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This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF. Title : Yang Data Model for OSPF Protocol Authors : Derek Yeung Yingzhen Qu Jeffrey Zhang Ing-Wher Chen Acee Lindem Filename : draft-ietf-ospf-yang-08.txt Pages : 105 Date : 2017-07-02 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model that can be used to configure and manage OSPF. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-yang/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-yang-08 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ospf-yang-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ospf-yang-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF. Title : Yang Data Model for OSPF SR (Segment Routing) Protocol Authors : Derek Yeung Yingzhen Qu Jeffrey Zhang Ing-Wher Chen Acee Lindem Filename : draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-02.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2017-07-02 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model that can be used to configure and manage OSPF Segment Routing. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149905985522.4910.13981695380634800888@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2017 22:30:55 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 05:30:55 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF. Title : OSPF Link Overload Authors : Shraddha Hegde Pushpasis Sarkar Hannes Gredler Mohan Nanduri Luay Jalil Filename : draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2017-07-02 Abstract: When a link is being prepared to be taken out of service, the traffic needs to be diverted from both ends of the link. Increasing the metric to the highest metric on one side of the link is not sufficient to divert the traffic flowing in the other direction. It is useful for routers in an OSPFv2 or OSPFv3 routing domain to be able to advertise a link being in an overload state to indicate impending maintenance activity on the link. This information can be used by the network devices to re-route the traffic effectively. This document describes the protocol extensions to disseminate link- overload information in OSPFv2 and OSPFv3. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 03 Jul 2017 05:41:19.9068 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN3PR05MB2627 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 05:41:24 -0000 OSPF WG, New version of the ospf-link-overload draft is posted. Editorial comments received so far have been addressed in this version. There was one comments to move the link-overload sub-TLV to LLS in hello me= ssages. Many implementations delegate the Hello processing to linecards/different d= eamons Once adjacency is established. Hello messages are not sent to control plane post adjacency establishment. The link-overload information typically needs= to be processed after adjacency establishment, it introduces unnecessary complexity in hell= o processing. We had a discussion among authors on this and feel advertising link-overloa= d sub-TLV=20 in the LSAs is the most appropriate mechanism. Rgds Shraddha -----Original Message----- From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf= .org Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 11:01 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ospf@ietf.org Subject: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF. Title : OSPF Link Overload Authors : Shraddha Hegde Pushpasis Sarkar Hannes Gredler Mohan Nanduri Luay Jalil Filename : draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2017-07-02 Abstract: When a link is being prepared to be taken out of service, the traffic needs to be diverted from both ends of the link. Increasing the metric to the highest metric on one side of the link is not sufficient to divert the traffic flowing in the other direction. It is useful for routers in an OSPFv2 or OSPFv3 routing domain to be able to advertise a link being in an overload state to indicate impending maintenance activity on the link. This information can be used by the network devices to re-route the traffic effectively. This document describes the protocol extensions to disseminate link- overload information in OSPFv2 and OSPFv3. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ OSPF mailing list OSPF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf From nobody Mon Jul 3 07:52:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietf.org Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E842713165D; Mon, 3 Jul 2017 07:52:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ospf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149909353388.22754.5117060785642160233@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 07:52:13 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-05.txt X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 14:52:14 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF. Title : Advertising Tunneling Capability in OSPF Authors : Xiaohu Xu Bruno Decraene Robert Raszuk Luis M. Contreras Luay Jalil Filename : draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-05.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2017-07-03 Abstract: Networks use tunnels for a variety of reasons. A large variety of tunnel types are defined and the ingress needs to select a type of tunnel which is supported by the egress and itself. This document defines how to advertise egress tunnel capabilities in OSPF Router Information Link State Advertisement (LSAs). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-05 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Les > -----Original Message----- > From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Abhay Roy (akr) > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2017 11:37 AM > To: ospf@ietf.org > Subject: [OSPF] WG adoption poll for draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reus= e >=20 > We would like to kick-off a poll for WG adoption of the following documen= t > (per Authors request): >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse >=20 > Please let us know if you support or have concerns with OSPF WG adopting > this work. >=20 > Regards, > -Abhay >=20 > _______________________________________________ > OSPF mailing list > OSPF@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf From nobody Wed Jul 5 10:30:30 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F709131DA8; Wed, 5 Jul 2017 10:30:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO 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boundary="f403045f214e2b0174055395c98f" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-05.txt X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2017 18:01:18 -0000 --f403045f214e2b0174055395c98f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Acee, Thanks for the update. I'm happy to have the WG & authors resolve these issues. Regards, Alia On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Alia, > > So the issues we are still discussing are: > > 1. Common IGP Tunnel Type/Tunnel Attribute IANA Registry or simply > reference the BGP registries created by RFC 5512. > 2. 1-octet or 2-octet type/length in Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute > Sub-TLVs. I=E2=80=99d vote for 2-octet for RFC 7770 consistency even thou= gh the > BGP registry code point is limited to 255 types. > 3. Addition of the RFC 5640 ECMP block suggested by Carlos > Pignataro. > > Thanks, > Acee > > > On 7/3/17, 10:52 AM, "OSPF on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org" > wrote: > > > > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >directories. > >This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IET= F. > > > > Title : Advertising Tunneling Capability in OSPF > > Authors : Xiaohu Xu > > Bruno Decraene > > Robert Raszuk > > Luis M. Contreras > > Luay Jalil > > Filename : draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-05.txt > > Pages : 10 > > Date : 2017-07-03 > > > >Abstract: > > Networks use tunnels for a variety of reasons. A large variety of > > tunnel types are defined and the ingress needs to select a type of > > tunnel which is supported by the egress and itself. This document > > defines how to advertise egress tunnel capabilities in OSPF Router > > Information Link State Advertisement (LSAs). > > > > > > > >The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap/ > > > >There are also htmlized versions available at: > >https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-05 > >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ospf- > encapsulation-cap-05 > > > >A diff from the previous version is available at: > >https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-05 > > > > > >Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > >submission > >until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >OSPF mailing list > >OSPF@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf > > _______________________________________________ > OSPF mailing list > OSPF@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf > --f403045f214e2b0174055395c98f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Acee,

Thanks for the update.=C2=A0 I= 'm happy to have the WG =C2=A0& authors resolve these issues.
=

Regards,
Alia

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Acee = Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:
Hi Alia,

So the issues we are still discussing are:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1. Common IGP Tunnel Type/Tunnel Attribute IANA Regist= ry or simply
reference the BGP registries created by RFC 5512.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2. 1-octet or 2-octet type/length in Tunnel Encapsulat= ion Attribute
Sub-TLVs. I=E2=80=99d vote for 2-octet for RFC 7770 consistency even though= the
BGP registry code point is limited to 255 types.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3. Addition of the RFC 5640 ECMP block suggested by Ca= rlos
Pignataro.

