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Did any of you get this message?

I'm running into mail problems it seems.

Yes this is informational .. but can we get the correct boiler plate on this
so I can take it and the BLR and combined into WGLC.

BTW Alex have you given the latest BLR and enum combined the nits test?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Mayrhofer [mailto:alexander.mayrhofer@enum.at]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:20 AM
> To: lconroy
> Cc: 'enum@ietf.org'; Stastny Richard; Livingood,Jason; Pfautz, Penn L,NEO
> Subject: Re: [Enum] NITS review of draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-03
> 
> lconroy wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >   OK, whilst we're at the level of boilerplate changes, I believe that
> I-Ds
> > are supposed to indicate their intended status (i.e. what track they're
> > on).
> > Most all of the other drafts in the WG don't, but at the top of the
> > document
> > you could put in "Intended Status: Informational".
> 
> yep. Afaik leaving that out means "standards track".
> 
> > Look at <draft-ietf-enum-edns0-00.txt> as an example of a draft aimed at
> > BCP status. (It's VERY easy to do if the draft is XML-based and uses
> > XML2RFC).
> >
> > Also, the citation of the requirements document needs to be updated.
> 
> thanks for catching that, Lawrence.
> 
> cheers
> 
> Alex
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Folks,
=20
Alex detected in the NITS Reviews for draft-ietf-enum-combined and
draft-ietf-enum-branch-location-record beside the normal NITS also
that there are some mismatches and duplications between the two drafts
=20
So the authors decided to up-issue both drafts before christmas latest
=20
Stay tuned
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Richard

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FYI

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> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.
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>         RFC 4759
> 
>         Title:      The ENUM Dip Indicator Parameter
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>         Author:     R. Stastny, R. Shockey,
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	Title		: The ENUM Branch Location Record
	Author(s)	: O. Lendl
	Filename	: draft-ietf-enum-branch-location-record-02.txt
	Pages		: 9
	Date		: 2006-12-12
	
This documents defines the ENUM Branch Location record (EBL) which is
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	Title		: Combined User and Infrastructure ENUM in the e164.arpa tree
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	Filename	: draft-ietf-enum-combined-03.txt
	Pages		: 12
	Date		: 2006-12-15
	
This memo defines an interim solution for Infrastructure ENUM to
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Duane wrote:

> As I wrote in a previous email, people won't enter every possible type
> of enum service and how they can be contacted.

I've had a re-think on this, at least to a limited extent, take for
example jingle/xmpp integration into Asterisk/FreeSwitch etc, asterisk
obviously can't text message (unless you wanted to go into text to
speech/speech to text), and a client like gaim can't handle voice, so I
guess this is where listing type of services available in DNS comes in
so clients don't need to handshake to indicate what they can accept.
Although I guess the down side to not listing is of course lagged
initial setup, but would this be detrimental?

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Hi,

i've done a NITS review on the new version of the branch location record
draft. It is in fairly good shape, there are just a few little issues (but i
think they could be corrected together with the issues from the upcoming WG
last call):

- idnits reports 3 false hits on "badly formatted ip addresses" - actually
it interprets ENUM domains as IP addresses. hence, rather an issue with
idnits itself than with the draft.

- Section 1: "URI" is never expanded, "NAPTR" is expanded later (in section
3) - that definition could be moved here.

- Section 3: could move the "NAPTR" definition to section 1, remove the
second expansion of "FQDN" in item (1.) in the second list - it is already
there in the paragraph after the first list.

- last paragraph in section 3: "RFC 3271" should most likely be "RFC 3761".

- Section 5: afaik the +43 and the +49 numbers don't seem to be drama
numbers - the RFC editor requests all phone numbers in the text to be drama
numbers.

that's it.

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There are already some minor editorial issues to deal with but we can begin.


	Title		: The ENUM Branch Location Record
	Author(s)	: O. Lendl
	Filename	: draft-ietf-enum-branch-location-record-02.txt
	Pages		: 9
	Date		: 2006-12-12
	
This documents defines the ENUM Branch Location record (EBL) which is
   used to indicate where the ENUM tree for special ENUM application is
   located.  The primary application for the EBL record is to provide a
   temporary solution for the Infrastructure ENUM tree location.

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-branch-location-record-0
2.txt


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I think its probably time to go ahead with WGLC here ... we'll be dealing
with three documents all related to Infrastructure ENUM. 

The first two we can start on now and we will shortly have
draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-04.txt

	Title		: Combined User and Infrastructure ENUM in the
e164.arpa tree
	Author(s)	: M. Haberler, R. Stastny
	Filename	: draft-ietf-enum-combined-03.txt
	Pages		: 12
	Date		: 2006-12-15
	
This memo defines an interim solution for Infrastructure ENUM to
   allow a combined User and Infrastructure ENUM implementation in
   e164.arpa as a national choice until the long-term solution is
   approved.  This interim solution will be deprecated after approval of
   the long-term solution.

