From matt@internet2.edu Thu Aug 9 16:59:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA78D21F8613 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:58:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id INUzJx1Cfkjw for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from int-proxy01.merit.edu (int-proxy01.merit.edu [207.75.116.230]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5349621F8610 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by int-proxy01.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAA310006E for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:58:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at int-proxy01.merit.edu Received: from int-proxy01.merit.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (int-proxy01.merit.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id oK3jQkmVKRMd for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from matt.local (c-98-243-175-79.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [98.243.175.79]) by int-proxy01.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 69532100025 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <50244EBF.7010709@internet2.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:58:55 -0400 From: Matthew J Zekauskas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF IPPM WG References: <13205C286662DE4387D9AF3AC30EF456D771989330@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> In-Reply-To: <13205C286662DE4387D9AF3AC30EF456D771989330@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <13205C286662DE4387D9AF3AC30EF456D771989330@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040304000405010008050704" Subject: [ippm] Fwd: Liaison Statement from the Broadband Forum X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:59:00 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040304000405010008050704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI, if folks here want to review. Ron wants comments to ietf@ietf.org. --Matt --------------040304000405010008050704 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Liaison Statement from the Broadband Forum.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Liaison Statement from the Broadband Forum.eml" Return-Path: ietf-bounces@ietf.org Received: from int-proxy02.merit.edu (LHLO int-proxy02.merit.edu) (10.108.1.231) by int-mailstore01.merit.edu with LMTP; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by int-proxy02.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA51D1203E4 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:48:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at int-proxy02.merit.edu Authentication-Results: int-proxy02.merit.edu (amavisd-new); dkim=pass header.i=@ietf.org Received: from int-proxy02.merit.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (int-proxy02.merit.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id LDJU++e+cZL2 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sfpop-ironport03.merit.edu (unknown [207.75.116.62]) by int-proxy02.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31991203E1 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:48:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Merit-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQBAIzgI1AMFjoekmdsb2JhbABFgm22dSIBAQEBCQsLGSmCIgEEAQEBDAECAiYGAQEEAwcqAgMBAgYCAQE+CAgDAS4mAQQYAwEZh2sBAgicNAkDimUBhC8BBZAHBpETYKhW X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,743,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="304841452" Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by sfpop-ironport03.merit.edu with ESMTP; 09 Aug 2012 19:48:49 -0400 Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FAF21F8690; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:48:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ietf.org; s=ietf1; t=1344556128; bh=QM7G2PEPuInLKLL69EcZfxJ+GU4zXHjhOraKpLiUz08=; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:Sender; b=rniCVnDflZKH8Hhqx8PgDdDnLIkN7McrPtBY2T6orU9OXNkVGYCBDDbwms4j8gDXQ y4WcXuB8QJVbUGj6Us4Wuw4qbukh9jH968oKvocMscy4A2z3sM75WGyEf1XEVR6CLU zIMDbM+35uWcqiohiEJqtnmuZi+XDpbHztKzJF0E= X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D215621F8694 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:48:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cxgmvd9aZWWv for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og110.obsmtp.com (exprod7og110.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.173]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA5E21F8690 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob110.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUCRMXY8P0XB8Id7+RbHJfj29ePZzkGnG@postini.com; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:48:46 PDT Received: from p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.24) by P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:47:15 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::d0d1:653d:5b91:a123%11]) with mapi; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:47:14 -0400 From: Ronald Bonica To: IETF Discussion Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:47:12 -0400 Subject: Liaison Statement from the Broadband Forum Thread-Topic: Liaison Statement from the Broadband Forum Thread-Index: Ac12iUxanGB/fuvuSKermmvvwbOu4Q== Message-ID: <13205C286662DE4387D9AF3AC30EF456D771989330@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org Folks, The Broadband Forum has sent a liaison statement to the IETF regarding a "N= ew Project - Broadband Access Service Attributes and Performance Measures".