Thanks,
Acee


On 7/3/17, 10:52 AM, "OSPF on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org"
<ospf-bo= unces@ietf.org on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

>
>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>directories.
>This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IE= TF.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0: Advertising Tunneling Capability in OSPF
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: = Xiaohu Xu
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Bruno Decraene
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Robert Raszuk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Luis M. Contreras
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Luay Jalil
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-= ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-05.txt
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0: 10
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 : 2017-07-03
>
>Abstract:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Networks use tunnels for a variety of reasons.=C2=A0 A lar= ge variety of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0tunnel types are defined and the ingress needs to select a= type of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0tunnel which is supported by the egress and itself.=C2=A0 = This document
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0defines how to advertise egress tunnel capabilities in OSP= F Router
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Information Link State Advertisement (LSAs).
>
>
>
>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap/
>
>There are also htmlized versions available at:
>https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-05
>https://datatracker.ie= tf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-05
>
>A diff from the previous version is available at:
>https://www.ietf.org/rfc= diff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-05
>
>
>Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>submission
>until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >
>Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
>_______________________________________________
>OSPF mailing list
>OSPF@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf
_______________________________________________
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([2607:fb90:662b:f383:9467:c34a:863e:c307]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w85sm65298082pfj.115.2017.07.05.12.31.39 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Jul 2017 12:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-D309B0D9-4D59-4BE5-A3B0-604591C3FE8F Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Jeff Tantsura X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14F89) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 12:31:38 -0700 Cc: Chao Fu , "Balaji Ganesh (balagane)" , OSPF WG List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <07D0BDEA-7DE2-4CA8-B153-B91C420A695B@gmail.com> References: <55cc5c59a333478a8af746881e5ac49a@XCH-ALN-017.cisco.com> To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OSPF] RFC 3101 NSSA/External Route preference clarification X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2017 19:31:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail-D309B0D9-4D59-4BE5-A3B0-604591C3FE8F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I find Acee's proposal reasonable and support it "as is". Regards, Jeff > On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:36, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: >=20 > Hi Chao,=20 >=20 > I think rules (e) 1 and (e) 2 should remain to handle the case of an NSSA t= hat receives both the intra-NSSA LSA and a translated AS External LSA (via a= backbone path). I only think that rule (e) 3 needs to be relaxed. If we wer= e doing another NSSA BIS, I=92d remove it completely but since we are just t= alking about an Errata, I think we should just make the Router ID tie-breake= r optional.=20 >=20 > Thanks, > Acee=20 >=20 > From: Chao Fu > Date: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 3:02 AM > To: "Balaji Ganesh (balagane)" , OSPF WG List , Acee Lindem > Subject: RE: [OSPF] RFC 3101 NSSA/External Route preference clarification >=20 > Hi all, > =20 > In my opinion rule (e) should be removed. ( https://mailarchive.ietf.org/a= rch/search/?email_list=3Dospf&q=3D%5BTechnical+Errata+Reported%5D+RFC3101 ).= > If not, it should be clarified more including removing =932. A Type-5 LSA.= =94 > =20 > Regards, > Chao Fu > =20 > From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Balaji Ganesh (bala= gane) > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 14:01 > To: OSPF WG List ; Acee Lindem (acee) > Subject: Re: [OSPF] RFC 3101 NSSA/External Route preference clarification > =20 > Hi all, > =20 > Any views/comments on the below? > =20 > Regards, > Balaji > =20 > From: Acee Lindem (acee)=20 > Sent: 19 June 2017 00:08 > To: Balaji Ganesh (balagane) ; OSPF WG List > Subject: Re: [OSPF] RFC 3101 NSSA/External Route preference clarification > =20 > Hi =96 I encouraged Balaji to post to the list is that I think many imple= mentations have ignored #3. I know that I changed the IBM implementation to c= ompute ECMP routes to multiple ASBRs and had the Redback implementation do t= his from the start. Consequently, we=92d like to solicit input as to what ot= her implementations do. If we can reach consensus on this, we could issue an= Errata to make this optional.=20 > =20 > Thanks, > Acee=20 > =20 > From: OSPF on behalf of "Balaji Ganesh (balagane)"= > Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 4:13 AM > To: OSPF WG List > Subject: [OSPF] RFC 3101 NSSA/External Route preference clarification > =20 > Hi all, > =20 > When the metrics are same, RFC 3101 specifies the preference for NSSA/Exte= rnal routes as follows. > In the section 2.5 Calculating Type-7 AS External Routes - 2.5.6.(e), it s= ays.. > =20 > (e) If the current LSA is functionally the same as an > installed LSA (i.e., same destination, cost and non-zero > forwarding address) then apply the following priorities in > deciding which LSA is preferred: > =20 > 1. A Type-7 LSA with the P-bit set. > =20 > 2. A Type-5 LSA. > =20 > 3. The LSA with the higher router ID. =20 > =20 > =20 > Points 1 and 2 are clear.. > =20 > However Point 3 specifies preference of an LSA with a higher router ID. Wh= y is it so? > =20 > Should we not install ECMP paths in this case? > Is point 3 actually intended for NSSA translators to prefer a Type 7 LSA w= hich needs to be used for translation to Type 5? > =20 > Considering the above 2 points, I guess point 3 needs to be modified in th= e RFC to probably say.. > =20 > 3. Preference is same, install ECMP paths. > Additionally if the router is an NSSA translator, p= refer the LSA with higher router ID for Type 7-Type 5 translation.=20 > =20 > Please let know any views/comments on the same. > =20 > Regards, > Balaji > =20 > _______________________________________________ > OSPF mailing list > OSPF@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf --Apple-Mail-D309B0D9-4D59-4BE5-A3B0-604591C3FE8F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I find Acee's proposal reasonable= and support it "as is".

Regards,
Jeff

On Jul= 5, 2017, at 10:36, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Chao, 

I think rules (e) 1 and (e) 2 should remain to handle the case of an NS= SA that receives both the intra-NSSA LSA and a translated AS External LSA (v= ia a backbone path). I only think that rule (e) 3 needs to be relaxed. If we= were doing another NSSA BIS, I=E2=80=99d remove it completely but since we are just talking about an Err= ata, I think we should just make the Router ID tie-breaker optional. 

Thanks,
Acee 

From: Chao Fu <chao.fu@ericsson.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 3:0= 2 AM
To: "Balaji Ganesh (balagane)" <<= a href=3D"mailto:balagane@cisco.com">balagane@cisco.com>, OSPF WG Lis= t <ospf@ietf.org>, Acee Lindem &l= t;acee@cisco.com>
Subject: RE: [OSPF] RFC 3101 NSSA/Ex= ternal Route preference clarification

Hi all,

 = ;

In my opin= ion rule (e) should be removed. ( https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=3Dospf&q=3D%5BTechn= ical+Errata+Reported%5D+RFC3101 ).

If not, it= should be clarified more including removing =E2=80=9C2. A Type-5 LSA.=E2=80=9D

 = ;

Regards,

Chao Fu

 = ;

From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Balaji Ganesh (balagane)
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 14:01
To: OSPF WG List <ospf@ietf.org>; Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.= com>
Subject: Re: [OSPF] RFC 3101 NSSA/External Route preference clarifica= tion

 

Hi all,<= o:p>

&nb= sp;

Any view= s/comments on the below?