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-combined-03.txt

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We do have an intro section in the doc (section 2).

Table of Contents

1. Terminology	2
2. Introduction	2
3. IANA Considerations	3
4. DNS Root for Infrastructure ENUM	3
5. Security and Privacy Considerations	3
6. Acknowledgements	4
7. References	4
7.1 Normative References	4
7.2 Informative References	4
Authors' Addresses	5
Intellectual Property and Copyright Statements	5
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Shockey [mailto:richard@shockey.us]=20
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> Plus it seems it needs an introduction as well.
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> All drafts are required to have an "Introduction" Section per=20
> the document
> below:
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> It looks like it needs a 04 ... and then a NIT Check from Alexander
>=20
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dale.Worley@comcast.net [mailto:Dale.Worley@comcast.net]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 9:54 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [Enum] RE: I-D=20
> > ACTION:draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-03.txt
> >=20
> >    From: "Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us>
> >=20
> >    Is the WG satisified that this document is finished and=20
> we can go=20
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Thanks for your detailed feedback from the NITS review - we made these
changes in -04 draft, to be submitted soon.

Regards
Jason=20

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> Subject: [Enum] NITS review of draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-03
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> I've found the following issues with the current draft:
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> - Boilerplate: I believe that rsn, the I-D-Team will only=20
> accept drafts with the new boilerplate (recognizing the IETF=20
> Trust). Please update accordingly.

CHANGE MADE

> - Abstract: There are non-ASCII-Characters around e164.arpa -=20
> most probably "fancy" apostrophes... Please remove them.

CHANGE MADE

> - ToC: The title of section 4 in the ToC differs from the=20
> title of the section itself. Please fix.

CHANGE MADE
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> - Terminology: The draft does not contain a single instanct=20
> of RFC2119-style key words. Hence, either remove that=20
> section, or add such key words where they should apply. In=20
> that case it is being kept, please add a proper reference to=20
> RFC 2119 (currently, the reference does not point to the list=20
> of references).

RFC 2119 is cited as normative reference #10.  We also have a MUST in
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> - Section 4, Section 3: I'd rather swap them.

CHANGE MADE

> - (current) Section 4: Please add a reference (informative,=20
> probably) to RFC 2870.

CHANGE MADE
=20
> - Section 5: Please use only "example.com/.net/.org" (or=20
> subdomains off
> there) in the examples. Simply appending one of the TLDs to=20
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CHANGE MADE, removed all of the uncited references and renumbered.

> hope that helps.
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Thanks - updated the reference to Infrastrucure ENUM Requirements,
draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-enum-reqs-03.

This change will be reflected in an upcoming -04 of the draft.

Jason

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> Subject: Re: [Enum] NITS review of draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-03
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> Hi Folks,
>    OK, whilst we're at the level of boilerplate changes, I=20
> believe that I-Ds are supposed to indicate their intended=20
> status (i.e. what track they're on).
> Most all of the other drafts in the WG don't, but at the top=20
> of the document you could put in "Intended Status: Informational".
> Look at <draft-ietf-enum-edns0-00.txt> as an example of a=20
> draft aimed at BCP status. (It's VERY easy to do if the draft=20
> is XML-based and uses XML2RFC).
>=20
> Also, the citation of the requirements document needs to be updated.
>=20
> all the best,
>    Lawrence
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> On 20 Nov 2006, at 15:38, Alexander Mayrhofer wrote:
> > I've found the following issues with the current draft:
> >
> > - Boilerplate: I believe that rsn, the I-D-Team will only accept=20
> > drafts with the new boilerplate (recognizing the IETF=20
> Trust). Please=20
> > update accordingly.
> >
> > - Abstract: There are non-ASCII-Characters around e164.arpa - most=20
> > probably "fancy" apostrophes... Please remove them.
> >
> > - ToC: The title of section 4 in the ToC differs from the=20
> title of the=20
> > section itself. Please fix.
> >
> > - Terminology: The draft does not contain a single instanct of=20
> > RFC2119-style key words. Hence, either remove that section, or add=20
> > such key words where they should apply. In that case it is=20
> being kept,=20
> > please add a proper reference to RFC 2119 (currently, the reference=20
> > does not point to the list of references).
> >
> > - Section 4, Section 3: I'd rather swap them.
> >
> > - (current) Section 4: Please add a reference (informative,
> > probably) to RFC
> > 2870.
> >
> > - Section 5: Please use only "example.com/.net/.org" (or subdomains=20
> > off
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> > example URIs will do..
> >
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> (like [5],=20
> > [6], [7], [8], [9] (btw, that doesn't seem to have it's place here=20
> > anyway)). If you really want to refer to obsoleted RFC 2916, please=20
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> >
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Attached is the new -04 draft, which was just submitted to the editor.
Attaching here as an early preview and in case Rich & Patrik want to ask
for WGLC on the document.

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