= =20 Click on the following link for details: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liais= on/1179/. Please review and send comments to this list. -------------------------- Ron Bonica vcard: www.bonica.org/ron/ronbonica.vcf --------------040304000405010008050704-- From Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de Thu Aug 9 23:33:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E0221F8628; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 23:33:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FemgKRFRRT7N; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 23:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcmail33.telekom.de (tcmail33.telekom.de [194.25.30.7]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953A921F8621; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 23:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from he113656.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.134.99.16]) by tcmail31.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 10 Aug 2012 08:33:40 +0200 Received: from HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.134.93.17]) by HE113656.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([::1]) with mapi; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:33:40 +0200 From: To: Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:33:39 +0200 Thread-Topic: [ippm] Fwd: Liaison Statement from the Broadband Forum Thread-Index: Ac12ivfeUwStqsPCSreOgERWfwQNCAANZygg Message-ID: <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D14DD77A228@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <13205C286662DE4387D9AF3AC30EF456D771989330@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> <50244EBF.7010709@internet2.edu> In-Reply-To: <50244EBF.7010709@internet2.edu> Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: ietf@ietf.org, ippm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ippm] Fwd: Liaison Statement from the Broadband Forum X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 06:33:47 -0000 Matt, I've read the liaision statement. The BBF informs us, that they plan to "create a standard set of Broadband performance metrics to address on-going regulatory, and consumer performance information needs." BBF asks for guidance and support. From the document I couldn't identify the architecture. I personally think IPPM members may volunteer to suggest IETF metrics to BBF. But to me that requires that the architecture is clearly defined (by BBF). Regards, Ruediger -----Original Message----- From: ippm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ippm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mat= thew J Zekauskas Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:59 AM To: IETF IPPM WG Subject: [ippm] Fwd: Liaison Statement from the Broadband Forum FYI, if folks here want to review. Ron wants comments to ietf@ietf.org. --Matt ------------------- Folks, The Broadband Forum has sent a liaison statement to the IETF regarding a "N= ew Project - Broadband Access Service Attributes and Performance Measures". Click on the following link for details: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liais= on/1179/. Please review and send comments to this list. -------------------------- Ron Bonica vcard: www.bonica.org/ron/ronbonica.vcf From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Tue Aug 14 09:28:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1686221F8745; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:28:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.996 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.996 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.004, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_93=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vshQMhUNvEpQ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956CB21F8738; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id C96AFB1E00B; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:26:49 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20120814162649.C96AFB1E00B@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ippm@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [ippm] RFC 6673 on Round-Trip Packet Loss Metrics X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:28:15 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6673 Title: Round-Trip Packet Loss Metrics Author: A. Morton Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: August 2012 Mailbox: acmorton@att.com Pages: 14 Characters: 28458 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-ippm-rt-loss-05.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6673.txt Many user applications (and the transport protocols that make them possible) require two-way communications. To assess this capability, and to achieve test system simplicity, round-trip loss measurements are frequently conducted in practice. The Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol specified in RFC 5357 establishes a round-trip loss measurement capability for the Internet. However, there is currently no round-trip packet loss metric specified according to the RFC 2330 framework. This memo adds round-trip loss to the set of IP Performance Metrics (IPPM). [STANDARDS-TRACK] This document is a product of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard Protocol. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Tue Aug 14 09:28:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800F221F876A; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:28:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.296 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.296 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.304, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mWWCYuV2b8Wk; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A405821F8720; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 4A7BAB1E006; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:27:01 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20120814162701.4A7BAB1E006@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ippm@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [ippm] RFC 6703 on Reporting IP Network Performance Metrics: Different Points of View X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:28:33 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6703 Title: Reporting IP Network Performance Metrics: Different Points of View Author: A. Morton, G. Ramachandran, G. Maguluri Status: Informational Stream: IETF Date: August 2012 Mailbox: acmorton@att.com, gomathi@att.com, gmaguluri@att.com Pages: 27 Characters: 60152 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-ippm-reporting-metrics-09.