except subzones of a portion of 1.e164.arpa. Requirements or not for whois at other branches of that tree will be a matter of the authority for that portion of the numbering plan. Likewise, a statement like "There will be No Whois function provided in e164.arpa in order [to] provide privacy for ENUM registrants (customers) personal" doesn't make any sense since no personal data is present at that delegation level. Even if the statement was intended to be broader in context (e.g. you meant "under e164.arpa") then see scoping warning above. Bob -- Robert Shaw ITU Internet Strategy and Policy Advisor International Telecommunication Union Place des Nations, 1211 Geneva, Switzerland > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Freilich [mailto:robert.freilich@wcom.com] > Sent: 28 January 2002 16:55 > To: 'Lawrence Conroy'; enum@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Enum] Who Is? > > > Lawrence, > > I would suggest you view some of the output from the ENUM > Forum's Security & > Privacy Task group. > > http://www.enum-forum.org/ (look at the contributions section) > http://www.enum-forum.org/documents/sec/SEC0011R0_Freilich_WHO > IS_and_ENUM.do > c > > > At its Oct 23 meeting they discussed just this questions. > The results can > be summarized in three basic points agreed to by the Forum: > > 1. There is no current requirement for a Whois function in > e164.arpa domain > 2. There will be No Whois function provided in e164.arpa in > order provide > privacy for ENUM registrants (customers) personal. > 3. And if there was an operational/maintenance need for a Whois like > function then there would not be any Registrant data in the > operational > protocol. > > The main rationale for these decisions is to protect the privacy of > customers. A Whois database would possibly match a customers > phone number > to their name and possible address. This association has > serious privacy > implications for this service and was the driving force on the Forum's > recommendations. > > Rob Freilich > 972-729-5139 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: enum-admin@ietf.org [mailto:enum-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence Conroy Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:16 AM To: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] Who Is? Hi Folks, is it intended that there will be a Whois database associated with e164.arpa and the hierarchy underneath? best regards, Lawrence -- lwc@roke.co.uk: +44 1794 833666::: _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 28 12:36:41 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA03545 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id MAA25651 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24859; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24828 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:27:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA03255 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:27:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from user-2ivelm5.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.86.197] helo=dick.ix.netcom.com) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16VFYz-0005YI-00; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:27:25 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020128122311.023e5eb0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: rshockey@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:27:42 -0500 To: robert.freilich@wcom.com, "'Richard Shockey'" , enum@ietf.org From: Richard Shockey Subject: RE: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt In-Reply-To: <001801c1a819$ca443140$4c9323a6@wcomnet.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020125102812.04280070@popd.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org At 10:35 AM 1/28/2002 -0600, Rob Freilich wrote: >Richard, > >I support the ENUM WG take on this work item on. IMHO, this work item >should define extensions to the EPP data schemes that would allow for the >provisioning of E.164 numbers within e164.arpa domain. I am not sure how >much this work item should diverge or appear to diverge from standard EPP. That's the issue and what are the optional transport layers... EPP, BEEP, SOAP .. take your pick.. >In addition, I would also recommend that it accept inputs from other ENUM >Fora that are emerging, since they are better suited to define the >content/data items that should be included in the extensions. These >additional data items go beyond the fields described in RFCs 2915 and 2916. I certainly hope so since the draft cut off dates will be upon us in no time. If you want slots to speak in Minneapolis and you have a draft out there .... let me know. Other emerging ENUM fora are more than welcome to offer up an ID to report on ongoing activities etc. Bob your draft was a excellent first start. >Just my 2 cents.. > >Rob Freilich >972-729-5139 > > > -----Original Message----- >From: enum-admin@ietf.org [mailto:enum-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >Richard Shockey >Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:30 AM >To: enum@ietf.org >Subject: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > >FYI ... I'd like to poll the list to see if there is consensus that this is >appropriate for the WG to take on. It will meet the new charter >requirements etc. > > > >To: IETF-Announce: ; > >From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org > >Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org > >Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 06:52:57 -0500 > >Sender: nsyracus@cnri.reston.va.us > > > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >directories. > > > > > > Title : Extensible Provisioning Protocol E.164 Number > > Mapping > > Author(s) : S. Hollenbeck > > Filename : draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > Pages : 19 > > Date : 24-Jan-02 > > > >This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) > >extension mapping for the provisioning and management of E.164 numbers > >representing domain names stored in a shared central repository. > >Specified in XML, this mapping extends the EPP domain name mapping to > >provide additional features required for the provisioning of E.164 > >numbers. > > > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > > >To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to > >ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. > > > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the >username > >"anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, > >type "cd internet-drafts" and then > > "get draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt". > > > >A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in > >http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > >or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > > > > >Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > > > >Send a message to: > > mailserv@ietf.org. > >In the body type: > > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt". > > > >NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" > > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or > > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail >readers > > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > > how to manipulate these messages. > > > > > >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > >Internet-Draft. > >Content-Type: text/plain > >Content-ID: <20020124150545.I-D@ietf.org> > > > >ENCODING mime > >FILE /internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives >NeuStar Inc. >45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 >1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 >Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 > or > > > ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > >_______________________________________________ >enum mailing list >enum@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum > > >_______________________________________________ >enum mailing list >enum@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 28 13:09:43 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA04623 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id NAA27296 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:09:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26423; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26392 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from fallback.nextra.at (qsm1.nextra.at [195.170.70.44]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA04155 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from oefeg-mail.oefeg.at (mail.oefeg.at [194.118.12.224]) by fallback.nextra.at (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g0SHx2tQ007253; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:59:02 +0100 (MET) Received: by OEFEG-MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:33:14 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Stastny, Richard" To: "'Lawrence Conroy'" , enum@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Enum] Who Is? Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:33:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org Hi Conroy, I always thought that WHOIS serves certain purposes. One is, to provide information on technical contacts to ensure the proper operation of the DNS. IMHO we should try to set up the requirements on a WHOIS for ENUM first, before making statements like the one in the US ENUM Forum, that no WHOIS is needed at all. Of course the currently very (over)sensitive issue of privacy should be considered as well. I could imagine a restricted WHOIS at the Tier 1 level containing technical contact and registrar contact only. For further information related to the user (admin contact and domain name holder) the registar may be contacted by other means if required or necessary. I think that is the way WHOIS under ccTLDs is going in Europe anyway. regards Richard Richard STASTNY OeFEG Arsenal Objekt 24 P.O. Box 147 A-1103 Vienna, Austria Tel: +43 664 420 4100 Fax: +43 1 79780 13 richard.stastny@oefeg.at richard@stastny.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence Conroy [mailto:lwc@roke.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:16 PM > To: enum@ietf.org > Subject: [Enum] Who Is? > > > Hi Folks, > is it intended that there will be a Whois database > associated with > e164.arpa and the hierarchy underneath? > > best regards, > Lawrence > -- > lwc@roke.co.uk: +44 1794 833666::: > > _______________________________________________ > enum mailing list > enum@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum > _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Mon Jan 28 15:11:00 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA07557 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:11:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id PAA03063 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA02231; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA02200 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from rainier.illuminet.com ([63.116.20.100]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07288 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:57:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from olwinexsmtp01.corp.illuminet.com (olwinexsmtp01.corp.illuminet.com [172.20.1.9]) by rainier.illuminet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18907; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:56:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by olwinexsmtp01.corp.illuminet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:56:56 -0800 Message-ID: <1C1EEC765F843E44996971A80682118B014B0E91@opwinex02.corp.illuminet.com> From: Kevin McCandless To: "'Richard Shockey'" , enum@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:56:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org I strongly support EPP for provisioning E.164 numbers. There was a lot of support for this draft in the Industry ENUM forum. We would like to see this document reach RFC borrowing any necessary corrections, if any. Kevin McCandless -----Original Message----- From: Richard Shockey [mailto:rich.shockey@NeuStar.com] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:30 AM To: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt FYI ... I'd like to poll the list to see if there is consensus that this is appropriate for the WG to take on. It will meet the new charter requirements etc. >To: IETF-Announce: ; >From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 06:52:57 -0500 >Sender: nsyracus@cnri.reston.va.us > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > > > Title : Extensible Provisioning Protocol E.164 Number > Mapping > Author(s) : S. Hollenbeck > Filename : draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > Pages : 19 > Date : 24-Jan-02 > >This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) >extension mapping for the provisioning and management of E.164 numbers >representing domain names stored in a shared central repository. >Specified in XML, this mapping extends the EPP domain name mapping to >provide additional features required for the provisioning of E.164 >numbers. > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > >To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to >ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username >"anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, >type "cd internet-drafts" and then > "get draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt". > >A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in >http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > >Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > >Send a message to: > mailserv@ietf.org. >In the body type: > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt". > >NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > how to manipulate these messages. > > >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the >Internet-Draft. >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-ID: <20020124150545.I-D@ietf.org> > >ENCODING mime >FILE /internet-drafts/draft-hollenbeck-epp-e164-02.txt > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives NeuStar Inc. 45980 Center Oak Plaza Bldg 8 Sterling, VA 20166 1120 Vermont Ave NW Suite 400 Washington DC 20005 Voice +1 571.434.5651 Cell : +1 314.503.0640, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 or <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Tue Jan 29 08:00:07 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA01886 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:00:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id IAA28062 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA27488; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA27457 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from cundall.co.uk (dorfl.roke.co.uk [193.118.205.3]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id HAA01642 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:48:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from [193.118.192.41] ([193.118.192.41] verified) by cundall.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.7) with ESMTP id S.0000062060 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:48:30 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: lwc@193.118.192.24 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:48:30 +0000 To: enum@ietf.org From: Lawrence Conroy Subject: RE: [Enum] Who Is? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org >Hi Conroy, > >I always thought that WHOIS serves certain purposes. One is, to provide >information on technical contacts to ensure the proper operation of the DNS. > >IMHO we should try to set up the requirements on a WHOIS for ENUM first, >before making statements like the one in the US ENUM Forum, that no WHOIS is >needed at all. Of course the currently very (over)sensitive issue of privacy >should be considered as well. > >I could imagine a restricted WHOIS at the Tier 1 level containing technical >contact and registrar contact only. For further information related to the >user (admin contact and domain name holder) the registar may be contacted by >other means if required or necessary. I think that is the way WHOIS under >ccTLDs is going in Europe anyway. > >regards >Richard > Hi Richard, Folks, many thanks for all of your comments. Richard highlights my concerns here - I believe that there -is- a place for technical/registrar contact information. I'm sure that the owners of Huntingdon Life Sciences would agree that having registrand/personal contact information is another matter. On other points: I take Bob Shaw's point; however, I know that Rob Freilich had no intention to suggest that the prerogatives either of the ITU or of other nation states were being ignored. On Eric's point that "the world has changed", yes, but only if it has an influence on the requirements for legal operation within a given jurisdiction; i.e. if I still get sued, the world hasn't changed at all. all the best, Lawrence -- lwc@roke.co.uk: +44 1794 833666::: _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From daemon@optimus.ietf.org Tue Jan 29 11:17:27 2002 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA07898 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:17:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA10454 for enum-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from optimus.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09981; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:08:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf.org (odin [132.151.1.176]) by optimus.ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09952 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic-naa.net (216-220-241-232.midmaine.com [216.220.241.232]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA07549 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:08:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic-naa.net (localhost.nic-naa.net [127.0.0.1]) by nic-naa.net (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g0TJ4Zr54316; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:04:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Message-Id: <200201291904.g0TJ4Zr54316@nic-naa.net> To: enum@ietf.org cc: brunner@nic-naa.net Subject: Re: [Enum] Who Is? Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:04:35 -0800 From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine Sender: enum-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-admin@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Enum Discussion List X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org >I always thought that WHOIS serves certain purposes. One is, to provide >information on technical contacts to ensure the proper operation of the DNS. WHOIS servers are maintained by address registries, as well as domain name registries. >IMHO we should try to set up the requirements on a WHOIS for ENUM first, >before making statements like ... In no particular order (except perhaps reversed lexical): the wesson whois draft the faltstrom and kosters whois draft the hall whois ldap draft the campbell whois draft the brunner whois draft And elsewhere: the icann dnso whois task force And still elsewhere: the iab (internet advertising board) and dma (direct mail assn) and wap forum and ... works of art. Please determine the application domain specific [ENUM] query mechanism requirements, if jurisdictional scope arises, so be it. if it makes some sense to call the resulting protocol "whois", so be it. There are two mailing lists which i'm aware of, relating to rfc954: http://www.imc.org/ietf-whois/mail-archive/ And http://lists.research.netsol.com/pipermail/ietf-not43/ Just as I don't want ENUM fun-and-games to spill over into PROVREG, but do want an schema for provisioning ENUM registries via EPP, I don't want ENUM fun-and-games to spill over into any (eventual) WHOIS:43 or WHOIS!43 BoFs or WGs. I suggest if there are requirements, they get thrashed out here, when ripe. 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