&nb= sp;

Regards,=

Balaji

&nb= sp;

From: Acee Lindem (acee)
Sent: 19 June 2017 00:08
To: Balaji Ganesh (balagane) <balagane@cisco.com>; OSPF WG List <ospf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [OSPF] RFC 3101 NSSA/External Route preference clarifica= tion

 

Hi =E2=80=93  I encouraged Balaji to post to the list is that I t= hink many implementations have ignored #3. I know that I changed the IBM imp= lementation to compute ECMP routes to multiple ASBRs and had the Redback implementation do this from the start. Consequent= ly, we=E2=80=99d like to solicit input as to what other implementations do. I= f we can reach consensus on this, we could issue an Errata to make this opti= onal. 

 

Thanks,

Acee 

 

From: <= /span>OSPF <ospf-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of "Balaj= i Ganesh (balagane)" <balagane@cisc= o.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 4:13 AM
To: OSPF WG List <ospf@ietf.org>
Subject: [OSPF] RFC 3101 NSSA/External Route preference clarification=

 

Hi all,

 

When the m= etrics are same, RFC 3101 specifies the preference for NSSA/External routes a= s follows.

In the section 2.5 Calculating Type-7 AS External Routes - 2.5= .6.(e), it says..

 

 =          (e) If the current LSA is f= unctionally the same as an=

 =              ins= talled LSA (i.e., same destination, cost and non-zero

 =              for= warding address) then apply the following priorities in

 =              dec= iding which LSA is preferred:

 =

 =             &nbs= p;   1. A Type-7 LSA with the P-bit set.

 =

 =             &nbs= p;   2. A Type-5 LSA.

 =

 =             &nbs= p;   3. The LSA with the higher router ID.  

 =

 =

Points 1 a= nd 2 are clear..

 

However Po= int 3 specifies preference of an LSA with a higher router ID. Why is it so?<= o:p>

 

  • Should we not install ECMP paths in this case?
  • Is point 3 actually intended for NSSA translators to pr= efer a Type 7 LSA which needs to be used for translation to Type 5?

 

Considerin= g the above 2 points, I guess point 3 needs to be modified in the RFC to pro= bably say..

 

 =             &nbs= p;      3. Preference is same, install ECMP pa= ths.

=

 =             &nbs= p;         Additionally if the route= r is an NSSA translator, prefer the LSA with higher router ID for Type 7-Typ= e 5 translation. 

 

Please let= know any views/comments on the same.

 