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6703.txt Consumers of IP network performance metrics have many different uses in mind. This memo provides "long-term" reporting considerations (e.g., hours, days, weeks, or months, as opposed to 10 seconds), based on analysis of the points of view of two key audiences. It describes how these audience categories affect the selection of metric parameters and options when seeking information that serves their needs. This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is published for informational purposes. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From Maha.Abdallah@lip6.fr Tue Aug 14 11:40:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D7E21F85DD for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:40:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.518 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.518 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.433, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, J_CHICKENPOX_27=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pY2bccj-pWan for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isis.lip6.fr (isis.lip6.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3302:283c::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D20D21F85D6 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from poleia.lip6.fr (mailtwo.desir.lip6.fr [132.227.205.24]) by isis.lip6.fr (8.14.5/lip6) with ESMTP id q7EIenlC015548 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:40:50 +0200 (CEST) X-pt: isis.lip6.fr Received: by poleia.lip6.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 20CF5C22A0; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:40:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 66.44.49.79 (SquirrelMail authenticated user abdallah) by mailtwo.lip6.fr with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:40:44 +0200 Message-ID: <1c1cdef0033f76dfb0061ac2ad7f639f.squirrel@mailtwo.lip6.fr> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:40:44 +0200 From: "Maha Abdallah" To: ippm@ietf.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (isis.lip6.fr [132.227.60.2]); Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:40:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 132.227.60.2 Subject: [ippm] NetGames'12 -- 3 weeks to deadline (In-Coop. with ACM SIGCOMM/SIGMM -- Technically Co-Sponsored by IEEE ComSoc) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:40:56 -0000 ----------------------------[NetGames 2012 CFP]-------------------------- The 11th Annual Workshop on Network and Systems Support for Games NetGames 2012 November 22-23, 2012 Venice, Italy http://netgames2012.lip6.fr/ In co-operation with ACM SIGCOMM/SIGMM Technically sponsored by IEEE Communications Society OVERVIEW ========= The 11th edition of the annual International Workshop on Network and Systems Support for Games (NetGames) will be held in Venice, Italy, on November 22-23 2012. As in previous years, NetGames brings together researchers and practitioners from both academia and industry to present the latest research results and challenges of today’s networked games, and to understand their requirements and possibilities in order to enable the next generation of networked games. NetGames will also have industry keynote and panel discussions with leading researchers and practitioners from gaming companies. Submissions are solicited on all aspects of networked games, including (but not limited to): - Scalability, cloud support, client-server, and P2P system architectures - Efficient message distribution and network protocol design - Latency issues and lag compensation techniques - Network traffic modeling, measurement, and impact on network infrastructure - System benchmarking, performance evaluation, and provisioning - Operating system enhancements, service platforms, and middleware - Massively Multiplayer Online Gaming (MMOG) - Multiplayer usability and user behavior studies - Personal communications and conferencing in games - Mobile games, resource-constrained systems, and context-based adaptation - Networks of sensors and actuators, networked haptics - Quality of service, quality of experience, and content adaptation - Dynamic and user-generated content authoring and management - Content creation: non-linear storytelling, object capturing, algorithmic creation - Security, authentication, accounting and digital rights management - Cheat detection and prevention - Social networking in multiplayer games IMPORTANT DATES ================ Full/Short Paper Submission Deadline: September 2, 2012 Demo Paper Submission Deadline: September 30, 2012 Notification of Decisions: October 14, 2012 Registration/Final Paper Due: October 28, 2012 SUBMISSIONS ============ Contributions can be submitted as full papers, posters, or demos: Full paper 6 pages Short paper 2 pages Demo 3 pages Submissions are in PDF and should follow the IEEE conference proceedings format. Full papers will be presented in the single track session, short papers will be presented as posters, while demos require actual demonstration of a working proof-of-concept or prototype. Reviews will be single-blind, authors must include their names and affiliations on the first page. Papers will be judged on their relevance, technical content and correctness, and the clarity of presentation of the research. Papers should not be under review at another venue nor previously published elsewhere. Accepted papers will be archived in the ACM Digital Library and IEEE Xplore, and published in the workshop proceedings. Submission of a paper for review will be considered your agreement