Regards,

Balaji

 
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Please fi= nd below some more that were probably missed or not taken care of.=20 1) I see that the use of link-local scope RI LSA has still been retained in= this version and not sure why. RI LSA is for node attributes and it's use = for signalling of link is not right IMO. Why not use the link-local scope E= xtended Link LSA instead? 2) Sec 5.1, why is advertising of MAX-METRIC for the link to be overloaded = a SHOULD and not a MUST? Isn't this mandatory to ensure backward compatibil= ity? What if the router on which overload is signalled does not do MAX-METR= IC but the implementation on the remote side end up doing MAX-METRIC. Would= it not result in asymmetric metric in a un-intended manner? Please conside= r changing all SHOULD here to MUST to ensure backward compatibility. 3) Sec 5.4, can you please make similar change in language related to the R= FC4203 reference as you've done in other parts in this version? Also I don't agree with the rationale you've given for not using LLS for th= e link-local signalling. Even if the hello processing were delegated to the= LC, there are already a lot of protocol events which can happen via hello = packets (which includes LLS) that require signalling update to the control = plane OSPF main process. An implementation aspect such as this should hardl= y be a good reason to not use LLS for link-local signalling such as overloa= d. Thanks, Ketan -----Original Message----- From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Shraddha Hegde Sent: 03 July 2017 11:11 To: internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ospf@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt OSPF WG, New version of the ospf-link-overload draft is posted. Editorial comments received so far have been addressed in this version. There was one comments to move the link-overload sub-TLV to LLS in hello me= ssages. Many implementations delegate the Hello processing to linecards/different d= eamons Once adjacency is established. Hello messages are not sent to control plane post adjacency establishment. The link-overload information typically needs= to be processed after adjacency establishment, it introduces unnecessary complexity in hell= o processing. We had a discussion among authors on this and feel advertising link-overloa= d sub-TLV=20 in the LSAs is the most appropriate mechanism. Rgds Shraddha -----Original Message----- From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf= .org Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 11:01 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ospf@ietf.org Subject: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF. Title : OSPF Link Overload Authors : Shraddha Hegde Pushpasis Sarkar Hannes Gredler Mohan Nanduri Luay Jalil Filename : draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2017-07-02 Abstract: When a link is being prepared to be taken out of service, the traffic needs to be diverted from both ends of the link. Increasing the metric to the highest metric on one side of the link is not sufficient to divert the traffic flowing in the other direction. It is useful for routers in an OSPFv2 or OSPFv3 routing domain to be able to advertise a link being in an overload state to indicate impending maintenance activity on the link. This information can be used by the network devices to re-route the traffic effectively. This document describes the protocol extensions to disseminate link- overload information in OSPFv2 and OSPFv3. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ OSPF mailing list OSPF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf _______________________________________________ OSPF mailing list OSPF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf From nobody Thu Jul 6 00:30:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E731315EE for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2017 00:30:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.503 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.503 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id avWSZxPmZfSy for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2017 00:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-2.cisco.com (aer-iport-2.cisco.com [173.38.203.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1898C12F28B for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2017 00:30:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5529; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1499326218; x=1500535818; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2JXoROEbSSwvIk8f9yHqnt6IEzh+1kvXHimNKGTxRII=; b=gG9hVCfn2qvbQUL7ZXON3Gv3PHUVPKUI6zvTs+egXgaGkhQTsR8WUMaG aBt01AsPjQrHNc7Smg/tHfVsbv1DjcgYLM5R9LVKmuzUJKUjYDtyZy3RV b4W4GOsHwgHVArN0naqxPQQqXAh/xNMjIZFg6232NrLkke0tNLLO7vXMB A=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.40,316,1496102400"; d="scan'208";a="653061588" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-3.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 06 Jul 2017 07:30:16 +0000 Received: from [10.60.140.51] (ams-ppsenak-nitro2.cisco.com [10.60.140.51]) by aer-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v667UFhX026022; Thu, 6 Jul 2017 07:30:16 GMT Message-ID: <595DE709.6020005@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2017 09:30:17 +0200 From: Peter Psenak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)" , Shraddha Hegde CC: "ospf@ietf.org" References: <149905985522.4910.13981695380634800888@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2017 07:30:20 -0000 On 06/07/17 05:50 , Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) wrote: > Hi Shraddha, > > Thanks for taking care of some of the comments shared previously. Please find below some more that were probably missed or not taken care of. > > 1) I see that the use of link-local scope RI LSA has still been retained in this version and not sure why. RI LSA is for node attributes and it's use for signalling of link is not right IMO. Why not use the link-local scope Extended Link LSA instead? an alternative would be to always flood area scope Extended Link LSA. It should not harm anything and could be used by other routers in area as a "heads-up" that remote link is becoming overloaded. > > 2) Sec 5.1, why is advertising of MAX-METRIC for the link to be overloaded a SHOULD and not a MUST? Isn't this mandatory to ensure backward compatibility? What if the router on which overload is signalled does not do MAX-METRIC but the implementation on the remote side end up doing MAX-METRIC. Would it not result in asymmetric metric in a un-intended manner? Please consider changing all SHOULD here to MUST to ensure backward compatibility. > > 3) Sec 5.4, can you please make similar change in language related to the RFC4203 reference as you've done in other parts in this version? > > Also I don't agree with the rationale you've given for not using LLS for the link-local signalling. Even if the hello processing were delegated to the LC, there are already a lot of protocol events which can happen via hello packets (which includes LLS) that require signalling update to the control plane OSPF main process. An implementation aspect such as this should hardly be a good reason to not use LLS for link-local signalling such as overload. +1 on the above. thanks, Peter > > Thanks, > Ketan > > -----Original Message----- > From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Shraddha Hegde > Sent: 03 July 2017 11:11 > To: internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: ospf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt > > OSPF WG, > > New version of the ospf-link-overload draft is posted. > Editorial comments received so far have been addressed in this version. > > There was one comments to move the link-overload sub-TLV to LLS in hello messages. > Many implementations delegate the Hello processing to linecards/different deamons > Once adjacency is established. Hello messages are not sent to control plane > post adjacency establishment. The link-overload information typically needs to be processed > after adjacency establishment, it introduces unnecessary complexity in hello processing. > We had a discussion among authors on this and feel advertising link-overload sub-TLV > in the LSAs is the most appropriate mechanism. > > > > Rgds > Shraddha > > -----Original Message----- > From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 11:01 AM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: ospf@ietf.org > Subject: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF. > > Title : OSPF Link Overload > Authors : Shraddha Hegde > Pushpasis Sarkar > Hannes Gredler > Mohan Nanduri > Luay Jalil > Filename : draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt > Pages : 14 > Date : 2017-07-02 > > Abstract: > When a link is being prepared to be taken out of service, the traffic > needs to be diverted from both ends of the link. Increasing the > metric to the highest metric on one side of the link is not > sufficient to divert the traffic flowing in the other direction. > > It is useful for routers in an OSPFv2 or OSPFv3 routing domain to be > able to advertise a link being in an overload state to indicate > impending maintenance activity on the link. This information can be > used by the network devices to re-route the traffic effectively. > > This document describes the protocol extensions to disseminate link- > overload information in OSPFv2 and OSPFv3. > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > OSPF mailing list > OSPF@ietf.org > 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Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.21.0.170409 Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2017 11:26:59 -0700 From: Jeff Tantsura To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" , "Abhay Roy (akr)" , "ospf@ietf.org" Message-ID: <8375EBBF-F835-4916-9166-D22DBA4C66F8@gmail.com> Thread-Topic: [OSPF] WG adoption poll for draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse References: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OSPF] WG adoption poll for draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2017 18:27:06 -0000 +10 to Acee=E2=80=99s comments OSPF community would greatly benefit from the draft being adopted and imple= mented (stated as co-author) =20 Cheers, Jeff On 7/7/17, 10:22, "OSPF on behalf of Acee Lindem (acee)" wrote: OSPF Evolution and the role of draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse =20 The document draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse-05.txt not-only provides flexible and compact mechanisms and encodings for advertising link attributes for single or multiple applications. It is also part of the wider goal of transforming OSPF to a TLV-based protocol that is eve= ry bit as extendable as the other IGPs while affording the distinct advant= age of optimally partitioning the advertised information into multiple LSAs= of different types.=20 =20 This draft represents the last piece of our vision to achieve this outcome. For OSPFv2, we have the base LSAs that cannot be extended in a backward compatible fashion. Additionally, we have RFC 7770 (OSPF Route= r Information Advertisement) and RFC 7684 (OSPF Prefix/Link Attributes). = The former has been extended to support distribution of non-OSPF informatio= n in addition to OSPF Router-level protocol information. The extended OSP= F Prefix/Link LSAs are being used to support segment routing and other technologies. They are now part of the OSPF base and will be advertised= in many OSPF domains. The major implementations have the capability to correlate the base LSAs and the OSPF Prefix/Link LSAs for segment routi= ng. This correlation requires handling lots of chicken and egg complexities that have all been overcome. =20 It has been suggested that since the OSPF TE LSAs (RFC 3630) contain so= me generally useful link attributes, this be the only means by which this information is advertised in OSPF routing domains. This will be both unwieldy and inefficient due to the advertisement, processing, and stor= age of the TE LSAs in networks not utilizing RSVP-based TE. There is also = the added complexity with this approach as you have not only the chicken an= d the egg, but the chicken, egg, and the rooster to correlate. =20 For OSPFv3 and OSPFv3 Extended LSAs (draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-lsa-extend-14.txt), we have made the difficult choice to extend the base RFC 5340 LSAs (OSPF for IPv6) in a non-compatible fashion. After an initial delay, we have implementations= of the OSPFv3 Extended LSAs draft and will soon be advancing it. With the OSPFv3 extended LSAs, we are finally at the point where all the information (other than RSVP TE information) for a given prefix or link= is advertised in a single LSA rather than multiple LSAs. Would those who argue for making OSPFv2 TE LSAs generally applicable also want to requi= re the advertisement of RFC 5329 (OSPFv3 Traffic Engineering) LSAs? If so= , we would miss a tremendous opportunity. =20 =20 Thanks, Acee =20 On 7/6/17, 6:10 PM, "OSPF on behalf of Acee Lindem (acee)" wrote: =20 >Support as co-author. More to come=E2=80=A6 >Acee=20 > >On 7/3/17, 2:37 PM, "OSPF on behalf of Abhay Roy (akr)" > wrote: > >>We would like to kick-off a poll for WG adoption of the following >>document (per Authors request): >> >>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reus= e >> >>Please let us know if you support or have concerns with OSPF WG adopt= ing >>this work. >> >>Regards, >>-Abhay >> >>_______________________________________________ >>OSPF mailing list >>OSPF@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf > >_______________________________________________ >OSPF mailing list >OSPF@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf =20 _______________________________________________ OSPF mailing list OSPF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf =20 From nobody Fri Jul 7 11:33:24 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175D6131543 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2017 11:33:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.398 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.398 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HWI-SwVSiLmW for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2017 11:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x22d.google.com (mail-it0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23EC0128DE5 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2017 11:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id v202so4737093itb.1 for ; Fri, 07 Jul 2017 11:33:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=zRlj7cvTi8oc3EdtEsI4IyAzM2EOL8EBejyxGwixrBA=; b=JRX+7TaHLRZWw5UdJxo4HcbYyhR1g0f8IxsYKaaE6P2pZr24d5FpYO6wwwB9EmQDha LpN0vG0z4XgoJiBmJfOajXIHJqQ1bbkDy8Tn/1ZFdsrn+ub0Iql6qildA80dhNL7GOKt eUmzIpPBPXQ+qTcFXDGPn1Gtpzwc6WpUYAmE+VzHcGMwjVou2DEaO1zjZ1oXNfT+t5np RfR1ZnW4Rg64lMPk3A4EmQb2rPnlokg/ZX5dt3UAIzNJDl6HqCfA9ftK1KC8xfpI9csn I7dt0BzGCXAvk67euF+OXWi5gXSg64aXnrxqNklbiWjB7bxRYW7xxxgcbi51HlvByU6s CAMw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=zRlj7cvTi8oc3EdtEsI4IyAzM2EOL8EBejyxGwixrBA=; b=qF3mc3GeIch7mvvBVQTu9GpAxKk0jWfmQoS05JArm5L+uVMGrRyt+jAhRjM71rQhzT D0od4WU6UNUOBK0uqGuoOzaddSWMw/S4P8fAhmhHFS+s3cJ+it9/v4xVpPh/7mIGbJe6 fRM3KZuXZcT3cv+HbyFGBeF1NNkbyznjPxW5zJ1BQXMTJJ840lDfv2U2XfNYDDAVGp/D SSwhpTwiC3A2s8VYKzXw0bL4MEirkSD17fWHxtfactP7qH/C55bsyXPYCQS1DUCAF+cD A4rKurGjkUar39dy2FuUDAX40O1GEGtd2uNO4nlSC5y0LboHOlDVqOOOl99NYNBt16Ot g8DQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw110s/8LVKBfLtr39EkAMe3EjtKBt1S8xLmTjhnrEz7wG3IOuPXWW 0ewgLG/j31j6Alakcr5cuEzobNcTIA== X-Received: by 10.36.243.1 with SMTP id t1mr340552ith.34.1499452400362; Fri, 07 Jul 2017 11:33:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rraszuk@gmail.com Received: by 10.79.32.15 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jul 2017 11:33:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Robert Raszuk Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 20:33:19 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CjeHmkaYRLj-fdNqsHVsq2LDwSI Message-ID: To: Abhay Roy Cc: OSPF List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045fc35cae702f0553be776c" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OSPF] WG adoption poll for draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2017 18:33:23 -0000 --f403045fc35cae702f0553be776c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I support adoption of this proposal. Thx, Robert. On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Abhay Roy wrote: > We would like to kick-off a poll for WG adoption of the following document > (per Authors request): > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse > > Please let us know if you support or have concerns with OSPF WG adopting > this work. > > Regards, > -Abhay > > _______________________________________________ > OSPF mailing list > OSPF@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf > --f403045fc35cae702f0553be776c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I support adoption of this proposal.=C2= =A0