that at least one author will register and attend the workshop if your paper is accepted. Workshop Chairs ================ Maha Abdallah, Pierre and Marie Curie University, France Khaled Boussetta, University of Paris 13, France Local Arrangement Chairs ========================= Claudio Palazzi, Università degli Studi di Padova, Italy Sabina Rossi, Università Ca'Foscari di Venezia, Italy Industry Liaisons Chairs ========================= Dario Maggiorini, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy Laura Anna Ripamonti, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy Technical Program Committee ============================ Grenville Armitage, Swinburne University of Technology, Australia Ernst Biersack, Institute Eurecom, France Surendar Chandra, FXPAL, USA Kuan-Ta Chen, Academia Sinica, Taiwan Mark Claypool, Worcester Polytechnic Institute, USA Wu-chang Feng, Portland State University, USA Chris GautierDickey, University of Denver, USA Steven Gianvecchio, MITRE Corp., USA Carsten Griwodz, Simula Research Laboratory, Norway Pål Halvorsen, University of Oslo/Simula, Norway Shun-Yun Hu, Academia Sinica, Taiwan Alexandru Iosup, Delft University of Technology, The Netherlands Ben Leong, National University of Singapore, Singapore Martin Mauve, University of Dusseldorf, Germany Ketan Mayer-Patel, University of North Carolina at Chapell Hill, USA Richard Mortier, University of Nottingham, UK Timo Ojala, University of Oulu, Finland Wei Tsang Ooi, National University of Singapore, Singapore Marius Preda, TELECOM SudParis, France Shervin Shirmohammadi, University of Ottawa, Canada Gwendal Simon, TELECOM Bretagne, France Jouni Smed, University of Turku, Finland Jeff Yan, University of Newcastle, UK Sebastian Zander, Swinburne University of Technology, Australia Steering Committee =================== Maha Abdallah, Pierre and Marie Curie University, France Grenville Armitage, Swinburne University of Technology, Australia Adrian Cheok, National University of Singapore, Singapore Mark Claypool, Worcester Polytechnic Institute, USA Carsten Griwodz, Simula Research Laboratory, Norway Tristan Henderson, University of St Andrews, UK Sugih Jamin, University of Michigan, USA Shervin Shirmohammadi, University of Ottawa, Canada Lars Wolf, Technische Universität Braunschweig, Germany ----------------------------[NetGames 2012 CFP]-------------------------- From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Mon Aug 20 07:41:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854D021F8674 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:41:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.289, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LrNIZIA4lkJ9 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD6521F84C8 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 73BB9B1E004; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:40:03 -0700 (PDT) To: Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de, acmorton@att.com, rfardid@cariden.com, Alexander.Steinmitz@telekom.de, wes@mti-systems.com, martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu, matt@internet2.edu, henk@uijterwaal.nl From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20120820144003.73BB9B1E004@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:40:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:43:02 -0700 Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, acmorton@att.com, ippm@ietf.org Subject: [ippm] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC6576 (3326) X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:41:53 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6576, "IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) Standard Advancement Testing". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6576&eid=3326 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Al Morton Section: 3. Original Text ------------- Corrected Text -------------- New Section 3.7 Errata Evaluation The process of evaluating each metric RFC MUST include an examination of the current Errata for possible inclusion in the revised text. Notes ----- This omission pointed out by Brian Carpenter Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC6576 (draft-ietf-ippm-metrictest-05) -------------------------------------- Title : IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) Standard Advancement Testing Publication Date : March 2012 Author(s) : R. Geib, Ed., A. Morton, R. Fardid, A. Steinmitz Category : BEST CURRENT PRACTICE Source : IP Performance Metrics Area : Transport Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From henk@uijterwaal.nl Wed Aug 22 01:53:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A7321F8576 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 01:53:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.24 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.24 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.744, BAYES_05=-1.11, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hbxRdG1nyYF6 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 01:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6584321F850C for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 01:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from geir.local (thuis.uijterwaal.nl [82.95.178.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q7M8qiuc086894 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:52:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from henk@uijterwaal.nl) Message-ID: <50349DDC.7020208@uijterwaal.nl> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:52:44 +0200 From: Henk Uijterwaal User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF IPPM WG X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: [ippm] Meeting at IETF 85 X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:53:25 -0000 IPPM Group, We are currently trying to decide if a face-2-face meeting at the next IETF will be necessary. If you have topics that you think could benefit from discussion, then please contact the chairs by Sept 7. Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk(at)uijterwaal.nl http://www.uijterwaal.nl Phone: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Read my blog at http://www.uijterwaal.nl/henks_hands.html From costa@imperial.ac.uk Wed Aug 29 04:04:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7D021F8593 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 04:04:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4cXvsEgWi9AI for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 04:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.cc.ic.ac.uk (smtp2.cc.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.156]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481AA21F8570 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 04:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icexch-h1.ic.ac.uk ([2001:630:12:610::111]) by smtp2.cc.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1T6g1A-00087A-B4 for ippm@ietf.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:01:04 +0100 Received: from icexch-m5.ic.ac.uk ([fe80::84fc:58a5:6f63:c0bf]) by icexch-h1.ic.ac.uk ([fe80::89d7:b737:8af9:634f%10]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:01:00 +0100 From: "Costa, Paolo" To: "ippm@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: CFP: CoNext 2012 Student Workshop Thread-Index: Ac2F1YJdMs2ZiS7oTo6hD1yRxoQiMQ== Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:00:59 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [2001:630:12:10d2:3055:5d8f:f317:f75e] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-IC-MsgID: 1T6g1A-00087A-B4 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 07:27:03 -0700 Subject: [ippm] CFP: CoNext 2012 Student Workshop X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:04:14 -0000 The ACM CoNEXT 2012 Student Workshop aims at providing a platform for gradu= ate students in the area of computer networks to present their ongoing rese= arch efforts. The venue also represents a unique opportunity for students t= o network with other young researchers as well as more experienced ones, re= ceive constructive feedback, guidance, tips, and learn about cutting-edge r= esearch problems being tackled by the community. The workshop will have fea= tured keynote lectures and panels from distinguished researchers in the net= working community. We encourage submissions from graduate students about research at an early = stage and for more advanced dissertation-level research. The submission sho= uld describe the research in 2 pages and indicate whether this is early-sta= ge or dissertation research for potential presentation at the ACM CoNEXT 20= 12 Student Workshop. Research that addresses non-standard topics and contro= versial problems and approaches is of particular interest. The scope of the= workshop is broad and covers all aspects of networking research. Submissions are limited to TWO (2) pages plus references only. Note that t= he two page limit includes ALL figures, tables but does not include referen= ces. Selected abstracts will be published in the ACM CoNEXT 2012 proceedings and= authors will be required to present their work through a poster session. S= tudents may also be given an opportunity to give an "elevator pitch" to pub= licize their posters at the main conference.=20 Important Dates: Abstract submission September 22, 2012 Acceptance notification October 16, 2012 Camera ready October 31, 2012 Workshop date December 10, 2012 Please refer the workshop website for more details: http://conferences.sigcomm.org/co-next/2012/workshops/student Looking forward to your participation in the workshop, Paolo Costa, Imperial College London Wenjun Hu, Microsoft Research, Asia Vyas Sekar, Stony Brook University From Maha.Abdallah@lip6.fr Thu Aug 30 15:33:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB2211E8097 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:33:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.626 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.626 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.325, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, J_CHICKENPOX_27=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2jUZTQDkKO9T for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isis.lip6.fr (isis.lip6.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3302:283c::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D5A11E8091 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from poleia.lip6.fr (mailtwo.desir.lip6.fr [132.227.205.24]) by isis.lip6.fr (8.14.5/lip6) with ESMTP id q7UMXbHd011577 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:33:37 +0200 (CEST) X-pt: isis.lip6.fr Received: by poleia.lip6.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 26E4AC22B0; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:33:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 66.44.49.79 (SquirrelMail authenticated user abdallah) by mailtwo.lip6.fr with HTTP; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:33:32 +0200 Message-ID: <589fd17811184aebb48e1b2c3cbec627.squirrel@mailtwo.lip6.fr> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:33:32 +0200 From: "Maha Abdallah" To: ippm@ietf.