Thx,
Robert.

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Abhay Roy &l= t;akr@cisco.com><= /span> wrote:
We would like to kick-off a= poll for WG adoption of the following document (per Authors request):

https://datatracker.ietf.org/d= oc/draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse

Please let us know if you support or have concerns with OSPF WG adopting th= is work.

Regards,
-Abhay

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OSPF] WG adoption poll for draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2017 23:16:10 -0000 +1 Support adoption of this work. Technical detail looks good. Suggestion: This doc reads a bit like a suspense novel where you only understand in the 4th act why this should be a standard and what its scope is. Would suggest to make abstract/intro more crisp wrt the salient points: 1. There is ongoing work and DEMAND to build non-TE apps using the same attributes as invented by TE 2. Multiple applications will need the same attributes but with different values. 3. This doc reviews attributes, use-cases & options and STANDARDIZES that multi-application encoding 4. Standardized processing for these attributes outside TE is subject to ongoing/future work. Would also suggest considering putting "Multi-Application (encoding or reuse)" into the title Cheers Toerless On 7/7/17, 10:22, "OSPF on behalf of Acee Lindem (acee)" wrote: OSPF Evolution and the role of draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse The document draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse-05.txt not-only provides flexible and compact mechanisms and encodings for advertising link attributes for single or multiple applications. It is also part of the wider goal of transforming OSPF to a TLV-based protocol that is every bit as extendable as the other IGPs while affording the distinct advantage of optimally partitioning the advertised information into multiple LSAs of different types. This draft represents the last piece of our vision to achieve this outcome. For OSPFv2, we have the base LSAs that cannot be extended in a backward compatible fashion. Additionally, we have RFC 7770 (OSPF Router Information Advertisement) and RFC 7684 (OSPF Prefix/Link Attributes). The former has been extended to support distribution of non-OSPF information in addition to OSPF Router-level protocol information. The extended OSPF Prefix/Link LSAs are being used to support segment routing and other technologies. They are now part of the OSPF base and will be advertised in many OSPF domains. The major implementations have the capability to correlate the base LSAs and the OSPF Prefix/Link LSAs for segment routing. This correlation requires handling lots of chicken and egg complexities that have all been overcome. It has been suggested that since the OSPF TE LSAs (RFC 3630) contain some generally useful link attributes, this be the only means by which this information is advertised in OSPF routing domains. This will be both unwieldy and inefficient due to the advertisement, processing, and storage of the TE LSAs in networks not utilizing RSVP-based TE. There is also the added complexity with this approach as you have not only the chicken and the egg, but the chicken, egg, and the rooster to correlate. For OSPFv3 and OSPFv3 Extended LSAs (draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-lsa-extend-14.txt), we have made the difficult choice to extend the base RFC 5340 LSAs (OSPF for IPv6) in a non-compatible fashion. After an initial delay, we have implementations of the OSPFv3 Extended LSAs draft and will soon be advancing it. With the OSPFv3 extended LSAs, we are finally at the point where all the information (other than RSVP TE information) for a given prefix or link is advertised in a single LSA rather than multiple LSAs. Would those who argue for making OSPFv2 TE LSAs generally applicable also want to require the advertisement of RFC 5329 (OSPFv3 Traffic Engineering) LSAs? If so, we would miss a tremendous opportunity. Thanks, Acee On 7/6/17, 6:10 PM, "OSPF on behalf of Acee Lindem (acee)" wrote: >Support as co-author. More to come??? >Acee > >On 7/3/17, 2:37 PM, "OSPF on behalf of Abhay Roy (akr)" > wrote: > >>We would like to kick-off a poll for WG adoption of the following >>document (per Authors request): >> >>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse >> >>Please let us know if you support or have concerns with OSPF WG adopting >>this work. >> >>Regards, >>-Abhay >> >>_______________________________________________ >>OSPF mailing list >>OSPF@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf > >_______________________________________________ >OSPF mailing list >OSPF@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf _______________________________________________ OSPF mailing list OSPF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf _______________________________________________ OSPF mailing list OSPF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf From nobody Sun Jul 9 18:44:43 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 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Support.

 

-Qin

Support as co-author.
 
thanks,
Peter
 
On 03/07/17 20:37 , Abhay Roy wrote:
We would like to kick-off a poll for WG adoption =
of the following
document (per Authors request):=

 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pp=
senak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse
 
Please let us know if you support or have concern=
s with OSPF WG adopting
this work.
 
Regards,
-Abhay
 
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07:04:14 -0000 Hi Shraddha, thanks for your comments. I believe all of them can be addressed by editorial changes and I'll be more then happy to work with you on those. More importantly, it looks to me you are not objecting the problem statement and the direction that the draft is taking to address it. Is my understanding correct? thanks, Peter On 17/07/17 06:31 , Shraddha Hegde wrote: > OSPF WG, > > There has been a long debate on this draft, probably the most discussed in > OSPF WG. The major contention point with this draft has been around > > 1. Definition of TE and Non-TE applications. > The draft still uses the terminology of TE and non-TE applications without defining > the meaning of what is considered TE and what is non-TE. > 2. There are implementations that make use of TE LSAs for the purpose of implementing > [I-D.ietf-rtgwg-lfa-manageability] and > [I-D.psarkar-rtgwg-rlfa-node-protection]. Normative language is required to make sure > application such as RSVP and LFA do not suddenly become invalid because one vendor chooses to > implement this draft and stops advertising link attributes in TE LSAs. > > The backward compatibility section specifies > "When an OSPF routing domain includes routers using link attributes > from TE Opaque LSAs for Non-RSVP TE applications such as LFA, OSPF > routers in that domain should continue to advertise such TE Opaque > LSAs." > > In order to make sure operators do not end up seeing inter-op issues due to > different vendors implementing the draft at different times a normative > language such as below MUST be used. > > "Routers in the OSPF Domain MUST continue to advertise TE Opaque LSAs, when there are > applications that make use of TE Opaque LSAs.In the interest of backward compatibility, > implementations MUST implement appropriate knobs to facilitate advertisement of link attributes in > TE LSAs. Implementations MUST also support processing link attributes advertised in TE-LSAs. A separate IETF draft > MAY be wriiten in future when the deployments are mature enough to move completely to the advertisements > defined in this draft" > > > 3. The encodings for the recent addition "Application Specific Values" has scope for improvement. Having seperate > Masks for standard and user defined applications does not seem necessary. > > 4. Acee's reference to different OSPF LSAs and comparing them to Chicken, egg and the > Rooster describes the problem aptly in one sentence. > Chicken and egg problem is age old in OSPF and all implementations have handled it very well. > > Handling rooster wouldn't have been as difficult but with this draft, chicken, egg and the rooster have moved from > vendor's backyard to operator's front yard. > Operator's have to co-ordinate which vendor advertises what attributes in which LSA and which node/link > in the network should have which knobs turned on. > > Deployment consideration section needs to consider various cases of upgrade process. > There is definitely need for text describing how the advertisements would look like if RSVP, LFA-manageability > and SR-TE are deployed together. > > > These comments on the draft are an effort to make sure existing IETF standardized applications > would not break when new enhancements are introduced. > > > Rgds > Shraddha > > -----Original Message----- > From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Xuxiaohu > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 3:20 PM > To: Abhay Roy ; ospf@ietf.org > Subject: [OSPF] : WG adoption poll for draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse > > I have read this draft and support the WG adoption. > > Xiaohu > >> -----ʼԭ----- >> : OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] Abhay Roy >> ʱ: 201774 2:37 >> ռ: ospf@ietf.org >> : [OSPF] WG adoption poll for draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse >> >> We would like to kick-off a poll for WG adoption of the following >> document (per Authors request): >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse >> >> Please let us know if you support or have concerns with OSPF WG >> adopting this work. >> >> Regards, >> -Abhay >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSPF mailing list >> OSPF@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf > _______________________________________________ > OSPF mailing list > OSPF@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf > _______________________________________________ > OSPF mailing list > OSPF@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf > From nobody Mon Jul 17 00:42:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietf.org Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75C5131A6E; Mon, 17 Jul 2017 00:42:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ospf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.56.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150027732184.32725.14093236021172561696@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 00:42:01 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-06.txt X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 07:42:02 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF. Title : Advertising Tunneling Capability in OSPF Authors : Xiaohu Xu Bruno Decraene Robert Raszuk Luis M. Contreras Luay Jalil Filename : draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-06.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2017-07-17 Abstract: Networks use tunnels for a variety of reasons. A large variety of tunnel types are defined and the ingress needs to select a type of tunnel which is supported by the egress and itself. This document defines how to advertise egress tunnel capabilities in OSPF Router Information Link State Advertisement (LSAs). 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11:03:12 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF. Title : OSPF Extensions for Segment Routing Authors : Peter Psenak Stefano Previdi Clarence Filsfils Hannes Gredler Rob Shakir Wim Henderickx Jeff Tantsura Filename : draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-18.txt Pages : 28 Date : 2017-07-18 Abstract: Segment Routing (SR) allows a flexible definition of end-to-end paths within IGP topologies by encoding paths as sequences of topological sub-paths, called "segments". These segments are advertised by the link-state routing protocols (IS-IS and OSPF). This draft describes the OSPF extensions required for Segment Routing. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-18 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-18 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-18 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Jul 19 01:03:35 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6AE13167A; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:03:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p6rSP047geIo; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm0-x22f.google.com (mail-wm0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E7C0131600; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id g127so7411194wmd.0; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:03:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=p7thIIcylY+sgHwst0sxuSiLpbmb6JTPQQrFSEPgs5I=; b=mIexGnjc/ZE22TXMrM/on+NCe1O8JzS6kYeGFUFKsFXafvw73LK1ega/PlSTsbel+6 48/XTy9xXs28PbX2ySSLT240UGlK/qpCSOtTohiiZkwgfCpDyGtYXrHihWy1yOm2wMZL smczXYG/3D5rU+JofscvA2OA4gLLWdyiQcNv7oi0Lyo8d0RYIdv0mrg4r8Ick5NQRadM Q7PGUrVWN3tOqXsu08FHhBCaC4zx3aU5JsJuYaY+By8GsiIJSXKzOeHhIUTcl5l6GX0a SRTjm0lpokNHRi/bgWwpbIdoyC5M9NCbPS3B9cen0bM2IUcpEcYHNenuSV0szxTeJUMu qeVw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=p7thIIcylY+sgHwst0sxuSiLpbmb6JTPQQrFSEPgs5I=; b=iaNcNrj6A2oxqgvWHEor2bnRfg2PMuAahJPNkc1OUTck+s9XmBkKzjUGHrXlaahp3t wq7jwzds0oBL0pAKoEL6iDOaQd83iG2j9ZRSMt8kHm0m6Pcc85pWVDtTmf0Pvf8odqcB m1h3sblrDNb1PO+bsGh+rApK7dd+1mc1FP5dygSwZdeu8J6e4/iMkCdxY4V9aHMEmJfL 2Q80iYiyigt2C0yFg9yIEE2wjnZ4gkADWAjldaVofepqVnxDu41JDwCNCwxFWf0wlDDn zUWBs3f12Nxd1CljGGaTRhIc/1ME1YIz/scHcjhIcLW5jLAbksFcVkYSQraCvcDa6fnr /uBw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw111C+nVhVLbEzRh9IWhlGjp/MOWC9tCN/gIYRX9sOF94WUE92QTr oEOotO6h2e2pnck5yQYtGEffCdb/+bZG X-Received: by 10.28.216.21 with SMTP id p21mr3956912wmg.24.1500451410511; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:03:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.183.1 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:03:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Alia Atlas Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 04:03:30 -0400 Message-ID: To: "isis-wg@ietf.org" , OSPF List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11469ecc538cf80554a7117e" Archived-At: Subject: [OSPF] merging OSPF & ISIS WGs & mailing lists X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 08:03:33 -0000 --001a11469ecc538cf80554a7117e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" As discussed in the ISIS and OSPF, we are going to be experimenting for the next 4 months (through the next IETF at least) with what it would feel like to have a merged WG for OSPF and IS-IS. This is driven by the goals of having conversations in one place for the various extensions that are happening in OSPFv3, IS-IS, and OSPF and by the goal of having a slightly larger WG and encourage cross-protocol learning and discussion. At IETF 100, OSPF and IS-IS will be having a truly joint meeting. Between now and then, we will be having the equivalent of a joint mailing list. After discussion with the Secretariat, this is most easily done by: 1) Storing the current subscription list for each of the OSPF WG and ISIS WG. 2) Subscribe all subscribers of each mailing list to the other and vice versa. I will ask the Secretariat to do this tomorrow (Thursday) morning (Prague time). One outcome of this experiment is that the IS-IS and OSPF WGs will be merged together afterwards. If you have thoughts on key aspects for the charter, please do share them. Such a charter would be likely around link-state IGPs - and will need a new name. Please share your suggestions for possible names privately. Regards, Alia --001a11469ecc538cf80554a7117e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As discussed in the ISIS and OSPF, we are going to be expe= rimenting for the next 4 months (through the next IETF at least) with what = it would feel like to have a merged WG for OSPF and IS-IS.=C2=A0 This is dr= iven by the goals of having conversations in one place for the various exte= nsions that are happening in OSPFv3, IS-IS, and OSPF and by the goal of hav= ing a slightly larger WG and encourage cross-protocol learning and discussi= on.