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (isis.lip6.fr [132.227.60.2]); Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:33:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 132.227.60.2 Subject: [ippm] NetGames 2012 - DEADLINE EXTENSION & Springer's Multimedia Systems Journal : Special Issue on NetGames X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:33:40 -0000 ************************************************************************* PAPER SUBMISSION DEADLINE EXTENDED TO September 14, 2012 ************************************************************************* Accepted papers in NetGames 2012 will be invited to submit an extended version of their manuscript to the Springer’s Multimedia Systems Journal (MMSJ) - Special Issue on Network and Systems Support for Games http://netgames2012.lip6.fr/MMSJ-SI ************************************************************************* NetGames 2012 CFP The 11th Annual Workshop on Network and Systems Support for Games November 22-23, 2012, Venice, Italy http://netgames2012.lip6.fr/ In co-operation with ACM SIGCOMM/SIGMM Technically sponsored by IEEE Communications Society IMPORTANT DATES ================ Full/Short Paper Submission Deadline: September 14, 2012 (23:59 EDT) Demo Paper Submission Deadline: September 30, 2012 (23:59 EDT) Notification of Decisions: October 14, 2012 Registration/Final Paper Due: October 28, 2012 OVERVIEW ========= The 11th edition of the Annual International Workshop on Network and Systems Support for Games (NetGames 2012) will be held in Venice, Italy, on November 22-23, 2012. As in previous years, NetGames brings together researchers and practitioners from both academia and industry to present the latest research results and challenges of today’s networked games, and to understand their requirements and possibilities in order to enable the next generation of networked games. NetGames will also have industry keynote and panel discussions with leading researchers and practitioners from gaming companies. Submissions are solicited on all aspects of networked games, including (but not limited to): - Scalability, cloud support, client-server, and P2P system architectures - Efficient message distribution and network protocol design - Latency issues and lag compensation techniques - Network traffic modeling, measurement, and impact on network infrastructure - System benchmarking, performance evaluation, and provisioning - Operating system enhancements, service platforms, and middleware - Massively Multiplayer Online Gaming (MMOG) - Multiplayer usability and user behavior studies - Personal communications and conferencing in games - Mobile games, resource-constrained systems, and context-based adaptation - Networks of sensors and actuators, networked haptics - Quality of service, quality of experience, and content adaptation - Dynamic and user-generated content authoring and management - Content creation: non-linear storytelling, object capturing, algorithmic creation - Security, authentication, accounting and digital rights management - Cheat detection and prevention - Social networking in multiplayer games SUBMISSIONS ============ Contributions can be submitted as full papers, posters, or demos: Full paper 6 pages Short paper 2 pages Demo 3 pages Submissions are in PDF and should follow the IEEE conference proceedings format. Full papers will be presented in the single track session, short papers will be presented as posters, while demos require actual demonstration of a working proof-of-concept or prototype. Reviews will be single-blind, authors must include their names and affiliations on the first page. Papers will be judged on their relevance, technical content and correctness, and the clarity of presentation of the research. Papers should not be under review at another venue nor previously published elsewhere. All accepted papers will be archived in the ACM Digital Library and IEEE Xplore, and will published in the workshop proceedings. Submission of a paper for review will be considered your agreement that at least one author will register and attend the workshop if your paper is accepted. Accepted papers in NetGames 2012 will be invited to submit an extended version of their manuscript to the Springer’s Multimedia Systems Journal (MMSJ) - Special Issue on Network and Systems Support for Games. For more details, please visit the journal's special issue web page at: http://netgames2012.lip6.fr/MMSJ-SI Workshop Chairs ================ Maha Abdallah, Pierre and Marie Curie University, France Khaled Boussetta, University of Paris 13, France Local Arrangement Chairs ========================= Claudio Palazzi, Università degli Studi di Padova, Italy Sabina Rossi, Università Ca'Foscari di Venezia, Italy Industry Liaisons Chairs ========================= Dario Maggiorini, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy Laura Anna Ripamonti, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy Technical Program Committee ============================ Grenville Armitage, Swinburne University of Technology, Australia Ernst Biersack, Institute Eurecom, France Surendar Chandra, FXPAL, USA Kuan-Ta Chen, Academia Sinica, Taiwan Mark Claypool, Worcester Polytechnic Institute, USA Wu-chang Feng, Portland State University, USA Chris GautierDickey, University of Denver, USA Steven Gianvecchio, MITRE Corp., USA Carsten Griwodz, Simula Research Laboratory, Norway Pål Halvorsen, University of Oslo/Simula, Norway Shun-Yun Hu, Academia Sinica, Taiwan Alexandru Iosup, Delft University of Technology, The Netherlands Ben Leong, National University of Singapore, Singapore Martin Mauve, University of Dusseldorf, Germany Ketan Mayer-Patel, University of North Carolina at Chapell Hill, USA Richard Mortier, University of Nottingham, UK Timo Ojala, University of Oulu, Finland Wei Tsang Ooi, National University of Singapore, Singapore Marius Preda, TELECOM SudParis, France Shervin Shirmohammadi, University of Ottawa, Canada Gwendal Simon, TELECOM Bretagne, France Jouni Smed, University of Turku, Finland Jeff Yan, University of Newcastle, UK Sebastian Zander, Swinburne University of Technology, Australia Steering Committee =================== Maha Abdallah, Pierre and Marie Curie University, France Grenville Armitage, Swinburne University of Technology, Australia Adrian Cheok, National University of Singapore, Singapore Mark Claypool, Worcester Polytechnic Institute, USA Carsten Griwodz, Simula Research Laboratory, Norway Tristan Henderson, University of St Andrews, UK Sugih Jamin, University of Michigan, USA Shervin Shirmohammadi, University of Ottawa, Canada Lars Wolf, Technische Universität Braunschweig, Germany