At IETF 100, OSPF and IS-IS will be having a truly j= oint meeting.=C2=A0 Between now and then, we will be having the equivalent = of a joint mailing list.=C2=A0 After discussion with the Secretariat, this = is most easily done by:
=C2=A0 =C2=A01) Storing the current subsc= ription list for each of the OSPF WG and ISIS WG.
=C2=A0 =C2=A02)= Subscribe all subscribers of each mailing list to the other and vice versa= .

I will ask the Secretariat to do this tomorrow = =C2=A0(Thursday) morning (Prague time).

One outcom= e of this experiment is that the IS-IS and OSPF WGs will be merged together= afterwards.=C2=A0 If you have thoughts on key aspects for the charter, ple= ase do share them.=C2=A0 Such a charter would be likely around link-state I= GPs - and will need a new name.=C2=A0 Please share your suggestions for pos= sible names privately.

Regards,
Alia
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I track NETCONF/NETMOD lists and they are a nightmare because there are periods of substantial overlap and the e-mails come with a mixture of [Netconf] [netmod] [Netconf][netmod] [netmod][Netconf] which renders collation impossible (on any MUA I know). Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alia Atlas" To: ; "OSPF List" Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 9:03 AM > As discussed in the ISIS and OSPF, we are going to be experimenting for the > next 4 months (through the next IETF at least) with what it would feel like > to have a merged WG for OSPF and IS-IS. This is driven by the goals of > having conversations in one place for the various extensions that are > happening in OSPFv3, IS-IS, and OSPF and by the goal of having a slightly > larger WG and encourage cross-protocol learning and discussion. > > At IETF 100, OSPF and IS-IS will be having a truly joint meeting. Between > now and then, we will be having the equivalent of a joint mailing list. > After discussion with the Secretariat, this is most easily done by: > 1) Storing the current subscription list for each of the OSPF WG and > ISIS WG. > 2) Subscribe all subscribers of each mailing list to the other and vice > versa. > > I will ask the Secretariat to do this tomorrow (Thursday) morning (Prague > time). > > One outcome of this experiment is that the IS-IS and OSPF WGs will be > merged together afterwards. If you have thoughts on key aspects for the > charter, please do share them. Such a charter would be likely around > link-state IGPs - and will need a new name. 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from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EFC5132054; Wed, 26 Jul 2017 08:22:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: Cc: ospf@ietf.org, ipr-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.57.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150108252405.23085.3191904583976107948@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 08:22:04 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [OSPF] IPR Disclosure Telefonaktiebolaget LM Ericsson (publ)'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-msd X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 15:22:04 -0000 Dear Jeff Tantsura, Uma Chunduri, Sam Aldrin, Peter Psenak: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled 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The title of the IPR disclosure is "Telefonaktiebolaget LM Ericsson (publ)'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-msd" Thank you IETF Secretariat From nobody Thu Jul 27 02:56:06 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietf.org Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAB612441E; Thu, 27 Jul 2017 02:55:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ospf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.57.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150114935692.11453.7498687627168202509@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 02:55:56 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-08.txt X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:55:57 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP WG of the IETF. Title : OSPF Link Overload Authors : Shraddha Hegde Pushpasis Sarkar Hannes Gredler Mohan Nanduri Luay Jalil Filename : draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-08.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2017-07-17 Abstract: When a link is being prepared to be taken out of service, the traffic needs to be diverted from both ends of the link. Increasing the metric to the highest metric on one side of the link is not sufficient to divert the traffic flowing in the other direction. It is useful for routers in an OSPFv2 or OSPFv3 routing domain to be able to advertise a link being in an overload state to indicate impending maintenance activity on the link. This information can be used by the network devices to re-route the traffic effectively. This document describes the protocol extensions to disseminate link- overload information in OSPFv2 and OSPFv3. 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X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 09:04:33 -0000 Hi Shraddha, Sorry for joining the discussion on -08. >From your ID: " It is useful to be able to advertise the impending maintenance activity on the link and to have LSP re-routing policies at the ingress to route the LSPs away from the link." >From RFC 5817: "a Service Provider may desire to gracefully (temporarily or indefinitely) remove a TE link, a group of TE links, or an entire node for administrative reasons such as link maintenance, software/hardware upgrade at a node, or significant TE configuration changes." There is a clear overlap. I am aware that RFC 5817 is informational, but is there a technical reason why the work in progress starts from scratch instead of building from section 4.1 in the former? Thanks, Julien (starting to feel as an old IETFer) Jul. 27, 2017 - shraddha@juniper.net: > Acee/OSPF WG, > > I just realized my post on updated draft for -08 version posted on 17-07 was stuck at confirmation stage. > > I think it's useful to have normative language to ensure interoperability. I have updated the "elements of procedure" > Section accordingly. Please review the -08 version. > > Thanks > Shraddha > > -----Original Message----- > From: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:acee@cisco.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:59 AM > > Hi Shraddha, > > Great - I think we are all in sync. > > What are your thoughts on using “MUST” for the setting the link metrics in sections 5.1, 5.2, 5.3 and 5.5? I checked RFC 6987 (and RFC 3137) and they don't use normative language since setting the link-metrics to 0xffff is the very definition of OSPF stub router behavior. > > Also, one more reference to RFC 4203. > > *** 438,445 **** > field in the Extended Link TLV carries the Local interface-id instead > of the IP address. The Local/Remote Interface ID sub-TLV MUST be > originated when there are multiple parallel unnumbered interfaces > ! between two nodes. Procedures to obtain interface-id of the remote > ! side are defined in [RFC4203]. > > > > --- 438,445 ---- > field in the Extended Link TLV carries the Local interface-id instead > of the IP address. The Local/Remote Interface ID sub-TLV MUST be > originated when there are multiple parallel unnumbered interfaces > ! between two nodes. One of the mechanisms to obtain remote > ! interface-id is described in [RFC4203]. > > > > Thanks, > Acee > > > On 7/10/17, 12:52 AM, "Shraddha Hegde" wrote: > >> All, >> >> Link-local flooding was added as an optimization for use-cases that do >> not need area level flooding on request from Acee. >> I agree flooding area level in all cases is a reasonable way forward as >> the overhead isn't much. >> >> If anyone has objections to removing Link-local scope advertisement, do >> let me know. >> >> Rgds >> Shraddha >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:acee@cisco.com] >> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 2:55 PM >> >> Hi Peter, Shradha, >> >> On 7/6/17, 3:30 AM, "OSPF on behalf of Peter Psenak (ppsenak)" >> wrote: >> >>> On 06/07/17 05:50 , Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) wrote: >>>> Hi Shraddha, >>>> >>>> Thanks for taking care of some of the comments shared previously. >>>> Please find below some more that were probably missed or not taken >>>> care of. >>>> >>>> 1) I see that the use of link-local scope RI LSA has still been >>>> retained in this version and not sure why. RI LSA is for node >>>> attributes and it's use for signalling of link is not right IMO. Why >>>> not use the link-local scope Extended Link LSA instead? >>> >>> an alternative would be to always flood area scope Extended Link LSA. >>> It should not harm anything and could be used by other routers in area >>> as a "heads-up" that remote link is becoming overloaded. >> >> I think this would be a good way forward as the OSPF Extended Attribute >> LSA will most likely be advertised for SR in OSPF Service Provider >> domains anyway. So, just advertising the area-scope for all use cases >> would seem to be the simplify this approach and get us past this >> discussion. In fact, the -00 version of the draft had area-scope alone >> and I, regretfully, had suggested the OSPF RI as possible way to get >> support either scope. >> >> Thanks, >> Acee >> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> 2) Sec 5.1, why is advertising of MAX-METRIC for the link to be >>>> overloaded a SHOULD and not a MUST? Isn't this mandatory to ensure >>>> backward compatibility? What if the router on which overload is >>>> signalled does not do MAX-METRIC but the implementation on the remote >>>> side end up doing MAX-METRIC. Would it not result in asymmetric >>>> metric in a un-intended manner? Please consider changing all SHOULD >>>> here to MUST to ensure backward compatibility. >>>> >>>> 3) Sec 5.4, can you please make similar change in language related >>>> to the RFC4203 reference as you've done in other parts in this version? >>>> >>>> Also I don't agree with the rationale you've given for not using LLS >>>> for the link-local signalling. Even if the hello processing were >>>> delegated to the LC, there are already a lot of protocol events which >>>> can happen via hello packets (which includes LLS) that require >>>> signalling update to the control plane OSPF main process. An >>>> implementation aspect such as this should hardly be a good reason to >>>> not use LLS for link-local signalling such as overload. >>> >>> +1 on the above. >>> >>> thanks, >>> Peter >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ketan >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Shraddha >>>> Hegde >>>> Sent: 03 July 2017 11:11 >>>> To: internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org >>>> Cc: ospf@ietf.org >>>> Subject: Re: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt >>>> >>>> OSPF WG, >>>> >>>> New version of the ospf-link-overload draft is posted. >>>> Editorial comments received so far have been addressed in this version. >>>> >>>> There was one comments to move the link-overload sub-TLV to LLS in >>>> hello messages. >>>> Many implementations delegate the Hello processing to >>>> linecards/different deamons Once adjacency is established. Hello >>>> messages are not sent to control plane post adjacency establishment. >>>> The link-overload information typically needs to be processed after >>>> adjacency establishment, it introduces unnecessary complexity in >>>> hello processing. >>>> We had a discussion among authors on this and feel advertising >>>> link-overload sub-TLV in the LSAs is the most appropriate mechanism. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rgds >>>> Shraddha >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >>>> internet-drafts@ietf.org >>>> Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 11:01 AM >>>> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >>>> Cc: ospf@ietf.org >>>> Subject: [OSPF] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt >>>> >>>> >>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>>> directories. >>>> This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the >>>> IETF. >>>> >>>> Title : OSPF Link Overload >>>> Authors : Shraddha Hegde >>>> Pushpasis Sarkar >>>> Hannes Gredler >>>> Mohan Nanduri >>>> Luay Jalil >>>> Filename : draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07.txt >>>> Pages : 14 >>>> Date : 2017-07-02 >>>> >>>> Abstract: >>>> When a link is being prepared to be taken out of service, the >>>> traffic >>>> needs to be diverted from both ends of the link. Increasing the >>>> metric to the highest metric on one side of the link is not >>>> sufficient to divert the traffic flowing in the other direction. >>>> >>>> It is useful for routers in an OSPFv2 or OSPFv3 routing domain >>>> to be >>>> able to advertise a link being in an overload state to indicate >>>> impending maintenance activity on the link. This information >>>> can be >>>> used by the network devices to re-route the traffic effectively. >>>> >>>> This document describes the protocol extensions to disseminate >>>> link- >>>> overload information in OSPFv2 and OSPFv3. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload/ >>>> >>>> There are also htmlized versions available at: >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07 >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload- >>>> 0 >>>> 7 >>>> >>>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-07 >>>> >>>> >>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at >>>> tools.ietf.org. >>>> >>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>>> 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X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalAttributedTenantConnectingIp: TenantId=5d471751-9675-428d-917b-70f44f9630b0; Ip=[135.245.241.12]; Helo=[fr711usmtp1-o.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DB5PR07MB1046 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OSPF] Implementation Survey for OSPFv3 Extended LSAs X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 12:52:02 -0000 Hi Acee,

I received questions w.r.t. the difference between 3 and 5, I guess you meant:
- 3 and 4 are about AS <> area wide
- 5 and 6 are about full<>sparse mode
See answers inline.
Dirk

Op 28/07/2017 om 21:20 schreef Acee Lindem (acee):
Hi Dirk, Veeru, 

Please respond to the implementation survey questions below. 

  1. Does your implementation support for all 9 OSPFv3 Extended LSAs?
DG> Yes

  2. Does your implementation support for N-Bit Prefix Option?
DG> Yes
  3. Does your implementation support OSPFv3 Extended LSAs across the entire routing domain?
DG> Yes
  4. Does your implementation support per-area deployment of OSPF Extended LSAs (AS-External LSAs are legacy)? 

DG> OSPFv3 in legacy mode can enable extended LSA per area, but OSPFv3 in extended mode, cannot support legacy per area.

  5. Does your implementation support full deployment of OSPFv3 Extended LSAs?
DG> Yes
  6. Does your implementation support sparse mode deployment of OSPFv3 Extended LSAs? 
DG> Yes, by default
  7. Does your implementation support any applications that make use of OSPFv3 Extended LSAs (e.g., Segment Routing)? 
DG> Not yet, segment routing is in the pipe.
  8. Have you done any interoperability testing with other implementations?
DG> No, only some limited tests were done with Spirtent/Ixia

Thanks,
Acee 

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